January 31, 2009
— Ace Why thank you, Harry.
As the $820 billion stimulus package heads to the upper chamber, Senate Democratic leaders are launching a pre-emptive strike.In a Thursday afternoon news conference, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid urged Senate Republicans not to line up against the bill, and says Republicans will be blamed for any delay in the landmark economic legislation.
If we dont [pass the bill], its not our fault, were trying, Reid said. The president has done a remarkable job covering all the bases on Capitol Hill.
And Senate Vice Chairman Charles Schumer said that any GOP effort to lay the blame on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for failing to win was very unfair.
Republican Senators are meanwhile pushing tax cuts and mortgage rate cuts for credit-worthy borrowers. From 5% to 4% federally-guaranteed 30-year-mortgages.
Which seems to address the problem more directly than spending $50,000 for two dog parks in Lewiston, Maine. And $500,000 for one dog park in Chula Vista, CA.
Other dogcrap spending can be found at StimulusWatch.
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Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 02:49 PM (TJoU6)
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Posted by: Jimmy at January 31, 2009 02:59 PM (/Ft4q)
After the meager compromises are approved and several stupid Republicans vote for the faux stimulus bill, the Democrats will blame the Republicans for its failure "to stimulate" because it was under-funded.
In other words, Obama and the Democrats know it's going not to stimulate anything except Leftists pet-projects and they want just a smidge of non-consequentail input from the Republicans so they can blame them when it fails.
Mark my words: In 2010, the meme from the Dems will be "the stimulus didn't work becaue it was under-funded, thanks to the Republicans."
Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 03:01 PM (736T6)
Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 03:01 PM (TJoU6)
Other than that they have absolutely no influence or responsibility whatsoever.
Posted by: DrewM. at January 31, 2009 03:02 PM (hlYel)
Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 03:03 PM (TJoU6)
Fuck Harry Reid. Have his fellow Democrats pass the crap sandwich. They are trying so hard to get Republican cover on this bill.
Posted by: GarandFan at January 31, 2009 03:03 PM (237hA)
Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 03:05 PM (TJoU6)
Apologies to actual gutless weasels.
Posted by: aubrey at January 31, 2009 03:07 PM (KQb4B)
It's going to pass. The politically prudent thing for the senate Republicans to do is 1) simply explain to the American people that it will not stimlualte the economy and it will cost more jobs, rather than create more jobs, and 2) tell the American people how every dollar of the $820 billion is going to be spent, and 3) just vote against it.
It doesn't take an economist to know this stimulus bill will fail epically. If any Republican votes for it because they are intimidated by Obama's approval ratings, they are incompotent nincomfuckingpoops and should be removed from office.
Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 03:09 PM (736T6)
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Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 03:14 PM (TJoU6)
Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 03:15 PM (TJoU6)
Also: I'll bet there is a dirty little secret in Washington right now that Harry Reid cannot guarantee that all of his Dems will vote yes for the bill.
You don't think Kent Conrad or Tim Johnson, for example, are scared to death of the consequences of this bill? How about that ne senator from Alaska?
Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 03:17 PM (736T6)
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Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 03:18 PM (8/sTS)
Those supercollider scientists now admit that the beastie could create black holes that last up to a minute
More like a second but that's still scary shit.
Remember when Oppenheimer and the guys were working on the Manhatten Project? There was a concern that detonating the bomb could ignite the atmosphere.
They lit the fucker anyway.
I'm sure the guys at the LHC will be warming up the magnets anyway.
Posted by: ErikW at January 31, 2009 03:19 PM (hKtiw)
Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 03:20 PM (736T6)
Posted by: Matt at January 31, 2009 03:22 PM (0oQRq)
For the Mil junkies. When an officer consistantly endangers his men, unneccasrily, Don't the "frag" him. Which if I understand it correctly, he has an "accident".
Reid: "Charge unarmed men, hopefully the enemy will eventually run out of bullets!!"
Boehner" Fuck you, (Bang)
Edumicate me please.
Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 03:23 PM (8/sTS)
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Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 03:25 PM (TJoU6)
1) Invest in a giant fish market for tuna and call it a tourist destination.
2) Charge for tuna-licks - double the rates during tuna shortages.
3) Profit.
It's a plan based on the Underwear Gnome Model, except that Step 2 is defined.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 31, 2009 03:26 PM (sI5Ho)
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Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2009 03:30 PM (TJoU6)
I wouldn't say they were concerned. There was speculation that the chance of a chain reaction igniting the atmosphere was not zero, although they all agreed it was too small to calculate.
Posted by: toby928 at January 31, 2009 03:30 PM (PD1tk)
1)Is theft even illegal anymore?
2) I know if I use a gun at a bank, it's jail time. But what if I lie on a loan application? Isn't that FRAUD? Can I get an equity loan on my neighbors house, without his knowlege?
3) Can I get in trouble for getting a credit card in an unborn childs name?
I know the IRS will fuck me if I claim too man kids, but what about question #3?
Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 03:35 PM (8/sTS)
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Posted by: SGT Ted at January 31, 2009 03:43 PM (PdOj3)
Not only would they be able to pass any legislation they want, they only need a single crossover (such as McMaverick) to beat any potential filibuster.
But not getting legislation (that hasn't even been introduced yet) passed is the fault of the Republicans?
More of that Democrat Leadership that will lead us right over the cliff into "Abandon All Hope" territory."
Posted by: Drumwaster at January 31, 2009 03:56 PM (Ymor3)
Posted by: Duesa at January 31, 2009 04:10 PM (Srqga)
"...it's not our fault were trying"
own up to something you fucking little twerp.. i hope you choke on the barbed cock of satan.
Posted by: unamerican libertarian formerly known as e.koenig at January 31, 2009 04:18 PM (2J+Vs)
Bingo.
The key to taking Congress back in 2010 is very simple: force every single one of the f'ing Blue Dog Obamacrats to demonstrate that, when they claimed to their constituents that they would oppose wasteful spending, keep taxes low, and insist on pay-as-you-go rules, they were lying through their teeth.
The Republicans have exactly the right idea. Let the government take the actual responsibility (and loss) for the mortgage problems that it created in the first place. Cut the actual tax rate on people who are working, IMMEDIATELY putting money into their paychecks, and leave the "tax credit" crap somewhere else.
The hilarious part is that the Obama Party's only response to this is that lowering tax rates on working people would "cost too much". They're ready to throw over a trillion dollars away on welfare, but they are pinching every penny when it comes to actual working people? If the Republicans can't make hay of that, they deserve to lose.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 31, 2009 04:25 PM (SFs3T)
Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 04:41 PM (8/sTS)
Posted by: DavidF from Oz at January 31, 2009 04:43 PM (hUeBV)
If the Republicans can't make hay of that, they deserve to lose.
Can't? More like won't.
Michael Steele's first order of business should be to educate the American people on this shitty bill that will do far more harm than good.
Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 04:51 PM (736T6)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2009 04:56 PM (iafWn)
Posted by: PJ at January 31, 2009 04:57 PM (fyFnu)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 31, 2009 04:58 PM (PQY7w)
Oh, and the next thing on Obama/the Dems to-do list: amnesty for illegals. In the next couple of months, we'll have 30 million new citizens in this country.
Wait. Won't the Democrats have to answer to their constituents as to how this will stimulate the economy especially since we are heading towards double-digit unemployment and taxpayer-funded healthcare for everyone? Nope. After the passing of the stimulus and the spineless Republicans not demanding investigations into election fraud, ACORN is going to be well-funded and immune to prosecution.
The Democrats will be in power until, well, the end of our great republic. It's over, folks. There is nothing we can do.
Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 04:59 PM (736T6)
I only hope McCain and the other pieces of shit in the GOP live long enough to see what happened when they reached across the aisle.
Posted by: Darling at January 31, 2009 05:01 PM (736T6)
Posted by: MAJHAM at January 31, 2009 05:21 PM (krSaF)
I would be more sympathetic if he weren't taking us all down with him.
But this is the way America learns. Every three or so decades, we apparently need a Carter-esque character to exploit every stupid prejudice the electorate holds, get elected, screw up massively, and bring the Republic back to cold hard reality.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 31, 2009 05:27 PM (wkt/o)
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 31, 2009 05:30 PM (fWF4Q)
Senate majority leader Harry Senile is an idiot. Threaten them with not getting any credit for this shit sandwich. What's even funnier is how Dems, the President and their corrupt cronies that benefit from this piece of shit are stepping up the pressure on Repubs to pass it. If any Repub ever had a doubt if they are doing the right thing not supporting this, the increase in pressure to pass it when they aren't needed should tell them its the right thing to do. Dems eager to share credit with a Republican to the point they threaten and pressure them, that's desperation.
Dems and Pelosi were very adamant and very public that Repubs had no say in what went in this. Not once did Pres. Ego say " I want bipartisanship" while this turd was being written. The only part of this porkfest he wants to be bi partisan is when it comes to blame. If this bill is so damn terrific, why are they pressuring Repubs to support it? STFU and pass it without them. You've been telling us you can and will do so, so put up or shut up! You own this shit sandwich 100% Dems and Pres. Farquad
Posted by: Assholes, the lot of them at January 31, 2009 05:34 PM (hphNR)
Posted by: UncleFacts at January 31, 2009 05:37 PM (M+Vfm)
The fall may take anywhere from a few months to a few years, but it will happen.
Start learning a useful trade, folks. Canning food, perhaps. Carpentry. Gun manufacture and repair. Hunting Democrats for fun and profit.
Posted by: Drumwaster at January 31, 2009 05:39 PM (Ymor3)
27 Any Republican Senator who votes for this crappy stimulus bill should be Lynched.
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so should any Democrat who votes for it
Posted by: Assholes, the lot of them at January 31, 2009 05:42 PM (hphNR)
But this is the way America learns. Every three or so decades, we apparently need a Carter-esque character to exploit every stupid prejudice the electorate holds, get elected, screw up massively, and bring the Republic back to cold hard reality.
Obama is a political ninja, raised from an early age to be the left's stealth Palpatine. He's doing a pretty fucking good job: he's been president for just a few days and he's already got the Congress looking at passing the biggest bunch of the left's entire nice-to-have list since LBJ as a "stimulus", at a cost at least equal to a protracted land war in Asia.
I mean, seriously. That's a taste deez nuts resume item for sure.
I think he's in over his head, eggheads, and I agree that he'll pretty much fuck up royally, etc., but if American politics was capture the flag he'd be a few feet from his base with our flag and already thinking about tucking into some waffles. I hope we're playing best of three.
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at January 31, 2009 05:42 PM (gljje)
Posted by: UncleFacts at January 31, 2009 05:55 PM (M+Vfm)
I'm waiting for Mexico to collapse into a great big shit pile. The fun will really start when every Mexican with half a brain and some sense of self preservation takes it into his head to pack up the family and trek north to get away from the violence.
When that happens and they litterally start over running our border states the shit is really going to hit the fan. It will not be pretty at all. On the plus side when we on the right finally win, we need to make sure that we round up every left wing activist, proffessor, politician, and community organizor and shoot them. Publically. In the Head. Repeatedly.
Posted by: southdakotaboy at January 31, 2009 06:06 PM (ZuhVS)
Posted by: hutch1200 at January 31, 2009 06:09 PM (8/sTS)
Every time the commies talk about this bill they talk about infrastructure which has replaced the children as the code word for we want to spend gobs of money on socialism.
I have been through about 200 pp of the bill so far Iding where the money is going. True, there are a lot of instances where they specify building stuff, however, most of that building is for government buildings (which will have some pols name on it of course).
In addition, where true infrastructure is IDed (not counting high voltage power lines) they spend money in relatively small chunks measured in the hundred million range.
Most of the huge money measured in the billions of dollars range go into the typical communist programs for social welfare and to the bogus war on energy that they have declared.
Ant Republican that votes for this abortion should be hounded out of office.
So far I have NOTHING in the bill worthwhile to spend money on.
Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2009 02:24 AM (f6os6)
Posted by: Stitches at February 01, 2009 03:12 AM (KyqYb)
Vic, any politician that votes for this shit snadwich should be voted out of office, Democrat or Republican. Though we expect a shit sandwich from Dems, they should be booted just as much
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Posted by: scrood at February 01, 2009 04:50 AM (1dOyI)
(I'm gonna try this again with that &&$*$ tinyurl thing)
To take care of this infestation of dickwipes, it looks like we're gonna need a bigger Roomba...
Posted by: sherlock at February 01, 2009 04:55 AM (8V5Ut)
Posted by: Ann NY at February 01, 2009 05:26 AM (n82VB)
And there is less evidence that the stimulus package will work.
Actually the evidence from history is that not only will packages like this NOT work, but they will actually do harm to the long term economy.
Harry Retard and the rest of the economies will make the argument that the Repugs are blocking recovery or some such horshit as that. They will even try to make out like they are listenting to the Repug concerns and they will remove the few hundred million given to ACORN while leavingthe untold BILLIONS going into the AGW scam and pure social welfare.
I repeat people, there is NOTHING in this bill worth saving. The few hundred million in actual road and bridge construction projects could get by just fine if the spent the highway funds on them like they are supposed to. That is what the gasoline and highway related taxes are FOR. Instead they have turned them into a general slush fund for pork and inner city mass transit.
The so-called smart grid is a reward to the greens in the NE and West for blocking of ANY power plant construction. The rest of the country wilol have to pay taxes (and increased rates) in order to wheel power thousands of miules to these areas that want NOTHING in their backyards. I say fuck them and let them go dark.
This bill needs to go down in its entirety. There is NOTHING that they could do to it to make it worthwhile.
Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2009 05:35 AM (f6os6)
Posted by: Ann NY at February 01, 2009 06:05 AM (n82VB)
"You're not invited to help write or make comments on this pile of stimulus shit. Further more, you will vote for it"
Ding Dong Dingy Harry, Senator
Posted by: Sparky at February 01, 2009 06:19 AM (J1f2W)
Posted by: Harry Reid, at February 01, 2009 06:21 AM (J1f2W)
Fox just reported Netflix profits up last quarter by 45%. This about the third of fourth company they have reported with profits being up. They keep saying that these companies are doingbetter because of the bad economy. They can rationalize just about anything to a bad economy. Its funny that the ONLY time I have ever heard ANY news media talk about a good economy was during the 2000 election talking about Clinton.
The fact is that the only part of the economy that was in bad shape to begin with was housing and banking and both for the same reason, Communist interference in the markets. By screaming EMERGENCY every five minutes in order to get the first bailout and the Vomit elected they scared everyone else into laying off people and the public into stopping spending.
Their actions were the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater and everyone that did that should go to jail.
The Vomit is already saying it will take years to recover. LOL, the average recession since WWII takes 8 months for recovery to start. I guess he is counting on this bill to really tank the economy for a long time just like his communist hero FDR. A new excuse for ushering in communism.
Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2009 06:23 AM (f6os6)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 01, 2009 07:05 AM (iafWn)
Harry is more stupid than a skunk which got ran over by a semi, but he now realizes the republicans don't own one slice of bacon or a pork chop in the shit sandwich. It's all owned by Queen P, Prince Harry, and the new Messiah.
Why would one republican in the house or senate vote for the massive pork giveaway? Anyone who does will show they are more stupid than the democrats. They don't have one word in the entire bill since the 'chosen one' and his minions locked themselves in a room and produced the big fart heard round the world.
Meanwhile people in Ky are freezing, and soon will be starving, to death and FEMA is no where to be found. The gov (D) came out today and lied his ass off about assistance from the 'Messiah' and his merry band of criminals. They may be in the governors mansion eating $100 per pound steak but they aren't on the street helping the people. I live in an adjoining state and work in Emergency services (Fire Rescue). We have not mobilized one unit to assist them because we have not been asked for assistance. But then we have a (D) governor/DNC chairman/lying POS, and any out of state assistance would interupt the cash flow of tax money to his personal bank account.
Posted by: Scrapiron at February 01, 2009 07:07 AM (8nB5X)
His continued reelection in itself tells us that we should require voters not be brain-dead before voting.
Harry, just remember this when America kicks your sorry arses out in 2010. Of course by then with the MSM's help he will be proclaiming that he was leading the fight against this disaster.
Posted by: LogicalUS at February 01, 2009 07:08 AM (WGx+b)
(yawn) Vic has the long & short of it right there. FWIW, Instahoozit sez NetFlix' days are numbered due to new gadget that sends bit torrent free movies direct to big screen TV. But doesn't NetFlix have the edge there, with a superior library? If I worked over there I'd have the glue and tweezers out to work on my Business Model.
We all know (because of the joke AP article during every Security Review) that the US military has a plan to deal with invasion from Canada. So we can safely presume there is one, dating to the Zimmerman Cable at least, for repelling invasion from Mexico. One wonders if we have a comparable plan for dealing with a fast and unprecedented political merger, like the one most of Mexico would fervently desire when their state admits failure. That would come under the State Dept, not the Pentagon, on a good day. Shame. The Army was just getting really good at nation building, and State doesn't really have the track record. Never one to let a good crisis go to waste, I feel some good could come of it, if we just don't panic. I'd prefer to have a President who was smart enough to be bi-lingual to manage that, but we wasted that asset.
Posted by: comatus at February 01, 2009 07:11 AM (iDzUt)
Posted by: tarpon at February 01, 2009 07:27 AM (7evkT)
Just think how delicious it would be for the Republican senators to lock arms and all vote against this Obamanation of a porkfest. Make the Dems own it. They should. After all, even The Vapid One© has said this might not work.
I could dip a certain section of my anatomy in it.
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Posted by: Ann NY at February 01, 2009 09:47 AM (n82VB)
Posted by: Ann NY at February 01, 2009 09:50 AM (n82VB)
If it were just government spending then the depression would have ended in the mid 30s.
I read a discussion some time ago, I forgot who it was, but they said there was a train of thought among some economists that WWII really did not end the depression, it just masked the symptoms.
The theory was that until Kennedy released the draconian tax rates that FDR had put in place the economy was still moribund.
I can remember the 50s and I can tell you that they were not a period of sweetness and light as described on Leave It To Beaver.
Most people that I knew were lucky if they had one of those Levittown masterpieces to live in.
Of course what we are headed for now may make the 50s look like sweetness and light.
Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2009 10:11 AM (f6os6)
I tend to agree.
What really pulled the United States out of the Depression was the fact that, after World War II, we literally were the only people whose industrial base and labor force had not been either crippled or destroyed. That meant two things: labor could demand whatever price they wanted for their work, and management didn't have to worry about it because they'd just pass the cost on to the consumer.
The problem with the Obama Party is that these people -- and the unions that fund and control them -- are stuck in the 1950s. Europe and Asia have long since rebuilt their bombed-out factories, had a generation to replace their workforce, and been able to copy and improve upon what we do here; hence, even excluding the cost of transporting goods, they can build several things more cheaply and efficiently than we can here in the United States. The Obama Party, though, still doesn't realize that we have competition on the global stage and that their fat-ass lazy union members have put us in a situation where it costs us twice as much to build things at a quarter of the quality.
Realize that the leaders of the Obama Party, by and large, have never worked a day in their lives. Pelosi is the baby of a corrupt political family and married a rich eunuch, Reid makes shady land swaps, Kennedy and Kerry live off trust funds that they inherited or married, and Obama knows no life that doesn't involve a remora-esque attachment to the government's underbelly.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at February 01, 2009 11:41 AM (wkt/o)
Boom.
And half a million for a dog park in a state that can't pay its own bills?
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If it goes down in the Senate, that's the Dems problem. A defeat of this bill will only help the economy. Republicans should stand for what's right for America, not let themselves be intimidated by the Dems and MSM.
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