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October 30, 2009

Potential Deal Reached In Honduras
— DrewM

Looks like there will be a temporary power sharing agreement that lets Zelaya back in but with some limitations on his power.

The deal, struck late on Thursday, will allow the country's Congress to vote on whether Mr. Zelaya, forced out of power at gunpoint on June 28, can return to oversee the country's national elections scheduled for November 29 and serve out his term, which ends in January.
...U.S. officials and many analysts were confident the deal would hold. Among other things, it calls for a government of national unity and for all sides to recognize the result of the November election. It also would restrict Mr. Zelaya's power if he does return through several means, including handing power of the armed forces temporarily to the top electoral body.

It's not a done deal yet as many in the Honduran Congress aren't thrilled with letting this little Chavez wanna be anywhere near the levers of power.

Here are the bits that bother me.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, during a visit to Islamabad, called it "an historic agreement," saying it was the first time that a Latin American country had suffered a break in the constitutional order that had been normalized through talks and non-violence.
...If the deal holds, it will go down as a foreign policy victory for Obama administration, which sent a high-level diplomatic mission to Honduras earlier this week to secure a deal after five months of one of Latin America's biggest political crisis in years.

Screw them. The Obama administration has bungled this from the start. What the Honduran's did was well within their legal framework and we should have supported them as they worked through this crisis.

The fact that the United States took the side of two-bit thug and punished a small country for having the temerity to chose the rule of law over tyranny. The fact that we were on the wrong side of this fight from the get go is not a victory but a mark of shame we will carry for a long while.

Good luck to the Honduran people and please know that what Obama did was Not In My Name.

Posted by: DrewM at 11:53 AM | Comments (100)
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1 If Obama believes Zelaya should be in power in Honduras does he also believe Blagojevich should be in power in Illinois?

Posted by: Diego at October 30, 2009 11:56 AM (33s91)

2 Zero and the Hildebeast are not friends of freedom or truth. Power hungry thugs that need to be contained, period.

Posted by: mbruce at October 30, 2009 11:57 AM (t/GDA)

Correction ....Not in Our Name

If asshole Lefties get to use that acronym, legit folk oughta

Nice move Obongo and MLEBW ( Monica Lweinskys' ex-boyfriends' wife )

Posted by: OhioDude at October 30, 2009 11:57 AM (ngLx8)

4 Barack. Baby. Think Zelaya needs a little help "overseein" that election?

Posted by: Bertha Lewis at October 30, 2009 12:00 PM (wAQA5)

5 Prediction: Zelaya refuses to leave after election, civil war ensues.

Posted by: Dr. Do-it-yourself at October 30, 2009 12:00 PM (DIYmd)

6 Flaming skull. Per Drudge, Joe Lieberman will support some GOP candidates in 2010.

Posted by: phoenixrisen at October 30, 2009 12:01 PM (ihWM2)

Corrupt thugs of a feather flock together. Obambi just recognized a kindred spirit. It'd be a shame if something happens to Zelaya while he tries to get rid of that pesky constitution. As for Obambi, I pray for our secret service, and pray that we make it to the four year mark. I figure if he manages to get reelected, there's nothing worth saving anymore, and it's time to start over.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at October 30, 2009 12:02 PM (pZEar)

8 Unfortunately, there's very little we, as Americans can do to oppose Zelaya. Because our President is a dangerous, leftist asshat (and it's hard enough to successfully work against him locally...)

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 30, 2009 12:03 PM (NPtVh)

9 You see? Another job saved or created!

Posted by: President Obama at October 30, 2009 12:03 PM (lx7Wx)

10 This is one of the greatest injustices done in the last 50 years.

Posted by: Truman North at October 30, 2009 12:04 PM (e8YaH)

11 At least Zelaya has lost something very important: the element of surprise.

Every Honduran official KNOWS this joke will try a coup or something.

Posted by: Techie at October 30, 2009 12:05 PM (cxW4X)

12 The only thing the Obamamites did in our name was probably vote. Democrat.

Just ask Al Franken.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 30, 2009 12:05 PM (J5Hcw)

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Whats the over/under on Zelaya being found slumped over his desk with a bullet wound to the back of the skull before he's out of office ?

Posted by: Blazer at October 30, 2009 12:06 PM (AoS9J)

Early candidate for thread-winner.

Posted by: The Q at October 30, 2009 12:06 PM (pfStM)

15 OT. Joe Biden to campaign for Owens in NY23.

Posted by: CUS at October 30, 2009 12:06 PM (wOGfT)

16 When are we on the Right going to start one of those "apologize to the world" photo blogs like the left did during the Iraq War? You know, when they would hold up cutesy little signs saying "People of the world, we're sorry for our president".

"Sorry Honduras for our Toonces-in-Chief"
"Sorry Poland, I guess you don't need our help"
"I am sorry that the Stimulus will suck all your liquidity away, developing countries"

Etc.

Posted by: Gabriel Syme at October 30, 2009 12:07 PM (X2xSP)

17 No shit, CUS? That's awesome. Biden couldn't convince ACORN to vote for someone.

Posted by: Truman North at October 30, 2009 12:07 PM (e8YaH)

18 All this power sharing means is somehow, Obamba has a face saving moment.

Posted by: CUS at October 30, 2009 12:08 PM (wOGfT)

19 That does it, Obama swallows!!!!!!!

Posted by: Todd (the guy who is back to saying obama swallows) at October 30, 2009 12:08 PM (LLOGQ)

20 No shit, Truman.

Posted by: CUS at October 30, 2009 12:09 PM (wOGfT)

Wow, CUS shits me not! lol

Good day to all morons and moronettes! Best regards!

Posted by: Truman North at October 30, 2009 12:10 PM (e8YaH)

22 That does it, Obama swallows!!!!!!!

What's the front part of that joke? Hillary sucks, but Obama swallows.

Posted by: CUS at October 30, 2009 12:10 PM (wOGfT)

23 What is it with the genetic rightwing hard-on for Central American military juntas?

Weird.

Posted by: Cardinal Romero at October 30, 2009 12:12 PM (SUU19)

Creating or saving third world thug jobs the world over. See ? The stimulus works.

How my ass taste freedom and democracy ?

Posted by: Barry Mugabe at October 30, 2009 12:13 PM (AoS9J)

25 Just another banana republic that doesn't sell bananas!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 30, 2009 12:14 PM (ZoHEm)

26 O/T: I can't believe that Hot Air has a Boobie post and Ace doesn't!
http://tinyurl.com/y99y7bu

Posted by: RoadRunner at October 30, 2009 12:14 PM (e3rOI)

27 What is it with the genetic rightwing hard-on for Central American military juntas?

Weird.

You mean like Che, Castro, and Ortega??

Posted by: fixerupper at October 30, 2009 12:15 PM (J5Hcw)

28

1. Zelaya refuses to leave after election
2. ???
3. Profit!

Posted by: can't let go of old memes at October 30, 2009 12:15 PM (PD1tk)

What is it with the genetic rightwing hard-on for Central American military juntas?

Weird.

Posted by: Cardinal Romero at October 30, 2009 05:12 PM (SUU19)

No different than how the left gets all hot & bothered by Communist regimes in North Korea, Vietnam and Cuba...... I guess.

Posted by: Blazer at October 30, 2009 12:17 PM (AoS9J)

30

1. Cardinal Romero
2. ???
3. Pink-assed ergy

Posted by: can't let go of old memes at October 30, 2009 12:17 PM (PD1tk)

31 What is it with Lefties and Latino Dictators?

Castro, Chavez, Ortega, etc. etc.

Posted by: Techie at October 30, 2009 12:20 PM (cxW4X)

32 It wasn't that long ago that I was proud of my country. If this goes on long, only the memory will be left.

Posted by: jodetoad at October 30, 2009 12:21 PM (KApHa)

33 You know, I'd comment, but the local news station is showing that clip of the bimbo playing with... err, I mean, "examining," her breasts. I have to pay close attention, because I intend to volunteer to help younger (and therefore, less experienced) women with their breasts. White Man's Burden, my friend... White Man's Burden.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 30, 2009 12:22 PM (QECjC)

34 I won!

Posted by: Barack Zelaya at October 30, 2009 12:23 PM (tcMQZ)

35 #31: What is is opportunity for exploitation due to the lack of an educated middle class. Come to think of it, public education is pushing Americans closer to that "location"; that's how we got HopeyChangeyMan

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 30, 2009 12:23 PM (NPtVh)

36 You mean like Che, Castro, and Ortega??

Yeah, not to mention Chavez and Morales.

Fuck off, erg, you tiresome little twat.

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 30, 2009 12:23 PM (eR37w)

37 It has to be the uniforms.

I mean, if George W. Bus-----er....SATAN, had decided that he still wanted to be President even though we have a constitutional amendment forbidding his re-election, ran around Congress and had, I dunno, Syria help him organize an illegal "referendum" giving him unlimited future terms. Zelaya's supports would have been fine with that? It is to laugh.

Posted by: Techie at October 30, 2009 12:24 PM (cxW4X)

38 #23 - Jackass, the removal of Zelayas, a LEFT-wing wanna-be dictator, was legal.

http://media.sfexaminer.com/documents/ -space- 2009-002965HNRPT.pdf

http://opencrs.com/document/ -space- RL34027/

Why the reflexive lefty hard-on for dictators?

Posted by: butch at October 30, 2009 12:24 PM (myCYQ)

39 The title of the preceding post on Ace of Spades had something to do with cow farts; and what Hillary had to say in Islamabad today about Honduras had a lot to do with cow farts as well. Come to think about it, her version of "smart diplomacy" in Pakistan yesterday had a lot to do with cow farts as well.

Posted by: Happy Fellow at October 30, 2009 12:25 PM (w6nDa)

40 From what I've heard, Zelaya will be saddled with a very hostile legislature and military, keeping him in line, for a few weeks before the Honduran people get their chance to vote the thug out of office. IF things work out like that, it might be the best possible outcome short of a bullet between the bastard's ears.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 30, 2009 12:25 PM (QECjC)

41 What is it with the genetic rightwing hard-on for Central American military juntas? Let me 'splain it like this, cardinal Imagine if W in February '08 decided that he was going to run for re-election, then the military removed him from office. The military then put Nancy Pelosi in office until the election in November. That is the best analogy I've got. One guy oversteps his authority, the yank him out of the way and carry on.

Posted by: fluffy, shoveling against the tide at October 30, 2009 12:29 PM (4Kl5M)

42 Posted by: Techie at October 30, 2009 05:24 PM (cxW4X) What he said.

Posted by: fluffy at October 30, 2009 12:30 PM (4Kl5M)

43 I have said it before, can someone please wake me up from this nightmare?

Posted by: Todd (the guy who is back to saying obama swallows) at October 30, 2009 12:30 PM (LLOGQ)

44 What is it with the genetic rightwing hard-on for Central American military juntas?

It's about something I heard once called "national security". Obama? Oh yeah.......just a second. Huh?

Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at October 30, 2009 12:31 PM (T1+HN)

What is it with the genetic rightwing hard-on for Central American military juntas?

You're a bit confused as to who is supportig the wannbe junta here.

Hint - it's you and the Lightworker.

Posted by: flenser at October 30, 2009 12:37 PM (dkQaj)

Obama is a vapid fraud wrapped up in an empty sham, and packaged as a pretty scam. He will always be on the wrong side of everything (Iran elections, Honduran ousting of Zelaya, dithering on Afghanistan, meeting with Iran and the Norks without preconditions, revoking the missile shield in Eastern Europe, refusing face time with the Dali Lama to placate China, nationalizing car companies, the banking industry and health care, and hobnobbing with various and sundry dictator thugs). Everything this man does is going to lead to epic failure and chaos. I can't believe that Hillary would be so stupid and weak to be tied to him, but she's an idiot too. I pray to God that we survive this trainwreck of an Administration and the Congress that we've been cursed with. Thanks a lot 52%. I'm sure the people in Honduras, Iran, Poland, the Czech Republic and Tibe want to extend their thanks too.

Posted by: runningrn at October 30, 2009 12:38 PM (qP2BK)

47 No matter what happens anywhere, it is a triumph for Obama as far as the media are concerned.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 30, 2009 12:50 PM (IEJ4J)

48 You guys are always bellowing about democracy, freedom, rights. But when it comes to democratically elected leftist governments, it's Junta Time!

Isn't it about time our armed forces officers depose Obama? Wasn't he born in Africa? I mean, my God.

Posted by: Cardinal Romero at October 30, 2009 12:50 PM (SUU19)

You guys are always bellowing about democracy, freedom, rights. But when it comes to democratically elected leftist governments, it's Junta Time!

Forgot to turn on your oxy-moron detector I see.

Posted by: Blazer at October 30, 2009 12:56 PM (AoS9J)

50 "No matter what happens anywhere, it is a triumph for Obama as far as the media are concerned."

And if things somehow turn to shit down there, when Zippy is back; Barry's freaking ass is going to be held responsible. Along with 'the smartest woman in the world'.

Posted by: GarandFan at October 30, 2009 12:58 PM (ZQBnQ)

we bellow a lot about the Constitution.

the hondrauian military upheld theirs.

Posted by: NSM at October 30, 2009 01:08 PM (RxUMK)

Read the fucking nonsense that THUNDER THIGHS RODHAMS said.

Does this fucking bitch EVER tell the truth.

There was no break down in the Constitutional order, quite the contrary.

Posted by: gus at October 30, 2009 01:10 PM (Vqruj)

53 The negotiated agreement is a neat trap for both Zelaya and Obama. If the democratically-elected Congress of Honduras votes not to reinstate Zelaya, they will by definition be acting democratically, and the Obama Administration will no longer be able to call Zelaya's absence from office "undemocratic."

Posted by: stuiec at October 30, 2009 01:12 PM (7AOgy)

54 release the embargoed Harold Koh Memo!

Posted by: Frank G at October 30, 2009 01:21 PM (I+To0)

55 46 Obama is a vapid fraud wrapped up in an empty sham, and packaged as a pretty scam.

Geebeezus! It's like TPM or the Daily Kos around here. Quit sugar-coating your feelings, already!
/s

Posted by: Y-not at October 30, 2009 01:24 PM (sey23)

56 Hopefully it is a deal deal. Let him walk out of the embassy, grab him, try him, and hang him. There is no reason the Honduran police need not use deception to arrest a fugitive.

Posted by: Jean at October 30, 2009 01:27 PM (xCBQ4)

What would they do to him in Iran?

We all know the answer He'd be dead now.

Posted by: gus at October 30, 2009 01:45 PM (Vqruj)

58 It's not a junta. The military is not in charge.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 30, 2009 02:02 PM (T0NGe)

Isn't it about time our armed forces officers depose Obama? Wasn't he born in Africa? I mean, my God.

You rang?

Posted by: Gen. McChrystal at October 30, 2009 02:12 PM (wAQA5)

Help put a Conservative/pitbull in Pelosi's back yard.

Harmerforcongress.com

He can win the special election in California's 10th district. Not much time left. Throw him a bone.

Posted by: mghorning at October 30, 2009 02:24 PM (dVpOV)

Cardinal Romero

Isn't he the gay priest who chases Batman around?

Posted by: guy who bellows about democracy at October 30, 2009 02:25 PM (wAQA5)

62 The correctness of Honduras' removal of Zelaya is even clearer when contrasted with recent events in next-door neighbor Nicaragua, where apparently a packed court, acting quickly before opposition judges could arrive, voted to overturn a similar president-for-only-one-term law, paving the way for Daniel Ortega to go full Chavez.

Posted by: Ghidrah's haberdasher at October 30, 2009 02:34 PM (13Fwt)

63 he's a Moby-troll who does not exemplify the dignified conversation commonly held here. Have at 'em. Dibs on the Mangina!

Posted by: Frank G at October 30, 2009 02:35 PM (I+To0)

64 The Wall Street Journal seems to think Hillary and Obama got played for suckers on this one: http://tinyurl.com/yh76opk

Posted by: wombat-socho at October 30, 2009 02:43 PM (4S8kW)

65 erg's got nuthin'

never does.

Posted by: toby928 at October 30, 2009 03:13 PM (PD1tk)

66 Cardinal: "You guys are always bellowing about democracy, freedom, rights. But when it comes to democratically elected leftist governments, it's Junta Time!"

So, in lefty land, when a President violates an explicit part of the country's constitution, and the Supreme Court of that country orders him to be arrested, and the military carries out that order... that is a coup?

That word junta, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: qrstuv at October 30, 2009 04:33 PM (SSVGw)

Obviously we cannot give allegiance to the criminal regime in Washington until such time as Presidente Richard Hussein Nixon is restored to the office which was stolen from him in a illegal coup by Democrats in 1974.

And since Nixon, Agnew and Ford are all gone now, power must devolve to a remaining high-level member of the Nixon Administration.

Hmmmlets seewho could we get?got it!

Welcome back to the White HousePresident Rumsfeld!

Posted by: Noel at October 30, 2009 04:52 PM (Hh13R)

68 It's sort of amazing how the execution of a nephew can change the political scene that quickly. It's even more amazing how that execution can be neglected in all the news reporting of this "deal" that The Precedent and the feral government of the US has imposed on Honduras, in support of the leftist dictator wannabe with the tin foil windows.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at October 30, 2009 07:05 PM (A46hP)

69 No, no, no, no! If they compromise their constitution to give in to this power hungry communist, even the tiniest bit, they'll be throwing their country away. Clinton wouldn't know a "break in the constitutional order" if it smacked her upside the head with a bat, and any Honduran that listens to her is a fool or traitor. For the sake of existence, they must not give in to unlawful international pressure to reinstate this wannabe dictator.

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