1 Um, is that math right?

2 I ate the other 4 delegates.

3 If they don't include Michigan, people will be pissed. If they include Michigan and favor Clinton, people will be pissed. If they include Michigan and favor Obama, people will be pissed. If they include Michigan and split the delegates 50/50, people will be pissed.

Welcome to the no-win situation! This primary just gets more fun every day.

4 They told me there would be no math in this meaningless state primary.

5 Joanie, no need to take credit for Michael Moore's accomplishments.

6

If they don't include Michigan, people will be pissed. If they include Michigan and favor Clinton, people will be pissed. If they include Michigan and favor Obama, people will be pissed. If they include Michigan and split the delegates 50/50, people will be pissed.

Welcome to the no-win situation! This primary just gets more fun every day.

Yeah, it would be a lot funner if we had a better candidate than McCain though.

And to the 'tards out there- no, the Bircheresque Crank does not fit the bill.

7 Awarding results regardless of the actual vote. The Democrats learned how to try and do this in Florida in 2000.

8 If that's how they're playing it, Razor-H should have asked for more in her original proposal. That way, when they split the difference she would have ended up in better position.

Hell, let's just do all the elections this way from now on.

9 Robert Mugabe dismisses these guys as rookies.

10 And the best part is that Rev. Al and Jesse J are fueling up their jets as we speak in their efforts to bring their traveling circuses wherever they feel "the call".

11

Rock Paper Scissors for all the marbles would make more sense than this.

12 ^or a game of Twister.

13 One potato, two potato? Eenie, Meenie?

14

7 Awarding results regardless of the actual vote. The Democrats learned how to try and do this in Florida in 2000.

Well it is their primary so they're always free to go back to the smoke-filled room of the past if they want. The problem here is that they're changing the rules after the fact.

Regardless of the rules, in the end it comes down to the Credentials Committee and Howard Dean. If they seat all of Hillary's FL delegates, there isn't anything Obama can do except complain.

15

Couldn't they solve all of this by giving Obama a sex change?

16

No matter what happens.

No matter how this turns out.

I'm *still* going to be the Gold Standard, baby.

Gold. Standard.

17 Dems want to run the country, hell they can't even select a nominee.  I predict that the general election will have to be posponed until after the court battles following their convention.

18 16 No matter what happens.

No matter how this turns out.

I'm *still* going to be the Gold Standard, baby.

Gold. Standard.

Just like an aging self-absorbed baby-boomer, Chicago '68 underestimates the new generation of leftist thumbsuckers.  He doubts their ability to self-destruct at a Democrat Convention.  This is just flat-out wrong.  Senator Barry has proven he can lead his lemmings followers right over a cliff.

Can They Do It?

Yes They Can!

19

Is there still anyone who thinks, either one of these buffoons can be elected, if they're nominated?

McCain can't possibly be that much of a Poopy-head.

20 ^and that is depressing. It's like wanting a Lewinski, and all you have to choose from is Monica, your wife's fat ass friend, or your shemale coworker.

21

"McCain can't possibly be that much of a Poopy-head."

Oh, yes he can.

22

Is there still anyone who thinks, either one of these buffoons can be elected, if they're nominated?

McCain can't possibly be that much of a Poopy-head.

Hard to say.  If he acts the wuss and sticks to his pronounced plan to run a positive campaign without going negative (or allowing others to do so), he could very easily be beaten.  As much dirt as Obama and Hillary have on them, it would be insane not to use it- they'll certainly go negative (themselves or through third parties, including MSM allies) on him.

23 Hey, it's not our fault that McCain is a sleazebag, while Hillary is a warrior for the common folk, and Obama (PBUH) shoots race-healing rainbows out his ass.  We're completely impartial!

24 They already are going negative on Mccain.

Gleefully laughing at how they can make him look older by accentuating his POW-typical gut.  Going on and on about 100 years of peaceful presence in Iraq, kinda like Japan carbombs.

Obama is an extremist.  All his supporters are extremists, and they are so left, they are totally unable to distinguish a very moderate Mccain from Bush.  To them, there is no difference, even after years of Mccain complaining about Bush policies.

But we all pretend that Mccain is the only one who can go negative.  I prefer for him to stay in his comfort zone, talk about issues, and let the rest of us hammer Obama.  Mccain is laying the groundwork for a bitter, bitter set of attacks on Obama and his terrorist friends... that Mccain will not have any association with.  If anything, the attackers will also be saying "jeez, too bad we've got Mccain!" and "Mccain is too damn nice!". 

One think Reagen democrats love about Mccain is that the far right hates him.  It's really a huge plus electorally, and I hope it has coattails for the next congress.

25 Yeah you can pretty much rely on the party leadership to crap on the voters.

26

's anybody really know what time it is?

,s anybody really care?!

27 They aren't counting the votes right.  They need to be re-examined for voter intention.  If they did that, Gore would end up with at least 40-50 delegates.  Come on, haven't we learned anything from 2000.

28 Any word from Rev. Jerry?

29 Hollowpoint, has Franken succeeded in making Minnesota purple yet?  Who is more popular in MN, Barry or Hillary?  I think a dem ticket with Obama and Franken could possibly put MN in play?

30

Only Obama cares about the black voters, the Dem party does not.  They will find a way to throw the supers to Hillary,  Its still 4 months till the convention, plenty of time to show Barrack as the simpering fool he is.

31 Explain this to me. 

No one made Obama withdraw he could have left his name on the ballot.  The fact that he didn't is his fault so he should get ZERO delegates. 

32 This is good for us for the simple reason that it's back in the news. As long as we're talking about FL and MI, it will stay fresh in those people's minds as we get closer to election day.

ALSO: "Carrier" on PBS sucks. Half of today's 2 episodes are a commentary about Iraq and the WOT. That black girl (with the buck-teeth) is especially stupid and ignorant.

33 ^
shut up, sugar tits

34

Hollowpoint, has Franken succeeded in making Minnesota purple yet?  Who is more popular in MN, Barry or Hillary?  I think a dem ticket with Obama and Franken could possibly put MN in play?

Well, with his recent tax fiasco he seems to be trying, if unintentionally.

I live in Minneapolis; Obama is definitely more popular in the Twin Cities proper- Minneapolis has a large population of college students (Ron Paul!) and younger voters along with a lot of lower income "ethnic" voters.

St. Paul has a significant Hispanic population and is overall a bit older and middle class; I'd guess Obama is a lot more popular in Minneapolis than in St. Paul- how much more I don't know.

Outstate is very white, more socially conservative (bitter!) and would favor Hillary- though I suspect McCain would pick up more than a few outstate Dems, even if McCain's opposition to ethanol subsidies would hurt him among the agricultural community somewhat.

Minnesota hasn't gone red since 1972.  However McCain (who I have big problems with) has a pretty good chance of doing well here.  Franken will do well among college kids, young professionals and party line Democrats, but so far I'd say his chances aren't good.  His best chance is to go negative on Coleman and make him out to be a Bush clone.

Franken has Minnesota roots, but he doesn't have a very strong connection to the state.  People laugh about Ventura (understandably), but he at least was a suburban mayor and radio host before getting elected.  Franken is only vaguely from here- I don't think having him as a VP pick would help all that much in MN.  Not that Hillary or Obama would be dumb enough to pick him.

And needless to say, the Star Tribune will shill for the Dems and attack the Republicans.  Water also wet.

35

Explain this to me. 

No one made Obama withdraw he could have left his name on the ballot.  The fact that he didn't is his fault so he should get ZERO delegates. 

Both are supposed to get ZERO delegates from MI under the rules at the time of the primaries there.

Not that I care if Hillary gets delegates and Obama gets none- the ensuing bloodbath would be fun to watch.  From beyond rock-throwing range, anyways.

36

The thing I'm unable to gauge is whether or not the Dems' changing of the rules on the fly will help or hurt with the squishy middle... my guess is that it won't make a bit of difference.

tmi3rd

37

tmi3rd --

I agree with you -- no difference at all.  It's way too 'inside baseball' for the general electorate (read: idiots) to care.  You can't even make a good news story out of it -- no drama.

Hillary should have them seated as long as she doesn't push too hard.  Small majority for her is fine.  Huge majority might make it a real news item.

38 Dems want to run the country, hell they can't even select a nominee. I predict that the general election will have to be posponed until after the court battles following their convention. This is actually a plausible R-tard democrat STUNT scenario that republicans should be prepared for.

39 to add...Democrats have shown they do not abide or like rules (laws) they are all there to be broken

40 Democrats making complicated rules without thinking through the consequences? Hmm.

41 If only we can keep this circus going until, say, November 2012, we might be able to cancel this election and get a new batch of candidates.

42

With the Liberals, the circus is always in town.

Ixney on canceling the election. There might be a troll lurking and warn KOS to our evil plans!

43
"Yeah you can pretty much rely on the party leadership to crap on the voters." Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Its no more than we deserve for being racist, sexist elitists.

44 I can't believe this shit. Passing edicts then violating them, making the rules as you go along, then changing them- this is shit that would get you thrown out of a card game at age 6.

Dear Democrats: Bon appetit.

45 Hermit Dave -- please be careful referring to people who don't spend as much time as we do wonking over this stuff as "idiots" because of it. Although I realize we it sucks to admit, there's no real evidence yet that us "splitting atoms with our heads morons" make better choices in the long run than those "idiots." It could be that choosing a President based on your gut feeling about how they'll react in a crisis is better than all the political analysis and inside baseball in the world. Not saying it is, just that it could be, and I'm not willing to call people who don't waste all their time on sites like this idiots because of it. Maybe they're too busy getting laid or something.

46 How is it that both D candidates can use the Bob the Builder line and no one notices?

Can we do it? Yes we can!

Stop treating me like a 3 year old.

47 What this kind of reminds me of, for some reason, are the smaller fake "political parties" that were "coalition partners" with the Communist Party of East Germany, and always got the same percentage of the vote in their fake elections.

48 I'm not willing to call people who don't waste all their time on sites like this idiots because of it. Maybe they're too busy getting laid or something.

Nah, this is great for multi-tasking . The biggest trick is balancing the laptop on your wife/significant other, but it's only an issue for 3-7 minutes at most.

49

"according to how Democratic bigs figure the public would have voted"--Ace

EXACTLY.

Smoke and mirrors all the way, folks, so get on board the DNC Express.

The DNC is the party against the little people and for the rich fat cats that claim to be the little people, at least when they were younger, or at least their daddy or grampy were little people, or at least they saw a little person in the gutter once upon a time. The "new rich" as known ages past run the DNC, not making the "new rich" democratic by any means of the word. The majority doesn't rule the DNC! And the little people don't determine anything in the DNC.

Today the tax evaders run the DNC, the ones who legislate taxes for all but them to pay. Legislate a tax "holiday" on gasoline? Rather than Big Brother providing the tax break, the DNC will force big business to pay whatever taxes would have been collected. The DNC will never foot its own bills! What a screwed up lot they are; they refuse to take responsibility for being irresponsible as a government while they refuse to allow individual responsibility by assuming the government "right" to be the mommy state. Why should the little people make any decision that could affect the rich fat cat new rich tax evaders adversely? Keep things as they are, dangling carrot programs for the starving masses to salivate and focus on, while plotting how to become more PURELY totalitarian nationally and globally. Such fine "intentions", looking out for the little people, doing what is best for the rich fat cats who deny any relevance of the original Constitution. Why should something so trivial as a VOTE matter in the DNC masterplan community? Voters didn't "develop" the masterplan; they just buy a share of nothingness to rub shoulders in line together.

Sad thing about the mirrors when the eyes can't see through the smoke to recognize oneself at face value. Those "green" hypocritical liars are producing all that smoke and haze. Call it a BBQ and everyone buys a plate at the DNC chow down. The liberally corrupted meat and hijacked slaw have gone sour. Just because you smother it all in the finest propaganda sauce ever doesn't mean the diner won't pay in digestive spades.

Conservatives must now persist in defining progressives as the worst of the worst hypocrites full of gaseous intentions that only amount to sorrow and despair on the ground.

Nit pick the vote and nit pick the payment plan -- GO GOP!

50

his supporters are extremists, and they are so left, they are totally unable to distinguish a very moderate Mccain from Bush.  To them, there is no difference, even after years of Mccain complaining about Bush policies.

You can?

WTF? GEORGE BUSH is apparently some sort of arch-conservative, unlike the very moderate (yay!) McCain.

God you people suck.

I quit.

51

The DNC will never foot its own bills!

How totally unlike the RNC....

What a screwed up lot they are; they refuse to take responsibility for being irresponsible as a government while they refuse to allow individual responsibility by assuming the government "right" to be the mommy state.

Yeah..that R, err, DNC....

52 That's it. I'm voting for Entropy. That's Entropy, not entropy. Little 'e' entropy always wins.

53 Couldn't they solve all of this by giving Obama a sex change?

He's already part-way there, since lately he's proven that he has no testicles.

54 I'm listening to some ABC reporter talking about how fucked up the donks nomination process. They tried to rush through a candidate early thereby bypassing a vetting system. Now, they are stuck with this lightening rod Obama. Obama wins caucus states but Clinton would win the election.

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