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September 24, 2008

Ha Ha Ha: Michael Goldfarb Pwns Andrew Sullivan
— Ace

Sullivan keeps writing Goldfarb demanding he provide proof Trig is Sarah Palin's son.

So Michael Goldfarb sent the emails to Howard Kurtz, who reprinted Sullivan's insanity for the world to see. Here are two of Sullivan's emails:

"I'm very sorry to say, it's come to this: can you confirm on the record that Trig Palin is Sarah Palin's biological son? . . . Since this is a crazy idea, it should be easy for you or someone to let me know, the most popular one-man political blog site in the world, what the truth is."
...
""I asked a simple question akin to asking whether you can confirm that the sky is blue. Here's the question in case it got lost: can you confirm on the record that Trig Palin is Sarah Palin's biological son? Can I please get a response of some sort, even if it is that you will not respond?"

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Sullivan titles his typically po-me post "The Crime of Committing Journalism."

Journalism. Since when were you ever a journalist, Sullivan? This has got to be the first story you've ever actually bothered to "pursue," in your own fashion.

By the way, Sullivan, Howie Kurtz is "committing the crime of journalism," too, by revealing your insanity to the world. That, my deranged idiot, is far more newsworthy a story than "proof" that Trig is Sarah Palin's biological son.

Insanity. Here's the Daily Dementia:

The Crime of Committing Journalism
I should reiterate two critical things: I have never claimed that Trig Palin is not Sarah Palin's biological son.

Bullshit, you have insinuated it two dozen times. Furthermore, I have seen emails in which you make it quite plain what you believe.

In fact, I have gone to enormous lengths never to say that, going silent for two days to figure it out and decided to leave it alone. Why? Because I had no proof of anything, only questions.

You went silent because gay gossip site and antisemitic conspiracy newslettter The Atlantic told you stop with the Trig Trutherism, because you were embarrassing a once-reputable magazine. So you went into a snit-- a hissy-fit strike -- for two days.

Since then, I have raised legitimate policy questions about what is undisputed in the public record, but I have not made any statements of fact I do not know to be true. That's my job.

No, it's not. Is Chelsea Clinton actually Webb Hubbell's daughter? Rumors have swirled for years, and the resemblance is uncanny. But that doesn't mean that it's anyone's "job" to constantly flog this rumor.

But I also expected the McCain campaign to do their job and at some point to provide evidence or a public statement setting the record straight, which they could persumably very easily do.

Their job has nothing to do with reassuring paranoid schizophrenics.

So I waited three weeks, watched two interviews, scanned Nexis and Google for any confirmation of actual evidence, and then privately asked Goldfarb and two other people I know and like in the McCain campaign to confirm the evidentiary truth on the record. I did not raise this issue in public.

You've raised it in public over and over again, which is why gay gossip site and antisemetic conspiracy newsletter The Atlantic told you to stop.

I asked a question in private. But it has now been made public by Goldfarb and Kurtz, and since they are now in the public domain, here are the two emails I sent Goldfarb and he got Kurtz to reprint...

[emails already quoted above.]

You're lucky, Sullivan, they didn't print one of your ALL CAPS CONSPIRATORIAL LUNATIC EXCLAMATION POINT SCREED!!!! emails.

I got no response, so I let it drop.

No you didn't. You jump at any pretext to savage the Palin children and "raise questions" about her "bizarre" behavior.

Like everyone else, I have been trying to get some answers to some factual questions from the McCain campaign but they refuse to provide them.

No, you're asking insane questions no sane person asks. If Michael Goldfarb is gaslighting a lunatic for sport, well, maybe that's not nice, but I can hardly blame him for it.

But for the McCain campaign to go to these lengths, violating core confidentiality of private good-faith questions...

Did this cocksucker just accuse someone else of violating the standards of fair play and decency?

... is something that has never happened to me before in journalism. I am also amazed that a fellow journalist would publish such emails in full. But since this is now all in the open, you deserve to know what your blogger has been trying to do in private for three weeks: just get a factual answer to a factual question on the record.
They won't. They cannot take the time to confirm on the record that Trig is Sarah's biological son, but they will try to smear the person asking. What does that tell you?

It tells me you're 1) insane and 2) the laughingstock of the political world.

Revealed! Andrew Sullivan's Email Correspondence with the Blond Guy from 80's Synth Pop Group Wang Chung:

From: dailydish@TheAtlantic.com
To: Blond Guy from Wang Chung
Re: Batman
are you ever going to produce evidence you are not Batman?
-- andrew
...
From: Blond Guy from Wang Chung
To: Andrew Sullivan
Re: Batman

WHAT?
...
From: dailydish@TheAtlantic.com
To: Blond Guy from Wang Chung
Re: Batman
where are the records? i'm asking a simple question, akin to asking if the sky is blue.
are you batman?
-- andrew
...
From: Blond Guy from Wang Chung
To: Andrew Sullivan
Re: Batman
Pardon me, is this some sort of prank for remember the 80s or something?
...
From: dailydish@TheAtlantic.com
To: Blond Guy from Wang Chung
Re: Batman
that's a very "bruce wayne-ish" evasion.
Batman!

-- andrew
...

From: Blond Guy from Wang Chung
To: Andrew Sullivan
Re: Batman
Look, I don't know who you are, and I don't know if I'm being pranked, but I can assure you I am not Batman.
For one thing, I am a physically ordinary man. I'm slight and I'm fifty six years old. For another thing, I vote Labour in England. The politics are all wrong.
For a third thing, Batman does not exist.
...
From: dailydish@TheAtlantic.com
To: Blond Guy from Wang Chung
Re: Batman
only the batman would deny the existence of batman.
BATMAN! BATMAN! BATMAN!
BAT-FUCKER! DIRTY DIRTY BATFUCK LIAR!!!
CHRISTIANIST!
...
From: mailer-daemon@yahoo.com: UNDELIVERABLE MESSAGE ERROR
To: dailydish@TheAtlantic.com
Re: Batman
Your last email has been bounced. Your emails to this account appear to have been blocked. If you believe this message was received in error, please contact your system administrator.
...
From: dailydish@TheAtlantic.com
To: mailer-daemon@yahoo.com: UNDELIVERABLE MESSAGE
Re: Batman
BATFUCKERS! BATFUCKERS! YOU'RE ALL IN ON IT!!!
"WHAT WE CANNOT SPEAK OF WE MUST PASS OVER IN SILENCE ." -- MATT HAGEN AKA "CLAYFACE"

Posted by: Ace at 10:51 AM | Comments (121)
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1 IIRC, Andrew was saying he was just airing question that he felt the journalist should pursue. Now he's a journalist.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 24, 2008 10:55 AM (uCgHM)

2 Where are Sullivan's medical records proving that his disease and the drugs he takes due to it haven't severely impaired his mental abilities?

Come on Andi, fair is fair.

Posted by: DrewM. at September 24, 2008 10:55 AM (hlYel)

3 And Ace, in regard to McCain suspending the campaign and out flanking Obama --- see down in the comment thread of that thread the letter McCain wrote to Obama when Obama effed McCain over suggesting they work bipartisan on Lobbyist reform. Don't trust Obama and Mccain didn't.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 24, 2008 10:57 AM (uCgHM)

4 Truly the most pressing issue in this campaign.

Posted by: Penfold at September 24, 2008 11:00 AM (lF2Kk)

5 Lotta questions, all with EXACTLY the same answer. EXACT WORD!

When was Andrew Sullivan a journalist?
When was Andrew Sullivan a writer?
When was Andrew Sullivan a conservative?
When was Andrew Sullivan a man?
When was Andrew Sullivan a respected human being?

Posted by: Larry Sheldon at September 24, 2008 11:00 AM (OmeRL)

6 Only in America, can you lose your mind, have your rantings printed daily and still take three months off each year for vacation.

Posted by: Barry's Tire Gauge at September 24, 2008 11:00 AM (UlUtt)

What a train wreck of a human being.

But I did like the email he posted on his site today.

McCain, largely because of the Palin pick and the aftermath, has lost my respect. He hasn't had my support since Obama announced, but I'm sorry to have to say that I can no longer respect him. I never thought I'd be able to say that about him of all politicians. I'm actually sad about that. As a mid-20s conservative independent, I feel I must support Obama because I want a return to adult, rational governance.

Another Christian Conservative Caves.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2008 11:01 AM (VBon8)

8 Lyndon LaRouche just read that article and said to himself, "Now that Sullivan guy, that guy is nuts."

Posted by: Hit the easy targets hardest at September 24, 2008 11:01 AM (8/0ME)

9 Can some kind heterosexual please explain to Andrew how pregnancies work? Maybe point him to a Wikipedia page or something?

Posted by: Prof. Festus X. at September 24, 2008 11:02 AM (xs9XZ)

Where are Sullivan's medical records proving that his disease and the drugs he takes due to it haven't severely impaired his mental abilities?

Come on Andi, fair is fair.

But of course Andrew will claim that he's not a political candidate like Palin is.

And if he wants to practice journalism, he should investigate and provide some evidence that Trig is not Sarah's baby. Just repeating the question over and over in ever more demanding tones is the badgering of a crank - not journalism.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2008 11:03 AM (hn7Rm)

11 Lyndon LaRouche just read that article and said to himself, "Now that Sullivan guy, that guy is nuts."

Stop that. You just made me audibly snort in a most unprofessorial manner.

Posted by: Prof. Festus X. at September 24, 2008 11:05 AM (xs9XZ)

"But since this is now all in the open, you deserve to know what your blogger has been trying to do in private for three weeks: just get a factual answer to a factual question on the record."

I'm pretty sure that the McCain campaign has already answered this question and Andrew just doesn't like the answer. He keeps raising the bar by redefining what 'answer' and 'on the record' means to guarantee that the McCain campaign hasn't 'answered' the charges.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 24, 2008 11:10 AM (hn7Rm)

13 I read the Kurtz piece, and to me, the real story is George Will doing his best to make sure Obama becomes president.

Once these conservative superstars get their "fuck you" money, they don't care who's president or who's making the laws, because it won't affect them.

George Will is safe and happy behind his millions, so it'll be a lot more exciting and gratifying for him as a pundit if Obama is president and the Congress is Democrat.

The funny thing is, McCain and Palin seem to be the only people on the scene who actually do put their country first.

I wish I agreed more with McCain.

But George Will makes me sick.

Posted by: Tom W. at September 24, 2008 11:10 AM (Hz8Wq)

14 Greetings: Sounds to me like someone's sphincter is wearing out.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 24, 2008 11:11 AM (vqSoQ)

15 I wonder if this guy, Sullivan, has some kind of issue with self-loathing and puts himself out like this in the public eye for the express purpose of being denigrated, similarly in public.

In other words, maybe he's such a jerk-off because he gets off having people watch while he gets a well-deserved spanking.

Naughty boy and all that.

Posted by: Muledriver at September 24, 2008 11:13 AM (btc7a)

16 But I also expected the McCain campaign to do their job and at some point to provide evidence or a public statement setting the record straight, which they could persumably [sic] very easily do.

Yeah, just why won't McCain release pictures of Trig coming out of Palin's vagina anyway ... well, I guess even then someone could have put him there just for the photo. /insanity

Posted by: Andi's drug-induced dementia at September 24, 2008 11:14 AM (EQYOq)

More & more people are realizing Sullivan has lost it regarding Palin. Deadspin (gawker-owned sports blog & probably the biggest sports blog out there by far) yesterday mentioned in one of it's post how insane Sullivan has gone over Palin.

Posted by: T-web at September 24, 2008 11:14 AM (2TgS+)

18 Is Andi really suggesting that a journalist should be able to ask questions of public figures with the expectation that those questions asked are in fact, confidential? I can understand a journalist promising not to compromise a source. But here Andi is demanding that he can ask questions (unsolicitied, btw) and the questions he asks have to be treated as confidential, whereas any answers would be public record. I'm aghast at his arrogance.

Posted by: XBradTC at September 24, 2008 11:15 AM (QiOZE)

19 Ace has been giving me a lot of wood lately. With his words.

Posted by: ricky at September 24, 2008 11:15 AM (muUqs)

20 Would it be beyond the pale to ask that Excitable Andy be surgically examined to see if he has a heart ?

We'll only need the surgeon to do the chest opening. Once the heart, if it exists at all, is exposed, it should remain in full view in the future to see if his heast "shrinks three sizes" when he writes for his blog.

Posted by: Neo at September 24, 2008 11:16 AM (Yozw9)

In your post above, you wrote this about Sullivan's two day absence: "You went silent because gay gossip site and anticonspiracy newslettter The Atlantic told you stop with the Trig Trutherism, because you were embarrassing a once-reputable magazine. So you went into a snit-- a hissy-fit strike -- for two days."

Now, you correctly monikered the gay gossip site and antisemetic conspiracy newletter The Atlantic later in the piece, but just to avoid confusion among those with short attention spans, you might want to edit that reference just so that people don't get the wrong idea about The Atlantic and think that they are an anticonspiracy newsletter.

I write this only because I have a special love for when you refer to one of the oldest and most respected institutions of the now totally disgraced journalism "profession" as a gay gossip site and antisemetic conspiracy newsletter. I actually woke up laughing about that line one day last week. God only knows what I was dreaming about.

Posted by: GD at September 24, 2008 11:17 AM (ynhvR)

22 It's time to do what Ace mentioned several weeks back, and start hitting The Atlantic where it counts.

One of your morons needs to get a copy of the latest issue (or better yet, several recent issues) and compile a list of their advertisers.

We can then do a little Google-fu and run down the media relations contact information for those companies, and post that contact information online, at which point we can contact the Atlantic's advertisers and ask if they really want to be spending their advertising dollars to support gutless editors that allow a conspiracy-mongering brute to savage the paternity of a Down's child and the sully the reputation of his family. We can use the Post article as evidence.

You'd be surprised at how tight the cash-flow in most magazines is.

They want to play rough. Let's play rougher.

Posted by: Bob Owens at September 24, 2008 11:18 AM (zqzYV)

23 Ugh. What should have been an article slapping some sense into Andi turns out to be another McCain/Palin bash by Kurtz.

No presidential or vice presidential candidate in my lifetime has been so shielded from the press.

I should hope so. No presidential or VP candidate has had the press demand to crawl up her va-jay-jay.

Posted by: Booben at September 24, 2008 11:18 AM (4SGur)

24 I should hope so. No presidential or VP candidate has had the press demand to crawl up her va-jay-jay before.

Posted by: Booben at September 24, 2008 11:20 AM (4SGur)

25 Why doesn't Sullivan go up to Todd Palin and just ask him directly? Cause he doesn't want to get straight-up Aldrinned!

Posted by: Schlitz Beer at September 24, 2008 11:20 AM (TXp3z)

Since Andrew is gay, HIV pos (thus immuno-deficient), and probably has ingested due to his proclivities, trillions of individual E. Coli bacteria (perhaps even kilograms of the stuff over years), I have a pertinent question of any medical professionals out there. Does E. Coli have a chance of crossing the brain/blood barrier and if not, do E. Coli enzymes have detrimental effects on brain chemistry?

I ask because I am expecting an on-the-record answer to a rational question - one much more rational than Andrew's.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at September 24, 2008 11:21 AM (Bjbh2)

27 Andi won't be fired. Evah. S. Weasel had a great post showing why.

Posted by: XBradTC at September 24, 2008 11:23 AM (QiOZE)

28 Maybe Kurtz replied but the stormtroopers OPENED HIS MAIL and put the DEVICES INSIDE that make THE REFRIGERATOR TALK TO ME

Posted by: Naomi Wolf at September 24, 2008 11:27 AM (CFjXn)

I'm still furious at Howard Kurtz for refusing any kind of comment on Sullivan's vicious rumormongering. The Chelsea Clinton analogy is exactly right. Nutjobs on the right have flogged that rumor for years, but THEY ARE NUTJOBS. It would have been unthinkable for, say, Hugh Hewitt to have written columns about this rumor and demanded evidence from Hillary Clinton that Bill really is Chelsea's father. No responsible journalist should traffic in such rumors, and a self-styled "media watchdog" like Kurtz should man up and say so! Sullivan is not going to stop until he is shamed into it by people he actually respetcs, like Howard Kurtz.

I'm also furious as a woman to continue to see this bullshit in print, no matter how much it hurts Sullivan to see his ravings published. This is a "blood libel" to a mother. Faking a pregnancy is just about the worst thing you can accuse a woman of childbearing age of doing. I think it is sexist in the extreme to make the accusation, and it is sexist for male journalists like Kurtz not to recognize it and call it out. This is like accusing a Jew of being a closet Nazi. Nobody would get away with that!

Posted by: rockmom at September 24, 2008 11:29 AM (iZqUY)

Gah, as someone who has 4 kids and has had two miscarriages, after the first couple pregnancies, you kinda get the hang of how these things work.

If I'd been in Texas and my doctor was in Alaska you can be damn sure, that if I leaked amniotic fluid, I would go back to my hometown to have the baby if I could get away with it.

I prefer having my babies where I'm most comfortable.

Leaking amniotic fluid does not labor make. I just don't know why this is sooo suspicious.

Posted by: pajama momma at September 24, 2008 11:30 AM (f3xJa)

31 "Their job has nothing to do with reassuring paranoid schizophrenics."

That has to be one of the most perfect responses it has ever been my good fortune to read.

Thank you, Ace.

Posted by: Dianna at September 24, 2008 11:31 AM (qrFCz)

32 ou're lucky, Sullivan, they didn't print one of your ALL CAPS CONSPIRATORIAL LUNATIC EXCLAMATION POINT SCREED!!!! emails.-------

I want to see it.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 24, 2008 11:32 AM (uCgHM)

Note to The Atlantic: You must be very proud.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 24, 2008 11:35 AM (B+qrE)

34 You guys aren't true conservatives

Posted by: Andy Sullivan at September 24, 2008 11:36 AM (teb/C)

I read the comments board on that Howie Kurtz's column. The liberal voting public is batshit crazy.

Posted by: huerfano at September 24, 2008 11:38 AM (knHvu)

36 Someone needs to tell Andi that Occam's Razor is not something you shave your balls with.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 24, 2008 11:41 AM (MMC8r)

37 Ace, You are despicable, dishonest and dishonorable. The most sacrosanct privilege in American law is that which exists with respect to e-mail communications between a journalist and the political campaign he's been accusing of incest for a month (see, New York Times v Taft, 25 U.S. 412 [1908]). "For a candidate to disclose the contents of a confidential, electronically delivered incest inquiry is the moral equivalent of hacking a vice-presidential candidate's private e-mail account and circulating the contents on television or the internet" (Biden v Roosevelt, 31 U.S. 503 [1929]). Furthermore, "as a quasi-governmental activity, a political campaign has no more right to publicize incest e-mails than the government does to steal Naomi Wolf's tax returns" (Wolf v Cheney, 115 U.S. 644 [2008]). If I did not have more patience and steel I would sue you myself.

Posted by: The Raving Atheist at September 24, 2008 11:41 AM (VKn7o)

Whoa. Sullivan needs to dial it down a couple notches.

We're just sayin'.

Posted by: Jim Garrison and Mark Lane at September 24, 2008 11:45 AM (W54Uh)

39 I love Andrew Sullivan's trenchant brilliance.

Posted by: Clay Aiken at September 24, 2008 11:46 AM (T0NGe)

40 He shoulda just asked Lance Winslow.

Posted by: Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight at September 24, 2008 11:48 AM (gIga4)

Leaking amniotic fluid does not labor make. I just don't know why this is sooo suspicious.

Because the people throwing this shit around are either homo or childless. I've only had two children and I knew the whole thing was bullshit immediately.

I'll bet Sarah even faked the swollen ankles and the farts and the greasy hair and the hemorrhoids. Late-stage pregnancy is just a day in the park!

Must....control......fist.....of.....death......

Posted by: rockmom at September 24, 2008 11:48 AM (iZqUY)

42 OT: Barney Frank is a fucking asshole, trying to cover his ass now on Fannie and Freddie. What a complete lying bag of shit he is.

Posted by: rockmom at September 24, 2008 11:50 AM (iZqUY)

43 Why is this British citizen allowed to interfer with an American election?

Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2008 11:52 AM (m2CN7)

44 I hate the fucking press.
I hate the fucking east coast conservative press that thinks they are our betters.

Posted by: Booben at September 24, 2008 11:52 AM (4SGur)

45 Given the campaign's obvious stonewalling on the completely legitimate Trig/Bristol/Pregnancy/Alien Pod-Baby Invaders question I suppose we'll never get to the bottom of the brewing McCain leg-lengthening scandal, are we?

Posted by: Planet Moron at September 24, 2008 11:52 AM (M0rrv)

46 I think it's AIDS related dementia, nothing else can really explain this behavior. It sure is fun to watch, tho. Or not.

Posted by: JimK at September 24, 2008 11:53 AM (i9M8r)

47 Some lefy blog - prairie something - is demanding the McCain camp and WAPO apologize the Andrew for invading his privacy and not respecting his confidentiality or something.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 24, 2008 11:56 AM (uCgHM)

the swollen ankles check

and the farts check

and the greasy hair check

and the hemorrhoids. check

Holy shit! I'm pregnant!

Posted by: JackStraw at September 24, 2008 11:56 AM (VBon8)

49 You know what I'd really like to see? An honest, uncensored, unedited, televised, personal statement by Todd Palin on how he feels about his beloved wife and children being savaged and dissected by the media and the loony left.

Posted by: Elizabeth R at September 24, 2008 11:56 AM (QCjgB)

50 Why does this remind me of Garrison Keillor's lunatic tirade after Norm Coleman won in Minnesota? "I personally don't believe he had anything to do with the crash of Paul's plane. Plenty of people suspect he did. I don't." (My e-mail reply was something like "I personally don't believe that Garrison Keillor has intimate relations with livestock. Plenty of people suspect he does. I don't." Unfortunately, Sullivan is so depraved that no similar sort of "legitimate question" could possibly shame him.)

Posted by: notropis at September 24, 2008 11:57 AM (+FeR9)

Sullivan reminds me of those weird-oids who demand "proof" (a demand that can never be satisfied) that the Moon landing wasn't actually staged in Hollywood. The idea that man might have gone to the Moon for some reason other than fueling paranoia is inconceivable to that kind of solipsistic brain.

No amount of facts can ever shift that kind of brain out of reverse. It's stuck in its ever-inwardly spiralling cycle of decreasing relevance to the outer world, while its own ego assumes massive proportions (in the mirror).

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 24, 2008 12:01 PM (kLWtB)

52 Why is this British citizen allowed to interfer with an American election? The Goebbels of Glutes is no longer a British subject. That's right, kids. The raving fucktard is all ours. Now, doesn't that give you a nice, warm fuzzy feeling?

Posted by: Chef Mojo at September 24, 2008 12:01 PM (ZJCBT)

53 "I wonder if this guy, Sullivan, has some kind of issue with self-loathing and puts himself out like this in the public eye for the express purpose of being denigrated, similarly in public."

This has occurred to me as well.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 24, 2008 12:08 PM (PG3rr)

54 I read Sullivan's post and emailed him immediately. He asked "what does it tell you". I said it told me he was insane, and asked that he please post my response as a "dissent of the day". I won't hold my breath for that to happen.

Posted by: Lynne at September 24, 2008 12:08 PM (3kaLz)

55 I used to dispute your aids-realted dementia argument. No longer. Know hope errrrr no hope

Posted by: dan at September 24, 2008 12:09 PM (EvuNB)

56 I thought he was on a work visa and was going to be tossed out next year if congress didn't change the AIDS legislation?

I have said this before, but he used to have a fine mind and an interesting perspective. Now? What's the technical term? Batshit crazy.

Posted by: iamnotachef at September 24, 2008 12:10 PM (nwJit)

57 Is it wrong of me to laugh when stupid things happen to stupid people?

Posted by: mojo at September 24, 2008 12:11 PM (g1cNf)

58 Someone needs to tell Andi that Occam's Razor is not something you shave your balls with.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at September 24, 2008 04:41 PM (MMC8r)

Your'e killing me, Stink, absolutely killing me! Now, get your ass over here and clean all this dr. pepper off my laptop.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at September 24, 2008 12:11 PM (QMGr1)

59 It's Mikey Slaw, isn't it? Please tell me it's Mikey Slaw. Because if it's Mikey's Law, it'll just break my heart. And you wouldn't want to break a weasel's heart, would you?

Posted by: S. Weasel at September 24, 2008 12:14 PM (Dy8+A)

60 Andy Sullivan: You guys aren't true conservatives

If by "aren't true conservatives" you mean "don't let the baloney pony gallop your shitchutes," you're probably right.

Posted by: Jazz at September 24, 2008 12:16 PM (hnq5i)

Chef Mojo this is the latest wiki on Andi. Is it incorrect?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Sullivan

Posted by: polynikes at September 24, 2008 12:20 PM (m2CN7)

62 "Nutjobs on the right have flogged that rumor for years, but THEY ARE NUTJOBS."

Who you callin a nutjob??

Posted by: Ann at September 24, 2008 12:22 PM (c3H+i)

63 Sullivan isn't an American citizen . . . yet. Currently, HIV positive immigrants aren't allowed to naturalize. This will probably change now that PEPFAR has been signed into law. The HHS Secretary now has the discretion to lift the ban. Technically, if my understanding of the laws are correct, Sullivan isn't even supposed to be in this country. He's often spoken of his fear of being denied re-entry whenever he visits his family in Britain. While I think an HIV ban on immigration is pointless and wrong, I've always wondered how Sullivan was able to flaunt it all this time with no one saying anything.

Posted by: Robbie at September 24, 2008 12:23 PM (zBJRo)

64 what, no one liked the batman thing?

Posted by: unnamed blogger disappointed by lack of reaction at September 24, 2008 12:24 PM (1WR4H)

65 We can't stop here, this is batfucker country.

Posted by: apotheosis at September 24, 2008 12:28 PM (xWk3U)

The whole problem with Sullivan is that he hates women. There is a certain percentage of the male homosexual population that behaves this way, just as there is a certain percentage of the lesbian population that despises men. Keep Sullivan in this perspective. That will explain some of the mindless hatred he spews toward Palin and Hillary Clinton for that matter. He despises all women. Because of his insular and provincial cultural orientation, he has no contact or exposure to women, to the point of not even knowing basic biology! He thinks it's perfectly possible for the Palin girl to have had a baby Trig on Tuesday and then to have become pregnant on Wednesday. That's why he continues his insane crusade. He rejects the idea that female human beings can not become pregnant the next day after delivering a baby. Seriously. He has no concept of human reproduction. None.

Posted by: The Pancake at September 24, 2008 12:29 PM (nug4S)

67 Actually I missed it the first time, but it's pretty good.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 24, 2008 12:31 PM (PG3rr)

ok-

the batman thing was funny.

Posted by: Wankin' Walter at September 24, 2008 12:36 PM (+Okg5)

69 He will not be satisfied until he inspects Bristol's uterus himself.

Posted by: chomp at September 24, 2008 12:36 PM (hJyZg)

One of your morons needs to get a copy of the latest issue (or better yet, several recent issues) and compile a list of their advertisers. ...

We can use the Post article as evidence.

Posted by: Bob Owens at September 24, 2008 04:18 PM (zqzYV)

Perfect plan. The Atlantic's advertisers could give a rip about what some random bloggers say (no offense Ace, Bob, er, myself), but criticism of Sullivan's poisonous Palin/Trig screeds coming from the Washington Freaking Post? Awesome.

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at September 24, 2008 12:39 PM (uOvAE)

71 thanks... okay, i just wanted a little somethin'-somethin'. I got it.

Posted by: unnamed blogger disappointed by lack of reaction at September 24, 2008 12:43 PM (1WR4H)

72 ace, the batman thing was funny, but not too funny, because it might not be a parody.

Also, I can't believe you missed THIS line from andi:

Since this is a crazy idea, it should be easy for you or someone to let me know, the most popular one-man political blog site in the world, what the truth is.

Low hanging fruit there, bud.

His delusions of grandeur are manifesting themselves in this spacetime.

AWESOME.

Posted by: moronizer at September 24, 2008 12:43 PM (p1s9n)

73 #66 the Pancake

that's not true. He knows how to make poo-babies

(please don't ban, we're making fun of andi only)

Posted by: moronizer at September 24, 2008 12:45 PM (p1s9n)

74 "...Just for the record, I asked an intern to go back and double fact-check the twelve documented lies that Sarah Palin has told on the public record. These are not hyperbolic claims or rhetorical excess. They are assertions of fact that are demonstrably untrue and remain uncorrected...So for the record, let it be known that the candidate for vice-president for the GOP is a compulsive, repetitive, demonstrable liar. If you follow the links, here is the proof. I repeat: proof:..." http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/the-twelve-odd.html#more Sir, Included in the indictment is that she lied about both homosexual marriage and the polar bear. Two things struck me. One, evidently there is not "...proof. I repeat: proof:..." that Palin lied about the parentage of Trig Palin! What? Do you mean to say that he isn't her daughter's child, She didn't wear a fat suit, did I mention She must be stopped because She's against homosexual marriage and is rumored to possess a ...gasp (gobsmacked pause) VAGINA?! As though these allegations fall under the category of "... hyperbolic claims or rhetorical excess..." Two, this nut has an intern. My God, can you imagine what this duty must entail. I hope that the Atlantic gives this poor lad combat pay and a chastity belt (if it's a male- if it's a female Saint Andy probably just sneers at her and occasionally spits on her). Sinister Delenda Est

Posted by: rcl at September 24, 2008 12:49 PM (isyrB)

75 This is about the FUNNIEST thing I've read in months. Way to go Ace.

Posted by: wls at September 24, 2008 12:56 PM (8wf9R)

76 59 It's Mikey Slaw, isn't it? Please tell me it's Mikey Slaw. Because if it's Mikey's Law, it'll just break my heart.

And you wouldn't want to break a weasel's heart, would you?

Posted by: S. Weasel at September 24, 2008 05:14 PM (Dy8+A)

One broken heart, comin up.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at September 24, 2008 12:56 PM (QMGr1)

77 Didn't Sullivan's mom ever teach him manners? Oh, wait -- she couldn't. She took poison in a Berlin bunker in 1945.

Posted by: Bleepless at September 24, 2008 12:57 PM (lMvip)

78
Andi's just jealous

Posted by: Booben at September 24, 2008 12:57 PM (4SGur)

79 Dear Andrew,

I have one simple question that needs to be answered. Are you in fact gay? I mean, where is the proof that you do not also enjoy heterosexual intercourse? You could in fact be bi or even hetero. Where is the proof that you are not?

Sincerely,
A Journalistic Criminal

Posted by: Jounalistic Criminal at September 24, 2008 12:58 PM (dPHiP)

80 Posted by: Wankin' Walter at September 24, 2008 05:36 PM (+Okg5)

You any relation to Masturbatin' Pete?

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 24, 2008 12:59 PM (FO+YO)

81 Where is the proof that you are not?

Here: NSFW

Posted by: Booben at September 24, 2008 01:04 PM (4SGur)

82 I've noticed that the man-hating lesbians and the woman-hating gay dudes are have the most whack-job reactions to the the Palins, and why not? Two great-looking fertile, happy, successful heterosexuals; Christians-- real ones, not CINOs. The Palins are everything they claim to hate, secretly desire, but can never have.

Pity them when the guys with the butterfly nets come for them.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 24, 2008 01:06 PM (i4iTl)

Sorry Ace, my man, but i didnt see one iota of pwnage here by Goldfarb or anyone else on team Mav. What i saw is a 4-page screed by Howard Kurtz that basically rehashes without refutation every criticism of Maverick and Goose thats been out there for the last 10 days. The entire trenor of the piece appears designed to give Sullivan cover. "He's just asking questions, which is what any journalist does." Its transparent bullshit, but...

Gov Palin is undoubtedly creating a cultural stir out in the country at-large, which come election day might well be a factor. We wont know that until we know. But for the last few days (aided and abetted by a willing and complicit Obama loving press corps) Team Mav has been getting their heads handed to them on a plate.

Still time to flip the Johnnycake, though.

Posted by: mike d at September 24, 2008 01:08 PM (Ug3ki)

84 Since Andrew is gay, HIV pos (thus immuno-deficient) Only Andrew and his doctor know for sure, I guess, but as long as the antiviral drugs are doing a good job at keeping his virus count low, his immune response may be relatively normal. For the same reason, if his craziness has an organic cause, I would suspect that it's more likely to be (just to go way out on a limb here) 'roid rage stemming from his massive overuse of "prescription" testosterone, rather than AIDS dementia. (Since strictly speaking he doesn't currently have AIDS in the sense of "out of control, end-stage HIV infection.")

Posted by: Throbert McGee at September 24, 2008 01:11 PM (soVlK)

85 The entire trenor of the piece appears designed to give Sullivan cover.

Yep.

Posted by: Booben at September 24, 2008 01:12 PM (4SGur)

86 mike d

I think Kurtz is trying very hard not to outright accuse Sulli of being a nutbar:

Sullivan, one of the earliest bloggers, has been on a tear about Palin lately, calling her "a compulsive, repetitive, demonstrable liar." But it is the Trig question that has his critics, especially on the right, up in arms. For instance, the Weekly Standard's Jonathan Last , on his Galley Slaves blog, says: "Andrew Sullivan is once again openly using The Atlantic as a platform to demand that Sarah Palin 'prove' that she is mother of her youngest child. It is a disgrace for the magazine and everyone associated with it. One hundred and fifty years of storied history set ablaze in fortnight by a single writer."

There's a difference, obviously, between the fact-checked copy that goes into the magazine and the free-wheeling platform that Atlantic gives its bloggers. But Sullivan's Trig postings have troubled some of his colleagues, and he has been in a veiled debate with fellow Atlantic writer Ross Douthat ,

Posted by: moronizer at September 24, 2008 01:16 PM (p1s9n)

87 "The most popular one man blog on the planet?"

You just can't make that shit up, can you?

What a living breathing self-parody that man is. You gotta be kidding.

Posted by: PB at September 24, 2008 01:24 PM (6s9um)

Just by posting these e-mails Kurtz has done a lot to say 'tone this down'.

My bet is it will be ignored, like Ace said before. The rabid, like any conspiracy nut, will ignore this kind of advice, not matter how good it is. It isn't what they want to hear.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 24, 2008 01:24 PM (TUWci)

89 I have to admit I was slightly surprised to learn that Sully was still going after the "Trig is not Sarah's kid" angle -- I'd gotten the impression that he was moving on to "Sarah is exploiting her poor li'l Down Syndrome baby for political gain." (Accusing her of "exploiting" Trig has the advantage of being unfalsifiable and thus beyond the scope of libel law, I would assume.)

Posted by: Throbert McGee at September 24, 2008 01:30 PM (soVlK)

90 Using this meme to riff on one of my favorite trolls from LGF, who cam by to haunt my new blog hangout.

Posted by: Socky at September 24, 2008 01:36 PM (d2fuu)

Wow! Having had the fun of E-mail wars in the distant past with St. Andrew, it was great to watch the dismantling of this two-bit ciber thug. For too long, WAY too long, people have tried to be polite to "RAWMUSCLEGLUTES" (his name when soliciting nasty things on the web) and have treated this fraud as if he were some sort of intellectual. He is not. He is totally ignorant of military history, American history, American government, economics, Catholic theology, and, apparently, the fact that female tummies get larger when females are pregnant as Sarah Palin's did prior to last April (this was dutifully noted by the press in Alaska). I always wondered how one individual could combine all of this plus the chutzpah to lecture the rest of us on morality until I found out that Andy has a degree in political science from Harvard. Everything then fell into place.

Andy has, I suspect, mental derangement related to his well-publicized disease: TOXIC COCK SYNDROME. Given his universally-acknowledged fascination with Abu Ghraib and the very thought of dark-skinned, sweaty, Muslim males being undressed, chained, and being forced to assume humiliating positions, I now call on St. Andrew to PROVE that his, uh, life partner is NOT a dark-skinned, sweaty, Muslim male being forced to assume a humiliating position. This is a simple question like "is his fudge packed?" I await his reply.

Posted by: t at September 24, 2008 01:37 PM (sOm9l)

Hi Cuffy,

no relation to masty pete.

My nic-name is Nuffy but I didnt want to get you an me mixed up.

Posted by: Wankin' Walter at September 24, 2008 01:38 PM (+Okg5)

93 Has anyone brought up South Park Episode 614 yet as a possible angle to explain Sullivan's Trig-fixation? (This was the episode that introduced Mr. Slave -- as well as Lemmiwinks the Gerbil.)

Posted by: Throbert McGee at September 24, 2008 01:44 PM (soVlK)

94 Leave Milky alooooooooooone!!!112442234@!#!#!!!34542131147788!!!666!!!

Posted by: BabaChewy at September 24, 2008 01:57 PM (nshPh)

95 I think Kurtz is trying very hard not to outright accuse Sulli of being a nutbar:

Don't make excuses for Kurtz. When Kurtz suggested Palin should release her medical records to placate the asshole, he crossed the line.

I have to admit I was slightly surprised to learn that Sully was still going after the "Trig is not Sarah's kid" angle --

Which makes me believe he is truly obsessed with this baby and his employers should have intervened a long time ago. (I bet he refers to Trig in private as that little joo baby.)

(Accusing her of "exploiting" Trig has the advantage of being unfalsifiable and thus beyond the scope of libel law, I would assume.)

However, it's almost impossible for public officials to sue for libel. They have to prove actual malice, i.e., the statements were made with the knowing or reckless disregard for the truth.

Posted by: Booben at September 24, 2008 02:09 PM (4SGur)

As a mid-20s conservative independent, I feel I must support Obama because I want a return to adult, rational governance.

I'm starting to think Excitable Milky Glutes has confused Astroglide with Astroturf.

Posted by: Bill H at September 24, 2008 02:14 PM (q8CmE)

97 Oh, fuck you, Andrew, you contemptible twat.

Posted by: Kensington at September 24, 2008 02:22 PM (kFwRi)

98 Why the McCain camp won't answer his questions... for the same reason they are keeping Sarah away from the press... because it is driving them INSANE!!!

I say, keep it up!

Posted by: Robin at September 24, 2008 02:24 PM (6uXZa)

Sullivan is circling the bowl, and now comes the Atlantic, Kurtz and the WAPO right behind him, plop, plop, plop.

This election, on top of the last 8 years of its dishonorable conduct, has so debased journalism that it can no longer be seriously considered a profession. Think of it this way... even if we found an honest journalist still existed, he could no longer make a living by honestly telling the truth, could he?

In 8 short years, we have witnessed the reputation of US journalism being burnt to the waterline by the dishonest political activism of most of its stars .

Posted by: sherlock at September 24, 2008 02:36 PM (ojW85)

100 Incredibly sad.

I got into blogs reading Andrew Sullivan's blog, years ago, before he started obsessing over Abu Ghraib. Haven't read him in quite some time, so it's shocking to see how far he's fallen in just a half a dozen years.

As a more serious response than he probably deserves --- didn't the campaign go "on the record" with Trig's parentage when Governor Palin publicly introduced Trig as her son, at the convention, in front of forty million viewers? Hard to imagine a less "off-the-record" comment, no?

Posted by: Clint at September 24, 2008 02:41 PM (oZ5OG)

101 Sorry 'bout that folks. I was misinformed and I stand corrected. The Goebbels of Glutes is not actually a US citizen. And, for whatever reason, I hope it stays that way.

Posted by: Chef Mojo at September 24, 2008 02:45 PM (ZJCBT)

102 Sullivan couldn't possibly be happier right now. Since he whored all his attention back in the day by pretending to hate Clinton (I read his blog then) and calling himself a Conservative (in his case, I suppose you'd call it asstroturfing...spelling deliberate) and then slowly "losing faith" in Bush to the point he actively campaigned for Kerry, well... he misses all that attention.

And now he's getting it.

Sullivan is the kind of self-loather who actually lives for the hatred of the majority while a select minority sympathize and worship him (almost sounds like a certain kind of activist, doesn't it?).

Hell, I bet he has his partner read hate-emails aloud during "intimacy sessions" because they probably have some kid of viagra-esque effect on him.

...and somewhere Micheal Moore is punching himself because, after all, this IS his M.O.

Posted by: G at September 24, 2008 02:46 PM (FAYNo)

103 Booben,

At best there is proof that Andrew was once gay or is bisexual. But where is the proof that he didn't have heterosexual relations just yesterday? It's a simple factual question that requires only a simple factual answer. Or at least he could answer that he refuses to answer. I'm just asking questions here. As a journalist.

Posted by: Jounalistic Criminal at September 24, 2008 02:47 PM (5jzzp)

104

Andi,

If you are reading this, please go right up to Todd Palin and ask.

It would be the most quickest way to get the answer, and I'm sure you've already thought about it, because you're a great journalist.

You piece of shit.

Thanks!

Posted by: Senator Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller at September 24, 2008 03:01 PM (vFeQi)

105

Good stuff, Ace. O'Sulli is a tad beyond warped.

Seems to me, regarding this quote: "The most popular one man blog on the planet?" that O'Sulli has the Thaddeus Matthews syndrome, but he nay be a little more articulate.

http:///thaddeusmatthews.com.

Posted by: Hal at September 24, 2008 03:10 PM (K3kNR)

106

When was Andrew Sullivan a journalist?
When was Andrew Sullivan a writer?
When was Andrew Sullivan a conservative?
When was Andrew Sullivan a man?
When was Andrew Sullivan a respected human being?

________________________________________________

I am so tired of being right, and after over a year of wondering why anyone gives this buttsniffing queer the benefit of overwhelming doubt, I am not only vindicated, but undefeated and untied, the King of Media Criticism.

I have never - ever! - been accurately corrected for calling a fem journalist an effing liberal douche and partisan Dem, and I have never, ever, been wrong about this abortion, Andi the SpooJar.

Posted by: Geronimo at September 24, 2008 03:18 PM (8DbK4)

107 http://titanurl.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

Posted by: greg at September 24, 2008 03:20 PM (eN3hX)

108 Ace,

Hammer ban that shithead

Posted by: moronizer at September 24, 2008 03:29 PM (p1s9n)

109 It's our girl Crystal Meth.

Posted by: Booben at September 24, 2008 03:31 PM (4SGur)

110 Why the McCain camp won't answer his questions...

Because it's fucking bizarre and intrusive, bitch. The fixation that Sullivan and trolls like you have on this infant is not natural. See a psychiatrist. I believe you people are dangerous.

Posted by: Booben at September 24, 2008 03:37 PM (4SGur)

111 wmp

Posted by: Faye Kinnitt at September 24, 2008 03:40 PM (l1oyw)

112 Ace, you really need to automate the removal of big words in people's comments.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at September 24, 2008 03:41 PM (YvLui)

113 Dammit Ace, I had promised myself never to read Kurtz again, but your post made me want to see him take Sully to the woodshed.

But, as usual, I was reminded that Kurtz is a hack (who occasionally stumbles into fairness).

Kurtz did not have the balls to call Sully out; he seems to give credence to Sully's manic musings.

Note to self: NEVER AGAIN READ KURTZ (this time I'm serious)

Posted by: mockmook at September 24, 2008 04:38 PM (WtqUl)

114 You know what I'd really like to see? An honest, uncensored, unedited, televised, personal statement by Todd Palin on how he feels about his beloved wife and children being savaged and dissected by the media and the loony left.

So would they. Why not just stab yourself in the neck to spite a vampire?

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 24, 2008 05:21 PM (NV3P1)

115

is Sully really the "most popular one man political blog"? I thought Insty held that title ...

Posted by: Adam at September 24, 2008 05:25 PM (iXcho)

116 BATMAN! BATMAN! BATMAN!

That was almost as good as the IM conversation between John Edwards and his infant daughter, Frances Quinn. Not quite, of course. But so close.

Posted by: eucher at September 24, 2008 05:30 PM (WGyNI)

117

I wish Journo-Andi would spend as much time asking "questions" about Obama's nefarious background with respect to selling drugs, his college transcripts, his assoc with Sal Alinsky, his ties to Islam, his refusal to help his impoverished brother in Africa, his lack of across-the-aisle bi partisanship, his relationship with Ayers, etc etc etc

Seems to me that any good journalist would be demanding serious answers to these questions....

Posted by: TripOverMe at September 25, 2008 02:50 AM (6c0zI)

118

Im a Fredhead, disappointed by his early departure, but now ecstatic with Palin for VP.

Some friends of mine created a video tribute to Sarah Palin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA-IXHojCDI

Posted by: The Clarksdale Band at September 25, 2008 05:34 PM (w+wYM)

119

I'd just like to say that sharing a last name with this asshole is very frustrating.

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