September 26, 2008
— Open Blog Kathleen Parker is struck by the Eagleton Fairy.
I'm not going to cut any part out and paste it. Parker gets a load of the Big Financial problem in our face and decides that Palin is incapable of handling the crisis and she should leave the national politics of crashing markets to the idiot national politicians that got us here in the first place.
Brilliant idea.
Then she totally buys into the Obama campaign's "heartbeat away from the presidency" crap. Palin's not ready to be President?
No kidding, Sherlock, that's why she's on the ticket as a VP. She's meant to do what VPs normally do: beat the drum for the president's policies, help organize the team and, maybe, spearhead some programs. She's not here to run the world from the VP's office. If she's good, she'll learn the job and come out fighting in 2012. If not, unless she accidentally shoots McCain on a moose hunting trip, this is a non-issue. I think some folks just got a little too used to Dick Cheney being a power player in the background. That worked out well, huh? And, seriously, Joe Biden...Uncle Joe as VP. He's out there blundering around like a blind man in a midget porn shop.
"Oh...excuse me. So sorry...pardon me, is that your...aw, Gawd luv ya...stand up! Stand up! What? You are standing? What was I touching?"
I don't care about Joe's "Foreign Policy" experience. Does anybody really think Biden is going to be out front of an Obama presidency "representin'"?
Secondly, maybe Kathleen didn't get the talking points memo from DKos? John McCain is a vampire. He can't die. He is going to suck all of the joy out of every little Democrat kid praying for an Obama presidency and live for another term.
Look, Kathleen...can I call you "Kathleen"? Get your panties out of a twist. Seriously, if you want to vote for Obama because you are scared about McCain's presidency, just come out and say it. Don't get all righteous now and pretend Palin's VP slot matters more than it does.
Seriously, anybody suggesting the Eagleton option 40 days from the election, is suggesting that McCain default on the election. Don't vote for him if it bothers you that much, but stop acting like this is even an option.
Grab a bag and start breathing into it. You're hyperventilating all over the election.
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As far as the Couric interview or even Gibson, she's doing what she was asked to do by the McCain folks. She's sticking directly to the McCain policies and saying his name a lot. They don't want her to go off the reservation too much because they know that the press and the opponents are not going to forgive her like they do Biden's "coal plants" moments. They aren't.
Jesus, Mary and Sarah Palin know it, too. You don't like the format? We're playing high stakes poker here, not penny ante making a wish on the pages of NRO.
Yes, I'd love to hear if she has some other thoughts on how to the run the government, but she's the VP not the president. It is McCain's policies that matter.
You can ask Sarah for her opinion on the subject in 2012.
Update: Crackerhead (can I say "cracker?") Rod Drehr throws in "I'm embarrased for her."
Seriously? Have you looked in the mirror lately?
UPDATE: Down in comments, I thought this earlier:
Oh, there may be one more thing. We all want her to be awesome-fucking-brilliant and instead she's only pretty damn good. The disappoint pains more than the damn-goodness rewards.She'll get over it and so will the rest of us.
That's it, really. I like Sarah Palin. I really like her. But I don't have to love her. Besides the fact that I don't swing that way, the point is, she's the VP slot. Half of these people are acting like they just had their first teenage crush only to discover that the love of their life actually wears braces and has pimples.
Yes. I want Palin to be "normal" America. I don't give a monkey's ass about being able to give a f*cking Shakespearian Oratory without stuttering. I want her to be normal because I'm tired of the "I've been to Washington for 90 f*cking years so lick my boot" politicians. I dislike the new politicians who already know they are politicians and get absorbed into Washington like freaking members of the borg. Obama.
I don't want her to fit in. I don't want her to look like them or act like them.
That is the whole point. The rest of these sad f*cks just can't get over that they aren't dating Margaret Thatcher in Claudia Schiffer's body.
It's just Sarah Palin, Hockey Mom with a Veto pin that she's not a fraid to use.
Get it?
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Posted by: Scott at September 26, 2008 06:20 AM (A+pZA)
Posted by: Reiver at September 26, 2008 06:22 AM (Yi1Sk)
I finally pointed out to a friend who's been pulling that "heart beat away" gambit that it's exceedingly unlikely that John McCain will not predecease his mother - so I'll vote for the guy that's qualified for the job.
Obama - Give Me One Fucking Reason to Consider Voting For Him - that Actually Involves Him and Something He's Done - and I Might Listen.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 26, 2008 06:23 AM (NnAGL)
Also, Palin's got more (especially executive) experience than Obama, who is, actually, running for the top job.
(Further, it's not like ditching Eagleton was the Hail Mary that won the election; whatshisname lost anyway.)
Posted by: Some Guy at September 26, 2008 06:23 AM (lPxkl)
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 26, 2008 06:24 AM (ubHgw)
Parker gets a load of the Big Financial problem in our face and decides that Palin is incapable of handling the crisis and she should leave the national politics of crashing markets to the idiot national politicians that got us here in the first place.
Because cool heads, dispassionate views and unquestioned experience at fucking things up is an absolute necessity at times like this. Don't believe me, ask Chris Dodd.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 26, 2008 06:25 AM (B+qrE)
It is too late for the elites, right or left, to kill off Palin. This attack as the others will be drowned out in the fury of the campaign.
The VP debate will be the next major decision point for Palin with most of the normal voters--and even that will be overshadowed by McCain vs. Obama.
Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 26, 2008 06:25 AM (MSMPS)
By her measure, we should be giving Hank Paulsen temporary dictatorial powers to make everything OK again. Just until then and then we have an election.
Posted by: epobirs at September 26, 2008 06:26 AM (eIO0m)
Yeah, I'm really about at wit's end with these nattering nabobs. Nobody's asking Kathleen Parker to stuff her apparently much self-regarded intellectual honesty, but there is a time and a place, and now is not the time to be hollering for Sarah Palin to step down, unless you are really really sure that handing things over to Barack Obama is going to be a grand improvement.
To refrain from courting disaster at the height of a campaign isn't the same thing as making yourself a lapdog propagandist for your party, and I wish some of these East Coast conservative pundits would grasp this and let go of their narcissism for two fucking seconds once in a while.
Time and place.
I, for one, cannot wait to vote for Sarah Palin. On the other hand, my interest in reading Kathleen Parker has withdrawn for the sake of my mental health.
Posted by: Kensington at September 26, 2008 06:29 AM (kFwRi)
Posted by: Slublog at September 26, 2008 06:30 AM (R8+nJ)
Posted by: Fresh Air at September 26, 2008 06:30 AM (HHGT+)
Posted by: Mike J at September 26, 2008 06:30 AM (dqBde)
Posted by: JS at September 26, 2008 06:32 AM (zsax9)
Posted by: Jim62sch at September 26, 2008 06:32 AM (ubHgw)
Posted by: huerfano at September 26, 2008 06:32 AM (knHvu)
Let them know. I have.
And screw Kathleen Parker. This is the second week in a row she's written an article critical of Palin which amounts to nothing more than bitchy whining.
Same with Allah. He has a problem with Palin but won't come out and say it because he knows he'd be savaged by his readers. So being the beta male pussy that he is, he trashes her passive/agressively by linking all this Palin bashing in the headlines over at Hot Air.
Posted by: Manco at September 26, 2008 06:33 AM (5QPbL)
Fixed.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2008 06:34 AM (FO+YO)
Is Parker upset about Palin because of what it will mean to the Elite RINO group if Palin becomes the star that many of the base want her to become?
K
Posted by: Kestrel♠ at September 26, 2008 06:35 AM (Jnwn9)
I kinda love seeing the "smart" pundits on our side get all worked up over Palin. In a way, they are imbued with the same "Smarter Than Thou" attitude most liberals have.
And the same is starting to creep into many righty bloggers, and it is getting frustrating.
Posted by: eddiebear at September 26, 2008 06:36 AM (wnU1W)
An Open Letter to Kathleen Parker:
Dear Kathleen,
Out of her league? Let's compare her record to yours:
- She was a two-term mayor
- She was head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission
- She took on a deeply entrenched political machine in Alaska, beat a popular sitting governor of her own party in a primary election, and then won the general election. During that time she negotiated a pipeline deal that was stuck in the mud, thanks to entrenched interests up there. And using some of the surplus from Alaska's oil wealth, she managed to return a tidy sum to Alaska's taxpayers instead of pissing it away on useless government pork projects.
- She's done all of this with a degree from little old University of Idaho (not an Ivy league school), and did it while having/raising five childresn.
What have you done, Kathleen?
- You write a syndicated column.
It's clear who's out of their league here, Ms. Parker, and it sure as hell isn't Sarah Palin.
I rest my case.
Posted by: thirteen28 at September 26, 2008 06:38 AM (s8N54)
Have I turned into a liberal? I must be turning into a liberal because these fucking rightwing pundits are pissing me off more and more every day. That douchebag Dreher is unloading on Sarah this morning, too.
Dude, eat some granola and shut the fuck up.
Posted by: Kensington at September 26, 2008 06:40 AM (kFwRi)
Posted by: eddiebear at September 26, 2008 06:43 AM (wnU1W)
She's questioned by stupid washington insider nitwits like Parker because she doesn't speak in platitudes like most politicians do. So she isn't trusted.
Posted by: dan-O at September 26, 2008 06:44 AM (AEBFS)
Hello... These people are scared to death of the idea that anyone not in their circle would get this high up the political ladder.
Great post, by the way, Kat.
Posted by: A. Weasel at September 26, 2008 06:47 AM (bqcfE)
Surely a McCain presidency, given his voting record and his constant boasts of reaching across the isle, must be a least worst result for the Lefties. I mean the guy is practically one of them.
No, their real objection with a possible McCain presidency and the reason for all the nasty attacks on Palin is that the Lefties would once again be denied their rightful place at the seat of power, power that they dearly wish to attain in order to mold this nation into the sort of socialist paradise they dream about. It's for our own good of course.
If they are a little smarter they would ditch a sinking O and elected McCain. A president McCain would be an absolute sucker for every bit of bipartisan crap that they come up with. They could roll this guy for all four years.
Posted by: canuk at September 26, 2008 06:47 AM (vPj5M)
Posted by: GarandFan at September 26, 2008 06:48 AM (eJ32B)
Posted by: XBradTC at September 26, 2008 06:54 AM (wtAQj)
Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?
Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.
Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.
Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.
Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?
Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.
Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.
Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.
I don't think that her limited knowledge of John McCain's legislative record disqualifies her as Vice President. Why don't the media ask her questions about who she is and what she and done and would do? I think she is being very limited by the McCain campaign b/c they don't want her to make a mistake. I think she should come out swinging and start turning the tables on her questioners: "Why don't you stop asking me questions that come from Bob Eubanks on the Newlywed game!"
I think that she wants to speak her mind but the McCain camp does not want her to trap McCain in any boxes. I think she should bring up her lack of Federal experience as an advantage. Point out how many year of Federal experience the people in congress who have gotten us into this mess have and how little it has helped us. Her job is to be the conservative, middle class, mainstream conscience of a McCain administration. If they do things that make sense to her, they will make sense to us. She's not runing to learn how the "system" works, she's running to change the system.
Obama goes to DC and is presented with a $700 billion check and asked to endorse it, he looks to Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi for approval and then starts signing his name. That is not leadership! If the DNC wants to tie McCain to Bush and his 30% approval rating, it's time to start tying Obama to Harry and nancy and their 15% approval rating!
At least when McCain got asked to sign a $700 billion check, he asked "what the hell for?", "Is this the 'right' thing to do, isn't there another option?" and "how will I know that this won't happen again?".
Posted by: Michael K at September 26, 2008 06:54 AM (H6VxR)
Ms. Parker is obviously a little slow. The Eagleton meme is soooooo, two weeks ago. Getting sound-bitten by bloated drive-by egos is not Mrs. Palin's fault.
She's drawing fire away from Mr. McCain and she's proving a good wingman.
Posted by: steve poling at September 26, 2008 06:56 AM (UWHTf)
Posted by: TomvG at September 26, 2008 06:56 AM (TRJxR)
Posted by: I ain't Obama's granny at September 26, 2008 06:57 AM (F1b/5)
It's also undeniable that she's an extremely talented politician with what appears to be impeccable conservative (not Republican) credentials. She fits McCain's milieu of reform and brings a particular strength in the area of energy.
If Palin does nothing but spearhead the effort to ensure America has cheap and plentiful energy she will add more value than a laugh track to the typical Joe Biden stump appearance.
Talent and potential. Fuck, I remember when Troy Aikman came into the NFL. He was fucking awful. Limited experience, unfamiliar surroundings, a questionable supporting cast led to 1-15 season. He was so bad there were cocksuckers who thought the Cowboys should trade Aikman and keep Steve "Where are they now?" Walsh.
But underneath it all was talent and drive to succeed - Three Super Bowls,. Super Bowl MVP, NFL Hall of Fame.
Granted, the office of Veep is nothing like the pressure cooker of quarterbacking America's team. But promoting one of the truly talented rising stars of the Republican Party is hardly a mistake. McCain would be a greasy spot in the road by now without Sarah.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 26, 2008 06:58 AM (4ZOxD)
actually, I thought that Palin was good at the debates because she was prepared and intimately knowledgable about Alaska and it's problems having grown up there.
I'm hoping that she is watching herself speak on those and comparing it to her current speaking to see what she can tweak.
It is a matter of putting message to personal translation, not about stupidity. And, the first rule of politics, if you start losing your place, don't say nothing and don't try to come up with your own answer. A few throw away lines and some filler goes in every politician.
the difference with some is that they are so smooth selling you the empty filler some folks don't even recognize that's what they've been sold.
that is the entire Obama presidential campaign.
Posted by: kat-missouri at September 26, 2008 06:58 AM (YLs4U)
Posted by: galoob at September 26, 2008 07:00 AM (GFaLW)
I'd like to organize A Day Without HotAir Readers to put the fear of god in him. He's entitled to his opinion but he is not entitled to use the website to tank Palin.
Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:00 AM (4SGur)
Posted by: andrew sullivan at September 26, 2008 07:02 AM (8JSdG)
The campaign's whole position should have been "she does what a governor does, as did both Roosevelts, Bill Clinton, etc did, and the idea that tourist travel somehow gives one useful insight into international relations is a fantasy."
She needs to stop the self-justification. Stop spinning answers out longer than they need to be. If you can say all you want to say - what YOU want to say, not what the INTERVIEWER wants you to say - in ten seconds, say it and shut up, and let the talking head look foolish trying to fill airtime.
Posted by: mrkwong at September 26, 2008 07:02 AM (G8Eo0)
She appears uncertain in interviews. See, Slow-Joe Biden rattles off the goofiest, stupidest, least-informed bullshit of the 21st Century with a big grin and a smooth, confident manner. To the press and TV camera that's more important than knowing anything.
Second and probably more important, she sincerely tries to answer everything. Nobody knows everything. Nobody. She needs to learn to close off a question.
Oh, there may be one more thing. We all want her to be awesome-fucking-brilliant and instead she's only pretty damn good. The disappoint pains more than the damn-goodness rewards.
She'll get over it and so will the rest of us.
Posted by: Ronsonic at September 26, 2008 07:04 AM (ywSvi)
Posted by: 13times at September 26, 2008 07:05 AM (NB+gU)
Posted by: galoob at September 26, 2008 12:00 PM (GFaLW)
Rocketeer: Why are you posting under a fake name? Are you afraid to defend the crap you wrote? Pussy.
Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:07 AM (4SGur)
Posted by: Velociman at September 26, 2008 07:09 AM (vZ9Xv)
They've always been a bunch of snotty douches that think their shit doesn't stink. I hate that they're given so much traffic through links that are only occasionally spot on but usually they come off like a bunch of fucking twits with sand in their vags.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 26, 2008 07:12 AM (m2sQh)
Posted by: Miller at September 26, 2008 07:13 AM (x10cX)
But that all said, Parker isn't the only one. There were also those infamous comments made by Peggy Noonan too. And it's really all coming down to pettiness. The "old guard" is irrelevant and they're pissed off about it, and jealousy is even more powerful than money...
But regardless of whether it's money or pettiness, suck it up assholes, your man Romney lost! I let my NR sub lapse a long time ago...
Posted by: Kozaburo at September 26, 2008 07:13 AM (z6XWS)
Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:15 AM (4SGur)
You can't spell RINO without an N, an R and an O (and an I when most NRO columnists are talking).
And if the McCain-Palin ticket does win, then Kathleen can move to Canada. We have alot of Red Tory elitists here too. She'd fit right in.
And if Obama wins, then Kathleen will be in a re-eduction happiness fun camp along with Rod and the other wimps. Maybe Ace's Wolverines will rescue her, but I wouldn't count on it.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:16 AM (zRIIl)
Though I disagreed with her evaluation of Palin, I would have had no problem with her column if she would have just left out the call for her to quit.
With conservative pundits like Kathleen Parker who needs the opposition.
Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 07:17 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Kensington at September 26, 2008 07:17 AM (kFwRi)
Posted by: Hal at September 26, 2008 07:18 AM (R8UQa)
And because I'm in such a rebellious mood today:
K-Lo is fat!
K-Lo is fat!
K-Lo is fat!
Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:18 AM (4SGur)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at September 26, 2008 07:19 AM (kFwRi)
It's the second anti-Palin article she has produced in a week.So, even if you believe she has a legitimate opinion and should be heard, the number of hit jobs these bitches are writing is ridiculous.
Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:21 AM (4SGur)
Parker is the proof that not all "conservative" wimmens are smart.
Posted by: XBradTC at September 26, 2008 07:22 AM (wtAQj)
Posted by: sears poncho at September 26, 2008 07:22 AM (F0d04)
No kidding, Sherlock, that's why she's on the ticket as a VP..."
Hey jackass, you're doing in your post pretty much what you accuse K.Parker in hers.
If Palin is "not ready", that's kind of important - it's not enough to say the old man won't die, we promise he'll hold out for 4 years.
Palin is qualified just fine for the VP job... and something tells me if Palin had the POTUS job right now, ACORN would get nothing at the end of the day, and the deal would be more likely in the interest of the American people...
Posted by: Elpepe at September 26, 2008 07:23 AM (zX2OZ)
#38 - Was it the McCain campaign that first started discussing her foreign policy expertise? I don't remember exactly but I thought it was the opposition and the MSM.
Personally, my favorite thing about her is that she's 'green as hell' - also, that she has integrity.
This would make a great commercial: "John McCain is a vampire. He can't die. He is going to suck all of the joy out of every little Democrat kid praying for an Obama presidency and live for another term." Not only would it be an in-your-face response to the cancer commercial, but it would turn all the little emo Twilight series youth into Republicans.
Posted by: estee at September 26, 2008 07:24 AM (51h4I)
I agree with Parker other than the quiting part. Quiting would sink McCain's campaign, everyone would assume he forced her out no matter what.
However, I can't believe that anyone could watch any of the three interviews and think she is anything but an extreme lightweight. Maybe she's nervous and not being herself, trying to stick to McCains talking points. I don't know but from what I've seen she just flat out doesn't have a clue about much of what she's talking about. Hate to say it but there it is.
Posted by: Big E at September 26, 2008 07:25 AM (uw1/g)
Posted by: Manco at September 26, 2008 07:25 AM (5QPbL)
50 It's not the "moose hunting accident" scenario that makes Palin's fitness for the big chair an issue. McCain is pretty old and has had some cancer. Yes, his mother is still in the game in her mid-nineties. But it's not a crazy concern.
Are you a concerned conservative christian?
Posted by: kat-missouri at September 26, 2008 07:26 AM (YLs4U)
The problem with that Couric questioning is the assumption that lack of regulation was the problem. In fact, badly designed regulations were the source of the problem. But besides that, asking for a list of John McCain's positions is just another gotcha question.
Whatever deficits she may show now don't bother me. She has my vote.
Posted by: lmg at September 26, 2008 07:27 AM (A/vgC)
I believe a lot of bloggers and pundits are missing one of
Palin's most valuable assets to the McCain campaign and the Republican party as
well: she will swing the needle back to the right. Many conservatives have a
vague sense of abandonment of the core values that were well exemplified by
Reagan. This began with Bush Jr., and McCain's views are even closer to
the center. I had thought the choices were bad in the Bush / Gore election, (same
for Kerry) but until Sarah Palin came along, I felt the upcoming election
offered the worst candidates by both parties this country has ever seen. With
Obama being so far left, McCain knew all he had to do was be a smidge to the
right and the conservatives would vote for him. What else will they do, vote
for Obama? To protest? No. The only other option is a third-party candidate, or
to simply not vote. None of those options are anything to get excited about.
Then, along comes Sarah, breathing fire into McCain's image while stealing
Obama's 'rock star' thunder. But that is not all: she gets a checkmark for
nearly every item on even the most far-to-the-right conservatives list.
As for experience, its the same problem as in any endeavor: youve to do it to get it. Sarah seems to actually get things done.
Plus, she looks like Mary Ann: <a href="http://www.zazzle.com/mprenn">See my gallery at Zazzle</a>Posted by: Spike at September 26, 2008 07:27 AM (dviPZ)
Whatevers.
Posted by: joeindc44 at September 26, 2008 07:28 AM (QxSug)
Palin is a grade A dumbass who looks super hot in those boots.
The Gibson interview will live on in history as the beginning of the end of the McCain campaign.
Posted by: frito at September 26, 2008 07:28 AM (N9dF/)
Posted by: kat-missouri at September 26, 2008 07:32 AM (YLs4U)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:35 AM (zRIIl)
Ronsonic: Second and probably more important, she sincerely tries to answer everything. Nobody knows everything. Nobody. She needs to learn to close off a question.
So we're dealing with a prospective leader whose first instinct is "if it's on my desk, I must resolve this NOW". If this came up in a performance review at a typical company, the report would be marked "not ready for promotion".
Posted by: David Ross at September 26, 2008 07:35 AM (hAILF)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:35 AM (zRIIl)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:36 AM (zRIIl)
Posted by: toby928 at September 26, 2008 07:37 AM (evdj2)
Jimmy Carter is a proven fucking commodity, let's put him in charge. Not conservative enough for you? Draft James Baker.
Gravitas does not equal correct.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 26, 2008 07:38 AM (4ZOxD)
Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 07:39 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: toby928 at September 26, 2008 07:39 AM (evdj2)
I think we put Kathleen in the Concerned Christian Conservative pile and be done with her.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at September 26, 2008 07:42 AM (E3Yxq)
"are you a concerned christian conservative"
No, although I am Catholic and conservative, I am not concerned about her fitness. I'm pretty sure she'd make a fine president. I am worried about the political effect of crummy interviews on those who have "one heartbeat away" on their minds. If Palin comes off as a lightweight, it hurts McCain's chances.
There's no need to accuse me of being a troll or to smear anyone raising the issue as one. I'm voting McCain-Palin and my wife can attest that I was overjoyed to see Palin on the ballot. Indeed, I had sent my dream GOP tickets to my wife in email back in the summer:
2008 McCain-Palin...then Palin-Jindal, then Jindal - <somebody good, dunno>
Posted by: Hal at September 26, 2008 07:45 AM (R8UQa)
That's why she's in the Veep slot?!?
What. The. Fuck. Is. That?
Are you kidding me?
Posted by: Seattle Slough at September 26, 2008 07:45 AM (H5l9d)
Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2008 07:46 AM (b1ysY)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2008 07:46 AM (zRIIl)
I can't name all the regulatory legislation McCain tried to push through, can any of you? Why would Governor Palin know? Is she a McCain historian, is she writing his biograpy? Palin should have said no, I can't and why should I be able to do so. Couric and all the rest are trying to look like journalists. Mostly, they look like dicks, at least to people who actually pay attention to the news. I saw that asshat Roberts on CNN last night trying to push Senator Shelby into saying something disparaging about President Bush, but Shelby stood his ground and said that they simply had different ideas about what to do about the massive fucking bailout boondoggle, with its massive fucking earmarks for ACORN and mortgages that will never be paid off. It was these super-intelligent Ivy league jerkoffs who made this mess in the first place and when the economy crashes, it isn't going to kill them it's going to kill us.
Posted by: huerfano at September 26, 2008 07:47 AM (knHvu)
76 You admit she isn't ready to be president?
That's why she's in the Veep slot?!?
What. The. Fuck. Is. That?
Are you kidding me?
Is she on the top of the ticket?
Posted by: kat-missouri at September 26, 2008 07:49 AM (YLs4U)
Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 07:50 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 07:58 AM (4SGur)
God I'm sick of this Sarah Palin shit and when it comes from conservatives, it really pisses me off.
The constant calls for her to quit.
The constant overreaction and hyperventilating.
Is she running for President? NO. She's #2 on the ticket.
Grow up and get over it. She's not going anywhere. In fact, she's going to do nothing but get better.
Posted by: SueM at September 26, 2008 08:00 AM (YgYdr)
But Obama has the requisite experience for the number one slot? Are you kidding?
That's the funniest part isn't it. The Dems HAVE to keep focusing on Palin's experience so their top of the ticket can look, marginally competent, and even that is questionable to anyone who has caught this guy's act off teleprompter.
Yeah, quite frankly, I'd take 10 minutes of John McCain and the balance of the term, Palin's, then 30 seconds of Obama.
Posted by: sears poncho at September 26, 2008 08:01 AM (F0d04)
Posted by: rightwingprof at September 26, 2008 08:02 AM (52wuV)
Posted by: estee at September 26, 2008 08:03 AM (51h4I)
Join the club. I canceled mine during their experimental "Crunchy Con" stage.
Seriously, though, Dreher just went off the deep end with that stuff.
Posted by: Slublog at September 26, 2008 08:04 AM (R8+nJ)
Rod Dreher is a serious jerk... He has been searching for perfection forever, and is disappointed that he hasn't found it in Palin. My disgust with him began when he left the Catholic Church to become an Orthodox for accidental reasons (no problem with the Orthodox, but I really don't like this church-hopping: first, Protestant; then, conservative Evangelical; then, Catholic; then, Orthodox)... Trying to find perfection in people, not in God, will always leave one disappointed.
Posted by: oy at September 26, 2008 08:05 AM (FNo7q)
Is she on the top of the ticket?
Nope, she's the other half of a ticket with the top half being in his seventies and having had *serious* health issues. Pretending they don't exist or for that matter, having others here trying to argue he'll automatically live as long as his mother (is McCain pere still alive for that matter?) does *not* address the issue. Family medical history in general is a tendency, not a hard and fast indicator of how long you'll live.
Personally, I think she'd do just fine if it should come to pass that we need to move the VP into the Presidency slot. Argue it from that basis, rather than pretending the VP slot isn't what it is.
Posted by: Lex Luthor at September 26, 2008 08:06 AM (YYanS)
Seems to me that everybody's forgetting something--there has never been any person elected President (save a successful incumbent) that's had ANY experience in the office of President.
Given that, the question of VP Presidential experience is just a tad moot, imho.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 26, 2008 08:10 AM (ud5dN)
For all their current love for Reagan, NRO was a lot less accepting of him when he wasn't safely out of office. The Country Club set whined and moaned as he dragged the party back out of the irrelevant position they had put it in.
The NRO crowd see politics as tactics. They don't like populism which either ignores it as irrelevant or embraces positions with fervor. They are like the old theologians arguing about the number of angels dancing on pins.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:11 AM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Kozaburo at September 26, 2008 08:12 AM (z6XWS)
Every time a troll says "she's not qualified" the should be shown to the Votesmart.org webpage on his record.
Obama has done almost nothing in the highest position he has attained. Plus, he refrained from voting on all the issues lefties are most incensed about, Patreus, FISA, Itellegence Authorization.
Posted by: captkidney at September 26, 2008 08:12 AM (/RDxc)
Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:12 AM (z1N6a)
Embarrassing.
Posted by: Mr. Moneybag$ at September 26, 2008 08:12 AM (Simq2)
If you are referring to McCain's melanoma, he has been cancer free for over 8 years which means it is *not* a serious health issue. He allowed his medical records to be reviewed by the press. Obama did not. He had a note from his doctor, which is not the same thing. What's he hiding? Biden has a history of brain aneuryisms which is a serious condition.
Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 08:13 AM (4SGur)
It may even cure his stuttering gaffing problem.
Posted by: Breaker19 at September 26, 2008 08:13 AM (7jJXH)
Posted by: irongrampa at September 26, 2008 08:16 AM (ud5dN)
This is an excellent description of Dreher's hippity-hopping voyage of self-discovery. Odds are, he'll soon find some reason to get annoyed at his EO peeps, stomp off in a huff, and end up in some loony fringe cult somewhere.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2008 08:17 AM (FO+YO)
Posted by: Mr. Moneybag$+ Embarrassing.
Nah. Trolling for that hack obama is what is embarrassing.
Posted by: Booben at September 26, 2008 08:17 AM (4SGur)
People also need to keep in mind that these interviews are almost worthless for Palin. Sure she gets exposure but she was popular before the interviews so they don't add very much.
What -is- important are the VP debates. Now consider her interview performance in that light. IMO I think she's a lot brighter than people are giving her credit for and that she's keeping things very tightly under control. In this way Mr. Gaffe Machine Biden might be lulled or lead to believe that she'll be easy meat during the debates.
And if that lets her beat his monkey ass with a paddle, then that was good strategy.
Either way, we'll see.
Posted by: memomachine at September 26, 2008 08:19 AM (f4Zt4)
Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 08:19 AM (m2CN7)
Pundits now are using little inside baseball things to confirm their initial dislike of Sarah. Normal folk who have a good impression of her will feel the opposite.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:20 AM (z1N6a)
Obama can sneak a cigarette in the bathroom, but he can't hide those blue lips, which are a sure sign of health problems.
Posted by: Breaker19 at September 26, 2008 08:20 AM (7jJXH)
Posted by: rightwingprof at September 26, 2008 01:02 PM (52wuV)
I don't think so. I'm certainly no elitist and I just have not been impressed with how Palin has handled the interviews. I admire what she has been doing in Alaska, I know she's not a dumbass. However, she doesn't seem to have a grasp on key issues when she is asked. I'm not talking about the gotcha stuff either, I'm talking about fair questions about Iran about the economy etc. Too often she lapses into platitudes rather than explaining her position with clarity. She also needs to learn how to challenge the assumptions made by her questioner. When Katy Couric asked her the regulation question but then bracketed out McCain's attempts to reform Fannie and Freddie she should have come back at Katie. You know "why would I exclude John McCain's attempt to reform Fannie and Freddie? If the reforms JM had proposed had not been blocked by Dems then this entire crisis in the financial sector may never have happened. Katie, why would you want to exclude that attempt at reform? I think the American people deserve to know JM saw this crisis coming and was blocked by Dems who were in the pocket of the subprime loan industry, getting sweatheart loans and large campaign contributions." It was like she didn't want to tangle with the interviewers. That is what I want to see from her. Go after their lazy liberal assumptions and petty attempts to play gotcha. Show some steel. You've got to be sure you know what you're talking about when you do that though otherwise you wind up coming off like Joe Biden.
Posted by: Big E at September 26, 2008 08:20 AM (uw1/g)
Posted by: nord at September 26, 2008 08:20 AM (azL8r)
Watching all this, I gotta repeat something posted prior--America has had a knack for having the right person for the right time, in any given situation. The stumbles (Carter) merely point out the correct path we should take. Even a cursory look through our history will bear this out.
Given that, I see no reason to doubt the same will hold true in THIS situation.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 26, 2008 08:21 AM (ud5dN)
Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:21 AM (z1N6a)
Sobran is a sad case. He used to be a brilliant columnist back in the day, but he started hitting the paleo-con goofy juice a little too hard, lost his big-time gig at National Review and now he's out there where the buses don't run, screaming at the wind.
I hadn't heard he had degenerated as far as being an actual holocaust denier, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 26, 2008 08:22 AM (FO+YO)
Posted by: docweasel at September 26, 2008 08:22 AM (XmjZg)
Regarding health issues- Biden has had very serious health problems. Obama smokes and might have snorted a mountain of coke. And didn't both of his parents die fairly young?
Posted by: POTL at September 26, 2008 08:24 AM (mD4t/)
You need to come down out of fantasy land. You are never, never going to come out a winner by blowing up in an interview when they can cut the response any way they like.
Fair questions about Iran and the economy? What nonsense, these aren't fair questions at all. Even if elected, her policy is McCain's policy. Why aren't they asking him, or Obama, or Biden any of these questions? Because these interviews are hatchet jobs specifically designed to destroy her and through her, McCain.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 26, 2008 08:27 AM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Kempermanx at September 26, 2008 08:28 AM (qvT/A)
Any claim that Palin is ready for the job is a sad, willful blindness.
I wouldn't mind it all, if I could know that were she to become president, her coterie of managers will steer her safely through her term as a figurehead of state, while her cabinet effectively governs.
But, sorry. That sounds like a monarchy to me.
Posted by: Mr. Moneybag$ at September 26, 2008 08:28 AM (Simq2)
Posted by: Oh; mtcmtauth= at September 26, 2008 08:31 AM (7sl9X)
I'd take Palin's sentence fragments anyday over Obama's countless uuuh, uuuh, uuuhs while his brain struggles to formulate its next well-articulated deception. When Obama's teleprompter broke you heard nothing but stammering for 30 seconds or more. Hey Kathy baby, did you even notice when Palin's teleprompter broke? I thought so.
Posted by: Lost Near Pittsburgh at September 26, 2008 08:37 AM (lhphN)
Any claim that Palin is ready for the job is a sad, willful blindness.
That would be Governor Palin. The same Governor that closed a 200 million deal that had been stagnated for over a decade. The same Governor that overturned the old boys network . The same Executive who returned money to her constituents.
Ulms for the blind. Ulms for the blind.
Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 08:38 AM (m2CN7)
200 million deal = 40 billion after all is said and done
Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2008 08:42 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: locus ceruleus at September 26, 2008 08:44 AM (e2mBS)
I never thought I would be saying this, with a Masters degree from Harvard, but what we need in Washington is courage and integrity, not intelligence and a Twenty Questions champion. I like McCain-Palin precisely because they are not lawyers, they have lived in the real world, they have dealt with family crises and professional crises with integrity, and they have never forgotten where they came from.
Sarah Palin is in public service for the right reasons. She has risen to the point of becoming our next Vice President for the right reasons. She won an election as a reformer and has an 80% approval rating because she kept her promises and delivered the government people wanted. You don't have to be a Mensa member to do that; you have to have courage and integrity and you have to work hard. Those things cannot be taught. That is far more important to me than being able to out-think Katie Couric in an interview. That shit she can learn. But you can't take a selfish, dishonest head case like Barack Obama and teach him to be honest and selfless. You can't take a liar and self-important blowhard like Joe Biden and make him learn to be humble and truthful.
Posted by: rockmom at September 26, 2008 08:50 AM (iZqUY)
You need to come down out of fantasy land. You are never, never going to come out a winner by blowing up in an interview when they can cut the response any way they like.
Fair questions about Iran and the economy? What nonsense, these aren't fair questions at all. Even if elected, her policy is McCain's policy. Why aren't they asking him, or Obama, or Biden any of these questions? Because these interviews are hatchet jobs specifically designed to destroy her and through her, McCain.
Old Cat, I saw it suggested on Insty, that she show up for future interviews with her own set of cameras. Then it would be on these hacks to either consent to the interview and play it honest, or to justify objecting to it.
Posted by: sears poncho at September 26, 2008 08:53 AM (F0d04)
Yes, they would. I'd see to it myself.
Posted by: the MSM at September 26, 2008 08:53 AM (FO+YO)
Posted by: JS at September 26, 2008 08:55 AM (zsax9)
Posted by: locus ceruleus at September 26, 2008 09:03 AM (e2mBS)
Posted by: Oh; mtcmtauth= at September 26, 2008 09:03 AM (7sl9X)
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Posted by: Ann at September 26, 2008 09:06 AM (c3H+i)
Posted by: SarahW at September 26, 2008 09:06 AM (7sl9X)
I see Kat Mo's point, however. I see Palin I see shades of Reagan... so I'm all "what would Reagan do" in my anticipations.
When she doesn't do it I kick the earth.
Yeah, I see shades of Reagan in her as well. However one thing Reagan had that she doesn't is decades of public speaking about national issues. I'm pretty sure that she can eventually master this, but she just called up to teh show a little early.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 26, 2008 09:08 AM (1lhPq)
She's still my Maggie Schiffer.
Posted by: Mark in Portland at September 26, 2008 09:15 AM (+45yf)
I'm glad you posted on this. I saw Kathleen Parker's piece and I was pissed too.
First of all, that Palin was "outclassed" by Katie f'n Couric is a joke.
Katie is an even bigger lightweight twit than Charlie Gibson. Like him, she mugged and telegraphed her contempt with every question. It makes me sick that Parker fell for that shit. Example one: can you name even one time John McCain tried to solve the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac problem with "more regulation"? Well no, dumbass, McCain's not for more regulation, he's a Republican. And more regulation was not the problem in the first place. The problem was the regulations that were already on the books. Like the regulations that allowed Janet Reno to threaten to close down any bank that didn't write enough sub-prime paper, for one. That's part of what caused the mess in the first place, Katie, so why would McCain advocate more regulation, and why would Palin know about it? Couric got the smartest answer to her stupid question that she could have expected, and Parker's the stupid one for not seeing that -- not Palin.
Anyone, including and perhaps especially Henry Kissinger, could be made to look stupid with an anchor who's reacting like he's retarded and cutting the piece to make him look like a bumbling Colonel Klink. And I mean anyone. That Parker doesn't see that this was the essence of a hatchet job means she's not quite as sophisticated as she apparently believes. Fuck 'em all.
Posted by: CornFedBeauty at September 26, 2008 09:20 AM (8r/RM)
"Too often she lapses into platitudes rather than explaining her position with clarity"
The POL (Party of Lawyers) informs me that this is a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: Bel Aire at September 26, 2008 09:22 AM (ocHBO)
Word.
Posted by: toby928 at September 26, 2008 09:38 AM (evdj2)
Did you hear me? FUCK this nonsense.
Posted by: arhooley at September 26, 2008 09:50 AM (vAS98)
I saw the Parker piece, and I thought my head was going to explode. However, I'm wondering how NRO has tarnished its brand? I'm not asking rhetorically. I found this site through them; I visit NRO at least once a day. I am wondering what you are seeing that I am not. NRO appears to be a big tent. When Dreher went off on his crunchy conservatism, Jonah Goldberg wrote an article poo pooing it. You have Derbyshire, and you have Ramesh Ponnuru. They were (and perhaps still are) at each other's throats on social issue. I don't get a lot of elitism from NRO. Victor Davis Hanson writes for NRO, and he's a huge Palin defender. If you are referencing their support, and enduring affection for Romney, what's wrong with him. He doesn't set the world on fire, but I think he's a solid conservative.
I was not surprised when McCain picked Palin because K-Lo had written of her, favorably, as a possibility.
As to the Parker article, I think you'd have to be drinking the right-wing populist Kool-aid to say that Palin is perfect just as she is (I'm talking experience and knowledge, not character and methods). To not acknowledge, however, with any criticism of Palin that the bar has been lowered significantly by the coronation nomination of Barack Obama is intellectually dishonest. To not recognize that Palin looks as she does in interviews because they are as hostile as any interview I have every seen, while the One has been the recipient of kid glove treatment. Furthermore, the economy and foriegn affairs aren't even Parker's forte. She has a BA and MA in Spanish Literature (per Wikipedia for what that's worth) and she writes on culture (specifically the way men are treated in society). Like Peggy Noonan, she's just not an expert on these things.
Posted by: Niclun at September 26, 2008 09:59 AM (rjHmV)
CBS would still be cleaning the brains off their news cameras.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at September 26, 2008 10:00 AM (E3Yxq)
Posted by: mbabbitt at September 26, 2008 10:03 AM (p/jtE)
Watching that interview, I kept thinking....man, where's the REAL Sarah? She wouldn't tolerate this shit.
Besides that, I'm offended by these Obamabots and RINOs trying to make this an issue.
Posted by: kal at September 26, 2008 10:21 AM (yTQIg)
It seems like half of NRO is whining and hoping for Mitt Romney to ride in on a white horse and rescue us all.
Posted by: Dirk at September 26, 2008 10:23 AM (8tMc6)
"Kathleen Parker is a nationally syndicated columnist."
And therefore, anyone over the age of 12 takes her views and opinions seriously?
Step aside Voltiare, be silent Socrates, Aristotle and Plato; Parker is a nationally syndicated columnist.
The fact of the matter is that she is not competent to measure and analyze the skills of Governor Palin.
Remember, Sara Palin:
- has a track record of executive experience (neither Obama not Biden do)
- a good one (Obama's community organizer experience was a failure; Biden's ability to write his own material is still a failure)
- was elected Governor of Alaska (Obama seems to have been selected by the Chicago Machine; Biden, well we're talking about Delaware ...")
Kathleen Parker has, what, a degree in English ... Journalism? Her writing is little more than a series ofassertions with minimal support; the sort of thing that, in highschool, gets sent back for rewrite.
Why does anyone take her seriously?
Posted by: Arbalest at September 26, 2008 10:32 AM (1j+ex)
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Posted by: toby928 at September 26, 2008 11:39 AM (evdj2)
Why does anyone take her seriously?
Because she belongs to the correct clubs and meets all of the correct people. That's why. She is one of our 'betters' and we ought to pay attention to our betters as they define it - not character or achievement, but belonging to the correct clubs and knowing all of the correct people.
I'm getting ready to think that some lampposts need some adornment.
Say it with torches, pitcthforks, tar, and feathers - to let them know you really care.
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Posted by: Daniel at September 26, 2008 04:17 PM (vJsFr)
Of the 42 American presidents, 9 were replaced by their VPs--about 21% by my calculations. I am not sure what odds I would put on a 72 year old, ex-POW, four-time cancer survivor making it through four years, but they don't appear real reassuring.
I have spent my time in Iraq and I still think the scariest three words in the English language are
"President Sarah Palin"
Posted by: ted at September 26, 2008 04:29 PM (8s9tr)
From Andrew Sullivan:
"I'm 65 and I've been covering politics for a long time. That is one of the most pathetic tapes I have ever seen from someone aspiring to one of the highest offices in this country. And that's all I have to say," - Jack Cafferty on the Couric-Palin interview.
It is simply impossible for any sane and reasonable person to vote for John McCain when this fool and liar and utterly unqualified person could take over at any moment. I stand by my statement that this Palin decision disqualifies John McCain outright from being president of the United States. Until she is removed from the ticket, no sane conservative can vote for this farce.
Posted by: ted at September 26, 2008 04:43 PM (8s9tr)
Sadly, NRO has become a home for republicans more afraid of losing their place on the New York, D.C and Hollywood cocktail party circuits than in defending a woman who is under attack precisely because she IS qualified, willing and able to promote the principles that have made this a great nation.
Posted by: Kevin at September 26, 2008 06:13 PM (9BgEE)
Executive experience in being a change agent as a Governor, fighting corruption and gov’t waste, a skill badly needed in Washington.. Executive experience with budgeting and running a government.. Experience with energy issues, at a time when we have an energy crisis that is threatening our national security. Life experience that has taught her to value the things that have made America a great nation: Free Market/Pro-growth economic policies, a strong national defense to stand up to evil regimes that threaten our interests and world stability, and a gov’t that promotes traditional values, in a non-coercive way.
Disqualification:
lacks glibness.
Posted by: Kevin at September 26, 2008 06:24 PM (9BgEE)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at September 26, 2008 07:53 PM (pUbG0)
And Kathleen has a new admirer--the leftist, liberal Liberal shit-rag, the Toronto Star.
Ah, nothing like being an internationally-recognised columnist, eh, Kathleen?
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You would rather stay poor and stupid than vote for a black man.
Bonnie the Racist has just made an appearance; glad to know she didn't stay long, creatures like her really crap up the place.
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