1

You know what it means when a politician says "I'll be frank" 3 times in 3 sentences?

It means the corrupt fuck is lying.

Keep talking Daley.

2

http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/05/obamaayers-update-didnt-mayor-daley.html

http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-sent-obama.html

Beautiful

3 Holy cow.  It's really gonna happen.  On election night, as the reports of McCain victories pile higher and higher, Keith Olberman will crap out a Klingon wedding party on live TV. 

Heaven.

4

So if someone applied for a contract in Chicago who had a history of personal and business dealings with David Duke, would hizzoner say "so what?"

I think it's more likely we'd hear that Chicago had no room for hatred and division

5 A recent New York Times profile of Obama's days on the South Side of Chicago contends that, according to unnamed "aides" to Obama, Obama first met Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn at the Hyde Park home of the couple. This meeting occurred apparently in November, 1995 according to an anonymous blogger who claims to have been there, as Obama was launching his campaign for the state senate of Illinois.
If the Ayers/Dohrn-Obama meet and greet took place in November, 1995, it cannot have been the first time that Obama met Ayers.  By that time Obama was already Chairman of the Board of the $50 million Chicago Annenberg Challenge Grant program that was designed by Ayers. Ayers began the grant proposal design process in December 1993 and the grant was formally announced in January, 1995.  Barack Obama was identified as the Chair in press reports in June of 1995.
So, unless Ayers helped pick a board chair he had never met and would never meet until the "meet and greet," Obama, in fact, met Ayers well before the launching of his state senate campaign.  Of course, it is very likely that there would have had to have been a very close working relationship between Ayers, as the lead architect of the Annenberg proposal, and the first board chairman.  They would have had to have agreed on basic educational policy issues. And Obama would have been crucial in leading fund raising efforts since the $50 million grant was conditioned on a 2-1 match from other donors (and something they were quite successful at - raising an additional $60 million by 1999).
As I have written here before, my hypothesis is that Ayers and Obama had an older relationship and a deeper political affinity than has been made clear until now. The attempts by so many around Obama, and by Obama himself, to portray this as an arms length relationship simply do not fit the facts that are available. 
For example, the Annenberg Challenge grant money was aimed at solidifying the school reforms put in place in Chicago in 1988 when a campaign for "local control" emerged in the wake of a teachers' strike that galvanized business and community opposition to the power of teachers' union and the Chicago school bureaucracy. 
Both Obama and Ayers were active in that reform post-strike campaign. Ayers helped organize a major force in the lobbying for that 1988 campaign, the Alliance For Better Chicago Schools, or ABCs.  The Developing Communities Project which Obama headed at that time was a member of the ABCs, apparently one of the few members of the ABCs that worked with the black community. Many in the black community knew that teaching, the unions and school administration were one avenue to the middle class for blacks and thus were wary of the reform effort.  
Certainly support for "local control" would have been a pre-requisite to allowing Obama to chair, at such a young and untested age, the Annenberg Challenge. Thus, I think we can safely date the beginning of the Obama-Ayers relationship to at least 1988 when the ABCs effort was underway in Chicago schools. That was also when Ayers and Obama would have met up with the future Executive Director of the Annenberg Challenge, who would have been hired by Ayers and Obama, Ken Rolling.  Rolling in 1988 was on the staff of the Woods Fund which provided several grants to the school reform effort and to Obama's Developing Communities Project at that time.  Of course, a decade later, in 1999, as is already widely known, Ayers would join Obama on the board of the Woods Fund itself

6 Why do they keep suggesting just forgive and forget?
Would he be saying the same thing if David Duke got McCain to work on his education committee? "What's the big deal, they are just friends?"
The worst they have ever been able to pin on Duke, other than being a racist asshole, is filing a false tax return and mail fraud. Hell, Franken has done worse than that and he's the Dem Party nominee for Senate.
What the hell could be so bad about the records from an education committee anyway?

7 The original Mayor Daley, this Daley's father, hated Ayers and the other domestic terrorists. Absolutely hated them. And while people had differing views about the war, no one but a small fringe group supported assholes like Ayers, Dohrn, and the others who mostly blew them selves up. To find out that decades later they have infiltrated our education system, makes me sick. And what they hell do either of them do for anyone and especially kids? How does writing policy and infusing it with marxist thought help any one, let alone an inner city kid?

8 Maybe the FBI needs to setup a permanent anti-corruption office in Chicago like they just did in Palm Beach county.  I'm just saying...

9

Yeah, we remember your father, Mayor Daley.

He's the one who was caught on camera at the Dem convention of 1968, screaming "Fuck you, you Jew son of a bitch" at Sen. Abraham Ribicoff, over the latter's complaining during a speech of "gestapo" Chicago police tactics against anti-war demonstrators outside the convention hall.

IOW Daley's dad would have been happy to see a stout police trunchon applied forcefully to Bill Ayer's head, if he were in that crowd. 

A conservative Democrat crook mayor father then , his liberal Democrat crook mayor son now.

That's Chicago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 What the hell could be so bad about the records from an education committee anyway?

Posted by: Rocks at August 20, 2008 08:58 PM (7rbe9)

go to those globallabor.blogspot.com posts.

But the first thing that would come out is exactly when Barry met Billy.  It wasn't in November of 1995 like the NY Times reported.

Then it would be obvious that Obama's answer in that debate that Billy was just a guy in his neighborhood, and "a professor of English" was total BS.  Of course Obama knows what his friend and colleague of 20 years teaches. 

11

IOW Daley's dad would have been happy to see a stout police trunchon applied forcefully to Bill Ayer's head, if he were in that crowd.

IIRC Ayer's father was an executive with the local power company, so it's not surprising that he and Daley's father might have been friends. However I'm betting that both of them would have liked to smack Ayers upside the head with a truncheon back in the day.

12 short Obama

13

>People do make mistakes in the past. You move on.

Yes, mistakes- like if you had a mullet in high school, or drove a Gremlin at some point in your life. Maybe, you had ALL the Michael Jackson LPs. THOSE are 'mistakes'.

Bombing a federal building? Not a 'mistake'.

WTF is wrong with Chicago?

14 Daily doesn't like Obama but feels obligated to spout the party line in his defense the goods will be leaked don't worry.

15 IOW Daley's dad would have been happy to see a stout police trunchon applied forcefully to Bill Ayer's head, if he were in that crowd.

Hell, yeah! Ayers and all the other anti-war honchos admit they were there to instigate riots. 

He's the one who was caught on camera at the Dem convention of 1968, screaming "Fuck you, you Jew son of a bitch" at Sen. Abraham Ribicoff, over the latter's complaining during a speech of "gestapo" Chicago police tactics against anti-war demonstrators outside the convention hall.

I dunno about the veracity of this claim. It has changed over the years from people hearing it, people lip reading it, etc. Whatever the case, they really knew how to throw a convention back then. None of this boring crap with Fleetwood Crap songs and candidates tonguing their wives. 

16 Oh, and I forgot:  That's when Gore Vidal called Buckley a nazi and he called him a faggot.  Good times, good times....

17 The goods are very likely already gone. 

18 Purple Avenger is right.  Someone is probably falsifying something to stuff in the box, but whatever was there is likely gone.

Nevertheless, Obama led a $45 million  education program to "failure" (their words, not mine), and was highly involved with Ayers... such that his later comments were lies.

Daley's comments are extremely offensive.  We won't forgive Osama Bin Laden in 50 years.  Blowing up federal buildings... trying to kill people... that's not something we can accept.  Daley is just forcing Mccain's staff to explain this over and over, and he's making this a much bigger issue.  Somehow, he's playing right into our hands.

Most Americans don't know that Chicago politics = forgiving liberal terrorists.  They don't know that Ayers worked to bomb our Pentagon and Capital, and that Obama thinks that's Ok because it happened years ago.  Once they do, Obama will lose.  So keep arguing, Daley!  Slam the library doors in our faces and cover up the information.  The mere fact that we can't read the information, and that it's being destoryed, is enough for most Americans to realize that Obama is some kind of monster.

19

crap out a Klingon wedding party on live TV. 

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean, and I'm still laughing my ass off.

20 Ace or anyone else particularly knowledgeable, this company donated 70,000 key cards to the DNC for the convention.

I don't know your election financing laws. Is that legal?

21 no one but a small fringe group supported assholes like Ayers, Dohrn, and the others who mostly blew them selves up. That small fringe group is the Democrat party, the media, and the staff at universities today. Democrat party leadership always supported Ayers. They didn't want him to achieve a victory for himself, but they supported his attempts to destroy the society of the US during the early 70s, and they and he were mostly successful.

22 Pretty funny seeing an Obama ad on www.wunderground.com which is Weather Underground, a weather website.

23 And then there's this...

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/the_annenberg_challenge_money.html

24

He's the one who was caught on camera at the Dem convention of 1968, screaming "Fuck you, you Jew son of a bitch" at Sen. Abraham Ribicoff, over the latter's complaining during a speech of "gestapo" Chicago police tactics against anti-war demonstrators outside the convention hall.

I dunno about the veracity of this claim. It has changed over the years from people hearing it, people lip reading it, etc.

I saw it myself, live.  There' s NO DOUBT that's what he said.  Daley tried to claim he said "Faker" and not "fuck you", but in context that doesn't even pass the sniff test.  Abe R wasn't faking anything.

 

25 Christoph, that's a lot of keys for a Swinger party!  Oh, never mind, Edwards isn't coming!  Must be something else.

26

As for the wooden key cards, that's probably the only thing that will float after this convention and the nonstop unraveling of the obamyth.  This businessman stuck his neck out, hoping for favor in the future, but he'll be standing on a pile of toothpicks and sawdust before its over.

And the messiah shall shrug and offer to him these comforting words...

dude.  sorry.

27 It's not just Chicago. Over the last several years, we've been moving toward the point (at which we've arrived) where the Democrats are fully in support of terrorists and terrorism against America, and fully opposed to that which is good for America and Americans.

I'm done with the fuckers, they're enemies now. "Moderates" have had plenty of time to bail.

I'm generous, though. I'll just ignore the dipshits unless they do something like, oh, I don't know, get all cuddly with an avowed and unrepentant America-hating terrorist.

Like Mayor "I'm a Complete Sack of Shit" Daley. Asshole.

Why aren't Democrats up in arms over this? I can only assume they're okay with it. Like I said, enemies.

28

We can all agree that Iowahawk's version of the missing records found behind the dumpster will be comedy gold.

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29 Great comment from the Chicago Tribune article:

"Chicago Tribune, where are you?? When Obama ran for the U.S. Senate, the Chicago Tribune was relentless in their pursuit of his opponent's divorce records under FOA!! Too bad the same curious "journalists" seem to think that divorce records are relevant to a person's character, while Obama's ties to terrorists is just another petty issue."

30

(Ayers) has been in the forefront on a lot of education issues and helping us in public schools and things like that.

They keep saying this and thinking it will make things okay. It IS the problem. Why is that so hard to understand?

31 Ace, ya don't understand. Daley is a common street thug. He can relate to Ayers. Ayers was just incompetent. Unlike Bill, he inhaled. As for Ayers, he's probably doing more damage where he is today then he ever thought he'd accomplish with a bomb. What is the educational standing of Chicago area school kids compared to the rest of the nation?

32

Um, Mayor Daley, I think August 2001 was in THIS century:

33

Whoops.  There was supposed to be a picture above of William Ayers dancing on the American flag in August 2001, but it didn't make it.  Oh well, just Google "Ayers dancing on American flag."  It'll show up.

 

34 donated 70,000 key cards to the DNC for the convention.

Looks like very thin plywood.  There is only one company I know of that makes that stuff.  UPM/Wisa in Finland.

Its quite expensive.  I know, I buy a fair amount of it for modeling.  The 1/32" and 1/64" 3-ply are quite flexible and durable.  Would certainly make for viable keycards.

If you're buying thin plywoods, you're not buying American, because that's something we don't make.

35 That's interesting info, Purple Avenger, and shows another angle. Possibly a foreign country making such a valuable donation.

Hey, everything could be perfectly legal; you'd assume so.

But... is it? I just don't know. That seems like A BIG donation from one company for a partisan political event.

36

The University is happy to have the papers vetted, and redacted by a reliable source, so far the short list consists of only one name.

Apparently he's a political non-partisan, and an intellectual, as well as a specialist in national, and personal security.

So as soon, as Samuel Richard Berger, has finished his review of documents, you can be trusted with the truth about obama, without worrying about any sort of security concerns.

37 A Scene coming soon in Chicago.

Hey! I smell smoke....where's the fire?! Quick everybody look for it. Oh there it is!!!!It's in the Ayers Files room. Call 911...The phone lines been cut! The extinguisher doesn't work! The fires spreading, run for your lives! Everyone get out its ....

38 The people donating the cards have probably never even heard of UPM/Wisa.  There's all sorts of domestic companies who buy the Wisa product and rebadge it as their own.  Midwest, Sig, Aircraft Spruce, Bud Nosen, etc.

39 The whole wooden keycard thing is ridiculous anyway.  Plastic ones are very recyclable or could be resold to hotels who could just apply a sticker with their logo over the DNCC graphic.

40 I'd be a hell of a lot more inclined to forgive Ayers if he were repentant. He's not. 

41

Looks like it's time to stock up on popcorn.

If Ayers gets thrown under the bus (and I grant you, it's a ginormous if), Ayers would have a reaction that makes Wright's confab at the Press Club look like ... um, one of the Relax-o-Vision segments in that TV show Freakazoid?

Let us just say that besides being unrepentant, he's also pointedly refused to rule out ever bombing again.

42 At least it is not the race war weather underground people. Fuck that guy though.

This is off topic, but it seems like I am the only person who is noticing this. The democratic party has built their momentum on anger about the war in Iraq. I read something every day about Obama being the peace candidate and hear about Bush and his fascist wars constantly. That is basically what the left rallies on now. That and celebrating when people they do not like die. Obama says Iraq was not in our strategic interest often and his big selling point is that he did not support the war when he was a state legislator. It is pretty much that, some emotion and apparently the world is going to unify or something and people from Europe will like the U.S.

Why is the D.R. of the Congo or Darfur in our national interest while Iraq is not? It has been about a year since the base of the democratic party said "pull out now we do not need to babysit a civil war, genocide is inevitable anyway and fuck Bush for causing it. We demand peace, bring the troops home." and now they want to hop in on two more civil wars. How is Iraq not worth it, while doing something very similar in Darfur and the D.R. of the Congo are? Is there something missing or are these people as stupid as they sound? The only thing I can think of is the unilateralism vs the UN thing, but if I recall correctly the D.R. of the Congo is where the UN peace keepers were raping everybody.

Am I crazy or is there a serious discrepancy here?

43 lol at my poorly worded sentence followed by saying people sound stupid.

44 I tried to post this before, but I'll write it again: If the depository is publicly funded, wouldn't it be subject to FOI requests?

45 Obama, as an unknown with nearly no achievements, cannot afford to be seen as covering up some of the only documentation available regarding who he is, where he's been, and what he's done.

He should be called out all the way until election day so that the public wonders, whenever they hear the name 'Obama'...what is he hiding?

46 And when did public libraries and records depositories begin functioning as hidey holes?

47

bleh

If it was a Dem in the oval office right now, they'd be deeply invested in the moral righteousness of the cause in Iraq

48 That is disturbing to hear. It seems like something that involved so many deaths would be more important than that. I understand why some people oppose or opposed the war, but there is a whole other layer to it that is disgusting. If McCain wanted to he could just make Obama talk about the next wars and watch people who actually believe what they have been saying for the last few years wander off to Nader.

If Obama is not able to build international support and goes into the Sudan anyway he will have basically done exactly what Bush did that supposedly caused so many people in the democratic base to go crazy. Sudan or D.R. of the Congo could go horribly wrong and it might be worth talking about before people vote. It will be interesting to see how the press covers the war if their guy is in office. If this does happen republicans should start a tradition of not playing politics with casualties and showing a united front to the rest of the world.   

49 Hey Mayor - just to let you know, YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT SUCKS GREEN DONKEY DICKS...most should be taken over by the Feds, because they can't meet the standards set in the "No Child Left Behind" act...obviously, your "pal" has made such a dramatic impact on the schools in your city...NOT!

Maybe if you would give a fucking damn, fire the "no-loads" that run the schools, tell the teacher's union that their members need to perform or look for other work, and stop approving so much overtime to pay for the 100' yacht moored on the Lake.  Fucking flush the toilet on corruption in your city, asshat!

Inbred motherfucker...

50

"They're friends. So what?"

Is it ok if we "Swift boat" Barry on this little tidbit.

Barry said he barely knew that asshole, McCain said he saw the cross being made.

So Barry was lying, maybe John was.

Barry is friends with a guy who bombed the US, he shaded the truth for us out here to decide on his Judgment.

Isn't that a little bit important?

Johnny is friends, sort of, with his captors, so why do the lefties care about a little cross?

It's not like the NVA was at war with us anyway, it's not like Ayers was at war with us anyway...right?

This has a feeling like it's going to explode all over Barry.

51

Goddamn tags in the munu system.

Maybe they should try working on the user interface once in a while.

52 The goods are very likely already gone.

Shame on the RNC for not getting the documents months ago.

And double shame on the Clintons for also not getting the documents months ago.

Maybe they have them??

53

Say..live and let die...

I hate every bone in their bodies

Save mine.

Live and let die

Fuck em.

So mete it be

54 damn

forgot the italiac-ac-ac-ac-ac-acs

55 Over the last several years, we've been moving toward the point (at which we've arrived) where the Democrats are fully in support of terrorists and terrorism against America, and fully opposed to that which is good for America and Americans.

In other words, it's 1860 all over again...

56 Why aren't Democrats up in arms over this?

Heh heh, because they don't really give a shit about "truth."

This is why I say Fuck Them Hard and Never Apologize.

57 FWIW, the Congo is loaded with strategic metals and minerals.  Copper, Tantalum, diamonds and such.  Some oil too.

58 FWIW, the Congo is loaded with strategic metals and minerals.  Copper, Tantalum, diamonds and such.

And precious precious gorillas!

59 And precious precious tasty, tasty gorillas!

FTFY

60 " FWIW, the Congo is loaded with strategic metals and minerals.  Copper, Tantalum, diamonds and such.  Some oil too."

Sudan has some oil also. What the fuck is going on here? So far, we are not claiming/stealing natural resources from other people, but everyone argues that we are and hates us. Now we have a guy who says he will unite the world and he is closer to the guy The Whole World Hates policy wise and our "friends" love him. What a joke. Lol at the end of this bullshit.

61 bleh, I thought you were quitting this blog?

or am I confusing you with someone else? bla, perhaps?

62 Seriously, though, who among us would like to see Diane Fossey get eaten by a silver back gorilla?

There are millions starving in Africa and that twit feels the need to save fucking gorillas.

Fuck you, Diane Fossey. Fuck you.

Wait.

Is she dead?

Whatever. Fuck you, Diane Fossey.

63 "bleh, I thought you were quitting this blog?

or am I confusing you with someone else? bla, perhaps"

That was me.

btw, the democrats have clay feet. The whole platform is based on hating the worst part of a war and the candidate has two "un-winnable" wars, maimed people and all, lined up. Put it on the political table and McCain wins. Self-ban is back on.

64

He was a terrorist like bin Ladin -- just not as effective. (Bin Ladin doesn't smoke pot.)

Ayers:  Dude, let's go bomb the ROTC building.

Dude:  The ROTC building?

Ayers:  Why the fuck are you talking about the ROTC building?

Dude:  I thought you were.

Ayers:  Dude, you're baked.

Dude:  Not as much as you.

Ayers:  Heh, heh, heh.  I'm fried.

65 Based upon my 40 years of experience as a trial lawyer, I am reasonably sure that anytime someone says "to be very frank", or "to tell you the truth", they are lying.

66 My understanding is that Ayers was not thrown in prison and made some guy's girlfriend because of evidence problems in his trial.
If that's the case, I'm not aware that there was a statute of limitations on terrorism.  So, if (heaven forbid) it takes another 20 years to catch Bin Laden...if he gives us the peace sign, all will be forgiven?

67 If Ayers gets thrown under the bus

If the theory that the Ayers people have been the real motive force behind Obama for the past 20 years is true, then that won't happen, he'll have to continue lying about the relationship.  They play very rough behind their upscale fascade.  Obama knows that.

68

The Chicago Board of Education has traditionally been the main patronage machine for the African-American Democrats, as the Chicago Park District and Streets and Sanitation are (or used to be) the patronage machines for the Irish-American Democrats. It makes some sense, as a good chunk of the students are African-American; the problem is, giving some dumb lunk a job on a garbage truck as a political payoff does nowhere near the harm that putting a similar dumb lunk in charge of school programs or teacher evaluation does. This is the main reason attempts to get more bang from the tax buck out of the Chicago schools has always been so difficult. And why a close look at where that Annenberg challenge money actually went will not be welcomed by a lot of Chicago pols.

Here, I'll save you the trouble: RACIST! HATER!11!

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