July 10, 2018

Trump Pardons Ranchers Whose Unjust Imprisonment Led to Bundy Standoff
— Open Blogger

They're not actually the Bundys. They're the ranchers whose fire inadvertently sparked a fire on federal lands, and who were then, bizarrely, prosecuted as terrorists.

The Oregon ranchers whose conviction for arson became the catalyst for 40 days of protests at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in 2016 were pardoned by Donald Trump today.

Dwight Hammond, 76, and his son Steven Hammond, 49 were convicted in 2012 of setting a fire on their own property that then spread to federal land. The Hammonds disavowed the protesters at the wildlife refuge where Robert LaVoy Finicum, one of the occupiers, was slain by federal authorities.

From The Hill:

Both men are currently in prison on five-year sentences, thanks in part to a 1996 antiterrorism law that imposed a mandatory minimum sentence on certain crimes on federal land. The length of their prison terms, in part, fueled outrage at their convictions.

Federal Judge Michael Robert Hogan originally gave the Hammonds reduced sentences in 2012, arguing that the mandatory minimums were unjust. But the Obama administration appealed, and federal Judge Ann Aiken in 2015 imposed the full five-year sentences.

"This was unjust," Sanders said in her statement. Dwight Hammond has served about three years of his sentence and Steven Hammond has served about four of his. Trump's pardon will set them free.

Cue the conspiracy theories from the left and the NeverTrumpers.

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1 B..B..But they are TERRORISTS!!!

Posted by: johnd01 at July 10, 2018 12:49 PM (ukNFU)

2 Oh, and a lucky first.

Posted by: johnd01 at July 10, 2018 12:49 PM (ukNFU)

3 Hmmmm, I know nothing about this topic.  Should I comment?  Oh, hell's yeah.  Guilty!  String em' up.

Posted by: pep at July 10, 2018 12:50 PM (T6t7i)

4 This is righteous.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2018 12:50 PM (iiixZ)

5 We've already been told otherwise today. Der law isht der LAW!!! or something.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 12:50 PM (7LY+6)

6 Good. The man never ceases to amaze me.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 10, 2018 12:50 PM (yQpMk)

7 3 and 4 years was more than enough .

Posted by: steevy at July 10, 2018 12:51 PM (LiyEm)

8 I wanna put on my my my my my Boogie Shoes!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 10, 2018 12:51 PM (WaRju)

9 It burns burns burns

Posted by: wooga at July 10, 2018 12:51 PM (3s5Dr)

10 Fixing federal fuckups should be the job of any president. Unfortunately, our last president WAS the federal fuckup. Luckily, sanity is beginning to prevail.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 12:51 PM (7UW64)

11 PDT appears to be trying to rope in an punish an out of control bureaucracy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2018 12:51 PM (Ydx5u)

12 Barry sure hated ranchers. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 12:51 PM (ptqGC)

13 How much does the average pyro get when he sets 1/2 of Cali on fire? A week or two?

Posted by: johnd01 at July 10, 2018 12:51 PM (ukNFU)

14 It was Zero's DoJ so....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (iiixZ)

15 And then Obobo put them back in federal prison in 2016

Posted by: Sphynx at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (rXie1)

16 Fixing federal fuckups should be the job of any president. Unfortunately, our last president WAS the federal fuckup. Well put

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (Ydx5u)

17 This was the right thing to do and gives me the slimmest, slightest hope that maybe the Trump administration will begin to reverse the 150 year old Federal policy of treating the western USA like a fiefdom of Washington DC.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (39g3+)

18 How much does the average pyro get when he sets 1/2 of Cali on fire? A week or two?" Si.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (7LY+6)

19 Does a judge have any control over what a prosecutor can try to make the crime? I mean, how does accidentally setting fire to some Federal land become terrorism?

Posted by: Lefty's Everywhere at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (J70i0)

20 9 It burns burns burns
They have antibiotics for that.

Posted by: pep at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (T6t7i)

21 Oh no,Billy Dee Williams to return as Lando Calrissian for Episode 9.Just stop please.

Posted by: steevy at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (LiyEm)

22 Trump has made good use of the pardon power. Its one of the most awesome powers of the executive, and he has put it to use better than anyone.

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (sX1BW)

23 12 Barry sure hated ranchers. Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 05:51 PM (ptqGC) Was that before or after Brokeback Mountain? I'd have thought he would have had a soft spot for them after that lovely little romance. **spits**

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (7UW64)

24 Where's Hill Bawkins to tell us 'so much for law and order'?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (fA1SL)

25 Has George Will commented on their dreadful dungarees? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 12:52 PM (ptqGC)

26 Interesting move, since this was a fairly obscure case not followed by many people, except for ranchers in the mountain west. I see it was a move to widen Trump's appeal in Montana and help take Tester out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2018 12:53 PM (k1TUh)

27 Does a judge have any control over what a prosecutor can try to make the crime? I mean, how does accidentally setting fire to some Federal land become terrorism? ------------ Because we long moved from the common law to civil law.

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 12:53 PM (sX1BW)

28 The average pyro in CA is an illegal, so they get free health care, room, board, SNAP.....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2018 12:53 PM (iiixZ)

29 How much does the average pyro get when he sets 1/2 of Cali on fire? A week or two? Posted by: johnd01 at July 10, 2018 05:51 PM (ukNFU) Can't charge him. Might separate him from his family.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 10, 2018 12:53 PM (J70i0)

30 Billy Dee Williams to return as Lando Calrissian

Good.  The malt liquor people need a good spokesman again.

Posted by: pep at July 10, 2018 12:53 PM (T6t7i)

31 5-years because a controlled fire spread slightly onto federal land.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at July 10, 2018 12:54 PM (56GKt)

32 I see it was a move to widen Trump's appeal in Montana and help take Tester out. -------- Interesting angle.

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 12:54 PM (sX1BW)

33 17 This was the right thing to do and gives me the slimmest, slightest hope that maybe the Trump administration will begin to reverse the 150 year old Federal policy of treating the western USA like a fiefdom of Washington DC. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 05:52 PM (39g3+) Get back to me when the feds start to cede the 70%+ of Alaska back to the state. Apparently we remain a Federal Park.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 12:54 PM (7UW64)

34 Quick, name all the songs about Shoes! ----- Fuck Me Pumps, by Amy Winehouse.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2018 12:54 PM (AzW6q)

35 Dee Williams in Lando Calrissian - Space Swinger

Posted by: johnd01 at July 10, 2018 12:54 PM (ukNFU)

36 B..B..But they are TERRORISTS!!!



Posted by: johnd01 at July 10, 2018 05:49 PM

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So am I because I am an NRA member. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 10, 2018 12:55 PM (+Dllb)

37 Barack Mugabe was just doing what ol' race baiting, whitey hating, promise errthang phree to the moochers by the looters relating leftist scum do when they are in power. Let me be clear.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 10, 2018 12:55 PM (EoRCO)

38 The horde has the attention span of a cat on catnip with a drunken owner with a laser pointer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 12:55 PM (ptqGC)

39 Let me be clear....... Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 10, 2018 05:55 PM (EoRCO) Dude was so clear you could see in one ear and out the other.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 12:55 PM (7UW64)

40 Anyone think if Antifa or Black Lives Matter accidentally started a fire on public land Obama's DOJ would go to the mat to make sure they served 5 years for terrorism?

Posted by: Maritime at July 10, 2018 12:55 PM (lKmt3)

41 If Trump could see his way clear to throwing the BLM in the federal klink for the remainder of his term that would also please more than a few people.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at July 10, 2018 12:56 PM (LISuA)

42 >>>PDT appears to be trying to rope in an punish an out of control bureaucracy He's coming at the Deep State with an unexpected flanking maneuver.

Posted by: Max Power [/i] [/b] at July 10, 2018 12:56 PM (q177U)

43 Because we long moved from the common law to civil law. Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 05:53 PM (sX1BW) Yeah, but let's say the prosecutor comes in and states he's charging someone under X and there is no way it applies. Does a judge have the ability to simply say "No, you can't apply that charge."

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 10, 2018 12:56 PM (J70i0)

44 Billy Dee Williams to return as Lando Calrissian for Episode 9 The only character with charisma in the entire movie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 12:56 PM (39g3+)

45 38 The horde has the attention span of a cat on catnip with a drunken owner with a laser pointer. Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 05:55 PM (ptqGC) I assume this is about the F*** Me Pumps. We called them Sailor Shoes, as in "Hey Sailor!" And yes, we do tend to wander far afield.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 12:56 PM (7UW64)

46 How come when you occupy a wildlife refuge you're worse than Hitler but when you occupy a statehouse or immigration center you're the second coming of Mother Theresa?

Posted by: 29Victor at July 10, 2018 12:56 PM (HT1Jh)

47 Of course they were prosecuted as terrorists! Remember The Great obama Shift? obama changed the scope of all the federal agencies to do one thing: Persecute White Americans, Especially Military Veterans and "militias," a.k.a. bitter clingers who own more than one gun, and seek out Hate Crimes. And that's why the fbi is LOADED with left wing shits today.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 10, 2018 12:56 PM (WaRju)

48 So am I because I am an NRA member.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 10, 2018 05:55 PM (+Dllb)

  

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Then we all are, probably.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at July 10, 2018 12:57 PM (LISuA)

49 Get back to me when the feds start to cede the 70%+ of Alaska back to the state. Apparently we remain a Federal Park. Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 05:54 PM (7UW64) ... Am I right that Bill Clinton is the one who vastly increased the amount of Federal lands in the west?

Posted by: TexasDan[/i] at July 10, 2018 12:57 PM (yL25O)

50 Does a judge have the ability to simply say "No, you can't apply that charge." __________ Yes, but something like that could be appealed.

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 12:57 PM (sX1BW)

51 Paul Simon - Diamonds On The Soles Of Her Shoes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_T3XvzPaM from last thread.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 10, 2018 12:57 PM (fceHP)

52 I paid Trump to pardon them - I like to create trouble in America!

Posted by: Russian Bot at July 10, 2018 12:58 PM (yEAdf)

53 The horde has the attention span of a cat on catnip with a drunken owner with a laser pointer. Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 05:55 PM (ptqGC) Aw, that's very nice of you to say so. You're not so bad yourself.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 10, 2018 12:58 PM (y87Qq)

54 46 How come when you occupy a wildlife refuge you're worse than Hitler but when you occupy a statehouse or immigration center you're the second coming of Mother Theresa? Posted by: 29Victor at July 10, 2018 05:56 PM (HT1Jh) For precisely the same reason as abortion should remain safe, legal and rare but I can get one on your dime right up to the day before delivery or YOU ARE OPPRESSING ME. That's why.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 12:58 PM (7UW64)

55 you're the second coming " Previous thread was... stormy.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 12:58 PM (7LY+6)

56 This isn't just justice. This is massive trolling.

Posted by: Caliban at July 10, 2018 12:58 PM (QE8X6)

57 One should watch the documentary "American Standoff" to learn the particulars of this case. What the BLM did to prosecute these ranchers was insane - all in an effort to steal their water rights. Acting in bad faith repeatedly, and using the unlimited resources of the government to destroy those that opposed them via harassment and abuse prosecution via the legal system.

Posted by: BigSam at July 10, 2018 12:58 PM (5zAjT)

58 lando calrissian was retconned to be "Pansexual" by Disney Star Wars and it was implied that he was fucking one of his robot crew members.

Posted by: Max Power [/i] [/b] at July 10, 2018 12:59 PM (q177U)

59 American ranchers. The only kind of terrorist that Obama hated.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 12:59 PM (lY6OQ)

60 1984, working as a stock clerk at a shoe store. Porn star comes in looking for "fuck me pumps" and every salesman creamed himself. Sad. She left "empty handed."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2018 12:59 PM (iiixZ)

61 IIANM the case against the Bundys has already been thrown out of court due to gross misconduct by the prosecution.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 10, 2018 12:59 PM (mpXpK)

62 there goes our white, Christian, possibly-militia-tied data point! curses!

Posted by: Southern Poverty Law Center at July 10, 2018 12:59 PM (RKQ/v)

63 We're on a list. Some of us are on numerous lists.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 10, 2018 12:59 PM (89T5c)

64 Obama who? Can't place the guy.

Posted by: Octopussy at July 10, 2018 01:00 PM (tMt88)

65 4 J Christian Adamswrote a book I believe about how every Obama admin hire for DOJ was a radical left winger.Every single one.

Posted by: steevy at July 10, 2018 01:00 PM (LiyEm)

66 I am not a big fan of the BLM. They have no business having this much control over lands that should belong to the state or private ownership.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 01:00 PM (a0IVu)

67 First Dinesh D'Souza and now these guys. Federal apologies to Tea Party groups from the DOJ. I'm gonna go spend some time alone with a cat-a-nine-tails as penance for ever doubting the Golden Scalp Weasel during the primaries. Wrongs righted.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 10, 2018 01:00 PM (+NMPB)

68 Am I right that Bill Clinton is the one who vastly increased the amount of Federal lands in the west? Posted by: TexasDan at July 10, 2018 05:57 PM (yL25O) Carter started it, with the Native Land Claims Act. Clinton doubled the size of Denali National Park and locked up ANWR, among other places. Neither one of them ever set foot anywhere near the lands they locked up or the people whose livelihoods were trashed by these things.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 01:00 PM (7UW64)

69 obama's very first order to skunk-hair-doo napolitano was focus on.... US Military vets returning home from serving in Iraq and Afghanistan! Remember that? We were all like WTFF?? And the Republicans just sat on their thumbs as usual.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 10, 2018 01:00 PM (WaRju)

70 and every salesman creamed himself. Sad. She left "empty handed." Wellllll.....

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 01:00 PM (7LY+6)

71 Boots - Nancy Sinatra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:01 PM (AkocS)

Posted by: Bert G at July 10, 2018 01:01 PM (yzxic)

73 I was wondering when I heard this on the way home if President Trump isn't just trolling the DOJ

Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2018 01:01 PM (pHfeF)

74 Amazing how much damage Obama caused with his phone and pen. Trump won't need the phone, only the pen to straighten out a lot of the mess.

Posted by: Decaf at July 10, 2018 01:01 PM (Mymqt)

75 J Christian Adamswrote a book I believe about how every Obama admin hire for DOJ was a radical left winger.Every single one. -------------- This is why you should always clean house at the DOJ when newly elected. Hell I'd do it in every agency, but especially the DOJ.

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 01:01 PM (sX1BW)

76 >> Boots - Nancy Sinatra Would you call that a "spherical perfomance"?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 10, 2018 01:01 PM (8O3HH)

77 jury acquitted all charges except 2 counts of arson. Story at reason.com

Posted by: kallisto at July 10, 2018 01:01 PM (VPncT)

78 Obama is being relegated to the dustbin of history, where he rightfully belongs.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 01:01 PM (a0IVu)

79 Who was that troll we had earlier - Twatkins? Wimpkins? Surprised he isn't here in this thread.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 10, 2018 01:01 PM (6FqZa)

80 American ranchers. The only kind of terrorist that Obama hated.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 05:59 PM (lY6OQ)



Well, he hated those of us in the Tea Party, too.  At one of our rallies, the chair of our group had ordered name badges for us.  Some guy came up to each of us and took our pictures.  I asked him who he was and who he was with, and he disappeared into the crowd.



And to this day, even with TSA Easy Pass or whatever, I ALWAYS get the full pat-down, feel-up, hands swabbed for explosives, the whole deal. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 01:02 PM (ptqGC)

81 American ranchers. The only kind of terrorist that Obama hated.  
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Really?

Posted by: Bitter Clingers, LEO's, Vets, flyover residents and Tea Party activists at July 10, 2018 01:02 PM (LISuA)

82 This is an outstanding move by PDT.    The entire incident was a farce of government overreach from the beginning. 


And for once, the good guys finally won.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 10, 2018 01:02 PM (UsCnO)

83 Gotta get on a conference call so I'm posting this early. Another interesting court decision today. https://tinyurl.com/yatlpg3b

Posted by: JackStraw at July 10, 2018 01:02 PM (/tuJf)

84 Am I right that Bill Clinton is the one who vastly increased the amount of Federal lands in the west? Its been kind of a trend, every Democrat President seizes more land in the west. Its a game or something "who can steal the most." I've posted this before but here's the rundown of how much land the federal government owns in western states: Alaska 62% Arizona 39% California 46% Colorado 36% Idaho 62% Montana 29% New Mexico 35% Nevada 85% Oregon 53% Washington 29% Wyoming 49% Overall the federal government owns thirty percent of the land in the United States, almost 650 million acres. That's bullcrap. Some for military bases, okay. But they own almost 90% of Nevada for crying out loud.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:02 PM (39g3+)

85 78 Obama is being relegated to the dustbin of history, where he rightfully belongs. Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 06:01 PM (a0IVu) More like the dumpster fire, but okay.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 01:02 PM (7UW64)

86 79 Who was that troll we had earlier - Twatkins? Wimpkins?

Surprised he isn't here in this thread.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 10, 2018 06:01 PM (6FqZa)

He will be here to bleat about how these two ranchers were nothing but filthy poachers.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 01:02 PM (a0IVu)

87 Obama BTFO again

Posted by: x at July 10, 2018 01:02 PM (nFwvY)

88 Off topic, but.... It would be really cool if the Thai SEALS made all the rescued kids "honorary SEALS." Cuz' they totally passed the test.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (iiixZ)

89 And the Republicans just sat on their thumbs as usual." Ahem.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (7LY+6)

90 Am I right that Bill Clinton is the one who vastly increased the amount of Federal lands in the west?" Clinton - Grand Staircase Escalante, 1.7 million acre land grab in Utah. Obama - Bears Ears, 1.3 million acres, but Ryan Zinke at Interior is working to roll most of that back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (k1TUh)

91 From what I understand, there are/were some mining interests in that area.  Uranium mining interests.

Posted by: Bert G at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (yzxic)

92 Aside, I'm sick of hearing the phrase "abortion rights." They found a right to privacy, not a "right" to abortion, but decided that abortion fell under the right to privacy. So, in theory, if you could murder someone while only you and your doctor knew, same thing.

Posted by: dagny at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (nRWPy)

93 Fuck. Will no one defend my legacy?

Posted by: Brokeback Barry at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (Mh0FI)

94 F this cat Gif, for whomever was talking about it on the end of the last thread

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-fuck-this-Nrl65xdV70qze

Posted by: redc1c4 [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (nOoxP)

95 Compare this to Barky trying to corridor off the WW2 Memorial and Mt. Rushmore. Man, seriously, f*ck those guys on the left.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (+NMPB)

96 Boots and Boys, by Ke$ha

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (AzW6q)

97 MARYJANEs : Rick James https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (AkocS)

98 Leftists are clever at twisting and abusing laws into doing the exact opposite of what was intended, but they couldn't do it without the collusion of judges. Is pardon enough to combat it? Maybe in addition to pen and phone, lampposts and rope should be added to the equipment list.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 10, 2018 01:03 PM (/qEW2)

99 What does Kamala's toe think about this.

Posted by: PhilDirt at July 10, 2018 01:04 PM (fD9eo)

100 "How much does the average pyro get when he sets 1/2 of Cali on fire? A week or two?" Si. Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 05:52 PM (7LY+6)" ---------- If he's an illegal - nothing, particularly if he's got kids.

Posted by: Decaf at July 10, 2018 01:04 PM (Mymqt)

101

 

 The horde has the attention span of a cat on catnip with a drunken owner with a laser pointer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 05:55 PM (ptqGC)

 

 

A  druken owner blinding himself with a laser pointer seems like it would amuse a cat for a good amount of time

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 10, 2018 01:04 PM (10vO4)

102 Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this case related to the Uranium One fiasco? Something about their ranch property having uranium and other mineral deposits or something?

Posted by: Smash'em at July 10, 2018 01:04 PM (+49eo)

103 Contrast this case with the anti-Trump rioters in DC.  They tried to burn down DC and it was on purpose.  All charges against them were dropped.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 10, 2018 01:04 PM (mpXpK)

104 BAD PENNY (LOAFERS) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSivVYwKwZc

Posted by: BIG BLACK at July 10, 2018 01:05 PM (AkocS)

105 The left not talking much about this because 'omg, kavanaugh on the supreme court will cause women to die' outrage

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 01:05 PM (a0IVu)

106 Treehouse has extensive prior coverage of this case. Abolish BLM.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at July 10, 2018 01:05 PM (0ogQG)

107 Interesting move, since this was a fairly obscure case not followed by many people, except for ranchers in the mountain west. I see it was a move to widen Trump's appeal in Montana and help take Tester out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2018 05:53 PM (k1TUh)
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primarily a chance to right an obvious wrong.

if it help politically, that's nice, but, since our GE is *not* a politician, i don't think he looks at things that way, at least not as a primary focus.

Posted by: redc1c4 [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 10, 2018 01:05 PM (nOoxP)

108 Overall the federal government owns thirty percent of the land in the United States, almost 650 million acres. That's bullcrap. Some for military bases, okay. But they own almost 90% of Nevada for crying out loud. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:02 PM (39g3+) +++++ I was originally from Nevada. I just assumed that the feds owning most of the land was normal. We didn't like it, but accepted it. As I've gotten older, and moved to another sate, I see the feds are terrible at land management compared to the privately held lands.

Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 10, 2018 01:05 PM (2sCft)

109 Obama is being relegated to the dustbin of history, where he rightfully belongs. Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 06:01 PM (a0IV But unfortunately he's fermenting unrest through OFA and trying to work for a coup thrrough the Deep State

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 10, 2018 01:05 PM (AllCR)

110 I can live with federal parks, although its difficult to defend constitutionally. But I want the law that allows the president to unilaterally just seize lands for federal monuments ENDED NOW.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:05 PM (39g3+)

111 They tried to burn down DC and it was on purpose. ---------- Who stopped them?

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 01:05 PM (sX1BW)

112 New Homesteading Act when?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 10, 2018 01:06 PM (fA1SL)

113 Why are women dying now? From frustration?

Posted by: dagny at July 10, 2018 01:06 PM (nRWPy)

114 Some of the Nevada and NM sites the Feds can keep - the ones with the green glass and the glowing tumbleweed.

Posted by: mrp at July 10, 2018 01:06 PM (Pqytn)

115 113 Why are women dying now? From frustration?

Posted by: dagny at July 10, 2018 06:06 PM (nRWPy)

Because Kavanaugh something, something, reasons.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 01:06 PM (a0IVu)

116 Read the case if you haven't already.

It's one thing to write comments stating that Obama stacked the federal government with loyalist idiots and liberal die-hard incompetents. 
Reading about the consequences of his decade of treachery , how he broke up a family and how two innocent American men went to prison on the whim of that jug-eared faggot and his commie fluffers, will make you sick to your stomach. 
"Separating families at the border" ??

Fuck 'em.

Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 10, 2018 01:07 PM (/TNyL)

117 No word on whether the ILLEGAL ALIEN who recently set a huge fire in Colorado will be charged just for arson or will be imprisoned as a TERR'RIST . . .

Posted by: Sharkman at July 10, 2018 01:07 PM (BfOXk)

118 I was originally from Nevada. I just assumed that the feds owning most of the land was normal. We didn't like it, but accepted it. To be fair, most of Nevada is pretty much useless lunar landscape only fit for geologists to reluctantly run through as fast as possible

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:07 PM (39g3+)

119 Obama is being relegated to the dustbin of history, where he rightfully belongs. The flies knew it all along but we didn't listen to them

Posted by: t-bird at July 10, 2018 01:07 PM (Mh0FI)

120 113 Why are women dying now? From frustration? Posted by: dagny at July 10, 2018 06:06 PM (nRWPy) Too much winning.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 01:07 PM (7UW64)

121 >>Obama is being relegated to the dustbin of history, where he rightfully belongs. I told you all that the Barckhenatening was coming.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:07 PM (AkocS)

122 thank you Mr. President

Posted by: concrete girl at July 10, 2018 01:08 PM (BVthB)

123 Why are women dying now? From frustration?

The Paolo, he can only visit so many.

Posted by: Paolo at July 10, 2018 01:08 PM (WmvhY)

124 Obama is being relegated to the dustbin of history, where he rightfully belongs.
The flies knew it all along but we didn't listen to them

Posted by: t-bird at July 10, 2018 06:07 PM (Mh0FI)



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The rat running in front of the podium in the Rose Garden was a tell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 01:08 PM (ptqGC)

125 The horde has the attention span of a cat on catnip with a drunken owner with a laser pointer.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 05:55 PM (ptqGC)
   
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I think she's trying to distract us,  with all this talk of boobehs.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at July 10, 2018 01:08 PM (LISuA)

126 >> Why are women dying now? Spherical performances? Or is it they are not sufficiently spherical...

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 10, 2018 01:08 PM (8O3HH)

127 "Reproductive freedom" = skanking out then killing your kid because inconvenient

Posted by: dagny at July 10, 2018 01:09 PM (nRWPy)

128 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:02 PM (39g3+) I've always wondered why the States don't use eminent Domain to seize control of the Federal Land inside the State. Under Kelo, it seems like ANY positive economic impact said land would have, can be used to trigger Eminent Domain.

Posted by: Don Q at July 10, 2018 01:09 PM (NgKpN)

129 No word on whether the ILLEGAL ALIEN who recently set a huge fire in Colorado will be charged just for arson or will be imprisoned as a TERR'RIST . . . Posted by: Sharkman at July 10, 2018 06:07 PM (BfOXk) ----- As we've learned, it just depends on his politics... he's from Sweden, so he won't get the automatic acquittal for being Mexican. Have to figure out who he's Antifa or not, before we just let him go for setting fires.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2018 01:09 PM (AzW6q)

130

 

To be fair, most of Nevada is pretty much useless lunar landscape only fit for geologists to reluctantly run through as fast as possible

 

 

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:07 PM (39g3+)

 

 

Nevada gold mines are one of the largest sources of gold in the world

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 10, 2018 01:09 PM (10vO4)

131 but they couldn't do it without the collusion of judges. Is pardon enough to combat it? Well since congress is not doing its job to impeach out of control and activist judges, pretty much all we can do is hope enough get replaced by Trump (who seems to be doing an amazing job so far with them) that it turns things around. And the last SCOTUS decision did include some dire comments by Thomas about courts overstepping their role. So maybe something might happen there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:09 PM (39g3+)

132 81 American ranchers. The only kind of terrorist that Obama hated.
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Really?
 Actually, Barky hates WHITE ranchers.    Remember he gave black farmers HUGE payoffs of FedGov money.     The Pigford settlement, I believe was one of them.    

The format pixies are screwing up the link.   It was in 2010.  

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 10, 2018 01:09 PM (UsCnO)

133 129. Icebacks. I keep trying to tell you people.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 10, 2018 01:10 PM (fA1SL)

134 Why are women dying now? From frustration? Posted by: dagny at July 10, 2018 06:06 PM (nRWPy) ----- If only you knew... *sigh*

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg's Wife at July 10, 2018 01:10 PM (AzW6q)

135 111 They tried to burn down DC and it was on purpose.

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Who stopped them?

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 06:05 PM (sX1BW)


The cops.  this NBC story sugar coats it but gives an overall synopsis.


http://tinyurl.com/yb7orusk



Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 10, 2018 01:10 PM (mpXpK)

136 most of Nevada is pretty much useless lunar landscape only fit for geologists to reluctantly run through as fast as possible" Well, I've actually driven from Carson City, thru Ely, and on.... yeah, you nailed it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 01:10 PM (7LY+6)

137 Barckhenatening BARACKHENATENING!!!! Oh yeah.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 10, 2018 01:10 PM (7UW64)

138 F this cat Gif, for whomever was talking about it on the end of the last thread

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-fuck-this-Nrl65xdV70qze

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 10, 2018 06:03 PM (nOoxP)


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That was me, commenting about Kavanaugh's dissents written for the DC Circuit Court of Appeals.  He wrote a lot of them and and that reminded me of the gif.  Hogmartin also posted a link.  Thanks to both of you.

Posted by: mrp at July 10, 2018 01:10 PM (Pqytn)

139 The Feds have a history with fucking with ranchers and other folks out west, don't they?

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:11 PM (8SG/h)

140 Knockin' Boots, by Candyman

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2018 01:11 PM (AzW6q)

141 I've always wondered why the States don't use eminent Domain to seize control of the Federal Land inside the State. It would be an interesting court case. Things were getting pretty dire; sheriffs were starting to tear down barriers and unlock blocked off roads, because technically they hold more power in a county than the feds. It was heading to an interesting collision, but hopefully, at least for a time, this can be dialed back. What was going on under the radar with the EPA and BLM and other agencies out west was truly godawful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:11 PM (39g3+)

142 >>Oh yeah You forgot to bust through the wall!

Posted by: Kool-Aid Man at July 10, 2018 01:12 PM (AkocS)

143 The Feds have a history with fucking with ranchers and other folks out west, don't they? ---------- The Crown has a history with fucking with people who work the land that the Crown believes is the Crown's.

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 01:12 PM (sX1BW)

144 136 most of Nevada is pretty much useless lunar landscape only fit for geologists to reluctantly run through as fast as possible" Well, I've actually driven from Carson City, thru Ely, and on.... yeah, you nailed it. Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 06:10 PM (7LY+6) Highway 50. The loneliest highway in America?

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:12 PM (8SG/h)

145 Many people don't realize how close we came to a shooting war during the Bundy standoff. One itchy trigger finger on either side and all hell would have broken loose. I don't think you could put that genie back in the bottle.

Posted by: rickl at July 10, 2018 01:12 PM (sdi6R)

146 143. Pirateswithoutborders.com

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 10, 2018 01:13 PM (fA1SL)

147 OT Costco starting to go all Kathleen Kennedy on itself. Stops serving popular $1.50 Polish hotdog on its food court menu in order to replace it with a $5 vegan acai bowl. https://tinyurl.com/y7mdff92 Lefties love replacing things and thinking no one will notice, whether it be superheroes, word meanings, food, and even citizens.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 10, 2018 01:13 PM (/qEW2)

148 30
To be fair, most of Nevada is pretty much useless lunar landscape only fit for geologists to reluctantly run through as fast as possible


Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:07 PM (39g3+)


Nevada gold mines are one of the largest sources of gold in the world

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 10, 2018 06:09 PM (10vO4) 


and silver, too.    in the late 1800's, the US Mint opened up Carson City, Nevada to mint dollars.  the amount of silver pulled in a few decades dropped the world price of silver by a large percentage with the massive new supply.


The "CC" mintmark is one of the rarer ones, O for New Orleans is the other unusual mark.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 10, 2018 01:13 PM (UsCnO)

149 The Feds have a history with fucking with ranchers and other folks out west, don't they?

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 06:11 PM (8SG/h)


Most of the West is federal land, so it's inevitable.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite [b] [/b] [i] [/i] at July 10, 2018 01:13 PM (txw6d)

150
"You have nothing to fear from Barack Obama! "




Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 10, 2018 01:13 PM (/TNyL)

151 Most of the Land administered by the Feds is actually deeded to the States. The States could toss the Feds out on their asses if they chose to. But they'd lose all that sweet sweet lucre.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:13 PM (AkocS)

152 Damn this Trump guys is good. He really is elevating trolling to a new level of super zen genius. Lefty heads explode at this news and they start shouting that "Trump is pardoning domestic terrorists!!! Eleventy!!!!" . . until, of course, it is pointed out that Obama pardoned ACTUAL domestic terrorists who bombed innocent people. Then this story dies a sudden and tragic death by pillow asphyxiation.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 10, 2018 01:13 PM (qn3JX)

153 The Trump force has landed in Brussels; hope he gives it to the europeans, good and hard. Also pissing off May by talking about his good friend 'Boris'. lulz

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 01:14 PM (a0IVu)

154 The whole situation with the ranchers in WY was Zero's brush back on us normals. Failure theater. There are many more of these stories to surface, I believe.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2018 01:14 PM (iiixZ)

155 tcn; when did Ak. lose the ability to homestead?

Posted by: yeah this at July 10, 2018 01:14 PM (uhKSs)

156 Obama: wrong again on virtually everything.

I can only think of one thing he did that was right -- giving the order to kill those Somali pirates early on in his term.

Posted by: ShainS at July 10, 2018 01:14 PM (zTp4o)

157 it that weed burning by ranchers was terrorism, then Obama/Hillary/Mueller all deserve multiple life sentences. 

Their children's children could be locked up for life and still not come close to paying back America for their subversive crime syndicate schemes.  Deep State always investigates itself and finds "no intent" to rape pillage burn steal murder.

Just an accident the "I see nothing" cops could never find Hillary's secret server, but they are sure Trump colluded with Russia, cuz they fabricated the evidence to prove it.
But yeah, Trump picked a good time (while focus is on courts) to show why we need real justice, not DeepState mafia dirty cops.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 10, 2018 01:15 PM (bT8Z4)

158 144 136 most of Nevada is pretty much useless lunar landscape only fit for geologists to reluctantly run through as fast as possible" Well, I've actually driven from Carson City, thru Ely, and on.... yeah, you nailed it. Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 06:10 PM (7LY+6) Highway 50. The loneliest highway in America? Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 06:12 PM (8SG/h) On Hwy 50, out in the middle of nowhere... is an offramp... Lost Road to Hidden Valley, no services, but a little camper symbol... Always wanted to see where the hell that goes...

Posted by: Don Q at July 10, 2018 01:15 PM (NgKpN)

159 93 through Nevada is beautiful lunar landscape.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:15 PM (AkocS)

160 The whole situation with the ranchers in WY was Zero's brush back on us normals.

Failure theater.

There are many more of these stories to surface, I believe.


Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2018 06:14 PM

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He and his DOJ were sending a message to "normal" people to not mess around on Federal land. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 10, 2018 01:15 PM (+Dllb)

161 151> And Trump has signaled that he's open to returning some, much, a bit, whatever... back to the people.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2018 01:15 PM (iiixZ)

162 Then this story dies a sudden and tragic death by pillow asphyxiation. Posted by: Publius Redux at July 10, 2018 06:13 PM that's not funny

Posted by: Antonin Scailia at July 10, 2018 01:15 PM (N/a4K)

163 145 Many people don't realize how close we came to a shooting war during the Bundy standoff. One itchy trigger finger on either side and all hell would have broken loose. I don't think you could put that genie back in the bottle.

Posted by: rickl at July 10, 2018 06:12 PM (sdi6R)


One of my old neighbor's had his father come in from NV to visit.  His father was a federal ranger.  He said if we were going to have another civil war it would start out west in a fight with the feds over land and water rights.  He said the ranchers out there hated the feds.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 10, 2018 01:16 PM (mpXpK)

164 Also pissing off May by talking about his good friend 'Boris'.

Seriously, the guy looks like he just stepped out of a wind tunnel.  No way is that not deliberate.  I can overlook lots of things, but not this.

Posted by: pep at July 10, 2018 01:16 PM (T6t7i)

165 Many people don't realize how close we came to a shooting war during the Bundy standoff. Yes. I want to emphasize this. It was getting ][ this close to Fort Sumpter time. There were an awful lot of very angry, close-to-breaking-point pissed off people in rural western USA with a lot of guns and practice with them. I think they've started to simmer down a little bit now. For now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:16 PM (39g3+)

166 While Schistosomiasis was previously linked to impoverished parts of South America, sub-Saharan Africa where water hygiene is limited, recent outbreaks were reported on the Mediterranean. In 2014, six people were infected after swimming in the Cavu river, in Corsica. Carrying the diseases American will not carry

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:17 PM (JFO2v)

167 From what I understand, there are/were some mining interests in that area. Uranium mining interests. Posted by: Bert G at July 10, 2018 06:03 PM (yzxic) That need not cause a conflict. Actual amount of land sequestered from other uses to permit mining is tiny. Mineral exploration may require access to vast tracts of land, but the impact is minuscule.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 01:18 PM (gkqo1)

168 EU President Donald Tuck or Tucks or some shit mumbled something , probably in French, about how the US doesn't have any friends and how Europe spends LOTS of money of defense. 


Shh, little bitch.  President Trump is currently stomping through Europe with ass-kicking boots and he just might hear you.

Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 10, 2018 01:18 PM (/TNyL)

169 >>>Billy Dee Williams to return as Lando Calrissian for Episode 9 Will he be pansexual like Don Glover (Dong Lover) in the Solo movie? SJWs always double down, so I don't see how they can avoid it. Maybe they should rename the character Downlow Calrissian.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 10, 2018 01:18 PM (/qEW2)

170 He said if we were going to have another civil war it would start out west in a fight with the feds over land and water rights ---------- While that is happening, Texas will reclaim the land that is rightfully ours from NM and CO.

Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 01:18 PM (sX1BW)

171 Seriously, the guy looks like he just stepped out of a wind tunnel. No way is that not deliberate. I can overlook lots of things, but not this. I think Boris Johnson combs his hair with a balloon. through Nevada is beautiful lunar landscape. Some of it, some is just... the worst sort of empty wasteland, what people think of when they think desert. But with no cactus.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:18 PM (39g3+)

172 But TIMOTHY MCVEIGH !

Posted by: Leftist answer to eveything about white people with guns at July 10, 2018 01:18 PM (koNhm)

173 164 Also pissing off May by talking about his good friend 'Boris'.

Seriously, the guy looks like he just stepped out of a wind tunnel. No way is that not deliberate. I can overlook lots of things, but not this.

Posted by: pep at July 10, 2018 06:16 PM (T6t7i)

His hair is a mess. All the time.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 01:18 PM (a0IVu)

174 >>Schistosomiasis was previously linked to impoverished parts of South America, sub-Saharan Africa where water hygiene is limited Water Hygiene. Don't shit in your wells, retards.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:18 PM (AkocS)

175 Costco starting to go all Kathleen Kennedy on itself. Stops serving popular $1.50 Polish hotdog on its food court menu in order to replace it with a $5 vegan acai bowl. " Ah, no. Some stores in the NW are shifting their menu. Buck fiddy dog and soda remain. They tested the al pastor in several markets... it's good stuff. Their brisket sandwich, though...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 01:19 PM (7LY+6)

176 158 144 136 most of Nevada is pretty much useless lunar landscape only fit for geologists to reluctantly run through as fast as possible" Well, I've actually driven from Carson City, thru Ely, and on.... yeah, you nailed it. Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 10, 2018 06:10 PM (7LY+6) Highway 50. The loneliest highway in America? Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 06:12 PM (8SG/h) On Hwy 50, out in the middle of nowhere... is an offramp... Lost Road to Hidden Valley, no services, but a little camper symbol... Always wanted to see where the hell that goes... Posted by: Don Q at July 10, 2018 06:15 PM (NgKpN) The Hills Have Eyes... Something, something, and something else.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:19 PM (8SG/h)

177 It is impossible to despise America's history-making first, and last, pot-smoking bisexual President enough.

Posted by: Monty James at July 10, 2018 01:20 PM (gKOMX)

178 167 From what I understand, there are/were some mining interests in that area. Uranium mining interests. Posted by: Bert G at July 10, 2018 06:03 PM (yzxic) That need not cause a conflict. Actual amount of land sequestered from other uses to permit mining is tiny. Mineral exploration may require access to vast tracts of land, but the impact is minuscule. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 06:18 PM (gkqo1) I seem to remember it had something to do with available fresh water.... Ranchers had prior claim to the water rights....

Posted by: Don Q at July 10, 2018 01:20 PM (NgKpN)

179 * on defense.

Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 10, 2018 01:20 PM (/TNyL)

180 Most of the Land administered by the Feds is actually deeded to the States. The States could toss the Feds out on their asses if they chose to. But they'd lose all that sweet sweet lucre. Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 06:13 PM (AkocS) Can you do two minutes on what that means? Back here in the settled colonies we don't always understand that dialect. Serious question. How does federal land deeded to states work? TIA

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 10, 2018 01:20 PM (fuK7c)

181 EU President Donald Tuck or Tucks or some shit mumbled something , probably in French, about how the US doesn't have any friends and how Europe spends LOTS of money of defense. Many of the nation states are spending the bare minimum, 2% of the budget. The US is carrying almost all of the cost. I think Trump should just end NATO, roll it up. F you, you hate us and you don't need us any longer. The entire point of NATO was to protect from the Soviet Union and stabilize Europe. Now that most of Europe has the testicles of a flea and the Soviet Union is gone, good riddence to that huge cost. And if you're still concerned about Russia, we'll stick around... in Eastern Europe, where we're closer to the danger. And coincidentally, with nations who love us and the costs are immensely lower.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:21 PM (39g3+)

182 'Quick, name all the songs about Shoes!' Can't Afford No Shoes Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy Stinkfoot (python boots) off the top of my head

Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at July 10, 2018 01:21 PM (UdKB7)

183 Are we tired of #Winning?

Posted by: C. Sheen at July 10, 2018 01:21 PM (ctuyM)

184 To be fair, most of Nevada is pretty much useless lunar landscape only fit for geologists to reluctantly run through as fast as possible Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:07 PM (39g3+) Speaking as a geologist (who once even worked in Nevada), in a hot climate, ambling is the preferred mode of locomotion. And that gives you time to study the makeup of what you are ambling across.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 01:21 PM (gkqo1)

185 163 145 Many people don't realize how close we came to a shooting war during the Bundy standoff. One itchy trigger finger on either side and all hell would have broken loose. I don't think you could put that genie back in the bottle. Posted by: rickl at July 10, 2018 06:12 PM (sdi6R) One of my old neighbor's had his father come in from NV to visit. His father was a federal ranger. He said if we were going to have another civil war it would start out west in a fight with the feds over land and water rights. He said the ranchers out there hated the feds. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 10, 2018 06:16 PM (mpXpK) There are a few ranchers out west who have blogs. I agree 100% agree that if a Civil War starts it will be from fucking with ranchers and farmers over water and land rights.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:21 PM (8SG/h)

186 Die With Your Boots On (Iron Maiden) Fairies Wear Boots (Black Sabbath) Here as always, I prefer Bruce Dickinson over Ozzy Osbourne.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2018 01:21 PM (AzW6q)

187 I saw Al Pastor open for Mark Knopfler at The Whiskey in '92.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 01:21 PM (Bv9F2)

188 172 But TIMOTHY MCVEIGH ! Posted by: Leftist answer to eveything about white people with guns at July 10, 2018 06:18 PM (koNhm) Was an atheist and statist.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:21 PM (JFO2v)

189 Blue Suede Shoes

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 01:22 PM (Bv9F2)

190 99 What does Kamala's toe think about this.

Posted by: PhilDirt at July 10, 2018 06:04 PM (fD9eo)


Has Kamala's Toe announced for 2020 yet?



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 10, 2018 01:22 PM (UsCnO)

191 As bad as Obama was, he still was better than Clinton. The Clinton administration literally murdered dozens of women and children for not paying taxes. Burned children ALIVE. Shot down a mother holding her baby. There's nothing to compare with that level of evil in American history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:22 PM (39g3+)

192 There is quite a bit of arid, unusable land between the plains and the west coast. It is starkly beautiful to drive through it. Even flying over it is breathtaking in a way. don't understand why the Feds have to own it (and the 85% of Nevada is just f*cking nuts- although I understand ya gotta test your nukes/missiles planes/alien spacecraft somewhere) - but 85 % of a US sovereign state . . . owned by the Feds? Just. Wrong.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 10, 2018 01:23 PM (qn3JX)

193 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:21 PM (39g3+) Actually... even after Trump bitching them out about it a couple years ago... Most of the EU spends way LESS than 2% of GDP.. which is the problem.

Posted by: Don Q at July 10, 2018 01:23 PM (NgKpN)

194 Gotta bring back Lando cause Carrie has died, and they killed off Han, and then dipshit Rian went and had Luke Skywalker die stupidly.

Posted by: buzzion at July 10, 2018 01:23 PM (lKs2v)

195 Is another Obama injustice rectified? Are the lefties setting their hair on fire?
Then I approve.

Posted by: MAGA Justice League at July 10, 2018 01:23 PM (Zmczq)

196 178 167 From what I understand, there are/were some mining interests in that area. Uranium mining interests. Posted by: Bert G at July 10, 2018 06:03 PM (yzxic) That need not cause a conflict. Actual amount of land sequestered from other uses to permit mining is tiny. Mineral exploration may require access to vast tracts of land, but the impact is minuscule. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 06:18 PM (gkqo1) I seem to remember it had something to do with available fresh water.... Ranchers had prior claim to the water rights.... Posted by: Don Q at July 10, 2018 06:20 PM (NgKpN) It's the deep fresh water aquifers that the feds want to control as well. They really do hate US citizens.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:24 PM (8SG/h)

197 Bad Sneakers

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2018 01:24 PM (eXA4G)

198 >>> Alaska 62% Arizona 39% California 46% Colorado 36% Idaho 62% Montana 29% New Mexico 35% Nevada 85% Oregon 53% Washington 29% Wyoming 49% Overall the federal government owns thirty percent of the land in the United States, almost 650 million acres. And 66.5% of Utah. We are second to Nevada for the most land grabbed by the feds. Govt was supposed to return most of that land back to the Western states and reneged on the deal. And under Obama it was assumed if returned, we would ruin it like a child ruins a toy. Which is why he grabbed even more land right before he left office. Never mind that the cities in those federal areas are dying because the younger generation has to flee to find work and survive. Lefties think tourist dollars will somehow make up the difference. It doesn't.

Posted by: LizLem at July 10, 2018 01:24 PM (hvf9s)

199 Billy Dee Williams to return as Lando Calrissian for Episode 9 The only character with charisma in the entire movie. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 05:56 PM (39g3+) Hey!

Posted by: The Porgs at July 10, 2018 01:24 PM (ZSkht)

200 Speaking as a geologist (who once even worked in Nevada), in a hot climate, ambling is the preferred mode of locomotion. And that gives you time to study the makeup of what you are ambling across. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 06:21 PM (gkqo1) Love out in death valley. meteor craters, rocks that move, and sand dunes.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:24 PM (JFO2v)

201 And if you're still concerned about Russia, we'll stick around... in Eastern Europe, where we're closer to the danger. And coincidentally, with nations who love us and the costs are immensely lower.
----

"Melania, honey, call that guy I like. That one guy that lives near your mom. I got a HYOOG deal for him! "

Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 10, 2018 01:24 PM (/TNyL)

202 Christopher Walken is known to be an aficionado of fine leather footwear, mostly if the Italian variety. Nancy Sinatra even sang a song about it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 01:24 PM (Bv9F2)

203 There are a few ranchers out west who have blogs. They are interesting reading. Really nice folks, great pictures of scenery, folksy, wonderful thoughts, but God help you if you get between them and their water for their stock. Or hurt their family. Or take what's theirs. They'll open their home to you and feed you and fix up your hurts, but they are still tough as nails.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:24 PM (39g3+)

204 Second the recommendation to read the backstory on this at CTH. What was done to these ranchers over several decades was despicable.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 10, 2018 01:25 PM (Ith9K)

205 191 Chris R. Taylor Helloooo - remember me? I am the only illegal alien that the democrats ever cared about enforcing the law against because, well commie Cuba is a workers' paradise - amirite?

Posted by: Elian gun in my face Gonzalez at July 10, 2018 01:25 PM (qn3JX)

206 197 Bad Sneakers Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2018 06:24 PM (eXA4G) and a pina colada my friend

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:25 PM (JFO2v)

207 Tonapah FTW There has to be water in the Sierras behind the fences, enough to populate with the kids and cattle.

Posted by: yeah this at July 10, 2018 01:25 PM (uhKSs)

208 From what I understand, there are/were some mining interests in that area. Uranium mining interests.
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Tied to Harry Reid, the multi-multimillionaire whose only source of income, basically, is his Senate job.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 10, 2018 01:25 PM (Evws/)

209 These Boots Are Made For Walken (This was a two-parter)

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 01:25 PM (Bv9F2)

210 Dwight Hammond has served about three years of his sentence and Steven Hammond has served about four of his. They'd of been better off resorting to biological warfare. Not far away in The Dalles Oregon occurred the largest Bio Warfare attack in American history. The guilty party was Ma Anand Sheela, secretary to the Bagwan Rashneesh. Pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 20 years but was released after 29 months.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 10, 2018 01:26 PM (0tfLf)

211 188 172 But TIMOTHY MCVEIGH ! Posted by: Leftist answer to eveything about white people with guns at July 10, 2018 06:18 PM (koNhm) Was an atheist and statist. Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 06:21 PM (JFO2v) Has an interesting background tied to the Deep State as well if we are looking down rabbit holes.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:26 PM (8SG/h)

212 I"ve said it before and will say it again: The people worried about the "signal" this sends to Manafort and Cohen need to be a fuck lot more worried about this signal: "Resist the government while carrying guns, and I will pardon you." If our President has learned this lesson, and all indications are he has, Tom Kratman's "Caliphate" is looking like a best case scenario for the left.

Posted by: trev006 at July 10, 2018 01:26 PM (DwZYa)

213 Remember this? "In an event that has led to health warnings and turned a river orange, the Environmental Protection Agency says one of its safety teams accidentally released contaminated water from a mine into the Animas River in southwest Colorado." 8/10/15 NPR Some animals are more equal than others.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 10, 2018 01:26 PM (m/Gc2)

214 The Angels Want to Wear My Red Shoes

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 10, 2018 01:26 PM (fuK7c)

215 Bawack Ubama would have had them shot if he had any guts.

Posted by: Constantine XI at July 10, 2018 01:26 PM (yiAMj)

216 The Feds have a history with fucking with ranchers and other folks out west, don't they? ---------- The Crown has a history with fucking with people who work the land that the Crown believes is the Crown's. Posted by: SH at July 10, 2018 06:12 PM (sX1BW) The Feds have forgotten that they are not royalty. Rather, they work for the ranchers the way they work for all citizens.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 10, 2018 01:26 PM (/qEW2)

217 The land itself does not belong to the Federal Government. They don't hold ownership of the land through Deeded Right. The States do. The Feds are merely administering the usage of the Land. By fiat, essentially. In the 90s, the State of Nevada took back a bunch of lands by merely telling the Feds to prove ownership or get the fuck out. I think pretty much all Forest Service Lands (outside of the national parks and some monuments) are this way. They are owned by the States.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:27 PM (AkocS)

218 Helloooo - remember me? I am the only illegal alien that the democrats ever cared about enforcing the law against because, well commie Cuba is a workers' paradise - amirite? Posted by: Elian gun in my face Gonzalez at July 10, 2018 06:25 PM (qn3JX) No swing set for lil cuban boys.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:27 PM (JFO2v)

219 And 66.5% of Utah. We are second to Nevada for the most land grabbed by the feds. Sorry I missed Utah I thought one was missing but my brain isn't working well these days

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:27 PM (39g3+)

220 I have to say the Daily Mail is doing a bang up job of covering what Melania is wearing on this Europe trip.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 01:27 PM (a0IVu)

221 181 Chris R Taylor **** EU President? heh. That is so funny. hahahahhahahh.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 10, 2018 01:27 PM (qn3JX)

222 204 Second the recommendation to read the backstory on this at CTH. What was done to these ranchers over several decades was despicable. Posted by: Jen the original at July 10, 2018 06:25 PM (Ith9K) CTH?

Posted by: Don Q at July 10, 2018 01:27 PM (NgKpN)

223 Am I right that Bill Clinton is the one who vastly increased the amount of Federal lands in the west? Posted by: TexasDan at July 10, 2018 05:57 PM (yL25O)
It goes back to me.

Posted by: Zombie Teddy Roosevelt at July 10, 2018 01:28 PM (ujg0T)

224 217 The land itself does not belong to the Federal Government. They don't hold ownership of the land through Deeded Right. The States do. Watch a state try to use THEIR land and see what happens. DC would call in a nuke strike.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:28 PM (JFO2v)

225 Wingtip Shoes -- Henry Lee Summer

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 01:28 PM (Bv9F2)

226 Nevada, what a great place for a congressional act requiring some of that lunar scape be used as a safe nuclear waste repository.

Posted by: dagny at July 10, 2018 01:28 PM (nRWPy)

227 Shot down a mother holding her baby. Ruby Ridge was under Bush the Elder. It's all Deep State.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 10, 2018 01:29 PM (fuK7c)

228 I seem to remember it had something to do with available fresh water.... Ranchers had prior claim to the water rights.... Posted by: Don Q at July 10, 2018 06:20 PM (NgKpN) If you have people of good will on both sides, usually a working relationship can be established, though. The conflict between resource extraction and other land users is not so much inherent in the situation as it is in the attitudes of the parties involved.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 01:29 PM (gkqo1)

229 >>>Always wanted to see where the hell that goes... it's always been el nido for me

Posted by: concrete girl at July 10, 2018 01:29 PM (BVthB)

230 186: Fairies Wear Boots is a hilarious song. Since it's Ozzie, it's probably autobiographical.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 10, 2018 01:29 PM (T95MO)

231 Has an interesting background tied to the Deep State as well if we are looking down rabbit holes. Honestly... that's one rabbit hole I really don't want to look down because I get the sinking suspicion every time I look closer that the reality is something none of us want to even consider about our own government and how far they were willing to go.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:29 PM (39g3+)

232 They start shouting that "Trump is pardoning domestic terrorists!!! Eleventy!!!!" . . until, of course, it is pointed out that Obama pardoned ACTUAL domestic terrorists who bombed innocent people. Then this story dies a sudden and tragic death by pillow asphyxiation. *pops popcorn in anticipation*

Posted by: LizLem at July 10, 2018 01:29 PM (hvf9s)

233 If HRC had been elected, all of us would have been Bundys and Hammonds. Unless, of course, Ace's plan to become a Democrat and recede into the background was viable.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 10, 2018 01:30 PM (S26Uu)

234 I think Sen. Mike Lee has 17 states signed on to sue to end the Federal legal claims to the land.

Posted by: yeah this at July 10, 2018 01:30 PM (uhKSs)

235

 

CTH = Conservative Treehouse

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 10, 2018 01:30 PM (10vO4)

236 220 I have to say the Daily Mail is doing a bang up job of covering what Melania is wearing on this Europe trip. Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 10, 2018 06:27 PM (a0IVu) Funny how they tried to dress up Michelle and her style. Melania style coverage always seems like ugly girls with cramps sniping.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:30 PM (JFO2v)

237 I remember Elian Gonzalez being sent back to that Cuban shithole and helllhole and praying that he would not grow up to bite our country in the ass in any way.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:30 PM (8SG/h)

238 >>>Dee Williams in Lando Calrissian - Space Swinger<<<

Didn't Calirssian have a thing for his co-pilot, Nein Nunb?  Muppet, sexbot, -- some dudes are just not that picky.

Posted by: Fritz at July 10, 2018 01:31 PM (kf11g)

239

 

Boots are not shoes

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 10, 2018 01:31 PM (10vO4)

240 203 There are a few ranchers out west who have blogs.

They are interesting reading. Really nice folks, great pictures of scenery, folksy, wonderful thoughts, but God help you if you get between them and their water for their stock. Or hurt their family. Or take what's theirs. They'll open their home to you and feed you and fix up your hurts, but they are still tough as nails.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:24 PM (39g3+)


Yep. and all around smart. Did a lot f work with them in Montana, and NW, These guys know mechanics, husbandry, real estate, commodities, etc etc. vary savvy folks. 

Posted by: MAGA Justice League at July 10, 2018 01:31 PM (Zmczq)

241 Can't Afford No Shoes Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy Stinkfoot (python boots) off the top of my head Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at July 10, 2018 06:21 PM (UdKB7) There is a wonderful song, called "High Heel Shoes" by an obscure Seattle singer named Virgil Brown. Hard to find it anywhere, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 01:31 PM (gkqo1)

242 "Women, don't forget, you have the power to give life and men will try to control that"

Posted by: Insane Pussy Posse at July 10, 2018 01:31 PM (UdKB7)

243 >>Watch a state try to use THEIR land and see what happens. All it takes is the will to do it. The Feds are constantly locking up Public Lands in their Experimental Wilderness program and kicking state citizens out / off. Ususally these pieces are suspiciously close to Private Lands that have been entered into programs to keep them from ever being developed... By large political donors.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:31 PM (AkocS)

244 I remember Elian Gonzalez being sent back to that Cuban shithole and helllhole and praying that he would not grow up to bite our country in the ass in any way. Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 06:30 PM (8SG/h) wasn't he sent back to his family - his father ?

Posted by: runner at July 10, 2018 01:31 PM (bUjCl)

245 Boots are not shoes Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 10, 2018 06:31 PM (10vO4) --------- Do I need to resort to Venn diagrams on this?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 01:32 PM (Bv9F2)

246 I know its really tough to justify constitutionally but I'm okay with super special areas being designated federal parks like Crater Lake, Yosemite, Yellowstone, that kind of thing. I can live with that. Reluctantly, but I can live with it. The problem is, that power has been abused horrendously over the decades to turn usable land into parks and monuments. A large chunk of the land Obama turned into a national monument was free grazing territory for ranchers in the area. Why? Because F ranchers, as near as I can tell. Oh, and to keep it out of the hands of potential mineral and oil harvesting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:32 PM (39g3+)

247 Billy Dee Williams to return as Lando Calrissian for Episode 9 The only character with charisma in the entire movie. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 05:56 PM (39g3+) Whaaaaaat? Lesse...you got- Mary Sue Ultrajedi Darth Rodent The Unnecessary Black Guy with Nothing to Do The Whiny Pilot The Short, Fat, Ugly, Bad Driving Asian Woman Who Talks Funny and is Absolutely Not a Negative Stereotype It's like Charismafest! Since, they're doing away with the old hero in lousy ways- I believe that Lando is raped by a Sarlacc for a thousand years. The upside? Lando gets plenty of ice cold Schlitz Malt Liquor to drink while the Sarlacc is doing his business.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 10, 2018 01:32 PM (ZSkht)

248 >>> Sorry I missed Utah I thought one was missing but my brain isn't working well these days Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:27 PM (39g3+) No problem! *blows kiss* Most people forget us, which is what we Utahns prefer. Keeps the riffraff from coming here and turning us purple. (Not that they aren't trying, sigh.) I've heard my Idaho friends say the same thing.

Posted by: LizLem at July 10, 2018 01:32 PM (hvf9s)

249 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5939583 There's Melania getting off the plane in Belgium. She's wearing a trench coat. A $2K trench coat. She switched shoes, too. Still sky-high, but not the "audacious" ones she boarded the plane with.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 10, 2018 01:33 PM (8O3HH)

250 Prosecuted by the same cocksuckers worthless Sessions refuses to fire.
------------------

The Office of Special Counsel (not to be confused with Mueller's Special Counsel) opened a case file on President Trump's Interior Secretary, Ryan Zinke for a possible violation of the Hatch Act because he posted a photo of Trump socks on Twitter.

Yes, that is correct. A Trump official is being investigated over his socks. -GatewayPundit.com



Posted by: Under Fire at July 10, 2018 01:33 PM (r9UYA)

251 'Quick, name all the songs about Shoes!' "High Heeled Sneakers." You bunch of little whippersnappers. That's why you can't feel the grass on my lawn you're standing on.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/i][/s][/b] at July 10, 2018 01:33 PM (HaL55)

252 244 I remember Elian Gonzalez being sent back to that Cuban shithole and helllhole and praying that he would not grow up to bite our country in the ass in any way. Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 06:30 PM (8SG/h) wasn't he sent back to his family - his father ? Posted by: runner at July 10, 2018 06:31 PM (bUjCl) I figured the Castro's were going to brainwash him and give him top educational and military training. I'm glad I was wrong.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:34 PM (8SG/h)

253 The beneficiary of Obamas commutation this time is Oscar Lopez Rivera. Hes no angel, but hes being lionized as one and not just by too many Puerto Ricans, but also by celebrities.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:34 PM (JFO2v)

254

 

Blue Suede Shoes

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 10, 2018 01:35 PM (10vO4)

255 (The Angels Wanna Wear My) Red Shoes by Elvis Costello

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 10, 2018 01:35 PM (qn3JX)

256 Has an interesting background tied to the Deep State as well if we are looking down rabbit holes. Honestly... that's one rabbit hole I really don't want to look down because I get the sinking suspicion every time I look closer that the reality is something none of us want to even consider about our own government and how far they were willing to go. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:29 PM Good book called The Third Terrorist by Jayna Davis. Really leaves you scratching yiour head wondering what the hell the gov'mint was thinking and doing.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 10, 2018 01:35 PM (0tfLf)

257 Shoe song Toby Keith - Courtesy Of The Red, White And Blue (The Angry American)

Posted by: X-ray at July 10, 2018 01:35 PM (Mxa6K)

258 These guys know mechanics, husbandry, real estate, commodities, etc etc. They kind of have to, they are usually so far away from any authorities or resources, they have to do it themselves. And, to be honest, they want to. They can smith up tools, they know carpentry, medicine, botany. Its pretty amazing talking with someone who grew up just learning everything they needed to in order to make it through another year. And usually so humble and pleasant the whole time. But if, say, someone raped a daughter or killed someone they loved? They'd just hunt you down, kill you, and bury you in some dark corner. Nope, never saw him, passed through. Dunno where he went. Want some coffee?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:35 PM (39g3+)

259 Hey! Posted by: The Porgs I is your woman now.

Posted by: Bessie at July 10, 2018 01:35 PM (IqV8l)

260 wasn't he sent back to his family - his father ? Posted by: runner at July 10, 2018 06:31 PM (bUjCl) Janet Herman Munster Reno

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:35 PM (JFO2v)

261 "The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" by Traffic

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 10, 2018 01:36 PM (qn3JX)

262 There is a wonderful song, called "High Heel Shoes" by an obscure Seattle singer named Virgil Brown. Hard to find it anywhere, though. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 06:31 PM (gkqo1) --------------- Not that hard to find, at least online. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWnfFZ7RN0c

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 10, 2018 01:36 PM (uPlpz)

263 TRUMP IS FIELDING AN ARMY OF ARSONISTS TO BURN EVERYTHING DOWN!!! AFTER ALL "LET IT BURN" WAS A KNOWN *CONSERVATIVE* SLOGAN!!!

Posted by: Man with Hair on Fire at July 10, 2018 01:36 PM (JhE5a)

264 Goody two-shoes, Adam Ant

Posted by: runner at July 10, 2018 01:36 PM (bUjCl)

265 245 Boots are not shoes Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 10, 2018 06:31 PM (10vO4) --------- Do I need to resort to Venn diagrams on this? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 06:32 PM (Bv9F2) If anyone breaks out Powerpoint, ima gonna cut a bitch.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2018 01:36 PM (eXA4G)

266 Thanks to the crimes of the FBI, next time there's a Bundy standoff, alot of normals are going to be against the Feds. Could be active resitance or could be jury nullifying, but there's going to be consequences.

Posted by: forest at July 10, 2018 01:36 PM (/1c+O)

267 The Animas River turned orange, but there was no real fish kill, as I recall.  Most of that color is just clay and dirt ... same stuff that made the canyons. 

There were some chemicals mixed in there, but it makes me wonder if all that "Superfund" money for various cleanups isn't just another cash cow for various donors to campaigns.  Millions for cleanup, half probably ends up downstream anyway ... or in some desert.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 10, 2018 01:36 PM (bT8Z4)

268 To be fair, most of Nevada is pretty much useless lunar landscape only fit for geologists to reluctantly run through as fast as possible Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:07 PM (39g3+) Supposedly some of the best chukar partridge hunting in America. Dog and I need to check that out.

Posted by: clutch at July 10, 2018 01:37 PM (kiSdp)

269 I figured the Castro's were going to brainwash him and give him top educational and military training. I'm glad I was wrong. Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio You weren't wrong.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2018 01:37 PM (IqV8l)

270 And here I thought there were only 4 or 5 songs about shoes.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 10, 2018 01:38 PM (WaRju)

271 239 Boots are not shoes. ***** Hmmmm. Now THIS is a metaphysical debate I can get behind having. "is the thumb a finger" is another.

Posted by: Publius Redux at July 10, 2018 01:38 PM (qn3JX)

272 >>Supposedly some of the best chukar partridge hunting in America Yeah, up near the Idaho Border.

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:38 PM (AkocS)

273 Regarding Star Wars, I finally watched, uh well most of The Last Jedi. I came away with two impressions. 1) Its really slow and dull. Boring. Inconceivable for a Star Wars film. 2) The black guy is basically played for humor the whole time. He's a hapless dork who is the butt of every joke. When he finally gets a chance to shine, chubby Asian girl stops him with some BS about love. I mean loads of stupid crap and grrl power and lame Mary Suism and "what the??" moments but they didn't really stand out because it was like watching paint dry.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:38 PM (39g3+)

274 255 (The Angels Wanna Wear My) Red Shoes by Elvis Costello Ahem. btw, tragically, Elvis Costello has a particularly aggressive cancer. Aggressive is never a good word in this context.

Posted by: #214 at July 10, 2018 01:38 PM (fuK7c)

275 Another shoe song: Nashville Sneakers, by the Guess Who: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=VhSy7wGlHdw

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 01:38 PM (gkqo1)

276 My Adidas, RUN DMC

Posted by: runner at July 10, 2018 01:38 PM (bUjCl)

277 265 If anyone breaks out Powerpoint, ima gonna cut a bitch. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2018 06:36 PM (eXA4G) LibreOffice Impress is cool, though, right? /dons chainmail

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 10, 2018 01:38 PM (NL6wI)

278 But if, say, someone raped a daughter or killed someone they loved? They'd just hunt you down, kill you, and bury you in some dark corner. Nope, never saw him, passed through. Dunno where he went. Want some coffee? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:35 PM (39g3+) Or be like the men that sit to pee in england that let about 2000 of their daughters be raped by mohammedans. Or the the people of San Francisco that let their daughter be killed by and illegal.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:39 PM (JFO2v)

279 249 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5939583 There's Melania getting off the plane in Belgium. She's wearing a trench coat. A $2K trench coat. She switched shoes, too. Still sky-high, but not the "audacious" ones she boarded the plane with. Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 10, 2018 06:33 PM How the hell can she or any woman walk in those things?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 10, 2018 01:39 PM (0tfLf)

280 >>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5939583 There's Melania getting off the plane in Belgium. I love how the press always, ALWAYS lists how expensive Melania's clothes are, in every article they do. In the heading even. That is the only thing they can ding her on, since she always looks gorgeous and regal. But when Michelle wore fancy duds (which was often), the prices were excused away because SHE's ONE OF US, with better arms.

Posted by: LizLem at July 10, 2018 01:39 PM (hvf9s)

281 Surprised he isn't here in this thread.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 10, 2018 06:01 PM (6FqZa)

I think I know.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 10, 2018 01:39 PM (wYseH)

282 "is the thumb a finger" is another. Posted by: Publius Redux at July 10, 2018 06:38 PM (qn3JX) Not a finger. It's The Thumb.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:40 PM (8SG/h)

283 remember BOBBY SOCKS?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 10, 2018 01:40 PM (WaRju)

284 Remember UGG BOOTS?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 10, 2018 01:40 PM (NL6wI)

285 But if, say, someone raped a daughter or killed someone they loved? They'd just hunt you down, kill you, and bury you in some dark corner. Nope, never saw him, passed through. Dunno where he went. Want some coffee? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor As it should be.

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite [/s][/b][/i][/u] at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (XtR0g)

286  The arson charges were from FBI friends and associates, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else [/i] [/b] at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (/ijW5)

287 Travelin' Shoes https://youtu.be/tBYq2uvaIbo

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (IqV8l)

288 Goody Two Shoes - Adam and the Ants

Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (AkocS)

289 That is the only thing they can ding her on, since she always looks gorgeous and regal. Yeah they'd list Michelle Obama's latest fashion atrocity cost in the article, eventually, but they lead with Melania's. And its always outrageous, why do women pay so much for clothes??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (39g3+)

290 Pretzel Logic "I stepped up on the platform The man gave me the news He said, "You must be joking, son Where did you get those shoes?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/i][/s][/b] at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (HaL55)

291 You can't jerk off without The Thumb, so not a finger.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (8SG/h)

292 Those Shoes - Eagles, thanks to the main cool riff from Fingers Felder. (Suck it, Frey and Henley! Almost every cool riff the Eagles ever dd was Leadon or Felder or Walsh)

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (JhE5a)

293 Cody Wilson's Defense Distributed and Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) reached a settlement with the Department of Justice allowing unfettered publication of 3D gun files and other information in a case centered on free speech. -BB

Sweet. Print me up a .50 long gun.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (r9UYA)

294 60 1984, working as a stock clerk at a shoe store. Porn star comes in looking for "fuck me pumps" and every salesman creamed himself. sounds like an episode of married with children

Posted by: Anachronda at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (xGZ+b)

295 Do I need to resort to Venn diagrams on this? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 06:32 PM (Bv9F2) Fav Venn diagram is those that would bloedgen a person for posting a Venn diagram on linkedin.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:41 PM (JFO2v)

296
But if, say, someone raped a daughter or killed someone they loved? They'd just hunt you down, kill you, and bury you in some dark corner. Nope, never saw him, passed through. Dunno where he went. Want some coffee?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:35 PM (39g3+)

---

There are hollers and knobs here in the South that are still like that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else [/i] [/b] at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (/ijW5)

297 Or be like the men that sit to pee in england that let about 2000 of their daughters be raped by mohammedans. That was 2000 of the wrong sorts' daughters, ol' bean. Not anyone who mattered.

Posted by: upper class twits at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (6FqZa)

298 Does a judge have any control over what a prosecutor can try to make the crime? I mean, how does accidentally setting fire to some Federal land become terrorism? Posted by: Lefty's Everywhere at July 10, 2018 05:52 That ounds like complete BS, but then consider it's OR. In my 32 yrs of farming I had to call the RFD several times, I think one or two may have been controlled burns that got out of control, don't really remember. Several were started by the RR company as they burned off along their tracks and least one was caused by the burn barrel sending off sparks. Never burned Fed land but this charge was way out of line, typical of the Lynch DOJ, glad tht evil bitch is gone, even Jeff sleeping is better than that.

Posted by: Farmer at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (fcxoA)

299 Led Boots has no words and it's not about shoes. I spose it could identify as a song about shoes though.

Posted by: f'd at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (UdKB7)

300 Not that hard to find, at least online. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWnfFZ7RN0c Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 10, 2018 06:36 PM (uPlpz) Gee, I looked for it on Ewetoob for years, and never found it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (gkqo1)

301 Probably won't find a picture of Melania in any US based publication

Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (pHfeF)

302 >> You can't jerk off without The Thumb Or a ficus. Always need a ficus.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (8O3HH)

303 Crocs = prison shoes.

Posted by: Weasel at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (5EGmJ)

304 "Thirsty Boots" by Eric Andersen.

Posted by: rickl at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (sdi6R)

305 remember BOBBY SOCKS? Posted by: soothsayerwing plover I wear Robert Hosiery

Posted by: George Will at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (IqV8l)

306 280 >>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5939583 There's Melania getting off the plane in Belgium. I love how the press always, ALWAYS lists how expensive Melania's clothes are, in every article they do. In the heading even. That is the only thing they can ding her on, since she always looks gorgeous and regal. But when Michelle wore fancy duds (which was often), the prices were excused away because SHE's ONE OF US, with better arms. Posted by: LizLem at July 10, 2018 06:39 PM I don't mind that so much. The only thing I ever say is, Melinia can afford it. In fact, she was buying and wearing those clothes long before Moochele got her doctored pay raise in Chicago.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 10, 2018 01:42 PM (0tfLf)

307 180 Most of the Land administered by the Feds is actually deeded to the States.

The States could toss the Feds out on their asses if they chose to.

But they'd lose all that sweet sweet lucre.
Posted by: garrett at July 10, 2018 06:13 PM (AkocS)




Can you do two minutes on what that means?

Back here in the settled colonies we don't always understand that dialect.

Serious question. How does federal land deeded to states work? TIA

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 10, 2018 06:20 PM (fuK7c)


It depends.    Here in Wash state, there are military bases, national parks, and a lot of national forest.   There is also Hanford, on the Columbia River, where the Bomb was created in conjunction with Los Alamos, NM. 


Military is it's own world with their own regulations as most are aware, national parks are accessed but you can't hunt, national forests are very large tracts of open land where most hunt and hike.    

But as with any Federal Land, nobody can develop it, only walk on it, or ride a horse, or an ATV or pick up truck or motorcycle, depending on the specific area.

Understand that much of the West after WWII was nothing after one got away from the port cities or the towns on the major rivers.  The Fed land just "was".     People hiked, hunted, camped, even panned a little gold as a hobby, and nobody bothered them.     


Then, more people and heavier use caused the Feds to become more active managing it.   But they didn't  listen to the locals, only DC.       It went from an echo chamber, to open hatred of the Fed Gov by many.    And these are folks that fly the flag and work their butts off every day.    

There isn't as much ranching as before, but the open land is leased out to ranchers, where they let loose their cattle for grazing.   There is a history on this issue and from the ranchers view,  the FedGov has manipulated the situation for generations to the detriment of the ranchers.


The Bundy ranch incident was the result of the miscommunications, manipulations, and lies for generations between the locals and DC.




Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 10, 2018 01:43 PM (UsCnO)

308 Do I need to resort to Venn diagrams on this? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2018 06:32 PM (Bv9F2) --- Venn would you do that?

Posted by: Axeman at July 10, 2018 01:43 PM (JhE5a)

309 Aha! Posted to youtube just a month ago!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2018 01:43 PM (gkqo1)

310 I wear Robert Hosiery Posted by: George Will Well done.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 10, 2018 01:43 PM (WaRju)

311 "Occupy (insert private, state, federal property here)! It's just for the struggle!" Same people: "oh my god, taking over a federal property in protest! Teh terrorisms!" This is just. I'm glad Trump made this decision.

Posted by: Goober at July 10, 2018 01:43 PM (WsqCN)

312 But if, say, someone raped a daughter or killed someone they loved? They'd just hunt you down, kill you, and bury you in some dark corner. Nope, never saw him, passed through. Dunno where he went. Want some coffee? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:35 PM (39g3+) One of my BFFs is from a very rural Utah town, and likes to joke on occasion that if I ever get in trouble, she can help me bury a body out in the desert. We have her old cop car and a shovel, we are good to go. I'm pretty sure she's only half kidding! Love that girl.

Posted by: LizLem at July 10, 2018 01:43 PM (hvf9s)

313 Footloose - Kenny Loggins

Posted by: runner at July 10, 2018 01:44 PM (bUjCl)

314 You just want someone to talk to They just wanna get their hands on you You get whatever you choose Oh, no, you can't do that Once you started wearin' those shoes

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:44 PM (JFO2v)

315 oh yea Brown Shoes Don't Make It.

Posted by: f'd at July 10, 2018 01:44 PM (UdKB7)

316 She switched shoes, too. Still sky-high, but not the "audacious" ones she boarded the plane with.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 10, 2018 06:33 PM (8O3HH)


I remember when "audacious" was a desirable thing.  Good times, good times.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite [b] [/b] [i] [/i] at July 10, 2018 01:44 PM (txw6d)

317 Billy Dee Williams to return as Lando Calrissian for Episode 9 Where they will completely change his character, then have emo Darth Vader stab him and throw him off a bridge.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at July 10, 2018 01:45 PM (lc+47)

318 nood durbin

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 10, 2018 01:45 PM (WaRju)

319 my smart TV suggests all sorts of videos for me ... one was this guy Cody Snodgres ... former black ops cia guy ... said he was offered the job of blowing up the Murrah building ... claimed in part, it had the records of damages to war victims ... health problems caused by government ??? I forget, uranium or something.  Also knew all about the Clinton's and that whole cocaine business ... more things that had to be destroyed before the public found out.

lots of rabbit holes, and it is becoming clear our government is very happy to destroy evidence of their own crimes. ... Building 7 is a favorite conspiracy to wonder about ... they are certainly hiding a lot.  And they are certainly globalists putting America deep in debt.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 10, 2018 01:45 PM (bT8Z4)

320 Have you heard the news? Can't afford no shoes.

Posted by: George Will at July 10, 2018 01:45 PM (IqV8l)

321 Eagles, thanks to the main cool riff from Fingers Felder. I think he used one of those mouth tubes that Walsh invented for that song, too. Or maybe Joe was there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 01:45 PM (39g3+)

322 NOOD! Posted by: the boy who cried "NOOD!"

Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 10, 2018 01:45 PM (2sCft)

323 Disney won't be happy until all of our childhood memories have been stabbed by emo Darth Vader and thrown off of bridges.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at July 10, 2018 01:46 PM (lc+47)

324 The arson charges were from FBI friends and associates, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 10, 2018 06:41 PM (/ijW5)


Even if the charges weren't from the FBI, they got some of their own out of the whole deal:  https://tinyurl.com/y854vfrp

Posted by: Bert G at July 10, 2018 01:46 PM (yzxic)

325 Shot down a mother holding her baby. "She wuz aimin' a gun at our helichopter! We had to shoot her in the temple!" --Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Louis Freeh Of course there was no helicopter in the area at the time of the sniping, but they're sticking to that story. Oh, and they shot the 14 year old in the back as he was running away. Oh, and in the rules of engagement order, the FBI was given shoot to kill orders if they saw anyone outside the cabin with a gun, regardless of whether that person was threatening anyone with it.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2018 01:46 PM (9qZ3S)

326 274 255 (The Angels Wanna Wear My) Red Shoes by Elvis Costello Ahem. btw, tragically, Elvis Costello has a particularly aggressive cancer. Aggressive is never a good word in this context. Posted by: #214 at July 10, 2018 06:38 PM (fuK7c) Yeah, poor guy. Though career-wise, it really would've been a tragedy if he'd never made his first four albums. A great pop genius streak...with almost no popular success. Weird. Then a long streak of mediocre and poor albums. Till even his cancer got tired of waiting for him to make one more great album and decided to do something about it. Well, hope he makes it thru and gives us one more great album.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 10, 2018 01:46 PM (ZSkht)

327 The BLM, Forest Service, NPS, DFW have all been infiltrated by lib tree huggers. They were weaponized by Obumbles and his ilk

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 10, 2018 01:46 PM (M+Lyo)

328 I would love to see donnie two scoops threaten and bully the UK commies into releasing tommy robinson.....I wonder if he is on the radar.

Posted by: DXO at July 10, 2018 01:46 PM (nzKWW)

329 That was 2000 of the wrong sorts' daughters, ol' bean. Not anyone who mattered. Posted by: upper class twits at July 10, 2018 06:42 PM (6FqZa) exactly! Like the 13 and 14 YO sisters in Bowling Green. Illegals needs the hymen and liberals offer it up. (not theirs, yours)

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 10, 2018 01:47 PM (JFO2v)

330 Lots of deep state to undo....sigh....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 10, 2018 01:48 PM (ujg0T)

331 The Daily Mail usually has a box showing the clothes the subject is wearing, where to get it, and how much it cost, with similar low-priced alternatives if it's expensive. They didn't with Melania this time. For example, see this one about Meghan Markle. Duchess of Sussex now: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5938909 Oh she's been making some terrible faux pas. She :gasp: crossed her legs when sitting. That's some sort of royal no-no. I have no idea why.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 10, 2018 01:48 PM (8O3HH)

332
They are interesting reading. Really nice folks, great pictures of
scenery, folksy, wonderful thoughts, but God help you if you get between
them and their water for their stock. Or hurt their family. Or take
what's theirs. They'll open their home to you and feed you and fix up
your hurts, but they are still tough as nails.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:24 PM (39g3+)


I have heard of these people.    I thought they were called "Americans".    

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 10, 2018 01:50 PM (UsCnO)

333 Hi Guys! Late today. Was listening to Charles Payne on Fox this morning. Didn't really understand all of it, but he was saying that each member state of NATO gets rotated into the top spot, the tip of the spear I guess. He was saying that Germany had something like 220 Leopard main battle tanks, but only 19 of them were operational. They have 14 heavy lift AC, but none of them could fly due to maintenance issues, and the list went on. PDT is right to beat these dead beat NATO members vigorously about the head and shoulders. We should just walk away and let them fend for themselves, except for some of the old Eastern Bloc countries and Poland.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 10, 2018 01:50 PM (gEvQ8)

334 Oh she's been making some terrible faux pas. She :gasp: crossed her legs when sitting. That's some sort of royal no-no. I have no idea why. Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 10, 2018 06:48 PM (8O3HH) Did you not watch Princess Diaries? A princess may cross her ankles, but never her legs.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 10, 2018 01:53 PM (hMwEB)

335 Pfft. NATO.... Greater Eurasian Co-Prosperity Sphere, ftw. 'Murica nukes Western Europe. SMR nuke Mexico. Celestials nuke KEBAB. High-fives all around, and we all get on with our lives.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 10, 2018 01:53 PM (fA1SL)

336 Nood - trannies

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 10, 2018 01:54 PM (fA1SL)

337 ___OO
boots__shoes

O
boner causative

Posted by: andycanuck's shoes-boots venn diagram at July 10, 2018 01:54 PM (Evws/)

338 I checked the Bob Dylan website. There are no songs with either "shoe" or "boot" in the title. There are four songs that contain the word "shoe" and six with the word "boot". One song, "Fourth Time Around", mentions both.

Posted by: rickl at July 10, 2018 01:56 PM (sdi6R)

339 76 YO man spent 3 years in prison. Sad.

Posted by: golfman at July 10, 2018 01:58 PM (If3tB)

340 Am I right that Bill Clinton is the one who vastly increased the amount of Federal lands in the west? Posted by: TexasDan at July 10, 2018 05:57 I suspect what you are thinking of is Obozo declared a lot of Fed land as "national onuments", contrary of course to the legislation about such. That meant they couldn't be leased, drilled by private parties, contrary the past use of the land.

Posted by: Farmer at July 10, 2018 01:58 PM (fcxoA)

341 Has an interesting background tied to the Deep State as well if we are looking down rabbit holes. Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 10, 2018 06:26 PM (8SG/h) Is that why he was executed so quickly?

Posted by: clutch at July 10, 2018 02:00 PM (kiSdp)

342 12 Barry sure hated ranchers. Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 10, 2018 05:51 PM (ptqGC) --------------- Ranchers = Real Americans Of course Obama hated them.

Posted by: Blake - used elite salesman at July 10, 2018 02:00 PM (qC1Sy)

343 Alaska 62% Arizona 39% California 46% Colorado 36% Idaho 62% Montana 29% New Mexico 35% Nevada 85% Oregon 53% Washington 29% Wyoming 49% Overall the federal government owns thirty percent of the land in the United States, almost 650 million acres. That's bullcrap. Some for military bases, okay. But they own almost 90% of Nevada for crying out loud. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 10, 2018 06:02 Agreed, since we are over $22 Trillion in debt why not sell a lot of it off? Of course the bureaucratic process would consume a lot of the money but you would hope we come out ahead.

Posted by: Farmer at July 10, 2018 02:10 PM (fcxoA)

344 This was the right thing to do... good for Trump.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at July 10, 2018 02:16 PM (FTXAT)

345 He said if we were going to have another civil war it would start out west in a fight with the feds over land and water rights. He said the ranchers out there hated the feds.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 10, 2018 06:16 PM (mpXpK)


If you ever see "The Second Civil War"  maybe on a DVD or something.  Made by HBO back in the mid 90's.  Bits of it are on  YouTube.  Anyway its all about the west and how they fight, push back the Feds who are sending immigrants into their states.  Also the flood of Mexicans coming across the border.  Many of the western states join up to fight the Feds.

Posted by: Colin at July 10, 2018 02:30 PM (up//y)

346 This sure to get the Eco-Wackos,Tree Huggers, and Greens all upset they wanted this man sent to prison for daring to violet their sacred wildlife refugees and their Fragile Earth poppycock

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 10, 2018 02:34 PM (wGqjj)

347 No wonder I couldn't find Peggy or Kelly ...

Posted by: Dr_No at July 10, 2018 02:40 PM (imDUY)

348 The land involved had many uranium claims which Senator Reid, NV wanted to corner for his family and friends and in turn sell to Uranium One for his own profit!

Posted by: melski at July 10, 2018 02:55 PM (bD2nl)

349 If they set the fire on their property but did not intend on burning federal property there is no crime, since intent is necessary according to the Comey Standard.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 10, 2018 04:33 PM (U3vl9)

350 I   heard  one a  few  years  ago   about a   Farmer or  rancher who   was  objecting  to  Wildlife  Agents  on  his    land  he   was   told YOU  MAY OWN  IT  AND  PAY TAXES  ON  IT BUT WE  CONTROL IT  and  that   was    still under   Bill  Clinton who  wanted  to   give   Diplomatic  Power  to   the  Eco-Aactvists and   wanted  to use  our  Military   to   guard  the  Rain Forests back   when they   were   yammering   that the Rain Forests   were  being  Wiped  Out which  was a LIE 

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 11, 2018 06:10 AM (FLiOE)

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