1

So does this mean we should start a major war to reduce the number of people on this earth?   do we have to nuke Terhan to save the earth.   Well if we must we must.  just thin of all the cement we will save.

 

 

But I wonder how much CO2 those fires that are fed by the environmental wacko rules and regulation on clearing brush for the "natural habitat" is releasing

2 China is closing some cement plants for the Olympics because of pollution. Problem solved!

3 Now we know the real cause of the great harm to the planet: Grauman's Chinese Theater.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grauman's_Chinese_Theater

I'm with Dr. James Hansen and say let's round each and every one of those bastards who's handprints are all over the global warming crime. They've left their signature. Let's try and convict them for crimes against humanity.

4 Some undergrad enviro-idiot once pulled this cement business on me as a reason not to build nuke plants.   "You'll never get back the amount of CO2 released from making all the cement for nuke plants, no matter how clean or how long nuke plants run."

Never, he said.

Total bullshit:

http://timjervis.blogspot.com/2007/05/co2-pollution-from-nuclear-construction.html

5 The same people who use Orwell's 1984 as the guide for governance, now want to ensure Erlich's Population Bomb becomes reality.

Next thing you know, these idiots will start thinking that Marx is a rational basis for an economic system.

6

So let's put this all together shall we?

The Hoover Damn was built with 3.3 Million Meters of concrete.  A single cubic meter of concrete weighs about 1.4 tons.  So the full weight of the concrete was 4.62 Million Tons. 

I'm not sure their mixture but 2 parts concrete to 3 parts sand is typical.  Let's say 35% of the weight of concrete is actually from the lime then, not gravel or sand (fines). 

That's ballpark...which leaves us with 1.72 Million Tons of Lime used.  By the article's math, that also means 1.72 Million Tons of CO2 released by just the concrete on the dam, not even counting the other CO2 likely used on the project from machinery, metal production, cars, exhaling, etc.

 From Dept. of Interior site:

"The average annual net generation for Hoover Powerplant for 1947 through 2005 was about 4.4 billion kilowatt-hours."

In 58 years they have generated about 256 billion kilowatt-hours of electricity.

Now...Terrapass tells me that to offset a ton of C02, I'll need to hand them 12 dollars.  OK so let's calculate...how much would it cost to offset just the concrete in the fucking Hoover Dam.  20.64 Billion Dollars.

If electricity is costing about 10 cents per kilowatt-hour in Nevada these days, that means that in todays dollars they've made 25.6 Billion Dollars worth of dank hydroelectricity since opening shop.  That's pretty great since it cost 676 million of todays dollars to do it.  So 24.9 Billion profit, simplistically.

Value of total Hoover Dam power heretofore : 24.9 Billion Dollars

Cost to offset C02 from use of concrete alone: 20.64 Billion Dollars

 

 

 

7 Humanity does not equal a virus
Liberals do


If these things really do cause THIS much global warming then i'd like to stick all these idiots out in a reservation in some corner of America or one of those islands we own like guam or saipan. Basically drop them all down there, ban everything they claim causes global warming and let them turn into a stone age dictatorship.

8 The worst part of this whole thing is that the chemical reaction invovled is reversable. After it sets concrete begins to absorb CO2 from the air, turning back into limestone. That's one of the reasons the whole Biosphere2 project failed, the concrete in the structure kept pulling CO2 out of the air faster than the designers planned. The upshot is that over geologic timescales the only contribution of cement to the CO2 concentration in the air is from the energy required to actually make it.

9 Liberals,

Want to cut down on CO2 production?  Stop breathing.

Remember to hang yourself rather than using car exhaust in order to remain carbon-neutral.


Have a nice day.

10

Oh, for fuck's sake...

So what that means is that California can now tax the cement plants out of existence. The amusing thing is that the state government seems to wonder why businesses keep packing up and leaving.

It would seem, therefore, that California, with its impressive GDP, is going to try to bankrupt itself.

Brilliant.

tmi3rd

11 Where is everybody?

12

tmi3rd had me at "Oh, for fuck's sake..."

 

13

It all seems to make sense.  If we quit producing cement, then pretty soon we won't have any decent roads, and we can quit driving cars.

It's a win-win.

14 Never mind...here you are.  

15 Is Cali also going to label humans with a global warming tag, perhaps measure each individual's metabolism for his exothermic release to the environment?

Funny thing about life... it's in a constant state of creating, egads, heat and chaos. I'm guessing those further contribute to global cooling warming climate change. Turns out, man really is responsible for that part of the anthropogenic warming.

Best we purge the planet of all biological entities, then hope Gaia dumps salt on the graves. Just to be sure.

16 All we need to do is stop cutting down trees

Not likely to be much of a problem in California. They're burning first.

Hmmm ... is the carbon footprint of California's mismanaged forests bigger than the one for the cement plants? Since the former was brought to us by the Sierra Club and assorted other greenies, I bet The Deciders won't be letting us in on the answer anytime soon.

17

Can we please tell the environmental wackos to sit down and shut up?    Maybe we can place them on some type of reservation or something.   Place some polar bears and grizzly bears in there  make sure to include some wolves they love wolves and of course the snail datter and the snowy oil thingy.   We can outlaw campfires in the reservation and all forms of energy. 

 

Problems should be solved in about 3 days depending on how much hunger the bears and wolves have.

 

18 Cement is racist.  Think about it -- when was the last time you saw black or brown cement? 

Haters.

19 Idiots.  With the input of some additional energy and water, the CO2 can be converted into synthesis gas.

20 Stupid hippies want to get rid of water, too.

21 Can't we all just get along? Everyone's always walkin' all over me. What'd I do?

22

 

What will be their next target? The Happy Cows of California?

 The U.S. Food and Agriculture Organization says that agricultural methane output could increase by 60 percent by 2030 [Source: Times Online]. The world's 1.5 billion cows and billions of other grazing animals emit dozens of polluting gases, including lots of methane. Two-thirds of all ammonia comes from cows.

In 2003, the government of New Zealand proposed a flatulence tax, which was not adopted because of public protest.

Bastards!

23

Would it be obnoxious of me to point out McCain is buying into this shiite?

 

Probably.

24 Baking a cake releases carbon dioxide, too.  Al Gore likes cake.  Michelle's kids like cake.   Crisis.

Betty Crocker hates the Earth.

The patients are running the asylum in California.

25 HOnestly, these fools are going to wake up someday...but I don't know how much damage they'll do in the meantime.

26

Just wonderin, How Do you weigh gas? If a ton of lime causes nearly another ton of the "bad gas" to be created in the process and then released into the air, how do they know?

My bitch...Put your favorite SUV into an enclosed space, with a scale, and measure the diference between a full tank of gas, and after running it out in that same space, still enclosed, of coarse, and MORONS dont try this at home!

I cant see the fuel spent equaling the gas. um uplift? maybe? same weight after, or even possibly more.

someone educate me, please.

27

Finally someone is waking up to the threat Betty Crocker presents to this  country planet  Think of all the baking and worse yet, the carbs.  I'm not even going to get into trans-fats. 

You bet your asses it's a crisis, your gigantic, american, cake eating asses. 

Fatties.

 

 

 

28 Good God, this blog is really really really making me want cake.

29

Awesome.

Included in the world's largest cement producers are Mexico, Brazil, India, Thailand and Egypt where they have a shitload of sand and very few trees.  Hell, very few of anything but very poor people and really old temples and shit which are mostly made out of sand, and limestone and water...  Damn, they sure have been here a long time.

This kind of stuff fills my black heart with joy.  If a few million Californians have to go as well, it's California, who's gonna miss 'em?

30 If you know the balanced chemical reaction you can weigh the gas by calculating how much carbon dioxide is produced from a given mass of starting materials.

The gas can be "weighed" directly in a number of ways.  One way is to measure the pressure, volume, and temperature of the collected CO2 product per known amount of starting material. 

PEEVEE=ENNARRTEE

31

Good God, this blog is really really really making me want cake.

Posted by: alexthechick at July 07, 2008 10:10 PM (GknYa)

Exactly why is it that you want to destroy this planet?  Isn't your ass huge enough already (kidding, I'm sure your ass is normal sized or if it's a little big it's more like a J'Lo badonkadonk than a Rosie O'Donnell two garbage bags full of lard)? 

PEEVEE=ENNARRTEE

I was more comfortable talking about cake. 

 

32

FUCK THE EARTH, RIGHT IN THE ASSHOLE.  STARTING NOW . . .

33

As the AGW backlash begins and grows, those global warming labels for cars will become badges of honor.  But not in the way CARB intended.

Of course, we won't need roads or cars after 01/2009.  We'll all be riding unicorns and driving flying cars powered by Hope and Change^tm.

34

 

Starting material...

30 gallons of gas or diesel, OK so far...

Show me 300 lbs ? of HARMFULL gas?

WE die if there is no C02.

of coarse, we all die..

post may be redundant

sorry

NOT

35 I am one of the most mild mannered people but the stupidity exposed on this blog makes of want to cuss. Global warning believers.duck off!

36

As a geologist, let me ask one thing: What are the green teams going to do when oceanic tectonics cause a massive methane hydrate outgassing, thereby massively effecting climate temperature? I know they'll need a second to go google that but while they're at it they need to look up the relationship between polar magnetic reversals (which we are due for) and the Van Allen belt, as well as the eventual eruption of the Yellowstone Caldera, which will probably kill us all.

I only ask because as a Human, I considered technology to be our evolutionary advantage and best chance to getting off this planet before it some day mows us under as a species. I guess they're content with all of us dying so that they can save a few trees that will get wiped out anyway.  After all, if Al Gore says it's true, who are we to question the apex of liberal evolution?

37 I'll catch hell for this, but I have decided I don't give a shit about the future of the planet. I just need another 15-20 years, tops. Cross some stuff off my bucket list, then fuck all.

38 I'm not into politics. I'm into survival.

39 "effecting" Well, I'm not a geologist, and I certainly can't answer your question, but I think they're all right, because, in fact, they'll be "affecting" climate temperature. Or else I'm wrong. In either case, right or wrong, I'm a pedantic asshole.

40

Nurse Cheri ,

 

good thing we killed off the millions upon millions of bufallo then.  could you imagine all the methane they would have released.  

 

 

41

Dont know about Yellowstone caldera

How bout this CERN experiment coming up soon?

spose to be about smashing atoms at two times the speed of light.

might cause black holes, HERE!

Only a 1 in fifty million chance..of coarse..

gotta love those scientists..

someone wins the lottery every week

at about the same odds

42 Criminey, a few years ago we were told to put in waterless landscaping, lots of reflective rock and cement so as to cut down on water.

I blame the Romans!!

43 What size concrete clod-hoppers would it take to sink Al Gore?  I'm thinking about a refrigerator-sized one for each foot, but damn it would be worth it just for the peace and quiet, no?

44

 Rob B

geology was my major also.  geology should be a required topic in schools.  It would have stopped this AGW bullshit in its tracks.  Anyone that understands the climatic changes this earth as gone thru over the last 4 billion years would see that a puny 2 degree change in temp is very very normal. 

 

 

45

When the Yellowstone caldera goes it is safe to say the nuclear winter they were worried about in the 80's will feel like a spring.   not only will the entire western halve of the USa be wiped out but the climate will be placed into a mjor ice age.  It eruptes about every 600,000 years or so.   the last eruptions was about 600,000 years ago.   The dome is rising and many geologists believe that an eruption is close as far as geologic time goes.  this could be anywhere from a year from now up too 10,000 years from now. 

 

46

I totally agree, unseen. The funny part is that even George Calin got it and he never finished highschool.

Look up his "The Planet Is Fine" sketch. It's perfect.

47

eman,

PV=nRT only works for ideal gases. To determine the mass of CO₂ you'd weigh your calcium carbonate and your resulting calcium oxide. As you mentioned, the difference is the approximate mass of carbon dioxide emitted (weighing the fuel burned by auto engines and scrubbing and weighing the exhaust gas is the method the EPA uses to create its fuel economy ratings).

It is far more likely that there is a reason why we are living in a near average interglacial period of the current Ice Age. What do you mean, Hank? Current CO₂ levels are almost too low to sustain life and that the recent rise is the result of emergence from the "Little Ice Age" as noted by higher ambient temps now relative to those 200 to 300 years ago. IOW, CO₂ is not a "climate forcing" but is the result of "climate forcings", as it were.

Our oceans are humongous CO₂ buffers that can hold far more CO₂ than can be produced by all living beings on this rock, Man included, as well as that which is formed geochemically.

BTW, human exhaled breath is approximately 10% water and 4% carbon dioxide. It also contains nitrogen dioxide, ammonia, hydrogen sulfide, acetone, ethanol, carbon monoxide, hydrogen, and a host of other products of metabolism in addition to the unmodified constituents of inhaled air.

--"It never ceases to amaze me that people, especially leftist politicians, think that you can wave a magic wand and repeal the laws of physics, chemistry, and economics."

48 Did you even have to study the Milakovich theory as a possible explaination for glaciation cycles? If nothing else, that was a big reminder that global position vastly effects the amount of free energy entering into the earths system due to solar energy. Of course, we all know that that big radiant ball of energy isn't effecting anything because it's a constant. Right?

49

Rob, 

 

Yeah  i like this quote from jurassic Park:

 

But we have soothed ourselves into imagining sudden change as something that happens outside the normal order of things. An accident, like a car crash. Or beyond our control, like a fatal illness. We do not conceive of sudden, radical, irrational change as built into the very fabric of existence. Yet it is.

50

 --"It never ceases to amaze me that people, especially leftist politicians, think that you can wave a magic wand and repeal the laws of physics, chemistry, and economics."

You lose a lot of journalism and communication majors on those three, too.  And God help you if you have to try to explain one to a reporter. At least if you say "it's magic" you don't get misquoted.

51

Of course, we all know that that big radiant ball of energy isn't effecting anything because it's a constant. Right?

Rob B

Well if by constant you mean ever changing then yeah. 

 

As far as Milakovich theory I tend to think it explains things pretty well.  

the earthquake on christmas 2005?   knocked the earth from its rotation by a small degree.

 

I'm a firm believer in negative and positive feedback cycles.  that major climate shifts are due to many factors that work together to cause massive warming or massive cooling which then tends to staying in that trend until something new and massive comes and chages that trend.  Much like the stock market. 

 

 

52 I have a Divining rod with the words "3-d siesmic" that I gave to our geophysics department when they were having to do some inverstor information talks. They asked me if we didn't need it more in the geology department but I told them I had a magic 8-ball and a quija board.

53

which department was that I went to Penn State and it sounds like something our geology department would have done.

 

 

54

Sorry, it's a oil and gas company department.

I love scotch but it's hell on my spelling and i forget to elaborate the finer points of my chicanery.  

I'm a firm believer in negative and positive feedback cycles. 

Me too, the best example I've even come across was related to the Mt Pinatubo eruption in the 1990's. If I remember correctly, it put somewhere near 14.5 million tons of Sulfur Dioxide into the atmosphere and cooled the globe about a 1 degree C. But lost in that was that the local effect was a massive greening of the area due to biofeedback of being in a high CO2 enviroment. If biofeedback didn't work, life simply wouldn't be here at all considering all the huge geologic events in earth history.

Likewise, I believe that the chemisty demands a balance when altered by energy that we'd recognize if we just had a grasp of the whole equation.

55

James Hansen?  Isn't he the guy they named "Hansen's Disease" after?

If not, they should.

Retroactively.

56

right now it is the lack of sunspot activity that is worrying.  It could be a very cold fall and winter in the north this year.  but somehow I know the AGW supports will try to blame it on co2.

 

 

57

Some clown: "the earthquake on christmas 2005?   knocked the earth from its rotation by a small degree."

Oh yeah, that makes a fuck of a lot of sense. 

Would some clown like to explain the physics involved?

Nahhhhh... that would require explaining why the millions of earthquakes the Earth has undergone did NOT knock it "from its rotation by a small degree."

Snork!

58

G. L. Tirebiter

you should know what you are talking about before you speak.

In the hours after last month's Sumatra earthquake, an astonishing report began to circulate: So potent was the undersea jolt that it disrupted the planet's rotation, causing the day to shorten ever so slightly.

But did it?

"The answer to this question is a definite yes," write NASA scientists Richard Gross and Benjamin Chao in an article published Tuesday in Eos, the weekly newspaper of the American Geophysical Union. After plugging measurements of the Sumatra quake into a computer model, the scientists calculated that the quake sped up the planet's rotation - thus shortening the length of the day - by as much as 2.68 millionths of a second.

They also determined that the quake nudged the North Pole an inch closer to Northern Japan.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/movies/bal-hs.earth07jan07,0,6724104.story

59

as far as the physics involved?  Maybe this will expalin it to you.

 

When the crustal plates curled together, they unleashed a lethal tsunami and a huge burst of energy. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, the magnitude 9.0 Sumatra quake was equivalent to the detonation of 75 million tons of TNT, or 23,000 atomic bombs. They also made the planet more compact, and thus caused it to rotate faster.

"Just like a spinning ice skater who pulls her arms in," says Thomas O'Brian, head of the time and frequency division of the National Institute of Standards

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/movies/bal-hs.earth07jan07,0,6724104.story

60 It could be a very cold fall and winter in the north this year.  but somehow I know the AGW supports will try to blame it on co2.

Been there, done that.  Global warming causes (drum roll) ---> Global Dimming.

61

...would some clown explain the physics involved?

Elementary. The bigger earthquakes jiggle the aether, causing the firmament to shake the background slightly, diminishing the effect of dark matter on the brane (not misspelled) ...it's kind of like dark green jello, y'know.

U can haz physics?

62 Would it be obnoxious of me to point out McCain is buying into this shiite?

Buying into shutting down cement production? Obnoxious? That's not really the question we should be asking, Dave. Now, would you be retarded for asserting that he wants to shut down cement production? Yes. That would be retarded.

63 On the bright side, the only method to make roads without cement is to use our dear friend oil. So, lets drill for some. 

64 The plants told me they like more CO2.

65 In the hours after last month's Sumatra earthquake, an astonishing report began to circulate: So potent was the undersea jolt that it disrupted the planet's rotation, causing the day to shorten ever so slightly.

And...so what?  Every orbit of the earth and moon around the barysphere lengthens the day ever so slightly.

66

California is also planning to label all cars with a global warming score. Which is as silly as it is ineffectual.

 

I didn't read all the comments, so if somebody's already said this...blow me.

The global warming score label is to encourage the moonbats to vandalize cars.

Watch.

67 Western Civ is slowly losing its collective mind. I suppose the Indian subcontinent and China will supplant us in the next 100 years or so. Minds in Western leadership are shutting down. The hysteria over hypothetically disastrous global warmi... uh, I mean, "climate change," is reaching congruency with the hysteria over the alleged effects of second-hand smoke. In five years or less, anyone who questions the severity or significance of anthropogenic climate change will be as ostracized as anyone who dares question the alarm over second-hand smoke. The same process of ideological indoctrination is at work. In the West of 2100, you will be allowed to fuck anything you like, but what you eat, drink, spend, say, buy, use or trade will be under 42 different levels of State scrutiny. The martinet Puritans are coming back, except that the ones in the future will wear Green jumpsuits of carbon-neutral hemp, ready to bury you in Kafkaesque layers of eco-fascism. Don't miss the novella "Fallen Angels" by Pournelle, Niven and Flynn... it would be perfect for our times had it not based itself on the absurd fears of global cooling prevalent at the time of its writing.

68 Wow, hard luck.

(Get it?  Hard?)

69 Slublog, call your office.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9412/obamaaslion2tu3.jpg

70 All we need to do is stop cutting down trees (also known as "carbon sinks")... 

Hmmm... the wood from those cut-down trees is primarily carbon.  As long as it remains in use as a component of a house or a piece of furniture, the carbon remains in the wood.  And, if new trees are allowed to grow in place of the ones cut down, they absorb carbon from the atmosphere to make more wood.  Now contrast that to the Sierra Cult's favored method means of managing a forest- do nothing and let it burn down.  What happens to all that carbon then?

This is fairly easy to figure out for someone with half a brain, which may be the problem.

71 Mmm.... sweet, healthy, nutritious, carbon dioxide.

72 OK humanity, time to curl up in a fetal position and hold your breath till you die. On three...

73 So does this mean Hollywood will have to get slapped with a carbon tax for all of their Coke use?  The first step in the processing of Coca leaves requires powdered concrete mix.

74
The plan by the California Air Resources Board to limit the production of cement is RACIST. The bulk of the construction industry employment in California is hispanic. Hispanic employment would be inordinately affected (right notropis?) in relation to other races if lack of cement for the construction industry in California caused a contraction in construction employment. This is a DEFACTO RACIST RESULT.

I'd sue but I don't live in California, I'm not in the construction industry and I'm not hispanic. Oh hell, I'm gonna sue anyway. For the children.

75
Oops, I meant to write "For the money." Sorry for the confusion.

76

It must be tough being an elite.  They have all these grand ideas for utopia.  Too bad about their effect on the lives of others, but it's for the greater good...

No sale.  Most of the evil in my lifetime came from those with grand ideas about how others should live.  Grand ideas about how others should be forced to live.  

The ideas never turn out as planned, but their intentions were good.  Nobody ever apologizes.  Nobody ever says "We were wrong."  The next idea comes along.  Few pay attention.  The papers are full of the lives of celebrities and stories about games.

     

 

77 All that carbon dioxide has been trapped uselessly inside limestone for ages. What was the earf like before all those critters stored it in their shells? Was the carbon dioxide level in the air higher, or was it otherwise engaged, and what was the climate like then?

78

Posted by: Dr. Chopper at July 07, 2008 07:11 PM (vjl9g)

You left out the gravel weight.  My structural engineering professor said (way back in the day) that some of the "gravel" was the size of 10' boulders.  Therefore; you would end up with a lot less cement weight.

Total effect zero if you count what the earth does to maintain itself  (recycle all the gases) and the effect of solar radiation.

79

Posted by: unseen at July 07, 2008 11:07 PM (aVGmX)

We on the eastern seaboard won't have long to worry about the Yellostone Caldera - we'll get buried in ash.  You survive if you can hold your breath for a year.

80 If the environs keep coming up with more things we need to do without, people will move out of this nuthouse state by the droves.  It is getting too costly to live there anyway.  Has anyone noticed it is the beach people who are really into othis scam.

81

A British court refused to allow "An Inconvenient Truth" to be shown in schools because, among other things, Al Gore manipulated the CO2/temperature charts.

The data proves CO2 concentration changes come AFTER temperature changes.  Al changed all that by moving the CO2 curve back in time slightly to make it look like CO2 concentration changes came before temperature changes.

82

That's not really the question we should be asking, Dave

Don't be a pedant.  You know perfectly well I'm referring to his policy positions on global warming.  Cap and trade?  Fuck that.

 

And his nifty "green" apparel.

 

 

83

"The score takes into account emissions related to production of fuel for each vehicle as well as the direct emissions from vehicles"

So if California's global warming score is going to take into account emissions to produce the fuel for the vehicle are they going to also include the emissions it takes to produce those batteries or the emissions those batteries will be giving off when they are sitting in a dump somewhere for those hybrids and electric cars. How about the electricity emissions for charging up the electric cars?

This is California's way of getting around not being able to set fuel mileage laws.

84

Ha!  McCain is selling organic cotton clothing.  What a dumbass.  How pathetic.

He needs to be selling shirts with guns, planes and aircraft carriers on them.  And derricks.

85

The car labels are the new Scarlet letter. The only sins are enviro and health sins and the left are the new Puitans.

Prepare ye for the witch hunts.

86 puitans = puritans

87

We're going to run off the cement manufacturers, put illegal aliens out of a job, and then turn around and buy it from China.

88 Global Warming is caused by cement and my testicles, but mostly my testicles.

89 #6 - Re: erroneous Hoover Dam calculation phrephone - next time try estimating first. The dam contains ~7 million tons of concrete. If the whole thing were made only of cement and no sand, the cost of the carbon offsets would only be $84 million. Returning to your calculation and using proper decimal pt placement - the cost to offset the carbon is only $20.6 million. You are off by a factor of 1,000. And if California goes any more 'broke', they'll move up to the 5th largest economy in the world.

90 McCain is selling organic cotton clothing made in China, no doubt.

91 my testicles are really truely the cause of global warming!

92 CO2 is not a pollutant. It is plant food.

The only POSSIBLE reason to focus so intently on CO2 control is to control human activity - these greenies simply hate humanity and just don't have the stomach to urge what they really want - mass murder.

93 Okay, we don't have a budget in California, as usual.  Roads are clogged, fires are burning, gas is at $4.50 a gallon and they worry about fucking cement???  Oh yeah, they want to put a sticker on my car for carbon bullshit emissions. 
Our state government knows how to prioritize.

I'd like to dork all of them up the sqeakhole with cement and watch it set.

94

So any guesses what happens when the cement is actually used?  Yeah, it absorbs CO2 and H2O making up for a lot of the CO2 produced.  Not all.  There is only one solution for this insanity:

"these greenies simply hate humanity and just don't have the stomach to urge what they really want - mass murder."

Someone needs to sleep with the fishes and make good use of the precious cement.

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