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September 01, 2008

Just a Comparison
— Ace

Sarah Palin:

"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support," the Palins said.

Barack Obama:

"Look, I got two daughters 9 years old and 6 years old," he said. "I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."

I don't think we have to fear similar surprise bundles of joy from the other side of the ticket. They've got that taken care of.

Thanks to DrewM.

Posted by: Ace at 08:49 AM | Comments (87)
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1 You aren't supposed to talk about Obama's children.

Posted by: mesablue at September 01, 2008 08:50 AM (5yNaE)

2 This is going to hurt Palin. Social conservatives will not be too keen on a pregnant teenager...

Posted by: h2u at September 01, 2008 08:51 AM (gp/if)

3 h2u,

Not so much. Social cons are not the monsters that leftards make them out to be.

Posted by: mesablue at September 01, 2008 08:53 AM (5yNaE)

4 Roto Reuters strikes a new low in MSM journalism:

ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Fuckin' lowlifes.

Posted by: Reiver at September 01, 2008 08:54 AM (s7h/P)

5 Drew? How does this post help Michelle Obama's children?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 01, 2008 08:55 AM (dgAmf)

There is a full on civil war being waged at the DU right now. Dozens of DU posters with 1000+ posts are warning their fellow inmates to lay off this. But the majority are saying they plan to tear her apart.

I can't beleive it but it looks like McCain may be picking up votes on the DU by the minute.

Posted by: Tyrtle at September 01, 2008 08:56 AM (BRWtH)

7 No it won't hurt Palin at all. Not among red-state voters voters. Fundies have teenagers too. Matter of fact they have more teenagers than blue state coffee-house folk. And the are more likely to marry young. The only way Republicans can hurt themselves here is if they don't support Palin. If they do they will gain support not only in this election, but in elections in the future. Every woman with a teen age daughter is watching what the Republicans do here. Let the Dems scream and holler. Just relax.

Posted by: The Obvious at September 01, 2008 08:57 AM (1g+FW)

8 The Bristol Palin news high lights another womans issue: teen pregnancy, how it is a woman deals with the event, support of the family, etc.

Sarah Palin is dealing with the event. I can only hope that this will make her a more sympathetic figure to woman voters. The Obamatons, themselves, have been shown to be almost universally misogynist.

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at September 01, 2008 09:02 AM (nuuDA)

9 Barack Obama is a sick fuck.

Too bad he had a pro-life (Muslim) father who didn't want him aborted.

Posted by: Cunningloaf at September 01, 2008 09:02 AM (8B1fc)

Oh, we've already had the concern troll peddling the "social conservatives are won't vote for Palin" talking point.

Happy Days.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 01, 2008 09:04 AM (wgLRl)

And let the Dems pull their high holier than thou act -- the Palins are a regular family that stuff has happened to and they go on and deal with it. There has been such awful, awful things being said and -- to me -- I think Obama should have come out and said to knock it off. But instead, where is he? He and Michelle are smirking in the corner somewhere? The smugness of Democrats never ceases to amaze me.

Posted by: Kay at September 01, 2008 09:04 AM (jQJYv)

12 I don't always see eye-to-eye with the GOP (or anyone else, come to think of it) but this is where we do stand together.

On the one side, "unconditional love and support".

On the other side, "punished with a baby".

I know which side is mine.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 01, 2008 09:05 AM (2yngH)

13 This is going to hurt Palin. Social conservatives will not be too keen on a pregnant teenager...

h2u,

"Social conservatives" may not be keen on teen pregnancy but I'm pretty sure they are 100% morally opposed t,o you know, aborting those babies. I'm thinking it's a wash at worse with the vast majority of voters and net plus with some.

Of course, it's a 17 year old girl and her families business not our, so hopefully after today we won't be discussing it much.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 01, 2008 09:06 AM (hlYel)

14 "Barack Obama is a sick fuck.

Too bad he had a pro-life (Muslim) father who didn't want him aborted."

Really?

Posted by: bleh at September 01, 2008 09:06 AM (GNCy6)

15 The Obvious (post #7) is right on. Everyone just take a deep breath and calm down. Fact is this is a private matter that unfortunately had no other way of coming out. I mean, what was Palin supposed to say at her acceptance speech - "Thank you, I accept the nomination to be vice president. Oh, and by the way, my 17 year old daughter is pregnant?" I think (I PRAY) the left wing Nazis will go way way overboard on this and drive sympathy to the Palins. Lousy timing, but let's stay focused. After all, who do you vote for, the ticket who has a child of a candidate with an out of wedlock pregnancy or the candidate who is in the pocket of Marxists, terrorists and bigots? Choose wisely.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 01, 2008 09:07 AM (zpaDL)

16 Ixnay onyay Obamasyay amilfay.

Posted by: joh at September 01, 2008 09:08 AM (1DPb/)

17 Kay, why would you expect Obama to say anything if the rightwingers act like kos kids?

Posted by: bleh at September 01, 2008 09:09 AM (GNCy6)

My sister got pregnant in high school and I have a number of cousins back in the Dakotas whose first kid was born a couple of months after the mom and dad were married. Almost everyone knows someone who got pregnant in high school and what matters is how it is handled.

Now if it turns out the Palin's were very preachy about abstinance and holier than thou, then yes, that would be a problem.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at September 01, 2008 09:09 AM (C2//T)

19 This is going to hurt Palin. Social conservatives will not be too keen on a pregnant teenager...

Bullshit. I'm a social conservative, Christian fundie type, and I still wake up in the middle of the night thinking I hear some kid knocking on the door asking "Are you my daddy?"

Youth is truly wasted on the young. Bristol got knocked up. Not the best thing to happen to a 17 year old, but she's not killing the baby, and the fact that Todd Palin let this Levi kid live instead of hiring him on his boat and making the "man overboard" call is testament that he's probably a fine young man, himself, and going to live up to his responsibilities as husband and father. Kids thrust into adulthood are sometimes amazing.

This is what we call LIFE. It's what the left calls POLITICS. Fundamental fucking difference. God bless little Philbert, or whatever the hell his/her name is.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 01, 2008 09:10 AM (soTgQ)

20 Bristol Palin for President in 2036. She'll kick Chelsea's ass.

Posted by: Dave J at September 01, 2008 09:10 AM (qsGH+)

21 Well, now we have to get Sarah Palin elected Vice President. She's got a growing family to support and needs the extra money. Anyone know how much more the VP makes than she's getting now as Governor?

Congratulations, Palin family. May Bristol have a beautiful wedding and a complication free birth.

Posted by: fredras at September 01, 2008 09:12 AM (1OMSg)

22 I can't believe it. Every time you think this campaign can't get any crazier, they escalate!

Posted by: Arthur at September 01, 2008 09:12 AM (nKJNN)

Can we discuss the fact that Gov Jindal can talk for 15 minutes straight without taking a breath? That poor sign-language translator's arms are going to fall off.

Posted by: Bart at September 01, 2008 09:12 AM (eGRG+)

24 I'm flabbergasted. Did OB really say, "PUNISHED with a baby?" I missed that somehow...but now have withdrawn the last bit of good will for him I've been harboring. That's obscene, just obscene.

I don't think news of the pregnancy will hurt Palin with social cons. We have kids, some of them have sex when they're teens, some of them get pregnant. Some of them--probably more than I'd like to think about--have abortions. The point is that the Palins are doing the right thing, all of them--the teenager for not aborting the baby, and for marrying the dad, and the adults, for supporting her.

Posted by: dulce at September 01, 2008 09:16 AM (a6rJl)

25 She'll kick Chelsea's ass.

No one kicks the ass of life

Posted by: toby hussein 928 at September 01, 2008 09:18 AM (evdj2)

26 Why would even the demented DU types want to tear poor Bristol apart? I thought they'd be all wet, clammy sympathy for the poor pregnant girl.

Oh wait, she's not getting an abortion. Maybe that's what's pissing them off.

Posted by: Annalucia at September 01, 2008 09:19 AM (OMiLl)

27 For crying out loud, teen pregnancy is something that has come up several times in my own family, and I'm sure I'm not alone here. The difference is that all of the teen pregnancies I know of in my family (I can think of 5 off the top of my head), my relative kept her baby. I can guess the talking points. Let me deal with the most obvious: #1 - If Bristol didn't have such a Christianist mom she would have used birth control and this wouldn't have happened. Response: I wouldn't make any assumptions (and it's none of your biz anyhow). You can be on Norplant and get pregnant (one of the pregnancies detailed above came about in such a fashion). #2 - It's irresponsible to have such a young woman marrying. What about her future? What about the children? DEAR GOD, WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?! Response: My grandmothers both got married at age 18, and had long marriages. Looks like the Palins had gotten married young, too. My own parents got married at 20. It's more unnatural to be marrying for the first time in your 30s (for a woman at least) than in your teens. Bristol obviously has a supportive family so what's the problem? Indeed, it may be more irresponsible to tell your daughters to pursue a career during their peak fertility and attractiveness, and then find out that they are having trouble finding a suitable husband and well-nigh impossible to get pregnant. #3 - Only if her mother was a Real Woman (TM), she would have had the proper supervision. Mrs. Palin got uppity and spent too much time away from the kiddies and thus her daughter had the opportunity to get knocked up. Response: Good point. I plan on being a royal pain in the ass to my own kids when they get to teenhood (mainly as an incentive for them to move out when they turn 18. Returning to the nest will be a very unpleasant experience if they try to do it as a permanency.) But guess what? It's none of my business. Some people give their kids what I think is too much autonomy...but they're not my kids. Anyway, whatever. It's minorly interesting, but pretty irrelevant. If we could deal with Presidents who personally were alcoholics and drug-users, I think I can deal with a VP with a pregnant teen daughter.

Posted by: meep at September 01, 2008 09:20 AM (7uTCa)

28 Didn't Obama's mom have him when she was 18? Make sure everyone remembers that.

Posted by: jmchez at September 01, 2008 09:23 AM (dqDWv)

29 Forgot to mention in my earlier - author Francis Schaeffer was a husband and father at 18, having knocked up his girlfriend. (Not shy about it either: he mentions it in ``Keeping Faith,'' the book he co-wrote with his youngest son.)

That was almost 40 years ago. Still married - parents of 3 - grandparents. Everything lookin' good, it seems. That's what happens when you have supportive families like the Schaeffers.

Posted by: Annalucia at September 01, 2008 09:23 AM (OMiLl)

30 Social conservatives are 100% keen on personal responsibility.

Bristol is stepping up and taking responsibility.

Posted by: mpur at September 01, 2008 09:24 AM (30oKN)

31 This comparison reflects very well on Sarah Palin.

And Bristol Palin. She did the right thing.

One could argue about whether she should have had sex before marriage. I have no problem with it personally, but then I'm not a Christian. I think sex is a natural and good thing, not just for the pleasure, but also for the result.

In choosing life and the responsibilities of motherhood, young Bristol Palin demonstrates more character than the majority of the Democratic Party and a minority of the Republican Party right off the bat.

Independents too, but I couldn't figure out how to work that in rhetorically.

Posted by: Christoph at September 01, 2008 09:26 AM (hawOV)

Congratulations on the upcoming addition to the Awesome Palin family. If mom is any indication, they ought to have a billion offspring.

But does anyone buy the line that they made the announcement now to silence lefty bloggers? That just doesn't track for me.

Best Regards

Posted by: ATNorth at September 01, 2008 09:26 AM (VAF/F)

33 Two things:

Bristol's fiance must have needed balls like a bowling alley to talk to Todd. Talk about manning up....

The Dims are gonna run with this like they did Cheney's lesbian daughter and again prove themselves to be the graceless, hateful, small minded, bigoted pricks they are. They just really don't understand conservatives or Christians or any other sort of ordinary American and are going to, again, run against their own projection of who they think we are.

Posted by: Ronsonic at September 01, 2008 09:26 AM (ywSvi)

34 According to the history, Obama's mother was 3 months pregnant when she married his father.

Perhaps I should screenshot that article before it gets scrubbed....

Posted by: mpur at September 01, 2008 09:27 AM (30oKN)

35 Oh, and she was only 18 when Obama Jr was born...

Posted by: mpur at September 01, 2008 09:27 AM (30oKN)

36 "Did OB really say, "PUNISHED with a baby?"

You can watch it here, dulce.

Posted by: Christoph at September 01, 2008 09:29 AM (hawOV)

37 This is NOT a negative for Sarah Palin. She didn't put a chastity belt on her daughter; she didn't lock her in her room until marriage and she didn't throw a burka over her either. What she and her husband did do (from all appearances) is treat their daughter with unconditional love and respect. Also, and this is fucking important, John McCain treated the Palin's and their daughter with complete respect, by acknowledging at the outset that the young girl's pregnancy has absolutely no bearing on Sarah Palin's qualifications to be Vice President.

I am totally impressed with the Palin family and how they are dealing with all of this. HERE is a fucking American family we can relate to and be proud of. HERE is how real human beings who put family before politics act. HERE are people I would want to have a beer with. HERE is a woman who I would trust to make decisions about the lives and deaths of her fellow Americans.

And, oh yeah. John McCain, you fucking rocked on this one!

Posted by: Z as in Jersey at September 01, 2008 09:32 AM (kZT4X)

38 "This is going to hurt Palin. Social conservatives will not be too keen on a pregnant teenager..." I wasn't aware that the 17 year old was running for VP.

Posted by: GarandFan at September 01, 2008 09:37 AM (eJ32B)

39 I am totally impressed with the Palin family and how they are dealing with all of this. HERE is a fucking American family we can relate to and be proud of. HERE is how real human beings who put family before politics act. HERE are people I would want to have a beer with. HERE is a woman who I would trust to make decisions about the lives and deaths of her fellow Americans.

And, oh yeah. John McCain, you fucking rocked on this one!

I love it when elemental truths are so eloquently expressed. Well said.

Posted by: Reiver at September 01, 2008 09:41 AM (s7h/P)

40 That's it, there's absolutely no way the Christianist Rethug strawman in my head is going to vote for McCain now.

Posted by: Lefty Hussein McMoonbat at September 01, 2008 09:44 AM (2jQGY)

41 Speaking of shotgun weddings, let's not forget that Barack Obama's mother was an 18 and unmarried when she got pregnant with the Messiah.

This fact should be brought up every time a lefty mentions Bristol in a negative way.

Posted by: DelD at September 01, 2008 09:45 AM (hQebA)

42 Holy crap:

"I know, right? I'm having this weird reaction to her, the more I hear. Even the ethical crap she's under investigation for - she got her sister-in-law's abusive ex off the state payroll. It's not that I "like" her, or her policies... but the fact that she doesn't fit in any perfect little box makes her an intriguing intellectual curiosity. I don't find myself disliking her, at least. (And, yes, it's discomfiting. I feel all weird. But then, this entire campaign season has turned my political world all topsy-turvy. I don't know up from down or left from right anymore. Sheesh.)"

This is a quote from the comments at a hard-core feminist site. Sarah Palin is officially *fucking huge*. You have no idea how much sympathy for her is being generated out there.

Posted by: morbo at September 01, 2008 09:50 AM (DDKPv)

43 So will this make Palin a VPILF, MILF, and a GILF?

Posted by: brak at September 01, 2008 09:51 AM (OLiI6)

44 Dobson supporting Palin and family.

So much for the thinking that social cons would bail.

Posted by: mesablue at September 01, 2008 09:51 AM (5yNaE)

45 Well, I would just like to point out that none of my children or grandchildren are currently knocked up out of wedlock, unlike my respected opponent.

Not that there's anyting wrong with that, of course. I'm just sayin'...

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 01, 2008 09:54 AM (EW49d)

46 should be brought up every time a lefty mentions Bristol in a negative way

I completely disagree. Now is the time for name calling of the cock sucking leftist scum assholes, not anyone else.

Should leftist scum be one word?

Posted by: fredras at September 01, 2008 09:54 AM (1OMSg)

It turns out Sarah Palin's husband was arrested for DUI 22 years ago as well. Which naturally disqualifies her for service as Veep, but assuming there's a dead female involved opens the door for him to become our next long-time senator from Massachusetts...

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 01, 2008 09:54 AM (4ZOxD)

48 The Left just really doesn't get it. They honest-to-God think that Christians live in a 1600s, Puritan society where we burn heathens at the stake and throw women in the stocks for unchastity. They think of us in stereotypes. They have zero concept of Christian love or forgiveness. What do they really think we're going to do, sew a scarlet letter to Bristol Palin's clothes?

These things happen. I'm a long way from being a parent of a teenage girl but I would hesitate to judge Sarah Palin harshly. Kids are people, not automatons. You do your dead-level best to instill your values and hope and pray that they get it. If they make a bad decision, you teach them how to take responsibility for the consequences instead of running away. Considering that Bristol is keeping the baby (and making sure the baby has a real father who is married to Mom and not just a sperm donor), I'd say Sarah Palin did a pretty damn good job of that.

Posted by: Tina at September 01, 2008 09:58 AM (7sVL1)

49 I think this will work in her favor. Teenage pregnancy can happen in any family; American families will be able to relate to Sarah and her family.

Posted by: Melissjane at September 01, 2008 10:01 AM (NAp3T)

Also at mesablue's link, Obama says, "Back the fuck off, muthafuckas."

Seriously.

na'rly

Posted by: Bart at September 01, 2008 10:02 AM (eGRG+)

51
"Speaking of shotgun weddings, let's not forget that Barack Obama's mother was an 18 and unmarried when she got pregnant with the Messiah."

And luckily for the Messiah, in 1964 Roe v Wade was eight years in the future. Or his mother might have decided that she didn't want to be "punished" with a baby, either.

Posted by: Brown Line at September 01, 2008 10:05 AM (OMiLl)

52 The Prophet: 'This is not the womb I once knew.'

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 01, 2008 10:06 AM (v4v0B)

53 Well, obviously McCain vetted her, found out about it, and decided that Bristol's bun wasn't a deal-breaker.

It'll cause some consternation amongst social cons (and we're fooling ourselves if we think otherwise), but I'm not sure it's as big a deal as it might have been twenty or thirty years ago. Once you get into the rural hinterlands, teenage pregnancy really is pretty common (hell, my grandmother had two kids and a thrid on the way before she was 20!). I expect that the attention will focus not so much on the pregnancy, but on the "unwed mother" angle. Who's the daddy? Will he and Bristol get married? If not, what kind of support arrangement is going to be worked out?

It is interesting that McCain went ahead with Palin even though he must have known about Bristol's pregnancy. It does make his choice of VP seem like even more of a long-shot gamble than before.

Posted by: Monty at September 01, 2008 10:07 AM (dCZbI)

54 "Will he and Bristol get married?"

You're not actually following the story, are you?

Posted by: someone at September 01, 2008 10:11 AM (2z2WN)

55 Maybe we'll luck out and find out that the father is a Kenyan exchange student.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 01, 2008 10:26 AM (VBon8)

56 It's not to late for Bristol to get a late-term or partial birth abortion.

The should satisfy The One and Zealots.

Posted by: shit-house lawyer at September 01, 2008 10:26 AM (2CVxB)

57 Very stark contrasts here between the candidates.

O'Bama thinks that having a child is punishment.

Sarah Palin sees it for the wondrous joy that it is.

Posted by: thebronze at September 01, 2008 10:28 AM (YlH3h)

58 Here's a very, very classy story from Time. Has some great lines too.

Posted by: Christoph at September 01, 2008 10:33 AM (hawOV)

59 By the way, Obama is handling this with class. He issued a good statement, including that no one from his campaign is peddling these rumours and if they are, they would be fired.

He says he's offended that bloggers who support him are writing this crap. I believe him.

Posted by: Christoph at September 01, 2008 10:35 AM (hawOV)

60 Yeah, because Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter really hurt with those bible-thumpin' cousin-humpin' gun-totin' inbred conservative voters.

Fuckin' retard Mobys.

Posted by: J. Wilde at September 01, 2008 10:36 AM (ucJiT)

61 That Time article is good.

Should be required reading for moonbat reactionaries.

Posted by: mesablue at September 01, 2008 10:43 AM (5yNaE)

62 Also at mesablue's link, Obama says, "Back the fuck off, muthafuckas."

This marks one of the few times that I've been pleased with Obama. Very classy. Alas, his followers won't followers won't take their messiah's words to heart.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at September 01, 2008 10:43 AM (qPHMe)

63 #43 - She is certainly a MILF, on track to becoming a GILF, will hopefully be a VPILF, and God willing, someday a PILF. I suppose those last two could get me investigated by the Secret Service. Let me add, only if it's consensual!

Posted by: Mangas Colorados at September 01, 2008 10:49 AM (evvxr)

I don't want them punished with a baby.

Wow.

Posted by: mcgurk at September 01, 2008 10:52 AM (n3Ozc)

Life is largely about making mistakes. None of us are perfect.

What leftists don't understand is that it's what you do after the mistake that matters.

For instance, some families, upon hearing that their 17yr old daughter is pregnant, hand her $500 and walk her down to the clinic to have a "doctor" hack her baby out of her womb. Then they congratulate themselves for saving their daughter and themselves from all the inconviences and challenges of raising a child. Oh, and for their "open mindedness."

Others disown their daughters for disobeying them. Or move them in with a relative who lives out of town to save themselves a bit of social embarrassment.

Some offer their unconditional love and support. And understand that great blessings often arise from mistakes. And in doing so, they set the example for what parenthood is all about.

There's a name for this, by the way. Leftists have a hard time getting their heads around it. It's called character.

Posted by: Warden at September 01, 2008 11:12 AM (9xi/D)

66 Fundamental differences between liberals and conservatives:

Lib: baby = punishment
Con: baby = blessing (even if unexpected)

Liberals are banking on social conservatives using this as a Palin deal breaker. The libs are really showing that they don't understand conservatives at all (and never have) . A lot of conservatives preach abstinence, but they don't abandon or give up on people when they don't follow that advice. Conservatives are understanding, forgiving and supportive.

Between Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin, Palin's life is more similar to mine and my friends and family than any of the other 3.

BTW: where is the fucking hope in calling a baby punishment?

Posted by: lemmiwinks at September 01, 2008 11:16 AM (Qv6BF)

67 I was going to mention Mary Cheney and how it devastated GOP support back in 2004, but I was beaten to it.

Posted by: Techie at September 01, 2008 11:22 AM (yjPD8)

68 Sarah Palin is dealing with the event. I can only hope that this will make her a more sympathetic figure to woman voters.

I think it has to. A real life example from the trenches of talkin the talk and walkin the walk and not Obama's droning on dispassionately about some future hypothetical.

Posted by: liontooth at September 01, 2008 11:46 AM (n3pxb)

69 I wonder if Obama was a "punishment" to his mom? He sure will be a punishment to us if he gets elected president.

Posted by: Stealth at September 01, 2008 12:48 PM (fW++b)

70 As I recall h2u was raised in LA by the entertainment industry. He or she may not know as much about social conservatives as he or she thinks.
h2u has his heart in the right place but suffers from flyover blindness like most Californians.

Posted by: aubrey at September 01, 2008 01:24 PM (q/Z0+)

71 Obama who?

Posted by: mrp at September 01, 2008 01:42 PM (HjPtV)

72 God bless you, Ace, for juxtaposing those two quotes!! I've been waiting all day for one of the talk-radio hosts to make that same point--with those two quotes--and so far, none of 'em have. (Maybe better luck tomorrow, when Rush and Levin come back from the Labor Day weekend.)

Another juxtaposition that I hope people with millions of listeners will make repeatedly between now and November 4: the two Down Syndrome babies. On the one hand, the poor little aborted, but ALIVE, Down Syndrome baby that nurse Jill Stanek cradled for 45 minutes before he died because she couldn't bear the idea of this poor little baby having to die alone, on top of a pile of medical waste. The experience changed Stanek's life, and it was thanks in large part to her powerful testimony in the U.S. Senate that the Born Alive Infant Protection Act passed UNANIMOUSLY--even Barbara Boxer and Hillary Clinton voted for it. Barack Obama was still a lowly Illinois state senator in Springfield at the time, and when identical legislation was proposed in the Illinois state senate, Obama opposed it, vehemently and repeatedly. As head of the committee considering it, he even killed the bill and prevented it from getting to the senate floor.

Contrast to Sarah Palin, who found out she was pregnant unexpectedly at age 43, with a Down Syndrome baby, and.....well, we know the rest. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at September 01, 2008 01:49 PM (3i6ii)

73 "..punished with a baby." That is fucking sick. God I fucking hate a godless piece of shit liberal.

Posted by: The Drizzle at September 01, 2008 01:55 PM (fWnCD)

74 The Left just really doesn't get it. They honest-to-God think that Christians live in a 1600s, Puritan society where we burn heathens at the stake and throw women in the stocks for unchastity. They think of us in stereotypes. They have zero concept of Christian love or forgiveness. What do they really think we're going to do, sew a scarlet letter to Bristol Palin's clothes?

These things happen. I'm a long way from being a parent of a teenage girl but I would hesitate to judge Sarah Palin harshly. Kids are people, not automatons. You do your dead-level best to instill your values and hope and pray that they get it. If they make a bad decision, you teach them how to take responsibility for the consequences instead of running away. Considering that Bristol is keeping the baby (and making sure the baby has a real father who is married to Mom and not just a sperm donor), I'd say Sarah Palin did a pretty damn good job of that.

Damn Xtianist

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 01, 2008 02:03 PM (jdvJj)

75 How does Obama live with the guilt of being his mother's punishment?

Posted by: Maureen at September 01, 2008 02:13 PM (TAoZ5)

76 Forgot to mention in my earlier - author Francis Schaeffer was a husband and father at 18, having knocked up his girlfriend

Wait, are you talking about Franky Schaeffer, the son of the evangelist? Wow. I did not know this.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 01, 2008 03:32 PM (/GQkp)

Obama told his supporters to "cool it" on this story

wink wink nudge nudge

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