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July 26, 2008

If It's Saturday, the Least-Read News Day of the Week, It Must Be Time for AP to Admit the Surge Has Worked Spectacularly
— Ace

Once again, it turns out that a story that could have been written at any time over the past six months is only ready for printing on a Saturday.

Funny how it always works out like that.

Analysis: US now winning Iraq war that seemed lost
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Limited, sometimes sharp fighting and periodic terrorist bombings in Iraq are likely to continue, possibly for years. But the Iraqi government and the U.S. now are able to shift focus from mainly combat to mainly building the fragile beginnings of peace a transition that many found almost unthinkable as recently as one year ago.
Despite the occasional bursts of violence, Iraq has reached the point where the insurgents, who once controlled whole cities, no longer have the clout to threaten the viability of the central government.
That does not mean the war has ended or that U.S. troops have no role in Iraq. It means the combat phase finally is ending, years past the time when President Bush optimistically declared it had. The new phase focuses on training the Iraqi army and police, restraining the flow of illicit weaponry from Iran, supporting closer links between Baghdad and local governments, pushing the integration of former insurgents into legitimate government jobs and assisting in rebuilding the economy.
Scattered battles go on, especially against al-Qaida holdouts north of Baghdad. But organized resistance, with the steady drumbeat of bombings, kidnappings, assassinations and ambushes that once rocked the capital daily, has all but ceased.
This amounts to more than a lull in the violence. It reflects a fundamental shift in the outlook for the Sunni minority, which held power under Saddam Hussein. They launched the insurgency five years ago. They now are either sidelined or have switched sides to cooperate with the Americans in return for money and political support.

Also, there were no US casualties in Iraq this past week. (Knock wood.)

Meanwhile, it remains NBCNews official, carefully-considered, expert-informed opinion that Iraq is in a state of Civil War.

Note the MSNBC's correspendent's prognosis -- the fact the NBC, and soon the MSM, would call the situation in Iraq a "civil war" would have a great political impact, and would increase the urgency for a withdrawal.

Funny how NBC isn't able to make these "gutsy" semantic decisions when the political impact might run in the opposite direction.

Insiders expect NBC to revisit this carefully-considered, expert-informed opinion two hours after Barack Obama wins the presidency.

If he doesn't win -- the Civil War rages on, baby!

Posted by: Ace at 10:59 AM | Comments (122)
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1 The only place we'll lose that war or any other war is in Washington DC, with the likes of Fat Jack Murtha and Harry the Weasel and Cruella DeNasty.

Posted by: Enough Already at July 26, 2008 11:04 AM (GGhvX)

2 When you are about to lose a war, and you want to turn things around and win it instead, just ask yourself "What would Obama do?" - then do the opposite.

BTW, this rule of thumb is not limited to war.

Posted by: eman at July 26, 2008 11:07 AM (bXWSG)

Now, can we roll tanks into Mexico and do the same thing.....

Pretty soon, all that will be left there is drug kingpins and corrupt polititians that own all the Oil wells.

This time, though, we get to pump their oil and sell it to pay for it

Posted by: bob hussein dole at July 26, 2008 11:12 AM (4GS1g)

4 Isn't that guy some kind of sports caster?

Posted by: Vince at July 26, 2008 11:29 AM (/HJcf)

5 This is the finger I get it wrong with.

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at July 26, 2008 11:30 AM (JBuzy)

6 What a dick!

Posted by: Z as in Jersey at July 26, 2008 11:37 AM (pUADR)

7 Fuck, I hate NBC

Posted by: phillipe at July 26, 2008 11:48 AM (Dvr/3)

8 So basically it's years of reports about how the we're getting our asses kicked by al-queda, al-sadr and then one Saturday afternoon a story appears "we won". I hate to be super conspiracy minded but it looks to me like the libs have decided that declaring the war over benefits Captain Bullshit so badda bing it's over we won.

Posted by: Big E at July 26, 2008 11:49 AM (RWzXM)

9 AP, Olberman, and the rest are all cocksuckers. No offense to those who don't do it for profit.

Posted by: mare at July 26, 2008 11:52 AM (xMkst)

10 "Thanks, Nancy!" in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ...

Posted by: VRWC Agent at July 26, 2008 11:53 AM (Z3AmO)

11 I know! Next they'll reporting on how fat people only have 8% body fat!!1

Posted by: Sir Jackasparus Magpie Greencastle at July 26, 2008 11:59 AM (aRRWd)

12 That video is more than a year and a half old.....bravo.

Posted by: Ace's Lovehandles at July 26, 2008 12:06 PM (aRRWd)

That video is more than a year and a half old

Word. And still no retraction.

Posted by: toby timetraveler 928 at July 26, 2008 12:24 PM (evdj2)

BULLSHIT!!!!! MORE CHIMPY, CHAINEY, ROVE HALLIBIRTIN LIES!!!!1

Ive been slamming my pink meat since yesterday now that Dennis will impeach Resident Bush, Chainey and Rove!

PRESIDENT PELOSI WILL GREET PRESIDENT BARACK IN THE (NO LONGER) WHITE HOUSE! WAR WILL BE BANNED - FOREVER!!!!!!

Posted by: kayinmaine at July 26, 2008 12:27 PM (J4MLB)

kayinmaine

Oh lord. Where are the annointed when you need them?

Posted by: toby timetraveler 928 at July 26, 2008 12:30 PM (evdj2)

16 No sectarian killing for two months, no soldier dead in a week... If things keep getting better Iraq could be laughing at its neighbors in a decade while they prosper under democracy and liassez faire. More people might start immigrating from Iran, wouldn't that be rich.

Posted by: Idiocy at July 26, 2008 12:49 PM (vjl9g)

17 This is just the prelim for the MSM to go into the "it's the economy, stupid" mode between now and November, where they'll trumpet every bit of perceived doom and gloom regarding the domestic economy as totally the fault of Bushitlerburtonstein and that McSame will provide no needed change in course. Nowhere will Lolapelosi or Les Nessman Reid figure in being at all responsible for whatever conditions will subsequently develop, whether they're reported honestly or not. Unless there's a major bump up of terrorism, the war on it will quickly go to the anciet history bin and voters will say "What have you done for me lately?" It's nothing new; the Brits tossed Churchill post-WW2.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 26, 2008 12:51 PM (eP9wS)

That video is more than a year and a half old

Word. And still no retraction.

Touché

Posted by: Ace's Lovehandles at July 26, 2008 01:57 PM (aRRWd)

19 "It means the combat phase finally is ending, years past the time when President Bush optimistically declared it had." There are so many things wrong with that statement that I don't know where to start. "The new phase focuses on training the Iraqi army and police" They're a bit late on that one, also. Why do they think that the Iraqi army is able to take over so many provinces? Think they might have been trained by Americans for several years now, already?

Posted by: notropis at July 26, 2008 01:58 PM (nNqMU)

20 BTW, loved Potosi Joel's analogy here. "the fire department didn't put out the fire, it was all that water that landed on your roof."

Posted by: notropis at July 26, 2008 02:02 PM (nNqMU)

21 Somebody a little over a year ago said that the plan was, "As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down." Must have been Obama...

Posted by: notropis at July 26, 2008 02:04 PM (nNqMU)

I liked how the AP analysis perpetuated not one but two lies: that Bush "declared Mission Accomplished" and that Bush said there would be no more combat.

The sad thing is, I don't think they even do it on purpose. They really are this biased.

Posted by: TallDave at July 26, 2008 02:43 PM (Tcmkh)

I refuse to click the video and ruin my Saturday. But I will observe that the cocksucker on the right looks like he is really enjoying delivering the tragic news that Iraq is in a civil war, and in a similar vein I would enjoy watching someone kick him in the groin. Very hard. Isn't that pretty much what NBC and most of the rest of the MSM has done to America and her brave military for the last 7 years?

I can't threaten to boycott NBC because I already do and have for a long time, but let's just say it will be a cold day in hell when I buy anything that says "GE" on it again, okay?

Posted by: sherlock at July 26, 2008 03:11 PM (xqzGc)

From Kay's "blog" (online primal scream therapy experiment) re: trolls:

"Its my blog. I dont have to read your filthy vile shit if I dont want to. Get it?"

Oh, the stupid is strong with this one.

Who wants to bet that if Ace sent her packing she'd scream "fascism".

Posted by: CavMedic at July 26, 2008 03:12 PM (rYFmu)

25 The AP is in the process of redefining "douchbaggery"

Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 26, 2008 03:26 PM (uhncL)

From the AP article: "...It means the combat phase finally is ending, years past the time when President Bush optimistically declared it had...."

I recall Bush saying that major combat operations were over, not that the combat phase as a whole was finished. Bush was referring to the invasion and mopping up. In that sense, he was correct.

Posted by: Pigilito at July 26, 2008 03:31 PM (nhBBi)

27 Eh. You lost me at "AP" It didn't have credibility before, it doesn't have it now.

Who the hell cares what it "reports" anymore? Sure, there's the news serving the masses component, and it's become rote to ridicule it's, um, nuance in gathering a story, but really. Except for noting its methodologic style, it's really to the point of just ignoring it.

It was dishonest before now. It doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt now either. It's an untrustworthy source. Period. End of story.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 26, 2008 03:33 PM (sI5Ho)

28 Olbermann is such an unctuous douchebag, he makes my ass hurt just looking at him. The absurd little clown drones on night after night, year after year declaring Bush an incurious dolt incapable of admitting a mistake. Hey Olbermann, how's my ass taste?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2008 03:40 PM (VBon8)

i like nambla better than olbermann.

Posted by: lone nut at July 26, 2008 03:41 PM (0kIDk)

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Posted by: Ace's Lovehandles at July 26, 2008 03:42 PM (aRRWd)

31 Wow, kayinmaine was serious. I thought it was a parody of lefty derangement. We really have no need for parodies of lefty derangement, do we?

Posted by: notropis at July 26, 2008 04:01 PM (nNqMU)

^^ YES

Posted by: phillipe at July 26, 2008 04:03 PM (Dvr/3)

33 RE: Colonel Jack Jacobs, Ret., military analyst for MSNBC

He said that "hundreds of thousands" of troops more were needed above and beyond what was already in theater. This is the type of analysis Rumsfeld was up against as SecDef in handling modern warfare.

Not a few thousand or few tens of thousands... hundreds of thousands with intervention into every crevice of the country.

That analysis was beyond mere suspect. It was spectacularly wrong. A small, focal bump in personnel with, and this was vital, an altering of ROE was what was necessary, not some Normandy invasion.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 26, 2008 04:09 PM (sI5Ho)

34 toby timetraveler 928,

RE: kayinmaine

I'm calling "shenanigans." Will the real kayinmaine, please stand up? Don't say anything mind you, just please be recognized.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 26, 2008 04:57 PM (sI5Ho)

35 McCain Backs Timeline to Get Obama Out of Iraq

Heh.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 26, 2008 05:32 PM (sI5Ho)

When Ronaldus Magnus was President all we heard about was the homeless people. During the Clinton years they disappeared. TWO DAYS after Bush won the election I heard a newz report about "The Homeless Problem".

The MSM will declare victory in Iraq during the second week of November.

Oh yeah- and the "recession" will madjikally end, with unemployment "Plunging" to around 5% and the GNP "skyrocketing" to about 3 or 4.

Yeah- that's right- I'm psychic. Print this and save it for later verification.

Posted by: Paul Moore at July 26, 2008 05:48 PM (lf14X)

37
When William Jefferson Clinton was President all we heard about was Beaver. Ironically, during the Bush years, they disappeared.

Posted by: grc at July 26, 2008 06:11 PM (Vh2CL)

Well, It seems the do-gooders have once again conquered babylon.

I have to get this news from NBC?

In november?

Because of bho's lill trip?

The dems fighting for us, in a big, bad, world?

The msm sucks. What a joke.

Power to the blogs..

So mete it be.

Posted by: Anton Hussein Levay at July 26, 2008 07:12 PM (DZFOc)

39 2nd comment (RedPepper) on AnonymousDrivel's link:

“Ich bin ein beginner !”

That's going to be too good not to steal.

Posted by: VRWC Agent at July 26, 2008 07:12 PM (Z3AmO)

40 FUCK EM! that is all. Wish I could be more esoteric, but words fail me. WHERE IS SPURWING PLOVER? Be safe and hunt well.

George

Posted by: George at July 26, 2008 08:03 PM (e9HVb)

41 Ace'a Lovehandles

Touche, you french fuck. How's that for Karma? This message brought to you by the DNC> DIE WELL AND, well shit, just die well dude!

Posted by: George at July 26, 2008 08:25 PM (e9HVb)

Big E: "the libs have decided that declaring the war over benefits Captain Bullshit so badda bing it's over we won"

As this sly sentence suggests: "The questions will take on greater importance as the U.S. presidential election nears, with one candidate pledging a troop withdrawal and the other insisting on staying."

Sure sounds to me like smoothing the way for Senator "I am right even when I'm wr- No, I can't say it, I can do no wr- ... I am right even when I'm right."

Posted by: Erwin Hussein O'Barry at July 26, 2008 08:43 PM (HU4xc)

How artfully Bush is airbrushed from this picture of success!

Who authorized the suddenly marvelous surge way back when it polled super badly? Who stuck to it when wiser heads (Barack Obama, for example) shook their heads at the presidential stupidity? Why, it must have been Fate-- fate and the Wizard Obama, using his famous "for it even when I'm against it" future-healing retromagic.

Bush merits only a sneer for his optimism: "the combat phase finally is ending, years past the time when President Bush optimistically declared it had.

Leaving aside that nobody in 03 could see into the future (well, nobody but The All-Knowing One), what Bush said was:

"major combat operations in Iraq have ended. ... And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country. ...We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We're bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous. ... we will stand with the new leaders of Iraq as they establish a government of, by and for the Iraqi people. The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth every effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done and then we will leave and we will leave behind a free Iraq."

Posted by: Erwin Hussein O'Barry at July 26, 2008 08:55 PM (HU4xc)

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