September 26, 2008

Palin Must Quit? (Kat-Mo)
— Open Blog

Kathleen Parker is struck by the Eagleton Fairy.

I'm not going to cut any part out and paste it. Parker gets a load of the Big Financial problem in our face and decides that Palin is incapable of handling the crisis and she should leave the national politics of crashing markets to the idiot national politicians that got us here in the first place.

Brilliant idea.

Then she totally buys into the Obama campaign's "heartbeat away from the presidency" crap. Palin's not ready to be President?

No kidding, Sherlock, that's why she's on the ticket as a VP. She's meant to do what VPs normally do: beat the drum for the president's policies, help organize the team and, maybe, spearhead some programs. She's not here to run the world from the VP's office. If she's good, she'll learn the job and come out fighting in 2012. If not, unless she accidentally shoots McCain on a moose hunting trip, this is a non-issue. I think some folks just got a little too used to Dick Cheney being a power player in the background. That worked out well, huh? And, seriously, Joe Biden...Uncle Joe as VP. He's out there blundering around like a blind man in a midget porn shop.

"Oh...excuse me. So sorry...pardon me, is that your...aw, Gawd luv ya...stand up! Stand up! What? You are standing? What was I touching?"

I don't care about Joe's "Foreign Policy" experience. Does anybody really think Biden is going to be out front of an Obama presidency "representin'"?

Secondly, maybe Kathleen didn't get the talking points memo from DKos? John McCain is a vampire. He can't die. He is going to suck all of the joy out of every little Democrat kid praying for an Obama presidency and live for another term.

Look, Kathleen...can I call you "Kathleen"? Get your panties out of a twist. Seriously, if you want to vote for Obama because you are scared about McCain's presidency, just come out and say it. Don't get all righteous now and pretend Palin's VP slot matters more than it does.

Seriously, anybody suggesting the Eagleton option 40 days from the election, is suggesting that McCain default on the election. Don't vote for him if it bothers you that much, but stop acting like this is even an option.

Grab a bag and start breathing into it. You're hyperventilating all over the election.

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As far as the Couric interview or even Gibson, she's doing what she was asked to do by the McCain folks. She's sticking directly to the McCain policies and saying his name a lot. They don't want her to go off the reservation too much because they know that the press and the opponents are not going to forgive her like they do Biden's "coal plants" moments. They aren't.

Jesus, Mary and Sarah Palin know it, too. You don't like the format? We're playing high stakes poker here, not penny ante making a wish on the pages of NRO.

Yes, I'd love to hear if she has some other thoughts on how to the run the government, but she's the VP not the president. It is McCain's policies that matter.

You can ask Sarah for her opinion on the subject in 2012.

Update: Crackerhead (can I say "cracker?") Rod Drehr throws in "I'm embarrased for her."

Seriously? Have you looked in the mirror lately?

UPDATE: Down in comments, I thought this earlier:

Oh, there may be one more thing. We all want her to be awesome-fucking-brilliant and instead she's only pretty damn good. The disappoint pains more than the damn-goodness rewards.

She'll get over it and so will the rest of us.

That's it, really. I like Sarah Palin. I really like her. But I don't have to love her. Besides the fact that I don't swing that way, the point is, she's the VP slot. Half of these people are acting like they just had their first teenage crush only to discover that the love of their life actually wears braces and has pimples.

Yes. I want Palin to be "normal" America. I don't give a monkey's ass about being able to give a f*cking Shakespearian Oratory without stuttering. I want her to be normal because I'm tired of the "I've been to Washington for 90 f*cking years so lick my boot" politicians. I dislike the new politicians who already know they are politicians and get absorbed into Washington like freaking members of the borg. Obama.

I don't want her to fit in. I don't want her to look like them or act like them.

That is the whole point. The rest of these sad f*cks just can't get over that they aren't dating Margaret Thatcher in Claudia Schiffer's body.

It's just Sarah Palin, Hockey Mom with a Veto pin that she's not a fraid to use.

Get it?

Posted by: Open Blog at 06:17 AM | Comments (179)
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1 Palin is doing her job. The Republican base is enthusiastically holding firm because of her presence on the ticket in spite of the constant attacks.

Posted by: Scott at September 26, 2008 06:20 AM (A+pZA)

2 Ask Palin to quit the ticket.  What a brilliant idea... if you're an Obamabot.  It won't happen but if it does, The Douchebag Messiah will win in a Reagan-like landslide as Republicans stay home by the thousands.

Posted by: Reiver at September 26, 2008 06:22 AM (Yi1Sk)

3

I finally pointed out to a friend who's been pulling that "heart beat away" gambit that it's exceedingly unlikely that John McCain will not predecease his mother - so I'll vote for the guy that's qualified for the job.

Obama - Give Me One Fucking Reason to Consider Voting For Him - that Actually Involves Him and Something He's Done - and I Might Listen.

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Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 26, 2008 06:23 AM (NnAGL)

4

Also, Palin's got more (especially executive) experience than Obama, who is, actually, running for the top job.

(Further, it's not like ditching Eagleton was the Hail Mary that won the election; whatshisname lost anyway.)

Posted by: Some Guy at September 26, 2008 06:23 AM (lPxkl)

5 Jesus Christ, more from the country club Romney-heads over at National Review. Kathleen must be feeling uncomfortable having to defend the Republican Party at the cocktail parties that she attends. Did you know she's married to a lawyer and is an alumnus of the University of San Francisco? Elitist all the way, not happy having to share their political party with NASCAR-watching, mouth-breathing cretins like use.

Posted by: Jim62sch at September 26, 2008 06:24 AM (ubHgw)

6

Parker gets a load of the Big Financial problem in our face and decides that Palin is incapable of handling the crisis and she should leave the national politics of crashing markets to the idiot national politicians that got us here in the first place.

Because cool heads, dispassionate views and unquestioned experience at fucking things up is an absolute necessity at times like this.  Don't believe me, ask Chris Dodd.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 26, 2008 06:25 AM (B+qrE)

7

It is too late for the elites, right or left, to kill off Palin.  This attack as the others will be drowned out in the fury of the campaign.

The VP debate will be the next major decision point for Palin with most of the normal voters--and even that will be overshadowed by McCain vs. Obama.

 

Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 26, 2008 06:25 AM (MSMPS)

8 Perhaps Ms. Parker needs to be reminded of the bit about the only thing to fear is fear itself. Meaning stupid decisions driven by panic.

By her measure, we should be giving Hank Paulsen temporary dictatorial powers to make everything OK again. Just until then and then we have an election.

Posted by: epobirs at September 26, 2008 06:26 AM (eIO0m)

9

Yeah, I'm really about at wit's end with these nattering nabobs.  Nobody's asking Kathleen Parker to stuff her apparently much self-regarded intellectual honesty, but there is a time and a place, and now is not the time to be hollering for Sarah Palin to step down, unless you are really really sure that handing things over to Barack Obama is going to be a grand improvement.

To refrain from courting disaster at the height of a campaign isn't the same thing as making yourself a lapdog propagandist for your party, and I wish some of these East Coast conservative pundits would grasp this and let go of their narcissism for two fucking seconds once in a while.

Time and place.

I, for one, cannot wait to vote for Sarah Palin.  On the other hand, my interest in reading Kathleen Parker has withdrawn for the sake of my mental health.

Posted by: Kensington at September 26, 2008 06:29 AM (kFwRi)

10 I wonder if NRO realizes how much they've tarnished their brand lately? 

Posted by: Slublog at September 26, 2008 06:30 AM (R8+nJ)

11 Kathleen Parker? Another amateur who gazes into her navel and sees poetry--not to mention stretch marks.

Posted by: Fresh Air at September 26, 2008 06:30 AM (HHGT+)

12 Parker sounds very much like the "I'm a christian" but I am really having second thoughts trolls.  Her article starts with I really, really, really wanted her to do good ya know, but now......not so sure.

Posted by: Mike J at September 26, 2008 06:30 AM (dqBde)

13 Kathy - can I call her Kathy? - has gradually fallen for The One. She is smitten, as they say, and has only one move left: announce her allegiance. She tries to hide behind an O'Reilly-esque "balanced" thinking, but the cover has come off. As has been said, vote for the idiot if you want, but enough with the covert nonsense...

Posted by: JS at September 26, 2008 06:32 AM (zsax9)

14 Sarah Palin is, ideologically if not literally, one of the first 2000 names in the Boston phone book. Where is Zombie Bill Buckley when we need to him to kick ass among his now-heretical acolytes?

Posted by: Jim62sch at September 26, 2008 06:32 AM (ubHgw)

15 That's NASCAR watching, mouth breathing, moose stripping, Walmart shopping, snowmobile driving cretins, Jim.  You know, people who eat what they kill.  And what the hell does Parker have to be so stuck up about,  She graduated from the university of a town?  Governor Palin graduated from the university of a state.  How about them apples?

Posted by: huerfano at September 26, 2008 06:32 AM (knHvu)

16 I wonder if NRO realizes how much they've tarnished their brand lately?

Let them know. I have.

And screw Kathleen Parker. This is the second week in a row she's written an article critical of Palin which amounts to nothing more than bitchy whining.

Same with Allah. He has a problem with Palin but won't come out and say it because he knows he'd be savaged by his readers. So being the beta male pussy that he is, he trashes her passive/agressively by linking all this Palin bashing in the headlines over at Hot Air.

Posted by: Manco at September 26, 2008 06:33 AM (5QPbL)

17 I , for one, cannot wait to vote for Sarah Palin.  On the other hand, my interest in reading Kathleen Parker has withdrawn for the sake of my mental health. far up inside my body cavity like my shriveled sack on a cold morning.

Fixed.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2008 06:34 AM (FO+YO)

18 Where did they get these clowns that write for the NRO?
Is Parker upset about Palin because of what it will mean to the Elite RINO group if Palin becomes the star that many of the base want her to become?

K

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at September 26, 2008 06:35 AM (Jnwn9)

19

I kinda love seeing the "smart" pundits on our side get all worked up over Palin. In a way, they are imbued with the same "Smarter Than Thou" attitude most liberals have.

 

And the same is starting to creep into many righty bloggers, and it is getting frustrating.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 26, 2008 06:36 AM (wnU1W)

20

An Open Letter to Kathleen Parker:

Dear Kathleen,

Out of her league?  Let's compare her record to yours:

- She was a two-term mayor

- She was head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission

- She took on a deeply entrenched political machine in Alaska, beat a popular sitting governor of her own party in a primary election, and then won the general election.  During that time she negotiated a pipeline deal that was stuck in the mud, thanks to entrenched interests up there.  And using some of the surplus from Alaska's oil wealth, she managed to return a tidy sum to Alaska's taxpayers instead of pissing it away on useless government pork projects.

- She's done all of this with a degree from little old University of Idaho (not an Ivy league school), and did it while having/raising five childresn.

What have you done, Kathleen?

- You write a syndicated column.

It's clear who's out of their league here, Ms. Parker, and it sure as hell isn't Sarah Palin.

I rest my case.

Posted by: thirteen28 at September 26, 2008 06:38 AM (s8N54)

21

Have I turned into a liberal?  I must be turning into a liberal because these fucking rightwing pundits are pissing me off more and more every day.  That douchebag Dreher is unloading on Sarah this morning, too.

Dude, eat some granola and shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Kensington at September 26, 2008 06:40 AM (kFwRi)

22 16: sadly, Allah (and add Powerline as well) seem untouchable and above reproach among many corners of the rightysphere. I just don't understand why they gets off on wanting to lose.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 26, 2008 06:43 AM (wnU1W)

23 I disagree with your concession that Palin is not ready to be President (if the need arise).  She's plenty ready and plenty qualified.

She's questioned by stupid washington insider nitwits like Parker because she doesn't speak in platitudes like most politicians do.  So she isn't trusted.

Posted by: dan-O at September 26, 2008 06:44 AM (AEBFS)

24 Is Parker upset about Palin because of what it will mean to the Elite RINO group if Palin becomes the star that many of the base want her to become?

Hello... These people are scared to death of the idea that anyone not in their circle would get this high up the political ladder.

Great post, by the way, Kat.

Posted by: A. Weasel at September 26, 2008 06:47 AM (bqcfE)

25

Surely a McCain presidency, given his voting record and his constant boasts of reaching across the isle, must be a least worst result for the Lefties.  I mean the guy is practically one of them.  

No, their real objection with a possible McCain presidency and the reason for all the nasty attacks on Palin is that the Lefties would once again be denied  their rightful place at the seat of power, power that they dearly wish to attain in order to mold this nation into the sort of socialist paradise they dream about.  It's for our own good of course.

If they are a little smarter they would ditch a sinking O and elected McCain.  A president McCain would be an absolute sucker for every bit of bipartisan crap that they come up with.  They could roll this guy for all four years. 

Posted by: canuk at September 26, 2008 06:47 AM (vPj5M)

26 If Parker is so upset, why not jump out the window like the rest of the NY female elite? Or is this just more of the same 'talk the talk'. Hey Kathy, why not just keep the same assholes in DC. You know, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. After all, they've done such a swell job!

Posted by: GarandFan at September 26, 2008 06:48 AM (eJ32B)

27 Ms Parker should watch the CSPAN footage of the Alaska Priamry debates with Palin and sitting Goveronor and 22 year senate veteran Murkowski.  I hear she won whipped out a hunting knife and eviscerated them and ate their still beating hearts right there on stage.

Posted by: XBradTC at September 26, 2008 06:54 AM (wtAQj)

28  

Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

I don't think that her limited knowledge of John McCain's legislative record disqualifies her as Vice President. Why don't the media ask her questions about who she is and what she and done and would do? I think she is being very limited by the McCain campaign b/c they don't want her to make a mistake. I think she should come out swinging and start turning the tables on her questioners: "Why don't you stop asking me questions that come from Bob Eubanks on the Newlywed game!"

I think that she wants to speak her mind but the McCain camp does not want her to trap McCain in any boxes. I think she should bring up her lack of Federal experience as an advantage. Point out how many year of Federal experience the people in congress who have gotten us into this mess have and how little it has helped us. Her job is to be the conservative, middle class, mainstream conscience of a McCain administration. If they do things that make sense to her, they will make sense to us. She's not runing to learn how the "system" works, she's running to change the system.

Obama goes to DC and is presented with a $700 billion check and asked to endorse it, he looks to Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi for approval and then starts signing his name. That is not leadership! If the DNC wants to tie McCain to Bush and his 30% approval rating, it's time to start tying Obama to Harry and nancy and their 15% approval rating!

At least when McCain got asked to sign a $700 billion check, he asked "what the hell for?", "Is this the 'right' thing to do, isn't there another option?" and "how will I know that this won't happen again?".

 

 

Posted by: Michael K at September 26, 2008 06:54 AM (H6VxR)

29 I wonder how much of this is payback for Mrs. Palin's opposition to establishment Republican corruption by Mr. Stevens, et al. Not to mention payback for Mr. McCain's refusal to go along with the $700G Bush/Reid/Pelosi Freddie/Fanny fixeroo. There's something in the water inside the beltway. We'd be lucky to be rid of more than just the Democrat incumbents residing therein.

Ms. Parker is obviously a little slow. The Eagleton meme is soooooo, two weeks ago. Getting sound-bitten by bloated drive-by egos is not Mrs. Palin's fault.

She's drawing fire away from Mr. McCain and she's proving a good wingman.

Posted by: steve poling at September 26, 2008 06:56 AM (UWHTf)

30

Joe Biden.

'nuff said?

Posted by: TomvG at September 26, 2008 06:56 AM (TRJxR)

31 Kat-mo +1

Posted by: I ain't Obama's granny at September 26, 2008 06:57 AM (F1b/5)

32 Is there anyone who honestly believes Palin is ready for the Oval Office?  She is green as hell.  But as Kat-Mo said, that's why she's in the Veep slot.

It's also undeniable that she's an extremely talented politician with what appears to be impeccable conservative (not Republican) credentials.  She fits McCain's milieu of reform and brings a particular strength in the area of energy.

If Palin does nothing but spearhead the effort to ensure America has cheap and plentiful energy she will add more value than a laugh track to the typical Joe Biden stump appearance.


Talent and potential.  Fuck, I remember when Troy Aikman came into the NFL.  He was fucking awful.  Limited experience, unfamiliar surroundings, a questionable supporting cast led to 1-15 season.  He was so bad there were cocksuckers who thought the Cowboys should trade Aikman and keep Steve "Where are they now?" Walsh.

But underneath it all was talent and drive to succeed - Three Super Bowls,. Super Bowl MVP, NFL Hall of Fame.

Granted, the office of Veep is nothing like the pressure cooker of quarterbacking America's team.  But promoting one of the truly talented rising stars of the Republican Party is hardly a mistake.  McCain would be a greasy spot in the road by now without Sarah.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 26, 2008 06:58 AM (4ZOxD)

33

actually, I thought that Palin was good at the debates because she was prepared and intimately knowledgable about Alaska and it's problems having grown up there.

I'm hoping that she is watching herself speak on those and comparing it to her current speaking to see what she can tweak.

It is a matter of putting message to personal translation, not about stupidity.  And, the first rule of politics, if you start losing your place, don't say nothing and don't try to come up with your own answer.  A few throw away lines and some filler goes in every politician.

the difference with some is that they are so smooth selling you the empty filler some folks don't even recognize that's what they've been sold.

that is the entire Obama presidential campaign.

 

Posted by: kat-missouri at September 26, 2008 06:58 AM (YLs4U)

34 She appears to be a twit.  The Couric interview was worse than the Gibson one.  I would give her a break for being new on the national scene, but her babbling idiocies about Alaska being near Russia and Canada qualifying her as a foreign policy expert and attempting to tell Couric what diplomacy made me squirm.

Posted by: galoob at September 26, 2008 07:00 AM (GFaLW)

35 sadly, Allah (and add Powerline as well) seem untouchable and above reproach among many corners of the rightysphere. I just don't understand why they gets off on wanting to lose.

I'd like to organize A Day Without HotAir Readers to put the fear of god in him. He's entitled to his opinion but he is not entitled to use the website to tank Palin.

Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:00 AM (4SGur)

36 You guys don't get it.  If NRO doesn't ditch Palin, Frankie Foer will give Jonah Goldberg SUCH a cutting look at all the Georgetown cocktail parties....

Posted by: andrew sullivan at September 26, 2008 07:02 AM (8JSdG)

37 Palin's somewhat muzzled by the campaign, but they started everything off on the wrong foot by even discussing her 'foreign policy expertise' at all. 

The campaign's whole position should have been "she does what a governor does, as did both Roosevelts, Bill Clinton, etc did, and the idea that tourist travel somehow gives one useful insight into international relations is a fantasy."

She needs to stop the self-justification.  Stop spinning answers out longer than they need to be.  If you can say all you want to say - what YOU want to say, not what the INTERVIEWER wants you to say - in ten seconds, say it and shut up, and let the talking head look foolish trying to fill airtime.

Posted by: mrkwong at September 26, 2008 07:02 AM (G8Eo0)

38 Sarah Palin's worst sins are:

She appears uncertain in interviews. See, Slow-Joe Biden rattles off the goofiest, stupidest, least-informed bullshit of the 21st Century with a big grin and a smooth, confident manner. To the press and TV camera that's more important than knowing anything.

Second and probably more important, she sincerely tries to answer everything. Nobody knows everything. Nobody. She needs to learn to close off a question.

Oh, there may be one more thing. We all want her to be awesome-fucking-brilliant and instead she's only pretty damn good. The disappoint pains more than the damn-goodness rewards.

She'll get over it and so will the rest of us.

Posted by: Ronsonic at September 26, 2008 07:04 AM (ywSvi)

39 High profile bloggers and internet pundits fall into the same sand trap as day traders - there's a tendency to live on the short cycle of the daily news and then overreact.


Posted by: 13times at September 26, 2008 07:05 AM (NB+gU)

40 She appears to be a twit.  The Couric interview was worse than the Gibson one.  I would give her a break for being new on the national scene, but her babbling idiocies about Alaska being near Russia and Canada qualifying her as a foreign policy expert and attempting to tell Couric what diplomacy made me squirm.

Posted by: galoob at September 26, 2008 12:00 PM (GFaLW)

Rocketeer:  Why are you posting under a fake name? Are you afraid to defend the crap you wrote? Pussy.

Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:07 AM (4SGur)

41 I applaud National Review for providing forums to a variety of talent. Of course, in the old print-edition only days, when they got stuck with a bad plum like anti-semite Joe Sobran, it was rather public when they had to axe them. Now, they put them in the NRO bullpen, so when a Coulter or Dreher doesn't measure up they can ease them out a little more quietly. Still not sure why Derbyshire's still there, though. And for every Parker (who will be cut loose soon enough under a "pursuing other opportunties" statement) there's a keeper like Bill Whittle. 

Posted by: Velociman at September 26, 2008 07:09 AM (vZ9Xv)

42 Where did they get these clowns that write for the NRO?

They've always been a bunch of snotty douches that think their shit doesn't stink.  I hate that they're given so much traffic through links that are only occasionally spot on but usually they come off like a bunch of fucking twits with sand in their vags.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 26, 2008 07:12 AM (m2sQh)

43

Whittle, he is The Man...

No way is Palin going to get the hook, at this point.

Posted by: Miller at September 26, 2008 07:13 AM (x10cX)

44 NR is a business - they publish what their benefactors want them to publish, and many of their benefactors are RINOs.  It's often just about the money.  On a related note: for a while they were reluctant publish anti-"intelligent design" pieces, and published a lot of "pro" just because of <i>other</i> benefactors.

But that all said, Parker isn't the only one.  There were also those infamous comments made by Peggy Noonan too.  And it's really all coming down to pettiness.  The "old guard" is irrelevant and they're pissed off about it, and jealousy is even more powerful than money... 

But regardless of whether it's money or pettiness, suck it up assholes, your man Romney lost!  I let my NR sub lapse a long time ago...

Posted by: Kozaburo at September 26, 2008 07:13 AM (z6XWS)

45 Joe Sobran  was/is a Holocaust denier. What a tool!

Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:15 AM (4SGur)

46

You can't spell RINO without an N, an R and an O (and an I when most NRO columnists are talking). 

And if the McCain-Palin ticket does win, then Kathleen can move to Canada. We have alot of Red Tory elitists here too. She'd fit right in.

And if Obama wins, then Kathleen will be in a re-eduction happiness fun camp along with Rod and the other wimps. Maybe Ace's Wolverines will rescue her, but I wouldn't count on it.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:16 AM (zRIIl)

47

Though I disagreed with her evaluation of Palin, I would have had no problem with her column if she would have just left out the call for her to quit. 

With conservative pundits like Kathleen Parker who needs the opposition.

Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 07:17 AM (m2CN7)

48 Yeah, Velociman, I think it's long past time for Derb to find a more suitable outlet for his insights -- Ron Paul's newslettters, perhaps?

Posted by: Kensington at September 26, 2008 07:17 AM (kFwRi)

49 It's not the "moose hunting accident" scenario that makes Palin's fitness for the big chair an issue. McCain is pretty old and has had some cancer. Yes, his mother is still in the game in her mid-nineties. But it's not a crazy concern.

Posted by: Hal at September 26, 2008 07:18 AM (R8UQa)

50 If you don't have a NRO subscription or have let it lapse, the only other way to send them a message is to not link to or click on NRO Online and complain to any news media reprinting their columns. 

And because I'm in such a rebellious mood today:

K-Lo is fat!
K-Lo is fat!
K-Lo is fat!

Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:18 AM (4SGur)

51 at last, another principled conservative!  like me.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at September 26, 2008 07:19 AM (kFwRi)

52 polynikes at September 26, 2008 12:17 PM (m2CN7)

It's the second anti-Palin article she has produced in a week.So, even if you believe she has a legitimate opinion and should be heard, the number of hit jobs these bitches are writing is ridiculous.

Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:21 AM (4SGur)

53 K-Lo is, sadly, the proof that not all conservative wimmens are hot.

Parker is the proof that not all "conservative" wimmens are smart.

Posted by: XBradTC at September 26, 2008 07:22 AM (wtAQj)

54 That guy, Dreher.  How effin' stupid do you have to be to fail formal logic?  I feel ashamed for him.  He cops to not being smart enough to understand an intro undergrad course and I'm supposed to take any of his arguments seriously? 

Posted by: sears poncho at September 26, 2008 07:22 AM (F0d04)

55 "Palin's not ready to be President?
No kidding, Sherlock, that's why she's on the ticket as a VP..."

Hey jackass, you're doing in your post pretty much what you accuse K.Parker in hers.

If Palin is "not ready", that's kind of important - it's not enough to say the old man won't die, we promise he'll hold out for 4 years.

Palin is qualified just fine for the VP job... and something tells me if Palin had the POTUS job right now, ACORN would get nothing at the end of the day, and the deal would be more likely in the interest of the American people...

Posted by: Elpepe at September 26, 2008 07:23 AM (zX2OZ)

56

#38 - Was it the McCain campaign that first started discussing her foreign policy expertise?  I don't remember exactly but I thought it was the opposition and the MSM.

Personally, my favorite thing about her is that she's 'green as hell' - also, that she has integrity.  

This would make a great commercial:  "John McCain is a vampire. He can't die. He is going to suck all of the joy out of every little Democrat kid praying for an Obama presidency and live for another term."   Not only would it be an in-your-face response to the cancer commercial, but it would turn all the little emo Twilight series youth into Republicans.

Posted by: estee at September 26, 2008 07:24 AM (51h4I)

57

I agree with Parker other than the quiting part.  Quiting would sink McCain's campaign, everyone would assume he forced her out no matter what. 

However, I can't believe that anyone could watch any of the three interviews and think she is anything but an extreme lightweight.  Maybe she's nervous and not being herself, trying to stick to McCains talking points.  I don't know but from what I've seen she just flat out doesn't have a clue about much of what she's talking about.  Hate to say it but there it is.

Posted by: Big E at September 26, 2008 07:25 AM (uw1/g)

58 sears poncho

Great nick.

And fuck Dreher too, fucking crunchy cocksucker.

Posted by: Manco at September 26, 2008 07:25 AM (5QPbL)

59

50 It's not the "moose hunting accident" scenario that makes Palin's fitness for the big chair an issue. McCain is pretty old and has had some cancer. Yes, his mother is still in the game in her mid-nineties. But it's not a crazy concern.

Are you a concerned conservative christian?

Posted by: kat-missouri at September 26, 2008 07:26 AM (YLs4U)

60 Palin was good in the debates during the campaign for governor because she knew the territory. She's very good on subjects near and dear to her heart. Now she's being asked questions about subjects she never had to think about as a governor. She may have opinions that are contra to those of McCain, and she can't air those, so she's forced to stick to a script. It's a tough position to be in. Once in office, she will concentrate on certain areas and she will be fine.

The problem with that Couric questioning is the assumption that lack of regulation was the problem. In fact, badly designed regulations were the source of the problem. But besides that, asking for a list of John McCain's positions is just another gotcha question.

Whatever deficits she may show now don't bother me. She has my vote.

Posted by: lmg at September 26, 2008 07:27 AM (A/vgC)

61

I believe a lot of bloggers and pundits are missing one of Palin's most valuable assets to the McCain campaign and the Republican party as well: she will swing the needle back to the right. Many conservatives have a vague sense of abandonment of the core values that were well exemplified by Reagan. This began with  Bush Jr., and McCain's views are even closer to the center. I had thought the choices were bad in the Bush / Gore election, (same for Kerry) but until Sarah Palin came along, I felt the upcoming election offered the worst candidates by both parties this country has ever seen. With Obama being so far left, McCain knew all he had to do was be a smidge to the right and the conservatives would vote for him. What else will they do, vote for Obama? To protest? No. The only other option is a third-party candidate, or to simply not vote. None of those options are anything to get excited about.
Then, along comes Sarah, breathing fire into McCain's image while stealing Obama's 'rock star' thunder. But that is not all: she gets a checkmark for nearly every item on even the most far-to-the-right conservative’s list.

As for experience, it’s the same problem as in any endeavor: you’ve to do it to get it. Sarah seems to actually get things done.

Plus, she looks like Mary Ann: <a href="http://www.zazzle.com/mprenn">See my gallery at Zazzle</a>

Posted by: Spike at September 26, 2008 07:27 AM (dviPZ)

62 yeah, Palin has totally failed to make kook fringe leftists fall in love with McCain, surely we can all agree that only Romney fit that bill.
Whatevers. 

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 26, 2008 07:28 AM (QxSug)

63 Lol.  Snake meet tail.  So good.

Palin is a grade A dumbass who looks super hot in those boots. 

The Gibson interview will live on in history as the beginning of the end of the McCain campaign.

Posted by: frito at September 26, 2008 07:28 AM (N9dF/)

64 Wow.  We are getting trolled left and right.  Frito Bendejo, hard to keep those refried beans from coming back on you, huh pal?

Posted by: kat-missouri at September 26, 2008 07:32 AM (YLs4U)

65 Don't you mean "The expurgated Gibson interview...", fucko?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:35 AM (zRIIl)

66

Ronsonic: Second and probably more important, she sincerely tries to answer everything. Nobody knows everything. Nobody. She needs to learn to close off a question.

So we're dealing with a prospective leader whose first instinct is "if it's on my desk, I must resolve this NOW". If this came up in a performance review at a typical company, the report would be marked "not ready for promotion".

Posted by: David Ross at September 26, 2008 07:35 AM (hAILF)

67 Sorry, I meant "fisto".

Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:35 AM (zRIIl)

68 Oops. I mean "frito".

Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:36 AM (zRIIl)

69 I mean "frito".

I just stick with cracker-boy

Posted by: toby928 at September 26, 2008 07:37 AM (evdj2)

70 So she's a lightweight.  I'd take a talented lightweight with the right instincts over a heavyweight blow hard like Biden who's been repeatedly wrong over 30 years.

Jimmy Carter is a proven fucking commodity, let's put him in charge.  Not conservative enough for you?  Draft James Baker.

Gravitas does not equal correct.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 26, 2008 07:38 AM (4ZOxD)

71 I once heard Palin talk about not being able to burn coal and FDR speaking on TV in 1929.  She even welcomed a wheebound supporter by asking him to stand up to accept his applause.  She's such a dumbass regard to foreign policy she once suggested we give Iran 200 million free and clear so that they may consider liking us.  Heartbeat away from the presidency indeed.

Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 07:39 AM (m2CN7)

72 Didn't cracker-boy have a continuing challenge to name a single accomplishment that justified Obama's promotion?  Did he ever come up with anything?

Posted by: toby928 at September 26, 2008 07:39 AM (evdj2)

73 Sure you liked her, Kathleen. You weren't at all disappointed that it wasn't another colorless VP like Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Elizabeth Dole....you know, one of the Beltway types with whom you've been playing footsie for years.

I think we put Kathleen in the Concerned Christian Conservative pile and be done with her.

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at September 26, 2008 07:42 AM (E3Yxq)

74

"are you a concerned christian conservative"

No, although I am Catholic and conservative, I am not concerned about her fitness. I'm pretty sure she'd make a fine president. I am worried about the political effect of crummy interviews on those who have "one heartbeat away" on their minds.  If Palin comes off as a lightweight, it hurts McCain's chances.

There's no need to accuse me of being a troll or to smear anyone raising the issue as one. I'm voting McCain-Palin and my wife can attest that I was overjoyed to see Palin on the ballot. Indeed, I had sent my dream GOP tickets to my wife in email back in the summer:

2008 McCain-Palin...then Palin-Jindal, then Jindal - <somebody good, dunno>

Posted by: Hal at September 26, 2008 07:45 AM (R8UQa)

75 You admit she isn't ready to be president?

That's why she's in the Veep slot?!?

What.  The.  Fuck.  Is.  That?

Are you kidding me?

Posted by: Seattle Slough at September 26, 2008 07:45 AM (H5l9d)

76 The only problem I have with Palin is that she is NOT at the top of the ticket. Ya'll should read the comments over at TH.

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2008 07:46 AM (b1ysY)

77 And to grab an historical allusion out of the air, you don't sound like you're recommending very stern stuff, David, but seem to be leaning on the darker days' side.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:46 AM (zRIIl)

78

I can't name all the regulatory legislation McCain tried to push through, can any of you?  Why would Governor Palin know?  Is she a McCain historian, is she writing his biograpy?  Palin should have said no, I can't and why should I be able to do so. Couric and all the rest are trying to look like journalists.  Mostly, they look like dicks, at least to people who actually pay attention to the news.  I saw that asshat Roberts on CNN last night trying to push Senator Shelby into saying something disparaging about President Bush, but Shelby stood his ground and said that they simply had different ideas about what to do about the massive fucking bailout boondoggle, with its massive fucking earmarks for ACORN and mortgages that will never be paid off.  It was these super-intelligent Ivy league jerkoffs who made this mess in the first place and when the economy crashes, it isn't going to kill them it's going to kill us.

 

Posted by: huerfano at September 26, 2008 07:47 AM (knHvu)

79

76 You admit she isn't ready to be president?

That's why she's in the Veep slot?!?

What.  The.  Fuck.  Is.  That?

Are you kidding me?

 

Is she on the top of the ticket? 

Posted by: kat-missouri at September 26, 2008 07:49 AM (YLs4U)

80 I have to admit that Palin could have named 3 pieces of legislation where McCain required overbearing regulation when he thought it was needed. I think we know the names and it would not have been wise to bring them up.  Maybe she knew this.

Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 07:50 AM (m2CN7)

81 Seattle Slough:  Don't try to play semantic, gotcha'  Now lets talk about how your uh your uh butt boy uh obama uh can't uh express uh any uh coherent uh policy uh or consistency uh uh uh.

Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:58 AM (4SGur)

82

God I'm sick of this Sarah Palin shit and when it comes from conservatives, it really pisses me off. 

The constant calls for her to quit.

The constant overreaction and hyperventilating.

Is she running for President?  NO.  She's #2 on the ticket. 

Grow up and get over it.  She's not going anywhere.  In fact, she's going to do nothing but get better. 

 

Posted by: SueM at September 26, 2008 08:00 AM (YgYdr)

83 #76

But Obama has the requisite experience for the number one slot?  Are you kidding?
That's the funniest part isn't it.  The Dems HAVE to keep focusing on Palin's experience so their top of the ticket  can look, marginally competent, and even that is questionable to anyone who has caught this guy's act off teleprompter. 

Yeah, quite frankly, I'd take 10 minutes of John McCain and the balance of the term, Palin's, then 30 seconds of Obama. 

Posted by: sears poncho at September 26, 2008 08:01 AM (F0d04)

84 It's not RINOs. It's elitists. And today seems to be the revolt of the elitists. This, Heather MacDonald in city journal, and Peggy Noonan in the WSJ. I told K-Lo if they printed another Village Voice piece, there wouldn't be any more subscription.


Posted by: rightwingprof at September 26, 2008 08:02 AM (52wuV)

85 I didn't watch the Katie Couric interview, but from what others have said online, I was under the impression she didn't do so well.  My parents, average retired folks who watch the news, just stopped by and asked if I'd seen the interview. I said, no (I'd rather be sent to gitmo than watch Katie Couric), and they said Sarah Palin did a good job. Katie looked evil and asked her questions that they thought were unfair, and had never heard anyone asked before.   So, hopefully, they aren't the exception and there are alot of folks out there who think Sarah held up well against evil and unfair Katie Couric.  Just sayin'.

Posted by: estee at September 26, 2008 08:03 AM (51h4I)

86 I told K-Lo if they printed another Village Voice piece, there wouldn't be any more subscription.

Join the club.  I canceled mine during their experimental "Crunchy Con" stage.

Seriously, though, Dreher just went off the deep end with that stuff.

Posted by: Slublog at September 26, 2008 08:04 AM (R8+nJ)

87 I loved this post! Loved it!

Rod Dreher is a serious jerk... He has been searching for perfection forever, and is disappointed that he hasn't found it in Palin. My disgust with him began when he left the Catholic Church to become an Orthodox for accidental reasons (no problem with the Orthodox, but I really don't like this church-hopping: first, Protestant; then, conservative Evangelical; then, Catholic; then, Orthodox)... Trying to find perfection in people, not in God, will always leave one disappointed.

Posted by: oy at September 26, 2008 08:05 AM (FNo7q)

88

Is she on the top of the ticket? 

Nope, she's the other half of a ticket with the top half being in his seventies and having had *serious* health issues.  Pretending they don't exist or for that matter, having others here trying to argue he'll automatically live as long as his mother (is McCain pere still alive for that matter?) does *not* address the issue.  Family medical history in general is a tendency, not a hard and fast indicator of how long you'll live.

Personally, I think she'd do just fine if it should come to pass that we need to move the VP into the Presidency slot.  Argue it from that basis, rather than pretending the VP slot isn't what it is.

Posted by: Lex Luthor at September 26, 2008 08:06 AM (YYanS)

89

Seems to me that everybody's forgetting something--there has never been any person elected President (save a successful incumbent) that's had ANY experience in the office of President.

 Given that, the question of VP Presidential experience is just a tad moot, imho.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 26, 2008 08:10 AM (ud5dN)

90 When Sarah mentioned Washington Pundits in her acceptance speech, she wasn't just talking about the MSM. 

For all their current love for Reagan, NRO was a lot less accepting of him when he wasn't safely out of office. The Country Club set whined and moaned as he dragged the party back out of the irrelevant position they had put it in. 

The NRO crowd see politics as tactics. They don't like populism which either ignores it as irrelevant or embraces positions with fervor. They are like the old theologians arguing about the number of angels dancing on pins.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:11 AM (z1N6a)

91 If Dreher gets on your nerves, you should definitely avoid Mark Shea - whoa!

Posted by: Kozaburo at September 26, 2008 08:12 AM (z6XWS)

92

Every time a troll says "she's not qualified" the should be shown to the Votesmart.org webpage on his record.

Obama has done almost nothing in the highest position he has attained. Plus, he refrained from voting on all the issues lefties are most incensed about, Patreus, FISA, Itellegence Authorization.

Posted by: captkidney at September 26, 2008 08:12 AM (/RDxc)

93 Well actually, Grover Cleveland was IronGrandpa.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:12 AM (z1N6a)

94 Anyone who has watched the Couric interviews of Palin knows the woman isn't fit to be a cub scout den mother, let alone a VP.

Embarrassing.

Posted by: Mr. Moneybag$ at September 26, 2008 08:12 AM (Simq2)

95 Nope, she's the other half of a ticket with the top half being in his seventies and having had *serious* health issues.

If you are referring to McCain's melanoma, he has been cancer free for over 8 years which means it is *not* a serious health issue. He allowed his medical records to be reviewed by the press. Obama did not. He had a note from his doctor, which is not the same thing. What's he hiding? Biden has a history of brain aneuryisms which is a serious condition.

Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 08:13 AM (4SGur)

96 Has Joe Biden ever considered shock therapy? It might help.
It may even cure his stuttering gaffing problem.

Posted by: Breaker19 at September 26, 2008 08:13 AM (7jJXH)

97

#94--yep, your right, forgot that completely.

  Still think the point's valid,tho'.

 

Posted by: irongrampa at September 26, 2008 08:16 AM (ud5dN)

98 Trying to find perfection in people, not in God, will always leave one disappointed.

This is an excellent description of Dreher's hippity-hopping voyage of self-discovery. Odds are, he'll soon find some reason to get annoyed at his EO peeps, stomp off in a huff, and end up in some loony fringe cult somewhere.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2008 08:17 AM (FO+YO)

99
Posted by: Mr. Moneybag$+ Embarrassing.

Nah. Trolling for that hack obama is what is embarrassing.

Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 08:17 AM (4SGur)

100 Hmmmm

People also need to keep in mind that these interviews are almost worthless for Palin.  Sure she gets exposure but she was popular before the interviews so they don't add very much.

What -is- important are the VP debates.  Now consider her interview performance in that light.  IMO I think she's a lot brighter than people are giving her credit for and that she's keeping things very tightly under control.  In this way Mr. Gaffe Machine Biden might be lulled or lead to believe that she'll be easy meat during the debates.

And if that lets her beat his monkey ass with a paddle, then that was good strategy.

Either way, we'll see.

Posted by: memomachine at September 26, 2008 08:19 AM (f4Zt4)

101 The left has Kathleen Parker doing their work for them and we have Bill Clinton doing our work.  Excuse me I just saw some flying pigs outside my window with ice skates on wearing a t-shirt that says I went to Hell and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.

Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 08:19 AM (m2CN7)

102 #86 I think that's a good point. I only saw snippets of the Gibson thing but was at once struck about how close and threatening he looked sitting so close to her with that attitude.  I imagine if you're a woman yourself the impression is even more striking.

Pundits now are using little inside baseball things to confirm their initial dislike of Sarah. Normal folk who have a good impression of her will feel the opposite.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:20 AM (z1N6a)

103 What's he hiding?

Obama can sneak a cigarette in the bathroom, but he can't hide those blue lips,  which are a sure sign of health problems.

Posted by: Breaker19 at September 26, 2008 08:20 AM (7jJXH)

104 It's not RINOs. It's elitists. And today seems to be the revolt of the elitists. This, Heather MacDonald in city journal, and Peggy Noonan in the WSJ. I told K-Lo if they printed another Village Voice piece, there wouldn't be any more subscription.


Posted by: rightwingprof at September 26, 2008 01:02 PM (52wuV)

I don't think so.  I'm certainly no elitist and I just have not been impressed with how Palin has handled the interviews.  I admire what she has been doing in Alaska, I know she's not a dumbass.  However, she doesn't seem to have a grasp on key issues when she is asked.  I'm not talking about the gotcha stuff either, I'm talking about fair questions about Iran about the economy etc.  Too often she lapses into platitudes rather than explaining her position with clarity.  She also needs to learn how to challenge the assumptions made by her questioner.  When Katy Couric asked her the regulation question but then bracketed out McCain's attempts to reform Fannie and Freddie she should have come back at Katie.  You know "why would I exclude John McCain's attempt to reform Fannie and Freddie?  If the reforms JM had proposed had not been blocked by Dems then this entire crisis in the financial sector may never have happened.  Katie, why would you want to exclude that attempt at reform?  I think the American people deserve to know JM saw this crisis coming and was blocked by Dems who were in the pocket of the subprime loan industry, getting sweatheart loans and large campaign contributions."  It was like she didn't want to tangle with the interviewers.  That is what I want to see from her.  Go after their lazy liberal assumptions and petty attempts to play gotcha.  Show some steel.  You've got to be sure you know what you're talking about when you do that though otherwise you wind up coming off like Joe Biden. 

Posted by: Big E at September 26, 2008 08:20 AM (uw1/g)

105 You really have to be pretty detached from reality and deeply entrenched in the MSM echochamber without having come up for air in a really, really long time to think that Couric hatchet job in anyway gives a true representation of Gov. Palin and her abilities. Nobody gives a fuck what these stupid eggheads like Ms Parker have to say except for other stupid eggheads like Ms. Parker. Hammering on Gov. Palin for a list of McCain's legislative accomplishments just exposes the rabid bias and unfairness of Couric and CBS. Big fat fucking yawn. The fucking eggheads and their incestuous brood have done such a fine job pillaging this nation, and Obama is their ultimate incarnation.

Posted by: nord at September 26, 2008 08:20 AM (azL8r)

106

Watching all this, I gotta repeat something posted prior--America has had a knack for having the right person for the right time, in any given situation. The stumbles (Carter) merely point out the correct path we should take. Even a cursory look through our history will bear this out.

  Given that, I see no reason to doubt the same will hold true in THIS situation.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 26, 2008 08:21 AM (ud5dN)

107 #102.  Ill take that trade. You can say a lot about old Bill, but "Irrelevant" isn't one of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:21 AM (z1N6a)

108 Joe Sobran  was/is a Holocaust denier. What a tool!

Sobran is a sad case. He used to be a brilliant columnist back in the day, but he started hitting the paleo-con goofy juice a little too hard, lost his big-time gig at National Review and now he's out there where the buses don't run, screaming at the wind.

I hadn't heard he had degenerated as far as being an actual holocaust denier, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2008 08:22 AM (FO+YO)

109 Ok Kathleen, I'll buy your argument if you are at least consistent. Now point me to her article where she declares John Edwards completely ill-prepared in 2004 and the one from this year where she admits Obama is less ready for the presidency than any other Senator in the chamber, because he has been on the job less than any other Senator.

Posted by: docweasel at September 26, 2008 08:22 AM (XmjZg)

110 Whats with all this knee-jerk Sarah needs to quit bullshit? As far as Allah linking that crap I'm about to stop reading Hot Air. This reminds me of all the hate for Fred! Theres a difference between a little pessimism schtick and that shit.

Regarding health issues- Biden has had very serious health problems. Obama smokes and might have snorted a mountain of coke. And didn't both of his parents die fairly young?

Posted by: POTL at September 26, 2008 08:24 AM (mD4t/)

111 #105  "She should have come back at Katie"

You need to come down out of fantasy land. You are never, never going to come out a winner by blowing up in an interview when they can cut the response any way they like.

Fair questions about Iran and the economy? What nonsense, these aren't fair questions at all. Even if elected, her policy is McCain's policy. Why aren't they asking him, or Obama, or Biden any of these questions? Because these interviews are hatchet jobs specifically designed to destroy her and through her, McCain.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:27 AM (z1N6a)

112 I love Sarah, but for a Southern, her accent is starting to wear thin.  Sorry.

Posted by: Kempermanx at September 26, 2008 08:28 AM (qvT/A)

113 Nope. Not gonna vote for Obama.

Any claim that Palin is ready for the job is a sad, willful blindness.

I wouldn't mind it all, if I could know that were she to become president, her coterie of managers will steer her safely through her term as a figurehead of state, while her cabinet effectively governs.

But, sorry. That sounds like a monarchy to me.

Posted by: Mr. Moneybag$ at September 26, 2008 08:28 AM (Simq2)

114 I agree with Big E. Steel is what she was supposed to have in her major favor. I wanted her to be direct and to respond instead of stonewall - but...and also not so...linear...in her responses. She should have hauled McCain back in around Couric's brackets. I got no place else to go...I'm voting for Mc Cain and his pick for VP. But I still think Eric Cantor would have bagged the centrist voter more easily.

Posted by: Oh; mtcmtauth= at September 26, 2008 08:31 AM (7sl9X)

115 Loosen up, Kathy baby. Why not contemplate Obama's countless cringe-worthy moments? Or maybe that's above the pay grade of such a bitter, clingy columnist.

I'd take Palin's sentence fragments anyday over Obama's countless uuuh, uuuh, uuuhs while his brain struggles to formulate its next well-articulated deception. When Obama's teleprompter broke you heard nothing but stammering for 30 seconds or more. Hey Kathy baby, did you even notice when Palin's teleprompter broke?  I thought so.

Posted by: Lost Near Pittsburgh at September 26, 2008 08:37 AM (lhphN)

116

Any claim that Palin is ready for the job is a sad, willful blindness.

That would be Governor Palin.  The same Governor that closed a 200 million deal that had been stagnated for over a decade. The same Governor that overturned the old boys network . The same Executive who returned money to her constituents. 

Ulms for the blind. Ulms for the blind.

Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 08:38 AM (m2CN7)

117

200 million deal = 40 billion after all is said and done

Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 08:42 AM (m2CN7)

118 To the doubters I am only going to say this once. Shut up. You are buying the spin. If this level of scrutiny was placed on either Ossiah or Joe Biden, do you think they would pass. Palin is not ready to be President. So what. Neither Democrat is ready. Especially the top of the ticket. Obama is a paper leader--he is a good politician-- not a leader. Parker should be demanding investigations into Rezco and ACORN rather than agreeing with the MSM in faux integrity. Where are the gotcha questions to either Biden or Obama? The press is doing this to create doubt and peel off support from what is the strength/passion of the ticket. This crises is proof of what I was already afraid of. The theory of three branches of Government is a lie. I can think of at least two more branches. The press, with it's undue influence, and the Federal Reserve. I can not think of a perfect person to effect meaningful change in all of these branches. So I will be glad to take a person who is built on the idea of service to the people and the constitution.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at September 26, 2008 08:44 AM (e2mBS)

119

I never thought I would be saying this, with a Masters degree from Harvard, but what we need in Washington is courage and integrity, not intelligence and a Twenty Questions champion.  I like McCain-Palin precisely because they are not lawyers, they have lived in the real world, they have dealt with family crises and professional crises with integrity, and they have never forgotten where they came from. 

Sarah Palin is in public service for the right reasons.  She has risen to the point of becoming our next Vice President for the right reasons.  She won an election as a reformer and has an 80% approval rating because she kept her promises and delivered the government people wanted.  You don't have to be a Mensa member to do that; you have to have courage and integrity and you have to work hard.  Those things cannot be taught.  That is far more important to me than being able to out-think Katie Couric in an interview.  That shit she can learn.  But you can't take a selfish, dishonest head case like Barack Obama and teach him to be honest and selfless.  You can't take a liar and self-important blowhard like Joe Biden and make him learn to be humble and truthful.

Posted by: rockmom at September 26, 2008 08:50 AM (iZqUY)

120 113 #105  "She should have come back at Katie"

You need to come down out of fantasy land. You are never, never going to come out a winner by blowing up in an interview when they can cut the response any way they like.

Fair questions about Iran and the economy? What nonsense, these aren't fair questions at all. Even if elected, her policy is McCain's policy. Why aren't they asking him, or Obama, or Biden any of these questions? Because these interviews are hatchet jobs specifically designed to destroy her and through her, McCain.


Old Cat, I saw it suggested on Insty, that she show up for future interviews with her own set of cameras.  Then it would be on these hacks to either consent to the interview and play it honest, or to justify objecting to it. 

Posted by: sears poncho at September 26, 2008 08:53 AM (F0d04)

121 If this level of scrutiny was placed on either Ossiah or Joe Biden, do you think they would pass.

Yes, they would. I'd see to it myself.

Posted by: the MSM at September 26, 2008 08:53 AM (FO+YO)

122 16; 22 Allah is a lightweight, with a kind of O'Reilly-ish act. Much of what he writes, (for example, lying about Christianity) is for the sake of "hits" on that site. He's too cute by half...

Posted by: JS at September 26, 2008 08:55 AM (zsax9)

123 #121 Victor Davis Hanson made the same point in this post: http://tinylink.com/?bLXYdkguuc Essentially saying that life experience can trump beltway and ivy league education.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at September 26, 2008 09:03 AM (e2mBS)

124 Allah is no lightweight. He's a sharp-eyed practical man, apt to see things clearly, if through a darkish lense of human nature that he seems to have gained through much introspection. I see Kat Mo's point, however. I see Palin I see shades of Reagan... so I'm all "what would Reagan do" in my anticipations. When she doesn't do it I kick the earth.

Posted by: Oh; mtcmtauth= at September 26, 2008 09:03 AM (7sl9X)

125 Correction: "In Palin I see"

Posted by: Oh; mtcmtauth= at September 26, 2008 09:04 AM (7sl9X)

126 Good posting, Kat-Mo...keep it up.  You can tell you're doing a great job, cuz some people are jealous!! 

Posted by: Ann at September 26, 2008 09:06 AM (c3H+i)

127 Oh; mtcmtauth= SarahW. Not sure how I managed that in the name box.

Posted by: SarahW at September 26, 2008 09:06 AM (7sl9X)

128

I see Kat Mo's point, however. I see Palin I see shades of Reagan... so I'm all "what would Reagan do" in my anticipations.
When she doesn't do it I kick the earth.

Yeah, I see shades of Reagan in her as well. However one thing Reagan had that she doesn't is decades of public speaking about national issues. I'm pretty sure that she can eventually master this, but she just called up to teh show a little early.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 26, 2008 09:08 AM (1lhPq)

129

She's still my Maggie Schiffer. 

Posted by: Mark in Portland at September 26, 2008 09:15 AM (+45yf)

130

I'm glad you posted on this. I saw Kathleen Parker's piece and I was pissed too.

First of all, that Palin was "outclassed" by Katie f'n Couric is a joke.

Katie is an even bigger lightweight twit than Charlie Gibson. Like him, she mugged and telegraphed her contempt with every question. It makes me sick that Parker fell for that shit. Example one: can you name even one time John McCain tried to solve the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac problem with "more regulation"? Well no, dumbass, McCain's not for more regulation, he's a Republican. And more regulation was not the problem in the first place. The problem was the regulations that were already on the books. Like the regulations that allowed Janet Reno to threaten to close down any bank that didn't write enough sub-prime paper, for one. That's part of what caused the mess in the first place, Katie, so why would McCain advocate more regulation, and why would Palin know about it? Couric got the smartest answer to her stupid question that she could have expected, and Parker's the stupid one for not seeing that -- not Palin.

Anyone, including and perhaps especially Henry Kissinger, could be made to look stupid with an anchor who's reacting like he's retarded and cutting the piece to make him look like a bumbling Colonel Klink. And I mean anyone. That Parker doesn't see that this was the essence of a hatchet job means she's not quite as sophisticated as she apparently believes. Fuck 'em all.

Posted by: CornFedBeauty at September 26, 2008 09:20 AM (8r/RM)

131

"Too often she lapses into platitudes rather than explaining her position with clarity"

The POL (Party of Lawyers) informs me that this is a feature, not a bug.

 

Posted by: Bel Aire at September 26, 2008 09:22 AM (ocHBO)

132 Personally, I think she'd do just fine if it should come to pass that we need to move the VP into the Presidency slot.

Word.

Posted by: toby928 at September 26, 2008 09:38 AM (evdj2)

133 Oh FUCK this nonsense. Couric AMBUSHED Palin with some phony question straight from the MSM's war on McCain. Poor non-insider Sarah had apparently been getting up to speed on the ISSUES instead. So she didn't know -- as Couric UNDOUBTEDLY  did -- that Davis had divested himself from any lobbyistic, FMA-connected interests.

Did you hear me? FUCK this nonsense.

Posted by: arhooley at September 26, 2008 09:50 AM (vAS98)

134

I saw the Parker piece, and I thought my head was going to explode. However, I'm wondering how NRO has tarnished its brand? I'm not asking rhetorically. I found this site through them; I visit NRO at least once a day. I am wondering what you are seeing that I am not. NRO appears to be a big tent. When Dreher went off on his crunchy conservatism, Jonah Goldberg wrote an article poo pooing it. You have Derbyshire, and you have Ramesh Ponnuru. They were (and perhaps still are) at each other's throats on social issue. I don't get a lot of elitism from NRO. Victor Davis Hanson writes for NRO, and he's a huge Palin defender. If you are referencing their support, and enduring affection for Romney, what's wrong with him. He doesn't set the world on fire, but I think he's a solid conservative.

I was not surprised when McCain picked Palin because K-Lo had written of her, favorably, as a possibility.

As to the Parker article, I think you'd have to be drinking the right-wing populist Kool-aid to say that Palin is perfect just as she is (I'm talking experience and knowledge, not character and methods). To not acknowledge, however, with any criticism of Palin that the bar has been lowered significantly by the coronation nomination of Barack Obama is intellectually dishonest. To not recognize that Palin looks as she does in interviews because they are as hostile as any interview I have every seen, while the One has been the recipient of kid glove treatment. Furthermore, the economy and foriegn affairs aren't even Parker's forte. She has a BA and MA in Spanish Literature (per Wikipedia for what that's worth) and she writes on culture (specifically the way men are treated in society). Like Peggy Noonan, she's just not an expert on these things.

Posted by: Niclun at September 26, 2008 09:59 AM (rjHmV)

135 The perfect comeback against Katie-Ho would have been this: "So you're upset about a campaign staffer of McCain's getting money from Fannie Mae two years ago because it supposedly is corrupting, but you don't care about Obama himself being the second-highest recipient of Fannie Mae's campaign contributions THIS YEAR?"

CBS would still be cleaning the brains off their news cameras.


Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at September 26, 2008 10:00 AM (E3Yxq)

136 Palin is who she is; that's why we love her; that's why she's the VP candidate and not the P candidate. Would you rather have a Joe Biden on our ticket, Ms. Parker? He talks smooth, sounds so capable, spews bs like there's not tomorrow, dominates the conversation, been around forever. But he's a fool, having been wrong on almost every big foreign policy issue in the last 20 years. Yeah, that would not be better, right Ms. Parker? And he's the bottom of the Democrat ticket. That's not even considering the poseur at the top of their ticket. Wow, you really know how to support your cause...Not.

Posted by: mbabbitt at September 26, 2008 10:03 AM (p/jtE)

137 It seems to me that they're scripting her too much.  If they just let Sarah be Sarah, I think that interview would have been an elegant routing of nasty Couric, instead of a no-winner sparring match.

Watching that interview, I kept thinking....man, where's the REAL Sarah?  She wouldn't tolerate this shit.

Besides that, I'm offended by these Obamabots and RINOs trying to make this an issue.

Posted by: kal at September 26, 2008 10:21 AM (yTQIg)

138

It seems like half of NRO is whining and hoping for Mitt Romney to ride in on a white horse and rescue us all.

Posted by: Dirk at September 26, 2008 10:23 AM (8tMc6)

139

"Kathleen Parker is a nationally syndicated columnist."

And therefore, anyone over the age of 12 takes her views and opinions seriously?

Step aside Voltiare, be silent Socrates, Aristotle and Plato; Parker is a nationally syndicated columnist.

The fact of the matter is that she is not competent to measure and analyze the skills of Governor Palin.

Remember, Sara Palin:

 - has a track record of executive experience (neither Obama not Biden do)

 - a good one (Obama's community organizer experience was a failure; Biden's ability to write his own material is still a failure)

 - was elected Governor of Alaska (Obama seems to have been selected by the Chicago Machine; Biden, well we're talking about Delaware ...")

Kathleen Parker has, what, a degree in English ... Journalism?  Her writing is little more than a series ofassertions with minimal support; the sort of thing that, in highschool,  gets sent back for rewrite.

Why does anyone take her seriously?

Posted by: Arbalest at September 26, 2008 10:32 AM (1j+ex)

140

Before I forget, is Katie still a news anchor? 

I recall hearing something, not too long ago ...

Posted by: Arbalest at September 26, 2008 10:51 AM (1j+ex)

141 I would like to know how many Governors could answer the questions asked at ABC and CBS..? Anyone you can think of? I can't think of any..let her rant and go on about Palin she is staying on message...not out there lying like Biden.

Posted by: 30yrdem-not any more at September 26, 2008 11:30 AM (6Pe2x)

142 Isn't it time for another trip through Katie's colon?

Posted by: toby928 at September 26, 2008 11:39 AM (evdj2)

143

Why does anyone take her seriously?

Because she belongs to the correct clubs and meets all of the correct people.  That's why.  She is one of our 'betters' and we ought to pay attention to our betters as they define it - not character or achievement, but belonging to the correct clubs and knowing all of the correct people.

I'm getting ready to think that some lampposts need some adornment.

Say it with torches, pitcthforks, tar, and feathers - to let them know you really care.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 26, 2008 01:59 PM (TUWci)

144 She's gotta get it together.  She can't step down, but she has to at least be able to defend her own statements else she is going to get slaughtered at the debate.  Get your arguments together, expect a hostile enviornment, and quit smiling so much.  There is no excuse for not having responses for basic policy questions.  None. Zero.  And no more playing nice with these asshole journalists - unleash the 'cuda!

Posted by: WisCon at September 26, 2008 02:42 PM (RsaX9)

145 Ideology trumps everything.

Ideology first.

Posted by: David at September 26, 2008 03:11 PM (UEoYe)

146 Irrespective of the lack of substance of her answers, and their flimsy logic, her apparent inability to construct a simple sentence in which the appropriate words are comfortably juxtaposed to one another in their normal usage is indicative of an unpracticed intellect.  A lack of reasoning ability at extreme odds with her often expressed confidence in her own abilities.  A quick study?  In what?  Color me concerned bordering on terrified of seeing this woman within a time zone of the presidency.

Posted by: Jon at September 26, 2008 03:12 PM (UEoYe)

147 Wow, so this is where the hardcore idiots have been hiding? Palin sounds like the moron we all thought she was. Based on the comments here, it's no surprise that the incoherent ramblings of a book banning, climate change denying creationist and political hack from Alabama with snow would impress all of you so much. By the way, how soon do think it'll take for the Wall St. downward spiral to hit all of you out in the hinterlands? It's been a real treat watching all of you red-state WalMarters balk at the bailout - this stuff trickles downward and you'll get yours, too.

Posted by: slew at September 26, 2008 03:26 PM (fdXAd)

148 i think she is one good looking lady you libtards can go F yourselfs! the elites have ruined this country. Palin will fix it! she went to 5 dif schools and got a degree in sport casting. talk about representing people like me! she hunt and fish, just like I do! she even have big family like mine! there aint nuthin wron with WalMart!

Posted by: Big Ben at September 26, 2008 03:31 PM (fdXAd)

149 It's amazing to me that someone who would prominently quote HL Mencken could also support Sarah Palin. Mencken, above maybe everything else, hated religious zealots like Gov Palin. Makes me think that maybe you haven't read anything by him, but just found the quote online somewhere. But, yeah, like one of your idiot commenters said, ideology above everything. And her ideology is not one that belongs anywhere near the White House.

Posted by: Rob at September 26, 2008 03:43 PM (X0iQT)

150 Wow, so this is the depth Ambinder had to stoop to to find anybody who's defending Palin? The adults in this race must be doing better than I thought. Thanks for cheering me up, and enjoy your fantasy chamber!

Posted by: Daniel at September 26, 2008 04:17 PM (vJsFr)

151 Kat-mo could use a history lesson.
Of the 42 American presidents, 9 were replaced by their VPs--about 21% by my calculations. I am not sure what odds I would put on a 72 year old, ex-POW, four-time cancer survivor making it through four years, but they don't appear real reassuring.
I have spent my time in Iraq and I still think the scariest three words in the English language are
"President Sarah Palin"

Posted by: ted at September 26, 2008 04:29 PM (8s9tr)

152

From Andrew Sullivan:

"I'm 65 and I've been covering politics for a long time. That is one of the most pathetic tapes I have ever seen from someone aspiring to one of the highest offices in this country. And that's all I have to say," - Jack Cafferty on the Couric-Palin interview.

It is simply impossible for any sane and reasonable person to vote for John McCain when this fool and liar and utterly unqualified person could take over at any moment. I stand by my statement that this Palin decision disqualifies John McCain outright from being president of the United States. Until she is removed from the ticket, no sane conservative can vote for this farce.

Posted by: ted at September 26, 2008 04:43 PM (8s9tr)

153

Sadly, NRO has become a home for republicans more afraid of losing their place on the New York, D.C and Hollywood cocktail party circuits than in defending a woman who is under attack precisely because she IS qualified, willing and able to promote the principles that have made this a great nation.

Posted by: Kevin at September 26, 2008 06:13 PM (9BgEE)

154 Palin's qualifications for the office:

Executive experience in being a change agent as a Governor, fighting corruption and gov’t waste, a skill badly needed in Washington.. Executive experience with budgeting and running a government.. Experience with energy issues, at a time when we have an energy crisis that is threatening our national security. Life experience that has taught her to value the things that have made America a great nation: Free Market/Pro-growth economic policies, a strong national defense to stand up to evil regimes that threaten our interests and world stability, and a gov’t that promotes traditional values, in a non-coercive way.

Disqualification:

lacks glibness.

Posted by: Kevin at September 26, 2008 06:24 PM (9BgEE)

155 Liberals are sucha bunch of pussies its a wonder they dont run away from a aggresive quail SQUAWK SQUAWK RUN RUN LIBERALS IM  A AGGRESIVE SPURWING PLOVER WITH A ATTATUDE

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at September 26, 2008 07:53 PM (pUbG0)

156

And Kathleen has a new admirer--the leftist, liberal Liberal shit-rag, the Toronto Star.

http://tinyurl.com/4lkmzk

Ah, nothing like being an internationally-recognised columnist, eh, Kathleen?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 27, 2008 04:41 AM (zRIIl)

157 I just happened upon this site.  This must be the poor white trash, uneducated people who clean houses and pick up garbage for a living and collect section 8 and food stamps site.  You would rather stay poor and stupid than vote for a black man.  You must be the elk that appears on the Jerry Springer Show. Your little pea brain just doesn't have the capacity to think like an educated person.  Poor things.  I'm outta here.

Posted by: Bonnie at September 27, 2008 04:15 PM (flVvD)

158 being glib is not entirely necessary.  Basic ability to communicate in the English language--to get from point A to point B without looking like a drunk wandering through a forest at night--is necessary.

Posted by: ted at September 27, 2008 04:33 PM (gvguZ)

159

You would rather stay poor and stupid than vote for a black man.

Bonnie the Racist has just made an appearance; glad to know she didn't stay long, creatures like her really crap up the place.

Posted by: syn at September 28, 2008 05:01 AM (U/PTC)

160 The dude has had 4 bouts with cancer, which means there is a very high chance she will be the President in less than 4 years..  What a moron.  Looking at a picture in the jon isn't a basis for her wanting to be the VP. 

 You said, "I've been to Washington for 90 f*cking years so lick my boot" politicians"  The Shark is a bloodthirsty war monger that is the vampire that's lived "90 f*cking years so lick my boot" politicians"

I'm out.

Posted by: CabDad at September 29, 2008 04:59 AM (RfNj0)

161 To the somewhat intelligent average American, it seems evident that Palin is the heaviest rock McCain could have ever tied to his neck before jumping into the whirlpool of a presidential election. But to the Christofascist base that makes up the wide bottom of the Repubes party, none of her blunders, risible claims, uneducated rhetoric matters. They would vote for a goat if the sign around its neck read "GOP". That's why their sons continue to die in Iraq, their daughters keep getting knocked up at age 15 by pothead rednecks, and they haven't been able to afford anything meaningful in their life. You bet they're gonna vote for Palin. She's Jesusita to them. And she'll do for them exactly what they expect: NOTHING.

Posted by: Lou D. at September 29, 2008 06:27 AM (wrZOM)

162 Heh.  Liberals, three days late and an argument short.

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