November 18, 2009
— DrewM
Actually, the Chinese got the shirts or they did before the thugs that run the country banned them (supposedly because they might offend Obama, I don't see why one would jump to that conclusion).
As for actual accomplishments? Unless you call getting the back of China's hand an accomplishment, no, none of those were to be found.
"He came bearing a long shopping list, including Chinese support for tougher sanctions on Iran and more flexibility by Beijing on currency exchange rates, but Obama was met with polite, yet stony, silences....Not only is the U.S. president coming away without any definable concessions, but the Chinese appeared to be digging in their heels.....Perhaps most disappointing was China's failure to budge in its opposition to tougher sanctions on Iran. With their extensive oil interests influencing their policies toward Tehran, the Chinese are increasingly seen as an obstacle to reining in Iran's nuclear ambitions....."Obama did not meet with Chinese journalists, lawyers, human rights advocates, environmentalists or any ordinary Chinese, and an expected meeting with Hu Shuli, who recently resigned as editor of China's leading business magazine, did not materialize.Obama's limited results in part reflect the profound shift in Sino-U.S. relations and global politics, with China's rapid rise and America's weakened position, especially in the wake of the financial crisis."
That's part of a rundown of stories on Obama's failures in China by Seth Leibsohn at The Corner, go ahead, click over for the whole sad story.
Leibsohn makes the point this is all very reminiscent of the Carter years and that's true. The problem is we are only 10 months into this administration and it's already worse than the Carter years. Jimmah, for all his ability to do the wrong thing took much longer to reach this level of danger.
One difference I think is that Carter looked at a tired and weathered country (the upheavals of the 60s, Vietnam, Watergate, the oil shocks) and decided that there just wasn't anything that could be done. He was simply overwhelmed by the situation and didn't have the capacity to see another way, so he tried to put a smiley face on what he saw as an unreversable position.
While Obama certainly inherited some significant challenges, just as all Presidents have, he seems to see this set of challenges as an opportunity to remake America (his words, not mine). Instead of dealing with these problems as temporary and fixable, Obama has decided they are an opportunity, not to reinvigorate the country but to bring it to what he sees as its rightful place in the world...just another country among equals. Nothing special, except perhaps for the mistakes its made and the damage its done.
It's simply not possible to look at his attitudes and actions toward countries like Iran, Burma (I know, don't care what the thugs want to be called) and Honduras or thugs like Cavez and Putin and conclude anything other than a willful effort to be more accommodating to them.
Look at his willingness to throw the Dalai Lama, a fellow Nobel Laureate, under the bus on this trip.
The leaders of China, Russia and Iran are nothing if not pros. They have all survived tough and often deadly systems to get where they are. They are not going to be impressed or moved by Obama's 'humbleness' or 'humility'. They are going to see it for what it is, a kick me sign. And trust me, they are going to kick him and by extension us, right in the butt for the next 3+ years. Unfortunately, Obama seems to see that as a feature, not a bug of his policies.
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Posted by: Awestruck @ teh dumbness at November 18, 2009 05:55 AM (GhHQb)
Posted by: NJConservative at November 18, 2009 05:55 AM (/Ywwg)
Posted by: Awestruck @ teh dumbness at November 18, 2009 05:59 AM (GhHQb)
Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2009 05:59 AM (CDUiN)
Posted by: Mallamutt at November 18, 2009 06:00 AM (V9SYy)
Not only is the U.S. president coming away without any definable concessions, but the Chinese appeared to be digging in their heels
Our president, the prison bitch.
Posted by: Cicero at November 18, 2009 06:00 AM (+AEJn)
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 18, 2009 06:00 AM (aC0uO)
Posted by: Schwalbe at November 18, 2009 06:00 AM (UU0OF)
John Bolton has a great article about how President Obama is the first "post-American" President. And he gets away with it because too many in the lamestream media share that post-American worldview.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 18, 2009 06:02 AM (ujg0T)
Obama's foreign policy is about as wise as Natally Hollaway's choice of drinking buddies.
Too soon?
Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 18, 2009 06:02 AM (SqAkN)
Posted by: Barack Obama, sophisticated world traveler at November 18, 2009 06:03 AM (A1XjQ)
Also, despite his all-around incompetent bungling, Carter actually has an accomplishment: he brokered a peace deal between Israel and Egypt that has lasted to this day. Obama, on the other hand, has given a lot of pretty-sounding speeches.
Posted by: OregonMuse at November 18, 2009 06:04 AM (hoowK)
Posted by: Awestruck @ teh dumbness at November 18, 2009 06:04 AM (GhHQb)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton, fellow sophisticate at November 18, 2009 06:06 AM (A1XjQ)
Posted by: Eva at November 18, 2009 06:07 AM (L8jeB)
Posted by: Cicero at November 18, 2009 06:07 AM (+AEJn)
Also, despite his all-around incompetent bungling, Carter actually has an accomplishment: he brokered a peace deal between Israel and Egypt that has lasted to this day. Obama, on the other hand, has given a lot of pretty-sounding speeches.
Sorry, Carter gets way too much credit for this. Carter provided the local and generally annoyed everyone to the point of just getting something done. Way before Camp David, Anwar Sadat realized he was going broke fighting Isreal and Isreal realized that with one less boarder to defend, they could turn their attention to the asshats who really deserved some scrutiny, Syria and Iraq. Carter was just able to throw in a few dollars to the Egyptians to sweeten the deal. Sadat and Begin deserve the lion share of the credit. They were the one's who had to go home and convince the hard liners it was a good deal. In Sadat's case, it only cost him his life.
Posted by: Mallamutt at November 18, 2009 06:07 AM (V9SYy)
so he tried to put a smiley face on what he saw as an unreversable position.
Trust me on this: Carter did not try and put a smiley face on anything I can recall of his presidency. The man preached doom and gloom to us; his speeches weren't about smilynesses ...they were about malaise. About making do. About accepting our national demise. How it was our fault, yadayada.
I can recall this time, and Carter wasn't, umm, cheery.
It was Renaldaus Maximus who came along and gave us - Americans, not just Republicans - hope after the dark days and depressing views of Carter: he didn't just put a smiley face on things, though ...he created a smiling, productive America after the fricking peanut farmer did all he could do (to that point) to kill our spirits and the dynamic American can-do -ism.
You had to be of age, I guess. But the difference in mood of the country with the Reagan election was electrifying.
...gawd I miss Reagan.
But Carter? No. Worse, he laid the groundwork for what became 9/11 ...he cost us what you see now, and in his words "my advisers all counseled a military response, but it would have cost 20-30 thousand Iranian lives".
And that statement shows why you NEVER elect a weak-willed pussy as commander-in-chief. Those 3,000 innocents in the Tower that day were killed by a President of the United States ...may he rot in hell, the bastard.
Posted by: davis,br at November 18, 2009 06:08 AM (uCShA)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 18, 2009 06:08 AM (NtiET)
I think the left will soon get desperate. Could an assassintion attempt by "right wing nutjobs" be far behnd? Mark my words...
I would not be surprised. Right after the Great Political Upchuck of 1994, there was the lamestream media hype of the militia movement in the wake of the OKC bombing--they were *trying* to encourage more of it. I can see the Commiecrats and the DemSM (but I repeat myself) subtly encouraging someone to shoot Obama. A martyred Obama might be worth more to the Commiecrats than a disgraced buffoon a la Jimmuh Cartur.
I am also reminded in 1996 of the fabricated story of a wave of black church burnings--which statistically didn't happen. That was agitprop straight out of the CPUSA archives.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 18, 2009 06:10 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Barbarian at November 18, 2009 06:10 AM (EL+OC)
hey, I was told that whatsisname's experience as a communirty organizer and a few days in the Senate and his ability to run a presidential campaign qualified him to be President of the United States.
Were they bullshitting me?
Posted by: Jones at November 18, 2009 06:10 AM (KOkrW)
Freudian truth on their leadership's real feelings about the visit.
Posted by: Strick at November 18, 2009 06:11 AM (93CPh)
Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2009 06:12 AM (FcR7P)
Actually, the Chinese may be good for something when it comes to us average dorks. They are none too pleased with the health care "reforms" in Congress right now. If they refuse to bankroll that, maybe that will be the final stake in the heart of Pelosicare.
It's a weird world we live in when Chinese commies have to school an American president in basic economics. (Good thing he's the "smartest president evah". It may only take him about three years to figure it all out.)
2012 can't come soon enough.
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 18, 2009 06:13 AM (KWhJd)
Posted by: Huckleberry at November 18, 2009 06:13 AM (s2bW4)
Posted by: Barbarian at November 18, 2009 06:15 AM (EL+OC)
Maureen Dowd just e-mailed me to say: "Never send a boy to do a man's work."
Pretty much describes the Obama presidency to date.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 18, 2009 06:17 AM (Zj8fM)
Posted by: TheQuietman at November 18, 2009 06:20 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 18, 2009 06:21 AM (AYWcM)
I'd hit it. (The girl holding the shirt, dummies)
Btw, that's one wide necked T-shirt.
Posted by: whatever at November 18, 2009 06:22 AM (rGla2)
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at November 18, 2009 06:22 AM (qvtkZ)
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at November 18, 2009 06:23 AM (qvtkZ)
Posted by: Meow, Tse-Tung at November 18, 2009 06:23 AM (s2bW4)
TOTUS has no juice
DEEEnied!
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at November 18, 2009 06:24 AM (qvtkZ)
Posted by: DrewM. at November 18, 2009 06:24 AM (FCWQb)
Posted by: Schwalbe at November 18, 2009 11:00 AM (UU0OF)
She already has a closet full
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Wicked High Temps in the Core of the Earth at November 18, 2009 06:24 AM (erIg9)
Funny, that's pretty much what happened on "V" last night. There are a lot of parallels in that show. Good thing they're going on hiatus after next week's episode to "fix" it...
Posted by: whatever at November 18, 2009 06:24 AM (rGla2)
How come no MAO-BOW in China??
Obama is being laughed at by the world powers. He is loved by the worlds LIBTARD YAP-DOG appeasers.
Posted by: gus at November 18, 2009 06:24 AM (Vqruj)
Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2009 06:25 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: TheQuietman at November 18, 2009 06:26 AM (1Jaio)
Alright, someone's gotta say it, may as well be me. Am I the only one who noticed the girl holding the shirt? Yowza.
I'd hit it. (The girl holding the shirt, dummies)
Indeed. She does look like a doll face wise, but I would like to see more of the figure.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 18, 2009 06:26 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 18, 2009 06:26 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: Barack Obama, sophisticated world traveler at November 18, 2009 11:03 AM (A1XjQ)
Chung King is as authentic as it gets, bud!
Posted by: rightzilla at November 18, 2009 06:30 AM (rVJH4)
Posted by: Mystry at November 18, 2009 06:32 AM (kmgIE)
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at November 18, 2009 06:32 AM (2QFX4)
Posted by: Kristopher at November 18, 2009 06:32 AM (Jjzb5)
What a joke. Upon hearing about these I'm sure Bambi sent some lackey on a mission to purchase a few.
Posted by: rockhead at November 18, 2009 06:33 AM (RykTt)
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 18, 2009 06:33 AM (Haq+B)
I'll bet Barack learned plenty about the Chinese and Confucius on this trip. I'll bet he's telling Rahm right now...
Confucius say...
Man who go to bed with itchy butt wake up with stinky finger.
Man who stand on head have crack up.
Man who go through turnstiles sideways going to Bangkok.
Posted by: Booter at November 18, 2009 06:33 AM (eimUK)
Posted by: Todd at November 18, 2009 06:34 AM (LLOGQ)
Posted by: rockhead at November 18, 2009 06:34 AM (RykTt)
Posted by: Meow, Tse-Tung at November 18, 2009 06:34 AM (s2bW4)
What does the caption under Obamao say, anyone know?
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 18, 2009 11:33 AM (Haq+B)
"Imperialist Running Dog Dead Beat"
Posted by: Nighthawk at November 18, 2009 06:36 AM (OtQXp)
Also note: I'd buy two.
Posted by: FreakyBoy at November 18, 2009 06:36 AM (4s1it)
Posted by: Mystry at November 18, 2009 06:36 AM (kmgIE)
Whereas, here in America, we've still got some work to do as far as getting our women to walk around naked. We're not perfect. We know that.
Posted by: alppuccino at November 18, 2009 06:36 AM (vBr+B)
Posted by: Old Sailor at November 18, 2009 06:37 AM (/Ft4q)
Somebody didn't read the memo on what this trip was about -- deference (i.e. Obama letting China know he's their beeyotch) .
Posted by: rockhead at November 18, 2009 06:38 AM (RykTt)
That t-shirt can be worn by both sides over here, for differing reasons.
Very true! Imagine the idealogolical collision when a Red Stater wearing an ObaMao t-shirt waving an American flag confronts a hippie marching in an ANSWER rally wearing an ObaMao t-shirt.
Cats and dogs living together... mass hysteria!
Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 18, 2009 06:38 AM (AYWcM)
Posted by: Madame Europa at November 18, 2009 06:39 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Angry Beaver at November 18, 2009 06:40 AM (3HQUb)
I'm pretty sure she's naked behind that shirt.
Whereas, here in America, we've still got some work to do as far as getting our women to walk around naked. We're not perfect. We know that.
Fun and joke aside, Asian women tend to be a very demure and modest lot.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 18, 2009 06:41 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: rightzilla at November 18, 2009 06:41 AM (rVJH4)
o/t
(IsraelNN.com) U.S. President Barack Obama continues to reach out to Muslims by appointing them to key security posts amid charges he wrongly ignored internal Muslim terror. One recent appointee was harshly criticized for appearing on a British-based television station whose host is a member of a radical Muslim group.
President Obama has continued to reach out Muslims, as he said in his keynote speech in Cairo last June, and this past week he swore in a Muslim rights advocate to the Homeland Security Advisory Council, shortly after the Fort Hood massacre. HSAC members are involved in expertise on national security
@Luccianne,com
Posted by: willow at November 18, 2009 06:42 AM (GkYyh)
o/t
(IsraelNN.com) U.S. President Barack Obama continues to reach out to Muslims by appointing them to key security posts amid charges he wrongly ignored internal Muslim terror. One recent appointee was harshly criticized for appearing on a British-based television station whose host is a member of a radical Muslim group.
President Obama has continued to reach out Muslims, as he said in his keynote speech in Cairo last June, and this past week he swore in a Muslim rights advocate to the Homeland Security Advisory Council, shortly after the Fort Hood massacre. HSAC members are involved in expertise on national security
@Luccianne,com
JUST SHOOT ME NOW!
Posted by: rightzilla at November 18, 2009 06:44 AM (rVJH4)
You might want to think that through some.
Posted by: Helen Thomas in a Bustier at November 18, 2009 06:45 AM (NtiET)
Posted by: Max Entropy at November 18, 2009 06:47 AM (uuZjB)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 18, 2009 06:48 AM (KWhJd)
bigpinkfluffybunny, ObaMao's shirt for friday
maybe a nice CheBama shirt for saturday.
it will be all the rage.
Posted by: willow at November 18, 2009 06:50 AM (GkYyh)
Posted by: Anita Dunn at November 18, 2009 06:51 AM (rVJH4)
Speaking of Obama (and Mao) crap, here's a report on tourist-aimed crap in D.C. [Via Linkiest, the former Conservative Grapevine.]
Posted by: andycanuck at November 18, 2009 06:52 AM (2qU2d)
You might want to think that through some.
Posted by: Helen Thomas in a Bustier at November 18, 2009 11:45 AM (NtiET)
seriously, dude
Posted by: janet Napolitano in a string bikini at November 18, 2009 06:52 AM (KOkrW)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 18, 2009 06:53 AM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Mrs. obama at November 18, 2009 06:53 AM (rVJH4)
Posted by: chairman meow at November 18, 2009 06:54 AM (2qU2d)
Posted by: rightzilla at November 18, 2009 06:54 AM (rVJH4)
that the real reason the Chinese Government pulled them was that it is incorrect use of information. Omana was not part of the Red Army.
hey it's not like he wouldn't have if he could have,maybe they should make him an honorary member.
Posted by: bulwark at November 18, 2009 06:56 AM (jvrmc)
Posted by: rightzilla at November 18, 2009 06:57 AM (rVJH4)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton, fellow sophisticate at November 18, 2009 11:06 AM (A1XjQ)
There's actually hundreds of Chinese languages (I could even be lowballing that), but the written form translates to them all.
Posted by: Bill R. at November 18, 2009 06:57 AM (EhlQq)
Posted by: alppuccino at November 18, 2009 06:58 AM (vBr+B)
Posted by: Blogluddite at November 18, 2009 07:02 AM (fDWFP)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at November 18, 2009 07:02 AM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Todd at November 18, 2009 07:12 AM (LLOGQ)
Janet Reno walking down the street in a g string, unshaven of course....
But then she'd give you razor burn, Todd, if she went down on you.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 18, 2009 07:17 AM (2qU2d)
From the article (last paragraph):
>> Chang refused to surrender the offending shirt and joked that a number of jealous White House and CNN colleagues had tried to "bribe" her for it
Wow that is disgusting that white house staffers think that comparisons of Obama to Mao are flattering somehow. Mao was the greatest mass murderer of all time, murdering over 75 million Chinese. Beyond disturbing.
Posted by: dan-O at November 18, 2009 07:32 AM (+9Rf8)
Posted by: Paladin at November 18, 2009 07:34 AM (a+kMW)
Posted by: wth at November 18, 2009 07:36 AM (wAQA5)
Me: Sounds oriental. Is he Siamese?
Old girlfriend: No. He only has one head.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2009 07:39 AM (xxgag)
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Posted by: They all look alike anyway at November 18, 2009 07:42 AM (EzcbY)
good times...and gas lines, but mostly gas lines. Remember odd & even days?
Posted by: Paladin at November 18, 2009 07:46 AM (H7yeS)
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Posted by: rightzilla at November 18, 2009 07:59 AM (rVJH4)
What I see is a racist who harbors long-standing grudges against those who are melanin impaired.
And Rightzilla, I agree, except in the fact that this entire election reeked of third world, personality driven elections. A dumbed-down electorate bodes ill for the country.
Posted by: iowavette at November 18, 2009 08:07 AM (0JTac)
And Rightzilla, I agree, except in the fact that this entire election reeked of third world, personality driven elections. A dumbed-down electorate bodes ill for the country.
Then it is our job to smarten up the electorate, not succomb to the ultimate conclusion and go "coup" on things. That is absolutly giving victory to the libs socialist desire and we have to fight it with true democracy backed by a robust capitalist model. Putting a bullet in a president is the death nell of our way of life. It confirms that what HE wants is what we will get. The tea parties, the Palin momentum, all of what we are doing to make 2012 reverse this current direction would be for not and we could settle into our Hugo Chavez like existance.
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Posted by: stuiec at November 18, 2009 09:09 AM (7AOgy)
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Walter Cronkite deserves more credit for that peace deal than Peanuts.
Sadat and Begin were the ones desperate for peace, albeit on the correct terms for their national interests; anyone could've been the neutral third party (which today, by the way, is Sarkozy's France - he's hosting a Peace Summit with Israel, Fatah, and Syria later this year).
Fuck Carter.
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