July 29, 2008

Top Al Qaeda Bio/Chem Weapons Expert Joins Sam's Club and Also Flesh-Decomposing Bacteria's Club, But Mostly Flesh-Decomposing Bacteria's Club
— Ace

He gets a special discount on coffin vermin.

Updating, or perhaps repeating, Dave in Texas' post from a couple of days ago. I saw on Hot Air the military first thought they had got this guy, then retracted that and said they hadn't; seems like they've now confirmed it.

One of al Qaeda's top chemical and biological weapons experts was killed in an air strike by a CIA pilotless drone in a remote Pakistani border region, senior Pakistani intelligence officials told CBS News Tuesday morning.

Intelligence officials investigating the early Monday missile attack confirmed that Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Umar, also known as Abu Khabab al-Masri was one of six men killed and his remains had been positively identified.

"We now have a positive ID on the body. I can confirm to you that Al-Masri has been killed," a Pakistani intelligence official told CBS News on the condition of anonymity. Earlier reports claimed that the six men killed included three Arabs, while the other three were believed to be Afghans or Pakistanis.

However, the intelligence official who spoke to CBS Tuesday said all six men were Arabs. Those killed also included Sheikh Ibrahim, a mid ranking al Qaeda operative believed to be either Egyptian or Jordanian. The other four victims were described as ordinary foot soldiers. The intelligence official did not provide the full names nor the citizenship of the four lower ranking militants.

Al-Masri, an Egyptian national, became notorious for developing chemical and biological weapons for al Qaeda. He was known to have used a variety of animals, including dogs, cats and frogs in brutal experiments which often left the animals dead.

I always find the inclusion of that last detail strange. I love dogs and like (some) cats, but it's always weird to me the media (correctly!) estimates that the public will be more outraged he killed dogs than people.

How fucked up is that? Love animals? Fine. Ambivalent on people? Not fine.

Thanks to EricJ.

Posted by: Ace at 10:56 AM | Comments (36)
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1 has this "top expert" actually ever designed anything that worked ?

Posted by: John Ryan at July 29, 2008 11:01 AM (TcoRJ)

2 Miss Ryan,

Should we have let him keep trying?

Posted by: eman at July 29, 2008 11:11 AM (bXWSG)

3 'Khabab' is a nice name for someone who just got broiled to a crisp.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at July 29, 2008 11:13 AM (uZ8vZ)


Sam's Club? That capitalist exploiting shit deserved to die.

Hi, John.[waves] See you at the Giants' opening game again, right? I've got tickets to daddy's private booth, again.

Posted by: bill ayers at July 29, 2008 11:44 AM (+gaZJ)

5 I find it odd that frogs were included in the list of cute, cuddly animals he tested on.  And did the media really feel the need to elaborate that the experimental subjects of BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS TESTING were killed by the experiments, or were they just filling page space?  Are there folks out there that, upon hearing someone was used as a test subject for biological weapons testing, assumes the subject is just fine unless told otherwise?

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at July 29, 2008 12:23 PM (ltwze)

6 I am ambivalent about people, but I don't want any innocents to die.  I hope that's okay.

Posted by: cranky-d at July 29, 2008 02:00 PM (kt4mn)

7 We seem to be bagging a lot of HVTs over the border in Pakistan. For all the talk about how the Pak Army and Intelligence are heavily infiltrated by the bad guys, we must be getting lots of tips from somebody.

Posted by: Arthur at July 29, 2008 02:08 PM (6YRem)


Actually, frogs are used in testing certain biological agents because they have the ability to pass said agents through their skins. Inhalation and ingestion are the primary routes of contamination for conventional poisons; but developing nasty shit that could permeate the human dermal layer would certainly be a coup for the more radical followers of The Religion of Peace, as it would bypass respiratory protection like respirators and gasmasks...

Great observation, Dr. Weevil!


Posted by: Neffi at July 29, 2008 02:39 PM (+Q0+O)

9 Well, if the PETA crowd won't go along with the war on whatever-we're-calling-it-this-month, so lets highlight something they can get behind. "Evil Al Qaeda scientist kills people and harmless puppies." PETA hates puppies getting killed, ergo, they are now on the right side of this issue.

Posted by: shibumi at July 29, 2008 03:27 PM (tZB/c)

10 I always find the inclusion of that last detail strange.

I don't think it's so strange.  I don't think it's about the relative value of human versus animal lives.

I think it's included for the creepiness factor; it conjures up images of a mad scientist performing gruesome experiments in his spooky lair.

Posted by: sandy burger at July 29, 2008 03:29 PM (VC56G)


I don't find the last detail strange at all.  Vick was castigated by the media and public for his dog fighting.  He's now in jail for years.  Leonard Little kills a person while driving drunk and gets 90 days.  And more importantly, not a column inch was dedicated to villifying Little.

What's this mean?  For many people, dogs > people.

Posted by: Blogluddite at July 29, 2008 03:44 PM (fC2pg)

12 has this "top expert" actually ever designed anything that worked ?

Apparently, yes: He was known to have used a variety of animals, including dogs, cats and frogs in brutal experiments which often left the animals dead.

Presuming, of course, that death was the desired result.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 29, 2008 03:46 PM (1hM1d)

13 I apologize for killing the dogs you infidels love so much. The cats? not so much. I realize, too late, that I should have had a subject like John Ryan to work on. Being a good troll, he's pretty much invulnerable to anything I could throw at him. But maybe I could have caused an upset stomache or two.

Posted by: Abu Khabab al-Masri at July 29, 2008 03:50 PM (1hM1d)

14 I always find the inclusion of the last detail strange.

It was the use of frogs that did it for me.

Posted by: Jim Henson's Ghost at July 29, 2008 03:50 PM (2P9jn)

15 PETA hates puppies getting killed, ergo, they are now on the right side of this issue.

Unless they're Alaskan Malamute puppies. Since Alaska is largely Republican it only follows that their dogs are eeeevil Rethuglican mushers as well.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2008 04:22 PM (Ds4I5)

16 Mr. al-Masri,

Call us, we think we can get you a better deal than your current retirement plan is offering.

Posted by: MetLife at July 29, 2008 04:41 PM (SLqkZ)

17 Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Umar,
also known as Abu Khabab al-Masri
Oh. That guy.

Posted by: bgates at July 29, 2008 05:03 PM (RzFhF)

18 car-b-cue in Gaza by IDF....
smoldering khabab by remote drone in Pakistan...

that's good cooking

Posted by: jbinnout at July 29, 2008 05:27 PM (fN3WP)

19 I believe he was working on a monkey with four asses.

Posted by: Eric J at July 29, 2008 06:14 PM (Sg4VS)

20 a CIA pilotless drone Valerie Plane? no, they wouldn't call it that.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at July 29, 2008 06:16 PM (TPRbZ)

21 There was a guy who was head of arson investigations in NYC for 20 years or so. He spotted many arsons in advance, In one case, the perps bought some fancy-breed horses and insured them heavily; also an equal number of crowbaits. They substituted the crowbaits for the high-breed horses in the stable, then doused the whole place with kerosene - even drenching the horses themselves. But the investigator busted them at the last moment. He said this case roused more public anger than any other he'd handled - even more than fires set in apartment buildings full of children. There is something about deliberate cruelty to animals that pushes people's buttons.

Posted by: Rich Rostrom at July 29, 2008 07:21 PM (AaIjD)

22 " ... in brutal experiments which often left the animals dead."

There are so many sad levels of crazy ... er, "nuance" ... in that trailing statement I wouldn't know where to begin. 

I can see next week's update:

A spokesman, who declined to be identified, said it is not true all animals were left dead. 

"A few experienced only mild inconvenience," he said.  "But we have decided to abide by international conventions and will use only infidels in the future."

Posted by: prairiemain at July 29, 2008 08:16 PM (oPAYR)

23 I was reading the Economists special report on AQ, and they mentioned this guy. Kind of got a smile knowing he was already dead by our hands.

Posted by: Aaron at July 30, 2008 06:02 AM (4xIXK)


it's always weird to me the media (correctly!) estimates that the public will be more outraged he killed dogs than people.

Why is that weird? The animals didn't do anything to make him hate them. We elected George W. Bush.

Am I channeling Typical Moonbat?

Posted by: Original Roy at July 30, 2008 07:12 AM (vtR2g)

25 " There is something about deliberate cruelty to animals that pushes people's buttons."

Good.  I like us better this way.

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