September 02, 2008
— Slublog So far, the strategy seems to be: belittle Sarah Palin's accomplishments. Right. Let me know how that works out for you,
OBAMA: Well, you know, my understanding is, is that Governor Palin's town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We have got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month.I do love the insinuation that running for president somehow qualifies him to be president. If that's the case, then he's perhaps the best-qualified candidate ever, because running for president is basically all he's done since entering national politics.So, I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute, I think, has been made clear over the last couple of years. And, certainly, in terms of the legislation that I passed just dealing with this issue post-Katrina of how we handle emergency management, the fact that many of my recommendations were adopted and are being put in place as we speak, I think, indicates the degree to which we can provide the kinds of support and good service that the American people expect.
It's really quite revealing that Obama is forced to ignore the office Palin currently holds in order to make the case he's more experienced.
(Thanks to Eukardios in the comments for suggesting the change in Obama's title.)
Update - Oh, goody. The Obama campaign has decided another excellent line of attack will be to paint her as a Nazi sympathizer for wearing a Buchanan button once. She wore the button because Buchanan was visiting her town, and she was the mayor. Palin was a Forbes supporter. They've gone barking mad.
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Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 06:07 AM (evdj2)
Obama's campaign has made record expenditures with little to show for the money.
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Obama - Four More Years
and then He'll Be Ready.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 02, 2008 06:09 AM (NnAGL)
What legislation did you pass, Obama? By pass, do you mean wrote it, or shepherded it through the Senate, or do you mean you just happened to be in D.C. the day it came up for a vote?
Could you discuss some of those recommendations you made, why you made them, and in what manner they seem to have been implemented?
Any recommendations made that were not implemented?
FFS
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 02, 2008 06:09 AM (wgLRl)
Posted by: Jake at September 02, 2008 06:09 AM (NM195)
I thought we were clear that there will be no followup questions
Posted by: One of the 2500 Obama operatives at September 02, 2008 06:11 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 02, 2008 06:11 AM (ubHgw)
Wonder how long it will take the media to run with it. Other than Mort Kondracke, who already did.
Posted by: bunny boy at September 02, 2008 06:11 AM (kKg+y)
If a Republican candidate had cited his running a presidential campaign as experience for the office itself, the MSM would be howling about it 24/7. But since it's the Chosen One, the MSM reaction is "meh".
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 02, 2008 06:13 AM (FO+YO)
Posted by: Jack M. at September 02, 2008 06:14 AM (eOEgY)
Did anyone see Carville holding up a photo of the Wasilla town hall last night on CNN? Of course ABC had to replay the clip this morning on GMA. Looks like the talking point has gone out.
The GOP op had to feebly play the gender card and be "offended for women everywhere" instead of asking for a picture of the state capital.
Posted by: turtle at September 02, 2008 06:15 AM (ZiZaA)
Posted by: roy at September 02, 2008 06:17 AM (cB77O)
Posted by: Christoph at September 02, 2008 06:19 AM (hawOV)
Posted by: mbruce at September 02, 2008 06:20 AM (h/5U0)
He's stooping to conquer. Toby's got it right--the fact that he hasn't farmed out VP-level snark to Biden says a lot about The One's present confidence. Actually, his doing so is in line with my theory that Biden will be a bootlicker and nothing more.
As for his running qualifying him, that's in perfect accord with a favorite principle of leftist thinking: it's so meta it hurts.
Posted by: railwriter at September 02, 2008 06:20 AM (nwEiU)
Posted by: Eukardios at September 02, 2008 06:20 AM (96qG1)
Posted by: freemo at September 02, 2008 06:20 AM (IIfdW)
In Alaska instead of paying taxes you RECEIVE $1,000 in the mail once you've lived there for over a year. How hard is it to balance that state budget?
Posted by: Cam at September 02, 2008 06:21 AM (6+j77)
But Obama was a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER. Which means he was somehow able to convince welfare recipients to protest this or that to demand more free shit. After pulling that off, getting Putin to pull out of Georgia will be a piece of cake.
Posted by: buzz at September 02, 2008 06:22 AM (kwhut)
One liberal's take. Peter DeCoursey writes for Capitolwire.com, a subscription site for PA politics.
Palins been dismissed before.
...I do know a few things: first, there is nothing most women detest more than a bunch of male elitists making sure women have few opportunities, then talking about the vital importance of experience.
And I find it hard to believe that if Joe Bidens granddaughter was pregnant at 18, people would regard it as a test of his character.
Sure, it is always SchadenfeudeFest time when a preacher of sexual abstinence, that chimera conservatives try to sell as a solution, turns out to have made no sales with her own daughter, and rightly so. But most parents arent going to rush to judge Palin on that.
And lets remember folks, she is a reformer. By definition, they dont have much experience. Anyone who doubts that can look up the biography of now-indicted former state House Minority Whip Mike Veon, D-Beaver. He began as a reformer, and ended up with 50 counts of felonies.
So McCains choice was someone who helped create the spending and regulatory system he abhors and voted against for decades, or someone to change it. And unfortunately the list of fiscal reformers who come approved by the Council on Foreign Relations was kinda blank this year.
And I also dont get the rush to judgment on Palin. Assuming all the worst that is said and written about her is true, which I doubt, but assuming so, no vice presidential candidate in the 20th century caused his senior running mate to lose.
Dont believe me. Ask Dan Quayle, who didnt stop Papa Bush from winning in 1988, and didnt cause his loss in 1992.
As for Palin? Shell hold up fine. The last time people dismissed her this immediately and fully, she won the governorship of Alaska, to the astonishment of Stevens, Young and especially Murkowski.
Posted by: CJ at September 02, 2008 06:25 AM (9KqcB)
Regarding Obama's "2,500 employees" in this campaign.
Wait one minute ....
is Obama now counting "unpaid advisers" - e.g. Powers, McPeak, et cetera - as employees?
How many people are drawing paychecks from the Obama campaign?
Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 02, 2008 06:25 AM (NnAGL)
I haven't checked it out, but another poster at Ace's said Alaska's budget was $6-billion.
And funny how passing a law that says someone else has to achieve a goal is supposed to be greater executive experience than being the person, like even a small-town mayor, who is actually responsible for implementing the law to achieve the goal.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2008 06:26 AM (qKkaY)
Wait, so the state should not benefit from the fact that it's rich in natural resources? Let's extend this. Maine: give up the tourism and lobster money. Florida: any money you make off your beaches is illegitimate...etc...etc.
Posted by: Slublog at September 02, 2008 06:26 AM (R8+nJ)
I'm not seeing your point, cam
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 06:26 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Judd at September 02, 2008 06:26 AM (BXHeE)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 02, 2008 06:26 AM (DVVXZ)
The other chestnut of self-referential goodness that the Donks are spinning is that he's qualified because he won the nomination of his party.
At which point I face-palm in disgust at sharing the planet with these people, and then have a drink.
Posted by: Phinn at September 02, 2008 06:26 AM (NLtoU)
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 06:29 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Cam at September 02, 2008 11:21 AM (6+j77)
Posted by: Christoph at September 02, 2008 06:29 AM (hawOV)
I don't have the time to parse this (I happen to be playing whack-a-mole at work right now), but I am skeptical of absolutely anything uttered by The One. His intial obfuscation here is egregious: He didn't pass anything. He may have voted to pass something, but His vote simply was not the authoritative yes or no on the matter. I don't even know that He voted for whatever it is that he says He favors. What particular recommendations did He propose? Which ones are being implemented as we speak? Relying on Obama for truth is like discharging a fire extinguisher to clear the air.
Posted by: jazz at September 02, 2008 06:29 AM (sUWlR)
Say hey to jugears and chia head, 'kay pal?
Posted by: hey, wada minnit at September 02, 2008 06:29 AM (ez7V0)
Whatve They Done .Whatve They Run
May I point out for the past 2 years Palin was on-the-job every workday (+weekends) administering her $6.7 billion annual budget, and overseeing her 15,000 employees - while the Obamamessiah was giving speeches on the campaign trail.
I dont know about other parts of the country, but in Chicago the terms activist, community organizer means shakedown artist. As a matter of interest, and while playing the role of neighborhood activist, Obama DID in fact control a $100 million budget - when he was Chairman of Wm. Ayers Annenberg project to enhance the Chicago Public Schools. After he and Ayers (just a guy from the neighborhood according to B.O.) had spent the $100 million in question, the University of Illinois (Chicago) reported there was no discernible improvement to the Chicago school system. Surprised? You shouldnt be when it comes to light the vast majority of the $100 million was spent on grants to ultras left-wing neighborhood activists, reform groups, etc.
In any event, the experience with William Ayers led to the Cook County machines getting him a job as State senator where he voted present 160+ times(!) Yet another example of Executive decision making no doubt. Governors on the other hand, dont have the luxury of voting present, all of which leads me to conclude if the call came in (to the White House) at 3 a.m., Obama would just let the answering machine field the call.
Posted by: alwyr at September 02, 2008 06:31 AM (UYxsF)
Barry, barry, Barry...
He just slimed a woman as being not competent enough to run Alaska.
Lovely people, I am just SURE he had NOTHING at all to do with that sleazy pregnancy rumor, NOTHING AT ALL!
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at September 02, 2008 06:31 AM (sf4Oe)
Cam, do some actual research yourself instead of sucking down whatever blog-trash you people are circulating. Find out how much oil money was coming in before Palin grabbed that bull by the horns and how much Alaska takes in now. Get back to us on that, won't you?
She fights for her people, like a mother lion for her cubs.
Posted by: spongeworthy at September 02, 2008 06:37 AM (a00go)
Oh, it's $8.6-billion and not just $6-billion. And I didn't know that "oil money" is somehow tainted as pork.
But the real point of this thread, tobies and trolls aside, Cam, is that it's about having executive experience in actually seeing how government revenues are spent directly, not about balancing a budget (something Obama couldn't do with that Chicago grant-giving foundation he was CEO of) and about just telling someone else through legislation that they're responsible for doing something with the money, if Obama had even been sitting in the Senate enough to acutally vote.
We can have a different thread about whether Palin is really a pork-buster or not when questions are raised about that. You know, like Ace and e.g. HotAir already have. (And I'm off for the afternoon, so save the "I'm not a troll" stuff for after 7:00 p.m., Cam. Bye.)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2008 06:39 AM (qKkaY)
Posted by: Techie at September 02, 2008 06:39 AM (c7g2P)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2008 06:41 AM (qKkaY)
Barack,
You know at first I was a little skeptical that hiring 2500 people to run around spending $36 million a month trying to convince the world that you're Jesus really did much to prepare someone for running a country of 300+ million people. Especially considering how poorly your campaign has squandered its inherant advantages and the fact that most of your biggest fans seem to be...let me be delicate here...deranged and hatefilled nutjobs who spend much of their time trying to protect you by crazily and hamhandedly lashing out at your percieved enemies. Actually I'm still pretty skeptical.
Mort Kondracke and the establishment liberal media buy into it though so there's that.
Posted by: Big E at September 02, 2008 06:45 AM (uw1/g)
If McCain REALLY wished to bring all this bulls**t to a screeching halt, he should demand three (3) series of debates:
POTUS vs POTUS
VP vs VP
(D) POTUS vs (R) VP, and (R) POTUS vs (D) VP
That way, the public gets to see EVERYBODY at play and can make up their own minds about the talent on the competing tickets.
Posted by: alwyr at September 02, 2008 06:49 AM (UYxsF)
Posted by: jimmytheleg at September 02, 2008 06:49 AM (M+vDq)
he Passed? The man's ego knows no limits. Was he even in involved in this legislation? How on earth can one man out of 100 think he passed the legislation? What kind of colossal arrogance makes a man talk like this - or is he just so inexperienced and foolish he thinks that's how it works?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2008 06:50 AM (0+Ggj)
I can't wait 'til that chain-smoking cocksucker calls her "sweetie" and she sends his tiny 'nads northward.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2008 06:51 AM (EbR5o)
Posted by: Potosi Joel at September 02, 2008 06:52 AM (TPRbZ)
Being Mayor of Wasilla is a bigger accomplishment than anything "Metro" has done. The best part of this whole "issue": that isn't even the top entry on her resume.
How can you tell when the other team is losing without looking at the scoreboard:
When a team switches tactics and uses their allstar forward to guard the other team's point guard, that team is losing.
When a team pulls their goalie to use him on offense, that team is losing.
When the candidate for president of one party's ticket spends all of his time attacking the VP candidate of the other party (and ending up with egg on his face every time he says something), that team is losing.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 02, 2008 06:53 AM (CiVat)
Posted by: polynikes at September 02, 2008 06:56 AM (m2CN7)
OBAMA: Well, you know, my understanding is, is that Governor Palin's town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We have got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month.
This sounds eerily familiar to his "Iran is a tiny country" comments
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 02, 2008 06:57 AM (CiVat)
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 06:58 AM (evdj2)
If McCain was smart he's use this: compair the size of his campaign and budget against Obama's.
Then ask people who they think will reduce the budget and be more fically responsible.
Posted by: LouisianaLightning at September 02, 2008 06:59 AM (+7Usq)
Posted by: polynikes at September 02, 2008 07:00 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Christoph at September 02, 2008 07:01 AM (hawOV)
Guess that'd disqualify both Obama and Biden
Posted by: alwyr at September 02, 2008 07:03 AM (UYxsF)
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 07:06 AM (evdj2)
City Journal looks at Obama's use of government funds to run organizations that advocate for more....government funds:
Barack Obamas ascendance is a testament to community activists success in amassing political power since the mid-1960s, when the War on Poverty fueled their rise and changed the electoral calculus in many U.S. cities.
Community organizings roots stretch back to the 1930s and Chicago organizer Saul Alinsky, founder of the Industrial Areas Foundation and author of Rules for Radicals. But it wasnt until President Lyndon Johnsons ambitious plan to end poverty through massive federal spending that the Alinsky modelgrassroots organizing, neighborhood by neighborhoodreally took off. Starting in the mid-1960s, the federal government directed billions of dollars to neighborhood groups, convinced that they knew better than Washington what their communities needed. The federal funds, eventually supplemented by state and local tax dollars, helped create a universe of government-funded community groups running everything from job-training programs to voter-registration drivesfar beyond anything Alinsky could have imagined. Some 3,000 local social-services groups were soon receiving government funding in New York City alone. Many were new, but the money also helped turn traditional charities that had operated on private donations into government contractors.
Those who led these social-services groups became advocates, unsurprisingly, for government-funded solutions to social problems. To defend and expand their turf, organizers began heading into the political arena, wielding the power they had accumulated in neighborhoods to build a base of supporters. In New York, operators of huge social-services groups like Pedro Espada in the Bronx and Albert Vann in Brooklyn won election to state and federal posts after heading up large, powerful nonprofits. By the late 1980s, nearly 20 percent of New York City Council members were products of the government-funded nonprofit sector, and they were among the most strident advocates for higher taxes and more government spending.
Posted by: CJ at September 02, 2008 07:09 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 02, 2008 07:12 AM (jQj6D)
Hey Obama... I guess I'm a commercial pilot now, because I flew in first class and my jet successfully went from Atlanta to Chicago.
Holy cow. Being the celebrity candidate with a whole staff of managers qualifies you to claim you're running the campaign too? Next we'll have actors claiming they're experienced in running studios, hotel bellhops qualified to run Hyatt International and freshmen college students demanding to teach the classes.
What an entertaining fantasy this man lives in. It's almost like a WE network made-for-television show.
Posted by: redherkey at September 02, 2008 07:16 AM (kjqFg)
Okay, let's do it. Let's get the Mr. Barack Obama monkey off our backs and off other people's backs as well. For starters, we have a choice. Either we let ourselves be led like lambs to the slaughter by Barack Obama and his secret police or we clear the cobwebs out of people's heads and help them understand that Mr. Obama's ideals have grown into the world's greatest enslavers of human minds. While I don't expect you to have much trouble making up your mind you should nevertheless consider that throughout history, there has been a clash between those who wish to challenge the soft bigotry of low expectations and those who wish to sully a profession that's already held in low esteem. Naturally, Mr. Obama belongs to the latter category.
Mr. Obama alleges that an open party with unlimited access to alcohol can't possibly outgrow the host's ability to manage the crowd. Naturally, this is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. An inner voice tells me that only through education can individuals gain the independent tools they need to begin a course of careful, planned, and coordinated action. But the first step is to acknowledge that I do not appreciate being labeled. No one does. Nevertheless, if I didn't think Mr. Obama would shatter other people's lives and dreams, I wouldn't say that I am hurt, furious, and embarrassed. Why am I hurt? Because every time he tells his lapdogs that a plausible excuse is a satisfactory substitute for performance, their eyes roll into the backs of their heads as they become mindless receptacles of unsubstantiated information, which they accept without question. Why am I furious? Because he uses big words like "hydrometallurgically" to make himself sound important. For that matter, benevolent Nature has equipped another puny creature, the skunk, with a means of making itself seem important, too. Although Mr. Obama's intimations may reek like a skunk, some people think that this is a very real and serious concern. Others feel that to call Mr. Obama a beast is to defame all quadrupeds. In the interest of clearing up the confusion I'll make the following observation: Mr. Obama's most steadfast claim is that coercion in the name of liberty is a valid use of state power. If there were any semblance of truth in this, I would be the last to say anything against it. As it stands, however, it's astounding that Mr. Obama has found a way to work the words "parthenogenetic" and "lithochromatographic" into his expostulations. However, you may find it even more astounding that if he continues to traffic in our blood, birthright, and security, crime will escalate as schools deteriorate, corruption increases, and quality of life plummets. And why am I embarrassed? Because Mr. Obama can't discuss anything without talking about revisionism. But the problems with Mr. Obama's orations don't end there.
It should be stressed that I once told Mr. Obama that by supporting dissolute, quasi-vengeful election-year also-rans with inferior moral standards, we devalue ourselves, the lives of our children, and the heroes who died for our freedoms. How did he respond to that? He proceeded to curse me off using a number of colorful expletives not befitting this letter, which serves only to show that Mr. Obama wonders why everyone hates him. Apparently, he never stopped to think that maybe it's because it is not news that whenever he gives a speech, he is always careful to sidestep the issue of how he is offended by the truth. What speaks volumes, though, is that there is a format Mr. Obama should follow for his next literary endeavor. It involves a topic sentence and supporting facts.
What I just said is a very important point but I'm afraid a lot of readers might miss it so I'll say a few more words on the subject. I acknowledge freely and make no apology for the fact that I once considered it reasonable for nefarious demoniacs to exploit other cultures for self-entertainment. But now I know that Mr. Obama likes challenging all I stand for. That's the most damnable thing about him. It's also why Mr. Obama says that the existence and perpetuation of cronyism is its own moral justification. What he means by this, of course, is that he wants free reign to lead us into an age of shoddiness -- shoddy goods, shoddy services, shoddy morals, and shoddy people. Why don't more people complain when they see him relabel millions of people as "malodorous"? It's because Mr. Obama has mastered the art of tricking people with images and myths. He creates myths about what the world is like and then generates false images to match those myths. This proves to me, at least, that the cure for corruption, conspiracy, and treason must start by exposing the problem to people who care and are not themselves corrupted. Sadly, lack of space prevents me from elaborating further.
While morally crippled enemies of the people (especially the insolent type) claim to defend traditional values, they actually achieve total world domination. I once managed to get Mr. Obama to agree that I shall make every effort, especially in this limited space, to enhance people's curiosity, critical acumen, and aesthetic sensitivity. Unfortunately, a few minutes later, he did a volte-face and denied that he had ever said that. Squalid larrikinism is the shadow cast on society by his self-fulfilling prophecies, and as long as this is so, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance.
The pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to arraign Mr. Obama at the tribunal of public opinion? I've known some usurers who were impressively myopic. However, Mr. Obama is tendentious and that trumps myopic every time. Here's some food for thought: There is a proper place in life for hatred. Hatred of that which is wrong is a powerful and valuable tool. But when Mr. Obama perverts hatred in order to consign most of us to the role of his servants or slaves, it becomes clear that the costs of his wheelings and dealings outweigh their benefits. I submit that everyone should stop and mull that assertion. Then, you'll understand why in Mr. Obama's quest to put political correctness ahead of scientific rigor he has left no destructive scheme unutilized.
Mr. Obama just keeps on saying, "I don't give a [expletive deleted] about you. I just want to lead us, lemminglike, over the precipice of self-destruction." Behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when he denies ever having strived to reap a harvest of death. We mustn't let him make it virtually impossible to fire incompetent workers. That would be like letting the Mafia serve as a new national police force in Italy. Mr. Obama wants to work hand-in-glove with doctrinaire galoots. Who does he think he is? I mean, his slogans promote a redistribution of wealth. This is always an appealing proposition for Mr. Obama's hangers-on because much of the redistributed wealth will undoubtedly end up in the hands of the redistributors as a condign reward for their loyalty to Mr. Obama.
I am starting a grassroots campaign with the sole purpose of stopping Mr. Obama. End of story. Actually, I should add that if he is going to make an emotional appeal then he should also include a rational argument. When you get right down to it, he ignores a breathtaking number of facts, most notably:
Fact: It is not possible fully to understand the present except as a projection of the past.
Fact: He is unable to deal with a world populated by human beings.
Fact: He should get off his high horse.
In addition, I want to give people more information about Mr. Obama, help them digest and assimilate and understand that information, and help them draw responsible conclusions from it. Here's one conclusion I indisputably hope people draw: Mr. Obama's hypocrisy is transparent. Even the least discerning among us can see right through it.
Never mind that Mr. Obama's bald-faced lies and growing list of material falsehoods raise some new and very disturbing issues. What's really important is that it will not be easy to change the world for the better. Nevertheless, we must attempt to do exactly that for the overriding reason that on a television program last night, I heard one of this country's top scientists conclude that, "No matter how much Mr. Obama's tracts are rationalized, they still pit the haves against the have-nots." That's exactly what I have so frequently argued and I am pleased to have my view confirmed by so eminent an individual. I need your help if I'm ever to make plans and carry them out. "But I'm only one person," you might protest. "What difference can I make?" The answer is: a lot more than you think. You see, Mr. Obama's primary goal is to give lunatics control of the asylum. All of his other objectives are secondary to this one supreme purpose. That's why you must always remember that Mr. Obama's reasoning is circular and therefore invalid. In other words, he always begins an argument with his conclusion (e.g., that his morals are all sweetness and light) and therefore -- not surprisingly -- he always arrives at that very conclusion.
Someone once said to me, "Mr. Obama should pay for his mistakes." This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since. He is more dangerous than other drugged-out, brazen nobodies because the spoiled, pampered offspring of the cosseted upper class actually believe him when he says that society is supposed to be lenient towards unscrupulous insurrectionists. In his obiter dicta, absenteeism is witting and unremitting, brassbound and mingy. He revels in it, rolls in it, and uses it to tell everyone else what to do. With this letter, I hope I have made my views clear: Even gormless litterbugs are ashamed of being associated with Mr. Barack H. Obama's infantile reasoning and asinine positions.
Posted by: Christoph at September 02, 2008 07:19 AM (hawOV)
Posted by: Pat R. at September 02, 2008 07:19 AM (3rwFl)
By this measure, Harold Stassen, the 4-year perennial "up and comer" who delivered the RNC keynote address in 1940, would have been the best qualified in the last half-century, but this would also make the late comedian Pat Paulsen more qualified that Obama.
Posted by: Neo at September 02, 2008 07:20 AM (Yozw9)
Frankly, the McCain campaign didn't handle the daughter's-bun-in-the-oven situation all that gracefully.
If, as Time says, it's been an open secret around Wasilla, they should have grabbed Levi and chucked him on the plane to Dayton too. "Son, heard about the law of unintended consequences? Well, you're now living it. Contributing seed to the Governor's garden means that, if we have anything to say about it, the Secret Service is going to be following your ass around for the next decade and a half, so you may as well start getting used to it now."
Put him up on stage next to his fiancee and let the press go "WTF?"
Posted by: mrkwong at September 02, 2008 07:22 AM (G8Eo0)
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE GET THIS LINE TO MCCAIN? THANK YOU.
Posted by: mrkwong at September 02, 2008 07:24 AM (G8Eo0)
Sobran is a sad case. In his National Review days, he was one of the most incisive, trenchant conservative columnists around. Then around 1989-90, he started hitting the goofy juice, WF Buckley cut him loose, and he's been on a downward spiral ever since.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 02, 2008 07:29 AM (FO+YO)
So Obama carefully avoids Palin's most recent, relevant experience and then says he has more experience, compared to her previous occupation, because he's part of a campaign that he isn't even managing himself.
Alrighty then. I think that's a veiled admission from Obama that he, in fact, is not as qualified as Palin to be president.
Posted by: Seixon at September 02, 2008 07:32 AM (FxCbM)
Posted by: David Ross at September 02, 2008 07:35 AM (GwV+j)
Isn't this comparing an apple to an orange?
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 02, 2008 07:36 AM (FO+YO)
Posted by: POTL at September 02, 2008 07:36 AM (mD4t/)
Posted by: dorkafork at September 02, 2008 07:36 AM (kErJj)
Posted by: Christoph at September 02, 2008 07:39 AM (hawOV)
Posted by: jimmytheleg at September 02, 2008 07:45 AM (M+vDq)
The latest I heard, the extent of her support was, she wore a "Buchanan" button when he visited the town she was then mayor of.
That's all they got?
Posted by: S. Weasel at September 02, 2008 07:47 AM (rasT+)
Posted by: jimmytheleg at September 02, 2008 07:48 AM (M+vDq)
But.
I'm afraid that this Bristol story will get too much traction. It shouldn't, but it might, and it was an unforced error not to announce it matter-of-factly on Friday.
Add to that the fact that Captain Bullshit has a six-point lead, and I'm nervous. We've got our convention, but I fear that Bristol will overshadow it. We're not going to get the spoogetastic coverage that the Dem convention got. We might not get a bounce at all.
It's very frustrating. We shouldn't be in this race, but we are, and yet the media is trying to snatch it all away from us with a full court press tougher than anything I've ever seen. I can't even look at MSM websites.
Ugh.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at September 02, 2008 07:51 AM (MmPl8)
If a Republican candidate had cited his running a presidential campaign as experience for the office itself, the MSM would be howling about it 24/7. But since it's the Chosen One, the MSM reaction is "meh".
In this case, McCain is twice as qualified as Barry since he's run two times.
Posted by: Steve L. at September 02, 2008 07:51 AM (o0YD+)
I didn't realize that when you're comparing experience, you can just pick any random damn time in your opponent's life to compare it to.
I cannot believe any journalist or politician really thinks we can take them seriously when they talk about "Governor Palin" being only a former mayor. Even when they mention the governor part, they skip the Oil Com. job.
OTOH, who would have thought a new show could convince people that pressing the brake petal would make a car accelerate occasionally, so I guess I shouldn't be suprised at what some people will attempt.
Posted by: MamaAJ at September 02, 2008 07:55 AM (X6Zdh)
Traction how? With whom? What family in America doesn't have at least one member (cousin, aunt, etc) who didn't become pregnant before being married? This isn't something unprecedented and wierd, this is pretty common (sadly) these days. And it is just making the Democrats look awful to women for attacking the topic.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2008 07:56 AM (0+Ggj)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 02, 2008 07:59 AM (B+qrE)
"The elitism embedded in all of the attacks on Governor Palin is becoming more and more obvious and is itself beginning to add to the fuel behind the Palin breakout. The collision between elites and ordinary citizens is unfolding at a very rapid pace, and the spirit of reform and change isn't with the elites or their chosen candidate."
Ask Bristol Palin,
Liberals are MEAN
Posted by: Reiver at September 02, 2008 08:07 AM (Yi1Sk)
Posted by: Christoph at September 02, 2008 08:08 AM (hawOV)
From the thread topic:
"I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month."
Does BHO really have $36million to spend each month, is this wishful thinking, or something else?
"So, I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute, I think, has been made clear over the last couple of years."
Who, by name? It looks like success can be attributed to Bobby Jindal (R-La), not to Barak Obama at all.
And now, a parsing attempt:
"And, certainly, in terms of the legislation that I passed supported / voted for / talked about/etc. just dealing with this issue post-Katrina of how we handle emergency management, the fact that many of my recommendations (list please, and from any Senate Committee minutes) were adopted and are being put in place as we speak, (too late, the recommendations that are being executed now are of interest, not new ones being put into place) I think, indicates the degree to which we can provide the kinds of support and good service (we're talking about emergency preparedness / evacuation, not job counseling / tennants rights / health clinic operations) that the American people expect."
It;s starting to look like a detailed seach for the truth will reveal that BHO did nothing other than vote for legislation.
Posted by: Arbalest at September 02, 2008 08:11 AM (1j+ex)
Posted by: jazz at September 02, 2008 08:19 AM (sUWlR)
Various:
1. So Obama is forcing the comparison to Palin's stint at the helm of Wasilla? Let's run with this a bit. Hmm. By that account, McCain's experience qual' makes him a former Annapolis graduate. Obama is a former community organizor, Biden is a ...well, Biden is unemployed, and Palin is a former mayor.
Advantage: Palin.
2. Obama supported ...hmm, himself it seems. Palin supported Forbes? That Steve Forbes? - Omigawd, I want to have her love child.
Advantage: Palin
3. Obama is an intimate of Bill Ayers, unrepentant US terrorist. Palin once wore a Buchanan button (amongst others) to greet the crusy old retro-grouch ...and ol' Pat isn't all that happy bein' called a Nazi symp' y'all. No indeedy: expect him to retaliate. Count on it.
Advantage: Palin
4. If it came to it Obama would drive one of his baby girls to the clinic to face the knife. Todd Palin fired up the snowmobile and rode over to the boy's house with a shotgun and a steely smile ...wedding to shortly follow.
Advantage: God
5. Obama says "...then we'll just bring a gun to a knife fight" (or something unsporting), albeit altogether unconvincingly. Palin nuzzles up to that mean-looking full-auto rifle beside the range instructor and lovingly caresses the trigger just so and doesn't even flinch when she lights it off.
Advantage: Heh.
...double heh.
Posted by: davis,br at September 02, 2008 08:30 AM (zewwG)
Damn, Cam doesn't even get this right. As of 2007, it's about $1600, and that comes from the Permanent Fund, which is a rather unique institution.
Even the corrupt Republican political regime in Alaska has enough restraint to keep from having to tax individual residents. Can you imagine the gluttony if you transplanted the Chicago Democratic machine into AK?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 02, 2008 08:31 AM (Ds4I5)
Posted by: bleh at September 02, 2008 08:34 AM (GNCy6)
Palin was a Forbes supporter.
That's not insignificant, folks. It's a very positive indicator of Palin's small government convictions, in my view.
Posted by: Bugler at September 02, 2008 08:39 AM (YCVBL)
According to the AICPA's "Obama Standard," every human on the planet capable of spending can "executively" manage a budget. In summary (and I'll paraphrase) in states, "Starting with a whole pile of credits, spend freely until the balance equals zero. Keep receipts of all transactions. Record the expenditures as debits. Produce a balance sheet and place a zero at the bottom. Oh, and by the way, you need not actually keep the books yourself. Executively delegate the activity to any member of your management team and go get a massage. You've earned it."
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 02, 2008 08:39 AM (sI5Ho)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 02, 2008 08:43 AM (sI5Ho)
Hahahahaha I love the Religious Right. You are the ones defending the "sanctity of marriage" right? It's such a devout and holy institution that every time a teenager gets pregnant it means that they MUST get married. I guess having unprotected sex means that you are soul mates? How does a shotgun wedding equate with the "protection of this sacred institution"?
Posted by: Cam at September 02, 2008 08:46 AM (6+j77)
The Alaska state budget runs about $6.5 Billion. So by Obama's own logic, she is more qualified to be President than he is.
Posted by: Mark at September 02, 2008 08:47 AM (/5VuW)
Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 02, 2008 08:51 AM (MMC8r)
Dammit, davis, br: way to let the troll call you out. You must have been the #1 own-goal scorer in your soccer league.
Cam: davis does not speak for the "Religious Right" (whatever that is) any more than I do. None of us knows what Todd Palin did. He could well have brought up the adoption option. Here's the point - you don't know. And it's not your business.
Posted by: David Ross at September 02, 2008 08:54 AM (GwV+j)
And the troll outs himself! Enjoy your stay -- and the beating you'll take.
Posted by: someone at September 02, 2008 08:54 AM (2z2WN)
Well that's great and all, but who's this "You" that's so religious? My shadow? Surprise! It isn't religious either... at least in any manifestation you would assume.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 02, 2008 08:57 AM (sI5Ho)
Posted by: Nyctalus Lasiopterus at September 02, 2008 08:58 AM (6y90N)
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 09:01 AM (evdj2)
Cam? That whiffling sound you heard a few minutes ago? That was the sound of a point whizzing by your cluelessness.
...not that I make it a point to feed the trolls y'all.
Posted by: davis,br at September 02, 2008 09:01 AM (zewwG)
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 09:03 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 09:04 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Jason at September 02, 2008 09:12 AM (3ayxb)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 02, 2008 09:12 AM (sI5Ho)
David? Meet Humour. Humour, let me introduce you to David. He's a nice guy, but he's a wee bit serious: take some time getting acquainted. I'm sure you'll like each other.
...
And dammit, I forgot to put this one in:
6. Obama makes you think of rainbows and unicorns. Palin sparks the Naughty Librarian vibe.
Advantage: Reality
Posted by: davis,br at September 02, 2008 09:13 AM (zewwG)
Since when did the party of fiscal conservatism allow the President to rack up the largest increase to our national debt in history?
Since when did the party of small gov't allow the President to preside over the largest increase in the federal gov't in history?
Since when did the party of personal rights allow the President to begin destroying my personal freedoms?
Since when did every decision the GOP makes have to be vetted by a chorus of pastors from the bigoted religious right?
I believe that there are larger issues at stake in this country besides gun control, abortion and gay marriage. And pandering to pro-life voters, and possibly women in general, is all the Palin pick accomplished. You all know that Pawlenty, Romney, Lieberman or Ridge were all IMMENSELY more qualified to take over the Presidency.
McCain couldn't pick Lieberman or Ridge because of abortion, and didn't pick Romney or Pawlenty because he needed more "buzz." Abortion and "buzz" as two main criteria for selecting the potential President. Now that's putting country first.
Posted by: Cam at September 02, 2008 09:16 AM (6+j77)
No, it was orthodox. If that's not you, its the first duplicate hash I've seen.
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 09:19 AM (evdj2)
Maybe .. probably.. who knows?, if they could get elected in this cycle. I have a good feeling, so far, about Palin.
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 09:21 AM (evdj2)
In that case, Cam, you have moved yourself from the category of troll to Acolyte Token Liberal ...a step in the right direction (we get so few these days; though trolls have increased since the Palin announcement). With some continuity, you may be amenable to de-programming. Regardless, you will make an excellent foil.
...not that we hold out much hope for your eventual recovery. And you're off to a bad start, too.
Posted by: davis,br at September 02, 2008 09:23 AM (zewwG)
Since when did the party of fiscal conservatism allow the President to rack up the largest increase to our national debt in history?
Since when did the party of small gov't allow the President to preside over the largest increase in the federal gov't in history?
I know! Let's get someone on the ticket who has a habit of cutting away government excesses, like eliminating pork and selling wasteful pieces of equipment. Fights corrupt politicians. Willing to cut taxes. And will even reduce their own salary. If only we could find such a person
Since when did the party of personal rights allow the President to begin destroying my personal freedoms?
Which freedoms? Be specific. Provide links to demonstrate that these freedoms you once had are now gone.
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2008 09:25 AM (Lrsi6)
If you voted GWB (who is more religious than McCain) over Kerry (who goes to a less rampant church than did Obama), why aren't you gung-ho about pushing McCain over Obama? The religiosity difference is far narrower this time around, giving the secular right an edge relative to 04.
I'm guessing the larger issues at stake this time around, for real Republicans, are health care, education, and the environment. And world peace!
You're right; I don't believe you.
Posted by: David Ross at September 02, 2008 09:27 AM (GwV+j)
Posted by: David Ross at September 02, 2008 09:31 AM (GwV+j)
Rights that are being trampled? Where to start. Habeas Corpus mean much to you? Guess not. Right to a warrant before search and seizure? Nah we don't need that. The political independence of the judiciary and Attorney General's office? Meh, fuck it!
Posted by: Cam at September 02, 2008 09:40 AM (5+UZK)
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/31/america/31reconstruct.php
Posted by: Cam at September 02, 2008 09:42 AM (6+j77)
I'm going to go with "not."
Posted by: Phinn at September 02, 2008 09:43 AM (NLtoU)
Her flip-flop on the bridge to nowhere really isn't the best example of coming out against pork-barrel spending.
Wasn't a flip-flop but nice of you to get your DNC talking points down.
Habeas Corpus mean much to you?
Go cry to Lincoln.
Right to a warrant before search and seizure?
Sorry but prove that right exists. The 4th amendment protects against unreasonable searches and siezures. They can still do it without a warrant. And since you're likely complaining about warrantless wiretaps, it should be pointed out that those have existed for a while, and were being done before. They could be subjected to a warrant retroactively though. Guess what, if a warrant comes afterwards it didn't come before. Blowing your idiotic rant out of the water.
The political independence of the judiciary and Attorney General's office?
I think its funny you actually believe this really has ever existed. And how is this your freedom being violated?
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2008 09:52 AM (Lrsi6)
Posted by: davis,br at September 02, 2008 09:52 AM (zewwG)
Another point: Cam says here that it has read Obama's policies and has approved them over McCain's. These would include a massive increase in internal "civilian corps" spending, and a tax cut which even someone who was a child in 1993 knows will be laughed out of Pelosi's Congress if he dares bring it up.
But yeah, Cam's a registered Republican. Who thinks the reason McCain didn't pick a Democrat as his veep was because of the "Religious Right", whom he didn't even know existed until 2005 or so.
Cam, please do not treat us like idiots.
Posted by: David Ross at September 02, 2008 09:54 AM (GwV+j)
Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 02, 2008 09:55 AM (evdj2)
Gee, where have I heard that before?
Look guys, it's another REAL conservative! OMG I'M BLINDED BY THE LIGHT OF TRUTH
Posted by: Megan at September 02, 2008 10:14 AM (nQDsh)
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Posted by: thirtypundit at September 02, 2008 10:27 AM (Qd57B)
Has there even been a post one way or the other about McCain on this diseased drip-pan of a blog? I mean why the fuck should he be president?
Fatty typed his little sausages to the bone over the week-end and all Barry Hussein gave him to mock was this bland bit of blah. Come on Barry you know typical white people need help in the creativity department.
This is the end and you all should know it. Do not be afraid. You are entering permanent minority status and until Father Jindal is able to raise the lord from the seas and send him to smite down your enemies you will be in darkness and ashes.
Posted by: frito at September 02, 2008 10:27 AM (mpt76)
Posted by: thirtypundit at September 02, 2008 10:28 AM (Qd57B)
Yet, he's reduced to claiming that his Presidential candidate is more qualified than our VP pick.
Why is he afraid to compare Barry to McCain? Because Barry's an unqualified incompetent empty suit.
Their panic is our gravy.
Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 02, 2008 10:32 AM (MMC8r)
Believe it or not, I am a registered Republican, and I supported GW in 2004 against Kerry. The party left me, I did not leave the party.
So you've established your "bona fides," while at the same time invoking your victim status. You have an axe to grind because you can't find a home.
Since when did the party of fiscal conservatism allow the President to rack up the largest increase to our national debt in history?
Assuming that your statement is true, you're advocating abandoning the Republican party that, irrespective of the platform, has a base that still advocates fiscal conservatism, and you do this to go where? To the other party that does not even pretend to fiscal conservatism? To a third party that, for all their idealogical expressions, cannot in the foreseeable future win a presidential election? You give every impression of committing yourself to the greater of two evils because you feel marginalized. Nice tantrum.
Since when did the party of small gov't allow the President to preside over the largest increase in the federal gov't in history?
The largest increase in what? You need to be specific, Cam. Government employees? Spending? I won't necessarily disagree with you factually (if you actually can define your "largest increase" with a modicum of specificity), but are you seriously saying that the party can forbid the president anything once he's elected? That's a rather juvenile interpretation of how politics works.
Since when did the party of personal rights allow the President to begin destroying my personal freedoms?
Again, specifics. Again, see the immediately preceding response. As to your habeas assertion, yes, the President signed the Military Commissions Act of 2006. The Act was, however, authored and passed by Congress. It wasn't the unilateral action of which you complain, and it certainly can't be laid solely at the President's feet. You obfuscate.
Since when did every decision the GOP makes have to be vetted by a chorus of pastors from the bigoted religious right?
You're being fatuous now. This is just an absurd statement. You know it. We know it. And it detracts from any sense of legitimacy that your complaints might otherwise carry.
Here's the point you've made so far: You are a malcontent who wants to pee in everyone else's Cheerios because they don't make the same value judgments you do.
Posted by: jazz at September 02, 2008 10:35 AM (sUWlR)
McCain should take a healthly lead after he and Palin address the nation this week, which will continue through election day
It will balloon a bit during the debates, when the country gets a first hand look at B. Husseins stammering philosophicalness without a teleprompter
Posted by: Mr. Happy at September 02, 2008 10:40 AM (KTgUG)
And the state of Alaska has 15,000 employees and a budget of $11 Billion, you Marxist dumbass.
Posted by: Socky at September 02, 2008 10:41 AM (PLvLS)
Their panic is our gravy.
Are you fucking kidding? I am freaking out with joy. I thought Palin was going to be a bad pick over weeks, had no idea it would reap such reward in mere hours. Barry increased his lead in all polls in all sections two days out from the pick and now she is framed as the power-mad, secessionist nutjob, abstinence-only with the pregnant teen daughter candidate. I'm sure her numbers will go up. Game over Stinks.
Posted by: frito at September 02, 2008 10:42 AM (mpt76)
Has there even been a post one way or the other about McCain on this diseased drip-pan of a blog? I mean why the fuck should he be president?
Yeah, no discussion on this blog about John McCain and our reasons for liking or disliking him for the office of POTUS. No siree.
You reek of fail and a miserably stupid socio-political worldview that has brought nothing but misery and suffering every time and place it's been implemented. But mostly fail.
This is the end and you all should know it. Do not be afraid. You are entering permanent minority status and until Father Jindal is able to raise the lord from the seas and send him to smite down your enemies you will be in darkness and ashes.
Your false messiah is dying on the vine, honeynipples. The wailing and screaming from you psychotic halfwits and your media mouthpieces is a sweet symphony to sane America. Captain Dumbass has been spending in excess of the GDPs of half the world's countries since about midway through the primaries, and he's gotten his electoral ass kicked for the effort (really, sweetie -- can you even remember far back enough when HopeyChange actually won an electoral contest?). No matter -- he's just spending the unearned trustfunds of shitheel suckers like you.
Anybody seen a convention bounce around here? Anyone at all?
Enjoy political oblivion, frito. America has had enough of the "I'm black and that's all you need to know" candidate and his goosestepping little goonsquads. And it's sure not like Obama can earn votes by opening his mouth (because he's an accomplishment-free dumbass) or by having his surrogates speak on his behalf (because they're vile pieces of subhuman filth).
Enjoy that "victory". We'll be enjoying it right along with you.
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Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 02, 2008 12:09 PM (MMC8r)
>In Alaska instead of paying taxes you RECEIVE $1,000 in the mail once you've lived there for over a year. How hard is it to balance that state budget?
Full time residents of Alaska receive a portion of the state's oil production royalties.
Posted by: Jones at September 02, 2008 12:33 PM (VkNlv)
Palin- state governor
Obama - community organizer, part-time US senator
I'm going with the governor.
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Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 02, 2008 12:54 PM (MMC8r)
They look at *their* women. Then they look at *our* women. Then, they look at their woman again. That's when they explode.
Posted by: Socky at September 02, 2008 01:20 PM (PLvLS)
If running for President makes you qualified ot be President, doesn't that make John McCain (and Joe Biden for that matter) twice as qualified as Obama?
Just askin.
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