July 17, 2008

More AP Stupid
— Ace

"Although Republican presidential candidate John McCain has called Social Security "a disgrace," he still cashes his own retirement check every month."

Ironic, huh? The Media Blog notes that although Barack Obama calls Washington broken, he still cashes his Senate check every month.

It should also be noted that John McCain isn't calling Social Security payments a disgrace, but rather the shaky actuarially doomed financing of the scheme. True enough, if every senior simply stopped cashing his checks and remitted them back to the government, the system would be immediately flush with cash and perfectly solvent. Is the AP seriously suggesting that that's what McCain has himself suggested, or that any senior should do so?

In further irony, to quote Colonel Jessup, the AP rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom our military provides and then questions the manner in which they provide it.

Perhaps, to have a perfectly "clean" and consistent position without any hypocrisy whatsoever, every reporter or editor who works for the AP ought to leave the country they despise so much.

Posted by: Ace at 01:00 PM | Comments (35)
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1 Ace...I really doubt if John McCain cashes a Social Security check.  He's pretty much been a public employee (military/Congress) his entire career and they have their own retirement systems.

Posted by: LJV at July 17, 2008 01:07 PM (PEEsZ)

2

Epic fail, commenter #1

Military retirees paid payroll taxes (just like everybody else) and receive Social Security when they hit 62 or 65 or whatever (just like everybody else).

Congressmen? I don't know, but I do know that their in-house retirement system in ludicrously lucrative.

 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at July 17, 2008 01:10 PM (wgLRl)

3 I am but a simple man, of modest means.

Posted by: Charlie Rangel at July 17, 2008 01:35 PM (zAvxs)

4

I do think that the AP has the patent on "stupid".  But that's what happens when you go get your brain removed, put a colostomy bag in the new space in your skull and hook it up appropriately.  S#%t for brains is a descriptor for these clowns.

And hey, the AP has probably told us that Obama is going to solve all these problems single handed.  Maybe Obama could give up his future Social Security benefits and singlehandedly solve the problem.  Lets "Hope for Change"

Posted by: Michael J. Myers at July 17, 2008 01:38 PM (LZ3cP)

5 Balrog-

Epic fail, commenter #1-

Ask him about the two largest groups that don't pay "Socialist (In)Security"...

See also: "City/State Gov't Employees" and "Teachers".

Posted by: fletch at July 17, 2008 02:17 PM (2Z9xN)

6 Colonel Jessup was found guilty and rightly so. He ordered an illegal action that led to a man's death. THAT was not necessary to provide an umbrella of security. Colonel Jessup can be over relied upon in inappropriate ways to argue one's point. That's all I'm saying.

Posted by: Craig R. Harmon at July 17, 2008 02:25 PM (q4sdC)

7 I believe that when McCain's income for his taxes was announced earlier this year it did list his social security.

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2008 02:38 PM (FL/94)

8 Liberals decry making money and advocate paying taxes, and are the biggest money-grubbing tax cheats around.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at July 17, 2008 02:44 PM (oqNyI)

9

Ahhh, opinion disgusied as news.

Sort of truthy, in a left wing facist sort of way.

Posted by: Rev Dr The Man E Buzz BigNuts at July 17, 2008 05:14 PM (sf4Oe)

10

Not to defend the AP, but I think what they may be saying is that John McCain is rich. He and his family are multi-millionaires.

And yet, he is cashing a government check and spending my tax dollars.

There's no requirement that he do so.

He could, if he wanted to, not cash it, and thus, do something positive about the Social Security problem. Nothing prevents this except John McCain.

Instead, he cashes the government check, originally meant to provide welfare for individuals too old to work any longer. The program is now the equivalent of welfare for millionaires like John McCain.

Maybe that's what they meant.

 

Posted by: notanapdefender at July 17, 2008 05:28 PM (Ncq2X)

11 Even though Edward Kennedy says he fights for poor people, he still has about a billion $$ in cash and assets and supports every tax that has been imposed while he himself enjoys the many tax-shelters afforded to the extremely wealthy.

See, AP, we can play this game, too.

Posted by: Bart at July 17, 2008 05:34 PM (uAyZP)

12 And in other news, Michelle Obama has called her country nasty and mean-spirited, but ironically she still manages to sleep soundly in her bed because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do her harm.

Posted by: sherlock at July 17, 2008 05:35 PM (N7uu0)

13 What the fuck else is he supposed to do with his check?

For all we know, McCain gives it away to charity. In fact, McCain and his wife give away more to charity than most of us make in a yea, unlike the Obamas.

Posted by: Bart at July 17, 2008 05:38 PM (uAyZP)

14 I am an economist by training, and a few months ago our gubmint sent me a check for about $1500.00 cuz of my wife and kids, and the clinging to bibles and guns and such.  It was the dumbest, most transparent, worthless fucking gesture for "stimulating the economy" that I can think of.  They are bottom dwellers, intellectually speaking, and that was a massive of waste of my son's tax dollars that he won't start paying 15 years from now.

I cashed the fucking check.  Surprise.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 17, 2008 05:52 PM (C3oBM)

15 Do away with congressional and presidential retirements. Those asshats would fix SSI if they had to rely on it too.

Posted by: Kowboy at July 17, 2008 05:53 PM (1TMmT)

16 You know the odd thing is the folk over at the media blog at the NRO noticed this, but missed the whole AP embedded with murderers thing.  Is that sort of telling?  Or is it just an understandable over sight?

Posted by: just saying at July 17, 2008 05:56 PM (1g+FW)

17 No más, Ace. No más.

The number of weapons grade stupidity stories you've accumulated today is numbing my brain. Not necessarily a tall order, but still.

The Obama speech generator was a nice reprieve, I'll admit; but Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ! The AGW and AP reportage you've quoted is sucking the life out of me as if I was a 1.5-volt battery hooked up to Al Gore's reanimation machine set to "Bloviating Freak Shooting Sparks Out the Ass." How are you still standing after finding all these gems?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 17, 2008 06:42 PM (sI5Ho)

18

I think our tax system is a disgrace, yet I still pay my taxes.  Maybe I should stop so the AP will feel better about me.

 

Posted by: tim at July 17, 2008 06:57 PM (AdvE1)

19

DUDE!

"the system would be immediately flush with cash and perfectly solvent"

WRONG!

It is NOW flush with cash and perfectly solvent!  The Social Security tax brings in beaucoop bucks way over and above the current outgo.  The extra money goes into the general Treasury fund to get spent TODAY. 

The worry is someday the people drawing out will exceed the money coming in so that the surplus will disappear leaving less money to for the politicians to spend.  Then they will have to both raise taxes and cut benefits.

Posted by: Whitehall at July 17, 2008 08:52 PM (FCAIs)

20

SS was sold as an involuntary retirement plan, not welfare.  McCain paid for it and he is due the benefits.  The AP's position, as I understand it, is that theft is OK, as long as you steal from the right people. 

I guess that means it's OK to steal their stuff, bloggers.  They have a big enough income to qualify.

Posted by: MarkD at July 18, 2008 06:13 AM (MMy4A)

21 Why wouldn't he cash his check? It is, after all, his money taken from him by the government and is now just giving it back.  

Posted by: JamesT at July 18, 2008 07:11 AM (cTHUy)

22 AP just wanted to make sure we all knew McCain is old.

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 18, 2008 07:58 AM (a00go)

23 Ask him about the two largest groups that don't pay "Socialist (In)Security"...

See also: "City/State Gov't Employees" and "Teachers".

Umm, I'm a state employee, so why do I have the following withholdings on my paystub?

Fed MED/EE
Fed OASDI/EE

According to your wisdom, I'm being ripped off...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at July 18, 2008 08:02 AM (1hM1d)

24

Well I for one do not mind all that much that, for example, Bill Gates will soon be getting SocSec. Until I was disabled a few years ago, he and I were paying in the same money, why should he not get back the same money? Yeah, I need it a lot more, boo-hoo. And yeah, if I live another thirty years (unlikely) I'll "get more out than put in" - but probably not as much as if I had "put in" that money to an annuity policy (I actually did buy two, but long gone with my illnesses) that paid interest.  

 

SS insolvent? Yep, but only partly because there are more of us dinosaurs still roaming the Earth. To extend an earlier comment, I can recall having discussions with older realtives when I was a teen in the Fifties about SocSec funds going from the non-existent "lockbox" into the general fund pool. Not even replaced with T-bills or bonds, just disappeared.

Posted by: teqjack at July 18, 2008 10:32 AM (CEphM)

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