November 10, 2009
— Ace No link for the pot-smoking case-fixing scofflaw.
Reading Dana Priest's summary and then the document itself, it seems to me that in some ways, Hasan was airing an important debate. I don't glean from the notes for his lecture that he was necessarily an Islamist fanatic, merely that he could see how Islam could be seen as incompatible with military service in Iraq and Afghanistan. His view is pretty close to what many critics of Islam argue. Of course, the power-points cannot convey the tone of content of his actual remarks, so I may be wrong. But as a piece of analysis, it's admirably candid and very clear about Islam's total rejection of a separation between church and state. It seems to me from this evidence that his looming deployment, and the impossibility of a conscientious discharge, were contributing factors to his mass murder. The lecture almost reads like a cry for help, rather than a warning.
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Posted by: Regular Monkey (rdb) at November 10, 2009 11:52 AM (mkihu)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 10, 2009 11:53 AM (w41GQ)
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Posted by: joncelli at November 10, 2009 11:55 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: BarbaraS at November 10, 2009 11:56 AM (yqqXm)
BTW-I don't think there are too many practicing Muslims who are in favor of it but without proof positive, Andrew can ignore it.
Posted by: DrewM. at November 10, 2009 11:56 AM (FCWQb)
Posted by: Sharkman at November 10, 2009 11:56 AM (sZOIi)
Posted by: dananjcon at November 10, 2009 11:56 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 10, 2009 11:57 AM (DIYmd)
Posted by: ace at November 10, 2009 11:58 AM (jlvw3)
Posted by: SRettig at November 10, 2009 11:58 AM (+bwVC)
"I am reminded of the time a Muslim came to the rescue of a child with a skinned knee. He unwrapped that rag from atop his head, tore it into strips and bound it round the boy's boo-boo. This my friends, was the birth of the Band-Aid"
-ObamaFacts!
Posted by: ObamaFacts! at November 10, 2009 11:59 AM (qzCj7)
Another bleat from Andrew, wishing he could be a sheep, in the land and times, when men were men, and the sheep were scared.
Andrew's favorite film - Stump Broke Democrat
Posted by: MDr at November 10, 2009 11:59 AM (ucq49)
But REALLY -- Thanks a bunch here. I couldn't do it. He's SO intellectually dishonest and morally shallow that I literally CAN'T read him anymore.
Posted by: Dougf at November 10, 2009 11:59 AM (16GPT)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 10, 2009 11:59 AM (GGgoa)
Cry for help. Already they've begun redesignating him as a victim.
Insanity defense, telling you. This guy won't see any time and will get pardoned by Wee Wee his last week in office.
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 10, 2009 11:59 AM (Haq+B)
Maybe he should have seen a shrink or something to help him with his issues.
/sarc off
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 10, 2009 12:00 PM (KWhJd)
Posted by: BarbaraS at November 10, 2009 12:00 PM (yqqXm)
Posted by: Chainsaw at November 10, 2009 12:01 PM (+i60o)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at November 10, 2009 12:02 PM (MbyMv)
Posted by: Andy "Mike Loads" Sullivan at November 10, 2009 12:02 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: a Christianist at November 10, 2009 12:02 PM (XtjBe)
I guess the question is, how long after we get attacked in the CONUS will Obama surrender and proclaim this a Muslim nation? Hours? Days? Upon attack?
/I wish I was kidding?
Posted by: shibumi at November 10, 2009 12:02 PM (OKZrE)
Andi got busted smoking up in a national park, which federal offense could negatively effect his immigration status were it to remain on his record, so the admin sent one of its lawyers down to throw the case. Judge was pissed, but not pissed enough to get himself audited. Case thrown.
Laws are for enemies of the state, and poor people.
Posted by: oblig. at November 10, 2009 12:02 PM (g85ec)
Seriously, all jokes aside, did Andrew Sullivan mention if Hasan was circumcised? Because that alone, in Sullivan's sick demented mind is cause enough for Hasan's jihad.
Posted by: Tweet says stuff at November 10, 2009 12:02 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 10, 2009 12:02 PM (GGgoa)
I need some edumecation, did he actually ask for one?
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 10, 2009 12:03 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: runninrebel at November 10, 2009 12:04 PM (i3PJU)
Posted by: KelliD at November 10, 2009 12:04 PM (Q9Cny)
Talk about opportunism.
After working with a group of Iranian guys, I can tell you that behavior is par for the course. And a point of pride.
Anything to screw the infidel.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 10, 2009 12:04 PM (ZGhSv)
10 sullivan got busted for pot and so hired the brother of a powerful Mass. Representative
Posted by: ace at November 10, 2009 04:58 PM (jlvw3)
Powerful Mass. representaive. Would that be his card carrying colon comrade Barney Frank?
Posted by: Andy at November 10, 2009 12:04 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: palin steele at November 10, 2009 12:04 PM (VKn7o)
Oh wait, they already have, all through Bush's years....
Posted by: exdem13 at November 10, 2009 12:06 PM (lYKj1)
Can someone please tell this guy to shut the fuck up already?
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 10, 2009 12:06 PM (jV9DU)
You know what else is a cry for help?
A grown man prancing around like he's a chick and blowing another dude and getting buggered in the anus. Kinda tells people you have issues with your dad that need to be worked out.
Posted by: Tweet says stuff at November 10, 2009 12:06 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: runninrebel at November 10, 2009 12:06 PM (i3PJU)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 12:08 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: maddogg at November 10, 2009 12:08 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Popcorn at November 10, 2009 12:08 PM (OOehk)
...did he actually ask for one?
IIRC, he had retained a lawyer to get out of deployment. Maybe not for a discharge.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 10, 2009 12:09 PM (ZGhSv)
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 12:09 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 10, 2009 12:10 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: CUS at November 10, 2009 12:11 PM (wOGfT)
Posted by: joncelli at November 10, 2009 12:11 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: maddogg at November 10, 2009 12:11 PM (OlN4e)
There is so much BS in Sullivan's take I don't know where to start, but I'll give it a shot. Let's see: as a medical officer he would not be directly in combat; he voluntarily signed up for the US military; church and state cannot be seperated (there goes secularism and any argument against creches on public land, etc.); and a cry for help - yep, that always manifests itself as a murder-spree.
Incoherent cognitive dissonance, you are Andrew Sullivan.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at November 10, 2009 12:12 PM (TUWci)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 10, 2009 12:12 PM (IqfKc)
Posted by: portlandon at November 10, 2009 12:13 PM (WfKY9)
Posted by: nickless at November 10, 2009 12:15 PM (MMC8r)
I thought people only signed up because they were too stupid to get a real job in the economy Booooosh destroyed? Has the lefty meme changed?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 10, 2009 12:16 PM (NtiET)
And he apparently wasn't against war and violence. He went to war and murdered for the other side.
Wait a minute, who are you? Why are you protecting this? Where are your allegiances, Sully? I find you patriotism.... questionable!
Posted by: Z Ryan at November 10, 2009 12:16 PM (cMo6P)
You know what'd be nice? If Ace or someone could make it so a post goes up automatically at midnight for the rest of us who don't feel like partaking in the 7th grade slumber party that is the ONT.
Heck, just keep auto-posting the Fruit Bat story and that would keep us busy for years.
Posted by: Tweet says stuff at November 10, 2009 12:16 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at November 10, 2009 12:19 PM (i3PJU)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at November 10, 2009 12:19 PM (i3PJU)
Posted by: maddogg at November 10, 2009 12:19 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Tweet says stuff at November 10, 2009 12:20 PM (KHma2)
Oh, holy fuck, this is almost enough to make me wish for an Islamic take over of America.
Yeah, on the down side I'll have to give up bacon, pray five times a day, and wear a towel on my head.
But on the upside, I'll never have to hear another word from Andy Sullivan. He'll be quietly resting under a toppled stone wall.
Posted by: DelD at November 10, 2009 12:20 PM (bEN5w)
Heck, just keep auto-posting the Fruit Bat story and that would keep us busy for years.
Speaking of cries for help...
Posted by: Mama AJ at November 10, 2009 12:20 PM (Be4xl)
Posted by: Andy Sullivan at November 10, 2009 12:21 PM (2MJUa)
maddogg. I like what you have to say and would like to subscribe to your newsletter and recipe club.
Posted by: Nick Berg's head at November 10, 2009 12:21 PM (KHma2)
Good grief. When somebody joins the military, they swear to defend a document for which separation of church and state are a key tenet. This jerk isn't a "victim" because he came face to face with his own lie.
It would be like a Secret Service agent suddenly deciding his "conscience" wouldn't let him protect a President from the other party; we'd wonder why the hell the idiot joined in the first place.
al-Qaeda was also "admirably candid and very clear" about the exact same belief system. Their beliefs, which are not in any way kept secret, are the problem.
Hasan was airing an important debate
I agree with Sullivan; this is true.
The debate between liberty and tyranny is very important. And one side if this debate is clearly morally right, while the other is clearly morally wrong, i.e. evil.
Posted by: sandy burger at November 10, 2009 12:22 PM (MT+0i)
Hasan would have been first in line to push a wall on Sullivan, per Islamic law, and the Virtual Gynecologist is defending the murderous scumbag.
We live in an era in which parody will become extinct.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at November 10, 2009 12:22 PM (W54Uh)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 10, 2009 12:23 PM (GhHQb)
According to the Left, dissent is still patriotic...if you're anything except a conservative/Christian.
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 12:23 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: Max Power at November 10, 2009 12:24 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 10, 2009 12:24 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: TC at November 10, 2009 12:25 PM (QXKjZ)
"The lecture almost reads like a cry for help, rather than a warning."
And a phrase like that could qualify as a overused to the extreme cliche' with only a a couple more usages.
What a maroon!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 10, 2009 12:25 PM (RkRxq)
Posted by: A. Sullivan at November 10, 2009 12:25 PM (SPSOE)
Posted by: A. Sullivan at November 10, 2009 12:26 PM (SPSOE)
Posted by: John ryan at November 10, 2009 12:26 PM (m0Q2u)
If I was a political cartoonist, I'd draw a cartoon of Gen Casey and Obama standing over Hasan's hospital bed and putting a pillow over his face.
Something tells me they don't want this jihadi waking up.
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 12:26 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at November 10, 2009 12:26 PM (i3PJU)
Posted by: ed at November 10, 2009 12:27 PM (Urhve)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 10, 2009 12:28 PM (yUybe)
'Power Glutes' Sullivan's a catcher, not a pitcher.
Posted by: nickless at November 10, 2009 12:28 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: nickless at November 10, 2009 12:29 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: A. Sullivan at November 10, 2009 12:29 PM (SPSOE)
>>According to the Left, dissent is still patriotic...if you're anything except a conservative/Christian...Posted by: Tweet..
If the military is now too PC to protect its own troops from Islamic fanatics on its own soil, how can we be sure it can protect the rest of us?Oh, don't worry, that's not at all what this administration intends from the military. Just think about what Napolitano and others have said -- right wing terrorists (i.e. freedom loving Americans, former military and police, etc) are the threat -- that's where you can expect the military to be used on its own soil.
The 1991 plan of the Muslim Brotherhood to take down the West from within is right on schedule. If we don't collectively get our heads out of the sand we will all be praying to Allah five times a day. Islam is NOT a religion of peace, it is a totalitarian fascist ideology EXACTLY LIKE NAZISM but with the added bonus of a barbarian "religion". The Left loves dictators, communists, marxists, etc., which is why they can't seem to figure out that the problem IS Islam!
The Fort Hood atrocity is NOT a terrorist act as long as Obama is in office.
Posted by: sickinmass at November 10, 2009 12:30 PM (rYWEB)
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at November 10, 2009 12:30 PM (wRw+B)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 10, 2009 12:31 PM (DIYmd)
Palin's uterus?
.
What? Name for me two other things that Andrew has deemed "important debates" besides Palin's uterus or, dare I say, uterii -
her doctor hasn't released Palin's medical records.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 10, 2009 12:31 PM (ruzrP)
Posted by: MPFS Indentured Fish Stick to the State at November 10, 2009 12:33 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 10, 2009 12:34 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: sandy burger at November 10, 2009 12:35 PM (MT+0i)
Posted by: A. Sullivan at November 10, 2009 12:35 PM (SPSOE)
Posted by: DEATH to Moby Dick at November 10, 2009 12:35 PM (KOkrW)
Posted by: Def Leppard at November 10, 2009 12:36 PM (hIOnV)
"If I was a political cartoonist, I'd draw a cartoon"
a daisey chain including the Dims, big media, unions, AssCORNs, Andrew, Bwarny, the Wook, and lo ........... B Hussein Obama, led all the rest.
Posted by: MDr at November 10, 2009 12:36 PM (ucq49)
the manson family cutting open Susan Tate's womb while she was still breathing and painting the walls with her blood?
cry for help
Posted by: DEATH to Moby Dick at November 10, 2009 12:37 PM (KOkrW)
Oh, and for those of you always griping about the ONT, here's a clue, don't read it. If something interesting happens overnight Ace or one of the other co-bloggers usually manages to get a post up about it (Prejean sex tape anyone?) so that it can be discussed somewhere other than the "7th grade slumber party" that you perceive the ONT to be.
Otherwise, really, I think you can go 6-8 hours at Ace without having a place to post about the far more important topics like fruit bat sex, that come up during the day.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 10, 2009 12:39 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Jazz at November 10, 2009 12:39 PM (hnq5i)
If the military is now too PC to protect its own troops from Islamic fanatics on its own soil, how can we be sure it can protect the rest of us?
I'm not so sure they can. Well, at least not effectively as once before. My confidence in the Pentagon, at Langley, and at the CIA is broken.
Rush put it perfectly, today: Hasan wasn't under the radar, he was on stage.
Hasan wasn't hiding his jihadism; he wasn't being sneaky. So the only conclusion I can draw is that the Army dismissed his rantings as good ol' fashion dissent, which of course is patritoic, as we all know.
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 12:39 PM (KHma2)
OK Kilgroe, go spit in the sink and get back to work
Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at November 10, 2009 12:40 PM (sYxEE)
Anyone remember Andrew Sullivan's annoying pledge week drives?
You know, the ones where readers would be exhorted to raise over $100,000 so that Andy and his his gay lover could travel to the Hamptons in style for "website maintenance"?
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at November 10, 2009 12:41 PM (wRw+B)
Oh, and for those of you always griping about the ONT, here's a clue, don't read it. If something interesting happens overnight Ace or one of the other co-bloggers usually manages to get a post up about it (Prejean sex tape anyone?) so that it can be discussed somewhere other than the "7th grade slumber party" that you perceive the ONT to be.
God, I miss sleeping with 7th graders
Posted by: Roman Polanski at November 10, 2009 12:42 PM (e8YaH)
A cry for help.
Give me fifteen minutes with your sorry, sloppy ass and you'll be crying for help.
Posted by: John Holmes (dead but still hard) at November 10, 2009 12:43 PM (3IqBS)
Posted by: fluffy at November 10, 2009 12:43 PM (4Kl5M)
The Great Liberal Paradox:
Unborn child who happens to be not wanted by his mother = something to be hated and feared and killed with poison and knives.
Terrorist = a person who is only to be pitied, because, after all, we Evil Amerikkkans are responsible for all his suffering.
I will never, ever understand these people. Ever.
Posted by: Angry Beaver at November 10, 2009 12:43 PM (AsEil)
Posted by: maverick muse at November 10, 2009 12:44 PM (+CLh/)
Posted by: Johnny I at November 10, 2009 12:44 PM (TItTf)
Sullivan has looked at Hasan's PowerPoint with an open mind, and described it as something that Robert Spencer might have said about Islam. Hasan's imam Awlaki agreed with it too or else he wouldn't have blessed it.
I've gone through the powerpoint, and I can report that it accurately describes how observant Muslims read their literature and apply it to their dealings with Western institutions (like a secular Army).
I don't much like sharing a bed with Sullivan, Spencer, Awlaki, and Hasan but sometimes, you know...
Posted by: Zimriel at November 10, 2009 12:44 PM (yt2K4)
Here's a quick and easy way to point out the dishonesty in Sullivan's argument:
Imagine a pro-life activist flipping out and killing everyone in a planned parenthood office because he was "forced" to pass by it every day on his way to work. That guy's an evil scumbag, obviously.
Hasan, though, because he's a member of a protected victims' group, gets a pass.
So many of the liberals' operating beliefs just don't stand up to close scrutiny. It's one of the reasons I started to drift away from their ranks.
Posted by: Spud at November 10, 2009 12:45 PM (iaMr2)
Oh, and for those of you always griping about the ONT, here's a clue, don't read it.
Thanks for the advice, girl genius.
Now let me explain why your solution sucks. In the morning, there's a bunch of *old* regulars who have things to say. But all we have as a venue for our vents, rants, and tips is the ONT that has 700-1000 comments on it already.
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 12:46 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: Che Pizza at November 10, 2009 12:47 PM (SPSOE)
If Ace or someone could make it so a post goes up automatically at midnight for the rest of us who don't feel like partaking in the 7th grade slumber party that is the ONT.
You want us to discuss serious subjects late at night, after alcohol consumption - living dangerously there, huh?
Posted by: Mallamutt at November 10, 2009 12:48 PM (V9SYy)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 12:49 PM (erIg9)
It's possible for a sick-in-the-head slob also to be inhuman and evil. Sullivan's working the former angle. Maybe it can help other people before they do something stupid (although suicide is the more common way these things end up).
Posted by: Zimriel at November 10, 2009 12:49 PM (yt2K4)
Now let me explain why your solution sucks. In the morning, there's a bunch of *old* regulars who have things to say. But all we have as a venue for our vents, rants, and tips is the ONT that has 700-1000 comments on it already.
Well, there is the Morning Headline. And be nice to PGIS, o.k.
Posted by: Mallamutt at November 10, 2009 12:49 PM (V9SYy)
Posted by: Seriously at November 10, 2009 12:51 PM (5x8Tr)
No no no.
For the morning morons, morons. You know, people who are here at 6am and don't feel like putting there sober and cogent and relevant comments at the bottom of 900+ stinky comments that probably would fail the "black light" test, if you know what I imply, and I believe you do.
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 12:52 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 12:53 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at November 10, 2009 12:53 PM (IQWiJ)
Well, Tweet, I kind of figured that about 2 seconds after I posted at 110. So yeah, prob. need to start the Morning Headline thread earlier.
Posted by: Mallamutt at November 10, 2009 12:55 PM (V9SYy)
Posted by: andi sullivan (LGBT) at November 10, 2009 12:56 PM (AZGON)
I'm not so sure they can. Well, at least not effectively as once before. My confidence in the Pentagon, at Langley, and at the CIA is broken.
Rush put it perfectly, today: Hasan wasn't under the radar, he was on stage.
Hasan wasn't hiding his jihadism; he wasn't being sneaky. So the only conclusion I can draw is that the Army dismissed his rantings as good ol' fashion dissent, which of course is patritoic, as we all know.
One of my friends told me that when the FBI came to investigate my background for my military clearance, the first question they asked was if they knew whether I had ever threatened the uniformed services or the US government amoung other similar inquiries. If any one of them would have been answered to the affirmative, I wouldn't have gotten a clearance as well as being discharged from the service. Is it just me, or has anyone else asked themselves if perhaps any of these same-minded jihadis are officers in any of our military nuclear operations?
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 12:58 PM (3IqBS)
Unabomber's manifesto - cry for help
Zodiac Killer's taunting letters - cry for help
Andi Sullivan's personal ad while having HIV - cry for help
Posted by: polynikes at November 10, 2009 12:58 PM (m2CN7)
Gee, if he wasn't "necessarily an Islamic fanatic," and if Islam entails a "total rejection of separation of [mosque] and state," does that mean that Sullivan believes that ALL Muslims are ticking time bombs ready to burst into sudden jihad? That NO Muslim who truly believes in his religion can honor the oath of a U.S. military officer to protect and defend the Constitution?
The Torah defines a form of Judaism that rejects separation of temple and state. The Catholic Church spent centuries rejecting the separation of church and state. Judaism and Christianity evolved and came to a world view that separates the political government of the temporal world from the mandates of the spiritual world. Interestingly, there are a number of Muslim countries where Islam has achieved a similar evolution, where leaders are elected by popular vote and not assigned by the religious authorities.
I think that any American Muslim, Christian or Jew who believes that the United States should become a theocracy, its Constitution replaced by Scripture, is by definition a fanatic. Maybe the problem for Sullivan and the Progressives and the Lamestream Media is that they have spent so long conflating all Christians with the most extreme and findamentalist Christian sects that they can't now admit that it's possible for some members of a faith to be extremist fanatics and yet the vast majority of the members of the same faith to be people grounded in allegiance to the American Constitutional republic.
Posted by: stuiec at November 10, 2009 12:58 PM (7AOgy)
Zimriel 109:
My point, which I believe is pretty self-evident, is that all this soul searching and thoughtful pondering about this idiot's pained, tormented psyche would not be happening had this been a Christian extremist.
Do you honestly believe we'd be told not to "jump to any conclusions" by President Hopenchange if the guy had yelled "Abortion is murder! Praise Jesus!" instead?
Posted by: Spud at November 10, 2009 12:59 PM (iaMr2)
Unabomber's manifesto dead and mutilated victims - cry for help
Zodiac Killer's taunting letters body count - cry for help
Andi Sullivan's personal ad while having HIV - cry for help
Posted by: polynikes at November 10, 2009 05:58 PM (m2CN7)
FIFY.
Posted by: stuiec at November 10, 2009 12:59 PM (7AOgy)
Agreed Tweet, maybe one of the East Coast co-bloggers should post the morning headlines thread since isn't Gabriel is out here on the West Coast? And our early morning is your middle of the day practically.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 10, 2009 01:00 PM (RZ8pf)
I don't believe he cried for help,. He shouted Allahu Akbar. Then he shot 40 people. Prolly some of the wounded cried for help.
Posted by: gus at November 10, 2009 01:00 PM (Vqruj)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 10, 2009 01:00 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: reason at November 10, 2009 01:01 PM (kZVsz)
Is it just me, or has anyone else asked themselves if perhaps any of these same-minded jihadis are officers in any of our military nuclear operations?
That's a scary thought.
And it brings to mind the movies Hunt For Red October and Crimson Tide.
What if we have a couple of jihadis on a nuclear sub...and they're officers?
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 01:01 PM (KHma2)
I must have missed something in my military career. I was under the impression that unlike enlisted personel, officers can simply resign their commission and walk away (like quickly, if they need to). What stinks to me is if this asshat didn't want to deploy, couldn't he have just resigned and gone and screwed goats for the rest of life?
But no, he need to make a statement about what a victim he and all the rest of the middle class americans born in shit town northern virginia are. How awful things are and how he had no way out other than murdering as many of the individuals he had sworn to lead, treat, and protect. What an asshole.
The worst part is that he didn't die, and not we get watch all the liberals and terrorist appeasers (BIRM) go to the ends of the earth to get this guy off and ensure that we all know that he is the real victim.
By the way, I creamed myself when i got to do a "BIRM".
Posted by: Murphy Bush at November 10, 2009 01:01 PM (0QkLg)
Posted by: NJconservative at November 10, 2009 01:03 PM (/Ywwg)
Posted by: nyc redneck at November 10, 2009 01:03 PM (l+h6k)
Posted by: reason at November 10, 2009 01:04 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 10, 2009 01:04 PM (r8/Km)
No Moronette calendar for you!
Posted by: KelliD at November 10, 2009 01:04 PM (Q9Cny)
I'm not sure, but I think posts can be set on a timer and published at pre-set times. I dunno if Pixy's software allows it here, though.
But anyway, it would be a good place for Ace or others to post a throw-away post that they didn't feel was post-worthy during the busy hours.
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 01:05 PM (KHma2)
Also, how come people like Sullivan, and Frank's boy toy and celebrities are always getting let off on the marijuana charges? I mean, I guess I understand why but seriously it is just another example that we've once again become a country of the "royal" class vs. the peasants.
Thanks founding fathers for the whole "no more kings" bit, but turns out in 230 or so years we've decided to create a new ruling class all on our own and allow ourselves to be governed by them in matters of politics, opinion, and taste.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 10, 2009 01:05 PM (RZ8pf)
The ONT does bring out some lurkers for shits and giggles. That's a good thing.
It has been evolving, so we'll see .. since it's an open thread, fell free to post whatever is on your mind. Sometimes it can be a lot of fun
Posted by: sickinmass at November 10, 2009 01:05 PM (rYWEB)
Posted by: toby928 at November 10, 2009 01:05 PM (PD1tk)
Nah. I think that if his parallel-universe double, Ludwig von Dousschebag, had given a powerpoint about the Great White Race before going on a spree, we would be ABLE to psychoanalyse him. "Cry for help" is a psychological term, and the reason it is is because it's a well-observed phenomenon.
We didn't have such a telegraphing of punches from that Von Brunn clown. Von Brunn posted to Stormfront, a friendly audience where no-one read him except other Nazis and Killgore Trout. He never, for instance, crashed a Holocaust conference and delivered a denial speech there.
Posted by: Zimriel at November 10, 2009 01:06 PM (yt2K4)
Sort of on/off topic, but isn't the DC Sniper supposed to die by lethal injection tonight at 9:00 p.m. EST?
Will the Muslim world rise up violently against us when we kill the scumbag? Oh, wait, they've already been doing that for 1400 years.
I suppose the useless jihadi fuck will be given clemency by Obama just before his execution, but I'm hoping not.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 10, 2009 01:06 PM (sZOIi)
Posted by: George Orwell at November 10, 2009 01:06 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Also a cry for help, or beer, either or at November 10, 2009 01:07 PM (PD1tk)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 10, 2009 01:08 PM (RZ8pf)
>>>It has been evolving...
lol, surely you jest, you silly jester
or: "Are you on the same AoSHQ??????"
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 01:09 PM (KHma2)
Good grief. When somebody joins the military, they swear to defend a document for which separation of church and state are a key tenet. This jerk isn't a "victim" because he came face to face with his own lie.
Posted by: sandy burger at November 10, 2009 05:22 PM (MT+0i)
While I agree with your last sentence, I took that oath several times and don't recall anything in it regarding "separation of church and state." I did, however, take the part about supporting and defending the constitution seriously. But that says nothing about separation of church and state.
Posted by: Bill R. at November 10, 2009 01:09 PM (EhlQq)
The ONT does bring out some lurkers for shits and giggles. That's a good thing.
It has been evolving, so we'll see .. since it's an open thread, fell free to post whatever is on your mind. Sometimes it can be a lot of fun
SUMMON THE METEORS
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 01:09 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: awkward davies at November 10, 2009 01:10 PM (wb68R)
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 01:10 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: Holdfast at November 10, 2009 01:10 PM (Gzb30)
Hasan was airing an important debate.
With a gun.
No problem. I mean, unless he was trying to air an important debate about gay marriage or abortion. That would be wrong.
Posted by: Isaah 9 at November 10, 2009 01:11 PM (Hsh+2)
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 06:10 PM (KHma2)
sounds like a cry for help to me.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 01:11 PM (erIg9)
If Hasan had waited a week before doing his jihadi thing, that might have been a real possibility. JugEars would have to have a political death wish to do that now.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 10, 2009 01:11 PM (r8/Km)
I appreciate the help officer Kimberly Munley shot out to Hasan. I only wish she had shot several magazines of hollowpoint help to the poor fellow.
Maybe a burly hospital orderly will be summoned to his bedside to give him the Pillow Over The Breathing Holes therapy he so desperately needs.
We can only hope.
Posted by: Spud at November 10, 2009 01:12 PM (iaMr2)
Sort of on/off topic, but isn't the DC Sniper supposed to die by lethal injection tonight at 9:00 p.m. EST?
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 01:12 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 10, 2009 01:12 PM (TfW4T)
Obama's cock must be getting very sore from all the oral stimulation he receives from the sycophant liberal scribbling brigade. Any old port cock in a storm.
Posted by: Fish at November 10, 2009 01:12 PM (6mfq0)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 10, 2009 01:13 PM (TfW4T)
Posted by: NJconservative at November 10, 2009 06:03 PM (/Ywwg)
Right. He decided his only two choices were to take out a loan or take out a few dozen of his fellow soldiers.
I kinda think he might have had a few other options.
Posted by: stuiec at November 10, 2009 01:13 PM (7AOgy)
Sort of on/off topic, but isn't the DC Sniper supposed to die by lethal injection tonight at 9:00 p.m. EST?
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 06:12 PM (KHma2)
I think we have a topic for the ONT!
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 01:14 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 01:14 PM (KHma2)
The thing I miss the most about ONT is that it was summer when I was an ONT zombie, so it was warm outside.
So, maybe it's not ONT, but summer, that I miss.
Also, I got to go out and pee in the yard alot.
Posted by: Truman North at November 10, 2009 01:15 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: gus at November 10, 2009 01:15 PM (Vqruj)
...sycophant liberal scribbling brigade...
Is this the proper name for Fruit Bat?
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 06:14 PM (KHma2)
Only for the semi-literate sub-species.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 01:15 PM (erIg9)
The ONT does bring out some lurkers for shits and giggles. That's a good thing.
It has been evolving, so we'll see .. since it's an open thread, fell free to post whatever is on your mind. Sometimes it can be a lot of fun
I love ONT's. They're funny (which in these days and times, I need a good laugh) and there are times when one can find a real "diamond in the rough" insight.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 01:15 PM (3IqBS)
I really don't want to talk about Tweet's nuts tonight, or any night for that matter. Feel free to knock yourself out though.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 10, 2009 01:16 PM (r8/Km)
I really don't want to talk about Tweet's nuts tonight, or any night for that matter. Feel free to knock yourself out though.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 10, 2009 06:16 PM (r8/Km)
was only the left one
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 01:17 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Chris Edwards at November 10, 2009 01:17 PM (SLcKc)
Posted by: Vince and the Slap Chop! at November 10, 2009 01:18 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 01:18 PM (3IqBS)
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 10, 2009 01:19 PM (oObEM)
Posted by: Zimriel at November 10, 2009 01:20 PM (yt2K4)
Expect T-shirts with this verminous Hasan sombitch's picture on it by next Christmas.
Posted by: sifty at November 10, 2009 01:20 PM (3lx4r)
Sort of on/off topic, but isn't the DC Sniper supposed to die by lethal injection tonight at 9:00 p.m. EST?
John Mohammed will be a rubber-legged whimpering ass when its time to man-up and walk to the execution chamber. Killing innocents from a distance tells me a lot about his character, and I hope he collapses into a convulsing heap, quivering with fear and forcing the jailers to carry his worthless ass into the chamber. The personification of evil and the consummate pussy. Good riddance.
Posted by: Fish at November 10, 2009 01:22 PM (6mfq0)
Zimster, Ace came to a different conclusion than you did, obviously.
I doubt he's gonna change a damn thing.
Posted by: Vince and the Slap Chop! at November 10, 2009 01:22 PM (KHma2)
Andrew and the Left have to make these arguments; the fact that they aren't good arguments is immaterial. They'll keep making them, and making them, and making them until we get their message. And their message is this: this is not Islamic terrorism, because when we put Demoncrats in charge, terrorism goes away because everyone loves us.
You just know the MSM is trying desperately to find evidence that Hassan voted for McCain.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 10, 2009 01:23 PM (eNxMU)
Posted by: sickinmass at November 10, 2009 01:23 PM (rYWEB)
Posted by: Tony Montana's Cry For Help at November 10, 2009 01:23 PM (SPSOE)
Does anyone know if that was the motorcade for some of the Ft. Hood folks?
My wife and I had tears in our eyes as we drove alongside.
Posted by: sifty at November 10, 2009 01:25 PM (3lx4r)
Posted by: curious at November 10, 2009 01:25 PM (p302b)
Posted by: polynikes at November 10, 2009 01:25 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: A. Sullivan at November 10, 2009 01:26 PM (SPSOE)
Posted by: That Chicken at November 10, 2009 01:26 PM (SPSOE)
In certain circles, "date" doesn't mean what it means for most people.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 10, 2009 01:26 PM (AlKlj)
Posted by: Charles Johnson's Rectum Walking Into the YMCA Showers at November 10, 2009 01:26 PM (iaMr2)
Posted by: curious at November 10, 2009 01:27 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Vince and the Slap Chop! at November 10, 2009 01:27 PM (KHma2)
Have you noticed ,Zimriel, that nobody is paying a fucking bit of attention to you?
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 01:27 PM (3IqBS)
Posted by: unknown jane at November 10, 2009 01:27 PM (5/yRG)
In this case Ace has reached a wrong conclusion, given the explicit content of Sullivan's piece. Given what we know of Sullivan's mental state, I'd say a primary motivation was a musing upon mental instability. Nothing to do with Obama here.
Posted by: Zimriel at November 10, 2009 01:28 PM (yt2K4)
I should have said "freedom of religion".
Posted by: sandy burger at November 10, 2009 01:28 PM (MT+0i)
Posted by: USA at November 10, 2009 01:28 PM (YZISw)
Sort of on/off topic, but isn't the DC Sniper supposed to die by lethal injection tonight at 9:00 p.m. EST?
I heard the Governor of VA didn't give him a stay of execution, so it looks like it's on, for now, anyways. Rush made the point that the media isn't covering this story much at all. However, whenever a Republican Governor of a state like TX is going to let someone fry, the media is there having a candlelight vigil. I hate the media.
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 01:28 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Zimriel at November 10, 2009 01:29 PM (yt2K4)
...sycophant liberal scribbling brigade...
Is this the proper name for Fruit Bat?
Posted by: Tweet at November 10, 2009 06:14 PM (KHma2)
And there you have it. They call us "teabaggers," we call them "fruit bats": the deeper and harder Obama screws them, the more they get their tongues into action.
Posted by: stuiec at November 10, 2009 01:30 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: USA at November 10, 2009 06:28 PM (YZISw)
Thanks for posting that (obviously, we won't be hearing any of that from the state controlled media). The NRO does some good work. Plus I heart Mark Steyn!
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 01:30 PM (qP2BK)
So what exactly do you agree with Sullivan on, Zim?
You read the lecture, was it a cry for help, thoughtful, or insightful, or all three?
Posted by: Vince and the Slap Chop! at November 10, 2009 01:30 PM (KHma2)
And there you have it. They call us "teabaggers," we call them "fruit bats": the deeper and harder Obama screws them, the more they get their tongues into action.
You morons always stay a step ahead of the curve! Awesome analogy, stuiec!
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 01:31 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Zimriel at November 10, 2009 06:20 PM (yt2K4)
Mr. Zimriel,
Mr. O'Spades is busy right now and has a very full schedule today. But if you take a seat, he might might be able to spare a few minutes for you.
So feel free to help yourself to a magazine or to go fuck yourself while you wait.
Posted by: Ace's Receptionist at November 10, 2009 01:32 PM (SPSOE)
Has a list of the casualties at Ft. Hood been posted anywhere? Were they all military or were any civilians?
I thought there was one civilian.
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 01:32 PM (qP2BK)
But I'm simple. There may be nuance that I can't grasp.
Posted by: sifty at November 10, 2009 01:34 PM (3lx4r)
by the way, did you happen to notice Sullivan specifically said it was not a warning?
Kinda funny Sullivan would do that if he wasn't deliberately trying to refute the charge that Hasan was setting off warning bells and sirens that were ignored by his superiors and intelligence officers, who just so happen to be under the responsibility of OBAMA.
Sullivan was spinning for Obama. This terror attack, which could have and should have been prevented, happened under Obama's watch.
Posted by: Vince and the Slap Chop! at November 10, 2009 01:36 PM (KHma2)
In this case Ace has reached a wrong conclusion, given the explicit content of Sullivan's piece. Given what we know of Sullivan's mental state, I'd say a primary motivation was a musing upon mental instability. Nothing to do with Obama here.
Posted by: Zimriel at November 10, 2009 06:28 PM (yt2K4
Are you Axelrod's sock?
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 01:37 PM (3IqBS)
I found this slide show at ABC earlier.
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 01:37 PM (9Wv2j)
FACT: Islam is incompatible with a free society. Disagree? Give me an example.
We have hate crimes legislation against racism, why not call seditious behavior a "hate crime against America", with serious penalties, including incarceration. In war, the military has executed traitors by firing squad. I hope this is what is in store for this terrorist. I won't cry.
Posted by: sickinmass at November 10, 2009 01:38 PM (rYWEB)
Posted by: A. Sullivan at November 10, 2009 01:40 PM (SPSOE)
Posted by: Bill R. at November 10, 2009 01:40 PM (EhlQq)
Posted by: unknown jane at November 10, 2009 01:42 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: gus at November 10, 2009 01:42 PM (Vqruj)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 10, 2009 01:42 PM (w41GQ)
Odd, I hadn't read anywhere that he'd even ASKED for one.
Posted by: GarandFan at November 10, 2009 01:43 PM (ZQBnQ)
Maybe I should just become a fucking luddite and stop coming online because the type of shit that a lowlife like Thully is writing raises my blood pressure significantly. If I was a friend or relative of any of the deceased I think I'd completely lose it. Do any of those fucking simpletons have editors to tell them to STFU about this stuff?
(Deep sigh!) Captain Hate, obviously, you lack the intellectual ability and perspacacity to grasp the subtle nuance of the sophisticated musings of a brilliant mind like Mr. Sullivan. I hate to break the news to you, but you already are a luddite. You sir, who cling bitterly to your guns, religion, and teabags, have no right to question the brilliant and cogent postulations of Mr. Sullivan. I implore you to attempt to open that closed off closet of a mind you possess, and start embracing the rich, diverse mind thoughts of your betters.
Posted by: Sully's Spheroidal Sphincter at November 10, 2009 01:45 PM (qP2BK)
In war, the military has executed traitors by firing squad. I hope this is what is in store for this terrorist. I won't cry.
Hang them. For some reason islamic terrorists hate to be hanged. They want to be shot. An allah or a virgin thing me thinks.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 01:46 PM (3IqBS)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at November 10, 2009 01:48 PM (i3PJU)
If Hasan recovers, they, (and you know who they are), will say we can't execute Hasan because then he will become a martyr...and...(say it with me, y'all)..
that'll just create more terrorists...
not that Hasan is a terrorist, of course.
The Left will be tripping over their little dicks keeping Hasan off death row.
/nods
Posted by: Vince and the Slap Chop! at November 10, 2009 01:51 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: David Brooks at November 10, 2009 01:52 PM (5x8Tr)
Posted by: eatingnarcissus at November 10, 2009 01:54 PM (4FkTt)
Heh! More blue on blue violence:
A group of prominent gay-rights bloggers, activists, and fundraisers, led by AMERICAblogGAY, is launching a boycott on contributions to the Democratic National Committee and Obama's campaign apparatus: We are asking voters to pledge to withhold contributions to the Democratic National Committee, Organizing for America, and the Obama campaign until the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) is passed, Dont Ask Dont Tell (DADT) is repealed, and the so-called Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) is repealed - all of which President Obama repeatedly promised to do if elected....Democrats should not have promised to support gay civil rights rights in exchange for our votes if they never intended to keep the promise. If we're not controversial during the campaign, when politicians are happy to accept our votes and our money, we cannot accept being labeled controversial after our candidates win. We kept our part of the bargain, we voted for Barack Obama and a Democratic Congress. Its entirely reasonable for us to ask our elected officials to keep their part of the bargain too.Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 01:57 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 10, 2009 01:58 PM (MFbfZ)
To these fucks, Hasan killed a bunch of baby killing bullies, and they like it. They are too stupid to realize that Hasan would have gleefully gunned them down too.
Posted by: elliot at November 10, 2009 01:59 PM (ephyK)
Posted by: Hillary "Bill doesn't fuck me anymore" Clinton at November 10, 2009 02:00 PM (3IqBS)
They are too stupid to realize that Hasan would have gleefully gunned them down too.
They would gladly die for the Hasans and Teddy Kennedys of this world,
Posted by: maverick muse at November 10, 2009 02:02 PM (+CLh/)
Why his female co-workers and patients had to be subjected to such a pig at the workplace is beyond me.
Posted by: Short-nosed fruit bats at November 10, 2009 02:03 PM (sey23)
Posted by: Y-not at November 10, 2009 02:04 PM (sey23)
Time to sack DC and move the seat of government to the heartland.
Posted by: pam at November 10, 2009 02:04 PM (h8R9p)
Posted by: lorien1973 at November 10, 2009 02:05 PM (ZXnUe)
"the deeper and harder Obama screws them, the more they get their tongues into action."
Assuming we're talking about ObaMao's faithfully followers - as Dennis Leary said, they like to be licked from their crack to their sac.
Just sayin'
Posted by: MDr at November 10, 2009 02:08 PM (ucq49)
Me too. But I am consoled by the fact that they moved to the right.
If they'd moved to the left, I would be rocking in a corner somewhere.
Posted by: Y-not at November 10, 2009 02:08 PM (sey23)
Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 10, 2009 02:09 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: nikkolai at November 10, 2009 02:09 PM (U0lNn)
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 10, 2009 02:10 PM (MFbfZ)
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 10, 2009 02:12 PM (C51o4)
Posted by: klaatu at November 10, 2009 02:13 PM (hwC/7)
Time to sack DC and move the seat of government to the heartland
Either North Dakota or Borger, TX.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 02:14 PM (3IqBS)
Jeez, when did that happen? They were in their regular place earlier today.
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 02:14 PM (9Wv2j)
Remember, morons, we don't know the motives behind this attack, so don't jump to conclusions.
But we're certain that ALL the people at Tea Parties are there because we have a black president.
Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 10, 2009 02:15 PM (KHma2)
HEY
The Webblog Awards are back. Go to this page, scroll down about 3/4 the page. look for Ace's website in the comments section and click the green button with the plus sign. Blogs with most votes will get into the Best Blog Category.
It's the least you can do. No seriously it is the least you cheapskates can do.
http://www.tinyurl.com/yfttlyk
Please coy and paste this into newer threads.
Also if you vote for LGF, let me know so I can tea bag you.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:15 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: Andi Sullivan at November 10, 2009 02:16 PM (C51o4)
Posted by: Andi Sullivan at November 10, 2009 02:16 PM (C51o4)
i think Blazer nomitated him. so did some others
he is behind weaker blogs right now. We need to help
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:17 PM (bftbi)
Nah. There'll be a liberal JAG lawyer in bed with him when he wakes up.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 02:19 PM (3IqBS)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at November 10, 2009 02:19 PM (kn+jW)
HEY
The Webblog Awards are back. Go to this page, scroll down about 3/4 the page. look for Ace's website in the comments section and click the green button with the plus sign. Blogs with most votes will get into the Best Blog Category.
It's the least you can do. No seriously it is the least you cheapskates can do.
I think Blazer nominated him in the comments. Do not add a comment suggesting Ace, they don't want multiple comments for the same site. Just scroll down til you see Blazer's comment suggest AoSHQ and click the green button
http://www.tinyurl.com/yfttlyk
Please copy and paste this into newer threads.
Also if you vote for LGF, let me know so I can tea bag you.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:21 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: Tweet beats dead horses at November 10, 2009 02:22 PM (KHma2)
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 10, 2009 02:22 PM (MFbfZ)
Posted by: goodrichard at November 10, 2009 02:23 PM (lmH9N)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 10, 2009 02:23 PM (1TXeC)
Nah. There'll be a liberal JAG lawyer in bed with him when he wakes up.
Correction. There'll be a liberal muslim/jihadi JAG lawyer in bed with him when he wakes up.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 02:25 PM (3IqBS)
Posted by: goodrichard at November 10, 2009 07:23 PM (lmH9N)
But only the military service members, so it's all right.
Posted by: stuiec at November 10, 2009 02:26 PM (7AOgy)
Oh fer cris'sake, what's next? Is AG Holder going to announce that he's going to be tried as a juvenile because of his arrested emotional development?
He's an adult, for crying out loud, one with the wherewithal to graduate from medical school. Adults face conflicts, and they deal with them. Sometimes conflicting forces are impossible to reconcile and we deal with that too without shooting forty people.
Why did he do it? I don't care. What I care about is who this guy's friends are. I want his former coworkers to get mortally intimate with them.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 10, 2009 02:26 PM (Vl5GH)
You can find AoS at November 6, 2009 1:28 pm
Also, November 6, 2009 3:54 pm
November 7, 2009 6:08 am
Click 'em all.
You're welcome.
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 02:26 PM (9Wv2j)
HEY
The Webblog Awards are back. Go to this page, scroll down about 3/4 the page. look for Ace's website in the comments section and click the green button with the plus sign.
It's the least you can do. No seriously it is the least you cheapskates can do.
Best Blog
http://www.tinyurl.com/yfttlyk
Best Conservative Blog
http://www.tinyurl.com/ydq7u43
Please copy and paste this into newer threads.
Ok I added Consertive blog vote to this one. I see many of you commented and voted. this iis for the people who didn't.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:28 PM (bftbi)
OT: so there are some interesting unemployment figures out (in the NY Times, via National Review's The Corner). White college-educated women between 25 and 44 years of age have an unemployment rate of less than 4 percent. Unemployment for Black men ages 15 to 24 without a high school diploma stands at 48.8 percent.
Barack Obama hates young Black men.
Posted by: stuiec at November 10, 2009 02:29 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:29 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: Bwany Fwank at November 10, 2009 02:29 PM (mQJDo)
Also if you vote for LGF, let me know so I can tea bag you.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009Many of us are voting for LGF under the Best Liberal Blog category.
It's driving the Kos kids nuts.
Don't forget Blackfive in the mil blog section.
You know what's funny? There's no category for Best Moderate Blog, even though we are constantly told how important they are.
Posted by: Bailey Barksand Piddles at November 10, 2009 02:30 PM (sey23)
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:31 PM (bftbi)
I's not really that funny when he really IS a salad tosser.
Posted by: Navin R Johnson says listen to Motorhead at November 10, 2009 02:32 PM (jyEfB)
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 02:33 PM (qP2BK)
You know what's funny? There's no category for Best Moderate Blog, even though we are constantly told how important they are.
Bwhahaha!
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 02:34 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Bailey Barksand Piddles at November 10, 2009 07:30 PM (sey23)
I like the cut of your jib, Piddles!
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 02:35 PM (9Wv2j)
Also if you vote for LGF, let me know so I can tea bag you.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009
Many of us are voting for LGF under the Best Liberal Blog category.
It's driving the Kos kids nuts.
Don't forget Blackfive in the mil blog section.
You know what's funny? There's no category for Best Moderate Blog, even though we are constantly told how important they are.
yeah i noticed, and votes for him a few times, CJ that is, he has more votes than anyone in the liberal section. I will hit up black five as well
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:35 PM (bftbi)
Unemployment for Black men ages 15 to 24 without a high school diploma stands at 48.8 percent.
That is a staggering statistic stuiec! Course it will remain buried. Can you imagine if John McCain were President now? Then it really would be John McCain hates poor, young black men.
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 02:36 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at November 10, 2009 07:19 PM (kn+jW)
Isn't that just incredible? It makes my blood absolutely boil.
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 02:37 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Harry Reid at November 10, 2009 02:40 PM (mQJDo)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 02:40 PM (9Wv2j)
I wonder if shit-head was inspired by this? (About "Allahu akbar" being the new "cry for help".)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2009 02:44 PM (2qU2d)
"In a country of 300 million people, there are going to be acts of violence that are inexplicable. Even within the extraordinary military that we have -- and I think everybody understands how outstanding the young men and women in uniform are under the most severe stress -- there are going to be instances in which an individual cracks."...................
Its no wonder everybodys hooked on this PTSD excuse:
* It works for Obama by making this a crime and not The First Terror Attack since 9/11.
* It works for Hasan by giving him an insanity defense. (Assume for a
moment that Sandy Berger will not be dispatched to the hospital to put
a pillow over Hasans face.)
* It works for the Army so they dont have to look at how their diversity cringe gave Hasan a pass.
* It works for the Media because it protects Obama and lets them keep
saying Coulda happened to anybodyheck, he might as well have been
Amish.
* It works for the anti-victory crowd by saying Bush broke the Army and vets are all damaged kooksjust like Nam, man!
* And it works for the federal agencies Obama had eavesdropping on Hasan before they decided it was No Big Deal. You cant expect them to take seriously the writings of a nut, can you? Besides quoting Mao, I mean?
This Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder is the Holy Grail of Official Narratives(tm). It slices, it dices. Its a breakfast cereal, its a floor polish! It does it all, baby!
It will be interesting to see who gave the orders to ignore Hasans e-mails. And to see if Hasan is tried in a military setting after Obama has bashed military justice for so long.
But there is one other narrative that must be observed at all times, The Prime Narrative(tm):
Its Not Obamas Fault.Posted by: Noel at November 10, 2009 02:45 PM (Hh13R)
Posted by: torabora at November 10, 2009 02:49 PM (mQJDo)
Intercourse you, English.
Posted by: amish terrorist at November 10, 2009 02:49 PM (2qU2d)
Sullivan would not fair well under sharia and his audition for the Man from Stockholm isn't his best work.
Homo say what?
Posted by: Iskandar at November 10, 2009 02:50 PM (u1pln)
Posted by: USA at November 10, 2009 02:50 PM (YZISw)
I can't get beyond the fact that Hasan was giving out business card ID'ing him as "S of A" Soldier of Allah!
Today's Army!
Dare we ask the question: How many US soldiers have calling cards identifying themselves as Soldiers of Allah?
I hope Lieberman asks the question.
General Patton must be spinning in his grave
to be honest, would you have know what SOA meant on a business card? They give out so many new worthless degrees at colleges, I would have just assumed it was one of them
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:52 PM (bftbi)
This Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder is the Holy Grail of Official Narratives(tm). It slices, it dices. Its a breakfast cereal, its a floor polish! It does it all, baby!
I hate to say this, because I really am against frivolous litigation, but I really do hope that the families and survivors of this terrorist attack pursue some kind of class action suit against the government. (Didn't people do that after 9/11?) This incident is so much worse because 9/11 already happened and we know who our enemy is. The fact that the government has been culpable in the deaths and injuries of the people who were attacked in Fort Hood makes it even worse. The main job of the government is national security. The politically correct agenda embraced by our government is killing people and making national security a joke. Unless something changes, more people are going to die. (Sorry, my bold is stuck on!) Nothing usually changes unless it involves the payment of big sums of money and outraged people.
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 02:52 PM (qP2BK)
"Also if you vote for LGF, let me know so I can tea bag you."
Done sweetie. I can not tell a lie. I voted for Chuckie.
Lovingly your
The man gargler
Andrew
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at November 10, 2009 02:52 PM (ucq49)
The headline thing moving freaked me out too. At first I thought there was a commenter named 'New Prosthetic hand"
Geez, leave for a couple of hours and Ace rearranges the furniture so you trip over the couch when you come home drunk!
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 10, 2009 02:54 PM (RZ8pf)
That means Khalid Sheik Mohammed should be confined at the State Mental Hospital until psychiatrists say he safely integrate into American society; a process that usually takes, two, maybe three weeks.
Hasan's a shrink--maybe he could evaluate KSM for us!
The point is, if this is mental illness, then we aren't fighting terrorism--we're in the War on Craziness. ALL of them are "cracked" by this standard.
Posted by: Noel at November 10, 2009 02:55 PM (Hh13R)
Haha, somebody wrote an enthusiastic and apparently sincere comment/paean/review of AoS under the "best small blog" category.
i read that. it was funny. I didn't think Ace was a small blog. I pictured him more as a mid sized sedan
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:56 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 02:56 PM (nxUYP)
Nothing usually changes unless it involves the payment of big sums of money and outraged people.
Maybe this is what the "stimulus" was really for.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 02:58 PM (3IqBS)
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 02:58 PM (qP2BK)
-NYT quoting a muslim soldier as saying the WoT was like the Civil War and how he 'didn't want to stain Islam by killing muslims'
-And Hasan holding forth about how muslims should be released as conscientious objectors rather than be forced to fight muslims
I'm beginning to think that maybe Hasan was right about that. Kick them out.
They're soldiers. They balk at orders. Thus they aren't good soldiers.
They've a hierarchy of who counts as a human being and who they can kill without qualm. Not the kind of person fit for my nation's service.
Blackball the lot.
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 10, 2009 02:58 PM (hCQG5)
"Also if you vote for LGF, let me know so I can tea bag you."
Done sweetie. I can not tell a lie. I voted for Chuckie.
Lovingly your
The man gargler
Andrew
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:59 PM (bftbi)
"Also if you vote for LGF, let me know so I can tea bag you."
Done sweetie. I can not tell a lie. I voted for Chuckie.
Lovingly your
The man gargler
Andrew
Shit. Well that back fired, but a promise is a promise.
Speaking of tea bag, did anyone see Bill Clinton used the phrase "teabaggers". Its funny because before the tea party movement started I used to refer to him as Former President Teabagger
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 02:59 PM (bftbi)
Well, andi and Cahrsel Jhonsno would still see her point.
Posted by: kbdabear at November 10, 2009 03:00 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: katya at November 10, 2009 03:01 PM (Ejm4Y)
I'm beginning to think that maybe Hasan was right about that. Kick them out.
They're soldiers. They balk at orders. Thus they aren't good soldiers.
They've a hierarchy of who counts as a human being and who they can kill without qualm. Not the kind of person fit for my nation's service.
Heh! Heh! (rubbing hands together). Our evil plan is coming to fruition. Destroy the world's greatest military from the inside out. Never let a good crisis go to waste....
Posted by: Rahm, Axe, and Soros, The Evil Triumverate at November 10, 2009 03:01 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Rahm, Axe, and Soros, The Evil Triumverate at November 10, 2009 03:02 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:06 PM (nxUYP)
Speaking of tea bag, did anyone see Bill Clinton used the phrase "teabaggers". Its funny because before the tea party movement started I used to refer to him as Former President Teabagger
Yes, Bill was out there today doing the Dark Lord's work. He met with Blue dogs and told them not to fear the Teabaggers. He said the only reason he lost the midterm elections was because he didn't get health care legislation passed. Now the funny thing is, The Bamster asked him to do this. I think Bill was only too happy to oblige. Because when the crap hits the fan, and the Democratic party gets a backlash of poop, Bill will be not be able to contain his glee. Barry's destroying the Democrat party, and Bill knows it. So when the Dems are scattered in pieces, they will need someone to put them all back together. Hmm, I wonder who that could be?
Posted by: Rahm, Axe, and Soros, The Evil Triumverate at November 10, 2009 03:07 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 03:07 PM (9Wv2j)
"Also if you vote for LGF, let me know so I can tea bag you."
Done sweetie. I can not tell a lie. I voted for Chuckie.
Lovingly your
The man gargler
Andrew
You're just so pretty and special, Andy.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at November 10, 2009 03:07 PM (3IqBS)
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 03:07 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Andi, just call me fisty Sullivan at November 10, 2009 03:09 PM (nxUYP)
Damn, the comments just got all screwed up. It appears to be Ben's fault.
shit. i was hoping that it was just my computer, but it appears i've destroyed ace's site.
ah chicken, i wish i could stop
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 03:09 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 07:31 PM (bftbi)
How you doin?
Posted by: Andi Sullivan at November 10, 2009 03:09 PM (MFbfZ)
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 03:10 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: Sock at November 10, 2009 03:11 PM (3IqBS)
Uh oh, were Barack's trouser creases less sharp today? David Brooks in the NYT is actually decrying the way the Fort Hood Massacre has been covered in the media:
The conversation in the first few days after the massacre was well intentioned, but it suggested a willful flight from reality. It ignored the fact that the war narrative of the struggle against Islam is the central feature of American foreign policy. It ignored the fact that this narrative can be embraced by a self-radicalizing individual in the U.S. as much as by groups in Tehran, Gaza or Kandahar.
It denied, before the evidence was in, the possibility of evil. It sought to reduce a heinous act to social maladjustment. It wasnt the reaction of a morally or politically serious nation.
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 03:11 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 08:10 PM (bftbi)
Speaking of which, Ben: XYZPDQ!
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 03:12 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Andi, just call me fisty Sullivan at November 10, 2009 03:13 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:14 PM (nxUYP)
Darn sock! Ban all socks!
I don't like the anti-sock tone of your post. Please contact my office immediately!
Posted by: Maxine Waters, Defender of Downtrodden Socks and Sock Minorities at November 10, 2009 03:14 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:15 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: runningrn at November 10, 2009 03:16 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: somejoe at November 10, 2009 03:17 PM (SSWdi)
i am so freaking embarrased that i broke the blog.
on another note check out HA, apparently david brooks cant even believe the whitewashing of Hasan. When you lose david brooks you've lost the nicely creased pants crowd.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 03:17 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: System Administrator at November 10, 2009 03:20 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: somejoe at November 10, 2009 03:21 PM (SSWdi)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 03:23 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 10, 2009 03:24 PM (MFbfZ)
Posted by: System Administrator at November 10, 2009 03:26 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:26 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 03:27 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 10, 2009 03:31 PM (MFbfZ)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 03:34 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 10, 2009 03:36 PM (bcRFr)
She needs to take care of that pit 5 o'clock shadow. Other than that, kinda hot.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:36 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Rahm, Axe, and Soros, The Evil Triumverate at November 10, 2009 08:07 PM (qP2BK)
You might be giving Slick too much credit; he was never what you would call a godsend in terms of helping out any donk other than Muffer Stalin-Rodham. In fact Clenis has been sounding really weird lately; not sure if it's residual effects of his heart attack or a bunch of untreated STDs, but his voice has been like a cross between Dhimmi Carter (who sounds like he's talking in some weird hick baby talk) and Walter Brennan.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 10, 2009 03:37 PM (oObEM)
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 10, 2009 03:37 PM (MFbfZ)
"Catholic fruit bat ghey guys suck a lot of dick, and only some feel guilty about it afterwards".
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:38 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: New Prosthetic hand at November 10, 2009 03:40 PM (MT+0i)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 08:27 PM (9Wv2j)
I'd bet cash money that Pres'Ent Toonces doesn't eat bacon.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 03:40 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 10, 2009 03:40 PM (bcRFr)
haha
I was riffing off Winston's immediately preceding comment. Call it poetic license if you like.
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 03:41 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:41 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: YRM at November 10, 2009 03:42 PM (xNw7B)
on another note check out HA, apparently david brooks cant even believe the whitewashing of Hasan. When you lose david brooks you've lost the nicely creased pants crowd.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 08:17 PM (bftbi)
Nice head fake, Ben, but we all know what you did!
Posted by: Mobs of Mad Morons at November 10, 2009 03:43 PM (qP2BK)
Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 10, 2009 03:43 PM (bcRFr)
Posted by: CNN,ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC at November 10, 2009 03:44 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 03:44 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: President Pantywaist at November 10, 2009 03:44 PM (GaTkJ)
I'll lay ten that when he went to Five Guys with Brian Williams he induced vomiting immediately afterward.
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 10, 2009 03:45 PM (MFbfZ)
Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 10, 2009 03:46 PM (bcRFr)
Shit.
I went to watch some V, hoped when I came back everything would be solved. I guess it only works when your 10.
Shit there is no way to hide the fact that i somehow destroyed the comments thread. its not like i'm some hacker. i'm borderline full retard. this was purely an accident.
Even dum dum didn't do this kind of damage.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 03:46 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: curious at November 10, 2009 03:47 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 03:47 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: chris999 at November 10, 2009 03:47 PM (B/WwP)
Posted by: toby928 at November 10, 2009 03:48 PM (PD1tk)
omg, remember when Tookie was executed and all those crazy fuckers said crazy shit in front of the cameras?
oh how they were soooo upset and how they were gonna make people pay for such a gross miscarriage of justice. And Arnold pretty much told them to fuck off. Damn, Arnold was good that day.
yeah, that was a good night for justice and our civilization.
Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 10, 2009 03:49 PM (bcRFr)
Posted by: CNN,ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC at November 10, 2009 08:44 PM (nxUYP)
click my handle & then tell me that, a reporter actually called out Pelosi on it
Posted by: YRM at November 10, 2009 03:49 PM (xNw7B)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:49 PM (nxUYP)
No, they're slipping him the needle in about 10 minutes. His lawyer says he's not afraid and he's going to die with dignity. Plus, he's innocent. Uh huh.
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 03:50 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 10, 2009 03:50 PM (bcRFr)
Posted by: hutchbergstienowicz1200 at November 10, 2009 03:51 PM (FQe9U)
Posted by: YRM at November 10, 2009 03:51 PM (xNw7B)
I'll lay ten that when he went to Five Guys with Brian Williams he induced vomiting immediately afterward.
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 10, 2009 08:45 PM (MFbfZ)
Was there bacon even on the property?
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 03:52 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: ian cormac at November 10, 2009 03:53 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: President Buchanan at November 10, 2009 03:53 PM (xNw7B)
Hey, at least I got the James Buchanan thing right.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:53 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: toby928
at November 10, 2009 03:53 PM (PD1tk)Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:54 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Palin Steele (Banned Racist) at November 10, 2009 03:56 PM (xNw7B)
Posted by: He-Man at November 10, 2009 03:56 PM (bcRFr)
Posted by: Dagny at November 10, 2009 03:57 PM (/PUJA)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 03:58 PM (nxUYP)
Move aside, I'll fix this fickin' thing.
Thunder!
Thunder!
THUNDER!
Hooooo-oooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Posted by: Lion-O at November 10, 2009 03:58 PM (bcRFr)
Posted by: hutch1200 at November 10, 2009 03:59 PM (FQe9U)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 03:59 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 04:00 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 04:00 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: curious at November 10, 2009 04:01 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 10, 2009 04:03 PM (bcRFr)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 04:03 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Allah's Sockpuppet at November 10, 2009 04:04 PM (xNw7B)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 10, 2009 04:04 PM (ppFId)
Posted by: Popcorn at November 10, 2009 04:04 PM (OOehk)
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 04:04 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 10, 2009 04:04 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: kefka at November 10, 2009 04:05 PM (n1uMU)
hey if Ace comes back lets blame this on someone else, deal?
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 09:04 PM (bftbi)
I take paypal
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 04:05 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 10, 2009 04:06 PM (DPM1U)
NCIS sucks and you suck for liking it.
/Only half-serious. Figure out which half,
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 10, 2009 04:06 PM (otlXg)
1. Open Thread On The Execution
2. Thread On The Video That My Handle Links Too
Posted by: YRM at November 10, 2009 04:07 PM (xNw7B)
Posted by: Lion-O at November 10, 2009 04:08 PM (bcRFr)
we couldn't resist!
Posted by: Hollywood Writers at November 10, 2009 04:08 PM (xNw7B)
A sister of one of Muhammad's ex-wives says Muhammad returned from the first Gulf War a changed man. Sheron (shuh-RON) Norman says the nation should do a better job of caring for its veterans.
So, you see, it's really all of our fault. /spits
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 04:09 PM (9Wv2j)
NCIS sucks and you suck for liking it.
/Only half-serious. Figure out which half, .
I call foul!
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 10, 2009 04:10 PM (ppFId)
Posted by: YRM at November 10, 2009 04:11 PM (xNw7B)
Posted by: kefka at November 10, 2009 04:12 PM (n1uMU)
Posted by: hutch1200 at November 10, 2009 04:13 PM (FQe9U)
she is fucking evil.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 04:13 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Fruity Fruit Bat at November 10, 2009 04:13 PM (bcRFr)
Posted by: kefka at November 10, 2009 04:15 PM (n1uMU)
Posted by: YRM at November 10, 2009 04:16 PM (xNw7B)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 04:16 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 04:18 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: GrimJack at November 10, 2009 04:19 PM (d0sH2)
Before we start throwing around the blame of who broke who's comment section, I would like to point out the fact inconvenient fact that there were no Israelis around when the thread broke. Is it possible they were warned ahead of time? Did they maybe frame someone for it? These are serious questions that need serious answers before any rash decisions or blame is laid.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 04:19 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: California Red at November 10, 2009 04:20 PM (tW88P)
Posted by: Retread at November 10, 2009 04:20 PM (lTkmn)
Being an Air Force vet, I thought that once you complete 4-6 years of active duty, then you can resign your commission if your college was paid for.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 04:21 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at November 10, 2009 04:21 PM (IsCuS)
Anyways, since there is so much stuff happening at once, is it possible to run a thread with topics of concern and those who know a lot about a particular topic can report on it? I think seeing the breath of what is going on might make a lot of people sit up and take notice. Thought of this when fox reported how behind the prez is in filling vacancies in the administration. The thought occurs to me that no one wants these jobs.
Posted by: curious at November 10, 2009 04:22 PM (p302b)
Bye John, hurry up, we're having a hell of a time here in hell. Beer and bitches everywhere. Keep your fuckin hands of Marilyn, she's mine. JFK went ghey when he got here.
Posted by: Tim McVeigh at November 10, 2009 04:23 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: sandy burger at November 10, 2009 04:24 PM (MT+0i)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 04:24 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 10, 2009 04:24 PM (bcRFr)
Posted by: Derak at November 10, 2009 04:26 PM (pwF9X)
You think Ace is watching "V"? Lol... well, it does have Elizabeth Mitchell in it, but that might not be enough to meet Ace's "standards".
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 10, 2009 04:28 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: hutch1200 at November 10, 2009 04:28 PM (FQe9U)
Posted by: hutch1200 at November 10, 2009 04:28 PM (FQe9U)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at November 10, 2009 04:30 PM (ucq49)
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Posted by: somejoe at November 10, 2009 04:33 PM (SSWdi)
Posted by: somejoe at November 10, 2009 04:34 PM (SSWdi)
Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 10, 2009 04:34 PM (bcRFr)
Posted by: kefka at November 10, 2009 04:34 PM (n1uMU)
Posted by: somejoe at November 10, 2009 04:34 PM (SSWdi)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 04:34 PM (9Wv2j)
Samuel Adams,
For officers, resigning and separating are two separate things. Resigning is usually a complicated endeavor and usually done in lieu of courtmartial. Resigning means you are stricken from the rolls. If you are mad and want out, there are other options, depending on your situation, but they all involve separation. Difference between separation and resigning is that if you resign, your commission is stricken and you will never be called up in a national emergency and I believe you forfeit all VA benefits. If you separate, for officers, you go into the inactive reserve where you remain until 60 something. Theoretically, you could be called up in a national emergency. Separation is usually planned out by individuals. In the case you mentioned, about initial hitch, that is true if they don't incur additional time, and usually they start planning a year out.
Posted by: GrimJack at November 10, 2009 04:35 PM (d0sH2)
Posted by: toby928: at November 10, 2009 04:36 PM (PD1tk)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 10, 2009 04:36 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 10, 2009 04:37 PM (bcRFr)
Well Shit.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 04:38 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 04:40 PM (nxUYP)
Posted by: somejoe at November 10, 2009 04:43 PM (SSWdi)
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 04:44 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: somejoe at November 10, 2009 04:45 PM (SSWdi)
These shitpieces all know the truth. They just need to sustain the lie for 3 more years and that is all they care about.
Posted by: yambles at November 10, 2009 04:45 PM (rxaXW)
Well this is fine how do you do. Muhammad was obviously crying out for help.
He got it. Hopefully Hasan the same kind of help, only a lot sooner.
Posted by: kansas at November 10, 2009 04:46 PM (ynT/h)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 04:48 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Editor at November 10, 2009 04:50 PM (YX6i/)
Posted by: kefka at November 10, 2009 04:52 PM (n1uMU)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 10, 2009 09:36 PM (otlXg)
SUMMON THE METEORS
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 10, 2009 04:57 PM (erIg9)
Ben, you've never seen this picture of the Ewok-in-Chief? He's so adorable!
i always pictured him 7 feet tall, shooting fire balls from his ass, smoking a corn cob pipe, and having a fumanchu mustache.
this is close enough.
Posted by: Ben at November 10, 2009 04:58 PM (bftbi)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 10, 2009 09:21 PM (nxUYP)
Sam, many officers have long commitments now. In the Air Force, many pilots had 10 year commitments and couldn't resign or separate prior to that. I also think I read somewhere that their commitment had increased a few years ago to 12 years. Can't speak for the other services or different jobs.
Posted by: Bill R. at November 10, 2009 04:59 PM (EhlQq)
Posted by: Y-not at November 10, 2009 05:03 PM (sey23)
Posted by: Mallamutt at November 10, 2009 05:09 PM (V9SYy)
Posted by: koopy at November 10, 2009 05:12 PM (GJfTu)
Posted by: koopy at November 10, 2009 05:12 PM (GJfTu)
Posted by: toby928 at November 10, 2009 05:13 PM (PD1tk)
Things return to normal after *I* spent a half hour un-fucking the mess ;->
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 10, 2009 05:14 PM (XHkvf)
Posted by: somejoe at November 10, 2009 05:14 PM (SSWdi)
Posted by: toby928 at November 10, 2009 05:15 PM (PD1tk)
So where did it all go wrong? Is it really Ben's fault, and can we still blame him if it is not?
Posted by: somejoe at November 10, 2009 05:15 PM (SSWdi)
Posted by: currency exchange rate at November 10, 2009 05:16 PM (StdBI)
Posted by: Peaches at November 10, 2009 05:18 PM (9Wv2j)
Its like live action Anime.
Posted by: toby928 at November 10, 2009 05:22 PM (PD1tk)
I stepped out for a hour to the dollar store and left you morons alone with the peanut butter and marshmallow fluff and you decided it was a floor wax rather than a desert topping ;->
I think it was a dangling DIV or P tag somewhere. I nuked two of Ben's comments and it seemed to cure it. Commenting their bodies out didn't seem to work when I tested that ploy, so withdrew and nuked them from orbit, just to be sure.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 10, 2009 05:25 PM (XHkvf)
I know Allah disapproves, but what the heck:
John Mohammed: Hey look Tim McVeigh and Mohammed Atta are here. Cool. Hey wait a second, it is kinda hot here, what is that red hot poker for, AHHHHHHH
And I would like to tell Nidal Hasan the news.
Posted by: Joe at November 10, 2009 05:35 PM (0Gde6)
Posted by: curious at November 10, 2009 05:40 PM (p302b)
Posted by: chris999 at November 10, 2009 05:43 PM (B/WwP)
Posted by: SuperCool at November 10, 2009 05:43 PM (chNlj)
Someone noted earlier that the media wasn't paying much attention to the DC Sniper execution - not nearly as much as they pay when some scumbag gets executed in Texas. Easy enough to figure out why.
The Texas serial killers killed Texans. The DC sniper was shooting people in DC and suburban Maryland. You know, places where important people live - WaPo columnists and politicians and bureaucrats. And Andy Sullivan.
They can't publicly cheer an execution, because that's what rednecks do. But I doubt the DC sniper is getting any sympathy from them. Those bullets struck a bit too close for the elites' comfort.
Posted by: Donna V. at November 10, 2009 05:46 PM (F89Py)
Can't wait for his constituents to vote him out. Charles is right. They will pass something after all billy was on the hill today encouraging them. And then nanny and lurch will make it the leftist piece of legislation ever.
Posted by: curious at November 10, 2009 05:47 PM (p302b)
Posted by: butch at November 10, 2009 05:48 PM (myCYQ)
Posted by: Accountability at November 10, 2009 05:58 PM (4iIhs)
Posted by: ManDeE* at November 10, 2009 06:09 PM (XVUy6)
Posted by: Rewrite! at November 10, 2009 06:27 PM (UaSIe)
Hasan may be a terrorist because of his associations, but his act wasn't terrorism-troops deploying is a legitimate target in war.
it was TREASON. Treason of the worst sort- he was an officer shooting the very troops he was supposed to lead and protect.
I personally put treason on the same level of disgust as terrorism, but this dirtbag took it to a whole new level.
There is no plane of hell low enough for his soul.
I hope he has a painful but full recovery so we can shoot the fucker to death, and I pray the kill shot is a little off so he suffers.
Posted by: Gerry Owen at November 10, 2009 06:47 PM (jy9MO)
Posted by: Woddy H. at November 10, 2009 08:58 PM (mKpVf)
I suspect Sullivan got the drug charges dropped by convincing the US Attorney that he was not CHEM. Friendly.
Sullivan has called himself a conservative. I doubt that Buckley defined conservatism as riding bareback astride history and yelling "Stop!"
Posted by: Michael E. Stora, Ph.D. at November 10, 2009 08:58 PM (/1DLX)
not sure if this is a repeat but hasan's presentation is available at the washpost.... link as follows:
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Maybe our enlightened Congress can pass a bill that any Muslim may join the military as a means of getting a free education, with no obligation to serve in any way.
Really, how can anyone justify this? When you join, you know you are committing to serve. If it is against your beliefs, then you don't join up. Is this hard to understand? This is so crazy it is incomprehensible.
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Yes I've noticed that - however Democrats will always get a pass.
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