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November 17, 2009

Trial Balloon: Hey, Let's Let the Bush Tax Cuts Expire, and Impose Higher Taxes on the Middle (and Lower?) Class
— Ace

The state is hungry. It needs feeding.

But the chairman of the presidents Council of Economic Advisers admitted that health reform and a growing economy isnt enough to bring down the deficit. She did mention one other place that revenue could come from: letting the Bush tax cuts expire.
[James Pethokoukis]: Since Obama already wants to get rid of the income and capital gains tax cuts for wealthier Americans that expire at the end of 2010, clearly what Romer is referring to is the rest of the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts. Letting all the 2001 cuts rate reductions, child tax credit marriage penalty relief expire would raise tax revenues by $2.5 trillion through 2019.

Oh my. If only we had had some kind of warning about this. If only we had a few uneducated, boorish, stupid, wolf-hunting/unlicensed-plumbing type people who were so comfortable in their Being There sort of retarded purity they could sounded alarm bells and asked the media to inquire into The Socialist's actual agenda and worldview.

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1 Letting all the 2001 cuts rate reductions, child tax credit marriage penalty relief expire would raise tax revenues by $2.5 trillion through 2019.

Not bloody likely.

Posted by: Arthur Laffer at November 17, 2009 12:05 PM (VpMnC)

Purity

There's that word again.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 17, 2009 12:05 PM (H7Rlw)

3 "would raise tax revenues by $2.5 trillion through 2019."

Yeah, except no it wouldn't. It would decrease revenues, just as the Bush cuts raised revenues because they led to a boom economy.

We're going to have even fewer obs, fewer business successes, and fatter pork slobs. That's good for Obama, but bad for us.

Posted by: The Nobel Peace Prize Committee (NPPC) at November 17, 2009 12:05 PM (3Okxb)

4
wow it seems like just a year ago the Democrats were telling us how Bush's policies squeezed the middle-class.

Obama has made it clear: He is the president to the lower-class and minorities, only.

President Populist.

Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 17, 2009 12:07 PM (3owkY)

5 Well it will only raise 2.5 trillion, if people still had jobs by the end of 2010!

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2009 12:07 PM (H7yeS)

woah woah woah no one's talking tax hikes just a couple revenue producing measures you wing nuts. get with the program.

Posted by: evil libertarian at November 17, 2009 12:09 PM (dmNcQ)

7 "Oh my. If only we had had some kind of warning about this. If only we had a few uneducated, boorish, stupid, wolf-hunting/unlicensed-plumbing type people who were so comfortable in their Being There sort of retarded purity they could sounded alarm bells and asked the media to inquire into The Socialist's actual agenda and worldview."

Yep too bad they didn't cowboy up.
If we had only known. . .

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at November 17, 2009 12:10 PM (0q2P7)

8 fewer 'jobs', I mean.

We all know this, though. Obama knows it too. He's trying to create as many government jobs as he can, because those buggers will vote democrat. If he has to delete 3 private jobs to create 1 government one, that's a bargain for him. And that's the main consequence of these taxes.

I admit, if the government is going to spend this much, it's only honorable that it taxes this much. If they had to tax for what they spent, every year, I do not think we would have this kind of leadership.

They should make everyone pay their share of government spending for that year, every year. I would prefer this were not some progressive graduation, but something more like a sales tax or a flat tax, but regardless, everyone should pay taxes, and the haul should equal the spending as closely as possible. If there are errors, that should be fixed quickly. If we did this, each dollar would double in value, people would have much better lives, and China would care what we thought.

Posted by: The Nobel Peace Prize Committee (NPPC) at November 17, 2009 12:10 PM (3Okxb)

9
I guaranfunckingtee, in less than a year, the Obama admin will propose building government-run casinos.

Casinos solve all our budget problems. Don't believe me? Just ask the Democrat-governors and legislatures who keep proposing them.

Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 17, 2009 12:12 PM (3owkY)

10 I hope some of the dumb-fuck 52%ers realize the error of their ways now.

Alas, many won't. The sweet scent of inevitable class war waxes in their nostrils.

In the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 17, 2009 12:12 PM (otlXg)

11 He is the president to the lower-class and minorities, only. Posted by: goforitbillbelichik

Except you can't be, as others have already inferred. If you try the populist schtick, you end up damaging the economy, killing jobs, and export corporate hq's abroad. Money and progress seek to be rewarded not punished.

The Left in the US are usually saved by voting public who awaken every 12 years to kick them out and let the economy recover a bit before going back to sleep.

We can recover from this if the GOP starts kicking ass and produces some leadership. Those things are dependent upon us kicking the GOP's collective ass first.

Posted by: Iskandar at November 17, 2009 12:12 PM (u1pln)

12 "would raise tax revenues by $2.5 trillion through 2019". WOW, that would almost, not quite, pay for Spooky O'Dumbo/Peeloshi's health care scam. Anyone still wondering where the Islamist in the white house got the millions for his campaign? We know the poor black welfare riders didn't cough it up unless welfare pays more than a bank president makes, that leaves the democrats owing someone big time. You are fixing to pay the bill.

Posted by: Scrapiron at November 17, 2009 12:13 PM (1kwr2)

13 #9

Fast Eddie of PA concurs!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 17, 2009 12:14 PM (otlXg)

14 I sure wish one of our betters (representatives, senators, whatever) would point out what other commenters have already noted: tax cuts = revenue for the govt. Kennedy did it, Reagan did it, Bush did it. (cmon Sarah, step up and say it!)

1. Cut taxes
2. Spur economy
3. Profit!

Why can't everyone get this? Rich people have money, make it possible for them to make more money. Collect taxes (albeit a lower rate) on the money spent. It works every time!

Unlike certain health care proposals.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at November 17, 2009 12:16 PM (UEEex)

9 ...building government-run casinos.

Oh yeah, look how well that's worked here in Canada! Between the Natives and the Gov't we have casinos on every street corner. Of course, casinos are a tax on the poor, Obama & the Dems know this right? Riiight??

Posted by: 5Cats at November 17, 2009 12:16 PM (O5yP8)

Where's Gabe?

Gimme my V thread tonight crackerman!

Else I shall be forced to show up on the SG:Suck thread next week despite not watching the show just to mock you all.

Posted by: Entropy at November 17, 2009 12:16 PM (cok/k)

17
If you try the populist schtick, you end up damaging the economy, killing jobs, and export corporate hq's abroad. Money and progress seek to be rewarded not punished.

Like I said...President Populist.

Obama is Chavez with a super-power country, not some shitty South American hell-hole.

Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 17, 2009 12:16 PM (3owkY)

Barak sez,"don't worry, no taxes raised for people making less than 250k, er 150 k,"

er well Taxes are Patriotic!

Posted by: willow Biden-ing at November 17, 2009 12:17 PM (GkYyh)

Barak sez,"don't worry, no taxes raised for people making less than 250k, er 150 k,"

er well Taxes are Patriotic!<%

Posted by: willow Biden-ing at November 17, 2009 12:18 PM (GkYyh)

20 I hope some of the dumb-fuck 52%ers realize the error of their ways now.

If my generation and those fucking baby boomers have any say, they'll want even more of this

Posted by: McCaskey Family at November 17, 2009 12:18 PM (cBeTr)

Letting all the 2001 cuts rate reductions, child tax credit marriage penalty relief expire would raise tax revenues by $2.5 trillion through 2019.

If that 2.5 is based on the laughable WH economic growth estimates (which, oh by the way, assumed that the tax cuts would remain--AHEM), then the true figure would be somewhere way the hell south of that. And let's remember that a better estimate of the cumulative deficit over the next decade is around 14 trillion, therefore this is just another empty measure to prove that he's not Bush (Hey! Let's bow to the shift manager at McDonald's next.).

Just when you think they've hit the limit of the ridiculous vs. insincere axes--they go exponential on you.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 17, 2009 12:18 PM (B+qrE)

Barak sez,"don't worry, no taxes raised for people making less than 250k, er 15

Posted by: willow Biden-ing at November 17, 2009 12:18 PM (GkYyh)

Barak sez,"don't worry, no taxes raised for people making less than 250k, er 150 k,"

&nbs

Posted by: willow Biden-ing at November 17, 2009 12:18 PM (GkYyh)

Barak sez,"don't worry, no taxes raised for

Posted by: willow Biden-ing at November 17, 2009 12:18 PM (GkYyh)

25

I keep finding my 1040 in the shitcan.

Who keeps doing that?

Posted by: Old Sailor at November 17, 2009 12:18 PM (/Ft4q)

26 Barak sez,"don't worry, no taxes raised for people making less than 250k, er 150 k,"

FIFH.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 17, 2009 12:19 PM (NtiET)

27 Well it took this economy to get Ohio to do the casino's so I would say your right
#9

Posted by: TEE866 at November 17, 2009 12:19 PM (TFoyC)

28 "...admitted that health reform and a growing economy isnt enough to bring down the deficit."

Yeah, for some reason a huge entitlement program combined with something that has not happened... just ISN'T ENOUGH to bring DOWN the deficit.

Yeah...I guess I'll ADMIT that, too.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 17, 2009 12:19 PM (DYYHe)

29 I'd like to give a shout out to my good buddy Hugo Chavez.

What's up Venezuela!

Are you fired up?
Are you ready to go?

Posted by: President Toonces at November 17, 2009 12:20 PM (H6Jyg)

30 wow my post did a stick. sorry room

Posted by: willow at November 17, 2009 12:21 PM (GkYyh)

31
health care reform is gonna save money just like the Stimulus create jobs

Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 17, 2009 12:21 PM (3owkY)

32 28...dang you Cpt Obvious...stole my shtick. Isn't it funny how its still worded like the Obamacare will bring it down some, just not enough?

Funny, gehy, not funny ha ha.

Posted by: The Hammer at November 17, 2009 12:22 PM (YBTwf)

33 Obama admin will propose building government-run casinos.

Oh, and I will have the utmost confidence that the house will run honest games.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2009 12:22 PM (ZO0u/)

34 Hell, I though everyone knew this was coming. Not only let the Bush tax cuts expire, but also raise taxes on just about everything else as well.

Beck is on there now with some douche talking about sorry Americans who live beyond their means. He is blaming the Average American for what the Democrap Party is doing with the bread and circuses paid out to the worthless "Peggy's" of the country. I had to turn it off.

The problem isn't with the average American, it is with the congress we currently have.

And it will not change until we restore the requirement that people pay into the system in order to make decisions about the system. IOW, pay to play.

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2009 12:22 PM (CDUiN)

35
Hey, the state prints all the money, so, really,uh, umm, it all, it all, it all belongs to the state. We just let you use it for awhile. And uh, right now, um, right now, we want it all back.

Posted by: barry obama at November 17, 2009 12:23 PM (Oxen1)

36
Unemployment is high?
Spending is out of control?
Massive budget deficit?
Businesses closing or leaving?

Let's build a casino!

Posted by: Democrats at November 17, 2009 12:23 PM (3owkY)

37 Tax Hikes? Never Heard of them

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 17, 2009 12:24 PM (wnU1W)

Of course, casinos are a tax on the poor, Obama & the Dems know this right?

And the stupid. (Another Dem constituency.)

Posted by: andycanuck at November 17, 2009 12:24 PM (2qU2d)

39 I love the money fires!

Posted by: gau at November 17, 2009 12:26 PM (n1uMU)

40
No, no, no. Casinos create jobs!

Casinos generate revenue that pay for schools and other govt services.

Why, casinos are so great, we should build one in every city in America.

Posted by: Democrats at November 17, 2009 12:27 PM (3owkY)

41 Monorail!

Posted by: can't let go of old memes at November 17, 2009 12:29 PM (PD1tk)

42 >>Of course, casinos are a tax on the poor,...<<

That's what the Earned Gambling Loss Tax Credit is for.

Sometimes I amaze myself. It's like magic.

Posted by: President Toonces at November 17, 2009 12:29 PM (H6Jyg)

43 Hey lets tax everything 125%! Then we put that 25% back into the economy! Its like fucking infinite tax revenues!

Posted by: gau at November 17, 2009 12:29 PM (n1uMU)

44 Like this is a shock to anyone with a pulse.

Posted by: Christopher taylor at November 17, 2009 12:30 PM (PQY7w)

45 Our debt situation is so dire now that tax increases are inevitable, no matter which party is in power. We have to focus on cutting spending (fat chance,) and fighting against new spending and entitlements.

Posted by: gp at November 17, 2009 12:31 PM (qtl7U)

46
And just like Senator Dick Turbin says, the Feds buying a boondoggle prison in Illinois for terrorists is an economic dream come true!

Posted by: Democrats at November 17, 2009 12:32 PM (3owkY)

47 Yeah, $2.5 trillion. The government also told me that the Stimulus would reduce unemployment.

Posted by: t-bird at November 17, 2009 12:32 PM (FcR7P)

48 Just you wait, bitches, Barry will be puttin' me out there too! Bwahahahaha!

Posted by: Value Added Tax at November 17, 2009 12:33 PM (Ko4Av)

49 Speaking of government created jobs...anyone hear Rush play Dick Turbin's comments on bringing Gitmo prisoners to IL being a job creator? It's sofa king ludicrous it's scary.

If prisons are such a job creator we should enact some laws to create more law breakers and thus the need for more prisons. Something like, buy health insurance or go to jail, that would really create a need and jobs jobs jobs.

These guys are sofa king out of touch it boggles the mind.

Posted by: The Hammer at November 17, 2009 12:34 PM (YBTwf)

Yeah, for some reason a huge entitlement program combined with something that has not happened... just ISN'T ENOUGH to bring DOWN the deficit.

Yeah...I guess I'll ADMIT that, too.

Remember Bush's "recession"? Well now we have Obama's "recovery."

Hahahahaha!!!!!! WIN!

Posted by: Max Power at November 17, 2009 12:34 PM (q177U)

51 Our debt situation is so dire now that tax increases are inevitable, no matter which party is in power.

I think people would pay higher taxes to pay down the debt accompanied, as you say, by government cutting spending to the bone. Pretty much the exact opposite of what is happening right now. People will be paying a crushing tax burden in order to enrich Democrat party constituents. We will see how much of that Americans are willing to take.

Posted by: gau at November 17, 2009 12:35 PM (n1uMU)

As soon as any snowbilly took a minute to point out the inevitability of this, the media would rush to ignore the fact in front of them. But they'll pay 11 reporters to fact-check the snowbillies book.

This disaster in the making lies front and center at the feet of the media. They do their job half the time and we all know which half.

Posted by: spongeworthy at November 17, 2009 12:35 PM (rplL3)

Hey lets tax everything 125%! Then we put that 25% back into the economy! Its like fucking infinite tax revenues!

ROLFL

Posted by: Max Power at November 17, 2009 12:36 PM (q177U)

54 Value Added Tax

Yea, what "Value" is added to the products this is added too? Just asking.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2009 12:36 PM (H7yeS)

55 The state is hungry.

The state has diabetes. We wired it's mouth shut but it just melted candy bars on the stove and drank them with a straw. Soon it will fall into a coma. You can be the enabler, call 911, and try to help it, but I'd rather just let it expire.

Tough love.

Posted by: John Galt at November 17, 2009 12:37 PM (F/4zf)

56 they already floated out the VAT a few months ago

Posted by: fartbubble at November 17, 2009 12:38 PM (cBeTr)

57 Oh my. If only we had had some kind of warning about this. If only we had a few uneducated, boorish, stupid, wolf-hunting/unlicensed-plumbing type people who were so comfortable in their Being There sort of retarded purity they could sounded alarm bells and asked the media to inquire into The Socialist's actual agenda and worldview. Oh! Hey! Didja see the pictures of Sarah Palin in a bikini holding that assault rifle?!?! An did you hear her talk!?! Whew! What an accent! What an uncouth hick! Ha ha ha! This is going above the fold! Whoops. Sorry to interrupt, Ace. Were you saying something? I'm not really following you here.

Posted by: The MSM at November 17, 2009 12:38 PM (4iIhs)

58 Beck is on there now with some douche talking about sorry Americans who live beyond their means. He is blaming the Average American for what the Democrap Party is doing with the bread and circuses paid out to the worthless "Peggy's" of the country. I had to turn it off.

The problem isn't with the average American, it is with the congress we currently have.

Meh. Yes, Congress sucks and they certainly enabled people to live way beyond their means for some time. So, I don't want to downgrade the importance of that point.

But there's still a matter of personal responsibility that a lot of people overlook. Maybe if I didn't have to watch these lowlifes that guy is talking about, every single freaking day, mooching off others and expecting a hand out, I'd agree with you 100%. But it's the desire of a lot of people (and a lot of people I personally know) in this country right now to get a free lunch on everything. Way too many people think they should be able to spend their money on all their various wants and that someone else should have to pick up the tab on their needs; because it's "their right" to a decent wage and housing and food, etc.

Posted by: Mandy P. at November 17, 2009 12:38 PM (MK6Kx)

59 well union guards & layndrey at a prison . mean union jobs! for Illinois,( pay to play baby!)

Posted by: willow at November 17, 2009 12:39 PM (GkYyh)

60 Speaking of government created jobs...anyone hear Rush play Dick Turbin's comments on bringing Gitmo prisoners to IL being a job creator? It's sofa king ludicrous it's scary.

Yeah, Rush said we need to round up all the terrorists in the world and put them in prison to create jobs. It was pretty funny.

Posted by: gau at November 17, 2009 12:39 PM (n1uMU)

61
Hey, I know!

Let's sell Carbon Credits to the people!

Posted by: Democrats at November 17, 2009 12:40 PM (3owkY)

62 I'm down with making the senator's wives work the state run brothels.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 17, 2009 12:40 PM (dQdrY)

63 In the end, there will be only chaos.

IT will be like JIM MORRISON PREDICTED!

Blood in the streets up to my ankles. And KNEES!

And when all ELSE FAILS, we can WHIP the horse's EYES. And make them sleep. And cry.

With BLOOD. in the STREET.

Posted by: krakatoaPLOVER at November 17, 2009 12:40 PM (hQbvm)

64 This is the Beck that I fell in love with. Between '06-'08 while he was talking about the economy falling apart. Beck knows this by heart. He can repeat it in his sleep.

Posted by: vai2112 at November 17, 2009 12:41 PM (pkOAj)

65
One of these days we need to have a Plover-off. Sorta like a dance-off.

Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 17, 2009 12:41 PM (3owkY)

Prison guards = union, Laundry workers and culinary = union, in Illinois,

pay to play

Posted by: willow at November 17, 2009 12:41 PM (GkYyh)

67 wth, is wrong with my posting and seeing posts. i give up. bbl if i can fix it

Posted by: willow at November 17, 2009 12:44 PM (GkYyh)

68 It's so simple: Tax the lawyers.

Less lawyering means more economic activity.

It is the only tax increase for which the peak of the Laffer curve is up around a tax of 99.44%

Posted by: AmishDude at November 17, 2009 12:44 PM (T0NGe)

69
Yes, I think Durbin said it would create jobs with full benefit packages, which is code for union jobs.

Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 17, 2009 12:44 PM (3owkY)

70 #36 - Any country that depends on casinos to fund its existence is a 3rd Worlder.....Let's bring government run casinos to every frickin' city and let's bring back Idi Amin - clone his ass - ( get some of his DNA from bones or shit in France/Afirca) to be the Master of Ceremonies at ALL the gub'ment run casinos. Then lets hire the gals from Motown who were lining up to get 'dem some of "Obama's stash" to work as hostesses. And Michelle can stand in front of an Amana Freezer that will be raffled off every day to whatever schlep tells the worst story of how his/her life was ruined in the Bush recession of 2010.

Posted by: Junkman at November 17, 2009 12:44 PM (F9R0K)

71 Way too many people think they should be able to spend their money on all their various wants and that someone else should have to pick up the tab on their needs...

An old checker use to say "there are the things I need, and the things I want...and the things I need, will simply have to wait" George Miles RIP

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2009 12:45 PM (2X4q0)

I'm down with making the senator's wives work the state run brothels.

Have you seen some of them. O.K. Cindy McCain...yea, o.k. But, what would you pay to have sex with Theresa Heinz Kerry?

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 17, 2009 12:46 PM (V9SYy)

73 Are the economists of the Administration that stupid or that divorced from reality?

Posted by: ed at November 17, 2009 12:46 PM (Urhve)

74 These guys are sofa king out of touch it boggles the mind.

Posted by: The Hammer at November 17, 2009 05:34 PM (YBTwf)

LOL. I had to read that 3 times before I got it. I'm stealing it. And if you don't like it that's toofa king bad.

Posted by: LGoPs at November 17, 2009 12:47 PM (v/rEn)

75 Wow willow your shit is all jacked, or your BAC is hanging out around %1.4.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 17, 2009 12:47 PM (SVIJA)

76 We can recover from this if the GOP starts kicking ass and produces some leadership.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Ow. Ow. My tummy hurts now.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2009 12:48 PM (t3Mi3)

I'm down with making the senator's wives work the state run brothels.

Or, the ever lovely Mrs. Chuckie Schummer - picture is here: http://tinyurl.com/yfoxoby

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 17, 2009 12:50 PM (V9SYy)

Yes, I think Durbin said it would create jobs with full benefit packages, which is code for union jobs.

In the great state of illinois - all prison guards belong to a union. And you think Dickless Turbin would be interested in creating any other type of job.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 17, 2009 12:51 PM (V9SYy)

But, what would you pay to have sex with Theresa Heinz Kerry?

In Soviet Russia, Theresa Heinz Kerry pay you!

What? No joke.

Posted by: Entropy at November 17, 2009 12:51 PM (cok/k)

80
The GOP has a person out there right now, showing leadership, explaining policy, making the case for conservatism.

And how does most of the GOP react?

Half of them dismiss her, and the other half wring their hands, worrying about bad press.

Posted by: goforitbillbelichik at November 17, 2009 12:52 PM (3owkY)

Have you seen some of them. O.K. Cindy McCain...yea, o.k. But, what would you pay to have sex with Theresa Heinz Kerry?

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 17, 2009 05:46 PM (V9SYy)

Just charge what they are worth. Yeah, some will only find a place in a turkish sailor's brothel, but that does not concern me. Every little bit helps.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 17, 2009 12:53 PM (dQdrY)

82 ♬ And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin ♬

Posted by: obscure enough? at November 17, 2009 12:53 PM (PD1tk)

Well, I'd pay to have sex with Dennis Kucinich's wife.

I'd probably do Michelle, but I ain't paying for it.

Posted by: Entropy at November 17, 2009 12:53 PM (cok/k)

84 We can recover from this if the GOP ~~starts kicking~~ stops sucking ass and produces some leadership. FTFY

Posted by: Che Pizza at November 17, 2009 12:54 PM (4iIhs)

I'm down with making the senator's wives work the state run brothels.

And finally, Mrs. Richard Durbin (you have to scroll down a little on the link but she is there). http://tinyurl.com/yfpp6x4

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 17, 2009 12:57 PM (V9SYy)

86
Is V on tonight? Kick ass.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 17, 2009 12:58 PM (Haq+B)

87 Maybe it was just his imagination, but whenever he'd pull up that plate, he'd hear a... sucking sound. It started out small, with the first 65 grand. And then it got bigger. Pretty soon it was the only thing he heard. Pretty soon, all he could think about was feeding the hole. He didn't think about when he was a kid. He didn't think about the guys who he started who were still on the up-and-up. He didn't think about the dreams he had with Natalie. He didn't think about those Feds lying there. Most of all, he didn't think about Mona Demarkov, because the way he saw it, she was done. Just another 65 grand for the hole. He fed the hole and he made the hole happy. It was the only thing he knew how to make happy.

Posted by: railwriter at November 17, 2009 12:58 PM (daRzV)

88 Can you imagine having to put the wood to some of those things? No wonder they are bitter.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 17, 2009 12:59 PM (dQdrY)

89
Top Ten Cheney Slogans for 2012

10. "Yeah, I'm a compassionate conservative. I let you live, didn't I?"

9. "The Secret Service's new job? Protecting other world leaders from me."

8. "I'll crush all enemies foreign & domestic. Then I'll figure out a goal for Week Two."

7. "I shot a guy in the face and he apologized to me."

6. "Democrats will need Universal Health Care after I'm through with them."

5. "Want to see world leaders bowing? Oh, they'll bow alright."

4. "Do what I say or I'll have my daughter kick your $*%."

3. "On my World Apology Tour, I won't be the one apologizing."

2. "I never had a heart attack. I just stopped it a few times to show it who was boss."

1. "Vote for me. Or not. Like I give a *!#& what you do."

via Exurban League

Posted by: bulwark at November 17, 2009 01:01 PM (jvrmc)

90

Barry is Chauncey Gardiner.

Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at November 17, 2009 01:01 PM (dh7zu)

91 Feed the hole, babies. Get a raise, trim your expenses by paying off the Visa balance because it's got a higher interest rate than your puny "investment strategy," take the bus, treat the missus to a Christmas smile instead of a ring, darn your socks, buy the cheap cuts and crock-'em, wipe your ass a little more frugally, use less toothpaste, drink Val-U-Rite. Feed the hole. Feed the hole.

Posted by: railwriter at November 17, 2009 01:01 PM (daRzV)

Can you imagine having to put the wood to some of those things? No wonder they are bitter.

Hey, thank me. The joke could of been having the Senators work the brothel and you would of had a string of unflattering (as if there are anyother kind) pcitures of Barbara Mulkowski.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 17, 2009 01:02 PM (V9SYy)

93 I saw this coming from miles away. "We're not imposing a new tax; we're just the old tax cuts expire! So Obama isn't really increasing taxes at all!"

Horseshit. It goes back to my "watch what they do, not what they say" admonition. It's a tax hike that dare not speak its name.

Posted by: Monty at November 17, 2009 01:04 PM (L12sc)

94 In the desert
I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
Who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said: "Is it good, friend?"
"It is bitter-bitter," he answered;
"But I like it
Because it is bitter,
And because it is my heart."
- Hart Crane

Posted by: Monty at November 17, 2009 01:05 PM (L12sc)

95 I miss W.

Posted by: Angus Dei at November 17, 2009 01:06 PM (WAI6U)

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Posted by: Iamnotanalcholic at November 17, 2009 01:06 PM (KGrpW)

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Posted by: Sheryl Crow at November 17, 2009 01:07 PM (IuJFC)

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Posted by: TEE866 at November 17, 2009 01:08 PM (TFoyC)

Okay, Plan B. Put the senator's daughters in state run whorehouses.

My allusion to Caligula didn't fly, so I'll update the suggestion.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 17, 2009 01:08 PM (dQdrY)

100

96 / Circa:

The policies that create new long-term jobs are an anathema to the left.

They will never do them. That is not what they do.

Posted by: Huckleberry at November 17, 2009 01:09 PM (s2bW4)

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Posted by: willow at November 17, 2009 01:10 PM (GkYyh)

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Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2009 01:11 PM (1O93r)

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obama is black?

why didnt someone tell me?

Posted by: Helen Keller at November 17, 2009 01:12 PM (b8Ow5)

104 73 Are the economists of the Administration that stupid or that divorced from reality?

Posted by: ed at November 17, 2009 05:46 PM (Urhve)

yes

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Things, Some Stuff, and Other Things at November 17, 2009 01:12 PM (erIg9)

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obama is black?

why didnt someone tell me?

Posted by: Helen Keller

We yelled it as loud as we could.

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 17, 2009 01:13 PM (1O93r)

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Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at November 17, 2009 01:13 PM (KGrpW)

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The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy .

Posted by: Bubba Thudd at November 17, 2009 01:15 PM (uvdXT)

108 Letting previously reduced tax cuts expire? WTF? Hell no. That has been the tax rates for many, many years. If they are raised, then it's a tax increase. I'm not buying a tax increase just because they can lay blame on Bush. Lay blame, hell, I say lets start the process for Bush sainthood. After all he gave us a tax cut. All Barry'0 wants to do is raise our taxes. How about a simple message. Bush lowered YOUR taxes and Barry wants to raise them, and who's delivering on Hope and Change?

Posted by: Mephitis at November 17, 2009 01:18 PM (ehXLT)

109 Anyone care to predict the unemployment rate after this comes to pass? Other than much higher than it is now, that is.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 17, 2009 01:19 PM (1hM1d)

110 103

Okay, Plan B. Put the senator's daughters in state run whorehouses.

My allusion to Caligula didn't fly, so I'll update the suggestion.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 17, 2009 06:08 PM (dQdrY)

Go tell a horse buddy!

Posted by: Claudius Germanicus in San Diego at November 17, 2009 01:20 PM (H7Rlw)

111

"Folks that make less than $250,000 will not have thier taxes raised."

You lie!

Posted by: Joe W at November 17, 2009 01:22 PM (tW88P)

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Posted by: Santa "fuckn'" Claus at November 17, 2009 01:23 PM (KGrpW)

113 All you greedy wingers need to learn to give back. I'm sick of being robbed by you selfish taxpayers.

HOW DARE YOU REFUSE TO CONTRIBUTE YOUR FAIR SHARE!

I have to feed my brood. How else am I going to make ends meet without a job? Do you assholes really expect me to work? Being a full time mom is difficult enough with a half dozen kid and no husband. Maybe you jerks should think of that!

Now which one of you wants to make me another check?

/extreme sarc, but unfortunately the actual mentality of many inner city and back woods 'mothers' on the taxpayer teat.

Posted by: Welfare Mom at November 17, 2009 01:26 PM (ijjAe)

114

I'd vote for a conservative horse at this point.

One tap for yay, and two for neighaaaay.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 17, 2009 01:27 PM (dQdrY)

115 But, what would you pay to have sex with Theresa Heinz Kerry?

Look, it's a state run brothel. WTH did you expect? You wanted us to run your health care like the DMV and you got it. Now we're running the casinos and whorehouses.

Oh, and what's with this would shit? There is no subjunctive mood lighting this district.

You will pay what we tell you to have sex with whatever raddled old whore we assign you or pay a fine or go to jail or both.

No free riders!

Posted by: Totalitarian Statists at November 17, 2009 01:39 PM (aVzyR)

116 You will pay what we tell you to have sex with whatever raddled old whore we assign you or pay a fine or go to jail or both.

And they'll tax masturbation to pay for it.

Posted by: nickless at November 17, 2009 01:42 PM (MMC8r)

117 120 You will pay what we tell you to have sex with whatever raddled old whore we assign you or pay a fine or go to jail or both.

And they'll tax masturbation to pay for it.

Posted by: nickless at November 17, 2009 06:42 PM (MMC8r)

srsly? damn.

Posted by: Kerry Prejean at November 17, 2009 01:55 PM (erIg9)

118

And finally, Mrs. Richard Durbin (you have to scroll down a little on the link but she is there). www.tinyurl.com/yfpp6x4

Justn add glasses and you have ...Velma. From Scooby Doo.

Posted by: Gunslinger at November 17, 2009 01:57 PM (Zi+FQ)

119 And they'll tax masturbation to pay for it.

Nope. That's missing out on a whole lot of revenue.

Just make it a requirement that anybody engaging in the activity get certified and licensed. Oh, and renew the license yearly, after paying for a requisite amount of CE course credits.

Of course you can save yourself all of this hassle so long as you can prove to the IRS that you've spent a mandatory minimum in the state run brothels in lieu of "self help".

Oh, and since we can fit this under the rubric of health care we will subsidize this need to the tune of $365 per year per person. Which will make you a government health care worker, so, don't forget to fork over $400 to the SEIU for your dues.

Posted by: Totalitarian Statists at November 17, 2009 01:59 PM (aVzyR)

120 As posters have noted earlier, after 8 years it's ingrained- it won't fly that it's just an expiration the rubes should have seen coming. The Deathwish Democrats- so stupid even the RNC can win big.

Posted by: jjshaka at November 17, 2009 02:00 PM (VetfL)

121

And they'll tax masturbation to pay for it.

Hey! Hey! Hey! Now you're hittin' me where it hurts!

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2009 02:02 PM (wAQA5)

122

Our debt situation is so dire now that tax increases are inevitable, no matter which party is in power.

This is the one argument I'm sick of hearing. TAX increases are not necessary, what is necessary is REVENUE increasing to meet the debt. Sadly, no one in government seems to understand that 10% of $1B is more than 20% of $300M. They keep thinking they can raise the tax rate and people won't respond.

Posted by: Darury at November 17, 2009 02:11 PM (4OXBg)

123 Peters (D) and Dodd (D) seek to increase power of Fed central bank.

Great idea! What could go wrong?

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 17, 2009 02:12 PM (o+Cwv)

124 Oh, and since we can fit this under the rubric of health care we will subsidize this need to the tune of $365 per year per person. Which will make you a government health care worker, so, don't forget to fork over $400 to the SEIU for your dues.

Less than $500 per year?

That's outrageous!

I'm calling a stike!

All together now!

We're out of the office and onto our feet
We're off of our asses and out in the street
So put on the heat, out in the street,
Cuz Union meat can never be beat!

As long as it takes.

Posted by: Andy Stern at November 17, 2009 02:13 PM (aVzyR)

125 Obama is so stupid. Every Democrat knows that the FIRST thing you do is break your tax cut pledge.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 17, 2009 02:19 PM (T0NGe)

126 I hate hearing them incorrectly described as "tax cuts." They were NOT tax cuts, they were an adjustment to taxation rates. There is no "ideal" level of taxation, just as there is no "ideal" climate for the Earth, regardless of what the environmentalists would have you believe, where any change from an arbitrary point is greeted with howls of dismay and fear.

Posted by: Flubber at November 17, 2009 02:22 PM (VL5if)

127

They aren't tax increases, they're revenue-producing measures.

You wingnuts.

Posted by: Bobby Gibbs at November 17, 2009 03:05 PM (fstYb)

128 The state is hungry. It needs feeding.

We're feeling a bit peckish ourselves.

Posted by: angry economic gods living in this volcano at November 17, 2009 03:13 PM (PD1tk)

129 The budget solution is obvious: Jizya

Posted by: dhimicrat at November 17, 2009 03:20 PM (f/2/5)

130

If only we had a few uneducated, boorish, stupid, wolf-hunting/unlicensed-plumbing type people who were so comfortable in their Being There sort of retarded purity they could sounded alarm bells and asked the media to inquire into The Socialist's actual agenda and worldview.

Ace, this sentence is pure gold!

Posted by: runningrn at November 17, 2009 03:26 PM (qP2BK)

131

obama is black?

why didnt someone tell me?

Posted by: Helen Keller

We yelled it as loud as we could

Blue Hen, that was teh funny! I lol'd!

Posted by: runningrn at November 17, 2009 03:27 PM (qP2BK)

132

And finally, Mrs. Richard Durbin...

I see a pattern here, and with many of Obama's appointees, too. They have self-image issues they are trying to overcome by controlling and shaking-down beautiful people like me. The good news is that their self-image is quite healthily realistic. Oops, fuck - that's the bad news, too!

(Wait, this isn't one of them "telescreen" things is it?)

Posted by: sherlock at November 17, 2009 03:32 PM (ktKOD)

133

I was trying to type "self" followed by "-image" in two places in my comment above, but instead got a BF underline thingy.

Shit, maybe this is a telescreen?

Posted by: sherlock at November 17, 2009 03:35 PM (ktKOD)

134

AHA! If you type a "-" followed by "image" you get ____. You know what that means don't you!!?

Yeah, a telescreen.

Posted by: sherlock at November 17, 2009 03:37 PM (ktKOD)

135

wipe your ass a little more frugally

Told ya! I frickin' told ya! But did anyone listen to me? Noooooo!

I'm way ahead of you guys. Now, where'd that rabbit go?

Posted by: environmentally conscious Kodiak bear at November 17, 2009 03:43 PM (hoowK)

136 ^{130
I hate hearing them incorrectly described as "tax cuts." They were NOT
tax cuts, they were an adjustment to taxation rates. There is no
"ideal" level of taxation, just as there is no "ideal" climate for the
Earth, regardless of what the environmentalists would have you believe,
where any change from an arbitrary point is greeted with howls of
dismay and fear.} ^{Posted by: Flubber}

Not even an adjustment in the tax rates, just the withholding rates. Short term, people got a little extra in their paychecks, long term, they get screwed 4/15/10. Of course it was Poon or someone else said that these were indeed tax cuts. So did the CNN scrunt who was trying to sell the Bambi/Botox stimulus package.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 17, 2009 03:50 PM (Vol3D)

137 To be fair, congreSS should not be exempt. Botox and astroglide should also be part of the new Sex Tax.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 17, 2009 04:05 PM (dQdrY)

138

Bow down before the One you serve, you're gonna get what you deserve...

Posted by: Mikey NTH at November 17, 2009 04:07 PM (TUWci)

139

Chung Sun! you get back to work! not make small talk wif round eye!

Posted by: Wai Chang at November 17, 2009 04:16 PM (b8Ow5)

140

And finally, Mrs. Richard Durbin

She looks like a fuckin' Chipmunk storing walnuts for winter.

Check the bitch for a tail.

Posted by: hutch1200 at November 17, 2009 04:22 PM (FHf98)

141

Trial Balloon?

Can we use them for target practice?

Posted by: hutch1200 at November 17, 2009 04:23 PM (FHf98)

142 the gorvernment ought to increase the salary of the work and increase the tax of the boss.

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Posted by: jason at November 17, 2009 04:45 PM (fRLM+)

144 Screw you guys! I have a signed and notarized letter from honest cloud promising me he/she/it will pay any and all tax increases I face for the next four years.

Posted by: Jar Jar at November 17, 2009 05:26 PM (YSHv8)

145 Those fucking laptop batteries have got this shit figured out! You can tax em' laptop, when barry's done, all the jobs will be in that shithole you call a country. Maybe our first pacific president could move over. Put that dickhead to work skinning cats, he's got the girly hands for it.

Posted by: Lopan at November 17, 2009 09:55 PM (Ddmk1)

146 Nancy Pelosi has made it very clear that this is not a tax increase. It is merely not renewing a previous tax cut. Sure, you'll be paying more in taxes, but not because of a tax increase.

I wish you people would get your facts straight.

Posted by: Steve L. at November 18, 2009 03:42 AM (Gkhxf)

147 Mmmm mmmm mmmm

Barack Hussein Obama

Said he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class
Whoever believed that had their head up their ----

Heh, we're school kids we shouldn't be using that kind of language!

Posted by: NJ school kids at November 18, 2009 04:02 AM (ROSu7)

148

"Letting all the 2001 cuts rate reductions, child tax credit marriage penalty relief expire would raise tax revenues by $2.5 trillion through 2019."

If all the people who were working in 2001 still had jobs, that statement would have a chance of being true. Reality based life forms have noticed that the economy and employment have taken a hit over the past few years. I'm going to ignore the "Bush's fault/Democratic Congress" blame game, because it doesn't matter.

Letting these cuts expire will NOT raise the promised revenue. Government spending must be reduced. Since we know that cannot be allowed, we are doomed.

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