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February 04, 2009

Rasmussen Poll...Support For "Stimulus" Continues To Erode
— DrewM

Only 37% support the plan and the number has declined steadily over the last two weeks. Extra fun bonus...50% of people think "is at least somewhat likely to make things worse rather than better".

According to the poll there is a plan people seem to like.

A stimulus plan that includes only tax cuts is now more popular than the economic recovery plan being considered in Congress. Forty-five percent (45%) favor a tax-cut only plan while 34% are opposed. Those figures reflect a modest increase in support over the past week.

In addition to being popular a tax cut plan also has the added advantage of being likely to work.

Alas, that's not the direction things seem to be moving.

The cost of President Barack Obama's economic recovery plan now exceeds $900 billion after the Senate added money for medical research and tax breaks for car purchases.
It could go higher Wednesday if a tax break for homebuyers is made more generous, even as centrists in both parties promise to clear away spending items that won't jump-start the economy immediately.
...At the same time, centrist senators, including Ben Nelson, D-Neb., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, are seeking to cut tens of billions of dollars from the legislation. They're operating with the blessing of Democratic leaders, who hope a successful effort could attract some GOP votes for Obama's plan.

It's really amazing, they are adding costs while talking about cutting costs. It's almost as if they are just throwing shit against the wall with no real plan. What could go wrong with that kind of strategery?

Posted by: DrewM at 06:31 AM | Comments (61)
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1 It's almost as if they are just throwing shit against the wall with no real plan

You say that like it's a bad thing.

To me it's great, the longer this goes on the more the public realizes how effin' stupid this thing is.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 04, 2009 06:33 AM (epqk/)

2 Hello? What did Obama campaign on? He won on his promise to cut taxes for 95% of Americans. Obama's "stimulus" breaks his promise. Call him on this, please!!!!

Posted by: Indythinker at February 04, 2009 06:34 AM (M3hG/)

3 1: Amen! Keep floundering around, idiots [senators]!

Posted by: ECM at February 04, 2009 06:37 AM (q3V+C)

4 Waffles said we'll all have to sacrifice. He meant "to Him," and that includes sacrificing the silly notion that He ought to consider public opinion.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 04, 2009 06:43 AM (AZGON)

5 $900 billion and counting. I predict that the wrangling to get "tens of billions!" of dollars will succeed and the stimulus only be for $1.14 trillion. By the way, Australia seems to be doing the same liberal 'stimulus' panic bill with opposition by the recently deposed conservatives. So that's two economies down the drain...

Posted by: t-bird at February 04, 2009 06:44 AM (FcR7P)

6 I have to thank my Idiot Lib friends, they knew the Eagles wouldn't win the SB, so they elected The One to entertain me until next season. Thanks !

Posted by: Ben B. at February 04, 2009 06:45 AM (rs7M9)

7 This poll is obviously racist. But you have to forgive the folks in the areas Rasmussen interviewed, since they seem to like Fox News. They are simply clinging to their wallets and economic theories, and to antipathy for politicians who think money grows on trees.

Posted by: Barocrates Hussy Nobama at February 04, 2009 06:46 AM (uiKEv)

8 Those numbers mean some DC third graders will get to meet the Obamas this afternoon.

Posted by: FreakyBoy at February 04, 2009 06:47 AM (4s1it)

9 This poll is obviously racist.

New definition of racism: expecting a black dude in the White House to be as competent as a white dude in the White House.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 04, 2009 06:48 AM (epqk/)

Ok Morons,

Here is your extra credit assignment: When speaking with others, always refer to it as Obama's Failed Stimulus Bill or Obama's Failed Ecomomic Recovery Plan.

We have got to start shackling this idiot to his idiot policies. Besides, it's so much fun when lefties get all freaked out and pissed off!

Posted by: Log Cabin at February 04, 2009 06:50 AM (F+Nzw)

11 Question: IF the stimulus bill collapses, how much of The One Lightworker's political capital does it take with it?

Posted by: Techie at February 04, 2009 06:51 AM (906oR)

12 ...the Senate added money for medical research and tax breaks for car purchases. It could go higher Wednesday if a tax break for homebuyers is made more generous,... Can we get this over with and just have the Government tell everyone what to buy, where to work, and who to vote for? Actually, the MSM is doing a pretty good job of that last item. But that Rasmussen crowd is gonna need a stern talking to.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 04, 2009 06:51 AM (AZGON)

13 New definition of racism: expecting a black dude in the White House to be as competent as a white dude in the White House.

+1

Posted by: shibumi at February 04, 2009 06:52 AM (tZB/c)

14 and speaking of collapses and failures, here's Cheney's critique of the tainted one's new foreign policy:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090204/pl_politico/18390

Posted by: bowlin' ball at February 04, 2009 06:52 AM (ZS5Bn)

It's almost as if they are just throwing shit against the wall with no real plan.

There, fixed it.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at February 04, 2009 06:52 AM (QMGr1)

16 $900B now? It was $800B just days ago.

Holly crap, they better pass this clusterfuck ASAP or its going to wind up costing us a few trillion bucks!

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2009 06:54 AM (Ygf78)

17 Time is reporting that Obama's approval rating has dropped from 83% to 64% since taking office. That's a hell of a move for 10 day's in.

Posted by: chad at February 04, 2009 06:57 AM (Fdmhw)

#10

You are spot on. We must tie Obama to the failure of this bill, because it is going down...so says the 500 million Americans Nancy is counting on...or, er , not counting.

Posted by: ford at February 04, 2009 06:57 AM (Ki7fm)

$900B now? It was $800B just days ago.

Since the actual origin of the word was discussed in another thread, what's the opposite of decimated.

Posted by: polynikes at February 04, 2009 06:57 AM (m2CN7)

Time is reporting that Obama's approval rating has dropped from 83% to 64% since taking office.

Here's a clue. It was never at 83%.

Posted by: polynikes at February 04, 2009 06:59 AM (m2CN7)

21 And the watchdog lapdog press sits silently by.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 04, 2009 06:59 AM (1Jaio)

22 16 Avenger, if I am not mistaken the bill in question is an authorization, the appropriations marks (where the real earmarks happen) has yet to come. Figure other 10%, easy.

Posted by: Jean at February 04, 2009 06:59 AM (L64A6)

23 Here's a clue. It was never at 83%.

You are no doubt correct. Perhaps there was a sampling error. The 64% poll was most likely taken among the general public and the 83% figures resulted from a poll of all American media.

</sarc>

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 04, 2009 07:01 AM (epqk/)

24 Hey do I have control over what Time writes? No.

Posted by: chad at February 04, 2009 07:13 AM (Fdmhw)

25 Obama is like shit on a stick. It smells but they think if you taste it you can get used to it. Send the White House all your dog & cat shit and let them know that is what you think of the "stimulus".

Posted by: izoneguy at February 04, 2009 07:16 AM (3k9TU)

26 How about cutting the payroll tax? That will put more money in peoples pockets on a weekly or bi-weekly basis making it more likely that people will spend it instead of squirreling away (as I did) the one time stimulus check we got last year.

Posted by: Scipio at February 04, 2009 07:16 AM (m2RwJ)

27 Here's a clue. It was never at 83%.

You are no doubt correct. Perhaps there was a sampling error. The 64% poll was most likely taken among the general public and the 83% figures resulted from a poll of all American media.

</sarc>

It must have been of Democrats and not the American media, as I'm sure there were 17% of Dems who were hard-core Hillary supporters not happy with her being marginalized at State after accepting the position.

The American media's approval rating for him would have easily been in the 90% range, with the dissenters being the ones on the right with some backbone.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 04, 2009 07:16 AM (Ekjw6)

28 "Time is reporting that Obama's approval rating has dropped from 83% to 64% since taking office." Maybe they'll start referencing "President Obama's falling poll numbers" in the lead of every story about him. Or maybe they won't.

Posted by: Jim Digriz at February 04, 2009 07:19 AM (/Mtjv)

So you're saying people are opting for the Rush proposal in the Obama-Rush Stimulus Plan of 2009?

Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: LoriInWa at February 04, 2009 07:23 AM (5c8ur)

30 The Hill is running a story that the Dems are planning a $500,000 retreat at Williamsburg Va....damn that ought to stimulate the economy......

Posted by: norryrr at February 04, 2009 07:28 AM (IF2pc)

He's thinkin' of a master plan/'cuz ain't nothing but sweat inside his hand/so he digs into his pockets all his money is spent/so he digs deeper but still comin' up with lint...

Posted by: General Zod at February 04, 2009 07:29 AM (nwEiU)

32 This is no time for politics. The stimulus must pass. Think of the 500 million people a month losing their jobs.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 04, 2009 07:31 AM (1Jaio)

33 I wonder if Republicans are still worried about Obama's polling numbers even though America seems to prefer their plan over his?

I can't decide who I loathe more - the cowards who supposedly represent my viewpoint or corrupt Democrats who oppose my viewpoint?

Posted by: Bald Ninja at February 04, 2009 07:32 AM (4pdbX)

34 OT and over to the side bar -

Woman Breaks World Record, and Makes Poignant Statement About White Supremacy, With Brand Spankin' New 38KKK Breasts

according to her myspace page she was also a John McCain supporter.

Posted by: chad at February 04, 2009 07:32 AM (Fdmhw)

If it weren't for the fact that having a president worse than Carter is stunningly dangerous to the nation, this would all be f*cking hilarious. Like who could have seen this massive demonstration of incompetence coming. Oh pretty much anyone with a brain stem. We would be WAY better off if Palin were president despite her flaws.

It's nice to be right of course, but this is not a good situation for America...

Posted by: doug at February 04, 2009 07:32 AM (7k/CU)

36 Think of the 500 million people a month losing their jobs.

Awesome. According to Granny McBotox the whole world will be out of work in 12 months

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 04, 2009 07:33 AM (epqk/)

37 We would be WAY better off if Palin were president despite her flaws.

Palin would have been better, because she's smarter than Obama in at least one way.

She doesn't think she knows everything.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 04, 2009 07:34 AM (epqk/)

So you're saying people are opting for the Rush proposal in the Obama-Rush Stimulus Plan of 2009?

Why am I not surprised?

That's because in the Rush plan the American people in general actually benefit. In the Obama plan only hand picked organizations who helped get Obama elected benefit.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 04, 2009 07:37 AM (CiVat)

He's thinkin' of a master plan/'cuz ain't nothing but sweat inside his hand/so he digs into his pockets all his money is spent/so he digs deeper but still comin' up with lint...

So I start my mission- leave my residence
Thinkin how could I get some dead presidents
I need money, I used to be a stick-up kid
So I think of all the devious things I did

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 04, 2009 07:43 AM (CiVat)

40 Hey, Republicans, I don't want your GD pork!!

Cut capital gains taxes, corporate taxes, and rates.

Repeal bans on oil drilling.

Press Enter.

That's all I will accept.

Posted by: PJ at February 04, 2009 07:43 AM (fyFnu)

Since the actual origin of the word was discussed in another thread, what's the opposite of decimated.

Posted by: polynikes at February 04, 2009 11:57 AM (m2CN7) .

legislate

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 04, 2009 07:44 AM (wgLRl)

42
Slow moving zombies are so much easier to shoot in the head.

Die, Zombie stimulus bill! Die!

Posted by: Dang at February 04, 2009 07:47 AM (Y5LIx)

26 Scipio, they won't do that because we serfs might get used to getting our whole paycheck. Thats a slippery slope they don't want to go down.

Imagine how the political landscape would change if instead of withholding and giving your money back to you - you had to write a big check to the Government each year.

Posted by: Jean at February 04, 2009 07:47 AM (L64A6)

44 Screw this economic crap. The important question is, where are those photos of Ginger wearing nothing but Sarah Palin boots?

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 04, 2009 07:47 AM (FO+YO)

Here is your extra credit assignment: When speaking with others, always refer to it as Obama's Failed Stimulus Bill or Obama's Failed Ecomomic Recovery Plan.

We have got to start shackling this idiot to his idiot policies. Besides, it's so much fun when lefties get all freaked out and pissed off!

Posted by: Log Cabin at February 04, 2009 11:50 AM (F+Nzw)

I don't think you've gone far enough actually. Call it Obama's Trillion Dollar Giveaway. Calling this a "stimulus bill", failed or otherwise, when it is not is actually helpful to Uhbama.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 04, 2009 07:51 AM (7BU4a)

46 Hey do I have control over what Time writes? No.

Posted by: chad at February 04, 2009 12:13 PM (Fdmhw)

My post wasn't directed at you. Besides I don't concern myself with people who have no control of the Times. weaklings. all of you.

Posted by: polynikes at February 04, 2009 07:51 AM (m2CN7)

The king of Hope is turning into the merchant of Fear

WASHINGTON President Barack Obama said Wednesday the recession will turn into "a catastrophe" if the economic stimulus is not passed quickly, lobbying anew for the plan as its price tag climbed above $900 billion and drew more criticism.

The president rejected several complaints about the plan, including arguments that tax cuts alone would solve the problem or that longer-term goals such as energy independence and health care reform should wait. Obama opposed such piecemeal approaches.

Instead, he argued that recalcitrant lawmakers need to get behind him, saying the American people embraced his ideas when they elected him president in November.

Kneel before Barry!!!

No plan is perfect, and we should work to make it stronger," Obama told reporters at the White House. "Let's not make the perfect the enemy of the essential.

"A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe and guarantee a longer recession, a less robust recovery, and a more uncertain future," he said. "That's why I feel such a sense of urgency about the Economic Recovery and Reinvestment Plan."

Don't ask silly questions. Just obey Barry!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 04, 2009 07:54 AM (1Jaio)

A Balrog of Morgoth at February 04, 2009 12:44 PM (wgLRl

Heh. good one.

Posted by: polynikes at February 04, 2009 07:56 AM (m2CN7)

49 I'm so torn on this...I'm glad the bill is slowly dying, or at least morphing to a more effective (or less ineffective) version, but if it actually works to some degree, the country will benefit in the short term but Obama gets the credit and is re-elected to cause untold problems down the road. If liberals get to pass their dream bill, the economy tanks and the US suffers for a while, but (hopefully) conservatives can rally, get the congress and presidency sooner and have to balls and mandate to correct things for the long term.

Posted by: Grimaldi at February 04, 2009 07:59 AM (PwKiP)

50 And oh how I wish they would stop referring to EVERYONE as the American people. In my not so humble opinion, being born in this country doesn't make you an American, it makes you a citizen of the United States (citizen originally being capitalized but they screwed that up in the 14th amend.). Being an American requires a certain spirit and it's not the kind of spirit that votes for someone because they promise to steal someone else's money to pay for your healthcare etc.

Posted by: teej at February 04, 2009 08:14 AM (c459z)

OK OK....If you add in all the folks in Obama's 57 state

America there probably is 500 million people....

Posted by: norryrr at February 04, 2009 08:14 AM (IF2pc)

52 A Balrog of Morgoth

+2

Posted by: monkeyfan at February 04, 2009 08:44 AM (cEE8N)

That's why I feel such a sense of urgency about the Economic Recovery and Reinvestment Plan."

Or ERRP for short. Pronounced "UUUUURRRRRPPPPP!!"

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 04, 2009 09:03 AM (ERJIu)

54 Guarantee you that of the 34% who oppose the tax cuts, almost 100% of them are in the 0% tax bracket.

Posted by: Greg at February 04, 2009 09:14 AM (6cvPQ)

Guarantee you that of the 34% who oppose the tax cuts, almost 100% of them are in the 0% tax bracket.