August 14, 2008
— Ace As Fark says: You're doing it wrong.
This is very real. The decrepit old Sasquatch-lookin' hippie who jumps in is a professor and debate coach at Fort Hays State University. The black woman is the Pittsburgh coach.
The dispute involves one team receiving low scores.
Low scores? These latter-day Ciceros? No way.
Note he screams "This is not about fuckin' marijuana." Why do I think this is at least partly about fuckin' marijuana?
Profanity & Brief Sidal Nudity Warning. But worth it. It's like an intellectual/academic version of Hoosiers.
"It's about how you carry yourself."
Preach it, brother.
Please note that not enough people are going to college. Not enough of our non-academically-inclined students are attending these marginal, barely-accredited bottom-rung colleges and receiving the sage wisdom of mutants like this.
Update: Bigfoot lives? And is hoping for tenure?
That's not a mugshot. That's a glamor shot from (seriously) Professor/Debate Coach/Asshole Exhibitionist Bill Shanahan's blog. In which you'll find nuggets of wisdom such as this:
This election again offers a choice basically between only two candidates. Each one regularly presents their respective constituency with procedural, policy, and other reasons to vote against them.
Still, recent history suggests only two choices are viable and that most voters will vote for one or the other. Despite differences and disagreements with a particular candidate, voters are more likely to vote for the viable candidate that best represents their beliefs.
Ralph Nader's legitimate response to his critics that he brought out new voters who would not otherwise have voted is no longer relevant. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama helped bring out new voters who were energized to vote for a historic Democratic president.
Even Ron Paul ended his bid for the Republican nomination. Where his votes will go, though, no one knows. Some experts think they will slide to John McBush. Others suggest Libertarian candidate Bob Barr or Constitution candidate Chuck Baldwin.
Not only is that painfully, retardedly obvious -- only one of the two major candidates has a shot at winning? Fo' rizzle? -- but he shows his nuance with the appellation "John McBush," which is only a few steps up from "Prezmodent Chimphitler McMurderburton."
Also note he's a professor of Speech and Communications, but titles blog-posts with insensible gibberish such as...
On the Precipice of an Historic Occasion
Occasions have precipices? Oh well. He's a professor of Speech and Communication, not Geography and Cartography. Nevermind the fact that he actually means that title to suggest "on the verge of a singularity of pure awesome" (that is, Obama's winning the nomination), so it's a bit strange to be talking about precipices and chasms and cliffs and yawning abysses.
Remember: This is not about the fuckin' marijuana.
Thanks to BRD for that. Awesome.
That's how you debate. Awesome.
Posted by: Clonefan at August 14, 2008 09:04 AM (17uwu)
Posted by: Z Ryan at August 14, 2008 09:05 AM (PDeVA)
Posted by: RobG at August 14, 2008 09:05 AM (6Oq7N)
Posted by: Benson at August 14, 2008 09:06 AM (qzcNU)
Not even at 100:1 odds.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 14, 2008 09:07 AM (Ds4I5)
Posted by: mesablue at August 14, 2008 09:08 AM (5yNaE)
And Mr. Jumping Up and Down Hippie Guy proves my point that people who feel comfortable taking off their shoes and walking around in public forums are idiots.
Posted by: DrewM. at August 14, 2008 09:08 AM (hlYel)
Posted by: Christoph at August 14, 2008 09:08 AM (hawOV)
Posted by: Gunslinger at August 14, 2008 09:09 AM (7FA9S)
Posted by: BRD at August 14, 2008 09:10 AM (w70vk)
I'm trying hard but I can't seem to remember a time when one of my professors dropped trow and flashed and spread his cheeks at me.
Is our children learning?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2008 09:11 AM (VBon8)
Posted by: tachyonshuggy at August 14, 2008 09:12 AM (TXp3z)
Posted by: Terry at August 14, 2008 09:13 AM (GAQ/Q)
It's amazing that some kids survive the four year brainwashing that college has become without needing serious therapy.
Posted by: mesablue at August 14, 2008 09:13 AM (5yNaE)
Posted by: profligatewaste at August 14, 2008 09:13 AM (s65nF)
"No! Fuck You!"
High level discourse there.
Good thing the big woman with the mullet was there to take control of the situation after the other would-be mediator guy broke down in tears. Hearing him whimper in the background has gotta be the best part of the video.
Posted by: forest at August 14, 2008 09:14 AM (cjFle)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2008 09:15 AM (DVVXZ)
Posted by: sergei at August 14, 2008 09:19 AM (AGMH1)
More than enough has been revealed, thank you.
Posted by: mesablue at August 14, 2008 09:22 AM (5yNaE)
Posted by: dan at August 14, 2008 09:24 AM (EvuNB)
Posted by: Christoph at August 14, 2008 09:26 AM (hawOV)
A bunch of morons screaming, emoting, cursing and stomping around arguing about things that don't matter to anybody outside of a small constituency group. Doing nothing. Signifying nothing. Getting nothing accomplished, and blaming the others when people take notice and lose interest.
Or, if that doesn't work for you, two Barack Obama supporters talking about "the issues" and resolving them in a calm, level-headed, academically rigorous manner.
Posted by: Good Lt at August 14, 2008 09:26 AM (jH17H)
Posted by: Mikey NTH at August 14, 2008 09:27 AM (O9Cc8)
Is this a preview of the Democratic national Convention?
If so Howard Dean ought to get it on pay-per-view and he'll have enough to pay all of the bills.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at August 14, 2008 09:28 AM (O9Cc8)
Was he attempting to use his ponytail as a weapon, or please the rain gods?
Judging by his body language and the way he swings his arms around, I'm forced to conclude his father was the lead singer for Jethro Tull, and his mother was rhesis monkey.
Posted by: Entropy at August 14, 2008 09:30 AM (m6c4H)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 14, 2008 09:30 AM (VBon8)
Posted by: Good Lt at August 14, 2008 09:30 AM (jH17H)
Posted by: MAJ HAM at August 14, 2008 09:32 AM (NMK3S)
Posted by: mesablue at August 14, 2008 09:33 AM (5yNaE)
turned tail- wow, walked into that.
Just watched all of it and I started to really get behind errr support him...seriously, he won me over by the end.
Alien vs. predator- hilarious
the one black guy in the yellow shirt at the end sobbing is too much- so funny- liberalism is alive and well. After seeing such a spectacle- you wonder if some of these impressionable college kids will just walk out of that lecture hall and straight to the nearest RNC headquarters
Posted by: dan at August 14, 2008 09:33 AM (EvuNB)
Posted by: profligatewaste at August 14, 2008 09:36 AM (s65nF)
Posted by: Maetenloch at August 14, 2008 09:37 AM (R+27R)
I thought that he had some very good points on reBUTTal.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2008 09:39 AM (DVVXZ)
Posted by: rinseandspit at August 14, 2008 09:42 AM (VFTrh)
Posted by: Grendel at August 14, 2008 09:42 AM (i58mj)
Posted by: George Will at August 14, 2008 09:43 AM (+MtXg)
Posted by: Grendel at August 14, 2008 09:46 AM (i58mj)
Posted by: Mark at August 14, 2008 09:47 AM (nAu6v)
"It's amazing that some kids survive the four year brainwashing that college has become without needing serious therapy."
That's where the marijuana comes in.
Posted by: Bob Hawkins at August 14, 2008 09:47 AM (eZ0vq)
Posted by: profligatewaste at August 14, 2008 09:48 AM (s65nF)
Posted by: Grendel at August 14, 2008 09:54 AM (i58mj)
Posted by: mesablue at August 14, 2008 09:55 AM (5yNaE)
Posted by: stace at August 14, 2008 09:56 AM (JO0c/)
Posted by: Iblis at August 14, 2008 09:58 AM (9221z)
>>>I wonder what he sees in the mirror that makes him think that the ponytail, glasses, and stringy beard are attarctive. When you're only a pair of glasses and a shampoo away from looking like a homeless guy, it might be time to consider a new look.
Have I said one mean thing to you?!?!
Oh come on Ace - give yourself some credit. Based on your CPAC acceptance speech you're at least 15lbs and two weeks beard growth away from passing as a homeless dude.
Posted by: Maetenloch at August 14, 2008 09:59 AM (R+27R)
She's calling for the U.S. to be dissolved at a county commissioners meeting in June.
Posted by: mesablue at August 14, 2008 10:01 AM (5yNaE)
I know high school dropouts who can write more fluently than that.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 14, 2008 10:02 AM (Ds4I5)
Posted by: JohnW at August 14, 2008 10:04 AM (VwyXH)
Posted by: mesablue at August 14, 2008 10:05 AM (5yNaE)
I wonder what he sees in the mirror that makes him think that the ponytail, glasses, and stringy beard are attarctive.
They do make him look attarctive. But Attractive, NFW, unless you are comparing him to that dead-ape-in-a-crate from the Bigfoot post. Even then, you'd have to critically evaluate the dead ape's ass to be sure.
Posted by: sherlock at August 14, 2008 10:13 AM (ZrS0c)
Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at August 14, 2008 10:16 AM (grY4M)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2008 10:19 AM (0+Ggj)
Unsolved mystery: How can Billy Gibbons and Dusty Hill make that "look" cool and this guy looks like...well...just look at him. Is it as simple as a guitar?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 14, 2008 10:35 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: atnorth at August 14, 2008 10:36 AM (VAF/F)
Good God. Close this "university" and send the poor kids to DeVry so they can get a job.
Posted by: Scott at August 14, 2008 10:38 AM (RUQLy)
MARY ANN GIFFORD
(screaming in from
Fuggin fascist! Have you seen the
movies we took at the San Marino
jail break-out demonstrating the
rising up of a seminal prisoner-
You can blow the seminal prisoner-
class infrastructure out your ass!
I'm not knocking down my goddam
The GREAT KHAN decides to offer an opinion by SHOOTING
his PISTOL off into the air. This gives everybody
something to consider, especially WILLIE STEIN who
almost has a heart attack.
THE GREAT KHAN
Man, give her the fucking over-
Posted by: capitano at August 14, 2008 10:38 AM (+NO33)
I only strut and fret ab out in the mud so I'm not sure that I am capable of understanding this high level abstract debate but at one point she mentions prisons. I think. But maybe that is only a metaphor or simile or something. anyway, the important thing is that they both care.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2008 10:44 AM (DVVXZ)
Oh, holy fuck.
How would you like to be this maniacs' next door neighbor?
Weekly screaming "dialogue" about his leaving his trash cans out for 2 days after pick-up. Watering the garden in the nude. Screaming at your dog for pissing on his shrubs.
All to show HOW MUCH HE CARES!
Posted by: rickinstl at August 14, 2008 10:48 AM (MvmeX)
How many of you have been to a university and haven't met one of these perennially angry black women. She flipped because some weirdo had a dirty look on his face. So sadly typical.
Posted by: ghy at August 14, 2008 10:53 AM (8jYMc)
And you can tell this jackoff is a lifelong attention whore.
Twenty says at some point in his school days, he whipped out Little Billy and wizzed on a classroom floor. Hell, fifty says he did it in a church. And I'll go a thousand that he took a dump in Mom's living room at least once.
Posted by: rickinstl at August 14, 2008 10:54 AM (MvmeX)
Just imagine the offspring the yeti and Deb Frisch could produce.
Wasn't the 1974 horror movie "It's Alive!" based upon this premise? You have just given me nightmares for weeks. Although given Frisch's sexuality, I can console myself with the idea of her being raped by Sasquatch as sort of funny.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 14, 2008 10:56 AM (ujg0T)
At least he didn't bring forth Mr Hankey.
Maybe in closing arguments.
Posted by: David Ross at August 14, 2008 10:59 AM (GwV+j)
Posted by: Reiver at August 14, 2008 11:30 AM (s7h/P)
Posted by: Dr. Sigmund McNeoconRumorMonger at August 14, 2008 12:07 PM (zAvxs)
Posted by: Potosi Joel at August 14, 2008 12:20 PM (TPRbZ)
Watching this at work with the sound off...
...and I can't stop laughing...just do it for the first minute and add your own words
Posted by: brian at August 14, 2008 12:33 PM (7Z6lo)
Posted by: j baldwin at August 14, 2008 12:36 PM (FJ5D9)
Moral outrage about nearly everything (relevant or not), profound logic glaringly obvious to 5th graders, and animated exhibitionism potentially developing into near-epilepsy; this guy's good.
Maybe he and D.Dog could reprise the Liddy-Leary debate tour.
Posted by: Arbalest at August 14, 2008 12:38 PM (YtRn/)
Remember that conflicts in academia are bitter and violent because the stakes are so low.
Makes me ashamed to admit that my bachelor's is from a Kansas univeristy (NOT Ft. Hays).
Posted by: Pat at August 14, 2008 12:45 PM (AqXsY)
A room full of ugly, very badly dressed people. This video is an argument for, among other things, bringing back a dress code in our schools.
Posted by: Steve (aka Ed Snate) at August 14, 2008 12:49 PM (ykDMc)
Posted by: Phil K. at August 14, 2008 12:51 PM (fvjJF)
Posted by: Ernest Borgnine's right hand at August 14, 2008 01:13 PM (zK1MQ)
The fact that you were able to get a video displaying the extent of the debate is impressive. The fact that this pot-smoking charlatan is a Professor at a University is not too surprising. No, these fraud failures are as common as the different flavors of massengale douches one would find in the lady's section of the local drug store.
It is amazing that Dr. Squigglesworth did not get his head caved in by one of the debaters, only to subdue him, please the crowd, and actually move on to a real debate (such as: "What is the best way to bash in the head of a frantic pot-smoking, hippie fraud-falure non-tenured professor who thinks he looks cool jumping about screaming like a Richard Gere with too many gerbils clawin'about?")
Posted by: jdubya at August 14, 2008 01:25 PM (rYaSa)
That is some high level discussion and civil discourse.
It's 'bout the Marijuana. Oh and race. so it's like a two-fer.
Posted by: JAFKIAC at August 14, 2008 01:29 PM (HqtPo)
This guy totally lost the "how to keep it cool" award. When faced with stupid people talking nonsense, stay calm, and explain yourself reasonably. Always works for me. Well, the other part may get so frustrated with your calmness that they walk away, but that's usually for the better...
Posted by: Seixon at August 14, 2008 01:32 PM (HvdU1)
Posted by: Bart: at August 14, 2008 01:32 PM (EGhNS)
Good thing the mullet-lez was there to make her big speech. Must've been practicing that one in the mirror.
Boy do leftists love to climb up on things and give speeches.
Posted by: Warden at August 14, 2008 01:33 PM (QoR4a)
If someone had yelled "Free blunts!" the argument would have ended quick, fast and in a hurry.
Posted by: krakatoa at August 14, 2008 01:41 PM (/FUhT)
Posted by: Handsome Smitty at August 14, 2008 01:45 PM (yXLKK)
Posted by: uniball at August 14, 2008 01:51 PM (27iEn)
Free blunts! Free Tinfoil hats!
Posted by: Bart: at August 14, 2008 01:53 PM (EGhNS)
Posted by: clyde at August 14, 2008 02:10 PM (8Izr9)
Posted by: monkeyfan at August 14, 2008 02:18 PM (cEE8N)
Posted by: Debater at August 14, 2008 02:20 PM (SkOEi)
"Bill published a dissertation on Nietzche's rhetorical nihilism and is currently writing a book on Nietzsche's reception in Communist Germany."
Man, I need this. Important stuff!
Cuz, I care about people. I love hearing college students saying "allyall". Marvelous, a grown man crying, or was that that coach...what do these people actually do for a living?
I once wrote a book about Nietzche's and Camus' episodes of giving each other purple nurples and the reception of such in Post-Structuralist Macedonia.
Posted by: Rev Dr The Man E Buzz Fucking Fuck Off Fuck at August 14, 2008 02:27 PM (sf4Oe)
Posted by: Nomennovum at August 14, 2008 02:30 PM (g3lgp)
You may have something there
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2008 02:32 PM (0+Ggj)
Posted by: Maudie at August 14, 2008 02:36 PM (3Z8xQ)
Check out the dope-smoker's television show: http://transcoder.fhsu.edu/tt/http://www.fhsu.edu/int/kfhstv/?cat=3
Watch the video where he interviews the Muslim lady... you'll see about halfway through it his anti-capitalist views and self-hate of Western civilization. (Hey douchebag... you can pack your bags anytime!)
Posted by: TexasRainmaker at August 14, 2008 02:38 PM (5ZZ2T)
Posted by: Commodore Schmidlapp at August 14, 2008 03:10 PM (FkL60)
Posted by: aubrey at August 14, 2008 03:21 PM (P96YG)
My guess is that he's getting a little worn out teaching debate... time to move on to more productive areas for his skills.... say journalism or education.
Posted by: CapedConservative at August 14, 2008 03:31 PM (4qQEC)
Posted by: lonetown at August 14, 2008 03:57 PM (f/ha4)
Posted by: billypaintbrush at August 14, 2008 04:01 PM (QfCrD)
Posted by: railwriter at August 14, 2008 04:07 PM (XcsD4)
Wait a minute!!! I went to this guy's blog, AND HE'S A DEMOCRAT??? A pony-tailed shoeless college professor, who thinks screaming and swearing is a winning debate style, and whose arrogance far outstrips his worth, and he's a Democrat? I never saw that one coming.
Posted by: Ted K. at August 14, 2008 04:31 PM (u5SdO)
Posted by: profligatewaste at August 14, 2008 04:42 PM (s65nF)
He's saying screaming "It's not about the win or the loss!" But it was funnier when I thought it wasn't about the fuckin' marijuana.
Posted by: April at August 14, 2008 04:59 PM (Y5P5w)
He's described as "a total baller" at Rate My Professors:
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Posted by: Tom W. at August 14, 2008 09:50 PM (pXS7q)
Posted by: cheshirecat at August 14, 2008 10:05 PM (nhyo6)
<blockquote>3 Where are the Hellfire missles when you really need them???????
Posted by: RobG at August 14, 2008 02:05 PM (6Oq7N) </blockquote>
Posted by: SlimyBill at August 15, 2008 06:07 AM (73IaE)
having sat thru this, i am struck by several things.
1. I can't believe I sat through this.
2. How the hell did "Fort Hays State" end up in a competition with Emory, Vanderbilt and Pitt?
3. I've never heard a speech about "building bridges" sound so angry
4. The black dude started crying.
Posted by: headhunt23 at August 15, 2008 06:28 AM (OMCBg)
He may have been perfectly normal until he came down here and got his Phd at UT Austin. I would never have recovered from my time there without the help of a Higher Power. OTOH, that guy may have been driven crazy by 7 1/2 years of Bush. So give W some credit too.
I agree with whoever it was that pointed out its people like this that are going to Denver as delegates to the DNC. More popcorn, please.
Posted by: klrtz1 at August 15, 2008 07:09 AM (lwWCa)
He can't even write correctly. "Each one regularly presents their respective constituency..." It should be "Each one regularly presents HIS respective constituency..." Each is singular. What a dumbass.
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Posted by: Infidoll at August 15, 2008 10:23 AM (ojIgY)
Ace decided to grow a ponytail. Cool.
Now you know what he does for a day job.
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