1 Her top aide, a Sgt. Schultz, has been reprimanded as a result.

2 Remember, 52% of Americans were stupid enough to vote to Obama, they are stupid enough to believe this.

3
Everything this wretch says and does needs to be hung on the administration.  Hammer hussein with this, rinse, repeat.

4 So, what are the odds the aide rolls on her?

5 The wheels are coming off the Granny McBotox Express. 

6 I am enjoying watching the botox-bitch stew, day after day, in an incredibly self-perpetuated political deconstruction. Over nothing. Gettin' tough with terrorists is all. And she's goin' down cuz' her batshit insane supporters can't have that. No sirreeeee.

7 Worst Speaker of the House EVAH! Nuck Fancy, as the bumper sticker goes. Cordially...

8 I have an idea. Let's waterboard her to find out!

9 My grandfather used to tell me 'It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.'

Apparently, Pelosi did not get this advice.

10 That's it, I'm outta here.

11 Interesting that the MSM has decided to go after her, she must have pissed off the wrong people along the way.  Perhaps Obama and Co. want her out of there, they seem to be OK with hanging her out to dry.  I hear the big diesel engine on Obama's bus warming up...

12 Lay off , man , she was fighting a war in Iraq at the time .

13 If that's the case, Nancy, then you are completely incompetent and failed horribly and neglectfully to do the job you were seated in.   Resign from both the leadership and your House seat ... immediately.

14 You know who needs an SEIU photo-op badly right now.  Will Rahmbo dispatch a garrison?

15

I'm digging the whole "Obama wants her gone" theory.  Why the hell is it a big deal that she was caught in this lie?  There's got to be something else going on, and this is the public view of it.

16 Lounging on a white sand beach in the Caribbean.
Hot topless babes catering to my every (that's every) whim.

Ok - maybe not that good.  But you have to admit, this is pretty good.

17 Obama can't be happy with the bitch. Just when he's trying to weasel away from the subject of prosecutions and "truth commissions" (what? are we South Africa now?), she comes out accusing the CIA of lying. OTOH, perhaps her self-immolation will divert the leftists' anger at Obama for reversing himself by not releasing the "torture" photos away from him and toward botox-granny. Fuck the both of them.

18 ...she was fighting a war in Iraq at the time.

I laughed when she said that, until I realized she was setting herself up for a PTSD defense.

19 Nancy is not at fault, the evil CIA lied...this is an Rovian consparacy to make BB look like a fool.

20 I'm in total agreement with #9 Dan in Michigan.

21 It was like looking in a mirror.  If I was still in highschool and I came home really late and drunk and I would start off with:

Sorry I'm late.  Hey Dad, I raked the leaves today and man there were a lot of leaves but leaf-raking is important so I raked them.  Then I put the rake away after I got done with the important work of raking the leaves.  If I see anymore leaves on the ground I'll rake them, because it's my responsibility to rake them and it's important work.  Now Dad, I don't know what you heard about why I'm late and drunk but it's not true.  I was the designated driver and I was telling all the guys that we had to go, but Kevin passed out and we thought he had alcohol poisoning so I gave him mouth-to-mouth and he barfed all the beer into my mouth and I guess now I'm feeling the effects, but at that time I was not drinking.  I was trying to get these guys home so I could get a good night's sleep so that tomorrow I could get back to the important work of raking the leaves.  Well, goodnight Dad.

22 Heh. Featured on yahoo.com as of this second: "Learn to spot a liar".

23 Just like Cheney forced poor Barry to not release the photos he must have made Granny Botox not speak up against this/lose her memory of it/not be briefed on it/ add your excuse here.

24

Tee hee.

Nancy got her brain drilled.

Now sing that to the tune of "neener, neener, neener".

25 What?  I was told the Dem politicians had this thing they call "intellectual curiousity".

26 Biden offers quote  - CIA always tells me the truth -  Obama is torching her. This is signal to press to eat her alive. By 7:00pm tonight even MSNBC will be mocking her out.

27

Excellent, Da huh. 

She is a politician's daughter and EVERYTHING she does is about votes.

She is not that bright, but she knows votes!

Kemp

28

I'm digging the whole "Obama wants her gone" theory.  Why the hell is it a big deal that she was caught in this lie?  There's got to be something else going on, and this is the public view of it.

My theory: Nancy will be the long gone head scapegoat on the economy crashing - since they can no longer blame bush for how much money was spent.

29 Let's not anybody remind her when Obama became president. She might mess up her timelines by saying something like how the White House has been lying to her from March 2003 through March 2008.

30 Didn't she or she and Reid say something after the election about now being in charge in Washington and not Obama?  If that is the case I can see this all as a sort of payback.  The Senate wouldn't be as easy to get a lackey in as the Majority leader, but the House has one all lined up for the spot and ready to go.  Wouldn't this also be a pretty standard act?  You're in power and have essentially crushed your main opponents as well as you can for the forseeable future.  So now its time to go after your rivals within your own movement.  Pelosi could be seen as a rival or at least a potential hinderance to what Obama wants to accomplish.

31

So, what are the odds the aide rolls on her?

That depends on how literal one takes this question.

32 Democrats:  Let's whip up a frenzied lynch mob over AIG bonuses!

Democrats:  Oops, uh, looks like we approved those bonuses...  uh...  um...  Hey, isn't Sarah Palin just the worst?


Democrats:  Let's prosecute everyone who tortured terrorists!

Democrats:  Um, see, it turns out...  Hey, isn't Rush Limbaugh a jerk?  I mean, am I right or am I right?

33 Oops - Lieberman not biden- never mind.

34 You know, this could bite us pretty hard. After all, could there ever be a more repulsive face on Congress to the American people? Losing her could hurt us.

35 Biden will probably come out and say he was in the same foxhole with Pelosi as they fought the Mongols.

36 I can see why she felt she was too busy to co-sign the letter.  Just the other day my boss asked me to sign something, and I was wrecked for days.  You just don't know how exhausting and time consuming it is to sign your name until you try it for yourself.

37 How dumb is Nancy? She's managed to make the 'torture' debate about her and not Dick Cheney.

I really thought that was impossible but she's pulled it off. Well played, ma'am. Well played indeed.

38 I'm glad that she takes national security seriously enough to send an aid to the briefing and then not even talk about the details.

Obama votes present, Pelosi has her aids vote present.

39 #38 You're exactly right. To screw up in this media enviroment so monumentally as she has is really a quite stunning display of stupidity.

40 Memo from Obama to Nancy tonight:

There can be only one!

41 I don't think Obama has anything against her, I just think he knows a shit grenade when he sees it. Can't help the old bag out, too busy covering his own ass.

42 ... and the DVD.

43 Of course, now the spectre has been raised that the torture was get evidence to support going to war in Iraq, although nobody has ever in the last 6 years shown any proof of that.

44

Don't think this was part of Il Duce's master plan, the moonbat/dems walked into a swamp of their own making They and only they are concerned about torture. However CIA would not play along and it blew up in  BB's face. 

Il Duce had to change in mind on the pictures (after Cheney spoke) and can you imagine the thousands on people in DHS and involved in security who actually understand the risk, do you think they will stay slient, do nothing and not leak any documents. This risk is very bad for WH. Maybe some focus group told them it was a bad idea.

If congress wants to expose themselves to ridecule and remind voters how concerned they are about the "rights" on terrorists...this is a great way to do it. Club Gitmo may go away, but the problem won't. Conservatives need stand tall and mock Pelosi et al and ask voters Do you want these people responsible for your security ? These people who are more concerned about international law and what the EU thinks about us.   

45 Hey Nance - how do my briefs taste?

46 Hey Nance - how do my briefs taste?

that was teh awesome

47

What's with this Administration and tossing people under the bus?  It's like a frigging compeition now.

Someone better dig up that picture of a helmeted Obama driving a bus and photoshop in Pelosi sitting next to Obama.

48 If Nancy goes down, no congresscritter will eff with the CIA for 15 years.  This is Panetta.  An intelligence professional in the DCI job would have taken the hit and walked away with a big budget increase after a private meeting with Pelosi.

Panetta is a political animal.  He knew that responding to the Republican's request was going to create a firestorm and could have deferred the decision to the White House.

Either he did it on his own because he was tired of being pissed on; or the White House gave him the green light.

49 These fuckin congress people can't even go to a briefing THEMSELVES?!  They have 'aids' to do this?  WOW  just fucking WOW

50 Nancy: "this is a vast right whig conspiracy."

51 She reallyis one stupid bitch. All she had to say was, they told me there was nothing I could do since we were not in charge, besides they already did it so what could I have done. But no she is just one dumb bitch period.

52 Oh, to be a fly on the wall at the JournoList confab

53 The verbal gymnastics that Pelosi engages in at the press conference is amusing at first and then becomes tedious.

There are points were her voice gets thin and she seems to have to choke out her words like even she can't believe the crap she's spewing.

54 Somewhere, someplace, Hillary is enjoying this.

55

I suspect that "aides" do most of the work in Washington DC. It's a pity that we don't get to vet the aides. Instead we vote for figureheads, like the dumb "soccer mom" my state keeps sending to the Senate.

I swear it is embarrassing how absolutely stupid Democrat women in power are.

56

Hell, even Lindsay Graham was on Shep a few minutes ago saying what a bunch of hooey it is.

Shep, of course, in his usual style, kept repeating to the audience and to a prior guest what amounted to a chant of sorts, basically, "waterboarding = torture = illegal"...over and over again. I was just about to scream when Graham came on and, while not directly addressing Shep, addressed the assertions of Shep's 'prior guest'.

57 Hoist on her own retard.  Well played indeed.

58 This is a pretty good indication that The One is going after Bush era officials on "torture".  It doesn't matter how transparently she lies, as long as she doesn't admit to knowing about it, she won't be prosecuted.
I can't see any other reason for her making such an ass of herself in public.
In any case, The One owns her.

59

Guys.

Jeri Thompson on Cavuto right now.

She's no longer a blonde but looks hella better than before.

60

Hi all.  Forgive me, but I was just wondering when waterboarding was officially branded as torture?  I saw a video of the practice a couple of weeks ago (I believe it was done for the Playboy channel  (I think).  It was done by what seemed to be an experienced interrogator and it lasted about 7 seconds before the subject signaled him to stop.  The subject did indicate that it was incredibly terrifying and that the sensation of drowning (along with panic even though he knew this was only a demonstration) was overwhelming.  You can probably find other videos that are similar.

From what I can see, and listening to the subjects comments afterwards, with the exception of the severe fear that was induced (along with rabid breathing, a racing heart, the subsiding feeling of panic) the subject was essencially unharmed.  He was certainly left shaken by the experience but then if you are trying to extract information (possibly time critical) that should not be surprising.  He did recover quickly.  In any event, there were no body parts left on the table, no blood, no broken bones, no crushed fingers, no blinding, no scars etc.  When compared to what the Gestapo (and yes, they waterboarded as well although their version was a great deal harsher) or the KGB (to name just a few) this form of interrogation seems almost tame.

I'm not trying to make light of this as I think it is the central point of a number of these arguments going on currently.  If waterboarding is not strictly speaking torture then there is no kerfluffle regarding the opinions written by the lawyers, no issue about what Pelosi knew or didn't know (with the exception of the veracity of what she said she knew and when she knew it), no need for "truth commisions" on handling of prisoners (remember that these are not regular POW's) etc.

Just like to know what people think.  Ace, if I'm in the wrong place for this let me know, not trying to hijack the thread.

 

61 Pelosi is forcing us to spend so much time pointing out what a shitheel she is that we don't have any time left to come up with any good  ideas for effective governance. It's a fuckin' conspiracy to keep us in the minority I tells ya.

62 When the media gets their marching orders on who to destroy, are their questions literally written out for them verbatim, or is it more of a wink wink nudge nudge type thing?

63 More bad News for Nancy! Someone spilled some water on her.\
Whatta World!

64 Obama votes present, Pelosi has her aids vote present. (lemmiwinks)

Good one.  Wish it would fit on a bumper sticker!

65 Nancy,
Never pick a fight with the "Cougar."  Remember what happened to the Tijuana whores?

66

When the media gets their marching orders on who to destroy, are their questions literally written out for them verbatim, or is it more of a wink wink nudge nudge type thing

I'll bet the house letterwoman will viscerate her from tonight on - then comes SNL on saturday. Straight out of the playbook - team koolaid to keep the clown in for a second term. Somehow, we have to figure out how to destroy this very large circle jerk.

67

"The longer and more complex a defense, the more likely it is a fabrication."

Add to this the fact that she had to find her place in her notes / prepared remarks to repeat herself, just to make sure she gets it all right.

If it were the truth, she would be able to spew it all off the top of her head.  It is usually the lies that you need a script to get straight.

68

Oh, and props to whichever reporter at the end used the phrase "sturm und drang."

Nice.

69

Um, ah, so, um, an, um...

Christ, her and Barry are two illiterate morons.

Lovely.

70 It appears that the Journolist crowd was instructed to throw Speaker Pelosi under the bus. Must have opposed The One© too many times. She's a liability to the Democratic Party anyway.

71 You know I was just noticing the total lack of trolls lately as if their whole world is crumbling around them. Not even the obligitory bushcheneyhalliburton spittle drenched tirade we've seen. Hhmmmmm...interesting.

72 I'll be one to say that fuck no, waterboarding isn't any form of torture as it has been known in the past.  I think even McCain is wrong on this one, and I was surprised to hear him say he thought it was based on the Real torture he himself endured.

Quietly, I will say just in my own opinion, that I hope there are interogators that have the ability to do a great deal more than waterboarding in the extraction of information from our enemies, and have the presence of mind to do it in such a way that they not be caught.  I consider them heroes.

It's not like we picked up the people we're waterboarding off the street at random.  In most cases they were found actively shooting at us, or otherwise caught purposely trying to harm us.  I honestly could give a damn if we break some bones in the process.  These pieces of human excrement hardly do that for us, indeed they would gleefully take our women and children and give them a horrifying death.

To the sanctimonious political animals that say we are above that eat shit and die: You can be sanctimonious when we're fighting a real war.  This isn't a war against a nation or against a military.  This is a war against subhuman fanatical garbage that will blow up our children and their own children to prove a point about how great their god is.  They should be treated as such.

73 Even to the casual observer, this thing appeared to go viral about 2 this afternoon.

What's the over/ under on how long she can last?

74 Who in Washington would want her to stay as speaker?  At this point, only republicans.  All the dems, for various and different reasons, want her to "go away".

75 When I was about 8 yrs old my friends [he was 6 at the time] neighbor from across the street had moved and we were playing in the vacant house. My friends dad next door heard us and yells: “Chad, Satan, are you guys back there!?” I yelled back “Yes!” Chad yells back “No!” Pelosi’s lie is as ridiculous as that of a 6 year old lying.

76 this all reminded me of that snl skit from several months ago...

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4264/
saturday-night-live-nancy-pelosi



enhanced interrogation techniques are only legal between consenting partners.  pelosi just needed some new ideas.

77

So the first she heard of waterboarding was when the CIA mentioned in a briefing that they were not engaged in it?  Was this just a turets like blurt out o their part "shitbag! we are not waterboarding anyone ASS!" or did they run through an entire list of things they weren't doing... eye gouging, cigarette burning, purple nurples etc etc.?

Why would the CIA proactively announce in a briefing that there is this one EI technique that they are not doing?  Makes no sense.

78 Claiming to not have been informed by her top aide is just as bad as lying about it in my book.  This one statement tells the whole country that she has no control over the lackies in her own office and can't be bothered to have them report matters of national security to her.  Of course, she's lying anyway.  I guess she thinks this makes her look better.  Granny Rictus has been a complete failure since the day she was elected not to mentioned that her idiot peers made of Speaker on top of it.

79

61., Interesting post. The left feels that most questioning/interrogration is not permitted under Geneva (sp?) accords. Accords apply to soldiers representing a nation/state fighting a war, but don't apply to terrorists.

Moonbats/MSM/Libs feel that all treatment of terrorists by US should be with our constitutional protections in place..regardless of citizenship. So even if waterboarding was not torture, it still should not be permitted. Think of the full protection provided to any one accused of a crime.

So if the Left/Dems/MSM had their way, any prisoner would be in a jail, have a lawyer and be provided a public trail with process of appeal. Like a common criminal.

Most people understand that terrorists will take any acts necessary to kill and injure people After all they are happy to die for the cause. First role of any government is to keep it's people safe, so it is reasonable to expect the US government to do everything in it's power to protect people by preventing attacks. Information is needed to prevent attacks, you get it any way you can.

BB would rather let an attack happen, than have her moral sensibilities (and those of the left) questioned. Dems are outraged by Gitmo, but have never proposed a workable alternative that can keep us safe. Dems have never responded to the threat islamic fundamentalism poses, other than to pretend we are the cause.

    

80 Cotton mouth Pelosi--geez, she was so nervous her gums stuck together.  I love how she had to keep referring back to her notes in order to answer a question.  If she was telling the truth, she would have been able to speak from her heart.  Instead her prepared statement was like "blah blah click Bushco lied about WMD's, blah click I've always supported a truth commission as long as I'm not in the crosshairs, blah blah I was working to get a new congress elected, click blah blah Bush's fault Blah Blah I was not informed, the CIA misrepresented blah blah.  I love that she said the CIA lied--she just fired a big shot across the bow.  Everyone is going to need to do a Costco popcorn run!

81 “Espionage is not a nice thing, nor are the methods employed exemplary. Neither are demolition bombs nor poison gas…. We face an enemy who believes one of his chief weapons is that none but he will employ terror. But we will turn terror against him….”//Lt. Gen William Donovan The enemies we face, according to history, have never given up on the whole "we want to rule the world!" mantra. NEVER! Clue to Meme and all Dems, these enemies, they will also serve your heads up on a platter if you allow them to attack us or take over this country. No one is immune! Secondly, has anyone considered other countries might be mentioned in these EIT memos? During 2002-03 many countries were scared pooh-less they were next. And some fighting with us also had captured or were holding some very bad dudes. IF other world leaders or nations were also mentioned in these memos; Dear Leader and Meme had better watch out. They may be madder than the CIA! No kidding! This is going to be some very yummy popcorn moments! LOL!

82 Also, does anyone remember in "The Dark Knight" when the Joker visits the gang members and tells the three gang dudes he only has room for one person, breaks the pool stick in half, tosses it to the ground and tells them to make it quick? Maybe this is Hoyer, and Pelosi all jockeying for a position, or more favored nation type status. It seems like Obama has tossed in the broken pool stick, and told them to get it on and "make it quick!"

83

Pelosi: Wow, this food is delicious.  What's the name of this restaurant again?

*lays down a playing card*

Hoyer: Nuova Villa Tammaro.

*lays down a playing card*

Pelosi: I'll have to remember that.  It really is top notch.  Steny, hon, why are you fidgeting?

*lays down a playing card*

Hoyer: I gotta take a leak.  Excuse me for a moment, will you?

Pelosi: Be my guest.  But hurry back, or I might just sample some of your gnocchi while you're gone.

*exeunt Hoyer to restroom*

*enter 4 "Department of Agriculture inspectors"*

*"Department of Agriculture inspectors" pull 9mm pistols*

BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM

"Inspector" No. 1: Bitch. *spits*

*"Inspector" No. 2 carefully puts a bloodstained Ace of Spades in Pelosi's hand*

"Inspector" No. 3: Aww, lookit that.  Gin.

*exeunt "Department of Agriculture inspectors"*

*enter Hoyer*

Hoyer: *clears throat loudly* "Oh my God! What the fuck just happened here?"

*Hoyer adusts tie and leaves*

 

84 Ever notice that whenever politicians want to make themselves look good, or when they know they are in some really deep shit they always have a solid backdrop of American flags behind them?  I am pretty sure that in a months time you can put a fork in Pelosi, as far as her chair is concerned.
Speaking of torture, waterboarding ain't it.  I have had done worse things to myself on purpose than that, it is all a psychological deal.  They soften them up for months, then do that.
Personally I would have those rat-bastards get an total body Brazillian from an angry Bull-dyke, and if that didn't make those bastards crack, I would smear their naked bodies in peanut butter and throw their asses in a hog pen.

85

The whole press conference is a fucking convoluted  mess, but I really enjoyed the section from 4:32 to 5:50. A small part of which (see below) is over the top hilarious.      

QUESTION: You say that Mr. Sheehy did tell you, your staff did tell you.

PELOSI: He informed me that the briefing had taken place. We were not in a place where he could -- that was all that he was required to do. .... I was not briefed on what was in that briefing; I was just informed that the briefing had taken place.

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