August 13, 2008
— Ace Bill Kristol's scoop. On Fox now.
"Not an absolute done deal," but "these people [his Democratic sources] are pretty confident."
Spokeswoman Strongly Denies: Not sure how much credence to give that. The spokeswoman may not have been told Powell has changed his mind -- deliberately not told, so she's not lying when she strongly denies it.
Now over at Hot Air too, Colin Powell denies in a non-denial fashion: "I do not have time to waste on Bill Kristol's musings." He only says he won't attend the convention, but ends the interview before answering further questions.
He doesn't have time? Why? What's he doing that's so important?
Status: Confirmed, at least in part. He will endorse Obama.
Exit question: How psyched are the Democrats to have the endorsement of a guy who "lied us into Iraq" and "twisted the intelligence" and all that good stuff?
Pretty darned psyched, I imagine.
I guess it's time for me to release the hundreds of photos I've collected for just this occasion showing Colin Powell within three meters of young white women.
And they said my hobby was insane. Insane?! Who's insane now?!
Muhahahahaha.
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Posted by: noprisoners at August 13, 2008 12:22 PM (eqMup)
Posted by: ECM at August 13, 2008 12:22 PM (q3V+C)
It's all because Powell can't beat him at bowling.
Posted by: roy at August 13, 2008 12:23 PM (cB77O)
Posted by: Maetenloch at August 13, 2008 12:25 PM (hn7Rm)
Posted by: t.ferg at August 13, 2008 12:28 PM (2YVh7)
Posted by: Wilhelm Klink at August 13, 2008 12:29 PM (GGhvX)
Posted by: Entropy at August 13, 2008 12:30 PM (HgAV0)
its not so much that he's turning on his party, as much as the GOP hyped him as "one of ours" to give itself some high-profile diversity. But he wasn't one of ours. He's always been pretty liberal.
Posted by: ace at August 13, 2008 12:30 PM (1WR4H)
Posted by: Hadlowe at August 13, 2008 12:34 PM (zK1MQ)
Posted by: David Marcoe at August 13, 2008 12:36 PM (8xsAw)
Posted by: DrewM. at August 13, 2008 12:36 PM (hlYel)
Posted by: George Orwell at August 13, 2008 12:37 PM (rf5CF)
Wasn't Armitage his man? Didn't he know who the leaker was (Armitage) during the Plame Game?
Didn't he withhold that information and encourage others to withhold it as well?
Obstruction at least, subornation?
After I supported him to run in 2000, it turns out that he was an affirmative action hire, anyway.
Posted by: Paul in Iowa at August 13, 2008 12:37 PM (qzOby)
Posted by: Andy the Squirrel at August 13, 2008 12:37 PM (xDozT)
Posted by: Max Power at August 13, 2008 12:40 PM (q177U)
But he wasn't one of ours. He's always been pretty liberal.
I agree. I can't see him supporting Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell for President. Colin is another lesson in the damage that RINOs can do to the conservative cause.
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at August 13, 2008 12:41 PM (8pObu)
Posted by: Christoph at August 13, 2008 12:43 PM (hawOV)
Posted by: Neoken at August 13, 2008 12:43 PM (haFqi)
"With prominent black conservatives nibbling at their fingernails over whether to vote for Obama, was Powell really a surprise?"
What's the what now? To whom are you referring?
Posted by: Kensington at August 13, 2008 12:44 PM (kFwRi)
And people had "sources" telling them that Hagel was going to be VP for Obama too.
And "sources" swore up and down that Hillary was begging to be Obama's VP.
I could be wrong but I think all these "sources" are desparate Obama staffers hoping to force somebody onto his team. But yeah, Powell was certainly never a doctrinaire conservative and does resent W. Why he would carry that through and stab McCain in the back, when he and McCain have been friendly, well....Maybe Alma's been drinking the kool aide?
Posted by: funky chicken at August 13, 2008 12:44 PM (xyyHG)
I agree. I can't see him supporting Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell for President. Colin is another lesson in the damage that RINOs can do to the conservative cause.
How about all these rumors that McCain will take Lieberman as his running mate and pledge to run for one term only? I would not characterize McCain as a rino but that's prety damn rino to me.
Posted by: grc at August 13, 2008 12:45 PM (h4JIA)
"8 Colin Powell was never really a Republican or conservative. He's a careerist army official REMF and a dedicated ass-polisher, and as the Republicans held the executive for most of his career, he just knew he had to make nice-nice to advance."
There, I fixed it for you - no charge.
He was also the laziest SecState in recent political memory.
Posted by: Holdfast at August 13, 2008 12:45 PM (Gzb30)
And we can't forget the "sources" who said McCain wanted to be Kerry's VP. Kerry asked/begged and McCain said he was flattered but not interested.
You still see people parroting the former point rather than the truth.
Posted by: funky chicken at August 13, 2008 12:46 PM (xyyHG)
We've prevented another 9/11, largely by sucking Al Qaeda into a conventionalish war in Iraq. Powell had one of the hardest jobs we've got at the state dept, but he didn't impress. I like him, but he's going to have to make a good argument for Obama for me not to assume he's being a dummy here.
Obama has no experience, his Georgia line mimiced Putin's before Obama flipped to Mccain's. He's just not a serious candidate. Mccain isn't Bush, and whatever gripe Powell has about Bush (some of which I bet are legit), it's not with Mccain. If Powell doesn't realize that Obama would harm this country, and that Mccain would do a better jiob of uniting and leading us, then we're just not on the same page.
But I'm not going to insult him.
Posted by: ghy at August 13, 2008 12:46 PM (8jYMc)
And there won't be one mention of the words "Operation Chaos".
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 13, 2008 12:48 PM (Ds4I5)
11 FWIW...his spokesman is denying the report.
I don't care one way or another--it's about what I expected from Powell. But Kristol is gonna look like a real douche if he got this wrong.
Posted by: Bugler at August 13, 2008 12:48 PM (YCVBL)
I lost respect for any person who looks at Barack Obama and thinks, "President... in time of war."
Posted by: Christoph at August 13, 2008 12:48 PM (hawOV)
Y'all may just want to ixnay on the atredhay. And read Drew M's link.
Obamabots are desparate for some positive buzz about their candidate. I think they put this story out there to put pressure on Powell and to get folks on the right to make fools our of themselves.
Posted by: funky chicken at August 13, 2008 12:51 PM (xyyHG)
Posted by: Christoph at August 13, 2008 12:53 PM (hawOV)
I don't care one way or another--it's about what I expected from Powell. But Kristol is gonna look like a real douche if he got this wrong.
Just putting on my tin-foil-hat here, but could Kristol have put this out simply to squash the endorsement before the Powell/Messiah camps came to an agreement? After all, he's saying that it isn't a done deal.Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 13, 2008 12:56 PM (Ds4I5)
Posted by: Che Pizza at August 13, 2008 12:56 PM (SPSOE)
How about all these rumors that McCain will take Lieberman as his running mate and pledge to run for one term only? I would not characterize McCain as a rino but that's prety damn rino to me.
I'm not defending McCain. We don't have a conservative running this year, so I'll likely stay home for the first election in my adult life.
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at August 13, 2008 12:57 PM (8pObu)
This story is phonier than Pam's tits.
Posted by: Max Power at August 13, 2008 12:57 PM (q177U)
Powell comes off as a total pussy in Doug Feith's book about the lead-up to the Iraq war. He and Richard Armitage sat around gossiping like hens and waging a desperate attempt to keep Ahmed Chalabi out of power in Iraq. This seemed to inform the State Dept. and CIA's every useless decision both before and after the invasion. That's part of the reason why Bremer was so disorganized after the invasion -- the Pentagon had wanted to have an Iraqi expatriot military force to help preserve order, but Powell and CIA nixed it because of their irrational anti-Chalabi animus. After the Iraqis voted, Chalabi was in just like that, so all their worry was even stupider than Feith thought it was at the time.
Powell's biggest concern has always been Powell. I just can't understand how ANYONE involved in Bush's administration at any time could make common cause with human emetics like Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, Obama et al. I'm convulsed with gagging.
Posted by: CornFedBeauty at August 13, 2008 12:57 PM (8r/RM)
Powell spokeswoman Peggy Cifrino strongly denied the report.
Theres absolutely no truth to it whatsoever, Cifrino told FOXNews.com. Colin Powell will not be at either convention. Theres absolutely no truth to this.
That's a pretty strong denial.Posted by: Nice Deb at August 13, 2008 12:58 PM (rpUFK)
Posted by: Holdfast at August 13, 2008 12:59 PM (Gzb30)
He has publicly said that what the administration had him do in front of the UN was a mistake, and has been criticizing a some of the Bush policies for a while now. It isn't that strange that he would stop supporting Republicans.
Posted by: driftwood at August 13, 2008 01:00 PM (v6Dom)
Posted by: DCox at August 13, 2008 01:00 PM (2pT9a)
Posted by: Arthur Miller at August 13, 2008 01:02 PM (V8cuX)
Posted by: thebronze at August 13, 2008 01:03 PM (V8cuX)
1. If he's doing it, it's because of race.
2. Powell was more adamant in front of the UN about WMD than anyone in the Pentagon, including Rumsfeld. That was HIS FUCKING CHOICE so stop blaming it on Bush and Darth Cheney. Don't you people ever get tired of this?
Posted by: CornFedBeauty at August 13, 2008 01:03 PM (8r/RM)
Posted by: Good Lt at August 13, 2008 01:08 PM (s9+Zr)
Exactly. Funny that I don't hear much about the Dems wanting legal sanctions against Powell. But everyone else in the Bush administration is or was eeeeeevil.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 13, 2008 01:11 PM (Ds4I5)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at August 13, 2008 01:16 PM (25884)
Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at August 13, 2008 01:19 PM (onab0)
Who ever thinks he is choosing Obama because of his race is a retard! He served this country for years with honor and respect. And now he's being trashed because he doesn't support McCain when most of you don't even support that bastard! Fucking amazing
Posted by: Uncle Luck at August 13, 2008 01:22 PM (hawQ0)
Posted by: Some Guy at August 13, 2008 01:23 PM (u0e0X)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2008 01:25 PM (VBon8)
The fact that he wasn't attacked by the MSM and Dems when blacks like Clarence Thomas were, is proof that he was a RINO who played the "game".(i.e.- I'm trying to change my racist party).
He was always a political insider more than willing to throw someone under the bus. His silence on Libby was deafening when his boy Armitage was the true leaker.He bailed on Bush when it got too hot before the surge (which he would have opposed).
Endorsing BO would be entirely in character.
Posted by: jjshaka at August 13, 2008 01:28 PM (LrS9M)
You mean Obama just got the endorsement of Bush's "Uncle Tom" who was a willing part of the neo-con war machine that LIED LIED LIED to America about mobile biological weapons labs and other WMD's and misled us into an ILLEGAL WAR FOR OIL and was a co-conspirator in the massive war-crimes and humanitarian crisis and biggest strategic and diplomatic blunder in U.S History, and Obama's bragging about it.
Well, that settles it.
We must've won the war in Iraq.
Posted by: Guvnah at August 13, 2008 01:34 PM (Rg8DN)
...willing part of the NEO-CON!!!!! war machine...
Posted by: Guvnah at August 13, 2008 01:36 PM (Rg8DN)
Posted by: Joe Mama at August 13, 2008 01:38 PM (QA8jC)
Posted by: ghy at August 13, 2008 01:41 PM (8jYMc)
Where did this "confirmed" come from? The Hot Air link (including updates) doesn't confirm any supposed endorsement.
Posted by: Barack H. Obama at August 13, 2008 02:27 PM (vxGjP)
Posted by: pbrown at August 13, 2008 02:28 PM (vxGjP)
And Powell is an honorable soldier. Attempts at smearing his military record (as opposed to his political record at State) are disgusting and unfounded.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2008 02:38 PM (BWTSB)
Posted by: Tinian at August 13, 2008 03:11 PM (1Mq7K)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 13, 2008 03:44 PM (0+Ggj)
Posted by: Anachronda at August 13, 2008 04:10 PM (xIUG5)
I can see Powell doing this. Bush hung him out to dry at the UN, leaving Powell in front of the cameras with his dick in his hand. (Hell- I supported IOF from the start, but that presentation at the UN was embarrassing for its thinness.)
So- Powell feels embarrassed, and gets to thumb his ex-boss in the eye by publicly sipping the Obama koolaid.
Politics.
Posted by: Jones at August 13, 2008 04:16 PM (kKjaJ)
I did like Powell's Desert Storm briefing about how we would fight the Iraqi Army:
"First we're gonna cut it off, and then we're gonna kill it."
Posted by: Jones at August 13, 2008 04:25 PM (kKjaJ)
Let's see and affirmative action ROTC officer from NYC suddenly gets Reagan's nod and goes to the White House, as in house N. Now he thinks he is the queen bee. What a prick. Loyalty? NONE.
Lesson? maybe affirmative action employees are what they appear.
OH, Racist? No, facts.
Pompous Asshole.
Posted by: kempermanx at August 13, 2008 04:28 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: kempermanx at August 13, 2008 04:32 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: Bart at August 13, 2008 04:32 PM (8LEAn)
Then I can vote for a candidate because he's white.
McCain...the White Choice.
(Somebody ask Powell what Obama's qualifications are.)
Posted by: Stinky Esposito at August 13, 2008 04:37 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Whitesheep at August 13, 2008 04:37 PM (eGVTo)
Posted by: TennDon at August 13, 2008 04:42 PM (TTjg8)
I know! I always wondered why that is?
Posted by: frito at August 13, 2008 04:43 PM (mpt76)
Posted by: Kevin at August 13, 2008 04:45 PM (OEF4E)
That's code, isn't it? Racist.
Plus, coming from a whitey? Even worse. Why, he's a racist's racist.
Kinda pathetic that a Sec of State sees Obama and thinks, "Yeah, that's the guy we need when the international scene gets hot."
Powell's legacy continues to fall.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 13, 2008 04:46 PM (sI5Ho)
Posted by: WT Sherman at August 13, 2008 04:46 PM (3NsSK)
Posted by: Nomennovum at August 13, 2008 04:48 PM (g3lgp)
Posted by: nikkolai at August 13, 2008 04:54 PM (bmxMJ)
There was no reason to bring Pam's unnatural bosom into this.
Seriously, back the fuck up already!
Colin Powell's endorsement wouldn't move the meter for anybody I know. And I can't imagine he'd move more than a few thousand people unless he's on the ticket as VP.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at August 13, 2008 05:21 PM (e321h)
"I don't know why this would be a surprise. Powell has always been a State Department creature and there are far too many blacks who will vote for Senator Obama just because of his Melanin content. They don't even care what his politics are or how good he'll be. His skin is all they see."
I'd bet my left nut that there are more white people voting against him because he's black than there are blacks voting for him because he's black!
Posted by: Uncle Luck at August 13, 2008 05:42 PM (hawQ0)
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Olbermananananaaann at August 13, 2008 05:43 PM (vFeQi)
Posted by: pby at August 13, 2008 05:51 PM (MMczV)
Posted by: He owes you notihng at August 13, 2008 05:56 PM (eNe9H)
Posted by: Esteban at August 13, 2008 06:03 PM (X7Ey1)
He's an individual, and he's clearly been at odds with mainstream Republicanism for many years now, especially over the decision to invade Iraq.
It's no surprise that he might endorse Obama, and it has nothing to do with skin color.
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at August 13, 2008 06:08 PM (YvLui)
Posted by: Mark at August 13, 2008 06:21 PM (4hUuD)
"Exit question: How psyched are the Democrats to have the endorsement of a guy who "lied us into Iraq" and "twisted the intelligence" and all that good stuff?"
No he didn't.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Olbermananananaaann at August 13, 2008 06:36 PM (vFeQi)
Who could say. Both are racist idiots, but one of them is defended by the left.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 13, 2008 06:46 PM (0+Ggj)
And this confirms it, if screwing up Turkey and covering for Armitage didn't: Colin Powell is officially a buddy-fucker.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 13, 2008 07:51 PM (/+Wbs)
Posted by: combat18 at August 13, 2008 08:41 PM (AXcCh)
Posted by: Trubador at August 14, 2008 07:59 AM (MlrAE)
70 I'd bet my left nut that there are more white people voting against him because he's black than there are blacks voting for him because he's black!
Who could say. Both are racist idiots, but one of them is defended by the left.
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Posted by: atnorth at August 14, 2008 10:44 AM (VAF/F)
Troops Deployed Abroad Give 6:1 to Obama
According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times McCain's haul.
Despite McCain's status as a decorated veteran and a historically Republican bent among the military, members of the armed services overall -- whether stationed overseas or at home -- are also favoring Obama with their campaign contributions in 2008, by a $55,000 margin. Although 59 percent of federal contributions by military personnel has gone to Republicans this cycle, of money from the military to the presumed presidential nominees, 57 percent has gone to Obama.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/troops-deployed-abroad-give-61.html
Feast on it
Posted by: Anthony Gomez at August 14, 2008 12:07 PM (sCAtg)
Feast on it
Meh. Its thin gruel:
A former West Point professor, Jason Dempsey, noted that the small set of contributions from deployed troops at this point in 2008 -- just 323 donations -- should not be extrapolated to form conclusions about military personnel overall. "If, on a bad day, a guy gets that letter that says [his tour has been extended] from 12 to 15 months, that could spur a quick donation and expression of anger," he said. "Donating helps members of the military express their political views privately."
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