October 31, 2006
— Ace Just a little refresher.
A bit telling: The audience -- all Democrats, of course -- chuckles approvingly when Kerry brands our troops uneducated morons.
Delicious: Kerry is now lying, of course. Which is just perfect. He cannot admit what he said, he cannot apologize for it. It's too big.
Sort of like Mel Gibson, in a way. Who did in fact apologize, but in a "that wasn't me" sort of way.
That keeps this a live issue. He must deny, deny, deny and claim he's actually defending the honor of the troops from chickenhawks by calling the troops morons.
Well, that's actually not what he's saying. He lies, flagrantly, and claims he was talking about President Bush.
Let's follow his quote-- and see how it fits with this claim.
You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you dont, you get stuck in Iraq.
Talking about President Bush? So this was actually a warning that if kids didn't get smart and educated, they would end up in the dead-end burger-flipping job of the President of the United States of America, and then, owing to the fact that they're stupid and uneducated (but apparently smart and educated enough to be elected President, something only 40 or so men in our country's history have managed) then get "stuck in Iraq" by unilaterally attacking a sovereign nation without the help of our "historic allies."
So that's what he's claiming he meant -- Kids, stay in school, or else you'll just wind up being elected President, and you'll then get us involved in a diificult war with insurgents.
Yeah.
The old "study hard or you'll end up President" motivational speech. If I heard it once in high school, I heard it a thousand times.
Speaking of Motivation... A motivational poster from RobG.
Don't Question His Patriotism: Not only did John Kerry just, um, Swift-Boat every man in uniform in the American armed forces, he basically urged young people to avoid military service at all costs.
Sort of like he tried to do, until his number was up, and he got himself put into a part of the Navy he thought would not be involved in combat in Vietnam.
And then he phonied up some fingernail-scratch "wounds" to get unearned Purple Hearts and get his rich boy ass back stateside ASAP.
Ladies and Gentleman -- your once and future (?) Democratic candidate for Presdident of the United States -- bravely, smartly, toughly doing his best to undermine miitary recruitment in a time of war.
Bravo, Democrats. Bravo.
Bonus: Self-style "truth tellers" (read: leftist pricks) like Billl Maher and Richard Belzer will feel compelled to say, "The only thing John Kerry did wrong was lie about what he said. It is true that the armed forces are a dead-end career for anyone else but the less-than-brilliant and uneducated, though I do understand thare are some racist Christian Southerners who join up so they can kill brown people without being jailed for murder."
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There is enough work here for an entire staff of psychiatrists.
From his website:
October 31, 2006
Statement of John Kerry Responding to Republican Distortions, Pathetic Tony Snow Diversions and Distractions
Washington – Senator John Kerry issued the following statement in response to White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, assorted right wing nut-jobs, and right wing talk show hosts desperately distorting Kerry’s comments about President Bush to divert attention from their disastrous record:
“If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.
I’m not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.
The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.
Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they’re afraid to debate real men. And this time it won’t work because we’re going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq.”
Posted by: Joe Mama at October 31, 2006 10:30 AM (5WEQS)
Posted by: JM at October 31, 2006 10:31 AM (5WEQS)
Posted by: SJR2 at October 31, 2006 10:35 AM (QOe2n)
Posted by: SJR2 at October 31, 2006 10:36 AM (QOe2n)
rehashes exactly his written statement.
Stupid, wrong, and unimaginative.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 10:39 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 10:39 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: SJR2 at October 31, 2006 10:40 AM (QOe2n)
Fucker.
Comparing Iraq to Vietnam again.
"No one should question me."
"I'm sick and tired."
Then why make the joke in the first place, asshole.
No one is lying about you -- you said it.
Strawmen? Republicans cut and run?
What an idiot.
Posted by: mesablue at October 31, 2006 10:40 AM (DzeyU)
Posted by: SJR2 at October 31, 2006 10:41 AM (QOe2n)
Aren't you repeating EXACTLY your written statement?
Aren't you the one saying that they won't debate, when you are whining and blaming them for something that YOU FUCKING SAID!
"sideline issues" like a derision of the troops, you "fought" so hard, while tossing your seed around washington? Other than Gary condit, isn't Kerry one of the most infamous "swordsmen" in washington?
Those who didn't study it properly, but YOU VOTED FOR IT!!
I could totaly live play this shit for every second, but I don't wanna vomit in the kids candy.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 10:42 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: Vyce at October 31, 2006 10:42 AM (nEOKu)
How in the fuck does Kerry think that his words were taken incorrectly? The piece of shit, said what he said.
And I wouldn't be so quick to talk about failures John.
Posted by: SJR2 at October 31, 2006 10:43 AM (QOe2n)
Bring up one real issue for debate and it will happen.
"This is what makes real Americans sick".
You got that right bozo.
There is just so much here to use -- moonbats are loving this -- every dem running for office is going into damage control spin right now.
Thank you Mr. Kerry, you may have just delivered the election to us.
Posted by: mesablue at October 31, 2006 10:44 AM (DzeyU)
Posted by: John F Kerry at October 31, 2006 10:45 AM (Zaws8)
Posted by: SJR2 at October 31, 2006 10:45 AM (QOe2n)
My friend said to me, that whenever you walk into the principles office, or you are before a judge, get Angry, and offended and blame them. Say it is THERE fault that things got so bad, "I'm willing to take my punishment, but if you hadn't ignored it for so long, it wouldn't be so harsh!" shit like that.
He called it "its you not me" defense.
Kerry is performing the perfect "Its you not me" defense right now, especially since the reporters applied ponds to their face already to make it easy to clean off the seed that kerry is gonna spurt in their faces.
They prolly have autographed handkerchiefs, so that they can save it for the grandchildren.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 10:47 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: jack at October 31, 2006 10:47 AM (N1mNl)
"senator kerry, you were tossing medals over fences while i was being tortured in hanoi."
"senator kerry, you were in french finishing school when i was being shot down by soviet ammunition."
granted i despise mccain, but not for his military service, and he might as well make himself useful.
btw ace good job with this... i knew there was something wrong with his excuse but i couldn't articulate it. high five.
Posted by: jdubious at October 31, 2006 10:48 AM (G7s9a)
Posted by: spurwing plover at October 31, 2006 10:49 AM (EPfmS)
Posted by: SJR2 at October 31, 2006 10:49 AM (QOe2n)
So this was actually a warning that if kids didn't get smart and educated, they would end up in the dead-end burger-flipping job of the President of the United States of America.... then get "stuck in Iraq"
Actually Ace, I think that's exactly what he meant. Not a smart man.
I think he meant it in an 'if you take education seriously you won't end up making disastrous mistakes' kind of way, but couldn't resist throwing in a dig at Bush (which as you correctly note invalidates the entire intended meaning of his little statement).
He contradicted himself and rendered his own statements meaningless all the time on the campaign trail, remember?
Not a smart man.
Posted by: lauraw at October 31, 2006 10:50 AM (5BR/z)
Posted by: CUS at October 31, 2006 10:51 AM (bbXZq)
which itself, I guess was a bit of catbackwalking from the Dick Durbin "fuckit, they're nazis."
Posted by: jdubious at October 31, 2006 10:51 AM (G7s9a)
Kerry has denigrated the Iraq Policy based on the "daddy complex" that jr supposedly has.
Kerry attacked GHWB, lets see WWII vet, pilot who bailed after being shot down over enemy territory, and was able to rejoin his unit military hero, president GHWB. Lets get HIS opinion.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 10:51 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: jdubious at October 31, 2006 10:54 AM (G7s9a)
Yeah buddy, I think we all know what you meant, scumbag!
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at October 31, 2006 10:54 AM (3nKvy)
Posted by spurwing plover
One of the only books that NEVER leaves my small display shelf next to my computer. I rotate my sci-fi and other paperbacks, as I read, and re-read them, but that book and "The NYT Guid to Essential Knowledge" never leave my nearby bookshelf.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 10:55 AM (QTv8u)
"I'm sick and tired of being accused of saying that I actually said."
"Those damn Republicans keep repeating things that I say."
Posted by: mesablue at October 31, 2006 10:57 AM (DzeyU)
Posted by: Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF at October 31, 2006 10:57 AM (sI5FT)
Goddamn that Rove is some kind of diabolical genius.
Posted by: AFKAF at October 31, 2006 10:58 AM (DXjVU)
Posted by: mesablue at October 31, 2006 10:59 AM (DzeyU)
I'm willing to bet that Rove had to be hospitalized this afternoon for an erection that lasted more than four hours.
Posted by: lauraw at October 31, 2006 11:01 AM (5BR/z)
And four doctors were injured trying to tame the beast.
Posted by: mesablue at October 31, 2006 11:02 AM (DzeyU)
Posted by: Forrest Gump at October 31, 2006 11:06 AM (MTu19)
Posted by lauraw
I can relate, I'm thinking about just leaving the bowl of candy on the step, so that I don't frighten the kids, or more significantly, their parents.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 11:06 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: Mitch at October 31, 2006 11:08 AM (GxvWl)
Sort of like he tried to do, until his number was up, and he got
himself put into a part of the Navy he thought would not be involved in
combat in Iraq.
Should read Vietnam.
John Kerry is a fucking retard. It amazes me that there are still people today who think he is smarter than George Bush.
Posted by: John Kerry at October 31, 2006 11:09 AM (s7Ian)
How in the fuck does Kerry think that his words were taken incorrectly? The piece of shit, said what he said.
Now, I think Kerry is as stupid as the next guy, but would someone please show me anywhere in his gaffe or in the surrounding statements where he uses the words "troops" or "soldiers." You can't. lauraw is correct when she said:
Actually Ace, I think that's exactly what he meant. Not a smart man.
From the first minute I read the statement and well before the denails and counter-denials starting flying around, I commented at Hot Air that Kerry was speaking about the President.
While his comments about the President are bad enough, I think we have added words and decided on our own meaning of his statements without actually thinking about any alternatives. We ascribed the worst possible scenario to the words without proper foundation.
We routinely criticize the Left® for questioning the timing, i.e., coming up with wild theories for events that could just as easily have been something totally different.
Isn't that what we have done here?
Posted by: Steve L. at October 31, 2006 11:10 AM (hpZf2)
Posted by: Form 180 at October 31, 2006 11:10 AM (s7Ian)
Kerry has said that he may have used a poor choice of words when he cited other veterans' reports of atrocities as being "in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan."
sanfranchron oct 17 2004:
Kerry said that war crimes committed by the American military in Southeast Asia were "not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command." -snip-
They told the stories of times they had personally raped, cut off ears, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks and generally ravaged the countryside of Vietnam," he said. -snip-
The Winter Soldier investigation, which was financed in part by actress Jane Fonda, was controversial. Charges abounded that many of those who showed up to tell their stories falsified their identities or their experiences.
find his entire revolting testimony at
http://www.richmond.edu/~ebolt/history398/JohnKerryTestimony.html
Posted by: jdubious at October 31, 2006 11:11 AM (G7s9a)
Posted by: jj at October 31, 2006 11:13 AM (Hf5gS)
Posted by: eman at October 31, 2006 11:13 AM (FWrFx)
It's not telling an entire nation that what they saw and heard wasn't what they just saw and heard.
If the Republicans hang on next week it will once again be in no small part to the abject stupidity of the Democrats led by the like John "Gheghis Kahn" Kerry.
Posted by: Drew at October 31, 2006 11:13 AM (Y2fNF)
They've got the Spin-Machinetm runnin' Full-Tilt-Boogie !
"We're gonna' hold REPUBLICANS responsible for what comes out of Johnnie-the-Commie's idiotiotic mouth !"
Good Luck wit' dat'
Posted by: franksalterego at October 31, 2006 11:14 AM (V4sdo)
Posted by: jdubious at October 31, 2006 11:15 AM (G7s9a)
SteveL
I suggest you take that back about the next guy, cuz I happen to be in a situation where there is a guy next to me, and he isn't nearly as stupid as Kerry, and we are standing in line for our run at the local glory hole.
Kerry is MUCH "dumber" as he used "smart" than the next guy, it just so happens in this case, the next guy is a 2 toofed yale grad standing at a glory hole, imagining that it's monica.
The Next guy is MUCH smarter than Kerry.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 11:15 AM (QTv8u)
We have no historic allies other than the allies who joined with our coalition. Many are called, but few are chosen. Better to have just a few good friends than a pack of traitorous saboteurs.
Posted by: Lynn at October 31, 2006 11:16 AM (sy4fd)
Posted by: bill at October 31, 2006 11:16 AM (7evkT)
If anyone is a dumbass, it's John Kerry. Does Rove have electrodes planted in Kerry's brain that can make Kerry hop around like a demented puppet? This is friggin unbeliveable.
Posted by: Joe at October 31, 2006 11:17 AM (+GRGs)
Posted by: Mikey NTH at October 31, 2006 11:18 AM (O9Cc8)
Kerry Flip-Flopping again - what a sueprise! Say one thing one day and say the opposite thing another day. Kerry is nothing but the front man for a FLIP-FLOPPING Dhimmicrats.
Posted by: Daniel at October 31, 2006 11:21 AM (AMccd)
Posted by: Bart at October 31, 2006 11:23 AM (Zaws8)
The man has the political instincts of a brick.
Posted by: Slublog at October 31, 2006 11:23 AM (R8+nJ)
1) the obvious one, that we all hate, and I still think kerry insulted the troops, while trying to offend the president even more.
2) If you study hard you won't be like Bush, (the "intended" target of this insult)
Now, let me break this down a little bit, I will focus first on the second.
"If you study hard you won't be like bush" lets assume right now that that was the intended target and insult. So If you are smart, you can never become THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FUCKING STATES OF AMERICA!
So with that insult, he thinks he's insulting just George W. Bush the man, but George W. Bush, I don't know if kerry noticed during his embarassing loss, trying to overthrow not just the electoral system, but also the popular vote, he's Al Gore^2 when it comes to sore loserdom. When actually he is insulting approximately 51.2% of the nation by saying only stupid people would vote for a stupid president.
now, second, in relation to the first.
The military is stupid.
There is no way to spin this properly.
51.2% of the nation is stupid, or the military is stupid both of them are stupid for the same reasons, because George W. Bush, is The President of The United States of America.
Thats not spin on my part, that is a CLEAR +/- comparisson of the arguments that have been offered by JUST John Fing Kerry.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 11:23 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: SJR2 at October 31, 2006 11:23 AM (QOe2n)
Hannity and Colmes should be fun tonight.
Dem bigshots must be royally pissed-off at Lurch for taking the Dems of message and for giving the Pubs a chance to redo 2004.
Kerry truly is the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: eman at October 31, 2006 11:26 AM (FWrFx)
Of course, he won't be in stasis during the transit to Jupiter, he will be working in his mentat pak like brain "trying" to figure out how to make scryth, and impossibilium, but we all know he can do that during the accelleration needed to achieve escape velocity.
He will spend the rest of the time, trying to figure out how to convince John Kerry, John Edwards Barrack Obama and Harold Ford to serve his purposes in late october of 2010 to create a republican autocracy over the US.
I think thats the real goal of Rove's Ringworld mission.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 11:29 AM (QTv8u)
Also, E-man, only evil republicans and joos use layers, the democrats are saintly in the apparent honesty.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 11:32 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 11:32 AM (QTv8u)
Yea, he's obviously referring to the Peoria garden club.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 31, 2006 11:32 AM (AuPsg)
Posted by: Dudley Smith at October 31, 2006 11:37 AM (0S8Xt)
Don't get LauraW started on how much sand needs to be in your soil mixture.
I think LauraW is behind the Iraq war, because the "Big Window Cactus" corporations needed more sand for their soil mixtures.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 31, 2006 11:39 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: at October 31, 2006 11:42 AM (Hj9yW)
According to a sory currently on the CNN Web site...
Kerry was supposed to say, "I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq."
Appearantly the speach-writer who put this together Jean Francios Kerry was unaware that Keery's GPA at Yale was 2 points lower than his contemporary there... George W. Bush!
Either way, Kerry loses. Either he is unbeleivably insulting to our troops, or to himself.
Yep, this is the best the Dems could come up with in 2004.
Posted by: Blue in Manhattan at October 31, 2006 11:42 AM (hnh2F)
Posted by: David at October 31, 2006 11:42 AM (Hj9yW)
Posted by: Blue in Manhattan at October 31, 2006 11:49 AM (hnh2F)
John Kerry - 5/28/06 NYT
Posted by: mrp at October 31, 2006 11:57 AM (WYeCX)
Now I've heard his 'explaination' of his statement. That man has the political IQ of a bag of rabbit turds.
Howard Dean is probably on oxygen right about now; Hillary is probably lurking in a dark corner waiting to suck his brains out (what little he possesses...); Rove laughed so hard...he had to get his ribs taped.
Kerry is living proof that the only sure cure for stupidity is death.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 31, 2006 12:02 PM (zYHNj)
Posted by: Secret Service Guy Knocked Over By Kerry Skiing at October 31, 2006 12:10 PM (MxCQM)
Posted by: David at October 31, 2006 12:18 PM (Hj9yW)
Posted by: mesablue at October 31, 2006 12:20 PM (DzeyU)
Posted by: Meramid at October 31, 2006 12:24 PM (8a5kv)
Or, we could simply assume that Kerry is a fucking retard. Which he's demonstrated on many previous occasions.
I wonder what Tah-RAY-zuh is thinking of Hubby's little meltdown? Probably wondering why she ever married the dork in the first place.
Posted by: Brown Line at October 31, 2006 12:39 PM (NTThf)
This is one time when Howard Dean is probably high-fiving his staff and saying, "And they said that I was an anchor for the Democrats! "
Posted by: physics geek at October 31, 2006 01:00 PM (KqeHJ)
Posted by: Sweetie at October 31, 2006 01:32 PM (lXpPq)
Let's break this down to what it is. Senator John Kerry is either a liar or an idiot, or both. He's just proven it, in spades. And the reason that I'm paying any attention to this nonsense at all, is glaringly simple;
The words of John Kerry, both today and as a matter of history, are emblematic of what the Democrats have become in the last couple of decades. And that was made perfectly clear by the response he got from a friendly audience yesterday morning. What you see in that ugly line up above, is what the Democrats are.
That he now lies and squirms tells us all we need know about the man, and the party that supports him. Keep that in mind, when you go into the voting booth.
As for Mr. Kerry, I'm not in the least interested in an apology from him. What I want, and what the American people deserve, is his resignation.
Oh, I know... fat chance... the guy doesn't contain nearly enough integrity to do so. But, there it is, for all to see.
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