August 03, 2008
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Posted by: Jeff at August 03, 2008 02:29 PM (Zs+zn)
Posted by: Jeff at August 03, 2008 02:31 PM (Zs+zn)
Posted by: kev at August 03, 2008 02:41 PM (QnPkJ)
Jeff - Agreed. Ivan Denisovich is brilliant, as was the man who penned it. He will be sorely missed.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 03, 2008 02:46 PM (xQ52y)
Posted by: eman at August 03, 2008 02:46 PM (bXWSG)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 03, 2008 02:54 PM (eP9wS)
Uh, he was sort of an asshole. He was antisemitic, thought he was superior to the west, really didn't understand the freedoms we have in this country, i.e., expected reporters to submit their questions to him in advance for his approval, etc.
Posted by: grc at August 03, 2008 03:40 PM (V4gbT)
Posted by: Frank G at August 03, 2008 03:46 PM (P0rQD)
Posted by: me at August 03, 2008 03:51 PM (w+qGb)
1. Reagan
2. John Paul II
3. Thatcher
4. Walesa
5. Solzhenitsyn
Posted by: Aaron at August 03, 2008 03:51 PM (lRuip)
Posted by: grc at August 03, 2008 03:53 PM (V4gbT)
Starships will be named after him.
Wow. Just fucking wow. That there's something to shoot for...
"Shines the name, shines the name of Solzhenitsyn."
Posted by: sherlock at August 03, 2008 03:57 PM (ojW85)
Solzhenitsyn may have been a real dick in some ways, but he did help end the USSR.
He has earned quite a bit of slack, in my opinion.
Posted by: eman at August 03, 2008 04:06 PM (bXWSG)
eman, there will be starships named after someone else that we know, too. And should one of them encounter a race of vicious moonbats in the far reaches of space, its very name will cause their cranial cavities to spontaneously incinerate.
...IYKWIMAITYD
Posted by: sherlock at August 03, 2008 04:12 PM (ojW85)
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Posted by: Frank G at August 03, 2008 04:18 PM (P0rQD)
eman, there will be starships named after someone else that we know, too. And should one of them encounter a race of vicious moonbats in the far reaches of space, its very name will cause their cranial cavities to spontaneously incinerate.
...IYKWIMAITYD
Posted by: sherlockAce?
Posted by: eman at August 03, 2008 04:20 PM (bXWSG)
I didn't see they would pee their panties, I said their heads would explode! Shit, apparently IYKWIMAITYD just doesn't have the power it once had...
Posted by: sherlock at August 03, 2008 04:29 PM (ojW85)
Never said it did. But unlike Frank G., et al, I'm not willing to give Solzhenitsyn a
postmortem blow job.
Posted by: grc at August 03, 2008 04:36 PM (V4gbT)
Posted by: Frank G at August 03, 2008 04:37 PM (P0rQD)
Posted by: eman at August 03, 2008 04:41 PM (bXWSG)
The T Roosevelt is known as the "Big Stick".
The John Stennis is the "Johnny Reb"
I hope the GWB will be nicknamed: the "WMD"... fuck yeah!
Posted by: sherlock at August 03, 2008 05:12 PM (ojW85)
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Posted by: H Reid at August 03, 2008 07:45 PM (TRlEq)
There are many people that accomplish great things who are assholes, racists, misogynists, alcoholics, etc. You can't dismiss their achievements because they aren't nice. That's juvenile.
I don't think anyone is dismissing Solzhenitsyn's work. I've read most of his books and a lot of respect for his life and his writings, but we should also be realistic about how he actually was as a person. He was great in many ways, but he was also a flawed man, with very typical Russian flaws.
Posted by: Maetenloch at August 03, 2008 07:49 PM (MoQ3J)
Posted by: N Pelosi at August 03, 2008 07:56 PM (cEE8N)
God bless.
Death has been in the air lately for the great
conservatives, and it is my sincere hope that the passing of men such
as Aleksandr Isayevich will accrue to the overall betterment of our
world. They deserve no less.
Solzhenitsyn’s works were simultaneously directed to both Soviet cruelty and Western excess. He was right on both counts.
Solzhenitsyn was a true hero. May he at last rest in peace.
Posted by: Blacksheep at August 03, 2008 07:59 PM (FNXuQ)
Posted by: maxman at August 03, 2008 08:08 PM (OYeDg)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 03, 2008 08:28 PM (U9Dal)
My God grant rest to his soul.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 03, 2008 08:29 PM (qm2ea)
I read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich as a graduate student looking for something to do and I was immediately impressed by the courage of the man. Such efforts emphasize the magnificence of the freedom of speech that we enjoy.
I expect all men to have their flaws, and some will be fatal. I do not know if Solzhenitsyn was a good man, but he was a courageous one. He stepped up when the world needed courage.
I do not know that hating the Jews that were involved in the establishment of Communism in Russia and anti-Semitism is the same thing. I also do not know enough about Solzhenitsyn to know whether he was guilty of one, or the other, or both.
Posted by: Harry at August 03, 2008 08:44 PM (TOjhH)
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Posted by: VKI at August 03, 2008 08:57 PM (xRo/Z)
Checked on Amazon, and apparently only Volume 1 of The Gulag Archipelago is still in print.
That's a sad commentary on our culture. Perhaps his death will insprire someone to reprint the other 2 volumes.
They should be required reading at some point in every college.
Posted by: maxman at August 03, 2008 09:26 PM (OYeDg)
There were three thousand six hundred and fifty-three days like that in his stretch, from the first clang of the rail to the last clang of the rail.
Three thousand six hundred and fifty-three days.
The three extra days were for leap years.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 03, 2008 10:37 PM (Kyyxa)
return of the monarchy and expressed disdain for Western democratic
traditions.
But if you've read any of his works -- the list is quite long -- and especially
the seminal work that made him famous, you know why he is a giant in
modern literature. As much as I love "One Day ... ", I think "Cancer Ward"
is its equal. Still, if you've read his Nobel masterpiece then you became Ivan Denisovich. Solzehnitsyn perhaps did not have the same impact Thatcher and Reagan had on the collapse of the Soviet Union but he was a significant player. If not for his contribution, who knows, we might all be doing the Denisovitch for real (and will be if Generalismo Pelosi and Messiah Obama get their way).
While we're blaming the Jews for communism, it is helpful to remember that
Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, and Pol Pot were not Jews. Marx
was simply one among many "socialists" in the 19th century -- the French
Leftists were probably as influential in bringing about that disaster as
Marx and most of them were not Jews. Let's be fair about this sort of blame.
Posted by: prairiemain at August 04, 2008 12:02 AM (oPAYR)
OT:
Slub broke the comments!
And it's getting to be time for that Kwisatz-Haderach p-shop, right?
Posted by: EC at August 04, 2008 04:49 AM (mAhn3)
I was college in Canada when the "GULAG Archipelago" was first published. It hit like bombshell, destroying the pretentions of the pro-Soviet left. It was one of the most important books of the 20th century, and is well worth reading even today.
In years to come, the failures of Alexander Solzhenitsyn, like those of Dostoyevsky or Tolstoy or Chekhov, will be seen as the failures of a difficult, talented man who was, despite a terribly hard life and his own flawed character, a benefactor of mankind.
Posted by: Brown Line at August 04, 2008 05:09 AM (VrNoa)
He simply reported the truth about the USSR. To call him an antisemite, you have to point out something he said that was antisemitic. Noting that a lot of New Yorkers are Jewish is not antisemitic, for example. Now, Solz didn't like the communist monsters, so he didn't like Jewsich communist monsters either, but he was pretty damn consistent in his views of people regardless of their religion.
Think of it this way: there are reasons why blacks in the US are almost entirely democrats. It's useful to talk about that, but some out there will leap to the conclusion that you're racist if you do (even if you're black). That's exactly what the antisemitic charge against Solz resembles.
Posted by: ghy at August 04, 2008 06:11 AM (8jYMc)
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Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at August 04, 2008 06:50 AM (cQhQZ)
Posted by: Mangas Colorados at August 04, 2008 07:01 AM (MLL/S)
Count me in the "he was an asshole" camp. I read A Day in the Life in High School and was duly impressed. At that time, Solzhenitsyn was living in Vermont, pissing and moaning about American culture and how inferior it was. I remember thinking that the great man somehow couldn't make the connection between freedom and pop culture.
Posted by: S. Weasel at August 04, 2008 07:54 AM (rasT+)
Yea, I read it in high school, too. We had a student teacher from BC one semester who was also the starting safety on the football team. The guy was built like the proverbial brick shit house. All the girls were in heat and the guys were in serious hero worship. He brought the book and we all read it and tried to impress him with our deep thoughts on the horrors of the Soviet way of life and the moral clarity of Alexander.
He got us tickets to one of his games and a bunch of us went to see the great poet warrior in action. He also played on the kick off coverage team so we got there early for the opening kick. First play of the game he goes screaming down field and into the wedge and gets knocked cold. Out. End of hero worship.
It wasn't long after that I started hearing Solzhenitsyn bleating on about the decadent western way of life from his mountain perch in Vermont made possible through the generosity of the American people. End of hero worship, part II.
He was a great writer, ballsy guy and virulently anti-communist but he was no fan of democracy or America.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2008 09:19 AM (VBon8)
Posted by: RickZ at August 04, 2008 09:27 AM (rVPBT)
Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are lionized by the left for "Truth to power". Yet Solzhenitsyn really did suffer for the Truth, and the left hates him for it.
Posted by: eddiebear at August 04, 2008 12:17 PM (wnU1W)
It is worth remembering the Gulag on this day, and the person most responsible for us knowing about it.
And you have to wonder about those complaining so stridently about Gitmo, Abu Gareb, etc. It makes one laugh.
I seem to remember that those who complain so loudly these days (Kennedy, Kerry, etc.) were the same ones who were conspiring with the Soviets to get rid of Reagan. They didn't seem to worry so much about Lubyanka prison then.
For that matter, it was the same people who spent the entire Cold War talking appeasement and telling us what good folks the Soviets really were.
Posted by: Robert at August 04, 2008 12:34 PM (Rb4Qc)
He wasn't just anti-Soviet either, he detested all authoritarian & totalitarian government as well. I used to have his novel 1914, and despite it outweighing Doctor Zhivago by a couple pounds, it was just as pointed a denunciation of the Czars (and the last Czar in particular) as anything he directed against the Communists. Poor Russia, doomed to be always ruled over by brutal, greedy men (and practically no women), unwilling to share the power or the wealth.
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