1 Be very wary about emphasizing that it was a "good" book that was being read; the implication is that if it were some other, more controversial, book - Huckleberry Finn? - then the persecution would have been ok. Not so. The "good book" argument is a trap.

2 Old.

3 I didn't know there was a book about ND vs the Klan. It was a close game. ND won it with a last second field goal. The Klan team set fire to the goal post after the game.

4

1 Be very wary about emphasizing that it was a "good" book that was being read; the implication is that if it were some other, more controversial, book - Huckleberry Finn? - then the persecution would have been ok. Not so. The "good book" argument is a trap.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at December 30, 2008 02:06 PM (nTM50)

Agreed. He he has the right to read Mein Kampf if he wants.

5 The best part is that the woman who complained was apparently a functional illiterate. Always good to take the word of a person who can't read when it comes to books.

6 This simply can't be true.  I was watching a debate between Hitchens and some other fool yesterday.  The other fool accused Hitchens about having "faith" in reason.  Well whether Hitchens does or not, I sure don't.  Whatever its uses as a tool, reason seems to win the day way to rarely to merit much confidence.

7 Next, they'll ban books about banning books. Is it ok to read a BBQ recipe book in front of a vegetarian?

8 Mr. Obvious is quite correct. It doesn't matter what the fuck he was reading. Don't give them any cover.

9

Is it ok to read a BBQ recipe book in front of a vegetarian?

I'm pretty sure that's rape.

10 If I'm not mistaken, the case was resolved in the man's favor.  I'll look for it.

11

This is the inevitable result of the "if the person is offended there is a crime" slide we have taken.

Crime used to be tied to intent, now it is tied to perception.

That is pretty loose stuff.

12 Should it have been a case in the first place?

13 I'm pretty sure baldilocks is correct; the main sad thing in this whole episode was that somebody got jammed up in a situation which called for a responsible individual to say "WTF is wrong with you assholes" at the onset.

14 He should have just apologized and thrown himself under the bus. That would have fixed everything.

15 Here: IUPUI says sorry to janitor scolded over KKK book

16 Pigs fly: ACLU was on the correct side of this issue.

17

Eh, there are 10,000 other examples of PC run amok. Is this the hill we want to die on?

PC, even PC gone wild -- whatevs.

It's the existence of a block captain that bugs me.

18 Perhaps there is hope that this PC infection can be cured.

19 #11, I think you are somewhat wrong.  It appears to me imho, that if the offended person is a "person of color," then the offense is automatically committed.  After all, it was a "slave-holder wanna be" that was reading the book, and it was a "slave's repressed gggranddaughter" that was offended here.  I truly think that everyone today believes they have a right not to be offended (Muslims?) but that they need to get over themselves and join the human race.

20

Apparently there's a new rule in grammar.  If you want to turn a word into it's opposite, just put the word "social" in front of it.

 

Social justice, social history, social science, etc.

 

21 Be very wary about emphasizing that it was a "good" book that was being read; the implication is that if it were some other, more controversial, book - Huckleberry Finn? - then the persecution would have been ok. Not so. The "good book" argument is a trap.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at December 30, 2008 02:06 PM (nTM50)

Agreed. He he has the right to read Mein Kampf if he wants.

Posted by: ol-dirty-/b/tard at December 30, 2008 02:15 PM (IoUF1)

 

Yeah, is someone going to get accused of racial harrassment if I don't like the fact they are reading a book on black liberation theology?  Would I get in trouble for reading the Satanic bible if an evangelical complained?  No way, the government (public university) has no business dictating what anyone reads, anytime and anywhere except under certain conditions in public schools and probably prison.  And that's even if they treated everyone's exquisite sensibilities equally (which, of course, they wouldn't). 

22

NO individual hill is worth dying over.

But you go giving them all up one a time and you wind up on a boat wishing you still had a country.

23 The functionally illiterate data has to be made up.  Could the University really be employing a person as an "Assistant Director" that is functionally illiterate?

24

So he got a half-assed pseudo-apology from the university after the bad p.r. hit the MSM, like the WSJ. So what? From the Founding Bloggers web site:

"A finding of racial harassment is no small matter. Once that is in a student-employee’s permanent record, it can follow them around forever. Even though Keith was completely exonerated of any wrong doing and the university apologized to him, that is small consolation considering a Google search of his name immediately returns links to this whole sordid mess. Certainly more than one of Keith’s future employers might take the time to perform a Google search. That should make for some interesting job interviews."

 

25 I can understand why an individual whackjob might go crazy, but what would motivate this board ( I don't know how many people were on it.) to side with the whackjob? I don't question that the employee meant no harm and no one should be offended by seeing anyone reading that book anytime or anywhere. But, what does it tell us about this kangaroo tribunals?

26 Well the Math says my question is garbage.

http://tinyurl.com/8bn9r

27 It's pretty ironic that based on Keith's appearance, he'd be just about the last honky you would accuse of harboring a racist bent. Fucking sensitive pony-tail guy with a yin-yang amulet? Yeah - the prototypical Klan/skinhead look.

28

I can read, just not the white male hegemony's letters of bondage and oppression.

I am actually quite fluent in ancient Ogham and also sandscrit. Which is why you have to make a copy of the driver's road test in it for me.

29 Gabriel, the university said that the woman who made the complaint was functionally illiterate, not the "affirmative action officer" who wrote Keith the letter. THAT bitch just be ig'nant.

30

Someone has to start punching these people in the mouth.  The woman who complained, the chancellors who initially ruled that reading a book from their own library is racist- the lot of them.

These people are going out of the way to pick a fight by actively searching for new and creative ways to be "offended".  Likewise, the PC crowd is quick to latch on in order to prove how "tolerant" they are.

Or you could just start firing some of these imbeciles.  Either way.

31 So he got a half-assed pseudo-apology from the university after the bad p.r. hit the MSM, like the WSJ. So what?

Indeed. Also, according to the film, there was no investigation by IUPUI of how a trivial incident got so monumentally fucked up by the university's affirmative action office, and the university employee who seems to be the most responsible for this brouhaha did not lose her job, but was carried over into the same agency when they renamed it something else.

This is a "victory" only in that FIRE got them to stop harassing the guy. Which is OK insofar as it goes, especially if you're the guy, but what really needs to happen in these cases is that someone with the money and/or the legal firepower needs to sue their smug, arrogant asses off, force the universities to find the responsible cockholsters and fire their asses, force the higher-up mucky-mucks to attend mandatory 1st amendment sensitivity training seminars, etc. Only if you inflict pain for the outrageous behavior is it ever going to stop.

But there's no evidence that IUPUI has learned its lesson, or even cares.

32 Curses be upon Hollowpoint and his fast typing fingers who said everything I wanted to say before I could, also more succinctly in his first sentence:

Someone has to start punching these people in the mouth

My only change would be this

Someone has to start punching these people cockholsters in the mouth

33 Greetings: "N-word" meet "K-word." Happy New Year!

34 This bleating prole needs to learn his place. His curiosity ought to be focused on the mop he drives, not on distracting the officers in charge of liberating the masses. The Revolution cannot be complete as long as the workers are aspiring to bourgeois habits like reading; allowing them to acquire knowledge beyond that required to perform their servitude for the State can have dangerous consequences. Get back to work, serf.

35 Here's her profile. http://www.iupui.edu/~oeo/directory/watkins.html

36 The Equal Opportunity / inquisition office directory is here:

http://www.iupui.edu/~oeo/directory/

The office consists of 5 women.  And 1 man "the data specialist" to do the math and run the computers.

37

Commie libs bitch their whiney, little brains out about censorship, but they're also quick to turn the temperature up to 451 degrees when it suits their political agenda.

38 Mr. Obvious, @#1: Be very wary about emphasizing that it was a "good" book that was being read; the implication is that if it were some other, more controversial, book - Huckleberry Finn? - then the persecution would have been ok. Not so. The "good book" argument is a trap.

True.  However, as a Notre Dame graduate, trust me when I say that it is a really good book.

Spoiler: the Klan gets the shit kicked out of them.

39 The office consists of 5 women.  And 1 man "the data specialist" to do the math and run the computers.
And make the coffee.

40 There will come a time when the only response to the word "racist" will be "Fuck you, you stupid ass." We have just been moved closer to that day.

41

Did anyone else notice the classy background art in the interveiw area?

Why does the university still need an Affirmative Action Office?  The Obamanation has been elected.

42 Forgive me for going beyond my station but the people involved were staff at the school. He takes advantage of his job by studying at the school too.

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