September 18, 2008

Joe Biden: Christianist!
— DrewM

Earlier today Biden said it would be patriotic for the rich to pay more taxes. Later today he expanded on that concept by saying not only are higher taxes patriotic but also good religion.

“Catholic social doctrine as I was taught it is, you take care of people who need the help the most,” he said. “Now it'd be different if you could make the case to me that by giving this tax cut to the very wealthy, everybody else was going to be better off. We saw what happened the last eight years when we gave that tax cut."

Let’s pause for a moment to consider the gobsmacking outrage that would ring from every corner of the MSM and the left (redundancy alert!) if say, oh I don’t know, noted Christian Sarah Palin argued that her tax proposals were based on her church’s teachings.

Not let’s consider how much actual gnashing of teeth there will be in this case…zero.

It's almost as if there's a bias in the media or something that explains the different coverage Democrats/liberals get versus that of Republicans and conservatives. Who knew?

Oh and now that Biden is so concerned about making public policy based on “Catholic social doctrine” does that mean he’s anti-abortion now?

Posted by: DrewM at 11:27 AM | Comments (52)
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1 How christian is it to give less than a percent of your six figure salary to charity?

Posted by: bigun at September 18, 2008 11:29 AM (uHRYR)

2 He also LOVES! Football.  I don't think anyone loves football as much as he and his wife do.  Big Fan!  HUGE FAN!

Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 18, 2008 11:30 AM (ul7te)

3 "Catholic social doctrine as I was taught it is, you take care of people who need the help the most".

Exactly. Like, you know, unborn babies...

Posted by: oy at September 18, 2008 11:32 AM (CnXv2)

4 Earlier today Biden said it would be patriotic for the rich to pay more taxes.

Is he questioning Charlie Rangel's patriotism?

Posted by: JayC at September 18, 2008 11:33 AM (3hZX3)

5 But of course Joe won't impose his religious beliefs on anyone... would he.


Posted by: MagicalPat at September 18, 2008 11:33 AM (O49GA)

6

Of course, Joe doesn't want poor people to be patriotic.  Or the middle class.

Just the wealthy.

That's the funny thing about analogies that suck.  They kinda, suck.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at September 18, 2008 11:34 AM (pzen5)

7 It's a total hypocrisy. This is why the separation of church and state as the Dems define it is such a fraud. They have no problems with the things "everyone" agrees on, such as socialism which is what this. The problem is they decide who "everyone" is.  It makes me especially sick that this comes principally from nominal Catholics.


Posted by: Rocks at September 18, 2008 11:34 AM (Q1lie)

8 God love ya, Joe, but what the hell are you talkin' about?

Posted by: jaleach at September 18, 2008 11:34 AM (gHrZU)

9

I was involved in a debate on another blog (that shall not be named) about who the stupidest man in the Senate is.  I staunchly defended my position that it is Chuck Schumer.  I had facts!  I had quotes!  I had all the information I needed to prove that, indeed, Schumer is the biggest dolt in the Senate. 

I now concede my defeat at the hands of the Bidenists.  Please accept my abject apology.

Posted by: huerfano at September 18, 2008 11:35 AM (knHvu)

10 Scrolling down through the linked article.  What an IDIOT.


“It’s not just Sarah Palin,” he said. “When’s the last time John’s had a press conference? I’m serious! … When an elected officials stops holding press conferences, it ain’t because he’s found a new way to communicate, it’s because he doesn’t want to communicate.”

Though Biden has done his share of interviews – by one count over 80 – he has not himself held more than two solo press conferences, and none in nearly two weeks. His first solo press conference was in Pittsburgh on Sept. 1, and was very brief, as he explained his decision to cancel an appearance in the city’s Labor Day parade. He did speak with reporters aboard his campaign plane on Sept. 7 for over a half hour."


Posted by: GulfCoastBamaFan at September 18, 2008 11:38 AM (ykqBW)

11 Jesus was a tax & spend liberal.

Posted by: Bart at September 18, 2008 11:41 AM (w3NmV)

12 I just knew this had to come from MSNBC, don't they have the last reporter still covering Biden?

Posted by: Rocks at September 18, 2008 11:41 AM (Q1lie)

13

So him and Obama are on on mission from God?

I hope there's a musical number with Aretha Franklin and a huge car crash along the way.

He's going to look awful funny trying to eat corn-on-the-cob with no fucking teeth.  Where's Tucker McElroy when you need him.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 18, 2008 11:42 AM (4ZOxD)

14 I must have missed the CCD class where we went over the part of the Gospel where Christ told Peter to make sure he gave all money to Rome to make sure the poor were taken care of. I only got to the part about being personally responsible, not to the steal from my betters and hire thugs to do my charity part. I am glad Bishops Biden and Pelosi are around to set us all straight.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at September 18, 2008 11:44 AM (TPRbZ)

15 Joe, Joe, Joe.

Just shut the hell up.

-A Catholic

P.S. The Catholic Church, in no uncertain terms, condemns socialism, Marxism, and communism.  Do yourself a favor - before you utter the word "Catholic" again, get a Catechism and read it.

Posted by: Cathy in Chicago at September 18, 2008 11:45 AM (3xgoE)

16 Robbing Peter through taxation to pay Paul does not make you virtuous.

Posted by: Matt at September 18, 2008 11:46 AM (ecpMe)

17 Its the moral duty of every citizen to keep the government beast as lean as possible

Posted by: Stuff Thomas Jerfferson Said, Vol III page 247 at September 18, 2008 11:47 AM (evdj2)

18 So if it is more patriotic to pay higher taxes and Charles Rangel is skipping paying taxes.... can we question his patriotism?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2008 11:47 AM (0+Ggj)

19 Last time I checked, Catholics support charity; not socialism.

Someone needs to explain this to Joe "less than 1%" Biden.

Posted by: Damiano at September 18, 2008 11:50 AM (aSQmq)

20 http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTZiY2EyNjllZmI3MjBiODdiM2ViNjc5ZmYxNjI1Zjg= Here's your link Damiano.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at September 18, 2008 11:51 AM (TPRbZ)

21 So when does the Vatican-Tithe Tax Amendment come to a vote, exactly? Does it have faith-based riders attached to it?

Jesus Sweet Christ, was the Obama ticket the first-half-black man/fully retarded man diversity pick or what?

Posted by: Vercingetorix at September 18, 2008 11:52 AM (N8eC4)

22

As a Catholic, I am sickened.  This is obscene. 

Posted by: kevlarchick at September 18, 2008 11:55 AM (TNuqz)

23 "Any system that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul"
St. P.J. O'Rourke

Posted by: conservative rebel: sign up for your nearest 5K walk to fight terrorism at September 18, 2008 11:57 AM (T4dLI)

24 Biden, change you can believe in, especially if it goes to him.

Posted by: Penfold at September 18, 2008 11:58 AM (lF2Kk)

25 Joe Biden is going to be this year's winner of the "John Hagee Award" as the most effective spreader of misinformation about the Roman Catholic Church. God Bless Him, and pass the matches.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at September 18, 2008 12:01 PM (TPRbZ)

26 The Bible according to Democrats: sell everything someone else has and give to the poor.


Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at September 18, 2008 12:05 PM (E3Yxq)

27 The Ten Commandments According To Joe Biden:

1)  Tax

2)  Spend

Ahhh, I forget the other eight.

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 18, 2008 12:06 PM (DVVXZ)

28

"Any system that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul"

And Chris Dodd.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 18, 2008 12:06 PM (B+qrE)

29 I'll sleep better tonight knowing that 30 years of my charitable tax donations went to the betterment of Joe's chicklets and receding scalp line.

Posted by: Fritz at September 18, 2008 12:08 PM (zAvxs)

30 The Boston Tea Party - not just unpatriotic, utterly blasphmous.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 18, 2008 12:30 PM (4ZOxD)

31 No wonder democrats are so confused. They keep saying "give a tax cut" which really just means "taking less." So they think they are GIVING us our own money!

Thanks, Joe. Glad to know you from the Janet Reno School of Constitutional Thought which makes the claim that the U.S. gives its citizens more rights than any other country in the world. When I read it, I was under the misguided impression that my Creator gives me my rights and governments are instituted to protect them.

It's good to have that cleared up. I will get myself to a re-education camp, stat.

Posted by: w3bgrrl at September 18, 2008 12:38 PM (++F+m)

32 In Catholic social teaching we are called to care for the poor, which is primarily accomplished by charitable service and giving alms...not by paying our taxes.  April 15th is a whole different subject. Interestingly, from his tax returns, Joe is an absolute skinflint in charitable giving, parting with only a small percent of 1 percent percentage of his wealth.  God love him, but Joe operates with the catechesis of an immature adolescent.

Posted by: marybel at September 18, 2008 12:50 PM (e+2Jh)

33 They said when Bush Obama/Biden was elected the USA would become a theocracy.

Posted by: SilentMoron at September 18, 2008 12:59 PM (Ki3Ag)

34

Biden is so completely clueless about the Catholic faith it's embarassing.

 

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at September 18, 2008 01:00 PM (NWJMC)

35

Where's the patriotism in being involuntarily forced to pay more money to the government?  Patriotism is a virtue.  Where's the virtue being forced to choose between paying more and going to jail?

OBAMA BIN BIDEN  - that's what you get if you take two OBAMA BIDEN signs and snip off the BI and the N from one sign and add them to the other.  Every time I see an OBAMA BIDEN sign, I think OBAMA BIN BIDEN because they'll be about as beneficial to the country as 9/11 was.

Oh, and while I don't believe that Obama is a Muslim now, I wouldn't be surprised if he chose to convert to Islam after the election.  You know, so that he could follow the faith of his father and all that.

Posted by: Chas at September 18, 2008 01:05 PM (tf4qU)

36 34

Biden is so completely clueless about the Catholic faith it's embarassing.

That is entirely false.  He is a staunch and deeply-committed Catholic.  Just like me.

 

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at September 18, 2008 01:06 PM (wgLRl)

37 I think Joe might be questioning Al Franken's patriotism along with Rangel's.

Posted by: Chemcat at September 18, 2008 01:10 PM (y0YyR)

38 I have no doubt that Joe Biden is every bit as much a good Christian as Margaret Cho.

Jesus was a tax & spend liberal.

...and Pontius Pilate was a trickle down supply side economist, naturally

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 18, 2008 01:52 PM (0+Ggj)

39 God love ya, Joe, but what the hell are you talkin' about?

I think we can safely post that after every statement he makes.


Posted by: alexthechick at September 18, 2008 01:58 PM (yUzb2)

40

"Now it'd be different if you could make the case to me that by giving this tax cut to the very wealthy, everybody else was going to be better off. "

Wow, really Joe? Here you go, for a start. Give a tax cut to the very wealthy, and they use that money to invest in new businesses (creating jobs, which makes everybody else better off) or to grow their own businesses (creating jobs, which makes everybody else better off). Not having run an actual business and therefore not understanding the need for startup capital, nor the desire to make it grow, I guess you wouldn't understand.

Heck, even if the "very wealthy" are selfish SOBs and spend all that extra money on themselves, guess what, that means the companies lucky enough to get their business can grow, thus creating jobs, thus making everybody else better off.

 

 

 

Posted by: Average Jen at September 18, 2008 02:12 PM (OINAg)

41

Joe,

Does this mean you're going to slash the tax rate to 10%? That's all the Lord asks for.

Posted by: turtle at September 18, 2008 02:53 PM (ZiZaA)

42 Drew, I don't think you are allowed to use the word 'gobsmackingly' without a mention of 'vile'.

Just an FYI

Posted by: Kevin at September 18, 2008 03:10 PM (KO6dP)

43

According to the DNC-V, Jesus sent his disciples out to TAKE money from the rich and give it to the poor.

 ... 

And stop going off on Biden for the amount of money he puts in the collection plate -- he gave at the orafice. 

Posted by: Steve O at September 18, 2008 04:04 PM (z7c3k)

44

Charity begins at home.

Maybe it's just me, but I get the feeling that Biden couldn't give a rat's ass if Obama wins.

I think it just might be possible that he sees him now in precisely the same light as he did before; an inexperienced, unworthy, D.C. carpetbagger. I suspect he has seen quite enough of the way that Hillary was treated and has now been privy to the inner-workings to see how old-timer McCain has been treated. The Washington insiders seem to be a bit like a club and Obama has stormed the front gate in a trojan horse made from hope and change whilst he sends the barbarians around and through the backgate to slit the throats of the guards while they're distracted by the shiny, new pony out front.

Biden will keep on keeping on regardless of whether BHO wins or loses.

Of course, then again, Biden is about 30% bullshit himself, so, ya know...

Posted by: jmflynny at September 18, 2008 04:14 PM (byGAg)

45 DiT-

Of course, Joe doesn't want poor people to be patriotic.  Or the middle class.

Imagine...  the bottom 40% of taxpayers are so UNpatriotic that they currently do not pay a single dollar of Fed Income Tax- and Obama also wants to give them a larger "refund" (expanded EITC/"deductions")...   wouldn't that only make them even less "patriotic" than they are now?

Might we finally be able to "question their patriotism"?

Warren Buffet paid his accountants $millions to insure he took every deduction available when deciding upon his contribution to the Gates' "tax shelter" Foundation.  I'll actually believe Warren wants higher taxes on the rich when he starts writing $100 million checks straight to the Treasury.  Until then, he just wants somebody else to pay more taxes...

Posted by: Fletch at September 18, 2008 05:37 PM (v3VY2)

46 Participating in compelled charity curries large favor with Yaweh.

Posted by: Jazz at September 18, 2008 07:42 PM (vokjx)

47 My admittedly poor recollection of biblical studies is that the apostle Matthew was a tax collector by trade. If I'm not mistaken, he quit collecting taxes when he decided to follow Jesus.

Posted by: Jazz at September 18, 2008 08:01 PM (ixS1u)

48 Oh and now that Biden is so concerned about making public policy based on “Catholic social doctrine” does that mean he’s anti-abortion now? Apparently. And he must have been asleep when the priest reminded the parishoners that they need to make sure they're properly tithing. Even at 10%, Good Ol' Joe should have been donating a lot more than $3,000...just saying, Joe...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 19, 2008 04:27 AM (1hM1d)

49 It's patriotic and religious to pay taxes.  What a joke.  Biden is such an idiot.  This is pure and simple redistribution of wealth.  It's Marxism no matter how you try to dress it up.

Posted by: Keith at September 19, 2008 04:45 AM (sz0to)

50 Joe Biden a tax and spend brainless liberal demacreep whats become of his brain latetly?

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51

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