July 28, 2008

Six Suspected Taliban Killed in Pakistan by Subsyndromal Symptomatic Depression, Audacity of Predator-Launched Hellfire Missiles, but Mostly Audacity of Predator-Launched Hellfire Missiles
— Dave in Texas

That droning sound you hear off in the distance might be a drone.

A Pakistani military spokesman confirmed an incident had occurred in Waziristan, but said he was unaware of details, though intelligence officials in Wana gave a clearer picture.

One official told Reuters the madrasa, or religious school, was a militant base and the owner of the targeted house, a tribesman named Malik Sallat Khan, had ties with the militants.

"The owner of the house and seminary had some links with militants, and the madrasa was not used for education, but as a compound," he said.

UPDATE: Abu Khabab al-Masri, confirmed among those who recently suffered Sudden Entropy Increase, as sherlock puts it.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 05:59 AM | Comments (40)
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1 The heartbreak of Sudden Entropy Increase syndrome.

Posted by: sherlock at July 28, 2008 06:44 AM (h6sl7)

2

Perhaps the gloves are coming off. It's about time.

Posted by: Clonefan at July 28, 2008 06:44 AM (17uwu)

3

"The owner of the house and seminary had some links with militants, and the madrasa was not used for education, but as a compound," he said.

Uh...yeah. 

 "The owner of the Mustang Ranch had some links with the sex worker community, and the whorehouse was not used for whoring, but as a ....Kennedy Family Compound."

(OK, the last part's a stretch -- but not by much)

 

Posted by: fulldroolcup at July 28, 2008 07:08 AM (4JvGP)

4 And how many were in the wedding party?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 28, 2008 07:32 AM (B+qrE)

5 That droning sound you hear off in the distance might be a drone.

Great line, would have made a better headline!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 28, 2008 07:43 AM (0+Ggj)

6 4 And how many were in the wedding party? Before or after the Sudden Entropy Increase onset? ps. I am going to shamelessly steal that dx and use it whenever and where-ever I can.... Adult Sudden Entropy Onset Syndrome- characterised by the appearance of at least three of the following symptoms. Symptoms should not have been present prior to the 24 hours immediately preceding diagnosis, and should substantially impair mobility or cognition. If subject is under 18 consult HCRC for diagnosis. 1. Expansion of thoracic cavity by at least 100% of previously observed capacity. 2. Loss of blood and tissue which exceeds 1 litre per minute, not to include regurgitated food or liquids consumed voluntarily. 3. Any sequelae of traumatic introduction of metal fragments to the cranium. 4. Stuttering or Mouthing of words without coherent vocalization. 5. Vapor or smoke trail leading from subject towards military aircraft or vehicle. (Aircraft may be manned or unmanned) (If unable to detect point of origin for smoke, consider Adult Sudden Entropy Onset- Type 2 High Value / Strategic or Alternating Current Exposure- Lightning Strike ) 5. Pronounced lack of affect. 6. Distinct odor of corruption.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at July 28, 2008 08:06 AM (TPRbZ)

7

The Audacity of Predator-Launched Hellfire Missiles: Change I Can Believe In

Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at July 28, 2008 08:19 AM (oC8nQ)

8 That place may need a thorough mopping before it can be used again. A human body is sort of messy when it gets that much trauma in a short period of time.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at July 28, 2008 08:24 AM (kaOJx)

9 Seems more effective than Lexapro.

Posted by: iowavette at July 28, 2008 08:50 AM (0p4xh)

10

Potosi Joel, you are welcome.  But after I hit enter, I realized that "Sudden Entropy Elevation syndrome" would sound even better, no?

And another indicator: rapid cooling to ambient temperature after transition from solid to gaseous state.

Posted by: sherlock at July 28, 2008 08:53 AM (h6sl7)

11 Thank god these asshats are dumber than a bag of hammers.  If they knew how to actually operate clandestinely, this would all be a lot harder.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 28, 2008 09:33 AM (/2zNd)

12 How much help did we get from Pakistan for this op? Laos, Cambodia, and now Pakistan where will it end and when will somebody in charge wake up to the fact that Pakistan (read ISI) wants the tribal regions to be left alone for the exact purpose of providing a safe haven. Predators are great, but F-16's and boots on the ground are better.

Posted by: jeff at July 28, 2008 09:42 AM (3ZswP)

13

Posted by: Potosi Joel at July 28, 2008 01:06 PM (TPRbZ)

 

LOL! I can imagine this during one of those late '50's black and white health class films.

 

Posted by: Bill H at July 28, 2008 10:02 AM (sZmRE)

14 Never.

Gets.

Old.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 28, 2008 10:40 AM (Ds4I5)

15 There is no sound from a Hellfire as it comes toward you.  Not that there can't be -- it's just that by the time it gets close enough the missile will have traveled up the targets alimentary canal before the sound has a chance to reach the brain.
It's a race between some weak, inconsequential sound vibes and concussive effects along with shrapnel pretty much traveling above Mach 1.  The shrapnel and concussion win.  You need a mop to clean up afterwards.

Quite frankly, Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan have
to be terrified of this weapon.  Whoever is targeting them is getting damn good
at it and often.  Intelligence has certainly improved a lot.

It's a minor point.  I get a raging mating pole at this war porn.  It's why I come to this blog.

Posted by: prairiemain at July 28, 2008 10:45 AM (oPAYR)

16 Patients suffering from Sudden Entropy Elevation Syndrome may exhibit behaviors such as becoming a spherical shell of incandescent gas expanding at supersonic speed.

Posted by: sherlock at July 28, 2008 11:02 AM (ZrS0c)

17 I give it a 9.3 on the ejaculation meter.

Posted by: cranky at July 28, 2008 11:22 AM (/aSPO)

18 Audacity From Above!

Posted by: mrobvious at July 28, 2008 12:45 PM (+I2P5)

19

Seriously, won't win this war anytime soon blowing up Saudi-financed madrassahs. Every time you blow one up, you're killing some poor tribesman's idiot kid. You will make enemies you didn't have before.

Thing is, I don't give a shit. The Saudis are funding a kind of jihad brainwashing and it has to stop. If it produces more terrorists we'll have to SESS them too. And maybe their grieving families will think again before sending another of their idiot boys to a madrassah.

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 28, 2008 01:09 PM (a00go)

20 This shit got old about 7 years ago.

Posted by: The Taliban at July 28, 2008 01:18 PM (1hM1d)

21 Off topic:  check it out:

http://www.notthelatimes.com/fired.html

Posted by: JayC at July 28, 2008 02:00 PM (ZLzFl)

22 #14: IOW, "At the sound of the drone, you just moved up one on the list."

Posted by: Bob Hawkins at July 28, 2008 02:04 PM (pnBkj)

23 Jesus on a freakin pogo stick.  Not this "boots on the ground" shit again.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at July 28, 2008 02:43 PM (wgLRl)

24 Jeff's in a big hurry to invade Pakistan.  Yeah.

Posted by: Stoop Davy Dave at July 28, 2008 03:18 PM (nmXXh)

25

"it was used as a compound"

Hellfire missiles = compound interest.

Posted by: Erwin Hussein O'Barry at July 28, 2008 06:39 PM (HU4xc)

26 So, they killed another "expert."  That means someone who can read at the 3rd grade level. 

Posted by: steve o at July 28, 2008 06:50 PM (z7c3k)

27 The only droning sounds I ever hear are the mosque next door and Rachel Ray on AFN.

Posted by: ApacheWarrior at July 28, 2008 07:26 PM (0cklW)

28

As unpopular as it may be jeff's got a point.  There hasn't been a single instance where airpower alone has won a war, USAF wishful thinking aside.  

The best news out of this is that Pakistan's objections to this strike are pro forma.  While strikes like this are good, the only long-term benefit is going to be to make Al-Queda leaders more cautious.  Eventually things will reach an equilibrium, Al-Queda will continue to operate, and we'll blow up anyone who gets too big for their britches.

If you want to end this, once and for all, there need to be troops going through these villiages looking for Al Queda leaders and equipment.  They can be Pakistani, US, NATO, or goddamn Dark Elves, but until they're actually there looking for the enemy and killing them in their "sanctuaries" we're going to lose this war.

Posted by: DirtyBlueshirt at July 28, 2008 09:53 PM (GERGy)

29 There hasn't been a single instance where airpower alone has won a war

I think that is true, but nuggatory.  Blockades alone also never won a war, but they darned sure made the win possible.  Ask Germany in WWI. 

In WWII, strategic bombing crippled German industry, preventing the mass production of their jets and other advanced war machines that would have played hob with our conventional forces.  Bombing alone took out the Romanian oil fields that would have fueled the German defense.

As we've seen in Iraq, the enemy is not 10 feet tale.  They grow tired of taking a pasting just like anyone else.  Keep targeting the leaders (expand the ROE so that these martyr funerals become their own death traps) and try to funnel the infiltration to our killing zones. 

Large scale invasion of the tribal areas just seems like a bad idea to me.

Posted by: toby hussein 928 at July 29, 2008 08:08 AM (PD1tk)

30

There hasn't been a single instance where airpower alone has won a war.

Strawman.  There are numerous examples of airpower taking out key Taliban and Al-Qaeda leadership, disrupting command and control, operations and supply.

Dude, just because a hammer can't tighten a lug nut doesn't mean it's ineffective.

 

And FWIW, airpower pushed Japan to the deck of the USS Missouri.  They would have come eventually, but at a far greater cost.

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