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July 23, 2008

Good Point: Without Even Noting Our Victory, Media Has Gone From Claim "War Cannot Be Won" to "War Cannot Be Lost"
— Ace

Neat trick, that.

Obama's surrender and defeat strategy was previously sound because the war couldn't be won. So "defeat" was already guaranteed; what's the downside of withdrawal?

Without a single front-page piece announcing to the world the War in Iraq has been all but won, the media shifts its claim -- repealing their coverage sub silencio, as lawyers say when judges overturn a previous decision while pretending they didn't.

Now the war cannot be lost, so Obama's policies are borderline irrelevant, and there's no risk at all electing him. If he withdraws precipitously, not taking into account changing facts on the ground (such as the long-time-coming Al Qaeda mini-Tet), well, there's still no downside. Nothing The Chosen One can do can possibly result in harm.

Grayhawk makes this point in a long piece about the left's collective meltdown over McCain's "lose a war to win a political campaign" remark.

I am still bewildered that the media believes this is somehow proper. They went from assuming the war was unwinnable -- and frequently stating that explicitly -- to assuming the war is unloseable, without once prominently reporting on the fact we're winning the war, and in fact have nearly won in.

They do not report this directly. It's always assumed as background information in reports on other matters.

I'm sorry, MSM, but this will simply will not do. You cannot assume a victory in a major war as background information without even actually reporting on that.

Think of how bizarre this is. Imagine if the media never actually bothered who'd won a presidential campaign, but instead simply changed one day from reporting on President Clinton to reporting on President Bush, without once providing an article explaining the reasons for the editorial decision to begin calling the president "George Bush" rather than "Bill Clinton." *

And you cannot change your positions like a child who wants his cookie to always conclude, "Therefore, we should have our cookie, and our cookie is named Barack Hussein Obama."

* Often I skip stories believing they're adequately covered in the news or on talk radio or on other blogs. But this is just a blog with a few cobloggers.

Does the MSM now take that position as well -- that they assume that all the information they're deliberately withholding from the public will be provided to them by alternative sources? Do newspapers now freely admit they are incomplete by design, even when it comes to watershed events like victory in a foreign war?

Does the MSM now assume that it will be supplemented by blogs and talk radio, thus freeing them from reporting on distasteful subjects like American military victories?

For Example: Chris Matthews has gone from war-cannot-be-won to war-cannot-be-lost overnight, apparently, assuming this as background information which shapes his opinion that... the victory in Iraq benefits Barack Obama.

I don't mind that analysis per se. But just last week Chris Matthews was claiming the surge had not worked at all. Repeatedly. Now it's worked so well we've won the war, and thus the world is made safe for President Barack Hussein Obama.

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1 It's Orwellian -- literally. Iraq is winnable. Iraq has always been winnable.

Results 1 - 10 of about 59,600 for iraq "unwinnable war". (0.24 seconds)

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at July 23, 2008 11:04 AM (j02xJ)

It's Orwellian -- literally

That's just what I was thinking.

Posted by: Bugler at July 23, 2008 11:07 AM (YCVBL)

3 They do not report this directly. It's always assumed as background information in reports on other matters. Well, they don't want to say it - Bush was right and won the war.

Posted by: topsecretk9 at July 23, 2008 11:07 AM (6ZZNp)

4 Oh - and I was still of the thought that Sadr had us by the balls still. Civil War? No?

Posted by: topsecretk9 at July 23, 2008 11:09 AM (6ZZNp)

5 This is something I've worried about too, and nothing new. The Democrats went from opposing every anti-Soviet policy or program to claiming credit for winning the Cold War in about 15 seconds in 1989, and successfully rewrote history to make it a bipartisan "we were with you every step of the way" thing.

Posted by: suedenim at July 23, 2008 11:14 AM (rQdaX)

6 Has NBC ever announced that the "civil war" in Iraq is over? So we can have a toast, or something?

Posted by: ajmalkov at July 23, 2008 11:28 AM (8r/RM)

7 The media is just taking its cue from its new master, the Messiah. His instantaneous changes of his positions would have branded him a dangerous fraud fifty years ago, but in today's degraded world he's a Lightworker, a gift to us all. Barack Obama, July 14, 2008 New York Times op-ed Iraqs leaders... have not reached the political accommodation that was the stated purpose of the surge. Barack Obama, July 21, 2008, interview with ABC News Terry Moran So what you had is a combination of political factors inside of Iraq that then came right at the same time as terrific work by our troops... I am glad that in fact those political dynamic[sic] shifted at the same time that our troops did outstanding work. Barack Obama, Amman, Jordan, press conference, July 22, 2008 "So far, I think we have not seen the kind of political reconciliation that's going to bring about long-term stability in Iraq." We've always been at war with Oceania. The chocolate ration has been increased to 20 grams. She's my daughter. (slap). She's my sister. (slap). My daughter. (slap). My sister. (slap).

Posted by: Tom W. at July 23, 2008 11:29 AM (pXS7q)

8 "You can all vote for Obama because we've won the war already" isn't much of a rallying cry. It's more of a tacit admission that he wouldn't be able to handle a foreign conflict of that magnitude.

Which is kind of the President's job.

Posted by: AndrewR at July 23, 2008 11:29 AM (Jq3uL)

This is very hard for the MSM to accept. I'm surprised they haven't demanded a recount yet.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 23, 2008 11:38 AM (Nwbo8)

10 This country would be a hell of a lot easier to straighten out if shooting people was legal.

Posted by: SGT Dan at July 23, 2008 11:41 AM (ACq/K)

11 It's more of a tacit admission that he wouldn't be able to handle a foreign conflict of that magnitude.

No, no, conflicts are only started by people like Chimpy McHitlerburton and cabals of evil Jew neocons. Obama has elected to grace us mortals with His Presence as our ruler, and He will prevent future conflict with His infinite wisdom and His Hope for Change.

Posted by: suedenim at July 23, 2008 11:43 AM (sjoS1)

It's like when the domino theory of Southeast Asia became the "discredited domino theory" without anyone ever explaining how it was discredited. And the millions of dead Cambodians ain't talkin'.

Or how the Reagan military buildup was pointless because there was no way we could catch up with the Soviets even with the buildup; then the USSR went poof, and the Reagan military buildup was pointless because the Soviets were so far behind us that the buildup was just gilding the lily. Strobe Talbott was a leading exponent of both views.

And now, the Iraq war has gone from unwinnable to unloseable, but it's impossible to define when we've won -- and does anyone really ever win? Isn't everyone a loser?

Except Obama. He transcends victory and defeat.

Posted by: Bob Hawkins at July 23, 2008 11:49 AM (eZ0vq)

13 Sgt. Dan - thank goodness the left is against the 2nd Amendment

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 23, 2008 12:16 PM (zpaDL)

Do you know who else this benefits?

Mitt Romney.

Posted by: headhunt23 at July 23, 2008 12:20 PM (OMCBg)

Sadly, the MSM is pretty much gonna give their hero a pass on events and his judgement- they want him to win, nothing else matters.

I remember in 1992 the "worst economy since the great depression was growing again by Aug.- no matter, it only would have hurt Billy Jeff chances.

Their mask slipping off for good is exemplified by little Chrissy- fully bought and paid for along with his vile cable network.

Posted by: jjshaka at July 23, 2008 03:01 PM (rWvpV)

16

I'm tellin ya, I think those douchebags went over there to help control the message, or change it to Barry's benefit.

But they can't even get this guy to make a simple coherent statement on anything, LMAO.

Posted by: Rev Dr The Man E Buzz BigNuts at July 23, 2008 03:09 PM (sf4Oe)

17 Somebody please splice together a video of the dozen-or-so times that Eleanor Clift has screamed "The war is lost!!" and "Excuse me!! This war is unwinnable!!" on McLaughlin Group. Send it to JMcL; he'll run it on the show, I bet.

Posted by: g Hussein p at July 23, 2008 03:10 PM (M6S8H)

18 The Jew is using the black as muscle, and you are left defenseless!

Posted by: Jim62sch at July 23, 2008 03:14 PM (ubHgw)

19 Same way the drive-bys treat the economy. Right after the election there was the Bush recession. Then years pass and now the great economy has fallen into a recession. They forgot to report on the great economy part.

Posted by: DSkinner at July 23, 2008 03:23 PM (9uTuS)

20

"thus the world is made safe for President Barack Hussein Obama"

Should read...

"thus the world is made safe by President Barack Hussein Obama

Posted by: Rev Dr The Man E Buzz BigNuts at July 23, 2008 03:24 PM (sf4Oe)

21 The meaningful point is OBAMA WAS WRONG.

They think that the situation that proves OBAMA WAS WRONG benefits Obama because it renders the issue HE WAS WRONG ABOUT moot, when, in fact, it's simply a billboard-sized proof that OBAMA WAS WRONG.

No one's going to buy something that hard to nuance.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at July 23, 2008 03:35 PM (XSmBC)

22

No, Obama was right.

Get the new story straight.

Posted by: Rev Dr The Man E Buzz BigNuts at July 23, 2008 03:41 PM (sf4Oe)

Point A: The war cannot be won.

Point C: The war cannot be lost.

Missing Point B: BUSH WAS RIGHT. This needs to be tatooed on the foreheads of Mathews, Olbermann, Matt F'in Lauer and, most of all, the Senate Majority Leader.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 23, 2008 03:58 PM (B+qrE)

24 Oceania is at war with Eurasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.

Posted by: OregonMuse at July 23, 2008 04:00 PM (FO+YO)

Ace,

A request: could you please refer to your loyal minion posting-morons as "co-bloggers", with a hyphen?

Everytime I see it written as "cobloggers" I read it as "cob-loggers", which is something else entirely. I'm not sure what, mind you, but I'm pretty sure it's scatologic in nature...

Posted by: John Bradley at July 23, 2008 05:08 PM (Y3Sui)

26 Cobb-loggers. I invoke Rule 34!

Posted by: Vercingetorix at July 23, 2008 05:38 PM (V/FgT)

27 Michael Ware was on CNN last week saying the war had already been lost. Well what is it? If you have twenty four hours to fill it might be possible to actually talk about the war. Bump nancy grace off for a week and bring in as many guests as you want.

Posted by: bleh at July 23, 2008 08:34 PM (GNCy6)

28 "Mission Accomplished"?

Posted by: Michael K. at July 24, 2008 07:30 AM (H6VxR)

"Mission Accomplished"?

Knock on wood

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