1
Completely off-topic, but:

Read Lileks today. He's on fire.

2

Um, I'm not interested in "political pressure points." I'm interested in positive action. If the GOP can't do this -- what the hell use are they?

Now you know how pro-lifers feel.

3 The problem is it's tied to the Dept of Interior's budget. The Dems won't take it out. So it's really means stopping the whole department. That's a lot of cash that mostly go to Republican states out west and  to all 50 states. Repubs will let it go to keep the cash flowing, maybe even trade their vote for more cash as no one is going to shutdown the Dept of the Interior s a month before election day.

If they had balls though they would do this but it cuts to close to campaign time.

4 Memo to self...

Add this to reasons I laugh when receiving fundraising pleas from GOP.

5

>>That's a lot of cash that mostly go to Republican states out west and  to all 50 states.

So, common man is getting screwed to feed special interests. I am so shocked, you could knock me down with a feather.

6 He might be an anti-war kook but there is a fellow named Barr who is in favor of ending the Department of \Interior.

7 I think you are misreading the article.  The very next paragraph reads:

“We’re going to keep putting pressure on them until they do the right thing,” says Rep. Charles Boustany (R., La.). It was Boustany who rallied congressional Republicans on this issue last Wednesday, circulating a letter that might have pushed President Bush to take action this week. “We have to strategically manage our reliance on fossil fuels while we make the transition to the new technologies. To completely turn our backs on oil drilling, like the Democrats have been advocating, is just not realistic.”

The way I read it the GOP is going to try and force Dems to vote no on reauthorization in the house because they don't have enough votes to stop it. 

8 It's all a big hoax!

9 A vast majority of people want drilling now. I would think even Democrats might respond to this. Bizarre.

10 The way I read it the GOP is going to try and force Dems to vote no on reauthorization in the house because they don't have enough votes to stop it.

The point is, who cares if they can't stop it? They can sustain a veto of the whole bill and try to force Dems to take it out.

It seems the Republicans don't want to stop it, at least not enough to make a stand on the Dept. of Interior funding bill.

11 Oh I think the Repubs will definitely make an issue of stripping the drilling ban for the budget when it comes up. Mccain, if he is smart will make a big speech from the senate floor. But in the end they won't have the votes and it will pass.
Which leaves only Bush's veto and trying to hold it.
McCain won't let that happen in a year when Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico are in play. Neither will the Repubs from those states.

12 Please do find you WTF is up with this insanity. Probably the only issue we have a chance on using effectively is "the oil weapon" (so the speak). Lord, it's being handed to us on silver platter. Don't f**k it up!!!!!!!!!!!!

13 find out...

14 Don't forget too that the states that have shale oil. With  more drilling the likely hood of approvals and funds for shale oil go down. Guess what, it's all in states that depend on the Dept of Interior. More reason to let the ban stay for them.

As far as I am concerned go for it, stop the insanity on the environment now.
People are part of nature too ya know?
But McCain, Hatch and others are never going to shutdown the Dept of the Interior.

15 James Watt, now more than evah.....

16

I've been beating this drum here for a couple of days. I'll say it again - McCain should threaten to filibuster any Senate bill that extends the ban.

He should shout it from the mountaintops every chance he gets and instruct all his surrogates to lead off any interview with it.

He needs to do it now, and for the most political of reasons - so he can take credit for killing the ban no matter whether he has to actually filibuster or not. He can say the threat was good enough.

I'm attending a fundraiser for him this coming Monday and plan to ask him the question point-blank. I'll let you morons know his response. I'm sure it'll be that it's too confrontational and not bipartisan/reach across the aisle touchy-feely enough, but who knows?

17 My point is Ace has drawn a conclusion about President Bush not vetoing the bill based on nothing that was in the article.  The article was about the Dem conondrum on energy and the fact that Republicans (see the quote above) are going to pressure them on it to score some points.

If the reauthorization passes and President Bush vetoes it is highly unlikely that it can be overridden. 

18

"A vast majority of people want drilling now. I would think even Democrats might respond to this. Bizarre."

Here is how my Democratic senator, Sherrod Brown, responded to it in response to a letter from me:  "...it is clear that we can't rely on production alone to solve all our energy needs."  (I didn't say that it would).  "It is more likely that we wouldn't even see a drop of oil from many of these places for 10 to 20 years and even by the time some of these sites are at peak production, our savings at the pump would only be pennies per gallon"...blah, blah, blah....

Don't count on the Democrats in Congress to get even a tiny bit of sense about this.

 

 

 

19

Here is how my Democratic senator, Sherrod Brown, responded to it in response to a letter from me:

I wonder when our state will finally get some good representation in the Senate, and as governor for that matter.

20 So do I, buzz...at least Voinovich agreed on paper that the time to drill is now.

21 The price of light sweet crude in New York is now below $130. I'd credit the Bush announcements this week. So we might see Senator Brown's pennies at the pump in the next week or so.

22

Retread, you beat me to it. CL futures look set to close around 130 and have been on a downward trajectory since President Bush killed the executive order banning offshore drilling earlier this week.

But, I thought letting us drill our own oil wouldn't produce a drop or lower prices for years, so I can't see how these could possibly be related. You'd think the futures price was based on traders' expectations of what supply and demand might look like in the future or something like that.

23

at least Voinovich agreed on paper that the time to drill is now.

Yeah but he's a little bitch when it came to the comprehensive piece of shit.  And DeWine was in the Gang of 14.  And then there was Glenn.

 

24

Write your Congressman and Senators,

Here is a sample letter:

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Dear Senator [name] 

I have never written my Senator before but I feel this issue is too important.

I will keep it short.

Please do NOT renew the ban on off-shore drilling. 

This is such an obvious solution to our current energy predicament that I hesitate to even bring it up, but I expect you are getting pressure from radical environmental groups that still lobby for tight restrictions even in the face of the exhorbident oil prices.

Conservation = good.

New energy sources = good.  But they are mostly years off and will only supplement the current energy needs not replace it.

Opening up internal oil production will kill two birds with one stone.  It will reduce our dependance on foriegn oil and it will reduce prices. 

Once again, please do NOT renew the ban on off-shore drilling.

Thank you,
[your name]

-----------------------------------------------

...and MORONS take note, replace [your name] with your name.

....and I don't mean the words "your" and "name" but what other people call you.

...no, not what THEY call you, you can't sign an email with F$#*ing in your signature.

...crap nevermind.

25

>>...and MORONS take note, replace [your name] with your name.

Will the you thingy work?

26 Hmmmmm

I think people also need to consider that we're entering into a global cooling phase.  It's been months now but we're still waiting for the sun to begin a new sunspot cycle.  With more sunspots the sun generates more energy thus either heating the planet or at least maintaining the current temperature.

But in a lot of areas last winter was pretty nasty.  And with the lack of sunspots it looks like this winter might be just as bad or -worse-.

*plus* there are about 1 billion barrels of oil off the coast of southern California that had already been found, drilled and then capped because of Congress that we could access in just a couple months.  But cannot because of Congress.

I think people are vastly underestimating just how absolutely pissed off people are going to be this winter.

27 My favorite part of the piece:

Sure enough, upon further questioning, it was revealed that the 4.8-million-barrel number was made up by Democratic staffers without the involvement of government scientists — a “guesstimate,” as Rep. Rahm Emmanuel (D., Ill.) put it. The bill failed to attain the two-thirds majority it needed, but it would not have lowered gasoline prices anyway.
They're not even trying any more. They just make up stuff and hope that they won't be called on it.

28 If McCain had any... fire in the belly, he'd filibuster this thing.

29 Geez, are they spraying retard gas in DC? How difficult is this? You draw a line in the sand and bottle up everything until/unless the Dims surrender on your point. If they don't surrender, you get lots and lots of free media and sweet campaign commercial opportunities against the Dims. Dumbest party evah.

30

If McCain had any... fire in the belly, he'd filibuster this thing.

Let it go.  All that hate is gonna eat you up.  Fred's dead, man.  Fred's dead.

31 I'm going to write to some of my few congressional contacts to find out what the hell is going on with this.

Hahaha. 

DearCongressional Contact,

Hi my name is Ace, remember me? I'm the recent winner of the CPAC Ann Coulter Faggot Award and me and my many tens of readers want to know; WTF!?!?!?  Drill drill drill-duh!  This electoral gold!  Are you throwing all of us 9/11 conservatives under the bus like so many used up Lamb of God unicorns?  Are you stuck on stupid like the liberals who are afraid of teh gays brown people?

You're a real dumbfuck.

32 Can we have a real third party now?

33

Wow, it's a real Kangas-like troll!

Full of the bile and vomit from USENET, where Steve Kangas used to roam before blowing his brains out in Dick Scaife's bathroom. Miserably doing so, I might add, because he was drunk as hell and carrying a copy of Mein Kampf.

You're headed down that track son, slow down before it's too late.

34 Buzz, let him run, he's going to smack into the wall sooner or later. Might as well hit it hard enough to knock some sense into him...

35

You're a real dumbfuck. - frito

The irony is strong with this one.......

You stay classy, frito. 

36 McCain isn't going to filibuster anything. It's too easy to call his bluff on something as exhausting as a filibuster. He nods out over the Early Bird down at the Olive Garden.

37 I like it.

Democrats renew the ban.  On September 30th.

Bush vetoes.  In October.

Dems do or don't override. In October.

Three times in four weeks before election day, Democrats tell the voters they can't have oil.

38

Funny spongeworthy. But this ain't your grandpa's filibuster we're talking about. They don't sweat it out like Mr. Smith anymore - all McCain has to do is hold together a gang of 41 to block cloture.

If he can't pull that off - on this issue - Barry deserves to win.

39

Maybe I can fill up my gastank with little cute carebear dolls or daisies, I can pour daisies in my gastank, yeah man!

40

Will the Ralph L thingy work?

My thingy always works...at least when I'm alone.

41 On the other hand, how many incumbent anti-drill dems (or repubs) would see re-election if the "no drill" ban is renewed by congress a mere month and a few days before the general election? I hope the "Green" sword is worth falling on.

42 By all means, please let the Democrats uphold the Ban in September! Then they can try to explain & defend their actions to angry working-stiff consumers until November...and beyond. If Pelosi and Reid force the extension of the moratorium, it will go a long way to showing many ordinary average Americans that the Democrats have no true interest in their well-being. Do it Pelosi, make your beloved lumpenproletariat and embittered Middle Class pay $4.50, $5.50, $6 per gallon at the pump. They will definitely remember you for it. As for me, I am still planning to vote for Republicans this fall...and I expect to have a lot of company. But I am also looking into securing a supply of torches while I sharpen my pitchfork, billhook, and halberd. It's not time for Revolution yet, but maybe we can have a Gasoline Party. 

43 It's like a child crapping his pants, then handing it to you; then wondering why you're upset really.

Outstanding!

44 Semicolon: the redheaded step-child of punctuation.

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