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August 22, 2008

Idiotic Friday Night "The Other One" Update: Kaine Is Out. Probably Bayh Too.
— DrewM

Here's the latest...

Obama Spokeswoman and part time reporter Andrea Mitchell says Bayh and Kaine are out (FNC is also reporting Kaine is out).

So all eyes are turning to Joe Biden! Thanks to Dave in Texas, you can watch CNN stakeout of his home.

The talk is now that Obama won't be sending out The Text until Saturday morning.

It's amazing how much millage the Obama people are getting out of this. It's a quality product roll out, no doubt about it. But at the end of all this hype and interest you wind up with...Joe Biden?

No VP nominee has made much of a difference since, what? L.B.J.? I'm sure Biden or whoever winds up on the ticket will keep that sting intact but at least Biden will be fun.

UPDATE: If you missed it earlier in the week, take a look at Jack M.'s thoughts on a possible Obama-Biden ticket.

UPDATE x2: The Weekly Standard says their source tells them it's Biden.

On behalf of Republicans and bloggers and co-bloggers everywhere, let me be the first to say...THANK YOU Barack!

UPDATE x3: The Secret Service is reported to en route to the Biden's home to establish their protective detail. Alas, they won't be able to protect him from his big mouth.

UPDATE x4 [Dave in Texas]: McCain camp launches Biden ad (via HotAir)

Posted by: DrewM at 04:23 PM | Comments (258)
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1 Bayh should have been the man.

Posted by: Christoph at August 22, 2008 04:25 PM (hawOV)

2 It's Christmas in August!

Posted by: mesablue at August 22, 2008 04:25 PM (5yNaE)

3 Fox News is reporting there's a lot of activity around Biden's house.

Please God . . .

Posted by: AD at August 22, 2008 04:29 PM (8mGNb)

4 I attempted to post a reply explaining that no official announcement has yet been made, but your blog must have been designed by someone with a lower IQ than me as it would not accept comments longer than 9,999 words.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 22, 2008 04:30 PM (plsiE)

The diminishing returns on this announcement are going to be cliff-like.

All this build up, all this hype ....... for Biden?

...

Biden?

...

I have a hard time believing Kos, Josh, Jane, or any of the lesser-lesser lights of the blogosphere being excited about ...

...

Biden.

.. for god's sake, the man makes linoleum interesting by comparison.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 22, 2008 04:31 PM (NnAGL)

6 This is going to be like an episode of the Dating Game, where the chick turns out to be Helen Thomas.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 22, 2008 04:31 PM (6L459)

7 VP by committee makes me sick. Man up, pick a VP that you respect and you think you can work with who has a future in the party. You cannot make everyone happy. I know, I know, shut up. Obama is too stupid to do this by himself. p.s. Please be Biden, Please be Biden

Posted by: mare at August 22, 2008 04:33 PM (xMkst)

Cool Facts about Joe Biden

1) Joe's oratorical skills were favorably compared to the guy he plagiarized.

2) What do Joe Biden and Dick Cheney have in common? They've both fucked Joe Biden over.

3) What color is Joe Biden's MBNA card? Whatever color MBNA decides to give him.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 22, 2008 04:36 PM (NnAGL)

9 If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

It's gotta be Clinton.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at August 22, 2008 04:40 PM (1Ug6U)

10 Biden was one of the first to endorse Obama. ("He's clean, articulate.") Sometimes he's a jerk, sometimes he can be astute, but he can't stop being politically incorrect. If he won't pick Hillary, I hope he picks Biden. I can use a laugh.

Posted by: lmg at August 22, 2008 04:40 PM (A/vgC)

11 It's a massive head fake. Why the hell would there be flights to and activity at the VP's house the night before? To help him pack?
Can you ever remember a VP nominee who had all this activity before?
Why go to all the trouble to keep it under wraps and then pull an OJ Simpson chase?

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 04:41 PM (7rbe9)

12 So after all the Kos Kids' orgasms over no MSM leaks, and them and the faithful being the first to know, Obama waited long enough with the text message for it to be leaked out. Change you can believe in.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 04:41 PM (jgsN9)

13 Thinking about all the awesome Biden sock-puppetry we might enjoy just made me come. Rats.

Posted by: mr.frakypants at August 22, 2008 04:42 PM (ZA24H)

14 The fact about Joe Biden and Cheney was worth the Diet Dr. Pepper on my keyboard.

Posted by: mare at August 22, 2008 04:43 PM (xMkst)

There are 1071 anagrams for "Obama Biden" including

Nabob Media
A Dean Bimbo

Ban Idea Mob
Boa Named Bi
A Bad Bi Omen

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Beam And Obi

Posted by: Jones at August 22, 2008 04:43 PM (KOkrW)

16 Why the hell would there be flights to and activity at the VP's house the night before?

Hustling out all the hookers before the media shows up.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 22, 2008 04:44 PM (6L459)

17 "Nabob Media A Dean Bimbo" Those are devastating. I thought the O had staffers to check this shit out. How could they have missed so badly, being so tech-savvy and all (after all, that whole pasty D & D crowd has nothing better to do than plug names into anagram calculators, right?)

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 04:46 PM (jgsN9)

18 Hustling out all the hookers before the media shows up.

No, no, no! John Edwards is out of the running didn't you here?

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 04:48 PM (7rbe9)

19 "Plugs" Biden?! BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA!

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at August 22, 2008 04:52 PM (ShiAt)

had to see

anagrams for ace of spades include

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Deface Ass Op
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Face Ape Sods
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Faces Pa Does
Safe Spa Coed

Posted by: Jones at August 22, 2008 04:56 PM (KOkrW)

"Nabob Media
A Dean Bimbo"

Excellent

How about 'Bad Mean Boi'?

Posted by: maxxman at August 22, 2008 04:57 PM (OYeDg)

22 "just made me come Rats." That's gotta hurt worse than a kidney stone.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 05:00 PM (jgsN9)

23 WHO. FUCKING. CARES.

Posted by: LiveFromFortLivingRoom at August 22, 2008 05:01 PM (kuzOF)

24 Is Biden really that bad a pick? Hugh Hewitt is praying for Biden. But on the surface, he sounds smart and competent. He may reassure a segment of people almost willing to support Obama. He talks a good game. Below the surface, he's a boob, but so is Obama. I think he's Obama's best bet, if HRC is out, is Biden, no? Analysis please...?

Also, does this promote or demote Romney? I think it promotes him relative to Pawlenty; with bland Bayh, Pawlenty's blandness wouldn't have been as apparent.

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 22, 2008 05:01 PM (tSftk)

25 ParisParamus, Biden sounds smart and competent to you?

Posted by: mare at August 22, 2008 05:04 PM (xMkst)

26 Biden? You know who that benefits, right?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at August 22, 2008 05:04 PM (hlYel)

27 ParisParamus: My < 2 cents: This should open the door for Palin, if McCain's got the balls. She's the only name out there who could calmly burst that buffoon's bubble in a debate. Imagine him bloviating long past his allotted time, whilst she stands MILFilly waiting to destroy him with a single sentence. One can only hope.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 05:04 PM (jgsN9)

28 God help thiscountry. This race (am I allowed to say that?) shouldn't even be this close with Obama (zero experience) and now you add Biden??? Wow!? Even this so called dream ticket will win the election or just barely lose it. What does that tell you about half the voting public?

Posted by: CDR M at August 22, 2008 05:07 PM (TJoU6)

If it's Biden, that guy's mouth is a force of nature. He will find the glare of national media irresistible, his off-the-cuff quips uncontrollable. Obama/Biden will be a Krakatoa of political gaffes.

THERE WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH POPCORN FOR THIS CAMPAIGN.

Posted by: Jones at August 22, 2008 05:07 PM (KOkrW)

30 Is Biden really that bad a pick?

Think McCain when he is crabby and bitchy and without the impressive resume and a 2nd rate intellect. The guy has a short fuse and a big ego. If I was a reporter the last place I would want to be is covering him every day.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 05:08 PM (7rbe9)

31 Sorry, should be "MILFully." My bad.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 05:09 PM (jgsN9)

32 It must be a drinkin night, some of you guys make no sense.

Posted by: Wilhelm Klink at August 22, 2008 05:12 PM (GGhvX)

33 mare I've heard him sound very smart and on point before, and found myself nodding along. He is persuasive and witty. A little daft sometimes but also funny.

Posted by: Dr. Chopper at August 22, 2008 05:12 PM (20dUP)

34 The problem I have with (well...the awesome thing about) Biden is that Obama has close states that he has the option to take somebody from. Kaine, for one, obviously being the Governor of Virgina, but also Bayh, being a former governor - they have a lot more contacts in a state and can really pull strings. Now, Indiana is starting to swerve more towards McCain, but Obama could really use Virginia or Indiana - he's tossing that away. Who cares about Delaware?

He also leaves an opening for McCain to pick a woman and turn the table on him with this identity politics stuff. Beyond that, though, pundits are talking about experience, but how many regular people have heard of Joe Biden? I can't believe there's anybody who's not going to vote for Obama who will decide Biden's experience makes a difference.

There's also the long history of gaffes to delve into (and play for everybody), which I assume will continue.

Even minor stuff - just this week he said "I'm not the guy" in response to the VP question. If somebody has that on video that's a clip you could have fun with.

Posted by: AD at August 22, 2008 05:15 PM (8mGNb)

35 Mare, no, he doesn't sound smart and competent to me, but he does pull off a certain oratory that one associates with pre-post-most intelligence. I'm just trying to get into the mind of people who, for whatever reason (probably IQ), aren't scared shitless of Obama!

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 22, 2008 05:15 PM (tSftk)

36 It's Clinton

Posted by: Christoph at August 22, 2008 05:16 PM (hawOV)

37 Oops: pre-post-most intelligence = pre-post-modern

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 22, 2008 05:17 PM (tSftk)

38 Obama was never going to win Indiana even if he picked Bayh.
The polling there is garbage. Bush won Indiana by 20 points.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 05:19 PM (7rbe9)

39 "It's Clinton" Ya'd think Barry would be looking past his 50th birthday. But maybe not.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 05:19 PM (jgsN9)

40 In related news, the Democratic Convention in Denver has been extended to an additional 3 days to allow the VP candidate a chance finish his acceptance speech.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2008 05:22 PM (plsiE)

41 Obama has no choice but to pick someone less impressive than himself (if that's possible) otherwise everyone will ask 'why isn't the other guy at the top of the ticket?'

Posted by: Jones at August 22, 2008 05:23 PM (KOkrW)

42 Shut up, Christoph.

Posted by: runninrebel at August 22, 2008 05:24 PM (qAMnO)

43 ixnay on the Onay idenBay, okay?

Posted by: Frank G at August 22, 2008 05:27 PM (P0rQD)

44 I'm not so sure about the validity of the media staking out Biden's home. Why aren't they referring to it as his "compound?"

Posted by: Doc Rochester at August 22, 2008 05:28 PM (kXcbE)

45 You know what - I am an idiot. Feel free to delete the above post.

No, seriously, delete it.

Delete it - NOW!

Posted by: AD at August 22, 2008 05:31 PM (8mGNb)

46 For each Obama choice, there's a logical McCain counterstroke: Obama picks Kaine: McCain takes Pawlenty. Obama goes for Bayh: McCain counters with Romney. Obama chooses Biden: McCain has to double down on Palin. But if Obama selects Hillary, McCain's only two logical responses are Rudy or Lieberman. Neither of which would make the base very happy....

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 05:32 PM (jgsN9)

47 it's going to be hillary.

Posted by: indga at August 22, 2008 05:34 PM (1cALf)

I can't believe what suckers you all are.

Look, there are only two possibilities here. Think about it - what is the biggest problem this country faces? It's you racist motherfuckers, that's what it is. And who is the one man that can help B-Rock heal the racial divide that you cracka-ass mothafuckas have created?

C. Ray Nagin - Mayor of New Orleans.

Martin Luther King visits him in his dreams, yo. Mocha Lightnin' and Chocolate Thunder, bitches. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2008 05:40 PM (bu0Ek)

"No VP nominee has made much of a difference since, what? L.B.J.? "

Jeeze.

DICK CHENEY.

He KILLED Algore and Holy Joe in the Veep Debates and has changed the dynamic of Veep selection.

Get a clue.

And I mean that in the nicest way.

Posted by: Beryl at August 22, 2008 05:41 PM (pBxGB)

50 It's Clinton:

I wonder how many people would be turned off from voting D simply by the zoo-ishness of a process that resulted in HRC getting the VP slot (separate from any substantive disgust anyone has for HRC or BHO)...

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 22, 2008 05:42 PM (tSftk)

51 AP has confirmed that Kwame Kitparick will not be Obama/s pick for VP.
CNN has just stopped staking out his prison cell.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 05:44 PM (7rbe9)

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at August 22, 2008 09:52 PM (ShiAt)

You, sir, win the IP hash contest for today. Congratulations.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2008 05:47 PM (plsiE)

53 "UPDATE x2: The Weekly Standard says their source tells them it's Biden." Pa-Lin Pa-Lin Pa-Lin Pa-Lin Have I mentioned that it's my opinion that the easiest way to shut up a bloviating egomaniac is with a self-assured, ubersmart, classy, gun-toting babe?

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 05:48 PM (jgsN9)

54 Methinks they didn't nail down the details on sending out tens of millions of text messages through dozens of carriers all at the same time -- well, that and no one except Plugs wants the job.

Posted by: mesablue at August 22, 2008 05:48 PM (5yNaE)

55 "Algore and Holy Joe" I think that'd be Holy Joe and Silky.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 05:50 PM (jgsN9)

56 Kwame was going to be my second guess.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at August 22, 2008 05:51 PM (TPRbZ)

Here's something else for you to chew on.

Tupac Shakur was supposedly "assassinated" in 1996. Barack Obama was elected to his first public office in 1996. Tupac was black. Barack Obama is black.

Do I have to spell it out for you?

Tupac Obama picks Cynthia McKinney as his running mate, citing "that big azz" among her qualifications.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2008 05:51 PM (bu0Ek)

58 "Methinks they didn't nail down the details on sending out tens of millions of text messages through dozens of carriers all at the same time" Good point. Cutting edge can cut both ways, can't it?

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 05:51 PM (jgsN9)

59 Excuse me, Mr. McCain, please pick Palin. She sounds like a conservative. Is she a conservative? No, a real one?

Posted by: mare at August 22, 2008 05:53 PM (xMkst)

60 Yeah I saw the Standard said it's Biden. Head fake. No way. God isn't that kind. It's the Hildabeast.

Posted by: Christoph at August 22, 2008 05:53 PM (hawOV)

61 Palin has no shot.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 05:54 PM (7rbe9)

62 When will the media learn that speculation, unless practiced by T. Boone, or wall street isn't a career, or a science, it's a pass-time?

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 05:54 PM (ul7te)

63 If Obama's gone with Biden, Maverick has GOT to go with Palin. Think of how pissed off all those women out there must be - yet another election year with no female name at the top of the ticket. It's been over twenty years since Geraldine Ferraro, for God's sake.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 22, 2008 05:55 PM (ubHgw)

64 Who cares? I'm entranced by men's gay Olympic diving.

Posted by: Wilhelm Klink at August 22, 2008 05:55 PM (GGhvX)

65 Or as us in flyover country call it, wilhelm klink, "men's diving."

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 05:57 PM (ul7te)

What's that screeching sound? You guys hear it?

Ah, now I know what it is- millions of feminist Hillary supporters reacting to the news.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2008 05:58 PM (plsiE)

67 Why can't the Maverick be Mavericky when we need him to be? I would like men's diving also but they are too gay and femmy.

Posted by: mare at August 22, 2008 05:58 PM (xMkst)

68 I would like to see Phelps do some diving.

Posted by: mare at August 22, 2008 06:00 PM (xMkst)

69 So, what's really hilarious is the thought of all those O-disciples who ponied up for first word on the identity of the recipient of His blessings, being scooped again by the MSM. What's that text message worth now, Markos? Andy? If he'd just pulled the string at 7:00 Eastern, everybody'd be happy. Signs of incompetence to come....

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 06:01 PM (jgsN9)

70 ABCnews link on SS is no good.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:02 PM (7rbe9)

71 Shit, even the Secret Service are involved in this head fake for Hillary? That's bullshit.

Captain Ed has an interesting theory about this you should read.

Posted by: Christoph at August 22, 2008 06:03 PM (hawOV)

72 Wow. Obama and Biden together could create a universe destroying supernova of smugness.

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 22, 2008 06:04 PM (vfDNl)

73 This works:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:05 PM (7rbe9)

74 Rock,

Thanks. It's interesting because it still shows up in my RSS feed but they pulled the link down. Not sure what's up with that.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 22, 2008 06:05 PM (hlYel)

75 Sorry, Rocks

Posted by: DrewM. at August 22, 2008 06:06 PM (hlYel)

76 Or maybe I just screwed up putting the link in. It's fixed.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 22, 2008 06:08 PM (hlYel)

77 Drew, they must have been going to make it a link from the main page to start and then changed their mind and just put it on the main page.

Rock is fine. Rock, Rocks, Rocky, a friend even calls me Rockford. But ya doesn't has to call me Johnson.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:09 PM (7rbe9)

78 Well, a hardcore narcissist like Obama would never pick anyone capable of equaling them, so that excludes Hillary. Biden, having ridden the short bus all his life, makes for the perfect dimwitted sidekick that will never upstage his pal by saying anything intelligent.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 22, 2008 06:10 PM (6L459)

Obama and Biden together could create a universe destroying supernova of smugness.

Will George Clooney be the Key Note at the convention?

Matt and Trey are writing the episode right now, well probably not, but I like to think that they are that kinda people.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 06:11 PM (ul7te)

80 I'm stunned. Maybe the speculation that his first picks said no is right.
Biden is a deal maker, he had to ask for something. I didn't think Obama would go with having to make promises just to get a VP.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:12 PM (7rbe9)

81 The commenters on Tapper's ABC site are not very happy. Most saying it's a bad pick.

And of course, the whiners:

What a joke about his supporters knowing first. What a joke. I'm really disappointed and feel like I got sucked into nothing but a marketing campaign. Unless he pulls Al Gore out of retirement, this process has been really disappointing and has actually eroded my trust in Obama.

I don't know much about Biden, but he comes across arrogant and loves to hear himself talk. I'm hoping I can push that aside and look at this new ticket objectively, but right now, I think this whole campaign was a huge mistake to lead the American people, most importantly, his supporters on like this.

So much for being the first to know.

Posted by: mesablue at August 22, 2008 06:13 PM (5yNaE)

82 Man! Only Just thought about that, Matt and Trey live right by Denver, someone should have totaly tried for an interview.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 06:13 PM (ul7te)

83 It's funny this goes out right after 11 pm eastern.
I'm thinking he wanted to make sure Fox news was no longer live before he did it.
This way the networks get it for 11 o'clock.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:15 PM (7rbe9)

84 I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of middle aged and older women suddenly cried out in anger and were suddenly silenced. I fear The One has done something to alienate them.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 22, 2008 06:15 PM (hlYel)

85 I think Purple Avenger is correct here - the chief criteria for Obama are:
1. Someone who'll look superficially impressive to the morons that stupid Constitution says have to be allowed to vote before The One's coronation.
2. Someone who, in fact, is *not* at all impressive, and has no chance of becoming a threat to the Messiah or looking like a viable substitute for Him.

Biden makes sense - he's a buffoon, but the rubes are too stupid to figure that out.

Posted by: suedenim at August 22, 2008 06:17 PM (PUOpk)

86 Not the Planet PUMA!!! We're peaceful, we have no weapons!

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:18 PM (7rbe9)

Am I in the right line? I've been waiting breathlessly for the new O-Phone. Damn.

Seriously, the big Zero is monitoring AOS until you're all finished with your spectacular speculation before he hits the send button and gets the blue screen of death.

All that being said, it's gotta be the only one who's a Senate Dem that won't upstage him. Tim Johnson of South Dakota. Just ask him.

Posted by: pistolero at August 22, 2008 06:20 PM (hBUN7)

88 "What a joke about his supporters knowing first. What a joke. I'm really disappointed and feel like I got sucked into nothing but a marketing campaign." Hehehehehehehehehehhhhh.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 06:21 PM (jgsN9)

89 That's no moon, its Biden's head

Posted by: toby wan kenobi at August 22, 2008 06:21 PM (evdj2)

90 What about a massive headfake followed by the announcement that it's Al Gore? Does he have a slot at the convention right now (I don't think so)? The main knock on this would be that he would completely overshadow BO.

Posted by: noone special at August 22, 2008 06:22 PM (XIXhw)

91 Man, CNN is splurging now.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:22 PM (7rbe9)

92 Arrogant upstart + arrogant loser = arrogant upstart loser.

Posted by: Ralph at August 22, 2008 06:23 PM (QZjCr)

93 Al Gore. Book it.

Posted by: MFn G I M P at August 22, 2008 06:24 PM (n90vT)

94 Give it up guys. They're wiping the pudding off Tim Johnson's chin as I write. Once they get him in a suit and prop him up in a chair it's a done deal.

Posted by: pistolero at August 22, 2008 06:25 PM (hBUN7)

95 No way Al Gore. Do you know what he gets per speech now?
He ain't giving up that cash cow.
He has very high utility bills he has to pay.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:26 PM (7rbe9)

96 Biden is a deal maker, he had to ask for something.

Usually you can buy him off with some bits of shiny tin foil and a half eaten bag of Cheetos.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 22, 2008 06:34 PM (6L459)

97 Big question for the PUMAs tonight....
How the fuck does a candidate narrowly miss getting the nomination with 18 MILLION votes and no even rate a lousy courtesy call from the nominee about who will be VP before it leaks?

PUMA BITCH SLAP!!!!!

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:34 PM (7rbe9)

That's no moon, its Biden's head

Obviously not, we all know M-O-O-N spells tom Cullen, not Joe Biden.

It's gonna be a guaranteed, I say so now, if it really is biden, it is a GUARANTEED! victory for McCain, unless McCain is caught in the next 2 months raping and strangling kittens.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 06:36 PM (ul7te)

99 "How the fuck does a candidate narrowly miss getting the nomination with 18 MILLION votes and no even rate a lousy courtesy call from the nominee about who will be VP before it leaks?" Another thought: 18 million votes, and you're bumped by a GUY that can't even pull 2% in Iowa....

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 06:37 PM (jgsN9)

100 and even if McCain is caught Raping and Strangling Kittens, then it's a toss up, unless he is doing so simultaneously, then the election LEANS Obama. Even then, it would require video.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 06:38 PM (ul7te)

101 "McCain is caught in the next 2 months raping and strangling kittens" Does it have to be the next two, or can it be the last two? Cause, umm, me and some McCain folks might have to talk....

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 06:38 PM (jgsN9)

102 Obama (clean and articulate) / Biden (stinky dirty shorts)

Posted by: Jimmy at August 22, 2008 06:39 PM (gJFp6)

103 Do NOT go to the PUMA site.

Just spent a couple of minutes over there. Those wimmins scare me.

No way they are just going to sit back and "behave" at the convention.

Posted by: mesablue at August 22, 2008 06:46 PM (5yNaE)

104 Interesting tidbit from John King subbing for Cooper on CNN.
He asks how will Obama handle an ego as big as Biden's?
King said he has a source in the Obama campaign and they say Obama's ego is so big that behind his back they call him ObaME!

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:47 PM (7rbe9)

105

more anagrams

Baa Commie Hell
Labia Leech Mom
Mamba Lice Hole
Halal Be Commie

and her husband, Maraca Kabob

Posted by: Jones at August 22, 2008 06:48 PM (KOkrW)

106 Another howler from CNN...they think Biden will help with Catholics!!!
Ahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.................

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:49 PM (7rbe9)

107

Those wimmins scare me.

No way they are just going to sit back and "behave" at the convention.

Don't hit on a puma,

CHECK

Does this also apply to Cougars? cuz, well, I'm going through a dry spell.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 06:51 PM (ul7te)

108 At least Biden can deliver Delaware for Obama, lol. What does Delaware have as a contribution to the country other than the most expensive state to pass in terms of highway tolls per mile?

Posted by: pistolero at August 22, 2008 06:51 PM (hBUN7)

109 "Mamba Lice Hole" I think it should be "Lice Hole Mamba." That might even be the title of a Clifton Chenier album.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 06:52 PM (jgsN9)

110 Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama has ruled out Senator Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential running mate, a senior Democratic official told CNN on Friday night.

Clinton Obama's main rival during the primary season has been informed by Obama's campaign that she is not his choice to be his vice presidential candidate, the source said.

His people called her people. No call from Obama.

Bitch fucking slap!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damn!

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 06:53 PM (7rbe9)

111 Apparently Colin Powell said no, too. He's not scheduled to speak at the convention, either.

Posted by: Nice Deb at August 22, 2008 06:59 PM (fXOzo)

112

The psychotic twins at MSNBC will love it because they want an attack dog versus McCain.

However, this is a terrible pick because Biden cannot be civil or witty in disagreeing with an opponent- just snotty and caustic.

It will underscore the arrogance and elitism of both men.

Posted by: jjshaka at August 22, 2008 07:03 PM (jKTWL)

113 Heh, Dick Morris just said that Obama needs Biden because "he needs someone who knows where the men's room is in the White House."

Posted by: mesablue at August 22, 2008 07:03 PM (5yNaE)

114 " However, this is a terrible pick because Biden cannot be civil or witty in disagreeing with an opponent- just snotty and caustic." Again, that's why McCain needs to pick Palin. You don't win, as a man, being snotty and caustic to a woman in public.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 07:05 PM (jgsN9)

115 Wasn't Biden the braniac who came up with the idea of making the Iraqi 'civil war" real and dividing up Iraq into 3 sectors? Shia, Sunni and Kurdish.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 07:07 PM (7rbe9)

116 Over at The Corner, Ramesh thinks maybe McCain can win the Indian vote (remember Biden's foot-in-mouth #7425?) Biden explains Indian-American remarks

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 07:09 PM (jgsN9)

117 Morris also just called Obama, "stupid."

Party Unity My Ass, indeed.

Posted by: mesablue at August 22, 2008 07:09 PM (5yNaE)

118 Wow, hopefully we'll see a lot more of this.

From the ABC site:

Hillary was cheated out of this because Obama helped cover up Edwards' affair while he sucked Hillary's votes away in the early primaries!!!

A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE FOR HILLARY!!

Posted by: mesablue at August 22, 2008 07:12 PM (5yNaE)

119 I'm suddenly worried that this is an elaborate ruse and Obama will still tap the beast. Beatable even then but tougher.

Posted by: toby wan kenobi at August 22, 2008 07:16 PM (evdj2)

120 Biden chides competitors on foreign policy experience.

"The reason I was surprised by what not only Senator Obama said, but what Senator Clinton said and Senator Dodd said, is that all three of them seemed to be arguing about something that they didn't know already existed. It is the policy of the United States of America, it has been the policy for the last five years; if there's actionable intelligence relating to bin Laden or Al Qaeda, that we would move, assuming we're able to move, against him," Mr. Biden said. "The part that surprised me was the lack of knowledge about this and the idea that you wouldn't take action if you knew where bin Laden was."

Mr. Biden added that Mr. Obama's proposal to make American aid to Pakistan conditional on progress in fighting Al Qaeda is already in legislation. Mr. Biden drafted an amendment to a bill passed by Congress in July and awaiting the signature of President Bush. "That's the Biden-Lantos amendment," Mr. Biden said. "It exists now, so the thing that startled me was the fact that here these three people are arguing about whether we should go in or not go in or how to go in, the first thing that surprised me is it took so long for them to focus on Pakistan.

...

While Mr. Biden supports a plan to devolve control of Iraq into three different sectors, Kurdish, Shiite and Sunni, and helped draft the "Levin-Reed Amendment" on redeployment of American forces from Iraq,

...

One example he cited was the call for an immediate withdrawal of American armed forces from Iraq. "The fact of the matter is, it's physically impossible logistically to remove 160,000 forces from the area in less than a year, and even if you leave all the equipment behind, which will later be used to shoot at us and kill us in other places, you're talking about a 10-month time frame."

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 07:16 PM (7rbe9)

121 Hmmm...... Still waiting for my text message.... BFF BHO my ass. U WIL B D FRST 2 No Yeah, right.

Posted by: notropis at August 22, 2008 07:16 PM (jgsN9)

122

A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE FOR HILLARY!!

I don't think thats far off, THIS IS A 1 TERM PRESIDENCY! Hillary wants to be in position in four years from now.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 07:19 PM (ul7te)

123 I'm willing to bet Obambi has texted Scarlett Johannsen this evening....

Posted by: Jack M. at August 22, 2008 07:20 PM (eOEgY)

124 From the Campaign Spot, re Biden:

"UPDATE: One last thought before bed: Imagine McCain picking Gov. Bobby Jindal. First line at the debate, 'Senator, before we begin our debate, let me clarify for you that I don't work at a 7-11.'"

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 22, 2008 07:23 PM (tSftk)

125 Oh PLEASE let it be Biden-pants!

Posted by: thebronze at August 22, 2008 07:33 PM (YlH3h)

126 Well CNN is still hedging on Biden.

I still say though that Obama/Biden looks an awful lot like Dukakis/Bentson only Obama is even more lightweight then Dukakis.
Obama is caving the same way Dukakis did. One more hit the size of Willie Horton, oh say on Ayers or abortion, and it's over.

If McCain starts eating pork rinds, wearing flannels and picks Jindal it will be complete Deja Vu. Didn't they try to paint Bush 41 as a Kennebunkport elitist?

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 07:40 PM (7rbe9)

127 CNN confirms it is Biden from 2 Dem sources.

Posted by: Rocks at August 22, 2008 07:44 PM (7rbe9)

128

I'm watching Lockdown on msnbc and they just made it official:

It's Biden.

President John McCain, sounds good. Ohhhh, First Lady Cindy McCain, ohhhh yeah, where's that butter hmmmmmmm.

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 22, 2008 07:55 PM (xz/YV)

129

a millionaire beer heiress as FLOTUS?

IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY OR WHAT

Posted by: Jones at August 22, 2008 08:02 PM (KOkrW)

130

Or to quote jakov,

"What a Country!"

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 08:07 PM (ul7te)

131 you guys are behind; it's biden

Posted by: Brad at August 22, 2008 08:15 PM (9f7JD)

132

AP says Biden.

What a relief! I was really worried about him being Secretary of State.

Posted by: Whitehall at August 22, 2008 08:16 PM (FCAIs)

133 I repeat myself from an earlier thread... I found the real bumper sticker.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 22, 2008 08:16 PM (AZGON)

134 TOTAL HEAD FAKE!

Both Fox News and CNN bought it. They're saying it's Biden.

Posted by: Christoph at August 22, 2008 08:18 PM (hawOV)

135 It is Biden. At this point, another stupid head fake is going to cost votes.

What a very non-changey choice. And what a bunch of BS hype for nothing!

Now everyone is sick of hearing about Obama, and he was convoluted and clusterfucked in the way he handled this decision. Didn't even speak to Hillary. Played a bunch of stupid games with the voters. He doesn't strike me as much of a leader.

I was hoping for the Obama/Byrd ticket. A little something for everyone.

Posted by: ▄█▀ █■█ █ █▄ █▄ at August 22, 2008 08:24 PM (8jYMc)

136 So we are going after Osama bin Laden with Obama bin Biden!!

Too rich.

I agree that McVain needs to go with Palin, now, but he is not smart enough to do so.

What is Dan Quayle up to these days?

Posted by: Paul in Iowa at August 22, 2008 08:26 PM (CRcyy)

137 Holy crap, I don't think I've drank enough tonight to believe this, but is it really Biden? Obama bin Biden? How can we be this lucky? Biden voted to authorize the Iraq invasion, but never served... so is it an Obama/Chickenhawk ticket? How can Obama square choosing a Senator who supported the Iraq invasion with Obama's own assertions that it was the biggest blunder of US foreign policy ever? Can we begin to agree that Geraldine Ferraro was right, and the only reason a dimwitted non-entity like Obama came this far was because he is out of Politically Correct Central Casting?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 22, 2008 08:33 PM (AZGON)

138 This is pretty clever of the Obamas -- float a few names for a few days and see if any bombs drop.

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 08:36 PM (LLT2j)

139 Obama should be bold and pick Keith Ellison or Jim Webb.

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 08:39 PM (LLT2j)

140 Man I can't believe the amount of hype that has led up to BIDEN? It's like the Segway all over again!

K

Posted by: Kestrel at August 22, 2008 08:42 PM (bO3lW)

141 You know this morning I decided to do my own experiment. On the way to work, nothing on the radio but constant chatter about everyone keeping their cell phone close due to the "special" text message from the Messiah!. My drive to work, was station after station, that's all... we are going to be waitin for the text. Well I decided to pull a prank at work to the most loyal democrat idealogues who's sphincter's were the size of ant's ass waitin for the text from the exalted one.. I sent a text msg where I spoofed a text message from the Messiah's web site indicating that the VP pick was Hillary.

What happened next was amazing.... in a very arrogant manner this person announced to the office that he received a text message indicating that Hillary was the pick. The office proceeded to have a spontaneous celebration that finally the democrats have realized that enough was enough and that the Clinton's were going to put Obama over the top. That led to an email broadcasting the announcement that this fellow was the first to receive the txt msg which led to phone calls to his family and friends. That's when I decided after precisely 2 minutes into this celebration, that enough was enough. I sent another spoofed txt msg indicating it was Robert Byrd. Well... that caused a shit storm of another email message retracting the Hillary announcement and blaming the previous announcement that the republicans hacked into the Obama website.

What is the point of all of this... the realization that Obamican's realize that Hillary was their only hope to reclaim the White House.

Posted by: sergei at August 22, 2008 08:45 PM (yHPTx)

142 If Geraldine Ferraro is a good reference, for what would be the right VP choice, then the Dems are eternaly doomed. Wha did GF get for Mondale? If GF delivered anything, than Mondale was an even worse candidate than I thought.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 08:45 PM (ul7te)

143 Someone needs to do Obama-Biden '08 photoshop starting from a box of o-b tampons.....

Posted by: cthulhu at August 22, 2008 08:47 PM (IJGaX)

144 The real problem was that Mondale was a major loser. Ferraro was no better, but she was only VP candidate. The point here is Ferraro herself admitted she only got the slot because of her genitalia. Obama has a similar qualification. These days, I think it may be both melanin and genitalia. (He does have some, yes? The gender is uncertain.)

Posted by: George Orwell at August 22, 2008 08:49 PM (AZGON)

145 Obambi should really pick Thumper. Think about it, a horny cartoon rabbit has more veritas than most other Dem candidates.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 22, 2008 08:50 PM (ItxWA)

146 As a Delawarean, I wish to apologize now for the potential renewed onslaught of 'Joementum'.

On the other hand, good riddance to him.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 22, 2008 08:54 PM (rSo39)

147 Whew! Thank Obama we've dragged this melodrama out for about a week. Saved us the real, embarrassing work of trying to resurrect our savior after the forum talk debacle.

Posted by: The Deciders™ at August 22, 2008 08:58 PM (sI5Ho)

148 Biden?

You mean the old, white liberal whose presidential aspirations was curtailed in 1988 when he was caught plagiarizing an old, white, liberal limey?

Thank you, Jesus!!

Posted by: Aaron at August 22, 2008 09:00 PM (rjypV)

149

9 If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

It's gotta be Clinton.

Yup.

Posted by: Javems at August 22, 2008 09:00 PM (/IQA9)

150 Told ya so. Hillary told Barry way back in June that she wouldn't be his veep. All the stories up till now have been attempts to get her supporters calmed down before the convention. whoopsie?

Posted by: funky chicken at August 22, 2008 09:02 PM (xyyHG)

151 Here is a first effort, folks. A little propaganda.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 22, 2008 09:04 PM (AZGON)

152 So Obambi picked an old Washington insider who voted for the Iraq war, is prone to racist statements, has called The One unprepared, and makes mrs gaffes than Obama himself. The ad room at the RNC is cracking out the champaigne.

Posted by: Benson at August 22, 2008 09:08 PM (27H/6)

153 President John McCain, sounds good. Ohhhh, First Lady Cindy McCain, ohhhh yeah, where's that butter hmmmmmmm. Posted by: navycopjoe at August 23, 2008 12:55 AM (xz/YV) shame on you

Posted by: funky chicken at August 22, 2008 09:08 PM (xyyHG)

154 George, don't you mean Ferraro only got the slot because of her slot?

har har. Granted, she comes across as a pretty smart lady lately. I think it's unfair to credit her with Mondale's disaster, but she obviously gets no kudos either.

At least Sergei had some fun with this. Obama had expectations up, and wound up going with the most predictable choice. And he picked an arrogant asshole.

All Obama had was his judgment being better than everyone else's experience... yet his only judgment beyond 'present'x130 was that Iraq was a bad idea... now he's picked one who authroized Iraq. Prominently.

I think Romney and Biden would just be a big fight... Romney would win arguments, but perhaps only in my book. I think Mccain has plenty of room to pick someone more interesting if he wants. Not that it matters. I don't think he could possibly pick worse than Biden. I hope he taps some complete Washington Outsider... a true business leader like Meg or Carli, or an interesting Governor.

Oh man, I waited all day to heasr it was Biden? Obama was chuckling about his super cool secret all week... and it was Biden?

Ask yourselves this: How would Paris Hilton tell Ashton Kutcher who her VP choice was? SMS message, perhaps? And what would Paris's stage look like at the convention? Kinda like the DNC's? How would Paris deal with a strong opponent like Hillary? Passive Aggressive cold shoulder?

Posted by: ▄█▀ █■█ █ █▄ █▄ at August 22, 2008 09:08 PM (8jYMc)

155

The plagiarism is stupid.

as for

Someone needs to do Obama-Biden '08 photoshop

I think that wiser's olympics 2012 icon might LOOK like '08 enough to pass.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 09:12 PM (ul7te)

156

But on the surface, he sounds smart and competent.

So did John Kerry. Then people realized he was a gas bag.

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 09:19 PM (LLT2j)

157 Totally agree with you, Shill. Mondale's fall was Mondale's fault. I love, love Sergei's story. I my business, the rank and file are straight down the line conformist Obama robots. I would have loved to see the Sergei prank in person. So what happened to the endless assurances, even from conservatives, that Barry was so intelligent and sharp? So savvy with the branding and marketing? I would know as advertising is my field. Who was he kidding with this stupid SMS messaging stunt? Just because you have fancy tech toys doesn't mean you can use them to perform brain surgery or alter the political landscape like a game of WoW. I'm telling you, in advertising the support for Obambi is nearly universal... and it's all about brand and image. You never hear issues discussed, only how to sell him, as if he were a Prius or a sausage or cable TV service. The only additional frisson of cool is the moral superiority of "being politically engaged." On the left side, of course.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 22, 2008 09:20 PM (AZGON)

158 WONDERFUL! The Obamessiah is the gift that keeps on giving! He disses the PUMAs by not picking The Hildabeast (she wasn't going to play second fiddle to him after being in that role all her life behind Billy). He also disses his base because he chooses a 36-year Washington insider career politician (which doesn't fit well with the "Change" theme). Now all McCain has to do is pick either Palin or Kasich and ride his way into the White House.

Posted by: Trubador at August 22, 2008 09:25 PM (gsfjs)

159 Holy crap. It is Biden. The supergenius, Obama, snookered us all.

That's going to be a tough ticket to beat.

Obama chose a lightning Rod. Conservatives will now change direction and attack Biden, which will let Obama off the ropes just as we were about to knock him down.

Further, Biden will connect with liberal voters Obama's failed with.

We're doomed! We're doomed, I tell you!

(But, seriously, keep your eye on the political target: It's Obama.)

Posted by: Christoph at August 22, 2008 09:27 PM (hawOV)

160 I hope Biden says something cool and original like "the eyes are the nipples of the face" during his acceptance speech if he's nominated.

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 09:34 PM (LLT2j)

161 Biden? Biden?!!? Biden??? I feel like Robert Byrd, as heard on an audio clip... "Pinch me! Pinch me!"

Posted by: George Orwell at August 22, 2008 09:34 PM (AZGON)

162 It's a feint... O! doesn't want someone who complements him, in that person would outshine and make O! look the vapid, insipid drooling mess he really is. No, he needs someone just like him. Like Bart.

Posted by: Paulitics at August 22, 2008 09:35 PM (BOyTY)

163 Olbermann.

Obama's gonna need a true believer.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at August 22, 2008 09:38 PM (MMC8r)

164 He'd pick Chris Matthews, but he doesn't want to spend four years getting his leg humped.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at August 22, 2008 09:39 PM (MMC8r)

165

The real problem was that Mondale was a major loser. Ferraro was no better, but she was only VP candidate. The point here is Ferraro herself admitted she only got the slot because of her genitalia.

The old joke was that if Reagan could have a Bush in the VP slot, so could Mondale.

Posted by: Bill H at August 22, 2008 09:40 PM (q8CmE)

166

I know who it is!

How could we have overlooked the obvious choice??

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 09:43 PM (LLT2j)

167

SUCK IT NEO CON BITES!!!

The candidate for change, chose. . . . Biden?

ummm, I will be looking up change and hope for the next several hours, and trying to make them comply with BIDEN.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 09:46 PM (ul7te)

168

If it's Biden, I have only two things to say:

1. God works in mysterious ways.

2. Judge-a-ment.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 22, 2008 09:48 PM (6Gy0q)

169 It's Edwards. I heard that Eddy boy stole from his campaign to pay of the baby-momma. Gotta love a crooked, adulterous, PI lawyer.

Posted by: MAJ O at August 22, 2008 09:48 PM (HewaE)

170

Okay, seriously, this is Obama's pick.

This person doubles Obama's chances of winning because, well, it's double the ooey-gooey goodness!

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 09:49 PM (LLT2j)

171

All jokes aside, I'm going to show you Obama's pick. It can't be, for obvious reasons, the person above. Because America is too racist to elect an all-black ticket, Obama needs to nominate a white Veep. So...here's his pick:

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 09:53 PM (LLT2j)

172 No, Bart, the obvious choice is here.

Posted by: Dave J at August 22, 2008 09:57 PM (qsGH+)

173 you bastard!

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 09:59 PM (LLT2j)

174 You know, if McCain wanted to be mean he would pick Rudy. Imagine if the GOP won NJ, PA, WV, and VA this fall. Biden would deliver Delaware and Maryland....but a dead dog veep would have delivered Delaware and Maryland.

Posted by: funky chicken at August 22, 2008 10:00 PM (xyyHG)

175 Seeing images of Biden with Obama, is it just me or does Biden appear far more presidential?

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd345/allwinallthetime/bidenobama.jpg

Posted by: Jefferson Smith at August 22, 2008 10:03 PM (pCwGD)

176 Barack Obama is not a great showman. He is not using this long process of picking a vice president to build suspense. He is not using it to distract from his other problems. There's no head fake here. The reason Barack Obama is taking so long to pick his vice president is because he is indecisive.

Its really that simple.

Posted by: fredras at August 22, 2008 10:06 PM (ZHsEK)

177

You know, if McCain wanted to be mean he would pick Rudy.

You know? If I wasn't a tolerant guy I would go into one of my famouse wickedpinto tirades.

So, I suggest, funky chicken, that you get the bathwater running, and prepare to wash your mouth out with soap, Since I'm a hoosier, I suggest ambuoy, but I'm more than happy with Lava.

Now go, and don't speak until you return.

Posted by: wickedpinto at August 22, 2008 10:12 PM (ul7te)

178

No, it won't be Hillary fucking Rodham fucking Clinton.

"Shame. On. You., Barack Obama."

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 10:15 PM (LLT2j)

179

I thought it would be Biden.

It's Biden. I trust my relative and his cryptic email yesterday.

I probably should considering...

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Olbermananananaaann at August 22, 2008 10:18 PM (vFeQi)

180

Believe me, I'd love for it to be Hillary because we could play this over and over:

Everyone forgets how much Hillary sucked on the campaign trail and how high her negatives were. Everyone except for the Obama camp, who, apparently have enough sense to know that Clinton is poison to their campaign.

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 10:20 PM (LLT2j)

181

You know, if McCain wanted to be mean he would pick Rudy. Imagine if the GOP won NJ, PA, WV, and VA this fall.

Yeah, them there Virginian and West Virginains just love those NYC types...

NJ? Yeah- those dead folks would drive their flying cars to the polls to vote Republican if Rudy was on the ticket.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2008 10:20 PM (v8vVW)

182 AAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at August 22, 2008 10:27 PM (JBuzy)

183

Bart sees dead people. Paulitics sees Hillary.

Bank on it.

Posted by: Paulitics at August 22, 2008 10:30 PM (BOyTY)

184 As a Delawarean, I for one would love to get rid of him. But we all know he's not going anywhere.

Posted by: Maureen at August 22, 2008 10:35 PM (6k64E)

185

I was imprisoned lived in Delaware for almost four years from the late '80s early '90s. Biden was an old joke then and is moreso now.

But it won't be him. Paulitics sees Hillary.

Learn it, live it, love it.

Posted by: Paulitics at August 22, 2008 10:37 PM (BOyTY)

186

I see Hillary's big can and big saggy rack...

in my dreams.

She ain't gonna be Veep.

Posted by: Bart at August 22, 2008 10:40 PM (LLT2j)

187

big can and big saggy rack...

Leave your mother out of this.

Posted by: Paulitics at August 22, 2008 10:42 PM (BOyTY)

188 McCain cannot pick Rudy. He cannot pick a pro-choice candidate, even though the fact is that it doesn't matter very much.

I would really like to see Palin in there. Or Steele. Or anyone who is actually a conservative who would still stir the identity politics pot because I think it's good strategy. I would much rather she were the presidential candidate, but perhaps as VP she will be well-positioned for a presidential bid.

BTW, nice to see wickedpinto is back. I haven't had the time to hang out in the comments lately, so I didn't know.

Posted by: cranky-d at August 22, 2008 10:43 PM (L4z/p)

189 You, sir, win the IP hash contest for today. Congratulations.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2008 05:47 PM (plsiE)

I don't know, yours comes in a good second.

Posted by: cheshirecat at August 22, 2008 11:10 PM (zHDr9)

190 BREAKING NEWS! ON CNN!

Sources close to the campaign say that Al Gore will NOT be the VP pick for Obama. Stand by for more details...

I swear to God, I'm glad I don't watch television. CNN has had the BREAKING NEWS banner forever this evening, with news of who is NOT going to be it.

Talk about useless television.

Posted by: cheshirecat at August 22, 2008 11:14 PM (zHDr9)

191

Wait a minute... we're all missing the obvious. Obama. Delaware.

OBAMA/DuPONT 08!

Posted by: Paulitics at August 22, 2008 11:17 PM (BOyTY)

192 48

I can't believe what suckers you all are.

C. Ray Nagin - Mayor of New Orleans.

Martin Luther King visits him in his dreams, yo. Mocha Lightnin' and Chocolate Thunder, bitches. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2008 05:40 PM (bu0Ek)

Don't be callin' me a bytch...I've been an honorary brother since 1984 (even before Slick Willie was called the "First Black President"). The bro's call me "White Chocolate"...

Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at August 22, 2008 11:19 PM (FmHHv)

193 Has Christoph been drinking?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 22, 2008 11:23 PM (wgLRl)

194 McCain would be insane if he picked a pro-choice VP. Didn't Rudy's flameout teach him that? The base is the engine of this bus and if the guy driving isn't correct on the life issue, that bus ain't moving.

I'm pro-choice, but I understand that pro-choice R's are the minority in this party. Really, being pro-life is a litmus test for me in the sense that someone who's pro-life tends to be right on all the other issues that I care deeply about. (Huckabee excepted)

Posted by: nightwitch at August 22, 2008 11:39 PM (dfTf5)

195 I guess I should've said that a pro-choice VP doesn't matter that much from a policy standpoint as the VP traditionally has almost nothing to say with respect to policy. However, from a philisophical standpoint McCain cannot have a pro-choice VP.

I consider myself reluctantly pro-choice. I think it's a devil's bargain, but the genie is already out of the bottle. But I would really like the issue to be thrown back to the states and out of the Fed's hands so it wouldn't be a nationwide issue any more.

Posted by: cranky-d at August 22, 2008 11:44 PM (L4z/p)

196

Fox and AP are reporting it's Biden. And by Biden, they mean Hillary!

Bank on it.

Posted by: Paulitics at August 22, 2008 11:53 PM (BOyTY)

197 CNN, too: Biden Hillary!

Posted by: Paulitics at August 22, 2008 11:56 PM (BOyTY)

198
Some real unhappiness with the Biden pick over at TalkLeft

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/22/184243/129

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at August 23, 2008 12:02 AM (nuuDA)

199

Bank on it!

Posted by: Bart at August 23, 2008 12:04 AM (LLT2j)

200 Hey didn't Joe Biden kill Chandra Levy?

Posted by: Bart at August 23, 2008 12:06 AM (LLT2j)

201 Didn't the Douchebag promise he would text his pick first? Isn't that why he got all their numbers so they could be the secret informers first to know?
It's all over the news right now.
SUCKERS!!!!

Obama/Biden: Arrogance Squared

Posted by: Breaker19 at August 23, 2008 12:07 AM (aGBU2)

202 cranky, I have a touchy feel on the abortion issue myself. I hate abortions inherently, but I too think it should be up to the states.

Regardless, Mccain needs turnout... that's what won Bush two terms. He needs a fired up base. A pro-choice candidate would cost him tons of votes. I have no idea what Giuliani gives Mccain that Mccain doesn't already have. Mccain commanded large units. He's been very able as a chairman. He's a senator, but the lack of executive experience isn't a huge problem because few people see Mccain as unable to lead. Giuliani is a great security stye leader, but Mccain is too. I also doubt very much that Giuliani would make huge dents in blue states, being that Mccain is even more moderate than Rudy.

Lieberman is right out, I sure as hell hope.

What I think would help change the game is a bit of breaking identity politics. A lady veep would tick off a few people on the right (no kidding, there are a couple of idiots on our side, and my in-laws are two of 'em).

If only Sarah Palin had more experience, I'd be happy with the choice. But can Biden really challenge Palin on this point? It would be gaffe bait to nominate her. My real problem with Palin is the concern that she's not really ready for the job, being so inexperienced. But this is a touch election that has to be fought hard. If Palin polls well, I think she's a great pick to balance against old-school jerk-off Biden.

Posted by: ▄█▀ █■█ █ █▄ █▄ at August 23, 2008 12:17 AM (8jYMc)

203 Bart, that was Gary Condit (allegedly). But please feel free to continue to spread rumors.

Posted by: Dave J at August 23, 2008 12:21 AM (qsGH+)

204 I consider myself reluctantly pro-choice. I think it's a devil's bargain, but the genie is already out of the bottle. But I would really like the issue to be thrown back to the states and out of the Fed's hands so it wouldn't be a nationwide issue any more.

Exactly how I feel and I bet most other pro-choice cons feel the same way. That's why McCain would be committing electoral suicide to pick a squish on the life issue. If being pro-choice is your passion and you want to be in the driver's seat, there's a party for you already and it isn't the republicans.

Posted by: nightwitch at August 23, 2008 12:21 AM (dfTf5)

205

hahaha, yeah, it's never too early to sling shit

gooogle is a wonderful thing -- now Biden will be associated with the murder of Chandra Levy.

Which reminds me, didn't Joe Biden steal secret documents by stuffing them in his pants before the 9/11 Commision got ahold of them in oerder to protect the Clintons?

Posted by: Bart at August 23, 2008 12:29 AM (LLT2j)

206 Speaking of poor judgment:

December 2006, Biden called the Surge the "absolute wrong strategy".

November 2007, Biden said any talk that the U.S. troop surge in Iraq is working is a "fantasy".*

*Tell that to the Troops

Posted by: Breaker19 at August 23, 2008 12:52 AM (aGBU2)

207 At a time like this, I'm reminded of Dirk Bogarde telling Julie Christie: You're a whore! And I don't take whores in taxis.

Posted by: hillarysuicidewatch at August 23, 2008 12:54 AM (iot9F)

208

Fox News confirms Biden as the pick.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/23/obama-picks-joe-biden-for-veep/

tmi3rd

Posted by: tmi3rd at August 23, 2008 12:57 AM (Gz0u5)

209

Chalk up NBC as well...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26010055/

tmi3rd

Posted by: tmi3rd at August 23, 2008 12:59 AM (Gz0u5)

210 Let the games jokes begin!!!!!!

Posted by: XBradTC at August 23, 2008 01:17 AM (pSXbN)

211 Joe is the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a VP slot.

Posted by: Breaker19 at August 23, 2008 01:21 AM (aGBU2)

212 Can we declare Friday, Aug. 22, to be Fitzmas?

Posted by: DaveS at August 23, 2008 01:32 AM (pGdsh)

213 I dunno about Palin. Most Alaskans I've talked (typed?) with on the right are hoping she'll be picked so they'll be rid of her. Kind of the opposite of Louisianians are about Bobby Jindal. (Seriously, taking Jindal from us could cost McCain Louisiana...)

Posted by: Cybrludite at August 23, 2008 01:55 AM (GDpMq)

214 It's the "O and Joe Show!"

Posted by: mensamann at August 23, 2008 02:25 AM (ZctfE)

215 Hmmmm.

@ Purple Avenger

"This is going to be like an episode of the Dating Game, where the chick turns out to be Helen Thomas."

Fuck man! I laughed so hard I snorted some scrambled egg into my sinus!

That's a classic.

Posted by: memomachine at August 23, 2008 02:59 AM (3PLow)

216
"If Geraldine Ferraro is a good reference, for what would be the right VP choice, then the Dems are eternaly doomed."

WP, Ferraro is now 20 years older and, hopefully, 20 years wiser. The fact that she was an unimpressive VP candidate doesn't make her stupid.

Besides, I agree with her, so she must be pretty bright ...

Posted by: Brown Line at August 23, 2008 03:05 AM (OMiLl)

217 What does Delaware have as a contribution to the country other than the most expensive state to pass in terms of highway tolls per mile?

Well, they don't have a sales tax. I bought my last 2 PCs, my HDTV, and a lot of smokes in the 1st state. Saved thousands,

Otherwise, the state exists to give people from Jersey someone to feel superior to.

Posted by: Dr. Remulak at August 23, 2008 03:16 AM (tOKjq)

218 We now have a VP candidate who has said of his running-mate

ABCS GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You were asked, Is he ready? You said, I think he can be ready but right now, I dont believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.

JOE BIDEN: I think that I stand by the statement.

Posted by: AD at August 23, 2008 03:19 AM (8mGNb)

219 In an earlier thread, I mentioned that the other day, I had dinner with my sister, the sane Obama supporter. We chatted about our respective VP candidates. She was intrigued by Palin, in part because of her sex but also because of her being a fiscal conservative: I think everybody with an ounce of sense in both parties knows that the party's over and it's time to sit down and make some tough financial decisions.

When I asked her about Biden, she just shook her head. Biden is no Ted Stevens, but he's a pretty good example of what's wrong with Congress. He brings nothing to the ticket, and he completely negates the Obamessiah's yammerings about Hope and Change.

This clearly is another of Obama's rookie mistakes. Now, if McCain would only pick Palin, I'd be one happy guy.

Posted by: Brown Line at August 23, 2008 03:23 AM (OMiLl)

220 Joe Biden is just the ticket to get those bitter gun and bible clingers to vote for Barack! All Hail Barack! Now that Delaware's safely in his grasp, McCain has no chance.

Posted by: Allan at August 23, 2008 03:33 AM (wqeTm)

221 It should be Steele for a couple of reasons: 1) He's conservative; 2) He's black; 3) an Obama loss will set race relations back about 30 years.

Posted by: ahem at August 23, 2008 03:34 AM (KJriG)

222

Wheels.........

I cant do this. Im too little!

Look kid, this is how its gonna work.

Tell Mrs Clinton she can have a roll call at Denver.

Then, pick a real dope for your VP. Make sure you screw it all up getting the message out.

Ya piss of the base, and then in Denver, they give her the nod.

But what about me?

Why kid, you get to be her VP!

Could happen.

And monkeys could start flying out of my ass.......

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 23, 2008 03:42 AM (OrDsI)

223 "Yeah, them there Virginian and West Virginains just love those NYC types..."

Uhhh... West Virginians keep sending Jay Fucking Rockefeller back to the Senate. What a schizophrenic state I live in... Bush wins by 13 points in '04 but KKK Byrd, Rockadollar, instant millionaire Mollohan (who was under investigation until Nancy Peloony became Speaker of the House), and Baghdad Nick Rahall keep getting sent back to Washington. And who's governor with 90% probability of getting reelected in November? Democrat Joe Manchin, who somehow managed to sustain only minimal damage this year when his daughter was in the middle of a messy scandal involving the award of an unearned MBA by the state's flagship university. Nonetheless, the shizoid voting pattern will continue this year as McCain, Manchin, Mollohan, and Rahall win the state.

Posted by: Reiver at August 23, 2008 04:02 AM (s7h/P)

224 I may have overlooked it above but the obvious bumper sticker for these two is:

Obama & Dumber '08 - I hope they change

Posted by: Brian at August 23, 2008 04:04 AM (6CDOn)

225 So now the convention will be faced with the choice of Obama/Biden, or Hillary! Does this resurrect her chances at all?

Posted by: lmg at August 23, 2008 04:05 AM (A/vgC)

226

The Democrats now have a LOCK on the key self-important gasbag demographic.

Posted by: blaster at August 23, 2008 04:25 AM (KpEAZ)

227

The selection of Biden proves that there is a God. I can't wait to see his first appearance with that arrongant-assed smirk of his. It won't be long before he starts telling people that they need to listen to him because he is Joe-Fucking-Biden.

Obama may have just elevated himself to King of the Morons. Sorry, Ace.

Posted by: Steve L. at August 23, 2008 04:44 AM (/Gfsd)

228 If only McCain could have the brains to pick Palin now...not only does she bring in the women, but he should promise to give her the full-time job of rooting out corruption and waste in Washington, which is what she is really good at.

Give Sarah Palin the resources of the FBI and set her loose on Congress like Torquemada and the fucking Spanish Inquisition. That will bring a LOT of folks back to the Republican Party and set us up nicely for 2012.

An old-fashioned purge of the leftover Commies in the State Department, the Education Department, and the CIA would be nice, too.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 23, 2008 04:46 AM (ubHgw)

229

Let me be the first to say it...

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

Posted by: sherlock at August 23, 2008 04:47 AM (ojW85)

230 That McCain ad is going to draw blood. Its not even McCain attacking Obama, its his fucking running mate.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 23, 2008 04:54 AM (6L459)

231 What's with this Palin horseshit? Anyone ever listen to her? Even Biden would chew her up and spit her out. And how does massive corporate tax increases and free money giveaways fit into "fiscal conservatism"? Palin will be long forgotten in four years.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 23, 2008 04:59 AM (3lXty)

232 Lowandslow, then how do you explain Palin's stellar approval ratings? 80s and 90s? My God...

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 23, 2008 05:04 AM (ubHgw)

233

You all know the trailing "n" in "Biden" is silent, right?

Posted by: sherlock at August 23, 2008 05:06 AM (ojW85)

234 By sending the text message at 3 a.m., were they snarking about Hillary's "Who do want to answer the phone?" advertisement?

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 23, 2008 05:10 AM (ubHgw)

235 Fox News just recently played the video of El Rushbo's show where he wished & prayed that Biden would be the nominee. The Obamessiah just made El Rushbo's week! Fox Weekend tried to get him on the show, but the Great One declined, saying he was getting organized for the next week. Yeah, that's what Teh Obamessiah campaign's careful strategery has earned them!

Posted by: exdem13 at August 23, 2008 05:11 AM (fenBi)

236 I think that, as we speak, the PUMAs must all be heading to Denver to help Recreate '68 fill balloons with urine.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 23, 2008 05:11 AM (ubHgw)

237

My fantasy: at noon today, just as the big Obama / Odumber / '08 rally is kicking off, McCain announces his VP pick is Palin.... or Steele.

Smack!

And my popcorn futures investments are doing very nicely, thanks!

Posted by: sherlock at August 23, 2008 05:34 AM (ojW85)

238 Told ya. Stupid choice, but Senator Obama isn't running a smart campaign.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 23, 2008 05:42 AM (0+Ggj)

239 JoBama? Yo Mama!

Posted by: captkidhussseiney at August 23, 2008 05:54 AM (TVjed)

240 "...double down on Palin." Mmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Posted by: TomJW at August 23, 2008 06:52 AM (ppKNT)

241

Probably a double post because my Air Force comm nazi's block a lot of traffic from this site, but I wanted to post an excerpt from an old column of Jonah Goldberg's. Every time I see Biden I think of this column (Jonah also posted this on the corner):

He says interesting things, from time to time. I think he makes a fair point here and there. He was correct, for example, that Congress needed to have a real deabte over the war. I think he has some obvious verbal intelligence. But, again, what's fascinating — and what might be distracting some folks from seeing his underlying-yet-occassional smarts — is that he lets his ego and vanity get in the way. The man loves his voice so much, you'd expect him to be following it around in a grey Buick, in defiance of restraining order, as it walks home from school. He seems to think his teeth are some kind of hypnotic punctuation marks which can momentarily disorient the listener and absolve him from any of Western civilization's usual imperatives to stop talking. Listening to him speechify is like playing an intellectual game of whack-a-mole where every now and then the fuzzy head of a good point pops up from the tundra but before you can pin it down, he starts talking about how he went to the store and saw a squirrel on the way and it was brown which brings to mind Brown V. Board of Ed which most people don't understand because [TEETH FLASH] he taught Brown in his law school course and [TEETH FLASH] Mr. Chairman I'm going to get right to it and besides these aren't the droids you're looking for..

Posted by: phat at August 23, 2008 07:15 AM (7Dt96)

242 "What does Delaware have as a contribution to the country other than the most expensive state to pass in terms of highway tolls per mile?

Well, they don't have a sales tax. I bought my last 2 PCs, my HDTV, and a lot of smokes in the 1st state. Saved thousands,

Otherwise, the state exists to give people from Jersey someone to feel superior to."

So some guy from Jersey is looking down on Delaware?

All you need to know about New Jersey is this: the toll booths for the Delaware river bridges are on the Delaware side. Thus, it's free to enter new Jersey, but you have to pay to get out. Which thousands of people gleefully do every day.

Posted by: Blue hen at August 23, 2008 07:47 AM (rSo39)

243 I can't believe he picked Biden. The only person worse than that gibbering fool would be you.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at August 23, 2008 08:22 AM (MMC8r)

244

Esposito,

I agree! I'm probably the only person more capable of dicking up the Democratic ticket than Biden.

Well, wickedpinto could screw it up pretty good. maybe nicedeb...and MCPO Airdale...and mesablue. OK, I admit to being a moron and a Hostage and much more competent than Biden when it comes to screwing up the Dem ticket.

Posted by: phat at August 23, 2008 08:30 AM (7Dt96)

245 Well, we know that 'Mr' Esposito must be from Trenton. Of course there, his first name is not only common, it's an apt descriptor.

Posted by: Blue hen at August 23, 2008 08:31 AM (rSo39)

246 but seriously folks, the thought that my quaint little state is inflicting such an unoriginal, dim politician is depressing. But then, I've had cause to think that during every SCOTUS hearing for the last twenty years, and for the same reason

Posted by: Blue hen at August 23, 2008 08:33 AM (rSo39)

247 I don't understand this conservative need to be politically correct. If you were to make up a list of all the Americans who could step into the job of President of the United States tomorrow and have most Americans be confident he could do a reasonably good job from day one, Jindal, Palin and Steele would not be on that list. An old Washington hand like Biden knows where the levers of power are and something about their limits. He's watched the executive branch at work for 36 years now. I think McCain loves America too much to put someone a heartbeat away from the Presidency who isn't ready. So who does McCain think is ready to to be President of the United States?

Also if McCain picks someone inexperienced to run with, he will be discarding his main message of today. How would he ask "Is Obama ready to lead?" if his VP has the same problem? Purely a practical effect but maybe the McCain camp can sometimes be practical too.

Posted by: fredras at August 23, 2008 09:44 AM (ZHsEK)

248 All this hype and lead up and we get Biden?

Biden??

This is like bringing a hot babe home after a date on the night you know you're gonna get laid.

Candlelight.

Soft music on the stereo.

Making out on the sofa.

Then squirting before you get your shorts off.

Posted by: Neil Kinnock at August 23, 2008 10:08 AM (EkLMg)

249 "An old Washington hand like Biden knows where the levers of power are and something about their limits. He's watched the executive branch at work for 36 years now."

Yes. Unfortunately, he spent those 36 years grasping those levers for himself and himself only. he may have watched the Executive Branch, but he has scant respect for it or for its role. His games during the confirmation hearing proves this.

You also neglected the fact that this flies in the face of the "hope and Change" that the Obama campaign is supposedly about.

Posted by: Blue hen at August 23, 2008 10:13 AM (rSo39)

250 My point, Blue hen, was that if McCain were to follow the advice of some here he would be making a worse choice than Biden by McCain's own standards.

I think McCain will choose Romney. YMMV.

Posted by: fredras at August 23, 2008 11:12 AM (ZHsEK)

251 Honestly, Stinky, was there need to go with personal attacks? Hope / Dope '08

Posted by: thirtypundit at August 23, 2008 02:31 PM (VAB1J)

252

Then squirting before you get your shorts off.

Don't go, Nadia! I've got...reserves!

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