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August 18, 2008

NYT: Obama's Finally Picked His VP Candidate
— Ace

The final three, according to the NYT: Tim Kaine of Virginia, Evan Bayh of Indiana, Joe Biden of Delaware.

Bill Kristol hears a different three: Kaine, Biden, and Sebelius.

So did he pick Sebelius? Does the NYT's final three not include her as a head fake? And did John McCain psychically cheat by anticipating Obama's selection through mindreading and precognition?

Meanwhile: Tim Kaine has attempted to raise taxes several times, each attempt blocked. He now faces the prospect of "difficult" cuts in education and transportation, which of course he's attempting to hide until the November election.

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1 And did John McCain psychically cheat by anticipating Obama's selection through mindreading and precognition?

Heh. Two weeks of "will he or won't he." Let's get it over already.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 18, 2008 03:18 PM (1Ug6U)

I don't see bayh bringing obama indiana.

Indiana is a very purple state, but one of the things that everyone in indiana, well, people who've ever been to chicago, while living in indiana tend to hate, it's chicago politics.

Chosing bayh won't just not do obama any good, but will do bayh a lot of harm.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 03:21 PM (ul7te)

3 Sponge Bob would have more drag than any of those.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 18, 2008 03:23 PM (6L459)

4 Welcome back, wp.

Posted by: David Ross at August 18, 2008 03:25 PM (YDaJS)

All three of these would be welcome picks from a GOP standpoint. Sebelius and Biden will send the Hillbots into fits of gnarlacious frothing rage. Bayh is a yawner. He'd be a more attractive candidate if he had been in and left Congress and was today serving as a governor, not the other way 'round.

Posted by: mike d at August 18, 2008 03:25 PM (Ug3ki)

6 If it's down to the final three, he didn't pick one. I can't say I'm sitting on the edge of my seat to find out. And all these teasers have become just annoying. The last great VP was Dick Cheney.

Posted by: grc at August 18, 2008 03:25 PM (/DyYY)

7 Sebelius' name has too many sylables, and puts her out of the running.

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 18, 2008 03:27 PM (ydkWV)

Biden's a loser from day one, might as well chose schumer, at least schumer can lend some armor when obama starts to turn right, if obama ever learns how to do it without sounding like a retard.

Or rather, like I did when I was in second grade, stuttering like a retard when required to read aloud in class.

Good on you obama, you sound like a drunken lunatic, when he was 8 years old, intimidated by large groups.

"So, Senator, what is your opinion of an individuals right to bear arms?"

"M-O-O-N, That Spells Tom Cullen,and Tom Cullen is for Change!"

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 03:29 PM (ul7te)

9 and thanks dave, I'm actually back, but not gonna be as rapidfire as before, it's impossible with the chaos aces has become.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 03:31 PM (ul7te)

10 I still say it's Sebelius, has been since day 1. Obama requires an absolute sycophant. Bayh and Biden arn't, Kaine is trying but Sebelius is the true believer.

Posted by: Rocks at August 18, 2008 03:45 PM (7rbe9)

11 She also has a twat, which is an act to assuaged the pooterphile fem's who might still be connected to hillary.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 03:49 PM (ul7te)

12 Welcome back, wickedpinto!

Posted by: eman at August 18, 2008 03:57 PM (3LTO3)

13 Still praying for McCain to pick Sarah Palin. I am so down on my knees praying for McCain to pick her...as a matter of fact, I would blow John McCain if he promised to pick her as his VP. If Obama picks some lame leftie white guy, and McCain picks Palin, this thing is sewn up.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 03:58 PM (ubHgw)

14 Please, oh please, let it be Joe Neil McKinnock Biden, king of hairplugs and plagiarism. After all, he called Obastard a "clean" black man. On the other hand, the genitalia/melanin ticket has its attractions. One is half-black, the other is a surrogate for Hillary!, who is half-female. Or so I've heard.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 04:02 PM (AZGON)

15 Hmm, Well RCP puts Obama up .5 in Indiana, but that has decreased alot (as it has in FL, OH, VA, CO, NM, and NV). Maybe he could carry IN, I mean Indianapolis, and Gary and pretty Liberal (especially Gary). Perhaps IN, could sway, I would say more than VA. One person who few people have spoken of is Elizabeth Dole, why not her for McCain? I also still really Rudy...

Posted by: BrokGrowBarRock at August 18, 2008 04:03 PM (GEVSM)

16 in re: Sebelius Does anyone think effete liberals will think Obastard is choosing a dead Finnish composer as Veep?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 04:03 PM (AZGON)

"M-O-O-N, That Spells Tom Cullen,and Tom Cullen is for Change!"

And wickedpinto keeps teh funnay even while on his meds! Sweet, I was worried you were gonna go all Robin Williams on us.

Welcome back.

Posted by: Warden at August 18, 2008 04:04 PM (Y8CGr)

If Obama picks some lame leftie white guy, and McCain picks Palin, this thing is sewn up.

But if Obama picks Sebelius, and then McCain picks Palin, we are treated to weeks of "the Republicans are just 'me too' on a female VP nominee". I am so sick of us reacting, or being portrayed to be through the lens of the MSM.

DO IT NOW, MAVERICK. PICK PALIN. NOW.

Posted by: sherlock at August 18, 2008 04:08 PM (ZrS0c)

19 Obama likes Biden because he called him "clean looking." Reason enough! Obama is an idiot but didn't he get the memo that Biden is out of his mind dumb. "Slow Joe" for VP.

Posted by: mare at August 18, 2008 04:10 PM (xMkst)

20 ...as a matter of fact, I would blow John McCain if he promised....

You're gettin' into the game a bit late. Been there, done that.

Posted by: klrtz1 at August 18, 2008 04:11 PM (MrDIe)

21 Kaine, Biden, Sebelius, and Bayh?

Holy crap. He might as well pick a bag of apples for all the good those useless whale farts are going to do him.

I agree that Palin seals the deal for Mac. Pick her, dude!

Posted by: eman at August 18, 2008 04:11 PM (3LTO3)

BrokGrowBarRock,

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN!? Not your post, your name, at least mine, can elicit speculation, That moniker means something, but I cannot fathom what it might be without an explanation.

As for carrying indiana, just cuz gary is SAID! to be the second most populous, and just because Indy, IS the most populous, you forget the way in which they keep track of geographical populations.

Gary, which I live VERY close to, is liberal, only because of the dominance of blacks, but the whites, and mexicans (the mexicans are SKYROCKETING in gary) in gary are fucking sick of the corruption, so while the broad demographic is left, the refined (remember it's statewide) is turning against the left, also remember that in the last . . . . 9 presidential elections have shown that polls have been off by as muchas 5% in their assumptions, (I'm wrong about the 5, but it was more than 5% in ohio last time) so basicaly national, and state polls always lean dem.

Also, our current governor, daniels, managed to not just pay teachers, but increase income, reduce waste at the state universities, and turn an (I'm gonna fuck this up) almost 4 billion dollar deficit, into a damn near balanced, and likely create a surplus.

If indiana is actually up for grabs, then that is an IMPORTANT point, that every indiana rep, and state rep needs to make.

Also, while NW IN politics dominate the majority of the state (they do, cuz we get a LOT of money from people who work in chicago, a LOT!) and even more than money we get media, Indiana which is still a largely rural income (not lifestyle, but income) don't trust those folks from the big city, while watching flatscreen HD TV's in their gigantic farmhouses, realizing that THEY will be treated like big city folk in taxation.

Trust me.

I am broke, and don't have a job.

Indiana is McCain, and if Obama Chose Bayh, Bayh will not have a job, I will lay the wager.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 04:16 PM (ul7te)

23 Bayh carries Indiana for Obama like Pawlenty carries Minnesota for McCain. Meaning: not. I say, pick Palin; pick her now. Make all the Dem's rewrite their speeches before their convention. I'd love to hear Hillary's speech: "but We Have A Woman At The Top Of The .... oh, damn." And what could Bill POSSIBLY say the next night. "I'd hit it!" wouldn't go over well at the Democrat convention.

Posted by: notropis at August 18, 2008 04:18 PM (FvFgp)

24 I've had another thought... Is it possible after all these nauseating months of Hope and Change and Unicorns, will the electorate decide, as the cosmological scale of Obastard's vacuity becomes more evident, that the smart vote is for known quantities? Will a McCain/Pawlenty ticket look like the adult choice precisely because it doesn't sell itself on image, bloviation and kewl grafix?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 04:19 PM (AZGON)

25 Please let it be Joe Biden, please!

Sure I have Tim Kaine in the pool and I want that free month of AoS content as much as the next moron but Biden would be so much fun.

More importantly....wp! Dude! Welcome back.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 18, 2008 04:20 PM (hlYel)

26 Sebelius

I don't know. Doesn't that name sound a little too, oh what's the word I'm looking for, oh yeah... Greek.

We'd never hear the end of it from Greek people. So forget it.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 04:21 PM (qAMnO)

27 Since we, as Republicans, are used to the taste of bitter, bitter disappointment (cf Gerald Ford, Dan Quayle, Bob Dole) just a couple of theoretical questions:

1. Who is the best possible VP pick for Obama, in terms of his ability to win?

2. What loss-guranteeing horror of a VP pick will McCain throw into our faces?

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 04:21 PM (ubHgw)

28 Sebelius - Dukakis - Sebelius - Dukakis - Sebelius - Dukakis

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 04:22 PM (ubHgw)

29 Jim62sch: 1. Hillary 2. Lieberman But "1" seems damn near impossible, and "2" seems less and less likely. So, maybe: 1. Nunn 2. Ridge

Posted by: notropis at August 18, 2008 04:24 PM (FvFgp)

30 Guaranteed sure-fire crash-and-burn GOP death: McCain/Huckabee. Only marginally worse than McCain/Lieberman. I still think, as someone else suggested elsewhere, that the true, honest, ideologically sincere ticket for Dims is Obama/Barney. The dinosaur, that is.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 04:27 PM (AZGON)

31 notropis - Yeah, picking Tom Ridge would pretty much alienate whatever few libertarians are left in the Republican party. Nothing says "civil rights" like "Department of Homeland Security"...not.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 04:31 PM (ubHgw)

32 Also, in a linguistic turn, Tom Ridge is to charisma as indigestible is to nutritious.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 04:33 PM (AZGON)

33 Crap - Politico says McCain won't announce until August 29th, and the article doesn't even mention Sarah Palin, just Romney and Pawlenty.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12619.html

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 04:34 PM (ubHgw)

While talking to Sobek, famous of the IB, I mentioned to Sobeks wife, that I heard a recommendation from one of the pundits (I forget now, I mentioned this in february) that McCain was courting Huckabee, Sobek's wife's eyes widened and said "don't tell (sobek)"

Well, I'm me, so I told sobek.

There was as close to a fury that a nice guy (a VERY nice guy btw) like sobek can have, and sobek made it clear he MIGHT vote for McCain, but not if it was McCain/huckabee.

Then I mentioned how thompson openly endorsed McCain, and I saw almost the same response.

I don't know, you would have to ask Sobek, but I don't think his opinion is unique. It might have to do with "principles" something many politicians, and politophiles are ignorant of.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 04:36 PM (ul7te)

Pawlenty would be a fine pick for McCain. He pretty much eviscerated Kaine when they appeared on that Sunday morning taking head show, and he would humiliate any of the folks on Kristol's list in a debate.

I don't know much about Bayh. I've heard he isn't an absolute dumbass though. If that's true, he may have just declined Barry's offer. Hell, even Chuck Hagel caught on to the fact that things aren't too swell in Obamaland.

Posted by: funky chicken at August 18, 2008 04:37 PM (BIuRE)

36 Ahem, Barry could pick Al Franken. Twenty years of SNL experience should lock in the moderate Dems that want a VP with live TV experience to counter McCain's POW stint and his 20 years in the Senate.

Of course Jack Murtha could do that, too.

Posted by: eman at August 18, 2008 04:38 PM (3LTO3)

37 Does anyone think McCain might pick Kasich because it's Ohio?

Posted by: Rocks at August 18, 2008 04:38 PM (7rbe9)

38 I don't know why some of you guys are so hot for Palin. She's from Alaska. Most people in this country think Alaska is a myth. Plus they talk funny up there and they have bad hair.

Other than the vag she has no appeal.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 04:40 PM (qAMnO)

39 It's not gonna be the Huckster. Yeah, I can't stand the guy, so I'm biased, but I saw a pic of the McCains and the Hucksters together, and the women were both disgusted to be there. No way Cindy McCain's gonna go on a nation wide tour with those people.....and that's a good thing!

Posted by: funky chicken at August 18, 2008 04:41 PM (BIuRE)

40
Wouldn't Obama's VP pick more properly be termed an "Apostle"?

Posted by: electricferret at August 18, 2008 04:41 PM (kKO7A)

41 He should just go with Pawlenty and try to pick up Minnesota.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 04:42 PM (qAMnO)

42 Or Romney.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 04:44 PM (qAMnO)

43 Primates please. It will be Hillary. The O's numbers are breaking bad, he needs the beast.

Posted by: toby hussein 928 at August 18, 2008 04:44 PM (evdj2)

44 Dream Team Obastard: POTUS: St. Barry O'Guiltwhite VP: Al Franken AttyGeneral: Tony Rezko SecDef: Moby SecState: George Clooney SecInterior: Al Gore SecHHS: Andy Dick SecTreasury: Scarlett Johanssen SecTransportation: the guy who went aloft in a lawn chair with helium balloons SecEnergy: The Obama Girl SecEducation: Jeremiah Wright SecVeteranAffairs: Bill Ayers SecHomelandSecurity: Boy George

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 04:48 PM (AZGON)

45
runninrebel :

And her willingness to drill ANWR, her RIDICULOUSLY pro-life outlook, the fact that she is the most popular governor in the country and staunchly conservative.

Posted by: Troika37 at August 18, 2008 04:49 PM (+skB4)

46 The O's numbers are breaking bad, he needs the beast.

But does the Beast need him? McCain is a one-termer and when Obama goes down hard the Dems will pine for Our Girl. Why should she commit to VP when Obama will probably still lose?

And can you imagine the power sharing deal that she would demand to take the spot? It would certainly be the best chance for the Dems but I don't think it's possible.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 04:49 PM (qAMnO)

47 Troika,

A-L-A-S-K-A.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 04:51 PM (qAMnO)

Bayh isn't retarded, he's a pussy.

I explained this to Mesa, he went off on a tear one time (how do you spell it? "tear?" "tere" tare?, whatever) about how indiana as a moderately "red state" (btw, you notice that the MSM has assigned us RED? as in commy? I think it was deliberate, to use the red white and blue concept, to deflect the RED concept attached to communism to the 'Pub's, but since it's supposedly a "red white and blue" theme, why aren't the undefined states, WHITE, rather than purple? See? a simple man can see complex motivations.)

Anyways, Mesa was in a . . . okay, fit, but fit isn't accurate, he was perfectly rational, about why indiana keeps electing republicans, but they trusted bayh, and so on.

Well, the reason is, (as I said) we are a truly balanced state, unfortunately, thats not always a good thing, thing is most of our 'pub's are Pussy's, but benefit, is that most of our dem's are rationale. Unfortunately, most of our dem's are also one issue politicians, I know one of them personaly.

Bayh will NOT, and NEVER WILL sell next to Obama.

Bayh works in Indiana, as a pussy, as a false centrist, but NEVER as the right hand of a leftist.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 04:51 PM (ul7te)

49 I put Ridge and Romney in the same boat. In theory, each should be good, maybe great picks - on the planet Earth not really. It won't be Ridge. Romney.....well, when I hear him on the radio, I generally think wow! this guy's is smart. When I see him on TV, all I can think is "I'm Mitt Romney and I want to sell you your new Kia." I'd love to see Palin picked now *and* McCain/Palin commercials played all through the Dim convention. The sound of lefty heads exploding would be symphonic.

Posted by: rinseandspit at August 18, 2008 04:54 PM (VFTrh)

I can't see any reason why Hillary would accept the VP offer. If I was her I'd already have my plan to depose Dingy Harry as Senate Majority Leader. It's no compliment to Hillary that I think she'd do a much better job. And Senate Majority Leader is a hell of a lot more powerful than VPOTUS.

And if she's VPOTUS and Obama somehow wins the election, he's gonna majorly fuck up...and she goes down with his ship for good.

no way--she didn't put up with BJC for all those years to humiliate herself (accepting VP) for the chance to be destroyed politically by aligning herself with Obama.

Posted by: funky chicken at August 18, 2008 04:54 PM (BIuRE)

MOST STUPID RECOMMENDATION FOR VP. Bobby Jindal.

He is too young, too inexperienced, Just like Obama.

Unlike Obama, he is strong, and principled.

Bobby has a future, a GREAT one, but it is WAY too soon.

When I was in (I'm referencing my service to prove I'm WP) I was VERY GOOD, but because I was so good, you think the commandant would say "HEY! Wicked ROCKS! lets make him AComm?

NO!

That is the beauty of obama, an untested participant, not even warrior, just participant, being assigned general.

Obama, based on experience, isn't even a SOLDIER of politics, he's barely a camp follower.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 04:56 PM (ul7te)

52 Hillary? If the Big O puts Hillary Clinton within a heartbeat of the presidency, he better hire a shitload of food-tasters and ninjas.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 04:57 PM (ubHgw)

I can't see any reason why Hillary would accept the VP offer.

Nor I.

This is a one term presidency

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 05:02 PM (ul7te)

54 Yes, Hillary knows the HMS Obamic just hit an iceberg and is doomed.

She has loaded her lifeboat with food, booze, and young women, and is already rowing away.

Posted by: eman at August 18, 2008 05:03 PM (3LTO3)

55 But if Hillary! is VP, is there a grudge match in the offing, Michelle vs Hillary? Isn't that a bit like Superman vs Batman?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 05:04 PM (AZGON)

56 I think it's more like Predator vs. Alien

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 05:05 PM (qAMnO)

57 All I know is both Hillary and Michelle have dicks, which is more than Barry has.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 05:07 PM (AZGON)

58 I'd sure love to see Obama pick Pelosi for VP. That would probably take care of both those fools all at once.

Posted by: rrobin at August 18, 2008 05:23 PM (8nB5X)

59 McCain/Huckabee is a total nonstarter for me. I'll stay home and just drink heavily.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 18, 2008 05:29 PM (6L459)

2. What loss-guranteeing horror of a VP pick will McCain throw into our faces?

Huckabee. Only guy I can think of who'd probably have me openly rooting for McCain to lose.

Posted by: MlR at August 18, 2008 05:34 PM (PLmsY)

When was the last 1 term presidency followed with a presidency of an individual of the same party?

Obama is WAY TOO BAD to be trusted at all, I think that nixon, and garfield are the only failed candidates to have achieved the position a second time.

But I don't think there is any history of a 1 term presidency, not being immediately followed by a 2 term presidency of a member of the other party.

Honestly? I could have stomached a hillary presidency, so that whoever is next on the 'Pub side can hold 2 terms.

But It's a gamble with McCain, and I will take it, ONLY because Obama, will do WAY too much damage.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 05:42 PM (ul7te)

I can't see any reason why Hillary would accept the VP offer.

Nor I.

This is a one term presidency

Big assumption is that he'll win, isn't it? American's aren't that foolish.

Posted by: Roy at August 18, 2008 05:42 PM (RBtUU)

63 It's Evan Bayh, according to a screenshot of a now-missing CNN story. I was skeptical, but A) The URL is in standard CNN form, and B) It was reported a bit back that ObamaBayh08.com was purchased and redirects to the DNC site.

Posted by: PolarBear at August 18, 2008 05:46 PM (qzcNU)

64 Wickedpinto - in regards to the one-term president followed by a president of the same party, I think maybe it was Andrew Johnson followed by U.S. Grant. (But then again, I don't think Johnson was a Republican.)

So you've got me there.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 05:47 PM (ubHgw)

"Big assumption is that he'll win, isn't it? American's aren't that foolish."

Americans elected Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton.

A number of whom were worse than Obama.

Posted by: MlR at August 18, 2008 05:48 PM (PLmsY)

66 PolarBear - this kind of thing has happened before with CNN - they draft a bunch of blurbs to cover every eventuality and sometimes a moron accidentally posts them online. I think it's happened with obituaries before.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 05:49 PM (ubHgw)

67 Chaz Krauthammer says Sam Nunn would be a good pick for the Chosen One. Lends the lightweight a ton of gravitas. Does for Osama Obama what Cheney did for Bush in 2000.
I say it that might be his best pick but it won't happen. Obama is such an empty suit he will look ridiculous next to Nunn. Same wasn't true of W, who often showed he had a pair.

Posted by: joe at August 18, 2008 05:49 PM (TOly9)

68 Jim62sch,

Usually I'd agree, but this wasn't a template story with "Obama picks (Enter Name Here)". It specifically says an aide accidentally sent out the pick, hitting "send" instead of "save".

Posted by: PolarBear at August 18, 2008 05:51 PM (qzcNU)

You think McCain is gonna win two?

I wasn't talking about one party. I was talking about one election.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 05:51 PM (ul7te)

70 Obamie needs to pick Robert C. Byrd. He overcomes McCain's age advantage by a half century and wins over the white racist Kluxers who don't like the idea that he has a funny name and, um, ah, he's black. Byrd also adds a whole new dimension of incoherence to an already incoherent candidate. The nutroots should love it.

Posted by: Reiver at August 18, 2008 05:51 PM (s7h/P)

71 Ah, Wickedpinto - Rutherford Hayes, a Republican, served one term (1877-1881) before being succeeded by James Garfield, also a Republican.

Rutherford Hayes - the President everyone forgets. Fucking useless bastard.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 05:53 PM (ubHgw)

72 If he picks Biden - I will spit in the face of the man who insists there's no god.

Posted by: AD at August 18, 2008 05:59 PM (8mGNb)

As ridiculous as it sounds,

It will be McCain, (R) and a Democrat to be named later, in 2012.

Obama Can't be trust for the next four, and Over the next four, the Dem's will be proved that they can't either.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 06:00 PM (ul7te)

74 PolarBear - ah, you're right, I should have read closer.

If Team McCain already knows that Obama's pick will not be a woman, they are right and it is better to wait until just after the Dem Convention to sabotage O's convention bounce. Then he can announce our Sarah as his running-mate and preempt all the media coverage. Schwing!

I have to presume that McCain has kidnapped a high-ranking Obama aide and is torturing the fuck out of him with all the tricks he learned the hard way in Hanoi to learn who Obama's pick will be. If not, he just lost all my respect - I expect a President who can get the job done.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 06:00 PM (ubHgw)

75 Wasn't it garfield who served one term, and then served his second, 8 years later?

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 06:02 PM (ul7te)

76 But still, one example, doesn't misjudge, my basic premise.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 06:02 PM (ul7te)

77 Didn't garfield also suffer a number of accusations of homosexuality?

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 06:04 PM (ul7te)

78 I thought Richardson would be the one. Tsk Tsk. Biden would be a great choice. There aren't many nationally known Ds that the press would laud and who would easily be overshadowed by Obama for rest of the year.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at August 18, 2008 06:08 PM (TPRbZ)

79 McCain's thinking about Huckabee, because he thought Mike said he would bring his base; actually he said he'd bring his bass. (badump-bum)

Posted by: notropis at August 18, 2008 06:11 PM (FvFgp)

BIDEN?!?!?

The Democratic option for the "Straight Talk Express?"

Thats like the "pro-life option of NARAL."

FUCK BIDEN!!!

People think biden is a loud mouth cuz he's tough.

HE's an IDIOT!!!

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 06:13 PM (ul7te)

81 Wickedpinto - no, Garfield was assassinated shortly after taking office and was succeeded by Chester Arthur. You're thinking of Grover Cleveland, who served a term as President, then a term as governor of New York, then another term as President. He was the 22nd and 24th President.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 06:18 PM (ubHgw)

THANK YOU JIM!!!

he was also treated, by modern "historians" as a gay man, because he was a bachelor.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 06:21 PM (ul7te)

83 Worldnet Daily reporting on a mysterious McCain-Palin website

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72717

Probly just a domain squatter, methinks.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 06:22 PM (ubHgw)

84 No, WP, you're thinking of James Buchanan.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 06:23 PM (ubHgw)

85 A McCain/Garfield or a McCain/Cleveland ticket would sell better than McCain/Huckabee. Hell, a McCain/Billy Mays ticket would be better.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 06:23 PM (AZGON)

Wasn't it garfield who broke the Union Rail and broke the strike?

I can't remember shit, I'm WAY behind my research, this is my first day back.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 06:24 PM (ul7te)

87 WP - no, that was the otherwisely forgettable Rutherford Hayes.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 18, 2008 06:26 PM (ubHgw)

THAT!!!!!!!!

Was a MAJOR act!!!

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 06:29 PM (ul7te)

89 It's hard to say who the Obama camp will pick since they're so retarded and out of touch. However, since they are running a cult of personality campaign, they need a VP who will extol Obama's "virtues" with abject devotion at all times, no matter how shameless and pathetic.

The only man in American politics who can possibly claim to be the king of sucking ass for TV time and the mere possibility of an increase in status goes by the name of Joe Biden.

That man can kiss like no other. I officially change my pool choice from Jimmy Carter's swollen prostate on Tuesday, noonish, to Joe Biden, whenever the hell Obama feels like it.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 06:38 PM (qAMnO)

90 However, since they are running a cult of personality campaign, they need a VP who will extol Obama's "virtues" with abject devotion at all times, no matter how shameless and pathetic. This is a good point. Whomever Obastard selects will be expected to slaver and support the flipflop of the day, as well as repudiate any possible previous views to the contrary of Obastard's current weathercock position on any given issue. Biden seems a good fit, right in between the nether cheeks.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 06:44 PM (AZGON)

91 One thing I'm sure of is that Biden is on a short list, and Obastard's henchmen are having contingency discussion about how to defuse Slow Joe's comment about Barry being a "clean" black man, if and when it comes up should The One choose Senator Hairplugs.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 06:50 PM (AZGON)

92 Yeah, it makes sense.

Ahhh... just want to correct one thing. When I wrote, "That man can kiss like no other" I really meant that he can kiss ass like no other, and I meant that in the metaphorical sense, of course.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 06:51 PM (qAMnO)

93 Although that Tim Kaine fellow showed quite an ability to commit to the rimjob with that little, "Thank you, Putin, for listening to ma man(!) Obama--and agreeing to cease fire and stuff" comment. That was pretty pathetic.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 07:03 PM (qAMnO)

94 One other thing Biden has in common with Übermessiah is his remarkable ability to bloviate and expand with geologically scaled verbosity upon absolutely nothing. I offer in evidence any Biden performance in a Senate hearing of any kind. Two peas in a gas-filled pod, as it were.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 07:05 PM (AZGON)

95 Yes, Kaine is quite the little catamite, no?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 07:07 PM (AZGON)

96 It's too good, though - I can't believe he'd actually do it.

Posted by: AD at August 18, 2008 07:07 PM (8mGNb)

97 It's too good, though - I can't believe he'd actually do it.

Err, I meant that about Biden.

Posted by: AD at August 18, 2008 07:08 PM (8mGNb)

98 It's too good, though - I can't believe he'd actually do it. Um, maybe Kaine is more his type... unless Barry favors some sort of May/December romance. Then it's nuthin' but Biden and The Love Boat, all the way to the White House Wharf, Cap'n Stubing!

Posted by: George Orwell at August 18, 2008 07:12 PM (AZGON)

99 As an aside, James Garfield was not homosexual., he carried on a multiple year affair with one of his best friend's wife in Michigan. She also happened to be Garfields cousin.

Posted by: tonynoboloney at August 18, 2008 07:23 PM (gB92l)

100 Freepers screenshotted a CNN story that was pulled that said an Obama aide accidently sent out an email announcing Evan Bayh as the Veep pick http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2064081/posts

Posted by: topsecretk9 at August 18, 2008 07:31 PM (2r2Mg)

101

I predict Barry picks Tim Kaine, who is the only man who likes Obama nearly as much as Obama likes Obama. I was leaning toward Sam Nunn based upon the B.'s answer to his "three wise men" question in Saddlebrook... but it's true. Sam Nunn would accentuate Barack's empty suit status. So I say, Kaine.

Either that, or he'll decide by an American Idol-style text message voting scheme.

And while we're on the topic, it won't be Sarah Palin who John S. McCain picks as his cholostomy bag-caddy- it'll be Charlie Crist. I've believed it since January 29th when Crist threw the Florida primary to his pal McCain, and I will continue to believe it until it becomes a matter of fact rather than a matter of belief.

Best regards

Posted by: ATNorth at August 18, 2008 07:31 PM (VAF/F)

102 click on the "AIDE'S MISTAKE REVEALS OBAMA'S VP PICK EARLY (PULLED FROM CNN)" link

Posted by: topsecretk9 at August 18, 2008 07:32 PM (2r2Mg)

103 Wait, I forgot John Edwards. He'll make Obama look both principled and sincere by comparison.

Posted by: ATNorth at August 18, 2008 07:32 PM (VAF/F)

104

See, what happened was, when McCain was in the hospital for his "cancer" he actually was at a secret military base in Virginia where they do psyops getting programmed by Karl Rove so that he could cheat and lie and hate Obama and call him a racist.

Since he was programmed by the Vietcong, he had no problem being reprogrammed to do this.

Man, I need to write me a book on this!

Posted by: Rev Dr The Man E Buzz Fucking Fuck Off Fuck at August 18, 2008 07:34 PM (tN24S)

105 and FTR I not vouching for that freeper link, just saying it's out there.

Posted by: topsecretk9 at August 18, 2008 07:36 PM (2r2Mg)

106 nice save?

Posted by: ATNorth at August 18, 2008 07:36 PM (VAF/F)

107

Sebelius?

We need a composer-in-chief, I think. Maybe Barry is trying to look even more like he is a worldly NPR type.

Good on Barry, I'll buy a tank of biodiesel for his Volvo.

Posted by: Rev Dr The Man E Buzz Fucking Fuck Off Fuck at August 18, 2008 07:39 PM (tN24S)

108 Freepers screenshotted a CNN story that was pulled that said an Obama aide accidently sent out an email announcing Evan Bayh as the Veep pick.

Dude, it's called misinformation. It's used to lower expectations and direct CW.

I mean seriously, someone is going to 'practice' a text message.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 07:43 PM (qAMnO)

109 The Dems won't put a black man and a woman on the same ticket.

And Bayh is out, too. A two-senator ticket is a loser. Obama will pick a governor, or ex-governor; he needs administrative experience on the ticket.

Posted by: Bart: at August 18, 2008 07:45 PM (bsorf)

110 runninrebel Actually I agree with what you say and could be a doctored screenshot too.

Posted by: topsecretk9 at August 18, 2008 07:46 PM (2r2Mg)

111 Yeah, it's chaff. Disregard. It could be a creation of either side for many reasons.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 18, 2008 07:57 PM (qAMnO)

112 I like the idea of Sarah Palin for several reasons, but how close is she to the Stevens scandal?

Posted by: rabidfox at August 18, 2008 08:06 PM (AIVrP)

113 They may be further vetting Bayh somehow, but this just further makes Obama's camp look like a bunch of kids. The whole SMS idea is just unprofessional. Demeaning. This isn't a fucking game. There are men and women guarding a wall right now who want a presidential leader. This isn't American Idol.

Bayh is a nice guy, not that I agree with him. I am guessing it's got to be Hillary. Obama probably wants this shock to be superstar-awesome-neato in order to garner lots of hopey changey press. The less optimistic Obama is, the more he realizes he needs Clinton. And he can't be very optimistic right now.

Posted by: ghy at August 18, 2008 08:09 PM (8jYMc)

114

All a head fake. It's Hillary.

Great to see you back, WP!

Posted by: Paulitics at August 18, 2008 08:12 PM (BOyTY)

115 What about that dyke liberal governor in Arizona?

Posted by: Bart: at August 18, 2008 08:19 PM (bsorf)

116 I didn't know Rosetta was governor of Arizona. When did that happen?

Posted by: Paulitics at August 18, 2008 08:24 PM (BOyTY)

117 No, the other bull-dyke.

Posted by: Bart: at August 18, 2008 08:30 PM (bsorf)

118 Joanie PJM?

Posted by: Paulitics at August 18, 2008 08:35 PM (BOyTY)

119 lol, poor Joanie

Posted by: Bart: at August 18, 2008 08:37 PM (bsorf)

120 Paulitics, are you in the football pool?

Posted by: Bart: at August 18, 2008 08:37 PM (bsorf)

121 I'm in the process of scamming tickets to McCain's "unveiling" Aug 29 in good ol' lil' Detroit itself, Dayton OH. Mav is going with Kasich, or I'll shave Laura's hump for free. Obama? Sebelius. Why? He needs a broad to try to salve the wounds of the carpet munching, "I am woman hear me roar" leftys. Old white guys won't do it for ol' hopey-changey. Barry will piss off the PUMA types, but they're lost anyway. He'll try to appease the larger majority of bitches, because his base instinct is to appease. He'll fail fucking miserably too.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 18, 2008 08:38 PM (TY/hK)

122 You mean this bull-dyke?

http://azgovernor.gov/BioJN.asp

Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at August 18, 2008 08:40 PM (vYc9j)

123 Kasich?

wow really? That's the first time I've heard his name mentioned.

hmmmmmm, not bad

Posted by: Bart: at August 18, 2008 08:41 PM (bsorf)

124 Naw, haven't had time to sign up. Send me details and I will.

Posted by: Paulitics at August 18, 2008 08:41 PM (BOyTY)

125 Sebelius?

We need a composer-in-chief, I think.

That was so nuanced that you must be a liberal troll. TROLL!!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 18, 2008 08:41 PM (TY/hK)

126 Can't be Sebelius. She looks so unlike those guys on the dollar bills that she might as well be black.

Posted by: Mangas Colorados at August 18, 2008 08:42 PM (x8LhY)

127 You know who would be a great VP? Larry Kudlow.

He'd make an awesome Treasury Sec or Fed chairman.

Yes. Larry fucking Kudlow from CNBC.

Posted by: Bart: at August 18, 2008 08:42 PM (bsorf)

128 Send me details and I will.

Too late. They're already filled.

Posted by: Bart: at August 18, 2008 08:43 PM (bsorf)

129 Doesn't Sebelius look like George Washington? Maybe a little?

Posted by: Bart: at August 18, 2008 08:44 PM (bsorf)

130

Seems to me that the 1000-lb gorilla in the room is still Hillary. Like it or not, an Obama-Clingon ticket would make a lot of people happy.

I just hope her ego and his ego are too big to be on the same stage, let alone the same ticket.

He's worried about the Midwest- Sebelius makes some sense. That said, that's a whole lot of upheaval on one ticket. That makes Kaine make more sense- he wants Virginia bad, and Kaine will likely yield him Virginia.

We'll see...

And good to have you around, even on a limited basis, Wicked... the world's more interesting with you in it.

tmi3rd

Posted by: tmi3rd at August 18, 2008 08:45 PM (Gz0u5)

131 Then why'd you ask me? Fucking loser. And here I was going to go easy on you this season.

Posted by: Paulitics at August 18, 2008 08:46 PM (BOyTY)

132 Kasich?

wow really? That's the first time I've heard his name mentioned.

He's perfect. Attack dog VP nom. Popular in OH. (He's been floated as the gubernatorial candidate against Gov. Strickland. I'm a Repub, and I'll take Strickland over that fucking RINO Taft any day). Nationally known. Conservative. Mouth that can spew a good one-liner at the one Veep debate. And he wouldn't make a bad Prez.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 18, 2008 08:47 PM (TY/hK)

133

Joanie PJM?

I'm lipstick you bastards, not bulldyke.

Posted by: pajama momma at August 18, 2008 08:53 PM (f3xJa)

134 I've seen bulldykes with lipstick on. Just not on their lips.

Posted by: Paulitics at August 18, 2008 08:57 PM (BOyTY)

135 Posted by: wickedpinto at August 18, 2008 04:16 PM (ul7te)

That's the WP we've missed this year: half policy wonk, half Arkham Asylum lifer.

Welcome back, big guy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 18, 2008 09:06 PM (ItxWA)

136 I'm lipstick you bastards, not bulldyke.

Your views intrigue me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter 1-900 talkline.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 18, 2008 09:06 PM (TY/hK)

137

Hillary? Michelle would have a screaming fit if he picked Hillary. There would be dishes flying every which way. Knives, ashtrays, books...

She would be slicing open sofas and chairs. It would be World Wars IV, V and VI.

Posted by: Dogstar at August 18, 2008 09:07 PM (6AcsH)

138 Oh fuck it. I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 18, 2008 09:07 PM (TY/hK)

139

Obama/Sebelius '08

Because We Have Funny Names™

Posted by: Jones at August 18, 2008 09:10 PM (VkNlv)

140 The fact that so many conservatives WANT it to be Biden suggests to me that the geniuses at Team Obama won't pick Biden. Or maybe they're not geniuses after all.

Posted by: Nordbuster at August 18, 2008 09:11 PM (ynrfB)

141 # 22 wickedpinto:

What kind of work do you do? We might be hiring at my job soon.

Posted by: CornFedBeauty at August 18, 2008 09:22 PM (Z07/i)

142

What kind of work do you do? We might be hiring at my job soon.

Can't wait for this conversation. I'll bring the popcorn.

Posted by: Paulitics at August 18, 2008 10:00 PM (BOyTY)

143 Doesn't matter to me who McCain picks (MUST BE PALIN), they are all very good (NO FREAKIN' WAY, ONLY PALIN), so I would be just as excited by all of them (AS LONG AS THEY SPELLED THEIR NAME P-A-L-I-N).

Posted by: Hongqi at August 18, 2008 10:08 PM (+WuMm)

144 Please, please, please let it be Biden. That smug, arrogant bastard will torpedo Barry's campaign so fast it will make your head spin.

Posted by: Steve L. at August 19, 2008 02:53 AM (o0YD+)

145 I hope he picks Biden because he is a perfect match for the banality and vapidness of Obama. But I'm not sure it would be possible to fit two guys with oversized opinions of themselves in the same room, so, if it's Biden, the announcement will be outdoors.

Posted by: Neo at August 19, 2008 05:02 AM (Yozw9)

146 and preempt all the media coverage

Any plan that intends this as the result won't work for a Republican.

When it counts, all media coverage of Republicans is negative.

McCain's VP will be Romney.

Why the hell should I care who Obama will pick to run as his VP? They're all crooks.

Posted by: fredras at August 19, 2008 05:33 AM (ZHsEK)

147 As stated before, Obama's using the internet VP announcement to survey reception, and then refute his news leaks as hoaxes perpetrated by the vast right wing conspiracy if the desired response is missing.

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