July 29, 2008

GOP Ready to Link Obama to Reid and Pelosi over Offshore Drilling
— Dave in Texas

Good. Link away GOP.

Rep. Adam Putnam (R-Fla.) and Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) will greet Obama’s arrival with a news conference in which they’ll assert that Reid (D-Nev.) and Pelosi (D-Calif.) are holding up votes on offshore drilling in order to protect Obama.

They’ll also begin to use “Pelosi-Reid-Obama” in the all-in-the-same-breath way that Democrats now use “Bush-McCain” — to make the parties’ popular candidates indistinguishable from their less beloved incumbents.

Hanging these two millstones around Obama's neck seems a fair response to "Bush-McCain" blathering. Tying it to their stubborn refusal to relent on offshore drilling is even better.

The price of energy is a pocketbook issue now, front and center. It's the kind of issue that sways the middle. It's not enough by itself, but it ain't nothing either. Ace suggested a week or so ago that if Obama was smart, he'd outflank McCain on drilling.

Well, he's not smart. Not that smart anyway. And if the GOP moves on this now it'll be too late for him to jump on that bandwagon.

Remember, it's not that $4 a gallon is too much, we just got there too fast, i.e. a lot of Americans are pissed off about it now and that doesn't help the Chosen One™.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 04:43 AM | Comments (61)
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1 What I would like to know is, since the Dems are against offfshore drilling
in Ca and eastern Fl, because of environmental concerns (or so they say), why are they not
trying to *stop* current offshore drilling the Gulf?  What's the diff?  Call 'em and ask 'em.  The Pelosi people really hate it when you call them about this issue.


Posted by: Gary at July 29, 2008 04:57 AM (ZZOa6)

2 a lot of Americans are pissed off about it now and that doesn't help the Chosen One™.

Americans? Hell, they can't even speak two languages. Who cares about them? The Europeans love this and therefore so do I.

Posted by: Barack Obama-Citizen of the World at July 29, 2008 05:01 AM (hlYel)

3 A local gas station has a gas sale every Saturday.  They knock a whole $.03 off the price of a gallon of gas.

People line up, with their cars running, to get the deal. The discount probably knocks all of $.50 off an average fill-up.  They likely use more gas by driving out of their way and then idling while waiting for a pump to open.

This proves two things: lots of people are stupid, and gas prices matter A LOT to people.

If gas prices matter so much that so many people are willing to go to great (and stupid) lengths to save $.03 per gallon, imagine how a constituency of the same people is reacting to the current gasoline price.

Democrats typically snap up people with this degree of foolishness with their class warfare and populist handout rhetoric.  This is an opportunity for Republicans to make inroads with these people while still being correct on the issue.

It has the additional benefit of appealing to those that aren't as stupid but have family budgets to maintain.




Posted by: grognard at July 29, 2008 05:02 AM (5npD/)

4

Hit 'em hard and hit 'em often with this.  I also like the Pelosi-Reid-Obama tactic.  The first two definitely take the shine off the apple of everyone's eye.

If Wright-Ayers-Obama worked some, Pelosi-Reid-Obama should chip away even more.

Posted by: pistolero at July 29, 2008 05:18 AM (QuCVu)

5

If Wright-Ayers-Obama worked some, Pelosi-Reid-Obama should chip away even more.

If a kook-terrorist-douchebag connection didn't sink him, I don't see what a doucebag-douchebag-douchebage connection is going to do.

This ain't slots.

Posted by: Entropy at July 29, 2008 05:23 AM (m6c4H)

6

The wheels on the bus go round and around...Pelosi-Reid-Obama will anger the Baroque Obozo in tailgate position.

For all the DNC party unity crap, nothing trumps seniority for those already holding power. Nancy loves her knife 'n dagger #1 position behind Cheney.

Posted by: maverick muse at July 29, 2008 05:42 AM (F1b/5)

7

You can always stay home or use public transportation but you can't heat your home with unicorns. Of course by the time those bills come in it will already be too late.

Ent @ #5, very funny!

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 29, 2008 06:00 AM (rplL3)

8 Although this confrontation needs to be done... it's going to be interesting how fiercely the forth estate will provide such massive air cover for Reid, Pelosi and the Messiah. This will be the battle of the Coral Sea.

Posted by: sergei at July 29, 2008 06:25 AM (AGMH1)

9 I don't see what a doucebag-douchebag-douchebage connection is going to do. This ain't slots.

Now that's there's funny.

Posted by: Andy at July 29, 2008 06:28 AM (cmoj6)

10

Whew!

I just got back from the Politico web site and the comment section on their puff-piece on Pelosi. I think the Republicans can get some mileage on this, by the responses of the *ahem*  "displeased" folk there. It's past time for us to really put some pressure on the Congressional Dems. If the hue and cry of the masses isn't answered by some common sense energy legislation very soon, we may see a massive (and unexpected) shift to the right come November.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 29, 2008 06:39 AM (ZGhSv)

11 And when they do that, it better be a solid link. None of this ace.mu.nu v/s ace.new.mu.nu link confusion.

Posted by: Tushar at July 29, 2008 06:53 AM (IlgNp)

12 Douchebag, douchebag, douchebag!

Posted by: The late Jack Berry hosting "The Douchebag's Wild" in Hell at July 29, 2008 06:54 AM (f7A+e)

13 Entropy.  You're right about the hard lefties, but for anyone wavering it might help tip the balance.  That was funny, though.

Posted by: douchebag-douchebag-douchebag at July 29, 2008 07:01 AM (QuCVu)

14

'Bout damn time, and they ought to go farther in hanging it on Obama.  Can you imagine the shape we'd likely be in if that jug-eared jackass would've got his way and we would have pulled out of Iraq, probably causing an oil disruption on top of the energy crisis we're in right now?  And it's only going to get worse for our national security.  The moonbats have been screaming "no blood for oil" through this whole damn thing.  Well, get ready for a self-fulfilling prophesy if the U.S. fails to become more energy-independent in the very near future.

Posted by: monsoon at July 29, 2008 07:04 AM (Fyntg)

15 'Bout damn time, and they ought to go farther in hanging it on Obama.

Eh, I dunno. Based on what I've been seeing lately, people's preference for Obama really has nothing to do with anything real. I doubt that hammering any policy issue is going to make much of a difference. People are infatuated with Obama because he's young, black, charismatic, a terrific orator, and in short, pretty much everything your usual president isn't. He's different, and that's all that anybody seems to care about.

On a somewhat related topic: I was at a bookstore last night, and I saw Hillary hate stuff mixed in with the Bush hate stuff. So I guess it's okay to hate Hillary now.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 29, 2008 07:38 AM (n29BA)

16

 People are infatuated with Obama because he's young, black, charismatic, a terrific orator Telprompter Reader and in short, pretty much everything your usual president isn't

Fixed that.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2008 07:54 AM (Lrsi6)

17

In order for these kinds of charges to carry any weight, McCain needs to tangle seriously and aggressively with the oil companies.  The press is just starting to look into the timing between McCain's change on offshore drilling and the million dollars he took from the oil companies.  If he is not careful to insulate himself, Obama's campaign could seriously hammer McCain on his relationship to big oil (as the Democrats are already doing in some of the congressional races). 

Given McCain's uncanny ability to get rocked and then flounder on issues that he should be strong on...  I doubt this will happen.  I bet McCain will run some oil ads, Obama will counter with some claim linking McCain with oil lobbyists, and then McCain will flounder around and then move towards Obama.

I know that I am becoming an increasing downer (even more than before)...  but my opinion is that McCain buys into his "Maverick" brand too much.  He thinks he can do and say whatever he wants, even if its a bad idea, and it will enhance his reputation.  He cannot adhere to a clear and disciplined message, and can easily be cajoled into making mistakes.

He's at the three point line, Obama has slipped in the drool of his adoring fans, and lays unconscious in the key.  Instead of sinking a nice three pointer...  McCain is going punt the ball, hit the showers, and play some bridge.

Posted by: oops at July 29, 2008 08:06 AM (TBoxe)

18 Fixed that.

That's why I said he was a terrific orator and not that he's articulate. Also because calling someone "articulate" is racist, evidently. Whatever.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at July 29, 2008 08:36 AM (n29BA)

19 Congress and Bush have a combined favorable rating of around 40%. Would we even have elected officials if we could vote no confidence?

Posted by: bleh at July 29, 2008 08:53 AM (GNCy6)

20 There's another angle the GOP needs to exploit. Jobs. Drilling for oil in the US and refining and processing that oil results in well-paid American jobs at no cost to the taxpayer.

Compare and Contrast with Nancy "I'm Trying to Save the Planet'" Pelosi's plan for an expensive Federal Jobs Program in the midst of a record deficit.

Posted by: Socky at July 29, 2008 09:16 AM (PLvLS)

21 Thanks Nancy!

Posted by: Jonathan Livingston Seagull at July 29, 2008 09:25 AM (4s1it)

22

And if the GOP moves on this now it'll be too late for him to jump on that bandwagon.

The Annointed One has an additional problem.  Now that gas prices have started to fall, the high, moral ground about gas prices has gotten a little lower.

Posted by: Steve L. at July 29, 2008 09:51 AM (o0YD+)

23

Maybe is we promise Barry a nice personal gift out of every gallon we get, he'd be kind enough to lower the fucking price with his magic wand.

Just like the shakedown shit he pulled in Chicaaaago.

Posted by: Rev Dr The Man E Buzz BigNuts at July 29, 2008 09:53 AM (sf4Oe)

24

Well, now that we've got Pelosi-Reid-Obama they've just received the gift of McCain-Bush-Stevens.

When is this party going to drum out the crooks and perverts?

Posted by: douchebag-douchebag-douchebag at July 29, 2008 09:59 AM (QuCVu)

25

Eh, I dunno. Based on what I've been seeing lately, people's preference for Obama really has nothing to do with anything real. I doubt that hammering any policy issue is going to make much of a difference. People are infatuated with Obama because he's young, black, charismatic, a terrific orator, and in short, pretty much everything your usual president isn't. He's different, and that's all that anybody seems to care about.

The thing to note here is that, as Rush points out, this guy has never broke 50%.

Despite all this glitz, the media adoration, every big event he pulls out of his ass that one ought to suspect a temporary 'bump' from, nothing budges him out of the high 40's. Dude cannot crack 50% no matter what.

Despite the fact that everyone hates republicans, even republicans, and hates the republican nominee, this rockstar can't break 50%.

Which come to think of it, neither could Bill Clinton.. at least in the results. I don't know about polls. Dukakis and Mondale etc, neither. A democrat PotUS nominee has not achieved 50% of the vote in over 30 years - not even the guy who won.

And at this point in the election, they are allways higher in the polls then they are come the end. Again...for 30 years straight. Kerry was beating Bush at this point.

The math is not there for them. It's the GOP's to lose.. which McCain just might do, too. Only way a democrat can win is if the GOP nominee is so atrocious he gets his own voters to stay home or vote 3rd party. Like... George Bush Sr... Bob Dole... John McCain.

Like if you've got a nominee that's like "Goddamnit, I'm friggen old, it's my turn" then you lose.

Otherwise you can run an icecream sandwich.

That's the good news. The bad news? .....

How do I put this to you...

Posted by: Entropy at July 29, 2008 10:07 AM (m6c4H)

26 The terrorist--mobster--douchebag nazi precher tie-in did take a little luster off Baracky. A Harry Reid--Stretch Pelosi tie-in will take additional sheen off the Annointed One. Remember their 9% approval numbers. Nobody likes these dullards.

Posted by: nikkolai at July 29, 2008 10:08 AM (iOKLn)

27 Hey, Ace, why is Homer Simpson wanted in connection with a plot to set off a dirty bomb in the US?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 29, 2008 10:15 AM (l3IrE)

28

"The pelosi people really hate it when you call them about this issue."

Gary, like your strategery about calling skeletor pelosi's office a great deal - my campaign of sending her office screeds of hate via email is not effective, so it looks like a change in tactication is in the offing.

You have a phone number you'd recommend for dialing up this jackass?

 

Posted by: but, buh, brrrp... at July 29, 2008 10:17 AM (I/JNA)

29 The Global Warming hoax has really done a number on our economy and politics, hasn't it?  Liberals want to 'save the planet' from CO2, when there's no evidence that CO2 has affected our climate.  There are predictions, but no evidence.  And it's not getting any warmer.


Posted by: Loren Heal at July 29, 2008 10:26 AM (uiKEv)

30

"The pelosi people really hate it when you call them about this issue."

Gary, like your strategery about calling skeletor pelosi's office a great deal - my campaign of sending her office screeds of hate via email is not effective, so it looks like a change in tactication is in the offing.

You have a phone number you'd recommend for dialing up this jackass?


The DC phone number for Nancy "Lil Stalin" Pelosi is 202-225-4965.

The DC phone number for Harry "Death to Capitalist Pig Economy" Reid is 202-224-3542.

Posted by: RWB at July 29, 2008 10:37 AM (MKxON)

31 And oil futures are down another 3 bucks just on the rumor that Reid will allow some kind of vote in the Senate.  Pelosi needs to be pummeled.

Posted by: toby hussein 928 at July 29, 2008 10:47 AM (PD1tk)

32 Like sponge said in #7, wait till people start filling their tanks for the heating season.
Food or heat...hmmm.

Shit is going to hit the fan, and it will start before Nov.

If the GOP doesn't get out in front of this big time, they don't deserve an other vote from any of us.

Posted by: A. Weasel at July 29, 2008 10:51 AM (bqcfE)

33 I know the GOP is not going to grow a set of balls, but just maybe thinking about sprouting a pubic hair.

Posted by: RWB at July 29, 2008 10:54 AM (MKxON)

34 If only a third party could work in this country it sure would be great to abandon this party, take the true conservatives with us and have a renaissance.  I just don't ever see it, though.

Posted by: pistolero at July 29, 2008 10:57 AM (QuCVu)

35

Speaking of the Democrats, I got a recorded call yesterday form a political operative claiming to be Dennis Kucinich (D- not California, and I'm in CA), looking for support for impeaching President Bush.

Am I alone in getting this sort of whack-job call (form someone), or has Denny K. gone off his prescription(s) and left the ward?

 

Additionally, does anyone have any information on the event last weekend, pictures of which Zombie was conflicvted about posting (LGF, comment #1, here)?

Hanging this sort of "SF Values" event (apparently, it makes the Folsom Street event seem somewhat suitable for the entire family) on Pelosi, adding the SF illegal sanctuary results (the Bologna triple murder), and her claims about the Surge on The View, then gluing her to Barak (the) Holy One, should cause a major, Roto-Rooter-required, political cleanup; many explanations, gyrations and denials needed.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 29, 2008 11:32 AM (XUQkf)

36

And oil futures are down another 3 bucks just on the rumor that Reid will allow some kind of vote in the Senate.  Pelosi needs to be pummeled.

Might be a small part of it.  A bigger part is the price is driving down demand ( the US may hit 80's levels miles driven by the end of the year ), stabilization in places like Iraq ( they have a bit of oil I've heard ), OPEC's president predicting 80/barrel prices in the near future, the rise of the dollar, and on and on and on....  supply and demand.

One thing that isn't causing it, evil speculators.

But none of this is against your conclusion, Pelosi needs to be pummeled just on general principles.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 29, 2008 11:33 AM (VBon8)

37 "One thing that isn't causing it, evil speculators."
JackStraw, can you please explain the London Loophole?

Posted by: RWB at July 29, 2008 11:43 AM (MKxON)

38

Obama + Reid + Pelosi

Even added all together these do nothing Democrats don't have any real accomplishments, do they?

Posted by: klrtz1 at July 29, 2008 11:46 AM (HCNr7)

39

Aargh!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus-on-a-brick: she qual's as moonbat extraordinaire ...she's just trying to Save The Planet.

Just.Trying.To.Save.The.Planet.

...she looooves longitude. And latitude.

...mustn't go all poopy on latitude, y'know.

Well. Now we really know: she's not just an ordinary idiot. Nope. She's a frickin' for-real meta-Druid. Fit her for a cowl.

...as if we needed this driven home.

WTF is wrong with these people ....

Posted by: davis,br at July 29, 2008 11:47 AM (7QgFP)

40 Pelosi needs to be pummeled.

Dude, I just threw up in my mouth a little....

Oh, politically pummeled.

Never mind.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2008 11:47 AM (Ds4I5)

41

...any bets on what her WOW persona is? Well? Any?

Posted by: davis,br at July 29, 2008 11:48 AM (7QgFP)

42 All I can say is that the GOP better be careful how they phrase this. Any variant of "drill" and "Pelosi" in the same sentence runs a high risk of causing a really, really bad visual.

Posted by: Andy at July 29, 2008 11:49 AM (cmoj6)

43 ...any bets on what her WOW persona is? Well? Any?

Retribution Belfadin on a PVP server.  Total griefer.

Posted by: leon Hussein caruthers at July 29, 2008 12:04 PM (SHR5S)

44

JackStraw, can you please explain the London Loophole?

Not very well.  My understanding is that traders in London had looser trading  restrictions, particulary at the end of a futures period, than their US counterparts.  The UK based traders make up a very small percentage of the overall trading and had little affect on the markets position in any case.  Andy or one of the full time traders could probably give a more detailed explanation.

Honestly, all this gets back to basic economics.  Traders are only making bets on where they think the market is going based on the prevailing market conditions.  A weak dollar, wars, particularly in oil regions, militant activity in places like Nigeria and yes, the US sitting on billions of barrels of oil while doing nothing with it while demand continues to grow worldwide.. who in their right mind doesn't think that oil prices would rise?

Even the CFTC agrees that the primary reason for the spike in oil has been supply and demand.

The ITF’s Interim Report on Crude Oil studied fundamental supply and demand factors and the roles of various market participants, and it found that fundamental supply and demand factors provide the best explanation for the recent crude oil price increases.

If we want cheaper oil, drill here, drill now!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 29, 2008 12:12 PM (VBon8)

45 #40 JackStraw.  With all the huffin, puffin, and bullshit hyperbole on the oil price problem, sometimes one doesn't know who to believe.  I have heard that prior to 1999, a company had to actually use the oil purchased in the oil futures contracts, i.e. airlines, shipping companies etc.  With a change in rules, now hedge funds can purchase futures contracts, and the dollar volume in the contracts went from 19 bilion in 1999 to 260 billion in 2007.  There is also something about this being done on the London exchange. 
These bits of information come from the democats, and their tirades against the EVIL SPECULATORS.  Because it if from the demonrats, I don't fully trust it.  Anybody else have some input?

Posted by: RWB at July 29, 2008 12:36 PM (MKxON)

46 How about linking those three together with a logging chain and tossing them all overboard?   Even the sharks wouldn't touch'em.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 29, 2008 01:01 PM (SLqkZ)

47

It's an easy Home Run... just like Border Security was.

 

Unfortunately, the GOP is way too apethetic.  They refuse to take the gloves off, and we may suffer the consequences of that.

Posted by: Terry at July 29, 2008 03:44 PM (+7Usq)

48 When is this party going to drum out the crooks and perverts?

If you drummed out all the crooks and perverts in congress, both Dem and Rep, the capitol building would be a ghost town.


Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 29, 2008 04:53 PM (SLqkZ)

49 You can't save the planet, Purple Aveng, by poisoning  the ocean.  What 'er ya thinkin'?

Posted by: marbles at July 29, 2008 07:33 PM (c3H+i)

50 to quote the MSM drill drill drill Sad news is it won't do a damn thing for domestic supplies. Any increase in domestic production will be sold in INTERNATIONAL markets to the highest bidder.

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