September 24, 2008
— Ace Remember yesterday? Ah, sweet sweet memories of 24 hours past. How outrageously young we were, and how foolishly alive.
But that's in the past. Those days, like the Road Warrior, now live only... in our memories.
The Democrats, only caring about covering their asses politically and not giving a rat's ass about whether the economy went into a depression or not (upside? depressions breed socialists like cockroaches), announced that without the strong support and vote of John McCain personally, they would refuse to vote in favor of any bailout and the bill would be dead.
So crucial was McCain that Reid put out the word McCain would vote for the bailout, in order to get Republicans on board with it. (Lindsey Graham floated a similar rumor -- untrue, as it turns out -- that McCain was on board with the Gang of 20 to try to garner more support.)
But a lot can happen in 24 hours. Specifically, our Brave Leader Obama has decided he doesn't want to show up for his actual job organizing the community of the US Senate.
And so we turn the page.
Now that Barack Obama has decided his fundraising is more important than dealing with the greatest financial crisis since the Great Depression, Harry Reid doesn't want McCain (or Obama) around.
Video! Here's Reid, yesterday, demanding McCain come to Washington:
Now that McCain's said yes and, who knows, just might succeed in heading this crisis off, Reid tells him to stay away.
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Posted by: moronizer at September 24, 2008 01:19 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: billypaintbrush at September 24, 2008 01:19 PM (IiVm2)
Posted by: pollwatcher at September 24, 2008 01:20 PM (wgLRl)
Posted by: East Bay patriot at September 24, 2008 01:21 PM (h/5U0)
Posted by: Amused Observer at September 24, 2008 01:23 PM (h0aKI)
Posted by: Diderot's dog at September 24, 2008 01:23 PM (nrD02)
Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2008 01:23 PM (muUqs)
NY Times headline
"McCain attempts to back out of debate"
"Campaign in disarray over new poll number at Daily Kos"
Posted by: Kempermanx at September 24, 2008 01:25 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at September 24, 2008 01:26 PM (TXp3z)
Posted by: Iblis at September 24, 2008 01:26 PM (9221z)
Posted by: S. Weasel at September 24, 2008 01:27 PM (Dy8+A)
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at September 24, 2008 01:30 PM (ltwze)
Posted by: Fresh Air at September 24, 2008 01:32 PM (HHGT+)
Really, what this whole campaign is doing is making it clear that the Democrat Party believes that literally everything you do or say is correct as long as you are black.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at September 24, 2008 01:32 PM (E3Yxq)
Posted by: slider at September 24, 2008 01:33 PM (AMhGD)
Posted by: rdbrewer at September 24, 2008 01:33 PM (CrSOk)
"But Democratic leaders, who said they hope to approve the bailout plan by the end of the week, were having their own trouble rallying the rank and file. House Democrats summoned to a lunchtime meeting to discuss the proposal yesterday received a glossary of financial terms, such as "credit default swap" and "illiquid assets."
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 24, 2008 01:34 PM (uCgHM)
>people will be after Hopichangelo with pitchforks and torches. Me first!
they'll have to fight thru a phalanx of NYTimes reporters to get to The One
Posted by: Jones CO at September 24, 2008 01:34 PM (KOkrW)
Wow... I hadn't heard that. will search.
Posted by: unnamed blogger disappointed by lack of reaction at September 24, 2008 01:36 PM (1WR4H)
Posted by: rdbrewer at September 24, 2008 01:38 PM (CrSOk)
He's now blabbing about how he and his fellow Democrats don't want presidential politics to get involved with this.
Yet just yesterday, guess who said guess what:
(Barney) Frank said he spoke with Obama on Sunday and has "talked to people on his economic team. They've been talking to the speaker" too, he said. Congressional aides said Democrats want to "stay on the same page" with the Obama campaign.
Somebody needs to grab Nancy Pelosi by Dingy Harry's balls and ask them to both explain that one.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at September 24, 2008 01:40 PM (E3Yxq)
I can't go to the Senate and help solve the financial crisis, "that's above my paygrade"
-Barry Obamuh
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 24, 2008 01:42 PM (5GNS+)
Posted by: barak obama at September 24, 2008 01:44 PM (2J+Vs)
McCain: Barry, we should go to Washington and come up with a solution to the current financial crisis and do our duty to the American people.
Barry: Let them eat cake.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 24, 2008 01:48 PM (5GNS+)
DD, would that be this Barney Frank:
I want to begin by saying that I am glad to consider the legislation, but I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis. That is, in my view, the two government sponsored enterprises we are talking about here, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not in a crisis. We have recently had an accounting problem with Freddie Mac that has led to people being dismissed, as appears to be appropriate. I do not think at this point there is a problem with a threat to the Treasury.
I must say we have an interesting example of self-fulfilling prophecy. Some of the critics of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac say that the problem is that the Federal Government is obligated to bail out people who might lose money in connection with them. I do not believe that we have any such obligation. And as I said, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy by some people.
So let me make it clear, I am a strong supporter of the role that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac play in housing, but nobody who invests in them should come looking to me for a nickel--nor anybody else in the Federal Government. And if investors take some comfort and want to lend them a little money and less interest rates, because they like this set of affiliations, good, because housing will benefit. But there is no guarantee, there is no explicit guarantee, there is no implicit guarantee, there is no wink-and-nod guarantee. Invest, and you are on your own.
Now, we have got a system that I think has worked very well to help housing. The high cost of housing is one of the great social bombs of this country. I would rank it second to the inadequacy of our health delivery system as a problem that afflicts many, many Americans. We have gotten recent reports about the difficulty here.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have played a very useful role in helping make housing more affordable, both in general through leveraging the mortgage market, and in particular, they have a mission that this Congress has given them in return for some of the arrangements which are of some benefit to them to focus on affordable housing, and that is what I am concerned about here. I believe that we, as the Federal Government, have probably done too little rather than too much to push them to meet the goals of affordable housing and to set reasonable goals. I worry frankly that there is a tension here.
The more people, in my judgment, exaggerate a threat of safety and soundness, the more people conjure up the possibility of serious financial losses to the Treasury, which I do not see. I think we see entities that are fundamentally sound financially and withstand some of the disastrous scenarios. And even if there were a problem, the Federal Government doesn't bail them out. But the more pressure there is there, then the less I think we see in terms of affordable housing.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.htmlPosted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 24, 2008 01:51 PM (4ZOxD)
Posted by: rdbrewer at September 24, 2008 01:51 PM (CrSOk)
Posted by: notropis at September 24, 2008 01:53 PM (evPvV)
Posted by: JB at September 24, 2008 01:54 PM (qxc7J)
Posted by: XBradTC at September 24, 2008 02:00 PM (QiOZE)
"What a clusterfuck it is going to be if the Dem's get all three gov't branches."
That is pretty much the talking point I have used today with people.
No one I know has any coherent response. The Ozombies at work were aimless with random almost half-hearted attacks (Coward! Showboating! Old! Palin's something bad!).
I have no idea of what the news is right now so I am going to go catch up.
I am pleased to see that is the normal gaggle of morons flailing about Ace's place. All is normal.
Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 24, 2008 02:07 PM (2PwTK)
Posted by: GarandFan at September 24, 2008 02:07 PM (eJ32B)
Snort!!! Teh Messiah objetced to McCain going to DC and asking for a delay in debate by saying presidents ought to be able to do more than one thing at a time, from more than one place
And what has B. Hussein actually DONE one at a time, from any single place?
And where was this attitude when the Moore-ons jeered that Boooosh should have immediately flown back to D.C. on 9/11?
Fuck'em all. Ace's masthead is starting to look like a call to action.
Posted by: fulldroolcup at September 24, 2008 02:09 PM (fH1BE)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 24, 2008 02:09 PM (5GNS+)
NO ONE will hear this stuff. No one is going to ever know that Reid yesterday said McCain was vital to passage, and today irrelevant and harmful. Already, Letterman is mocking McCain and calling him old and feeble, unable to "multitask" ala "the One" and it's working.
People are laughing at McCain and praising "the One" who will not be held accountable for any of the inevitably messy compromises in the bill. Who probably won't even vote on it. Will be protected by the media.
McCain does not know how to win against Obama, the polls are all consistent and have Obama up by either 9 or 6 or 5 or 4 points. Depending on which poll you look at.
Obama is winning, he's winning big, because people blame Bush and McCain. It's not accurate, it's not fair, it's not realistic but the Media is in the tank so heavily that no one will ever know about Obama being paid by Freddie and Fannie to the tunes of hundreds of thousands.
Obama, at this point, is going to win not by ten but by fifteen points or more. Landslide. He can use the crisis too to suspend great whacking parts of the Constitution and make himself President for Life. With the landslide in Congress he'll get it done too, with the cheerleading of the Media.
We need a game changer. McCain has lost whatever skills his staff had, they are clueless and idiotic. Obama gets the entire debate to himself, and makes McCain even more responsible to voters for the whole mess. While Obama's campaign goes unanswered for weeks. Meanwhile, where the heck is Mitt, Rudy, Fred, and Huck? Why aren't they being sent out to attack?
All you morons, we need a big defensive play. Not a stop but a turnover. No one is ever going to see or read Newt's points. No one is going to see this blog. We need a viral video, up on Youtube, that mocks the "One" and his run away from responsibility. His lack of leadership. His inability to put country first. Something to end run around Letterman and Leno and the rest.
We need to drag Maverick over the finish line the way the Giants D dragged their offense the last five games or so. Including the Superbowl.
No one is going to know about Reid's ever changing positions. Unless WE tell them.
Short, sweet, 30 seconds. I'd do it but I lack even minimal skills.
Posted by: whiskey at September 24, 2008 02:16 PM (4878o)
If substantial progress on a bail out isn't made tomorrow (and I mean real serious progress), Friday will be a very bad day on Wall Street.
Prepare yourselves.
I'm not sure what preparation is best, though. Maybe stock up on your favorite booze, clean out the bong and lay in some good weed. I dunno.
Here's one tip: if you're heavily invested in the market, stay away from high windows.
I'm not usually this pessimistic, and predicting the future is always stupid. So, now that I've predicted the doom on Friday, everything will probably be O.K.
You can thank me later. Just my way of taking one for the team.
Posted by: SlaveDog at September 24, 2008 02:21 PM (H6Jyg)
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Posted by: Shill at September 24, 2008 02:37 PM (8jYMc)
Posted by: Ann at September 24, 2008 03:06 PM (c3H+i)
#34 Whiskey: We need a viral video, up on Youtube, that mocks the "One"
Well, being a moron you could try to rough out an inital storyboard, then maybe do public searches to locate video clips that fit your points, work on a dialogue for voice over.
Then maybe email it to say, Ace, to see if he likes the concept & is willing to forward your email to any production mided morons he might know.
Or you could depend on the Hope that someone else will solve that problem you identify.
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On a different note I have learned a new word while reading news:
Warmonglers Yep, that be McCain and Palin. Who knew?
Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 24, 2008 03:11 PM (2PwTK)
Posted by: greg at September 24, 2008 03:15 PM (eN3hX)
BTW, dick move, Greg.
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Posted by: andrew sullivan at September 24, 2008 04:09 PM (zITw9)
Obama's tough though. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. He's already gone, and not coming back. That, I submit, is tough.
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Where's the frothing lunacy, the deep ignorance, the sheer hatred?
It was re-edited, wasn't it?
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