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September 07, 2008

NYT's Article on Trig? Cute Little Puff Piece
— Ace

Team Obama has given its marching orders.

Seriously, everyone chill. You're letting the liberals gaslight you with their constant shrieking, screeching accusations.

The gaslighting and slanders and OMG WE FINALLY GOT SARAH! WOOT!'s issuing from the left of the internet are going to get worse, not better. They're going crazy. Batshit, bugfuck, eyefrigging crazy. Don't let their insanity infect you.

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1 Well, I guess if they put their hand in the fire enough times, they do eventually learn.

Posted by: Bubba Thudd (who considered being a nobel prize winning physicist) at September 07, 2008 06:23 PM (Q9kZv)

2 Now that New York Times, the paper of record for those so inclined, admits that Trig is, gasp, Sarah Palin's son, do the Troofers give up or will there be hardcore deadenders? Yeah, Sully I'm talking about you.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 07, 2008 06:30 PM (hlYel)

3 To any critics who say a woman cant think and work and carry a baby at the same time, she said, Id just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave.

Oh snap! Also it's interesting that the article points out that she wasn't in labor during the trip back like everyone has been saying. And ha! I was right! I knew they'd mention that she had an amnio and knew about the Downs. Cue shrieking about how irresponsible it was that she still had him in five . . . four . . . three . . . two . . . one

Posted by: alexthechick at September 07, 2008 06:30 PM (ByYTn)

4 Actually the interesting thing will be watching the netroots react to this. Obama can tell them to be cool all he wants they aren't going to be able to help themselves. And they are going to go ballistic at the Obama campaign and their former friends in the press for telling them to calm down. I begin to suspect that the press is going to find itself stuck between the rational majority, who is on to their act and the nut roots loony bin which is going to start feeling very, very betrayed. Obama would have been better off politcally going all in with the smears and taking his loss. At least that way two key democratic constituentcies, the press and the kos maniacs, don't melt into pools of turgid goo. As it is, there is a chance we are watching the Democratic party and the press that has become part of it melt completely down... We'll know more in a couple of weeks.

Posted by: The Obvious at September 07, 2008 06:30 PM (1g+FW)

5 Since that day, Trig Paxson Van Palin, still only 143 days old, has had an unexpected effect on his mothers political fortunes. Before her son was born, Ms. Palin went to extraordinary lengths to ensure that his arrival would not compromise her work. She hid the pregnancy. She traveled to Texas a month before her due date to give an important speech, delivering it even though her amniotic fluid was leaking. Three days after giving birth, she returned to work.

She wanted to get back to Alaska to have that baby, said a friend, Curtis Menard. Man, that is one tough lady.

Wow. What a strong woman.

If I could vote any harder for her, I would.

Posted by: Ack at September 07, 2008 06:30 PM (qhAlm)

6 You're about 7 days too late there, NYT. Way to keep up.

Posted by: runninrebel at September 07, 2008 06:30 PM (qAMnO)

7 Shit! I was hoping the Trig Trutherism would continue at least a few more weeks. seeing the Kossacks whip themselves up like this was actually humorous (and helpful).

I too agree that the all of a sudden simultaneous suspension of hostilities on Trig and Bristol by the Deciders and the nutroots is just too coincidental. Remember: Kos has Obama staffers writing and commenting there, as do the Deciders.

Townhouse 2, Electric Boogaloo must be burning up tonight.

Posted by: eddiebear at September 07, 2008 06:30 PM (P+3e2)

I found it amusing that Sarah having the baby "is tangible proof of Ms. Palins anti-abortion convictions."

Cause, you know ... if you're pro-choice, there is really only one choice.

Perhaps Governor Palin is pro-life?

Posted by: fretless at September 07, 2008 06:33 PM (H/SkQ)

9 This is NOT GOOD! First it was Andi, now the NY Times? What next? Obama inviting Palin over for a bbq and jello shots? They're up to something....the lefty equivalent of Karl Rove is probably behind all this.

Posted by: DngrMse at September 07, 2008 06:35 PM (u/+56)

10 Seriously, everyone chill. You're letting the liberals gaslight you with their constant shrieking, screeching accusations.

That's hilarious coming from a guy we have to scrape off the ceiling after he has one of his "Sullivan Attacks."

Posted by: grc at September 07, 2008 06:35 PM (7PWvE)

11 Without mentioning a single one of the crazy theories, they dispelled them all.

That's pretty deft, actually.

But, yeah, marching orders.

Posted by: blaster at September 07, 2008 06:35 PM (KpEAZ)

12 Cue shrieking about how irresponsible it was that she still had him in five . . . four . . . three . . . two . . . one

Which will immediately be followed by an additional 2 point bounce courtesy of Mrs. Palin.

I have a friend who was a moderate to liberal guy. He had a son about 6 months ago and now to the right of me and embarrassed by how he bought into a lot of the shit like that the NY Times/"elite" culture sells.

He's become pretty conservative and vehemently pro-life in a very short period of time and he's so into Palin as a candidate it's not funny. I have to believe there are a lot of people in that position.

Say what you want about McCain, Lord knows I have, but he's absolutely befuddled the left with this choice.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 07, 2008 06:36 PM (hlYel)

13 alexthechick: I thought the Monday morning quaterbacking by the OBs was silly but of course will be seized upon by her haters.

Posted by: grc at September 07, 2008 06:37 PM (7PWvE)

14 So how long before Nutroots© turns on Obama as they turned on Hillary?

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 07, 2008 06:38 PM (KOkrW)

15 There is some freaky shit in the air and it's starting to scare me. Did that scientist shoot that particle collider thing recently?

Posted by: allswell at September 07, 2008 06:39 PM (qbClc)

16 This is an index of the upcoming battle inside the Left. Who will lead the faithful... dKos, DU, Atrios... or the Old Grey Lady? Who is really the leader? Nothing is more fun than watching enemies eat each other alive.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 07, 2008 06:39 PM (AZGON)

17 The attacks on Palin don't go away just because they stopped.

This somewhat underlines just how bad they were, Every single sentence talking about how smart, tough, and wonderful a mom Sarah Palin is just makes the attacks we all remember that much worse to remember.

There have to be a few million idiots out there who wonder if those attacks are reasonable, and if Sarah Palin is a good person if a lot of people said ugly things about her. When it becomes accepted truth that Sarah is a great governor and mother, obviously more voters will like her. Obama may be wise to curtail the attacks as much as he can, but that's not even close to taking them back, and I don't see how they limit the damage from past attacks.

If Mccain is up 10 points in a valid poll, then he's up by 15 after the Bradey effect. Obama can't talk about his POW stories,or show his awesome reformist attitude, or show us his amazing VP. He can only whine about sick people without healthcare, and talk about government programs. That's it.

Posted by: Shill at September 07, 2008 06:43 PM (8jYMc)

18 Okay, I don't want to get anyone's panties in a bunch, but what if both McCain and Obama get 269 electoral votes and the House gets to coronate Obama? If you give McCain NH, VA and OH. And you give Bambi NM, CO, PA, MI, MN and IA you come out with both getting 269. FUCK! Anyone want to assuege my fears?

Posted by: Rasputin at September 07, 2008 06:45 PM (tunH+)

19 This article is by the same women who wrote the article suggesting that mothers could not hold high office.

This is their way of apologizing.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 07, 2008 06:46 PM (rWvvO)

20 it took three motherfuckers to write that article. guess they couldn't stomach it all one-by-one. will be interesting to see how this plays out...

Posted by: jason at September 07, 2008 06:51 PM (MELd7)

21

Jessica's Well has two good posts.

"So even Obama's "basketball cool" image thing is blocked by an actual accomplishment by.....guess who."

From the second post:

"Their work finished investigating Tony Rezko and William Ayers, media descend upon Wasilla...And had I been the webmaster for Wasilla Warrior Hockey, here is the web page that would probably have gotten me fired."

Posted by: Looking Glass at September 07, 2008 06:52 PM (/j9WY)

22 Every time I see leftists described as "liberals" it makes me cringe. Its like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

These are not people who believe in liberty. They are not advocates for freedom. They do not believe in individual rights. They do believe that the world can be made a better place by placing it firmly under the heel of their boot. They feel that restricting freedom and denying liberty are the keys to making the world a better place. As sick and evil as that is, it is what they truly believe. They are would-be tyrants and should rightly be identified as such.

When you call a leftist a liberal, you're allowing them to define the language that is used to identify them. This hands them the advantage, if not a victory.

The left loves to play word games. They are masters of manipulating language to obscure their own intentions and malign the intentions of their ideological foes.

Posted by: Lee at September 07, 2008 06:54 PM (LxqQW)

Gabe's right.

And let's remember that the good things about Palin would have come out anyway.

Now that their job (i.e., smearing her) is done, the media can cease and desist and pretend they had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: jdub at September 07, 2008 06:54 PM (hUStE)

24 Rasputin,

I think it would almost be worth it if the democrats selected Obama that way. The country would be ticked off, and it would help get rid of the democratic congress, and congress is the worst branch for democrats to control (all are very problematic, but congress is the more powerful and costly).

I can tell you it's probably not going to be a tie, but it's a possibility. But looking at Colorado, being this close even with the convention there, makes me thing Obama will lose that state. And remember, Mccain is going to be relying on the basic 72 hour task force GOTV program Rove developed. Getting the vote out will decide the election either way. Anyone can help if they are willing to go to a swing state and knock on some doors just to let the (likely Republican) voter know the election is impending. That alone is a huge help for turnout.

Posted by: Shill at September 07, 2008 06:57 PM (8jYMc)

25 The entire issue of amnio results and the modern idea that a woman must abort if the child has a genetic defect is a huge, huge hot button issue for me. It's eugenics, pure and simple. If the child is not "perfect" it must be destroyed. That's disgusting. I fully support the idea of genetic testing so that the family is prepared ahead of time, but it's turned into a matter where it's simply assumed if the tests come up positive that an abortion will be done. It's utterly devaluing the lives of those with disabilities. It really really angers me.

Posted by: alexthechick at September 07, 2008 07:03 PM (ByYTn)

26 #21 - That linky about the b-ball, run it to ground, in the article Obama says:

"You know, I would play her a game of horse," said Obama. "She looks like shes got some game."

Jeebus, some moron on here wrote that shit days ago. I swear.

Posted by: blaster at September 07, 2008 07:04 PM (KpEAZ)

Some hardcore fundies will not be happy that Gov. Palin had amniocentesis testing, as they do not believe in it. I think some on the Left who were not "Trig Truthers" were still speculating that Gov. Palin did not have the test due to her "crazy" religion, and so she did not know her baby would have Down syndrome, which is why she would have taken the risk of the trip to Texas etc.

And the article also explains that she was not exactly putting in 10-hour workdays right after bringing Trig home.

So even some of the milder skepticism about the pregnancy and birth have been put to rest. At first I was pissed that the NYT was even writing this story, but now I'm glad.

Posted by: rockmom at September 07, 2008 07:05 PM (iZqUY)

28 Hey, we got the "good" stuff out there first so that you all have to listen to the idiot moonbats continuously bring it up again and again, as though it were the truth. Just like we did with the war and with Bush and every other bullshit, unsourced or flat-out wrong story we've been responsible for (remember Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson?)

So now we can go back and correct the record, as much as it pains us to do it, confident that it wil not change anything with at least 20% of the population.

So, all in all, job well done, as far as we are concerned.

You're welcome.

Posted by: MSM at September 07, 2008 07:06 PM (EW49d)

Getting the vote out will decide the election either way. Anyone can help if they are willing to go to a swing state and knock on some doors just to let the (likely Republican) voter know the election is impending. That alone is a huge help for turnout.

Not to say we can't win, but McCain can't rely on the GOTV differential. That was eliminated in 2006, and while Obama's losing altitude, he still has his armies of enthusiastic zombies, esp. in Ohio and the college towns of the west.

At long last, Nancy Pelosi was right about something... they'll own the ground on election day.

That's why I can't get too excited about these poll numbers. But I can vote, and I will.

Posted by: jdub at September 07, 2008 07:07 PM (hUStE)

30 This article was not only 'fair' , it was 'kind'. Also SURPRISING. It was the godawful NYTs. It must have been one of the stopped clock moments at that vile debased agit-prop operation.

It now does not matter if the 'orders' have gone out from HQ to knock off the vileness. The damage has been already done to Obama and his droogies in the MSM and the Net. They cannot put their prior behavior back in the bottle and everyone has already made up their minds on how they view the recent crapfest.

Namely they HATE IT.

Now if they start producing 'nice' stories the effect will not be to retract any of the previous garbage. It will merely give Palin more 'bounce'. And when the MSM returns to its roots any future 'garbage' will simply be tuned out by the 'audience.

Cue the fat lady ----- This thing is OVER.

Posted by: dougf at September 07, 2008 07:09 PM (16GPT)

31 So any guesses as to the new strategy form the Obama camp?

I'm going to guess economy, especially with the Fannie/Freddie bailout.

If there is a smart person in the McCain camp, they should tie the "poor" economy to the cost of energy. Send a drilling message, and then package that with national security. You want no "blood for oil"? Then let us drill our own.

K

Posted by: Kestrel at September 07, 2008 07:13 PM (gBnKJ)

I too agree that the all of a sudden simultaneous suspension of hostilities on Trig and Bristol by the Deciders and the nutroots is just too coincidental. Remember: Kos has Obama staffers writing and commenting there, as do the Deciders.

Don't worry - I'm sure Karl Rove has some deep cover morons as diarists at DKos that give them the inside plans. And now would be a good time for Ace to send in some sleeper morons as well.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 07, 2008 07:16 PM (hn7Rm)

33 Detroit Free Press....PDS -- get this dude a Zanax

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080907/COL04/809070400/1081

Personally, I am enjoying these pretend to be a someone Plain third person free associations by the respectable press.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 07, 2008 07:19 PM (Om2yS)

Here is and editorial in the Washington Post giving Sarahcuda cudo's for starting the $40 Billion pipeline that no one else was able to get off the ground in over 10 years. She did it in her first year in office.

Am I living in a parallel universe now?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/07/AR2008090701984.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Posted by: robtr at September 07, 2008 07:22 PM (C6ME0)

35 "The truth shall set us free." I think somebody said somewhere.

Posted by: kelly at September 07, 2008 07:23 PM (Hpefv)

36 Hmm a positive editorial about Gov. Palin from the WAPO.

It's like bizarro world.

K

Posted by: Kestrel at September 07, 2008 07:26 PM (gBnKJ)

37 Nice article and nice catch. It appears Piper can fish, too.

Posted by: grc at September 07, 2008 07:27 PM (7PWvE)

38 I mentioned this over at LGF, but a cursory examination of NYT articles consistently shows the following usage:

Mrs. Clinton
Ms. Palin

What's the reason for this?

Posted by: j.pickens at September 07, 2008 07:30 PM (qAP/7)

39 yeah, i'd cover a grenade for brother trig.

Posted by: Mike Mansoor at September 07, 2008 07:31 PM (eKgqT)

40 don't know, j.pickens. interesting

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at September 07, 2008 07:33 PM (vC09H)

41 Trig Paxson Van Palin, still only 143 days old.

Interesting... Didn't BHO stay in the Senate 140?? something days before he launched his senate career?

That cute little baby is a good reminder of just how little time BHO actually was doing the work he was sent to Washington to do.

Am I correct on this?

Posted by: Noble at September 07, 2008 07:34 PM (hZSGI)

42
"Okay, I don't want to get anyone's panties in a bunch, but what if both McCain and Obama get 269 electoral votes and the House gets to coronate Obama?"

Rasputin, if the election goes to the House, each state's caucus gets one vote. So California gets one vote, same as Alaska. I haven't done the math, but my guess is that McCain could win that election. (And how much will Don Young enjoy casting a vote that helps make Sarah Palin Vice-President?)

Re the Times article: it looks like the dimwits in the KDM have finally clued in to the fact that their spittle-flecked attacks fired up the Republican base till it was white hot, and got millions of undecideds to watch her speech. They want to backtrack on their blunder, so they're turning down the heat, to try and get "The Narrative" back on track. But my guess is that there's no way to get that particular blob of toothpaste back into the tube.

What a weird election. And it ain't over yet.

Posted by: Brown Line at September 07, 2008 07:36 PM (OMiLl)

43 Actually the last I heard Obama was in the senate for 143 days exactly before he started running for president.

Posted by: robtr at September 07, 2008 07:36 PM (C6ME0)

44 Blaster, are you suggesting that Obama gets his marching orders from a bunch of morons? I always knew he was a hobo.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 07, 2008 07:37 PM (xIUG5)

45 Two guesses:

1. Marching orders- Bambi's camp realized that every barn door that has been dutifully kept closed for the past 18 months was just swung WIDE open. For my part, I intend to do everything I can to make sure that this is a case were the horse is already out. The media has no excuse anymore for not going into Bambi's skeletons.
2. Blowback/ Get on the bandwagon- Sarah Palin is a ratings/ circulation wet dream, but not if you're airing the slash and burn pieces. Everyone is vying for the first few interviews. McCain's camp swatted them on the nose with their own newpapers and they are being treated like the dogs they are. They'll behave... for now. I give it 3 weeks or so and it all starts flying again as people get to know Palin.

Keep in mind, the terrorist reporter were reassigned to Palin duty and haven't come home yet. They will stay in exile until they find somebody in Alaska that will say that Todd Palin is the father of their two headed baby or Sarah Palin shot their infant on while out on a hunting trip and decided to cover it up by making the poor kid into moose stew.

Posted by: Damiano at September 07, 2008 07:38 PM (aSQmq)

46 Correction - Launched his Presidential Bid.

<Sleepy>

Posted by: Noble at September 07, 2008 07:39 PM (hZSGI)

47 Re; 42, that would be unfortunate but also highly unlikely. It has never happened before. It would be pitchforks and torches time for me though.

Posted by: robtr at September 07, 2008 07:39 PM (C6ME0)

48

Beldar explains it all for you.

The Obama-Biden campaign right now is like a bobcat that decided to take a bite out of a grizzly bear's haunch. It got rewarded with a claw-swipe that ripped off an ear and half its nose. And the bear is not amused, and it's still hungry."

Posted by: Looking Glass at September 07, 2008 07:42 PM (/j9WY)

49 #37 - good article can't believe the ending:

"Conservatives have a bad history with The New York Times, she said, looking at my press ID, still smiling and still very friendly. How can I be sure that you wont take my words and twist them to suit some agenda that you already have?

Her friends from Montana leaned in and enjoyed the spectacle as I stammered my way through a response. Im working on an answer because I dont think it is the last time that question is going to come up.

Posted by: blaster at September 07, 2008 07:46 PM (KpEAZ)

50 Hey, can we not call religious conservatives "fundies"? That's how the Leftards describe any non-atheist, and it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. "Fundies" is their language, and the fundies are on our side.

Posted by: Kensington at September 07, 2008 07:49 PM (xFNQx)

51
"Re; 42, that would be unfortunate but also highly unlikely. It has never happened before. It would be pitchforks and torches time for me though."

Yes, it has, twice, in 1800 (before 12th Amendment) and in 1824 (after it).

Posted by: Brown Line at September 07, 2008 07:50 PM (OMiLl)

52 Re: 51, I didn't know that, thanks!

Posted by: robtr at September 07, 2008 07:55 PM (C6ME0)

53 I think I already mentioned it, but want to suggest, again, a contrast between Obama and Palin.

While the nice NYT article mentions the private family baby shower, a Rock Station put on a "baby shower" for Trig along with Gov. Palin to raise money and items for the families of the Alaskan national guard who have deployed family members.

Posted by: kat-missouri at September 07, 2008 07:56 PM (io+Si)

#44 - Dunno. Maybe BHO secretly comments here.

Track down the HORSE comment and you know which moron is really BHO.

Posted by: blaster at September 07, 2008 07:57 PM (KpEAZ)

55 NYT Not bashing Republicans? IT'S A TRAP--DON'T GO IN THERE. IT'S A TRAP!!!!

Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at September 07, 2008 08:01 PM (KSF7K)

56 #55 - when posting "Its a trap" you are supposed to change your handle to Admiral Akbar

Its a rule

Posted by: blaster at September 07, 2008 08:18 PM (KpEAZ)

57 Can I make a request of Ace? I think you should blog about Andrew Sulllivan's nutty character assasination campapign against Governor Palin making very clear that you're talking about Andrew Sullivan. Not everyone is a hip blogosphere reader. I think Andrew Sullivan has gone way off the deep end in his desperation to destroy Palin and I want the blogs that comment on his tactics to make it very clear to the casual reader who is being disucssed right off the bat.

Posted by: FranticFlintstone at September 07, 2008 08:31 PM (VGbp5)

58 So any guesses as to the new strategy form the Obama camp?

Yes. Prayer. Lots of on-the-knees prayer for hurricanes, job losses, market crashes, troop deaths, and scandals.

Posted by: Bart at September 07, 2008 09:03 PM (h66Dm)

59 Bart, you forgot to include trying to bribe the Clintons with at least 72 virgins and a whole lot a smackers.

Posted by: Al at September 07, 2008 09:52 PM (Lk931)

60 frantic,

I'll mention him by name when I do it at least once or twice.

Posted by: ace at September 07, 2008 10:19 PM (1WR4H)

61 Keep in mind, the terrorist reporter were reassigned to Palin duty and haven't come home yet.

And not just in Alaska. Palin went to four colleges: one in Hawaii, two in Idaho, and one in Alaska.

Will the media be dumb enough to demand those transcripts?

Posted by: JBean at September 08, 2008 12:11 AM (GHR75)

>The media has no excuse anymore for not going into Bambi's skeletons. >

Yep. But the Times/MSM don't want to go into Bambi's paper-thin backstory, and they know that if they keep poring over Palin the public will wonder why they aren't giving B the same treatment.

So, the message is, go easy on Palin so

a) the public won't desert them (and the Democts) in even more droves than they are already

b) so they can continue to go easy on Bambikins.

Posted by: Erwin Hussein O'Barry at September 08, 2008 12:50 AM (eepJm)

If Mccain is up 10 points in a valid poll, then he's up by 15 after the Bradey effect

So what, we're kneecapping people now?

Prediction: 2009's trendy newsroom insult, "Way to go, Trig". It will spread to CA, NY & Connecticut grade schools first.

Posted by: rhodeymark at September 08, 2008 01:24 AM (BeUZj)

64 Alexthechick said:

``The entire issue of amnio results and the modern idea that a woman must abort if the child has a genetic defect is a huge, huge hot button issue for me. It's eugenics, pure and simple. If the child is not "perfect" it must be destroyed. That's disgusting. ''

Disgusting, true, but I imagine a lot of doctors urge the testing out of sheer self-defense - so they don't get sued if a baby is born with disabilities and ``Why didn't you recommend an amnio so I could have gotten tested and found out in time? This is YOUR FAULT!'' (Sadly, this has really happened. Illinois, at least, has had ``wrongful birth'' suits.)

When I was pregnant with my fourth (at age 35) and my fifth (age 45) I was offered amnio, and when I refused them I had to sign a statement saying explicitly that I was refusing the test. In our lawsuit-happy society, with doctors' malpractice insurance rates stretching from here to the moon, I frankly can't blame them for indulging in a little CYA.

Posted by: Annalucia at September 08, 2008 03:45 AM (OMiLl)

65 And the NEW YORK SLIMES wonders why their losing subcribers and readers

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at September 08, 2008 05:25 AM (jyAaF)

66 Look, I don't want to have to say it.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at September 08, 2008 05:35 AM (FO+YO)

Umm, no its not a cute little puff piece.

Its a smear masquerading as a puff piece.

I read it.

About 10 mentions of her "hiding her pregnancy" and "no one even knew, not even her family and friends" all on the front page.

Then a few backhanded slaps at her risking the babies health by flying

Its the Sullivan story except in the NY Times, and not as blatant.

Nope. It AINT NO PUFF PIECE. Its a smear.

Posted by: TMF at September 08, 2008 06:44 AM (KTgUG)

68 Alexthechick, THANK YOU for saying what I've felt for years re: amniocentesis and subsequent abortion of "defective" babies. This practice is widespread in our culture, having been heavily funded and popularized by the March of Dimes among others. When my husband and I took a Lamaze refresher course before the birth of our second child (I was 40 years old at the time) my husband and I were the only couple in the class of 17 couples that had not had an amniocentesis--precisely because the procedure is usually only done to determine if an abortion "needs" to be done. Little-known FACT: the procedure itself, involving inserting a needle into the uterus, poses a risk of miscarriage and loss of the baby. Why would anyone risk that?

I don't believe Sarah Palin had an amniocentesis. News accounts say "genetic testing," but that includes a whole array of procedures now, some of them done fairly early in pregnancy, much earlier than you can do an amnio. Given the timing of Palin's finding out that Trig had Down Syndrome (fairly early on), I don't think she had amnio. In fact, the story I heard is that she refused an amnio, which they offered her in order to confirm the Down Syndrome diagnosis. She reasoned, as I did, that there was no reason to do an amnio if abortion is not considered an option.

While we're on the subject, let me just say: Can we quit calling Sarah a "pro-life hero" just because she chose not to abort her Down Syndrome baby? Albert Camus once said that you can tell a society is really going down the tubes when it starts making heroes out of people who simply do what was formerly regarded as simple, common decency.

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