August 23, 2008

Slate: Racism the Only Possible Reason for Obama Loss
— Ace

To say something positive: Jacob Weisberg is admirably forthright and direct about what most liberals are dishonestly passive-aggressive about.

But, that aside, it's all downhill from there.

If Obama Loses: Racism is the only reason McCain might beat him.

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If it makes you feel better, you can rationalize Obama's missing 10-point lead on the basis of Clintonite sulkiness, his slowness in responding to attacks, or the concern that Obama may be too handsome, brilliant, and cool to be elected. But let's be honest: If you break the numbers down, the reason Obama isn't ahead right now is that he trails badly among one group, older white voters. He does so for a simple reason: the color of his skin.

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Many have discoursed on what an Obama victory could mean for America. We would finally be able to see our legacy of slavery, segregation, and racism in the rearview mirror. Our kids would grow up thinking of prejudice as a nonfactor in their lives. The rest of the world would embrace a less fearful and more open post-post-9/11 America. But does it not follow that an Obama defeat would signify the opposite? If Obama loses, our children will grow up thinking of equal opportunity as a myth. His defeat would say that when handed a perfect opportunity to put the worst part of our history behind us, we chose not to. In this event, the world's judgment will be severe and inescapable: The United States had its day but, in the end, couldn't put its own self-interest ahead of its crazy irrationality over race.

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You may or may not agree with Obama's policy prescriptions, but they are, by and large, serious attempts to deal with the biggest issues we face: a failing health care system, oil dependency, income stagnation, and climate change. To the rest of the world, a rejection of the promise he represents wouldn't just be an odd choice by the United States. It would be taken for what it would be: sign and symptom of a nation's historical decline.

Um, I don't agree with them. Any of them, pretty much. Why would I vote for a leftwing platform now when I've consistently rejected the same platform when announced by white men?

Let's be more accurate here, Jacob: Race and only race would be the reason for a hypothetical Obama victory.

Thanks to Slublog.


Posted by: Ace at 07:11 AM | Comments (64)
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1 So when Steele lost to a white guy, it was ALSO racism? Democrats, heal thyself.

Posted by: Harun at August 23, 2008 07:14 AM (F+UjJ)

2

It sounds like Jake didn't think this all the way through.

Shocking, I know.

Posted by: Swede at August 23, 2008 07:18 AM (zenwj)

3 Poor liberals...they are seeing their moment of ultimate glory slipping away from them....hard to blame them for being a bit irrational.  Plus, liberals always have some excuse when they lose; it can never be that America just thinks their ideas and plans are ridiculous. 

Posted by: rockmom at August 23, 2008 07:21 AM (iZqUY)

4 What an ass. How about the fact the guy is an empty suit with no prior track record for getting anything of substance done? Oh, I suppose that's just a minor "distraction". Hey Jake, how about running Mugabe for president. After all, electing him, according to you, will put all that racist crap behind us.

Posted by: GarandFan at August 23, 2008 07:23 AM (eJ32B)

5 It's true. Look at how fine African American men like John Kerry, Al Gore and Michale Dukakis were defeated. It had nothing to do with them being too liberal, it was simply a matter of their race.

BTW- Jacob Weisberg? That sounds awfully Jewish. Is he in any way related to well known Jew, Rep. Eric Cantor?

Posted by: DrewM. at August 23, 2008 07:23 AM (hlYel)

6 I hate to think what an Obama victory would do for racial equality.  A candidate this unqualified, getting this far, is affirmative action at its very worst.  Obama's going to do a disservice to every minority candidate who follows him when he screws up this country beyond repair.

Posted by: Alice H at August 23, 2008 07:25 AM (jRtPb)

7

Motherfuck Jacob Weisberg and the horse he rode on.  Great way to win over votes, dumbass.  I'm sick of this shit. 

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 23, 2008 07:25 AM (ZTDVK)

8 Who wouldn't vote for Obama?  He's... "articulate, bright and clean..."

Posted by: The Obvious at August 23, 2008 07:26 AM (1g+FW)

9 "our children will grow up thinking of equal opportunity as a myth" Well, if in USA man with black skin can only become democrats candidate for president, prestigious uni graduate, important politician and very rich man - what kind of country is it? ... I think there will be a lot of bitter howling if Obama goes down. Maybe they'll blame themselves now - for breaking "nothing bad about Obama goes to print" rule? Ofcourse after numerous attempts at blaming "older white voters" (know under other alias - "root of all evil").

Posted by: Peterus at August 23, 2008 07:27 AM (9edEj)

10

Obama may be too handsome, brilliant, and cool to be elected

Not to mention Barack's thrilled to be running for President.

http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=barackbeachis0.jpg

Chris Matthews, call your office *and* your travel agent.

 

 

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 23, 2008 07:28 AM (NnAGL)

11 This is just more of the Obama = Messiah bullshit.  According to Jacob's logic, AmeriKKKa is e-e-vil.  Only the election of Jesus Obama will wash this nation of its sins and there will be sweetness and light and hope and change forever and ever, Amen.  If not, we will all be doomed to the fiery pits of hell.  He even slips in the lefty favorite "it's for the children" nonsense. 

Posted by: Reiver at August 23, 2008 07:33 AM (s7h/P)

12 Or maybe nearly the entire reason Obama is the Democratic candidate is because of racism from the Black community. When they vote for Obama at the 90+% level purely because of the color of his skin and their assumption that he is African-American, that racism is what overcame the legitimate concerns of the rest of Democrats. Just thinking, y'know? Really, I didn't mean it. Please don't send me to the re-education camps...

Posted by: iconoclast at August 23, 2008 07:33 AM (TzLpv)

13 "...:sign and symptom of a nation's historical decline." What a complete ass.

Posted by: mare at August 23, 2008 07:35 AM (xMkst)

14 note to people, for today's lesson, please realize that this article defines the term "begging the question."

Posted by: joeindc44 at August 23, 2008 07:48 AM (yrMek)

15

Let me see if I understand this, Jacob Weisberg... you are telling me I should vote for someone whose policies are anathema to me, because his skin color makes him a better choice for the country.  And because I disagree with that, I am a racist.

The fact that people like you actually get paid real money for publishing arguments like that is proof positive that there aren't any of those Halliburton re-education camps like you folks fantasize about.

And racists like you shouldn't be calling people who take their civic duty seriously names, man.

Posted by: sherlock at August 23, 2008 07:48 AM (ojW85)

16 >>>BTW- Jacob Weisberg? That sounds awfully Jewish. Is he in any way related to well known Jew, Rep. Eric Cantor?

Oh, Those People are *all* related. If they're not sharing a dentistry practice or scamming gullible Christians with their shady rug merchant "deals," they're attending each other's Bas Mitzvahs and brises.

Posted by: The DNC at August 23, 2008 07:56 AM (1WR4H)

17 I may be wrong, and racist for bringing this up, but aren't all the countries in the UN Security Council racist because they've never had a black man lead them?  Or the G8?  Hell, what about NATO? 

Posted by: Brass at August 23, 2008 07:56 AM (v/Ofr)

18 "Many have discoursed on what an Obama victory could mean for America. We would finally be able to see our legacy of slavery, segregation, and racism in the rearview mirror."

Which I interpret to mean he believes certain of our sorry fellow citizens would finally, at least for a little while, shut the hell up, which would be greatly desired amongst the population as a whole.

Never gonna happen.


Posted by: Mike James at August 23, 2008 08:02 AM (KY8+o)

19 It's wonderful, this notion that simply electing Obama will eliminate racism, isn't it?

Wait- did I say 'wonderful?'
Oh, sorry. I meant 'fucking retarded.'

Posted by: lauraw at August 23, 2008 08:04 AM (QRkh7)

20

The Democratic Party, or at least this fucking idiot Jacob Weisberg, is now terminally infected with a disease called "Psychotic Malicious Retarded Dishonest Fantasy Displacement Syndrome", or as I like to call it, Insanity.

First dickhead who calls me a racist after McCain's classic Reaganesque landslide in November I'll just respond to with:  "I didn't mind Obama too much, but I knew some white cracker would probably take him out before his term was complete, and I just couldn't stomach having a complete idiot like Biden running the country."  Will love to see the reaction to that response.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 23, 2008 08:06 AM (UioS4)

21 Liberal logic at its finest: Voting for Obama because he is black <> racist. Voting against Obama for any reason = racist.

How do people get this damned stupid?


Posted by: Andy at August 23, 2008 08:09 AM (iIvIk)

22 I agree.  There are a lot of racist white mofos out there that won't vote for a black guy.  However, there are a lot of racist black mofos that will ONLY vote for him because he is black.  So fuck them all.  It's a push. 

Posted by: Obstreperous Infidel at August 23, 2008 08:09 AM (qkSG+)

23 He's a little off-message; it's not just racism, it's also Diebold. Oh, and Americans are stupid. That'll be the Dem excuse in a nutshell, if the One doesn't get anointed.

Posted by: stace at August 23, 2008 08:18 AM (JO0c/)

24 what if I don't vote for his white half? Am I still a racist?

Posted by: Frank G at August 23, 2008 08:37 AM (P0rQD)

25 This is what kills me about the so called "Bradley Effect." If you are unfairly and constantly going to berate people for their choice of candidate, why wouldn't you expect them to lie to pollsters?  Getting your car keyed and your tires slashed gets old.

Posted by: grc at August 23, 2008 08:40 AM (YleVG)

26

TOO HANDSOME, BRILLIANT, and COOL???

(looks at photos of Obama biking, in a swimsuit, in a regular suit) 

This idjit looks, talks, and acts like the president of the high school chess club.  On what fricking planet is he handsome??  Have all the good-looking men suddenly died?  Were Johnny Depp and Denzel Washington in a plane crash together?

Brilliant?  Obama talks like a stuttering dolt when the teleprompter's on the blink.  It's no measure of brillance to parrot socialist talking points whenever you open your yap.

Cool?  COOL?  Dear GOD, please tell me that the standards of cool haven't dropped to a subterranean level suddenly.  Seriously, if you put Barack Obama and Keith Richards in the same room, where would all the cool be?

Yup, in the same corner as the heroin-addled, chainsmoking, wrinkled old bag of bones is.  And no one would even notice where Obama would be at.

 

Posted by: ushie at August 23, 2008 08:41 AM (8nB5X)

27 All anti-socialists are racists. It took 'em long enough to spell it out.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at August 23, 2008 08:44 AM (TPRbZ)

28 Slavery, segregation, and racism in the rearview mirror? I'nt Sen. Obama for institutional, long-term reparations programs? All those issues will be in our faces in perpetuity. He won't be healing wounds; he'll be exacerbating them.

Posted by: Jazz at August 23, 2008 08:50 AM (ViaIV)

29 Narcissistic elitism doesn't play well with the WWII generation.  Too many of them died putting that shit down.

Posted by: The Guys Under The Bus at August 23, 2008 09:01 AM (6L459)

30 He won't be healing wounds; he'll be exacerbating them.

Boy, that's for sure. Remember when he gave the big speech on race? All the moonbats were claiming how he was bringing people together? I kept saying he is and will be the most racially divisive person ever. It drives me crazy that people want the person who least reflects American values.

Posted by: grc at August 23, 2008 09:02 AM (YleVG)

31 Tushar had it exactly right the other day; if Obama loses, it will be due to the racism of white Democrats not Republicans. Democrats lead in party id. If they could get their own voters to support the Dem candidate, he wins. Republicans are going to vote for the Republican candidate anyway, and who could blame them.

Posted by: toby hussein 928 at August 23, 2008 09:48 AM (evdj2)

32

Thanks, Weisberg:  you've just given cover to every freakin thug in Detroit and every other city with a large black population to go all "Hell Night" on us when The One loses.

Because you will have ratified Black Liberation Theology. 

"AmeriKKKa."

Thanks a pantload, you...pantload.

 

 

Posted by: fulldroolcup at August 23, 2008 09:52 AM (fH1BE)

33

Dear GOD, please tell me that the standards of cool haven't dropped to a subterranean level suddenly

I couldn't agree more. Obama's ridiculous politics aside, someone please tell me what makes him so cool? He's such an obviously shallow, glib thinker and political animal, and he's self-conscious and stammering when put on the spot.  Yet these childish Moonie liberals act like he's Jules Winnefield in a nicer suit. He's about as cool as Steve Carell's The Office character.

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 23, 2008 09:57 AM (vfDNl)

34 Frank G, maybe any whiter person who votes for Obama should only count for half a vote?  I mean, otherwise they would be voting for the white half and that would be racist.  I think I could get behind counting that way.

Posted by: JorgXMcKie at August 23, 2008 10:03 AM (1Sf5X)

35 Hey, the dude just wnated someone to read his work. He wasn't getting it by going straight, so he went wacko instead.

Posted by: Roy at August 23, 2008 10:06 AM (Q0n6o)

36 Who the fuck writes this website?  This sounds like some major fascist PR...

Posted by: America Fuckyeah at August 23, 2008 10:42 AM (lNqDK)

37 Didn't Lynn Swan also lose to a honkey cracker? Freaking Double rascists!!!

Posted by: nikkolai at August 23, 2008 11:19 AM (rtT4s)

38 If Obama loses, our children will grow up thinking of equal opportunity as a myth.

Not if you educate them, like parents should. If 10 people interview for one job, only one can be chosen. The other 9 didn't get an equal opportunity? Of course they did. Equal opportunity means you have the opportunity to fail as well as to win.

...serious attempts to deal with the biggest issues we face: a failing health care system, oil dependency, income stagnation, and climate change.

The health care system isn't failing, it's just expensive. It's expensive because in most cases it provides state-of-the-art treatments unavailable elsewhere on the planet. Do you want that, or do you not want that? Believe me, when you fall ill, you'll want that. But don't tell me you want it but expect someone else to pay for it.

Oil dependency - yes, we're dependent on oil thanks to 40 years of obstructionism and Ludditism by the Left and environmental extremists. It's going to take another 40 years to fix the problem, and we're not going to do it with windmills. Trying to run the world's largest industrial economy on windmills is like trying to power a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier with sails.

Income stagnation - yes, and Obama wants to bring in even more immigrants to undercut wages. And by the way, increasing the population by 50% over the next 40 years through immigration is going to make that goal of solving our energy problems 50% harder. Do you really want to do that? Why?

Climate change? Yes, climate changes. It changed before we got here, and it will change after we're gone. We should take rational steps to improve efficiency of energy use and reduce pollution, and we'll all be happier and healthier, but there's no point in going crazy over it. The primary driver of the climate is the sun, and we frankly don't know enough about the overall climate system to even know what's happening or what to do about it.

Posted by: lmg at August 23, 2008 11:20 AM (A/vgC)

39 We'll win, don't worry.  If we don't, there'll be riots in the streets.  You know how those people are.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 23, 2008 11:23 AM (WuXbO)

40 Don't miss the reader comments. They're tearing Weisberg to ribbons.

Some of them are Hillary supporters. They might be a little extra-sensitive to the racism charge...heh

Posted by: lauraw at August 23, 2008 11:23 AM (QRkh7)

41

Ok, he's got me sold on Barry.

Why didn't Barry pick a black VP, he could have had a two for one deal going, I mean, if we have to vote for Barry based on his skin tone, why not allow us to vote for as many dark skinned people as possible.

It's pretty amazing how the lefties all thseo years proclaimed judgment based on skin color to be so fucking terrible, now they do it.

Yeah, now they do it.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Olbermananananaaann at August 23, 2008 11:25 AM (vFeQi)

42 Here is an interesting comment from the Slate/Weisberg article. I like the term used to describe Weisbergian types: Blueneck.

"Typical Blueneck.

Where rednecks cling to their guns, pickups and religion bluenecks cling to their racist delusions, mass-transit and socialism. Both are a bane to our nation's existence and both responsible (though in unequal proportion) for a great deal of our woes. Rednecks don't have the political and academic power that bluenecks do and don't exact a fraction of the societal damage that bluenecks do. If both were to suddenly disappear from the face of the earth, America would just as suddenly become a far better place with a far better future in store."

Posted by: F15C at August 23, 2008 11:31 AM (bJj7w)

43 Why would I vote for a leftwing platform now when I've consistently rejected the same platform when announced by white men?

Because Obama's is, by and large,  a "serious attempt to deal with the biggest issues we face", as opposed to the unserious attempts of white men.  Don't you see?

Why didn't Barry pick a black VP, he could have had a two for one deal going..

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Olbermananananaaann

Actually, to be more precised, it would've been a one and a half deal...

Posted by: Redhead Infidel at August 23, 2008 11:43 AM (M2upF)

44

Hey, Jake.  If it's oh so important for you to validate the greatness of this nation by shoveling a black guy into the Oval Office, how about running a black candidate who isn't, you know, a blithering idiot who doesn't even know how many states are in the union?  How about a guy whose life accomplishments aren't eclipsed by any kid who's ever run a lemonade stand?  How about a guy whose knowledge of American history, foreign policy, and even Constitutional law aren't put to shame by any panel of "academic challenge" competitors?  How about a guy whose closest social and political allies aren't militant racists, domestic terrorists, and racketeers?  How about a guy not so far to the left of any decent human being on the issue of abortion that Josef Mengele is uncomfortable giving him an endorsement?

Barack "whiter than Andy Dick" Obama would be condemned to a professional ceiling of shuffling paper in a Dunder-Mifflin warehouse if it weren't for his thimble full of African blood.  But none of that matters in Jake's world.  We must -- MUST -- elect this dangerous, incompetent, ignorant, amoral trainwreck, no matter the consequences, so that all racial divides will be magically eliminated and Jake can finally feeeeeeeel good about a nation that he so clearly despises.

What a sack of worthless shit.  Watching Obama lose 40 states -- even if it is to that prick McCain -- is going to be one of the most satisfying experiences of my life.  Yeah, there's gonna be riots -- leftism is founded on violence as a natural reaction to not getting one's way -- but at least Jake Weisberg's self-loathing vagina will weep sweet tears.

Posted by: VJay at August 23, 2008 12:01 PM (kico6)

45 This would be insulting if I really gave a rat fuck what these people "think".

Posted by: Javems at August 23, 2008 12:03 PM (/IQA9)

46 Hear hear Mr.Weisberg. We Delawareans know all to well the harsh sting of racism. As our smartest ever Sen Biden noted during the 2008 primaries Delaware was a slave state that couldn't figure out how to secede( OMG I can't believe that this man holds an elected office).

Further, Biden's less than stellar returns indicates that anti-Delawarean racism is rife.

Isn't that right.......................Mr. Esposito? Nikkoli? And everyone else who dared exercise their right to free speech?

Posted by: Blue hen at August 23, 2008 12:05 PM (rSo39)

47 Let's double down on the extremism:

McCain/Cantor '08!!!!!

Posted by: Blue hen at August 23, 2008 12:06 PM (rSo39)

48 OT: Barry has launched a "Rural Americans for Obama" site http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/mollyclaflinblog/gG5YcZ,
complete with a photoshopped logo "painted" on a barn in a cowpasture. Has to be Biden's work. "Hey Barry, they may cling bitterly, but gosh darn it the rubes sure do vote".   Good luck with that Obama Bin Biden.

--Your friend in corn country

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 23, 2008 12:30 PM (WuXbO)

49 I find few things less racist than the concept that I should not seriously evaluate Obama's ideas merely due to the color of his skin.


Posted by: alexthechick at August 23, 2008 12:40 PM (jCGID)

50 "Hey Barry, they may cling bitterly, but gosh darn it the rubes sure do vote".


DAMMIT.  Why do the votes of rubes count as much as mine?  It's JUST NOT FAIR!  In fact, why are they allowed to vote in the first place?  They're not....enlightened.


Posted by: Lefty at August 23, 2008 12:44 PM (3NsSK)

51 There's a youtube showing them painting the barn

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/ruralhome

little ways down the page.... the barn is probably owned by Penn or Glover..

http://www.dequalss.com/wp/

Posted by: Buffoon at August 23, 2008 01:52 PM (UwIPE)

52 If not voting for Obama is racist, isn't not voting for Hillary sexist?

And wouldn't that make not voting for McCain ageist?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 23, 2008 04:37 PM (Bpq+O)

53 I will not vote for Obama
because
I hate Americans who are anti-American.
Obama blames America for ALL the ills of the world.

I want a LEADER in the White House,
Not a
Victim or a Mascot

I want a President who DEFENDS AMERICA,
not one who attacks America.

Call me racist if you want to,
I'll defend your right to free speech. 

Posted by: Marvin at August 23, 2008 06:02 PM (E9UFb)

54 "BTW- Jacob Weisberg? That sounds awfully Jewish."

Naah, can't be. He's antisemitic, so I doubt he's Jewish.

How do I know he's antisemitic?  Easy, I used his logic.

African-Americans were slaves, and oppressed in history; they also have brown skin color.  Obama has comparable brown skin color, so not voting for Obama = oppression of people who were once slaves.  Obama's ancestry not ever having been slaves is irrelevant to the argument.

Ancestry is irrelevant, only skin color matters.  Given this premise, something new and different can be concluded.

McCain is roughly the same color as Jews, who have been oppressed throughout history; and Weisburg here is against McCain.  Using the same... well I can't really call it "logic", but whatever... you come to an obvious conclusion.

Opposition to McCain, or support of Obama is pure and blatant antisemitism.

Or something... I'm not good with this brand of "logic".  I'm used to the normal logic where words have meaning, and there's cause and effect and rational thought and we aren't completely bastardizing the concept of thought for political gain... but I think I got it "right". (obviously not the usual meaning of "right", but I'm still working with this "logic" that I'm apparently supposed to try to use).

Posted by: Gekkobear at August 23, 2008 07:32 PM (W92gQ)

55

... an Obama victory could mean for America. We would finally be able to see our legacy of slavery, segregation, and racism in the rearview mirror. Our kids would grow up thinking of prejudice as a nonfactor in their lives.

Because we all remember how, when black men rose to power and started running most of the country's large cities (NYC, DC, Philly, Baltimore, Detroit, ...), racism just ceased to exist. It's true -- our inner cities are utopia of racial harmony! Not like those racist motherfuckers in the suburbs. Those guys suck.

Posted by: John Bradley at August 23, 2008 08:00 PM (Y3Sui)

56 Stupid not-working blockquote...

Posted by: John Bradley at August 23, 2008 08:01 PM (Y3Sui)

57 So if I say Jacob Weisberg is a moron, does that make me an anti-Semite?  Or just observant?

Posted by: Pat Curley at August 23, 2008 10:35 PM (RA6PA)

58 I like Jews. I like Blacks. I vote Republican. I guess I'm confused.

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61 Many have discoursed on what an Obama victory could mean for America. We would finally be able to see our legacy of slavery,

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