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August 08, 2008

The Clinton Sex-Scandal Progression
— Ace

Kaus previewed the pattern the other day.

We all know this playbook from the Clinton Impeachment Wars.

Im assuming were reaching the next-to-final stage of the natural progression in cases like this: 1) Too horrible and shocking; it cant possibly be true; 2) Its not true; 3) You cant prove its true; 4) Why are you trying to prove its true? 5) Its disgusting that youve proved its true; 6) Whats the big deal anyway?

I'm always stunned by the rapid transformation to step 6. If it was no big deal in the first place, why the fuck were you denying it so vehemently and tearing into people for suggesting such a "no big deal" of a thing?

That's from Allah, with a lot of thoughts. He links Spruiell making this kinda-obvious point, but Spruiell has at least made it official by checking the calendar:

Elizabeth Edwards was diagnosed with incurable cancer in late March of 2007. Rielle Hunters baby was born in late February of 2008. That means that if Edwards is the father, he was definitely still carrying on the affair with Hunter after he knew his wifes cancer was back.

Yes, he's almost certainly lying. Will the Committee to Protect Elizabeth now move on to blocking any inquiry into the child's paternity and Edwards' "friends'" "possible" payoffs of Rielle Hunter?

Look, Elizabeth Edwards still needs lots of protecting. Even more so now, if you think about it.

We can't expect the MSM to leave the field of battle before the war is actually won. They only suggest that course of action in actual wars.

OPERATION PROTECT ELIZABETH

Never leave a fellow liberal soldier behind, and never stop fighting until the battle is won. The campaign continues.

"All the News That Doesn't Harm Elizabeth Edwards"

I really can't fucking believe the media is now deciding whether to report big stories of national scope based on whether someone they like might be distressed by their reportage.

Of course I can believe it; I have to believe it. It's what they're doing, obviously.

I guess the New York Times didn't like Cindy McCain all that much when it reported on McCain's non-affair with his non-paramour.

Should media organizations be required to disclose which people they "like" and wish to "protect," and which people they "don't like" and "don't wish to protect," so that we might know beforehand where their biases may lie?

Seems like a bona fide conflict of interest, more so than many others. If the media is in the tank for Elizabeth Edwards, we need to know that, in order to properly evaluate their coverage of her husband.

National Enquirer Editor Cries Bullshit: David Perel, editor of the NE, is on FoxNews now... Or was fifteen minutes ago. All he said there was that Edwards' claims "don't ring true."

Stace says that on Hannity he went beyond that and said that Edwards was the father, and promises "more to come," but not having heard that, I can't confirm it.

From what I heard, he's simply saying "this is almost certainly pure bullshit" like the rest of us are.

We'll see what other pictures he has.

Big Question: And an important one.

Did the Democratic Party force Edwards to confess, or was it the threat of Brian Ross' coming report on ABCNews?

It matters. If it's the former, than the MSM chose to let the Democratic Party sort out its house on its own schedule, being so kind-hearted as to allow them to take care of their business without media intrusion. Only once the Democratic Party had decided Edwards' had to come clean did the media begin reporting (and only because Edwards himself came forward).

Which is called collusion.

Posted by: Ace at 11:01 AM | Comments (25)
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1 What are the odds that Reille, Andrew Young & Silky were having 3-ways? Reille was there to provide a beard to Silky in case they were caught red-handed, but she got caught in the crossfire by mistake. That might explain some of Silky's moronic statements.

Posted by: Che Pizza at August 08, 2008 11:07 AM (RLBRw)

2 Uh, you got the lib ideology wrong,
it's simply:
never stop fighting.
Shit, some people are still upset over Alger Hiss.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 08, 2008 11:08 AM (QxSug)

3 Is it too obvious to point out that the MSM finally broke the story late on a Friday afternoon?

Posted by: mpur at August 08, 2008 11:10 AM (IPnUy)

4 I already witnessed cases of step #6 on CNN & MSNBC within 15 mins of the news breaking.

Posted by: Che Pizza at August 08, 2008 11:11 AM (RLBRw)

5 I posted this in the earlier thread, but NE editor Perel was just on Hannity's radio show. He says Edwards is the father, and there's much more to come. The NE has only just begun its coverage--they have a lot more on him.

Posted by: stace at August 08, 2008 11:14 AM (JO0c/)

6
So... What I get out of this is that the National Enquirer is a more reliable news source than the Times.

Shit, I guess this means Elvis really *is* alive and that he has a good diet plan developed by aliens.

Posted by: electricferret at August 08, 2008 11:15 AM (kKO7A)

7 Do you think ABC set this off now so the National Enquirer would not have the thunder at the convention? Since they did admit that was kind of the plan.

Posted by: mare at August 08, 2008 11:15 AM (xMkst)

Hey, this Devil's Advocate thing is kinda fun...

Do we really know that the MSM sat on the story to protect Elizabeth, or could it be because the source was the NE who only very recently released the photos they had? The public is going to view Elizabeth as a sympathetic figure, and to publish the accusation with the NE as the sole source might have been viewed as sleazy by their readership.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 08, 2008 11:19 AM (rf03a)

9 3: actually, it's more like Edwards broke the story today...because it's Friday

Posted by: ECM at August 08, 2008 11:20 AM (q3V+C)

So... What I get out of this is that the National Enquirer is a more reliable news source than the Times.

Shit, I guess this means Elvis really *is* alive and that he has a good diet plan developed by aliens.

Whenever the National Enquirer publishes something about a living person with lawyers, you can bet that they've got the goods on them. Elvis, Princess Di, and JFK Jr. are, of course, fair game.

Posted by: Maetenloch at August 08, 2008 11:21 AM (hn7Rm)

11 Did Elvis fuck Reille too?

Posted by: Rocks at August 08, 2008 11:23 AM (Q1lie)

Did Elvis fuck Reille too?

No, but she is Elvis's lovechild and so is Edwards, so the kid will be all Elvis.

Posted by: Maetenloch at August 08, 2008 11:27 AM (hn7Rm)

13 Somebody should photoshop Edwards head onto a photo of a baby. Or, at least photoshop his hair onto one.

Posted by: grc at August 08, 2008 11:37 AM (lMPRu)

14 I am not puzzled by the "I didn't love her" bit. For I remembered that in one of his earliest non-denial denials, he replied to the question "have you ever had an affair?" by stating (paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to look it up): "I only love Elizabeth." Tricky he is. Smelled a rat from that point on. As answering a question not asked and ignoring the question asked is too lawyerly by a half. But by repeating the same slickness again, at least he's consistent and can say he didn't "lie" when he didn't answer that earlier question because, "I've been sayin' all along I only love Elizabeth." Little John, not so much.

Posted by: dan at August 08, 2008 11:38 AM (VdJEh)

15 It was the Socialist Bertrand Russell who pointed out that Bolshevism merely stepped into the shoes of the Orthodox Church. The MSM is now a most willing tool of this ideological church; it excoriates its enemies, those who have fallen away form the true faith, the right wing "fascists", and protects its believers , the left of any stripe. It does this mostly for money, since its parishioners are from whom it derives power in the form of readers or viewers. Objectivity is impossible since it will not produce any benefit . Edwards was and still is a soldier of god to them . Clinton was an Archbishop. You seem to imply that they have " standards" of some sort and can be judged on them. Forget it. Their standards were divinely revealed and so cannot be judged.

Posted by: mytralman at August 08, 2008 11:47 AM (2mkKY)

16 Sorry, ace, I didn't even notice that you quoted me in the post. I didn't hear the entire interview because I was ordering my kid a taco plate in the drive-through. That's what I thought I heard, though. I could practically hear Perel rubbing his hands in glee. He says he has excellent sources who've been right on everything so far, and there's more to come. I think he also said that Edwards had paid another visit to Hunter recently, but I was paying for the tacos right then, so don't quote me on it.

Posted by: stace at August 08, 2008 11:48 AM (JO0c/)

Im assuming were reaching the next-to-final stage of the natural progression in cases like this: 1) Too horrible and shocking; it cant possibly be true; 2) Its not true; 3) You cant prove its true; 4) Why are you trying to prove its true? 5) Its disgusting that youve proved its true; 6) Whats the big deal anyway? 7) Its Old!

Fixed it for ya!

Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 08, 2008 12:33 PM (C2//T)

Fixed it for me!

Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 08, 2008 12:34 PM (C2//T)

So Rielle had moved on to a new relationship with Andrew Young, even having a baby with him, as previously admitted (by Young).

So why does John visit at 2 am? Maybe he's the godfather! In any case this sure makes Reille look slutty.

And Stan was right. John Edwards: "Biggest Douche in the Universe"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Biggest_Douche_in_the_Universe

I know, but it still applies to this one.

Posted by: TakeFive at August 08, 2008 12:44 PM (/3pxq)

20 I could have sworn I saw the image of Jesus in the placenta...

Posted by: Alien Batboy at August 08, 2008 01:44 PM (zAvxs)

21 Let's all remember -- the MSM found the National Enquirer a very credible source when it broke the Rush Limbaugh/Oxycontin story.

Oh, and I really like this response:

Uh, you got the lib ideology wrong,
it's simply:
never stop fighting.
Shit, some people are still upset over Alger Hiss.

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 08, 2008

Nice observation. For three decades, and against all evidence, the socialists at NPR have regularly painted Alger Hiss as an innocent martyr. It seems like they have their calendar marked when the next Alger Hiss apologia is to be aired.

Posted by: Tinian at August 08, 2008 02:19 PM (1Mq7K)

22

The left to everybody else:

You can't have that SUV or yacht or cheap gas, stay with your wife even if she has cancer Newt.

The left to themselves:

Where's my SUV, I need one, and I need a yacht and cheap gas and a hamburger, no a hot dog, two hot dogs, and can I get a cheap whore to knock up, my fucking wife has cancer.

What a bunch of assholes.

Posted by: Rev Dr The Man E Buzz Fucking Fuck Off Fuck at August 08, 2008 03:15 PM (sf4Oe)

23 she got caught in the crossfire by mistake

Heh.

Okay, he's a politician, so by definition he's a scumbag. He had his staff, his family (probably) and the MSM covering his back on the affair, so one might say that he felt safe. But what kind of cretin has an extramarital affair without using a fucking condom? Especially when he's a public figure?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 08, 2008 03:38 PM (Ds4I5)

I dont see what leverage the DNC would have over him to force a confession now.

I mean, he knew the story was out there and ergo his political career was over, so what does he care what the DNC thinks? Does he owe them money?

Posted by: TMF at August 08, 2008 03:53 PM (+BgNZ)

25 Che,

The 3 way was kind of my first thought as well. Maybe they have some videos to prove he is not the father? You get my drift.........

Posted by: Bob Crane at August 08, 2008 06:48 PM (xOrB4)

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