1

The wisdom of Vinnie Barbarino!

 

2 I will never feel guilty over all this Global Warming pap. So knock it off already, stupid Hollywood. Take your private jets and stick em where the moons of Jupiter don't shine.

I read Battlefield Earth twice. The movie was a Greek tragedy of horrible cinema.

3

My favorite aspect of Battle Field Earth.

The fourteen (actually less) day training rotation on the Harrier, that made me go back and watch the movie, and treat it the same way I treat harry potter movies/books (absolutely no scientific validation whatsoever, but a kinda fun story anyways) then I realized that he's a fucking "scientologist" which bases their faith on science, as explained by a non-scientist.

Also, I think that the runway is officialy communal.  All of the other people with huge estates in the area have their own taxi-ways.

And does his house look like brazilia? or is it just me?

4

Vinnie,

Up your nose with a rubber hose you friggin' moron.

5

Also,(again) greeny hypocricy pointed out in terms of the greenie's vs bush over at american geek's place yesterday.

(he's a mu.nuvian, just look to the right sidebar)

6 A 707 for me but no SUV for thee.

7 My favorite part is that he watches the humans, starving and fleeing in a sewer, eat rats out of desperation.

His conclusion:  RATS ARE HUMANS' FAVORITE FOOD.

It doesn't occur to him they had their choice only of rats, rocks, or shitwater.

For the rest of the movie, he thinks he has "leverage" over humans by offering them their favorite food -- he even force-feeds them rats when they don't jump to eat themselves-- and then begins calling them "rat-brains."

8 My God, how does someone live in a house that small?

There really are two Americas. Poor bastards.

9 I had to Google it for sure, but my suspicions were right--that IS a Boeing 707 in the hangar. That's 60's-era equipment. It HAS to be one of the most polluting energy hogs out there.

I mean, I don't begrudge people anything that they've earned, but this trifecta of Gore/Edwards/Travolta pissing on the little guy for our wasteful ways... sheesh. Is there another group of folks outside the liberal elite who can couple such self-absorption with a total lack of self-awareness?

10

I would like to know the carbon foot print for the production of Battlefield Earth.

Shut the fuck up, John.

11 Hmmmm, a meat girl sounds good about now......

12 Oh, yeah. Hail Xenu!

13 I think I see at least 5 auto/suv type vehicles out front of the house in addition to the jets. 

Wow, must be nice to afford that carbon footprint.

14 Holy shit. That's bigger than the Billing Montana airport. Is Lufthansa making stops there yet?

15 You know what the problem with Hollywood is? They make shit. Unbelievable, unremarkable shit. Now I'm not some grungy wannabe filmmaker that's searching for existentialism through a haze of bong smoke or something. No, it's easy to pick apart bad acting, short-sighted directing, and a purely moronic stringing together of words that many of the studios term as "prose". No, I'm talking about the lack of realism. Realism; not a pervasive element in today's modern American cinematic vision.

16 Ace, I saw Battlefield Earth in the movie theater three times.

Yes, it was that fucking good.

17 Sorry about the OT but this is incredible:

Thanks Nancy! refused to bring up a resolution of support for the Brits.

But she is going to manage to find time to go to Syria next week despite the request of BushMcHitler not to. Unless there are two Syrias, this is the one that is a halfway house for terrorists on their way to try and kill Americans in Iraq.

Thanks Nancy! for making it abundantly clear whose side you are on.

18 Admit it, Ace. Having a couple of Gulfstreams in your garage is fucking cool!

19

Drew...was there any doubt?

20 I'm all for pointing out absurdity, but owning multiple planes or multiple vehicles doesn't necessarily make for larger emissions output than if he owned just one.  After all, you can't drive / fly all of them at the same time.

21 If I got Kelly Preston out of the deal, I'd be a babbling moronic hypocrite too.

22 Chuck Norris doesn't have jets parked outside his mansion. The only thing he parks around his crib are his various larger than jet sized attitudes . And if you know what's good for you, you should worry less about Chuck's carbon footprint and more about his actual footprint - imprinted on the side of your face.

23

Alex,

I don't own planes, don't fly planes, don't know much about planes other than the whole heavier than air thing.

But I'm pretty well versed with machines and systems.

EVERY machine, and system needs to be ran regularly (not constantly) in order to prevent corrosive wear.

Park a car for 2 years, with a full tank, and gas in the cylinders, then drive it.  It might still drive, but it will likely drive for shit, the tires will have flats, the suspension will have "hard" points creating that "clunk" you get when you turn corners or hit bumpy roads.  The walls of the cylinders will have as much if not more wear on them as though they had been driven as many miles as they should have been, but weren't.  The venturi's (if you have an old old car) will likely be inconsistant causing incomplete vaporization into the cylinders.  Your cams will have contact corrosion, causing an exaggerated intake/exhaust, compression periods creating a throaty engine.

Systems must run, not constantly, but just enough to make all of those issues virtually meaningless in the overall equation.

 

Point. so even if the planes (extraordinarily expensive and complicated systems) don't fly constantly, or at the same time, they must be maintained, and to maintain them, they still must spend time operating, if not always flying.

24 I think having those jets and flying them is cool as all get out. I wish I could do it, and I don't begrudge Travolta at all for them.

I just wish hafwits like him were kept from the microphone when they aren't mouthing lines someone else wrote for them.

25

He owns 5 jets, but parks them under car ports?  Is that like the elitist version of leaving a rusted '75 Chevy on blocks in the front yard?

Airplane hangars, Vinnie.  Google it.

26  Ace:  It's not his own private runway. He shares it with other filthy rich people who own jets. It's like a housing development with the runway in the middle.  And how do I know this? I saw it on an episode of  CSI-MIAMI.

27

See Red?

Thats why I get into trouble, only way to get any acknowledgement around here is to make dick jokes, cuz I said almost exactly that almost 2 hours ago!?

I swear, I'm the dangerfield (heh, fitting) of this place.

Criminy!

TO THE MOON!

28 Look at Red getting all funky with the new comments thingy!  I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks.

29

OT, but Ace?

Is the Valour IT thing still active, or have they met their goals?

I just ask cuz it's kinda depressing to see that the numbers haven't gone up whenever I see it, and am trying to vote for gravel and tommy thompson.

30 Ace: I heard that the runway isn't actually Travolta's, but that it is a shared runway with the other rich estates (and their planes) in the neighborhood.

31 What's to teach? You select and click.  Since, Ace has a special affinity for David Caruso, I thought pink was an appropriate color.

32 You're trying to vote for Tommy? Why?
Freddie is in the mix now, so unless you got some good pics of Tommy Thompsons wife it should be Fred vs Kuisinch

33 I think that once you complete OT8 as Master Travolta has, you can actually control his carbon emmissions with you're mind. 


But seriously, what does this kind of thing prove?  That Travolta is a hypocrite?  OK.  Shit, I guess I'll have to alter my plans of writing in Cruise/Travolta in '08.

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't make an effort to conserve energy.  Even if you don't buy global warming (or specifically you don't buy that global warming is caused or exacerbated by human activities) energy conservation is a good thing.  Certainly pollution is bad for all kinds of reasons, and certainly non-renewable resources being, well, non-renewable, should be preserved to the extant we are able and willing to do so.  I mean, we ARE going to run out of oil someday.  Probably not in my lifetime, but probably, for all intents and purposes, within my as yet unconceived grandchildren's. 

How have you guys made this into a partisan issue?  Why?  Shouldn't we take reasonable steps to conserve energy and reduce pollution just because?

34 Sorta OT, but, the EPA goes after West Coast choppers for 50 bikes that will hardly ever get ridden? These scooters cost a minimum of 80k. Simple garage jewelry. Even if used as a commuter vehicle they would still be better for the environment than any subcompact. The EPA also wants Cat Converters on all bikes in '09. Yeah I want something that doesn't work until it gets up to 450 degrees, inches from my leg. Our government should give tax credits and seperate, small lanes  for bikes if it wants to save the planet. After reading about this asshole, Mr Barbarino, I will never feel guilty using my SUV to tow my 26', 454 powered boat. I'm supposed to take the bus to donk rallies, and that's all the moving around I should do. I should be home writing letters to the editor, about the Doomsday of Global warming and how great Nancy Pisslousy is. Fucking Jerks. No fun for you Mr sixpack! Sorry about the rambling, rough day climbing poles all day.

35 I'm all for a domed city.

36 The runway may be shared, but the planes get parked at the home and taxi via big roads to the central runway.  I think.  I'm pretty sure I've seen his house and yup, there there be airplanes.

37

Fox News is running a special Saturday night on Sandy Berger called "Socks, Scissors, Paper: The Sandy Berger Caper.

Looks interesting.

If you guys watch Fox you probably already knew that, but im sure there are some of you, like me, who only get there news online so there ya go.

 

p.s. Thanks for linking to that global warming debate Pinto. Im going to listen to it later.

 

 

38 The runway may be shared, but the planes get parked at the home and
taxi via big roads to the central runway.  I think.  I'm pretty sure
I've seen his house and yup, there there be airplanes.

No, you're right. It's like turning off your street and driving up your drive way. I just wanted to bring up the fact that they  showed this place, or at least one similar to it, also in Florida, on CSI-MIAMI with the hope of outing you as a DAVID CARUSO fan.

39 Plus, I think it's cool. If I were rich, I would own 10 private jets!

40 But seriously, what does this kind of thing prove?  That Travolta is a hypocrite?  OK.



Yeah.  Did you read Ace's post?  What in his post are you objecting to?  Why are you always arguing for the mere sake of arguing?



That doesn't mean that we shouldn't make an effort to conserve energy.



Where in Ace's post do you see him claiming we should waste energy?



How have you guys made this into a partisan issue?  Why?



I don't know what you're talking about.  We all want clean air,
seattle.  We just don't like being lectured by Hollywood nitwits
pushing ill-conceived non-solutions like Kyoto.

41 So, what's everybody watching tonight? I bought a cheap copy of Snatch. I always avoided seeing it because I find Brad Pitt to be, well, whipped.  When he and Jen got matching hair highlights, jeesh.  Now,  buying little pagan babies with Angelina Jolie, -- I expect him to show up anyday now with huge botox lips. Whipped. Whipped. Whipped.

42

How have you guys made this into a partisan issue?  Why?  Shouldn't we take reasonable steps to conserve energy and reduce pollution just because?

I can understand your sentiment there, Seattle. It is just extremely aggravating and outrageous that people who won't give up one single fucking luxury want to limit the productive activity of millions who are only trying to make a living.

And that is what they are trying to do, have no doubt about it. The kind of initiatives they want to put in place would negatively impact your standard of living- think energy rationing- and doom third world people to continued misery.

But it would have no impact on the mega-wealthy, who pollute far far far more than their fellow man.

And carbon credits are a bullshit scam shellgame. Don't get me started.

Just one of these people could offset the pollution of hundreds if not thousands of other people. But they aren't willing to do it.

All they're willing to do is flap their lips about it. Fuck them.

I'm sticking with the folks who want my standard of living to improve, not hold me back because of dubious and unscientific causes.

43 Watching this evening?

Past episodes of "Friday Night Lights."

44

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't make an effort to conserve energy.

Seattle? ENERGY! not carbon.  I'm experimenting (and trying to convince my big brother, but he ain't gonna listen to a fucking word I say right now(can't say he's wrong)) with compact flourescents.

In common use?  YAY, or rather in INDIRECT use, YAY.  Direct lighting, I say EH, maybe.  I don't know if one exists, but a variable wattage flourescent would make a big difference in the house I reside in.  (readers)

But I think GW is bullshit, but I use the most reasonable tech for the most reasonable reason.

Thats called the FUCKING MARKET SEATTLE!

Promote the market, don't try to guilt people, you know why? we have enough of it in America, UN, EU and all of the BULLSHIT anti-American groups who get airtime no matter how retarded they are.

Let it play Seattle, don't you FUCKING DARE! legislate it.

see the distinction?

45

So, what does this prove?

 

Remember when The Decider choked on a pretzel?

 

46

You dumb rethuglicans, you just don't understand nuance.

Sure, John Travolta might fly one of his 5 private jets, but it's much safter to get into the Gay Mile High Club on a private plane.

Besides, look at the picture- I see a good dozen palm trees planted there.  The resulting carbon credits from those trees surely offsets the carbon output of his Boeing 707.  See?  Nuance.

Did you guys hire an landscaper to plant a dozen palm trees in your yard?  Didn't think so.

47

Well LauraW?

with my less than 30K annual average salary over the last 5 years, I HAVE made a point of buying gigantic blocks of dry ice, and CO2 tanks, while burning gas can's just for the pretty colors.

Thats how us people who aren't living up to, but should be forced to, live up the green ideal of our lives roll.

I'm just saying.

Got any toxic plastics?  I will cook my baby seal burgers on it.  Cuz thats what us impoverished retards do.

48 Sure, John Travolta might fly one of his 5 private jets, but it's much
safter to get into the Gay Mile High Club on a private plane.

Not when you are also the pilot and it's in the cockpit.

49
I had to Google it for sure, but my suspicions were right--that IS a Boeing 707 in the hangar. That's 60's-era equipment. It HAS to be one of the most polluting energy hogs out there.

50s-era equipment, actually. Not only that, but AFAIK there was never an engine replacement program available for the 707 like there has been for the similar KC-135. If Travolta's 707 is new enough, it might've been built with the same low-bypass turbofans that were used to re-engine ANG & AFRes KC-135Es, but those are still screamers compared to the high-bypass turbofans used by modern airliners (and Air Force KC-135Rs).

If it's not so new (with "new" being a relative term for an airplane that was last built in 197 , it could be running on old-school turbojet engines, which go through fuel like Ted Kennedy goes through scotch.

50

So what?

The Vice President shot someone in the face. Does that mean shouldn't care about gun safety?

51

The Vice President shot someone in the face. Does that mean shouldn't care about gun safety?

No, that means we're fully supportive of letting Cheney shoot in the face whomever he wants to.

Similarly, I'm in favor of rich people buying whatever the fuck they want- it's money that goes back into the economy. 

However, if you like to fly large private jets around as a fucking hobby, you should probably keep quiet about suggesting the rest of us make sacrifice at the altar of the Global Warming Fairy.

52 The Vice President shot someone in the face. Does that mean shouldn't care about gun safety?

Not if he did it on purpose, 'cause that's the way he rolls.

53

 Shouldn't we take reasonable steps to conserve energy and reduce pollution just because?

 

Oh, so Mother Nature needs a favor? Well, maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts and floods and poison monkeys. Nature started the fight for survival and she wants to quit because she’s losing? Well i say 'Tough Shit Sister!'

 

I dont have kids. And i dont like other peoples children. If the world bursts into flame 5 seconds after i drop dead (hopefully with a hooker going down on me like an Exxon-Mobile tanker piloted by a drunken Captain) - I couldnt give less of a damn.

Thats why im a Republican.

Thompson in 08!

54 Meh. A setup. Everyone knows he loves to fly jets. He named his son "Jet" fercryinoutloud. The article accuses him of lecturing, but it sounds like he was goaded into talking about it.

He says: "I'm probably not the best candidate to ask about global warming because I fly jets." Haven't heard Al Gore say anything like that.

The article says: "One of the world's leading climate change businesses, the Carbon
Neutral Company, has written to Travolta, suggesting ways he could
reduce these alarming levels.

He has yet to respond to their advice. Environmental groups were quick to criticise Travolta for "discrediting the cause".

So, what's he supposed to say? If he says GW is an issue, the morons on this moronblog attack him. If he says it's not, the entirety of the MSM and liberal Hollywood will attack him. And either side will drag Scientology in to the discussion. I say "Meh".

WP: I sorta sat uncomfortably through BE right up until the harrier scene. Then I curled up in a fetal position on the floor. Which, at the theater, was unsanitary to say the least.

55

I called Travolta and asked if he would fly me to work on Monday and he hung up!           

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What a freak! 

 

He's not very nice at all.

 

 

56 Good point, moviegique. Did this same company write Al Gore who also  flies private jets all the time and  suggest ways he could reduce his carbon buttprint? If so, what was his response? Oh, yeah, he invests in his own shell game company.  What a load of crap.

57

If the world bursts into flame...

Pardon me while I burst into flames.

Will The Decider pardon Gonzales after he's convicted of perjury?

58 Does anyone really give me about what John Travolta says?

59

I hate ratts.

60 Is that parker posey in that video?

61 Okay, maybe not "Friday Night Lights."

We decided on "Lonesome Dove" instead.  Forgot how darn good this minseries is.

62

14 day training rotation on one of the most complicated flying systems on the planet.

That made me re-evaluate the movie as pure fantasy.  I BET however that there are some lefty's who think that driving a harrier is easy, just like some think driving a dragster is easy.  I personaly drove a hyped up firebird, and while it didn't frighten to drive it I thought to myself "I could REALLY fuck up with this car"

Harriers? have the whole xyz simultaneous understanding thing.

Thats why I love BE.  It's SO BAD scientificaly, how could anyone think that the author was even remotely a scientist, let alone THE scientist.

63

Travolta's right.  Let's all start riding bicycles to balance out the environmental damage done by Hollywood liberals.  Matter of fact, we should all just shun electricity, abandon our homes, move into some caves and bang some fucking rocks together for entertainment while Vinnie Barbarino galavants around the globe with his fleet of jets.

64

I don't know what to watch tonight. Charlie's Angels or the Captain & Tenille Show. How about both?

65 Will The Decider pardon Gonzales after he's convicted of perjury?

Yes. But only because im planning on kicking his ass back to Mexico with all the other members of La Raza. And when somebody points out that he is an American citizen im just going to say "mistakes were made." Then im going to laugh and punch the Democrat who asked me that question in the throat. Of course it will be a Democrat - who else would be stupid enough to 'speak truth to power' to the all-powerful? Then i'll  punch a few more just to make up for all the ones Bush hasnt beat the shit out of.

After that i think ill ban all Incubus videos. More like Suckubus. Next i think i will force people to laugh at my 'suckubus' joke and tell me that i am witty and handsome. Which is true.

Also under my Rule - 'Lonesome Dove' will be on tv every night. Its the best movie ever made. And for what its worth - im the one that bit that whores lip. Thats what she gets for whackin me in the face with my own pistol.

66

No fucking way!  You are not welcome here!

 

I'm a nice quiet, empty planet and that's just the way I like it.

 

Robots are OK though.

 

67 Woo-hoo!

68 Seattle Slough,
I do believe that Al Gore cares a lot about the climate, and GW. I respect him for that, and I have decided to follow his example. So here is my pledge: I will never let my carbon footprint get bigger than Al Gore's carbon footprint. Is that good enough?

69

Are environmentalists mentally ill?

Is it normal to be worried about what other people's cars smell like?

Is it normal to obsessed with tiny tiny amounts of chemicals in the air that are virtually harmless?

These people are fucking insane.

70

Check out the guy in the dalmation suit voicing his concerns about 'hormone disruption.'

 

71 Charlie's Angels or the Captain & Tenille

Apparently Humor and tits bigger than B cups weren't invented unti sometime in the mid 80s.

Maybe you should just watch the 3 minute version of Steven Spielbergs Dual a couple of hundred times instead.

How did you find that picture of Coulter?

72 >>>>>>That doesn't mean that we shouldn't make an effort to conserve energy. Even if you don't buy global warming (or specifically you don't buy that global warming is caused or exacerbated by human activities) energy conservation is a good thing. Certainly pollution is bad for all kinds of reasons, and certainly non-renewable resources being, well, non-renewable, should be preserved to the extant we are able and willing to do so.

------

Conservation is fine, but don't push to take away from people or control behavior through taxes and regulation. And don't fucking tell me that I have to give up a small excess like an SUV to save the world when YOU LIVE LIKE A FUCKING KING AND DO FUCKING NADA.

73

Robots are OK though.

Except that 50 foot tall weird one with the one glove & the lasers shooting out of his eyes... I don't want that freak anywhere near me.

74 WP,

   Well, as is common in movies, the screenplay was not written by (and bears strikingly little resemblance to) the book. There are no harriers in the book (were there harriers when it was written, come to think of it?). The movie is really just a pastiche of sci-fi movie clichés: lotsa crap in the air, a la Ridley Scott (especially Blade Runner); harriers taking the place of X-Wings; other things I've long since blotted out of my mind. The style is all wrong, super-serious '80s dystopic, instead of  '40s-style serial (too much Scott, not enough Lucas).

   Inept, I thought, right up to the harriers. Then I thought: cynical and inept.

   Sorta like those moments in Jackson's hobbit movie where they have Liv Tyler and Viggo Mortensen communicating telepathically, and where they show the old people and children and Helm's Deep weeping. I thought, "Somebody saw Titanic." Cynical--but not inept.

  

75

A simple search led me to musings of a fat kid. I was originally looking for our earliest interaction at AoS. Back then, you were liked.

Fucking canadians ruin everything. (You guys probably already saw this in the recent "worst cover" thread.)

76 <i>How have you guys made this into a partisan issue?</i>

I assume by "you guys" you're referring to your fellow travelers on the left, who've recast skeptics as "deniers."

77

Liv Tyler and Viggo Mortensen communicating telepathically,

They could that because they had sex, right?

78 Kate was the hottest angel. They frumped her up on the show because she was also the best actress.

My daughter is actually made ill by new car smell (though other things are much worse on her), and all the stuff they point is both there and bad (as far as I watched) but fercryinoutloud, who's going to get exposed to it enough for it to matter? Do you buy a new car every week?

On the other hand, I know people who work in finishing plants, and they all seem to come up with mysterious illnesses. 't ain't science but I'll give it a miss anyway.

79 holy crap is that Shania thing awful. New country music sucks so fucking bad.

Useless fact: Her husband Mutt Lange was the producer of several ACDC albums i think. Pretty sure he's the one that produced Back in Black which is the album with that song on it.


Some of that Fat Kid stuff was pretty funny. I think in a peiod of about a day and a half we had nearly 20,000 hits. Which was pretty impressive considering he was probably averaging about 30 a day at the time. We were linked by Ace, Malkin, FrankJ, NRO, Instapundit and maybe a couple of others. It was pretty crazy.

The only reason i did it was because the Unpopulist had banned me while he was guestposting here at Aces while ace was at Sundance.

80 They could that because they had sex, right?

I thought it worked the other way. Once you have sex, the guy stops calling, messaging, sending messages telepathically....

81

Why don't you resurrect the fatkid blog?

Whatever happened to the Unpopulist? Better question: Who is the Unpopulist? And why did he ban you?

Is is because you hate brown people?

82 We decided on "Lonesome Dove" instead.  Forgot how darn good this minseries is.

"Lonesome Morons"  -- a screenplay just waiting to be written.

83

moviegique, I've run across a few people who had smell-phobias and allergies.

Some people hate the smell of paint. Others hate the smell of new carpet.

Personally, I hate the smell of people. Women, not so much. But the smell of men is sickening. Except for me, of course. I smell like soap.

84

The Vice President shot someone in the face. Does that mean shouldn't care about gun safety?

I forget the basic rules, but they are rules.  I don't know them for a hunt, but I know them for a fire team.

FIRST, you don't "flagg" as in point your rifle at anyone in your team (I got butstroked (not hard) for that, even though I didn't actually flagg anyone)

when hunting, there is a "shooter" You NEVER stand within 90% of the shooter, there are 2 basic reasons for that, first is that the sun is in front of you and you can't focus on near targets, the other is, that the sun is 270% behind you, and you are blanketed by the grass/prairie.  I thought lefties liked prairies, after all it's the republicans who created the "dustbowl" (though actually it was the populist democrats, but dem's don't let history get in the way of truth)

The guy who got shot in the face survived, because he obeyed at least 2 of the rules of gunfire (I don't know about hunting)  "stand behind the leader, and follow the leaders line of fire"

and he got shot in the face, a fuck up, but not really not much a one.  Those times I "flagged" my team in the MC were restrictive, but they all knew that in combat it would occur.

Granted hunting isn't combat, however, it wasn't CHENEY, who broke protocol, it was the guy who got shot in the face.

First rule of war?  Don't be there.

85

Anyone else notice that minx icon is very, um, phallic?

It's a cherry, right?

Well, that cherry looks like a ding-dong and the leaf looks like a ballbag.

86 I smell like soap.

Posted by: Bart


Does anyone here want to admit they smell like jasmine bath powder?

87

Bart,

While buying smokes this morning, I ran across a guy who smelled like a candle that set fire to a home filled with shitty perfume, and I mentioned it.

I coughed and damn near hacked.  Thank god I was so much taller and heavier than him.  It might have been ugly.

88 >>>Well, that cherry looks like a ding-dong and the leaf looks like a ballbag.

I'm sure it does to you, Bart.

When all you have is a hammer...

89

I am either neutral, or stale sweat.

I've prolly hit more chicks than any of you weak ass men.

and by "weak ass men" I mean "men who actually have standards only to have fallen in love and gotten married to decent women, the same sort of women I am friends of with"

FUCK!

DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!

90

Leave me alone!

YES you guys rock, I'm too busy assuming the fetal in the corner of this room, too ashamed to buy feisty, and in fact she prolly wouldn't take me anyways, since she's mooning over Ace.

Anyways, back to point.

DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!!!

91

I'm joking of course, I think I'm on the edge of a rational understanding.

Unlikely, but possible.  

92 Is is because you hate brown people?

Pretty much.   Heres the post where the shit happened.

The Unpopulist posted a story about Robert Byrd using the phrase "Mud People."

So i made a comment saying that Byrd was a great American and started warning people about the 'Mud People Menace.'

Except i wasnt talking about Black people - i was talking about Mud People and Lava men like what you would find in old Sci Fi movies and comics. It was a pretty funny.

At the end of the comment i said that after the Lava Men had moved into your neighborhood and took your job your daughter would come home knocked up by a guy like 'this' - which was a picture i linked of a Lava Man from the Tick cartoon.

So the dude edits my comment down to where it looks like im a dumbass and accuses me of 'crossing a line' and pretty much being a racist in the part of the comment that he deleted. 

I explained the joke. He wasnt buying it. I tell him to just go ahead and delete my comment completely so that i dont look like an idiot. No Dice. So i appealed to Dave from Garfield Ridge to vouch for me since he knew i was a regular. Of course Dave sold me out and said it was the Unpopulists post and it was his rules.

So the Unpopulist says "Your cred's intact, no one else is upset." At the same time he is saying that though he is busy banning me. I had to wait a few days for ace to get back to get unbanned.


The Fat Kid took pity on me and asked me to come hang out at his blog. I only stayed long enough to make a point. Im not sure what that point was though...

93 While buying smokes this morning, I ran across a guy who smelled like a
candle that set fire to a home filled with shitty perfume, and I
mentioned it.

Ironically i saw a news story about a guy in Chicago whos entire family was killed in a fire at a Bed Bath and Beyond. Im sure it was a coincidence.

Either that or you just crushed what was left of a mans will to live this morning. 

Id say you got at least a fifty fifty shot of not having blood ob your hands.

94 Back to the "Can i smell your Car" vid.  According to Wikipedia the Phthalates in car seats and in other products, that they are warning people of, have never been shown to be dangerous. At least in the small amounts they are talking about.

They DO cause problems for people that have allergies. Ive known people to have the same problem with New Carpet for the first few days after its installed. In both cases you just need to make sure that the room or the new car are well ventilated for the first few days. The chemicals should dissipate by then.

95 Robots are OK though.

Women too. We need women.

96

Isn't it nice when you count on reasonable people to have the stones and decency to vouch for your character? Cocksuckers.

I used to comment at a forum up until Hurricane Katrina. I repeated a joke about the stupid looters stealing plasma television and computers with no homes or electricity in which to use them. So there were a bunch of people lugging around electronics equipment instead of acting like decent human beings.

I also defended the shooting of the looters. A few days after the hurricane, they were a few pics floating around with white people, of course, guarding their homes with shotguns.

I got called a racist. A couple of assholes tried to say I hate black people because I wanted to keep them from providing for their families. (This wasn't a poltical forum, and it had lots of international weenies as memebers.)

I answered the charge by asking how stealing a 42" inch wide screen tv is providing for your family. The answer I got was that I was a racist, again. George Bush AND Bart hate black people. I was offended and a little hurt. The same people calling me a racist were the same people I joked with and shared stories with for two and a half years.

Only one person came to my defense. One out of thousands. I left that place and became a more frequent commenter at AoS.

 

97

Thanks Amish, I will spend the rest of the night with nightmares.

Ain't you a hero!

I hate you, but I love you, but I hate you, kiss me?

98 Only one person came to my defense. One out of thousands. I left that place and became a more frequent commenter at AoS.

So those people are to blame for you being here. Damn them. Damn them to Hell.

A cartoon about Dating.

99 Misogynist.

100 I hate you, but I love you, but I hate you, kiss me?

A Cartoon About Dating Pinto

101

Bart,

That story kind of reminds me of an experience I had in the 'lounge' section of an automotive forum I used to hang out at. Around Christmas a few years back, I wake up one morning, open the front door to get the loal paper, & standing there on the front porch staring at me is this 4' tall plastic Santa Claus. It was pretty funny, as I had any number of friends that would've taken it from a yard somewhere and left it my porch.

This Santa was very brown. I'm assuming that his flesh was dark colored so when it was plugged in and lit the look was more 'normal' than washed out and bright white. Anyway, I snapped a pic & posted it to this group of guys that I had been hangin' out with for years knowing we'd all get a good laugh. I titled the thread "Creepy Black Santa" or something to that effect. A good many jokes were thrown around, but before long came the racist accusations - luckily, most of my 'friends' knew otherwise, but I was downright amazed at some of the actual racists I thought I knew & had been convesing with for so long. Needless to say, some of the debate got more than heated, and that was one of the only threads I had ever seen locked on that board. It's amazing how hateful some people are out there.

Don't even get me started on the Katrina threads when that happened. The photoshops of the looters were hilarious (remember the guy with the tub of Heinekens?), but the racists were eating that shit up.

102 Lonesome Dove should have been called "everybody you care about dies." That series annoyed me. There wasn't really any story, and all the guys you really care about die, suddenly.

103 McMyrtry always does that.  Anus.

104

"How have you guys made this into a partisan issue?"

I assume by "you guys" you're referring to your fellow travelers on the left, who've recast skeptics as "deniers."

Well done, zetetic. Thanks for reminding us who first politicized this particular corner of 'science.'

There's a very good reason why we call environmentalists watermelons; green on the outside, red on the inside.

It's the last gasp of communism. Those idiots lost the major competition, now they're trying to win by kneecapping us economically. Paaaathetic.

105
Lonesome Dove should have been called "everybody you care about dies."
That series annoyed me. There wasn't really any story, and all the guys
you really care about die, suddenly.

Damn, is it well-done depressing death, though.

I read the book for the first time last month.  Been meaning to do it for years, but finally got around to it.  Very well-written.

106 There wasn't really any story

you really didnt think there was much story? You are talking about the original Lonesome Dove and not the crappy sequels and prequels right?

I couldnt disagree with you more. I think that it is one of the finest movies ever made. Ive never seen a movie that was more faithful to the source material. The casting was perfect and the acting was absolutely brilliant.  Robert Duvall said that Augustus McCrae was the greatest role he ever played. He compared the character to Hamlet in terms of his complexity.

Sure the movie had a lot of deaths, but i dont think any of them were gratuitous. Each of them, no matter how sad, advanced the story.

its a great movie that i never get tired of watching. I cant say enough good things about it.

P.S. if anybody is a fan of the movie - avoid the other books in the series. They are terrible. All the characters from the first book pretty much die 'off screen' and the ones that survive are mangled beyond recognition.

107 Just finished the part of the series where Woodrow Call puts some serious beatdown on a "rude" soldier.

Damn.

108 I read the book for the first time last month.  Been meaning to do it
for years, but finally got around to it.  Very well-written.

I liked it as well. It was amazing how much of it they were able to squeeze into the movie. Even the small things. I actually think that the small bits that they left out in the movie actually improved the story overall. Which is pretty rare.

Useless fact: when Dish goes to see Laury at the Dry Bean and runs into Jake there, the song that Lippy is playing is called "Lorena."  Theres a group called the "Seldom Scene" that does a very nice instrumental version of it.

109 Whoever wrote the screenplay for the series did an amazing job.  They move the story along well, while keeping enough character development to make you care about these people.

And I just have to say, Po Campo kicks all sorts of ass.

"My wife is in hell, where I sent her..."

110 If theres one thing that Call hates its rude behavior in a man. Wont tolerate it.

111 William Wittliff did the screenplay for Lonesome Dove. He wrote a couple of Willie Nelson westerns too. The Red Headed Stranger and a movie called Barbarosa
that is also very good. Its low budget but the story is excellent. Willie does a good job, and Gary Busey co stars. I recommend it.

112 I'll have to check it out, thanks.

113 I always get Barabrosa confused with Barbarella -- the movie with Jane Fonda's pointy tits.

114 Did this drooling fake buy all the aircraft to fly all the hollywood types out of the country after the evil George Bush was elected?, seems to me I remember a select group of ass clowns stateing they could not live in the USA any long longer. A surplus Liberty ship would have served the purpose with a smaller carbon footprint, with all the money they make ,with so little talent , they could buy a island and elect Shawn Penn as king. Alex could be the court jester. Jane Fonda could be the female Gilligan. Now that is a story line made for the wide screen.

115

Red, I can totally understand why Brad Pitt would get highlights:

Jen:  "Brad, get highlights."

Brad: "Why?"

Jen opens her blouse. "See these?   If you don't, you won't."

Brad blinks rapidly and drools. "Yes, dear."

116 shit. I can't exactly respond to everyone.



As for my tone or purpose, I'd say that my comment was half about Ace's comment, (the parts about Travolta) and half about, not so much this comment, but this entire blog's repeated belittling of anyone and anything that believes in human caused global warming.

At least twice daily Ace paints the current scientific consensus in a bad light. I frankly don't get it. I honestly don't even know what Ace does believe. I only know that he thinks people that take climate change seriously are fools.

As for Cheney shooting someone in the face, it is more important because it plays on his fitness to do a really important job. He is the vice president.

Let's say John Travolta shot someone in the face. I might then be worried about his ability to churn out yet another shitty movie. So what. He's John Travolta.

But if the guy who was about to fly my plane, or perform surgery on my heart, or represent me in a court of law, shoots a guy in the face in a hunting accident, I might be concerned enough about my own interest in the guy, to want to know more about it.

Yes, I am unhappy with Dick Cheney, but he is also the Vice President, and thus, both represents and rules this country to some extent.

I could be wrong (and some of you seem to have a scarily better recollection of specific comments I've made in the past than I do) But I think I brought up Dick Cheney on this blog because people were making an issue of Patrick Kennedy's single car MVA and the ensuing DC police "coverup."

I believe my response was, "He shot who in the face?"



And Al Gore doesn't just buy carbon offsets, (which people here seem to not fully understand but that is a separate issue) but also pays for carbon free (in operation if not implementation) energy (like wind and solar). He has also, believe it or not, lowered his consumption.

That is the point. You don't have to ruin your life and we wouldn't have to ration energy if we all took a few simple steps to use less. No one is telling Bill Gates that he doesn't get to live in a big house. I almost think that the fact that Al Gore lives well and seems to have found a way to reduce and offset his production is a good thing. If Al Gore pulled an Ed Bagley Jr, yes, we would appreciate his conviction, but would that be a realistic thing to expect Americans to emulate.

Who wants to live like Ed Begley Jr?

Compact fluorescents are a good example. Our family uses them in the kitchen and outside and in our basement and bathrooms and such. But, yes, any light that has a dimmer on it, like the living room and dining room and the kid's bedroom, still uses incandescents.

But the technology is improving and once they have a CF light bulb that is near to indiscernible from incandescent, they SHOULD legislate them out. The energy (and thus to an extent carbon) benefit is beyond significant. It is a savings of near 80%. And if it really isn't worse, it seems like a no-brainer.

Seems like about par with the absolute continuing nightmare that is the ban on CFC aerosols.

[Again sorry about the rambling.]

117 Seattle, the 'current scientific consensus' once said the sun revolves around the earth.  Explain why consensus has any basis in science, around when you explain why doomsday immediate emergency action scenarios would have no dibs on the public coffers.  Or why any scientist would be opposed to that.  After all, they need Porsches too!

118 I liked Lonesome Dove, but tell me: what was the story? A bunch of guys ride north and almost all of them die. That's it? There were lots of great themes and I enjoyed the movie but it wasn't what it is advertised or said to be. It was a cowboy movie, but it was a movie about misery and death, depressing as hell.

119 "the 'current scientific consensus' once said the sun revolves around the earth"

What is that supposed to mean? That since Science has been wrong in the past, it is what? Wrong here? Um, how much has science gotten right? Including Copernican Astronomy. How about everything that makes every technological advance we take for granted possible.

The point is, that even if Science is wrong, and certainly the lay person isn't generally in a position to say either way, is it a risk worth taking? Potentially irreparable harm of our planet vs. mild inconvenience?

It would be one thing if the global warming alarmists were a small minority within the scientific community. But it isn't. Not even close. How can anyone support a minority viewpoint

And it is simply ludicrous, the suggestion that those who are concerned about it are only in it for financial benefit. (because scientists are just saying this so they can buy a sports car) Consider that the only organized resistance to this consensus is from big industry funded think tanks who have a demonstrable financial stake in the status quo. Exxon is the most profitable company in the history of the world.

120 I pick up people for a well known rent a car company, drive with the window down, even in the middle of winter. essence of pork and beans is not the my favorite flavor for the pine tree, but it beats the hell out of the great unwashed, and my boss will not let me put them in the trunk, or a plastic bag. Gets so bad I stick cigarette filters up my nose to "Have a nice day". I am keeping all the spare change under the seats to buy a second hand gas mask with a smiley face on both sides from a bus driver friend of mine. I would quit but it pays more them the "Welcome to Wal Mart "gig.

121 One of the most fundamental principles of scientific inquiry is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. If you claim you can create stacks of diamonds out of thin air, you'll have to show incredible proof before anyone will buy it.

Outrageous, doomsday claims of future catastrophe and unbelievable environmental hazard fall under this category. The proof for these claims, far from being extraordinary isn't even ordinary. It's not even extant, it is theoretical and based on rigged computer models. There's no, repeat no scientific proof of the hysterical human-created global warming disaster.

The hard evidence, the actual, reliable scientific data point to a natural warming cycle with is modest and at this point appears to be slowing if not ending. Period.

122 Well that makes me feel better. Period.

Except, who says the claim is extraordinary? The green house principal is hardly difficult to understand. That we are polluting our atmosphere with millions of tons of emissions and particulate is a fact. The extraordinary jump is only that B might be causing A. Period. Combined with the fact that we are getting warmer, it is not exactly an unbelievable claim.

It sure is easy to say that all of the computer models are rigged, but that would require one to to analyze each and every model. Which you haven't. Period.

Fact is, we are seeing a dramatic warming pattern. Undeniably. You want us to believe, no bank on, this being mere coincidence with the burning of approximately half of the world's oil reserves. Even though most persons who actually understand climatology disagree. And even though, if we're wrong, we might fuck up the planet beyond our ability to fix it.

P.S. whenever uncited, unsourced generalizations end with the single word sentence, "Period." you can assume the writer has no idea what they are talking about. Period.

123 "Potentially irreparable harm of our planet"
"who says the claim is extraordinary?"

Heh

124 I'm still waiting for a consenus opinion on why the ice caps on Mars are melting. Did Mr. Travolta up and move there after all?

125

Fact is, we are seeing a dramatic warming pattern. Undeniably.

There is nothing "dramatic" about the current warming period, if we are indeed undergoing one at all (the satellite evidence indicates that the atmospheric temperature hasn't budged since 1970, and the surface measurements are compromised by the fact that they're all taken on "urban islands").  We are emerging from a minor ice age, and the data collected by the very same scientists at whose altar you worship indicates that every known ice age has been followed by a period of significant warming.  What we're undergoing here (the politically-derived potential rise in sea levels of a whopping 23 inches over 50 years!!!!!1111) is only "dramatic" to you because of liberals' grotesquely over-inflated sense of place and importance.

But go on with your crazy lightbulb-buying self.  The rest of us, living in reality as we do, will recognize the fact that this idiotic hysteria has been ginned up by socialists and propagated by grant-chasing scientists working on models based on a laughably incomplete data set.  Models, mind you, that are about as good at "predicting" past climates (a pretty important feature of any predictive model, I'd say) as the local weatherbimbo is at predicting the local rain pattern a week in advance.

P.S. whenever uncited, unsourced generalizations end with the single word sentence, "Undeniably." you can assume the writer is so invested in their chosen mythology that their ego can't handle any challenge to it.  Undeniably.

126 whenever uncited, unsourced generalizations end with the single word sentence, "Period." you can assume the writer has no idea what they are talking about. Period.

Irony.