1 Just words?

2 I sense an undertone of hate in your post.

3 The only reason he was so tough on Afghanistan during the campaign was to portray it as a negative contrast to our primary efforts and focus on Iraq.  If our battle was only in Afghanistan during the campaign he would have framed that war as a strategic mistake too.

4 He's trying to figure out how to bail out with out it being called a loss.

5 polynikes hits the nail on the head.

6 It is almost like Obama didn't have a plan when he was running last year, even though he talked like he did.  Crazy, I know!

7 Jug-eared, lying fuckbucket.

8 Here's the problem with all those libs whining and crying about how we "took our eyes off the ball" by going into Iraq, that we should have only been focusing on Afghanistan:

If we'd never gone into Iraq, the same people would've been saying the very same things about Afghanistan.  "Mistake", "imperalism", "we need to come home now", etc.

The next war these tools find that they can support will be the first one.

9 Obama waffling?...get used to it for the next 4 years.

10 What a fucking moron this guy is turning out to be.  There is absolutely no worse trait in a leader than the lack of ability to make a decision.  He said what he said on the campaign trail to get elected, but now faced with hard data and the time to make decisions he doesn't know what to do - hence the multiple flip-flops.  And he can't vote present on these weighty issues.  I don't envy anyone who has to deal with these decisions, but hey, he's the one who asked for it. 

11 These assholes never supported the war there. The only war they have ever supported is the one against the U.S.

12 Barry's Paradox. His career has consisted of "The President is wrong!" Now that he "are" the Present, and he still holds that philosophy, his head is spinning a little.

13 I know people don't listen to me when I say this but  this is right in line with his pulling the Census into the White House and the issue with Hillary telling one guy he's got the job in Iraq and Obama doing take-backs and appointing someone else.   It's not that he lied, or intended to jerk people around.

He's micro-managing.

It's going to be worse than Carter.

He's got NO NO NO executive experience which means NO NO NO experience delegating.

He's not going to tell Petraeus that he wants to surge in Afghanistan, so do it, "make it so", and put the troops where they'll do the most good and "tell me what I can do to help that".   NOOoooo... .he's going to try to micro-manage it.   And in the mean time he's going to neglect the heavy lifting of keeping our access overland in Pakistan or get our air access back in K-stan.

Carter wasn't a disaster because of bad intentions.   He was a disaster because his intentions were *good*, and he had to make sure, personally, that the right things were done.

Obama is going to be the same for the same reasons.  

14 Send Michelle, after about a month the Taliban and Al Q will surrender, and demand the UN provide asylum from the US' crimes against humanity through the deployment of a torturous biological 'weapon of mass destruction'

15 Outside the Obama/Reid/Pelosi Generational Theft Act of 2009, he is quickly achieving something like total paralysis, a la Jimmy Carter, the original Hopeychangey candidate.

Why is this not surprising?  Obama has never proven any ability to make hard decisions, and, notwithstanding the liberal philosophy of Skittle-shitting Unicorns, the presidency is all about hard decisions.

16

Remember this little diddy:

Right now, we don't have enough troops, and NATO hasn't provided enough troops because they are still angry about us going into Iraq. So we just don't have enough capacity right now to deal with — and it's not just troops, by the way. It's like Arab — Arab — Arabic interpreters, Arab language speakers, we only have a certain number of them, and if they're all in Iraq, then it's harder for us to use them

17 Obama is going to screw around and get our people killed in Afghanistan, When that happens, we should _____________ (this is fill in the blank). (I don't want the FBI knocking on my door asking me what I have in mind.)

18 Stomp our feet loudly and make "tisk-tisk" noises.

19 I mean... he pulled the Census in because the Census is important.   ANYTHING important, he's going to want to micro-manage.   He's going to want to make sure it's done right.   Same thing... the "important" ambassadorial assignments are going to be his, and he might change his mind.   I thought he brought others who are generally under State to cabinet level, to report to him direct, yes?   And he's going to try to micro-manage Afghanistan... and it's not that he didn't really think it was important before when he said it... it's BECAUSE he thinks it's important that he's going to give it his personal attention and waffle over it and try to get it right.

Watch over the next months.   This will fit everything he does.   Watch.   Because I'm right.

20
Can any of the military-connected types among you fellow morons tell me how re-enlistments have been going since the election? From what I'm hearing anecdotally, the armed forces, and the Army in particular, is having trouble retaining noncoms; but that may be based on biased information. Anyone have solid data?

21 He's micro-managing.

He's gotta start a-learnin' how to manage somewhere.  For most of us it's when we were in our twenties and the position was likely as an assistant-manager or junior department head or somesuch with about five people to manage, a position that if screwed up didn't have much impact. 

If he fully understands where he is, and I'm sure he does, he must be scared shitless about pretty much everything. And a leader like this will make a ton of bad decisions due to the pressure he faces every day.

22 Synova, let's hope he's being overwhelmed by micro-management. If he ever starts delegating it will be like a band of monkeys running thru the streets (the same monkeys who were pounding the typewriters and came up with the ACORN Stimulus Act).

23 Not only is he micromanaging, he lacks discipline.  He's the Oakland of politicians--no there, there.  I keep comparing former Democratic Presidents to him favorably (only two in my lifetime).  Never thought I'd miss Clinton, but he was President during far less dangerous times. We can still get mujahadeen'd out of Afghanistan. 

24 17 Obama is going to screw around and get our people killed in Afghanistan, When that happens, we should _____________ (this is fill in the blank). (I don't want the FBI knocking on my door asking me what I have in mind.)

Posted by: Harry at February 16, 2009 03:50 PM (RxSlU)

I have a very long list to choose from to fill in the blank, but I too don't wan't the 'you know who's' asking me what I have in mind.  Unless it's a one-on-one interview with all options on the table.

25

We're now experiencing the "Say anything" style of leadership.  I'm sure everything will work out alright.

26 Remember this little diddy:

Racist!

27 itsbushsfault

28

I respectfully disagree with the people who say he is trying to micro manage.  Obama is lazy.  Look at the history of him writing the first book and the deadlines.  Look at his punctuality regard to anything. Look at his voting present.  Look at his indecisions. Look at his lack of any scholarship written papers. Lazy people do not micro manage.  Maybe whoever is controlling him wants to micromanage but its not Obama. 

 

29

#1~perfect.  Stupid shit I say, then change my mind about?   Just words.

 

This fucking guy is somethingelse.

30 Why is this not surprising?  Obama has never proven any ability to make hard decisions, and, notwithstanding the liberal philosophy of Skittle-shitting Unicorns, the presidency is all about hard decisions.

Bingo. Can't vote "present" anymore when you're President, Barry

31 I'm gonna win Afghanistan, I'm gonna cut taxes, I'm gonna get rid of lobbyist, I'm gonna bring transparency, I'm going to listen to others ideas........ I'm a fucking liar. 

32 Lazy people delegate.

And he's not doing that.  At. All.

33 And you can tell the pressure is already getting to him - had to take a weekend off in Chicago, had to escape the White House a few days ago to go read a book to young children.  He's been in office how long?  A couple/few weeks and he already needs to "get away"? 

Think about his typical workday, say over the last 10 years - he probably never actually worked more than about 20 hours in a typical week, as he never had what any normal person would consider as a real job.  Now, up at 5 or 6 am, first thing every morning a national security briefing on how various parts of the world want us all dead, more meetings throughout the day, no down time at all, and probably concluding it all around 8 or 9 at night.  Pretty grueling for anyone, but especially for someone who has never done it before.   He is going to age before our eyes.

34 Obama Waffles, like Chinese food, fill you at first with Hope, but then leave you hungry and empty a few hours later.

35

Skippy the Wonder Poodle as president - barks loudly, shits on lawn and accomplishes dick. For fun chases own tail and licks nuts - when tired of that licks his ass for dessert.

3 years, 11 months and 5 days to go - good luck America.

36 The Politico story states that he wants to change the emphasis of Afghanistan from "killing insurgents" [war] to "protecting civilians" [peace-keeping mission]. Any guesses as to how long he waits to call in the blue hats, then?

37 Yes, I think he's micromanaging, all the while trying to prop up the idiotic idea that dialogue and consensus will, you know, solve shit.

38

So isn't it still like 4 more fucking days until this druggie marxist has even logged his first month in office. 

What a sad joke.

39 Barry is typically 45 minutes late to meetings and events. I don't know if that makes him lazy, or simply simply so self important that everyone's schedule revolves around him.

40 Barry is typically 45 minutes late to meetings and events. I don't know if that makes him lazy, or simply simply so self important that everyone's schedule revolves around him.

Sounds exactly like the complaint against Clinton back in the day.  At least Clinton was doing something important, like getting nobbed in the Oval Office.

41 Being late to meetings might also be because he can't leave off the previous task.

Carter supposedly suffered from extreme overwork.   

42 27 itsbushsfault

And let's not forget this classic nugget either:  ChimpyMcHitlerHalliburtonNoBloodForOil!

43 20
Can any of the military-connected types among you fellow morons tell me how re-enlistments have been going since the election? From what I'm hearing anecdotally, the armed forces, and the Army in particular, is having trouble retaining noncoms; but that may be based on biased information. Anyone have solid data?

Posted by: Brown Line at February 16, 2009 03:57 PM (VrNoa)

I don't know what the current figures are, but in the near future I don't believe they'll be as bad as I would have expected them to be.  I think the horrible enconomy and the resulting lack of jobs will keep the re-enlistment rate high. 

44 Obama is lazy.

Are you suggesting that he is shiftless?

Racist!

45 34 Obama Waffles, like Chinese food, fill you at first with Hope, but then leave you hungry and empty a few hours later.

I think you have insulted Chinese food.

I'd say Obama is more like a pretty frosted donut with multi-colored sprinkles, that is filled with rancid, maggot infested cheese.

Now I've insulted pretty frosted donuts.

46 Seriously... he shouldn't be *doing* anything.    He should set priorities and goals and tell people to get to work... and make it to the next meeting on time.

47 Fuck Him, he is going to get more people killed with his indecision. A lot more good men will die because he lacks a spine. Nothing is worse than a "leader" who can't make a decision.

48 You may not think Obama doesn't know what he is doing, you be wrong. It's all part of a shuck and jive act, honed to a cutting a edge as the top community organizer for ACORN.

So don't worry, either the shuck or the jive will do something.

49 No, it's not micromanaging. Obama doesn't have a history of micromanaging. He doesn't have a history of any kind of managing. He doesn't know how to manage. He's putting off making decisions because he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. He's in waaaay over his head, and if he doesn't know that by now, he will be learning shortly.

It is my opinion that most people voted for Obama because he has a nice sounding voice, and sounds good when guided by a TelePrompter.

He is like Carter, though, in that Carter was an indecisive fuckbucket, too, and it cost the country dearly. Those who voted for him because he sounds so nice will rue the day, as will we all.

50 Just say the word Obama, that's pretty insulting. A lot more good men Many good men

51 Barry is typically 45 minutes late to meetings and events. I don't know if that makes him lazy, or simply simply so self important that everyone's schedule revolves around him.

It means that his Chief of Staff, world-renowned tough guy, isn't doing his job.

52 I think Mark Steyn has the best term:

"The Obamateur hour"

53 this is why i call mccain the seppuku candidate.  obama is such a joke.  i can see him being victorious is the dumbocrat primary, but the american public at large?  He was always acting like he was trying to sabotage his own campaign; render it unwinnable.  I dont think mccain even expected palin to come off that well as a pick.  I think he expected her to come off like a dolt; even had "insider" leaks about her "ignorance".  I keep thinking of every offhand remark he has made and even most democrats saying it was stupid.  I think he is smart, but his instincts point in the opposite direction of the right way.  the only thing satisfactory thus far has been when he discussed stuff with W in the white house and would come out looking like he just visited michael jackson's dermatologist.

54 Katie Couric:  "He'll make a decision as soon as the Rasmussen polls can be analyzed!  All hail our Beloved Leader!!"

55

Keep in mind that we have 4 times the number of troops in Iraq, where nobody had anything to do with 9/11 before we went in, where, in fact, there was no al Qaeda before we went in. That is a strategic mistake, because every intelligence agency will acknowledge that al Qaeda is the greatest threat against the US, and that the place where we have to deal with these folks is in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Actually Mr. (sorry, President) Obuttfuck that was strategically brilliant on our part. 

We were already officially at war with Iraq.  they signed a cease fire agreement back in '91 and they violated it.  We didn't need anyone's permission.  The only reason we didn't kick their asses earlier is because Clinton has no backbone.

Afghanistan is a land locked country.  Supply lines are critical to winning a war.  We can supply our troops in Iraq and we can get the bad guys to leave their caves to come fight on our terms.

The bad guys did in fact come puring into Iraq from Syria, Jordan, Iran and Saudi Arabia where they got their asses stomped. 

It is not the war on Afghanistan.  It is the war on Terror (i.e. terrorists).  They are everywhere in that part of the world.

The icing on the cake is that we got to take out one of the top 3 assholes in the world (Saddam).  All the while Bin Laden (the hero to all terrosists) has been hiding in a cave for eight long years; where is the prestige in that.

56 Another piece of evidence that he does not micromanage is the total lack of control he had on all of his advisors that he had to eventually throw under the bus.  I'm thinking a little bit of micromanaging would go along way right now with his VP and WH press secretary.

57 33 And you can tell the pressure is already getting to him - had to take a weekend off in Chicago, had to escape the White House a few days ago to go read a book to young children.  He's been in office how long?  A couple/few weeks and he already needs to "get away"? 

Posted by: Ken at February 16, 2009 04:07 PM (2LCD6)   This comment might be from somewhere out in left field, but I believe one of the reasons he will be spending as little time as possible at the White House is it really cramps his style when it comes to having a smoke.  When he's in ChicagHO, he probably just lights up right inside the house and looks that Amazonian monster straight in the eyes and says, "Now were in Mah House, Mah Rules!  Wassup and shit!"

58

6 It is almost like Obama didn't have a plan when he was running last year, even though he talked like he did.  Crazy, I know!

When Clinton was interviewed late in his presidency he said that all he thought about and planned for was winning.  And when that actually happened, they all looked at each other as he said, "what do we do now?" 

This man is Bill Clinton with purple lips.

59 No, he's micromanaging. And that's a classic mistake of first time managers. And micromanagers are famous for being indecisive, or at least spending their time deciding details rather than overarching concepts. They get lost in the forest for all the damn trees.

60 LBJ tried to micro-manage Vietnam and we all know had that worked out.

He needs to tell the Military commanders to do what we do best, kill the enemy and break things, then he needs to get the fuck out of the way.

61 I believe one of the reasons he will be spending as little time as possible at the White House is it really cramps his style when it comes to having a smoke.

He's the president.  If I were him, I'd say "I'm the Leader of the Free Fucking World.  If I want to smoke in the Oval Office, I'm gonna light up when I want to, whenever I want to. Now STFU."

62 Told ya so.

63

From what I'm hearing anecdotally, the armed forces, and the Army in particular, is having trouble retaining noncoms; but that may be based on biased information. Anyone have solid data?

If it does drop don't expect to find it in the news.  That would just be bad press for Barry.  It will be the opposite of when Bush was in office.  When the military wasn't meeting it recruiting goals it was top news every month.  Those reports being major news disappeared around 2005 or earlier.

64

And micromanagers are famous for being indecisive, or at least spending their time deciding details rather than overarching concepts.

That's just it.  Obama doesn't know the details of a lot of what he is advocating. A micromanager would know those things.  Obama deals in generalities.

65 FAR BE IT FROM ME TO ACT INDECISIVELY...

...which is why I vote "present."  Whew, that was a close one.

66 I hate waffles.

67

He sure didn't micromanage the stimulus bill.  He let the Dem congress write the thing. 

 People said this would happen if Obama was elected.  That he'd be such a neophyte that his underlings would battle to fill the power vacuum made from a weak presidency and chaos would rule.

Those people were oracles.

68

polynikes, Arab interpreters are so useful in translating Pashto, don't you agree?

I'd rather O not send more troops in without a good plan. 

Now, the 100 dollar question is: who is drafting the plan? Central Command or Jones in the White House? 

69 Any bets on how soon the fraudulent one will be conferring with Chavez to see how he can get a president-for-life thing going on here? 

70 Barely been a month, but Obama seems to have developed a healthy desire to spend as much time out of the WH as he possibly can.

71 People said this would happen if Obama was elected.  That he'd be such a neophyte that his underlings would battle to fill the power vacuum made from a weak presidency and chaos would rule.  Those people were oracles.

Any president can have a rough patch at the beginning- to be fair, I'll give him that.  But have you seen anything that would lead you to believe he's going to pull out of this tailspin?  I don't.  It's going to be a long four years.

72

I think I'll put my "X" in the "not a micro-manager" box. 

Honestly I think the guy's gonna spend four years just saying basically anything about anything.  I wouldn't really call it "waffling."  It's more like "nothing at all."

 

73 70 Barely been a month, but Obama seems to have developed a healthy desire to spend as much time out of the WH as he possibly can.

On his "spiffy" new ride.  Freakin' douchenozzle.

74 A micromanager *can't* know the details before he's even elected... so now we get all this having to put stuff off to "study" it.   So he spends his time  finding out all the details so he can make decisions.

75

Honestly I think the guy's gonna spend four years just saying basically anything about anything.  I wouldn't really call it "waffling."  It's more like "nothing at all."

That's what bullshit artists do best.

76 Obama doesn't know the details of a lot of what he is advocating. A micromanager would know those things.  Obama deals in generalities.

No, because they don't understand the underlying concepts, they spend time on them that a competent manager wouldn't.

77 62 Told ya so.

Posted by: baldilocks at February 16, 2009 04:29 PM (SDAu2)

 

Spot on.  However, "Told ya so" is just so 2008ish.  In 2009, as a result of that Messianic pile of humility that the non-morons elected, we can now all feel free to say, "I won!"

78 #67    I don't think he felt the stimulous bill was important... just that it passed.  But what was IN it?   Not important.  

Gitmo?  Important... so we have to stop all trials and have a "study" so that Obama can decide what must be done.

79 I lulz Collectible 'obama coins' are a scam) http://tiny.cc/dcYEB

80 If the answer is throwing money at a problem, does it matter where the money is thrown?   No, it doesn't.

81 And he was supposed to sign that today, right?   And that was the rush?

But then he took off to Chicago and put it off for a day?  (Or more?  Did he sign it yet?)  Because he's going to all of a sudden panic and think... I gotta know what's in there!

82

Synova,

I partially agree with you but it's not classic micromanagment. It's image control. Classic micromanagers do work themselves to death in the belief that if they want the job done right, they have to do it themselves, and they are willing to work themselves to death to prove it.

But Obama suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, among other things. And people with NPD devote their lives to construction and maintenance of what they see as a  'perfect' image. Since they labor to maintain the fantasy that they are perfect and everyone else is flawed, they don't really 'trust' anyone to do anything because, since the rest of us are not perfect we will only make him look bad. That's why he mocked Biden so quickly - he cannot bear the thought of his actions being perceived as less than perfect.

Obama is lazy and has never/will never work an honest job because he deludes himself that he is special . He thinks his very existance contributes to our society the same way that we lesser beings contribute our labor. At times his NPD shows through even more when he believes his half backed guess, hunch, impression etc. constitutes sound policy that an entire nation can and should rely on - without question. He doesn't feel the need to study, consult, research etc. and is proud of his ability to rattle of easy solutions that are not allowed to be proven false right at that moment.  Hence, he responds to facts that threaten his god-like self image by saying "I won." That's not normal pyschology, it's not confidence, it's a delusional belief resulting from NPD. And having a fragile narcissist in control of the USA is very dangerous. Narcissists are capable of unspeakable, tireless rage - and he has US to vent his rage upon.

So I believe his is micromanaging (in that other people should be allowed to do their jobs but he won't let them) and lazy (no concept of a work ethic except when talking to his 'subjects') and dangerous (why do you think he kept saying he was ready to 'rule').

83 And then there will be all the times he acts "decisively" in order to prove that he can.

Sort of like talking "tough" with Pakistan.

84 how is it that Obambi can't catch the tallest man in Afghanistan?

85

LBJ tried to micro-manage Vietnam and we all know had that worked out.

 

Before we get too carried away with the comparisons here, even though LBJ micro’d the military they were still succesful despite his interference. The cong were defeated and the North had been beat back. The South had total control of their country when we left.

 

It wasn’t until the lying treaty breaking assholes with a (D) after their name pulled the rug out from under them that the North was able to move down and take over. They were still getting massive amounts of aid from Russia and China.

86 Posted by: ransomnote at February 16, 2009 04:44 PM (SI17F)

100% right on!

87 I'd like to hope the delays in reinforcing Afghanistan are brought about by big-boy issues like "making sure the overland supply route through Khyber Pass is secure" or "now that Moscow fucked us in Kyrgyzstan, how do we air resupply". Meanwhile just tell Teleprompter Jesus to go have a smoke break and fuck with something else. 

88 You may be right, ransomnote.    It fits pretty well.

And the public mocking of Biden was disturbing.   It really was.

89

ransomnote is my sockpuppet. 

Okay its not but he stole what I was going to say only less so without the big words and logical structure.

90 You knew I wasn't finished with my waffles, right?

91

What a bad time to be living by myself with guns in the house. 

I don't know how to use the tiny url thingy, so I'll say I just read an article on news dot yahoo dot com that was titled "Newest US troops in dangerous region near Kabul."  Between the Associated Press bullshit and the Obama mind control bullshit, my bullshit meter just redlined. 

Here's a sample: "It is a common complaint from Afghan leaders. President Hamid Karzai has long pleaded with U.S. forces not to kill innocent Afghans during military operations and says he hopes to see night raids curtailed. "

92 O'Dumbo has already broken Slick Willie's record for lies. It only took 25 days to outdo Slick's eight years. Tommorow he will send the National Debt to 2.5 + times what it is today. From now on you will work 10 months for the government and 2 months to feed your family, or you can dig in your background and find a negro there somewhere, then you can go on lifelong welfare. No other options exist. A man who never worked a day or 'earned' a penny in his live became president. maybe you can to.

93

Soon as I learned what 'arugula' was and saw him order 'waffles' for breakfast, figured he was a limped-wrister...and not in a good way (like blowing guys).

He's weak, and he's never dealt with real life issues.  No one ever smacked him in the mouth for saying something stupid or for being an arrogant dick mitten.  He's been coddled his whole life...how did that happen for a black man in a racist country?

94 A touch of narcissism may be a prerequisite to high public office, though.   Otherwise who would consider themself the best person for the job?

And while I usually make a habit of trying to find the kindest explanation for behavior, ie. Obama cares about doing a good job and will try to keep direct control over the things he feels are most critical, I'm certainly open to the idea of a bit of image protection.   Not taking a stand, the voting "present", the seeming to be open to all ideas when he was editor of the law review, those things tend to keep as many people as possible liking you.   And the mockery... making a joke of Biden, the pig and lipstick jokes, the cuts to Hillary "you're likable enough", and all the various, small, *deniable*, things he's done... it's almost impossible to believe that he'd really actually flip someone off during a speech, but at the same time, as much as there is no way at all to show it was deliberate or even suggest that it was without coming accross as a bit deranged... a person has to wonder. 

95

The only reason he was so tough on Afghanistan during the campaign was to portray it as a negative contrast to our primary efforts and focus on Iraq.  If our battle was only in Afghanistan during the campaign he would have framed that war as a strategic mistake too.

Exactly.  Trying to rationalize his positions is a waste of time.  They are matters of posture and convenience and nothing else.  The MSM has managed to put a deeply flawed person in the White House at a time when we are in great peril, both economically and in terms of national security, and he is surrounded by many other people who are even worse.

If we cannot find a legal and ethical way to stop the uncontrolled influence of the MSM upon our national institutions, we will surely perish.  The MSM is nothing but unaccountable power weilded by wealthy elites who have dangerously childish schemes for changing our society.

We are truly being dragged helplessly into danger by these infants... think of the old sci-fi flick, The Attack of the 50-foot Baby!

96

I think Obama suffers from Class President syndrom.  He is cute, popular, etc., but he has no sense of "thought".  He has so many panels, commitees and advisors because he has always had people make decisions for him.  He is so conditioned to this that he probably has problems following complex thoughts.  He fails to see 6 steps down from his decisions because he can't.  He has never had to see the consequences of a decision.  His view on abortion and the stimulus proove that.

A popular man is popular because he has never been decisive. 

97 I wouldn't make the mistake of saying that Obama isn't smart.   He can deliver a back-handed insult like no one.   The man is a master.

98

Now, up at 5 or 6 am . . .

How do we know he's up at 5 or 6 am, he's the president and can do amything he pretty much damn well pleases.  His first morning he got up at 8:30 am because of that crack binge he went on the night before.

I think the reason he doesn't want to hang around the White House is he found out after he moved in that the target of the fourth plane was the White House.

99 And the public mocking of Biden was disturbing.   It really was.

It certainly was!  I wouldn't do that to anybody.  And he does it to everybody, including - his own guy!

Goat, I agree with you about the smoking, come to think of it.  I remember when I smoked, being somewhere I couldn't was like being in a jail.

And I don't think he is really committed to not smoking.  I think he is committed to *mostly* not smoking, which can really put you between a rock and a hard place.

100 Missing sentence from the final quote in the original post:  "Defense Secretary Robert Gates called Obama's deliberate approach on his first troop decision 'entirely appropriate.'"

Is Gates lying?

101 I wonder how long it is going to be before the spin stops being "but its better than Bush" after saying something really lame about President Obama? Two years? Four? Probably five, if he can get reelected.

102

Is Gates lying?

You can't categorize opinion as a lie or truth.  You can assume that your cabinet officer will always default to being politically correct when speaking about his boss.

103 November 27, 2008  - Advisers to President-elect Barack Obama have assured Jewish leaders that the United States will not take part in the so-called Durban II conference, the JC has learned.

February 16, 2009  - In a major foreign-policy decision taken over the weekend, President Obama has decided to legitimize the United Nations’s “anti-racism” forum known as Durban II. State Department officials announced in a press release buried on Saturday, that starting today the United States will attend for the first time the preparatory meetings of this controversial U.N. conference.

Oops.  Promises, expiration date, etc.

104

There is no Obama - the responsibility for him rests with the fucktards who elected the fucktard.  Share your pain by finding one and yelling at it!

105

I wonder how soon it will be until we are (GOD FORBID) attacked again?  Does he have a plan for the events after the attack?  Sure seems he has a plan that will lead up TO the attack.

Since he was elected I find myself hugging my kids just a little longer, a little harder.

106 Is Barry delusional and conflicted?

If he believed his own hype, he now can't back down, even when confronted with a dire need for comprehensive understanding of multiple situations.

So he punts .. or evades ... but tries to sound presidential or omniscient.

Obambi is trying to take a calculus test, but barely made it through algebra.  He can't admit he is lost, so he'll come up with a new math ... and spout nonsensical answers ...

Have we ever had a president have a mental break down in office?  

107 Clearly he is not a good decision maker.  Have you seen his wife?!  That bitch is ugly inside and out.

108 "You can assume that your cabinet officer will always default to being politically correct when speaking about his boss."

Not every Republican assumes Obama is going to fail, poly.

109 'entirely appropriate' because Gates has no read on Obama and has no idea if Obama has any idea of what's going on. Gates is not lying.

110 If we cannot find a legal and ethical way to stop the uncontrolled influence of the MSM upon our national institutions, we will surely perish.  The MSM is nothing but unaccountable power weilded by wealthy elites who have dangerously childish schemes for changing our society.

Operation Pipewrench....

/dead horse + lead pipe

111 Obama on Afghanistan..."Present".

112 Posted by: virgin Lebanese goat until Ace visited
LOL

113 Obama flip flops because his Foreign policy is so weak that he allowed the Russians to pay off the Kyrgyz government to kick us out of our base in Kyrgyzstan without a fight. This move will hurt our efforts in Afghanistan.

114

Are we kidding ourselves?! If it weren't Iraq, the neo-communists would be screaming and whining about Afghanistan - we fail to acknowledge how many opposed actions in Afghanistan.

Lo and behold, those who oppose further presence in Afghanistan are coming out of the woodwork like crazy, and Obama will submit - they will sacrifice the lives and memories of those who sacrificed and died to give others the OPPORTUNITY to better themselves, their people, and their countries - and they will do it all to further their political power.

115 I mean... he pulled the Census in because the Census is important.   No.  He's pulling the Census to try and rig the system.  Also, delegating isn't lazy.  That's a ridiculous statement.  Delegating is smart.  People who don't delegate are ego driven and bad leaders.  Anyone who manages a big entity has to delegate.  It is a must.  You set the context and the goals, then delegate to get the goals done under that context.  Don't look too hard into this.  Obama isn't delegating because he's an idiot.  It's not complex.  He has no leadership ability or experience.  He probably has no idea what delegation is.  Somebody go get him a copy of "Who Moved My Cheese" or "The One Minute Manager."

116

Sgt Dan,

I suspect delays, like his signing the porkulus, are based his need for worship - his impromptu holiday will give Denver the time it needs to erect greek columns or some other tribute to his greatness. I believe they are also due to his need to be in control of everything and he is finding omnipresence harder than it looks - so he will slow everything down in order to give each issue his midas touch.

The important details you describe will be carried to him by those he finds threatening because most military people are trained to be self reliant and carry themselves with pride (they are the opposite of someone like Reid or Biden). So some general shows up in Obama's office with more information in his head than Obama has in his own jug eared head and right away that's a problem. How does god take advice from 'mere' soldiers? Whomever wants to reach him with big boy issues has to be master at letting Obama act like he already knows all the battle field variables, is a more seasoned warrior, and is only allowing himself to be addressed by a 'lesser' as an indulgence. Maybe this isn't an unusual hurdle for the generals etc. but I think the stakes are higher now.

Synova,

A touch of narcissim or able confidence could help someone rise to presidential heights. But that would not be Narcissistic Personality Disorder. To be diagnosed with NPD is to be classified as a) a person without a conscience b) a person without a 'true' cohesive personality and c) a person who cannot be cured.

Lifes experiences can soften and temper the edges of a normal person with a narcissistic streak. But a person with NPD remains abusive even if they get better at hiding it. Obama's rudderless, ephemeral presence as the head of the law review or as the wonder candidate for the presidency is, I believe, a result of his pathological need for approval (therefore commit to nothing) and b) a person without a true cohesive personality. Obama can't state his positions if there is nothing inside him that holds convictions other than the defensive need to look like a man of principle - it's all an act.

I wondered, and still wonder, about that hand gesture. Some people said it was obvious but I wasn't sure because.....WHO would ACT that way? As a presidential candidate???On national television where we can all see him?? That is a toxic clue. When I first studied NPD I would read accounts of persons with NPD attempting to destroy their family members and spouses utterly, as humans. The whole time I kept sighing *but WHO could ACT that way*? Sometimes I have the same reactions to criminals who do preposterous things - WHO would think they could get away with that?? The answer? No one. There isn't an intact person with a conscience inside a human with NPD. There is an airfield with various ego and thought propelled aircraft all taking off and landing at different agles without any guiding direction from a tower - there is no one in the tower. There are fragments of a destoryed personality swirling around inside, the person with NPD feels horribly empty and knows something is wrong - and builds an external god-like image of himself to compensate. And then he takes his anger out on others. I appreciate your goodness of heart to think the kindest thing when in doubt; I believe that you are probably often correct for doing so. But there are people who are incapable and undeserving of your kindness and one of them, IMHO, is our POTUS.

117 Obama is now "questioning the timetable, the mission and even the composition of the new forces."

Translation:  He's ordering white flags even as we speak.

118 I don't know if NPD is more prevelant in people with abandonment issues but if so, Obama is a prime candidate.  His father abandoned him. His mother sent him away to be raised by his grandparents while she kept his baby half sister with her.  That's gotta hurt.

119

I don't know if NPD is more prevelant in people with abandonment issues but if so, Obama is a prime candidate.  His father abandoned him. His mother sent him away to be raised by his grandparents while she kept his baby half sister with her.  That's gotta hurt.

I read a really poorly designed website all about this before the election.  The guy claimed Obama has NPD and Hitler had it etc.

120 The last election was a perfect storm of stupid. The problem was the Dims and MSM began to believe their own propaganda about Chimpy McHitlerburton. And when that happened, well hell, if this barely subliterate moron can be President of the United States, then *anyone* can. And do a better job. That's how we wound up with BO. Granted the bench wasn't very deep for the Dims, so a guy that exhibited supreme confidence despite never accomplishing anything on his own. And who could give a good speech(with a teleprompter). And heck, who was black so they could feel all warm and fuzzy about voting for a minority. Leftards still believe it. They're still waiting for this genius to really show what he capable of. ransomnote is right on target. Except, BO is also a walking ball of childhood resentment. That's the reason for the snarky putdowns. The guy's a little bitch. He's the guy who'll make fun of someone or shoot a surreptitious bird when safe and surrounded by friends. Call him out and he'll fold or rage ineffectively, then fawn all over you later. That's why Snowe, Collins and Specter's betrayal was so harmful. It took away the one weapon the Republican's had against this know-nothing, lazy, malignant narcissist .

121

The guy's a little bitch. He's the guy who'll make fun of someone or shoot a surreptitious bird when safe and surrounded by friends. Call him out and he'll fold or rage ineffectively, then fawn all over you later.

Damn, rinseandspit, you just described so many dumbasses I had to call out (harshly after giving them twenty chances) and then felt guilty since they literally started crying.

122 Weak dudes are fucking epidemic in America now.  We need to toughen the hell up. 

123 Meanwhile Pahhk e stan has given control of the Northwest Frontier Province to the Taliban while Obama's crack foriegn policy team looks on. The Northwest Frontier Province is on the border with Afghanistan and this deal pretty much gives the Taliban their own fucking country. We should send Holbrooke, Clinton and Obama thank you cards.

124 There was no betrayal from Snow, Collins, and Specter. Betrayal is when someone does something unexpected or out of character, a shocking turnabout. We all knew it was coming.

But regarding President Obama? Dead on analysis. That's exactly on target.

125 #119 This guy is a fucking whack job.NPD my ass.

126

Polynikes,

NPD is more prevelant in people with abandonment issues. It's thought to start as a failure first to bond (to a parent or gaurdian) and then to learn to see oneself as a separate person (from the parent or gaurdian). This occurs in normal people from 2-4 years of age. This is when the personality, with it's conscience, forms. Formative years in a positive environment could heal early damage but it doesn't look like Obama ever had much of a chance throughout his childhood. The reason there's no cure for NPD once a person reaches late teens/early twenties is that therapy works by interaction with a person's true personality (including conscience)- and sufferers of NPD don't have one, and science does not have the power to create one. Once the damage is done you have a self seeking person without a conscience who naturally quite damaging to others.

Bill #106,

I wondered that too. Obama can't handle the errosion of his self delusion - then what?

Ombudsman,
Chronic lateness is also said to be a control issue - asserting that all must wait upon you emphasizes that the sun rises and sets on you. And no one at the meeting dare say "Where have you been! We have all been waiting...."

127 gator, That's what's so awful about having BO as our country's leader. Whichever leader, whether Russian, Chicom, or your favorite islamic nutball, figures him out will just roll the guy.

128 about afghanistan:  bambi will fold completely.  whether he'll bring our people home in utter defeat where he might meet with criticism, i don't know.  i just hope like hell he doesn't leave the all over there with no supply lines to die (& have the media cover for him).

129 #126 You sound like that fucking idiot Limbaugh.Cuckoo.

130 #128  Like Bush did?

131

That's it...I mean it is so damn obvious when you run into one of these dick mittens.  They pout and stomp, but will back down everytime.  And, they're in all walks of life.  I once had a big ex-Marine tenant that wouldn't pay his rent on time, and I finally got in his face about it, and I'll be damned, bitch started crying.  I hope it was an act.  I imagine almost all politicians are this sort.

Obama talks big and has such an arrogant prick demeanor about himself, but he's probably never had to be tough.  He was a fat little kid, grew up in Hawaii in private school, went to Harvard, etc.  Someone willing to cut someone's head off or live in a cave for years will take Obambi to the woodshed.

We're in trouble, and I don't think people realize to what extent.  They're still glowing because we have an unqualified amateur as POTUS that just so happens to be half-black.

132 107 Clearly he is not a good decision maker.  Have you seen his wife?!  That bitch is ugly inside and out.

Posted by: outraged at February 16, 2009 05:31 PM (penCf)

As they say, the only way she could get uglier, is to get bigger!

 

133

Rinseandspit,

I like your analysis and agree with it and all the sadness it brings. I was suprised that some of my friends actually drank the koolaid. I couldn't figure out why they would never hire someone at work with no experience but said "Can't we just give him a chance?" when it came to POTUS??? Unbelievable.

I remember reading on a blog that the deepest reason that libs hated Bush with rare passion (BDS) was because, for a guy whom they framed as a witless simian, he ran circles around them, got elected twice etc. and there was nothing that they in their brilliance could do about it. Hmmmm...he won...and strangely he never felt Obama's need to say so.

I have a friend with an IQ of 175 who claims that Obama is a genius with an IQ of 148. Oh I argued with her on that (despite my average IQ) because Obama seems so profoundly witless. "Genius?" I shouted. But she perservered in saying so. She said that she was fortunate to never be the person with the highest IQ in the class growing up - it made her doubt her assertions and check her facts. It's her opinion that he was too often the person with the highest IQ and sees no need to check his facts etc. I dunno....the idea of his having an IQ above the double digits still irks me...but her theory might account for a portion of that smirk on his face. And may account for more of liberal dillusion - define Bush down and then point to Obama's IQ as proof of superiority....ok now I am dispondent again......

134

MarieOsmand,

Hi! Nice to meet you.

135 And you can be assured that 'outraged' is a real oil painting.

136 Likewise ronsomnote.

137

I think Bulldog McAssenstein and Token-ya make a nice couple.  The older daughter is very pretty and the little one is cute as a button.

They could look like John Merrick with third degree burns and Kaposi's sarcoma, I wouldn't care.  But, their belief system will fundamentally change what America once stood for, namely self-determination and limited government.

Don't get me wrong...I'd say the same thing about the repubs today.  Sadly, it feels as though we have no options short of disrupting the government.

138

If we cannot find a legal and ethical way to stop the uncontrolled influence of the MSM upon our national institutions, we will surely perish.  The MSM is nothing but unaccountable power weilded by wealthy elites who have dangerously childish schemes for changing our society.

YES THERE IS A WAY!  WE CAN BOYCOTT THE SPONSORS OF

THOSE NEWS ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE DISAGREE WITH!!!

Beginning with you-know-who we could hit them so hard their Mexican Pa'tron would want his money back!!!  and all we have to do is simply not buy their Goddamn Products!!!

139 Someone willing to cut someone's head off or live in a cave for years will take Obambi to the woodshed.

We're in trouble, and I don't think people realize to what extent. 

I agree, and we should start talking about what we can DO about it!

140 Marie Osmond is a nice lady.

And... for the rest:  To be diagnosed with something means that the symptoms are bad enough that a person has trouble functioning.   That doesn't mean, at all, that a person can't have a far milder version of the same thing and function.  

Saying that Obama has NPD because so much of his behavior fits and that this means that it's full blown NPD is more than I'm willing to accept.    I don't know of any psychological behavioral disorder that is all or nothing.   The psych things that seem to be, are physical disorders.  

For one thing, he doesn't seem controlling in his home.   And wouldn't he be?

It may well color his process, to make image control a significant element of his decision making, to fuel the micro-managment, and lead to indecisiveness and all of these things.  

141 "...the public mocking of Biden was disturbing.   It really was." -- Synova

Absolutely right!!!!    I'm glad to see that someone else was deeply troubled by the assholish way in which he referred to someone who should (at least theoretically) he his strong right arm.

Now I have ZERO use for Biden who is an inside-the-beltway, bloviating imbecile.  But to see the Odiot trashing him so arrogantly is painful.  I guess Obama forgot that he personally selected Biden as his VEEP -- so doesn't Biden's gaffe-filled idiocy reflect back upon the O himself???

142 #133 Ransomnote
I have a friend with an IQ of 175 who claims that Obama is a genius with an IQ of 148.

Are you sure she wasn't using Kelvin scale instead of Fahrenheit?   LOL

143 Bill, I will happier if that's true!  : )

144 Hush now baby don't you cry
Mama's gonna make all of your
Nightmares come true
Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you
Mama's gonna keep you right here
Under her wing
she won't let you fly but she might let you sing
Mama will keep baby cosy and warm
Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
Of course Mama's gonna help build the wall

Mother do think she's good enough for me
Mother do think she's dangerous to me
Mother will she tear your little boy apart
Oooh aah, mother will she break my heart

Hush now baby, baby don't you cry
Mama's gonna check out all your girl friends for you
Mama won't let anyone dirty get through
Mama's gonna wait up till you come in
Mama will always find out where
You've been
Mamma's gonna keep baby healthy and clean
Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
You'll always be a baby to me

Mother, did it need to be so high.

145 IRT #133 Ransomnote:

I'm unwilling to concede him a respectable IQ without more documentation than we've seen so far.  His performance to date certainly does not support such cognitive ability (a degree of glibness -- yes, I'll give him that).

Rather, I wonder if his early childhood history may have included skewed external perceptions of an otherwise average IQ to be significantly above the mean.  As his grandparents' "Golden Child", he may have rarely encountered negative feedback on his performance.  This would have then reinforced his over-inflated self-image.

PostScript:  Several studies have shown an INVERSE correlation between capability and self-esteem in certain environments.  The hypothesized mechanism being that barely-capable folks do not know that they're incapable without external feedback.  Therefore, even when they do poorly on standardized tests, they arrogantly feel that they're doing great.

146 "...of course, this is spun by some Politico so-called reporter as a "methodical and independent decision-making style" which is a sharp break from the "usual style" of Bush 43. ...the "usual" Bush 43 style that won the war in Iraq. Is THAT the "Bush Style" they mean???

147 Sadly our first affirmative action president has Peter Principled.

148

Synova,

I really hope you are right, about everything. At first I thought about how happy I'd be if you are and then I realized that he would still be destroying our economy and jeapardizing our national security and that did dampen my optimism a little.

I find myself wondering, if I had his resume (if I were he), why would I believe I would be the best person to be president of the United States? On what would I base all my sweeping promises? I'd be a junior senator with no accomplishment to my name proclaiming that my election will mark the day that the seas ceased to rise etc. Even without the economic meltdown, I'd have islamofacism, Russia, Iran, China etc. I'd have to be so sure of myself and my lack of experience that I'd cut other statesmen off by saying "I won."  

149

deMontjoie

You comment is the reason I will sleep better tonight! The cognitive dissonance was getting to me!

150 Obama's Afghanistan policy is now beyond Waffles... it's more like a Western Omelet, at this point. What an indecisive mess.

151 At first I thought about how happy I'd be if you are [right] and then I realized that he would still be destroying our economy and jeapardizing our national security and that did dampen my optimism a little.

Well, I never made any claim that he wasn't going to destroy our economy and jeopardize our national security and generally eff up Afghanistan.  ;-)

152 150 Obama's Afghanistan policy is now beyond Waffles... it's more like a Western Omelet, at this point. What an indecisive mess.

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 16, 2009 07:20 PM (iafWn)

And to further that analogy, O-bomb-uh is about to get up out of the dining booth, walk-out without paying and see if anyone notices.   

153 The beer is making things clearer to me ...

Obama was half black, but didn't evolve through the average Chicago black man experience ... perhaps he mistook the extra dose of admiration bestowed on him at Hahverd for his achievement as a black man ... as an extra dose of admiration for being really gifted ...

Does he know his "blackness" gives him a pass on things, or does he think it is all Him?

Late night hosts still praise him as superior, and none yet dare even make a joke about his missteps ... it is still sacrilege.  Maybe after the honeymoon, his shit will stink, and farts won't be as cute.

154 I think we should call him W for Waffles and Waiver. 

155 Obama is a classic modern liberal;  Glib without being articulate, educated without receiving wisdom, proud yet lacking in accomplishment, willfully ignorant of history, and now, powerful but without an internal moral compass.

He's the founders' nightmare.

156 I have a friend with an IQ of 175 who claims that Obama is a genius with an IQ of 148.

Wouldn't surprise me if they think they have a 175 IQ. The inflation of IQ scores lately is hilarious, anyone over 150 was a stunning prodigy, a freak of nature numbering one in ten thousands. Now every kid is 140 or higher and people are testing over 190s. Moral of the story: grade inflation doesn't just happen at the school level, folks.

157 all our children are above average

158 but only half are above the median

159

Christopher Taylor,

For the longest time I ignored her statements about IQ for that reason. Whenever she mentioned her IQ I looked at her mildly as if she were mentioning the weather. Then as I began to work for her on various projects, I began to notice that she was capable of fixing theoretical problems (legacy statistics) by suddenly replacing the original theory with radically different and fully fleshed out, detailed theory that worked better. So at that point I thought to myself she was very smart but not necessarilty a genius. Then she began performing theory and paradigm replacement while integrating elaborate AI logic into simple programs like Excel because management wouldn't let her have 'real' software. Finally, when allowed to use programming software, she was producing products herself that would generally take the diverse expertise of an innovative company to create, in remarkably little time.  I was finally convinced that it is likely true - she is a genius. I agree with your premise (the Lake Wobegon effect), I've seen it myself, but in her case I believe she is indeed a genius.

160 She might be genius, but that's 140 on the IQ scale.

161 I suspect he is a bit lazy, but wants to "make the decisions" too. I bet they sit on his desk while he is busy running around and then when he goes back and forth. Like my business partner who can sit on major decisions for months. Then one day its a go. The next day, its cancelled.

162

RE: #162

Biden? Biden, is that you?

163 This is Barack Obama's expedient and well-crafted political strategy called:  being a pussy.

164 Mmmmm, waffles.

165

I've never seen a president become a miserable failure so quickly.  Not yet Jimmy Carter or Richard Nixon.  Obama is a loose cannon and the nation will pay  dearly for its bad judgement.

 

The nation will suffer for allowing two candidates of such low attainment to run.  I have no doubt that this will be repeated again and again.

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