1 Yeah, we're talking pretty full-on scumbag here.

Biden knows the military isn't voting for him, he can get a lot of leverage from the union bosses' threats and the lawyers' skullduggery.

I really, REALLY hope we have a big push on voter fraud this election. BEFORE the election. If it happens after, it could get stupid.

2 Well, I'm a lawyer, and I've already contacted the McCain campaign to volunteer for whatever they need me for in the run-up to November 4th.  As an elected official, I know a lot about the ins and outs of voter fraud, how to recognize it, and how to prevent it.  I hope I get my chance to serve, and I look forward to meeting one of Biden's army on the battlefield...

3 I hope I get my chance to serve, and I look forward to meeting one of Biden's army on the battlefield...

Go forth and conquer

4 How about Sgt (Ret) and Esq at the same time? Kidding - Biden is a douche and wouldn't last 5 minutes in a real law practice or 5 seconds in an Army unit.

5 Is there a habital planet somewhere I can go to without any Libtards on it? Can I keep them from following  me there because I want them to leave me be.

6 McCann and Goldstein--

Drunk Driving Defense, Civil Litigation and Barbarian-Gate Guarding.

Call Now.

7

Oh, God love ya! What am I talkin' about. Stand up against voter fraud!

Yeah Joe, gotta protect against those stolen elections.

Fuck you, Biden.

8 Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be a lawyer.  How the fuck to a bunch of rich guys vote for a bunch of jackasses who want to take more of their money is beyond me.  Law schools breed these fuckers, the irony here is that the lawyers are the barbarians at the gate.

9 Irony is "Plugs" Biden calling someone else brain-dead.

10 I got nothin' against lawyers per se.  I just have something against jackass politicians thinking that lawyers saved the civilized world from "barbarians".

As far as I know, Rome was full of lawyers.  Didn't stop Attila from crashing the gates.

11 Is it me, or is Biden becoming so gaffe-prone that we are just used to this bullshit now?  I mean, he could come out tomorrow praising the efficiency of Hitler and the MSM would be like "Oh, there goes ole Joe again, ain't he funny?"

12 How did Obama "win" his first election? By getting all the other candidates thrown off the ballot. He had his people go through their petitions, signature by signature, and find reasons to get those names taken off. Until they didn't have enough signatures to qualify. So he "won."

Why wouldn't he try crap like that again?

13

"There are five people in my family who come to mind when I think about standing between me and "the barbarians at the gate". Their names did not end with "esq". They begin with "Sgt", "Cpt", "E4", "T2" and "S1". "

 

suh-NAP. 

Biden is such a tool.

14

Lawyers are just as much fun to hunt as hobos but they're a lot easier to clean.

15 Yep, the Donks are trying to chea their way to victory again. The polls are tanking, the Republicans aren't rolling over & giving up, a big election issue or three based on THE ECONOMY is rollingup a month out of the election. So what can good Democrats do to avert defeat? Cast Mass Raise Dead and Charm Illegal Alien andObfuscate Write-In Ballot for a couple of weeks. If the bastards lose this time, they are toast, and they know it. So they are going to cheat as much as possible. Be ready for it!

16 Biden Hearts Trial lawyers.......play that in peoria kiddies.

17

There are five people in my family who come to mind when I think about standing between me and "the barbarians at the gate". Their names did not end with "esq". They begin with "Sgt", "Cpt", "E4", "T2" and "S1".

Straightforward and magnificent.

Like most soldiers, I might add.

18 Sounds like a campaign ad to me.

Barack Obama and Joe Biden think these people are all that stand between you and barbarians... John McCain knows that these are the true men and women who keep our country safe...

Don't forget to round up some pictures of lawyers (ones that are in jail/ high profile scumbags) and put that up against some pics of soldiers (pics like the soldier with the child on his shoe type stuff) while the ad is rolling...

19 Lawyers ARE the barbarians at the gate. Oh, not the kind you hire when you need a divorce or a will or a cover story about that hitchhiker you buried in the desert- I'm talking about Lanny Davis types. Wm Kuntsler, when he was alive. Like that.

20 I'm sure all those trial lawyers THOUGHT about serving, and thats just as good.

21

I've never disagreed with a quote not written by Karl Marx any more than that one.

And just notice all the silly Sloe Joe digressions in the post linked.  That is what kills him.  And, of course, that comes from an arrogance of working/living within an echo chamber of Dem politics.  Kerry-like, could be analagous. 

---------------------------------

A major key for Palin in debate will be to "challenge" Biden's ego; his "smarts". To go after his, as shown time and again, his most vulnerable spot.  To put him in a position where his historical default position has always been to verbally bully others using hyperbole, or a lie.  Not in a post google world can/will that shit work.

All the Biden braggadacio posts on blogosphere - and Jake Tapper has been invaluable to actually have courage to use his ABC venue to report - is a nice set up to playing out that meme/narrative/truth if Biden takes the bait and lets Sarah's challenge with a smile reanimate the testosterone injections necessary for the hair plugs to hold.  Bringing out the sarcastic, wierd smiling, embellishing-like-a-mofo Biden WE all love will key.  If he reaches out and grabs her forearm while explaining a "complex position" I'm going straight to InTrade and betting my mortgage - and I just refi'd last month with a good rate... ;-)

When I learned Biden was da Man for da One I sent out an email to my pol buds thanking the Gods.  I never had expectations like this.  Heck, I knew he was a goofball, but I figured he was affable.  I was hoping he was a bad pick simplybecause his perceived strength, foreign policy, his actual weakness.  The dividing of Iraq by ethnicity something so easy to pound on from so many angles NOT "American".

Sloe Joe Gin Fizzle may be my drink for November 4th. 

22 Link, please, Tom.

23

The reporter left out that Biden then said he was going to "get the papers, get the papers".

24

Sorry Kat.  And my pleasure.

Heinous right wing smear site, Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rezko

25 (One of my continually rotating nics.)

I think Biden, and a bunch of you morons, forget that there are conservative lawyers, and conservative trial lawyers at that.  We're few, but enough to keep the Dem hordes from dominating the courthouse to get their illegal votes counted twice.

Lawyers are like proctologists -- get shit on if they're doing their job right, but it's a job that few others can do well.

Kiss mah ass.

And vote early and often.

26

kat-missouri at September 24, 2008 01:23 AM

Digression Alert:

My mom from KC Mizzou.

That McCaskill a Senator saying such dumb things with MO* by her name painful for her... but not as painful as her sister retiring to Clinton Missouri... but it could have been worse.

It could have been Kansas... ;-)

ps. Columbia a great college town, and "your" QB was great on Jim Rome's show today.

* "My" Sen. Boxer is worse, but Claire has mo...

 

27

Kiss mah ass.

Some of my best friends are lawyers.

28 Touchy much?

29

Digression Alert:

My mom from KC Mizzou.

That McCaskill a Senator saying such dumb things with MO* by her name painful for her... but not as painful as her sister retiring to Clinton Missouri... but it could have been worse.

It could have been Kansas... ;-)

Yes, I'm in KC, MO.  Kit Bond is my guy.  Not exactly a drum beating republican whip, but a steady guy.  My only complaint is the "Kit Bond" bridge down town.  i think it was earmarked, though it is a major connection to the interstate highway.  Not opposed to fed funds for infrastructure like that, just rather they be not hidden away.

As for McCaskill, she is a real democrat pol and if people only knew who helped fund her campaign.  ugh.

Kansas...isn't that a suburb of Missouri?

30

I wish all attorneys were as devoted to thier clients a Sen. Obama:

After it had been reported in 2006 that Rezko was under federal investigation for influence-peddling, Obama purchased a 10 foot (3.0 m) wide strip of Ms. Rezko's property for $104,500, $60,000 above the assessed value.^[31][7] According to Chicago Sun-Times columnist, Mark Brown, "Rezko definitely did Obama a favor by selling him the 10-foot strip of land, making his own parcel less attractive for development."^[35] Obama acknowledges that the exchange may have created the appearance of impropriety, and stated "I consider this a mistake on my part and I regret it."^[33]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rezko

Maybe, if he had the judgment he pretends he would not have bought the 10' of land, but grabbed a 10' pole.

I'm guessing he couldn't refuse.

Which reminds me, did you all hear "The Godfather" films are now out on Blu-Ray... ;-)

31

Digression , Part Deux

My only complaint is the "Kit Bond" bridge down town. 

My grandpa a vp at Muelbach.  I've got a glorious picture of him and grandma - both Truman Dems - with Barry Goldwater during '64 campaign.  Lots of great heirlooms as Muelbach the place for so many years.  Truman's Western White House... and I type from San Clemente.  Sorta cool.

I was lucky enough, during my career, to do business on Broadway, eat at The Majestic and wander down streets where Charlie Parker's music filled the air.

I sure hope ether is still free as I think this might be angering some - but hell, it's nearly 11 and I'm jacked up on dexamethasone (radical steroid)... so let me go Johnny Carson and try a segway with a 4.8 degree of difficulty.

I love Ace's rants on ever more crazy Andy, but I'm sensitive to his being so on point regarding how Andy  may be dealing with serious digression.  Dealing with dread disease a jagged SOB, and Andy not dealing with it as well as some... but oh boy golly do I get bitchy... just ask my far better half, and kids, and friends, and jerk at Albertsons who didn't have just the right flavored pumpkin ale that Debra loves... 

Life is So Grand©

32 kat,

awesome job on the family reunion post.  Literally, GOd bless ya, and I mean this, literally, I was LOLing.

Now, as for touchy, you're damn right.  Trial lawyers are essentially driven out of the Republican party by the idiotic "tort reform" lobbyists that are a hair's breadth away from the Fannie/Freddy tools.  Controlling unjust jury awards is the job of defense counsel.  It's not the job of government.  Not my fault defense counsel are typically incompetent.  Protecting business from baseless litigation is a good cause, but more often than not, lawyer bashing is just a thin cover for protecting someone's ill-gotten gains (just like Fannie/Freddy).

If I wasn't beyond committed to conservative (not nec. Republican) goals, I'd sit this out, but BO is just too wrong.  I hate having to fight my own party because some tool with cash gets the idea that he can reform our judicial system

33 eat at The Majestic

My God, do I love that place.  And, I work on Broadway, too.  Love the Jazz bands and the smoke in the basement.  It's the last hold over of the old KC days with a "cigar" room.

You know, the only thing I haven't figured out is what they are doing now that KC enacted the "no smoke" policy.  that had to hurt.  haven't had a steak there in months.

34 Protecting business from baseless litigation is a good cause, but more often than not, lawyer bashing is just a thin cover for protecting someone's ill-gotten gains (just like Fannie/Freddy).

I admit to being half and half on that subject.  I think that juries can be excessively punitive over ridiculous subjects just from the populist socialist idea that corporations are evil, money suckers of the public trust in general (obviously, some are) and, on the other hand, sometimes, people really are damaged for the rest of their lives and the companies should pay.

I just feel that we have gone too far towards "burn the corporate bastards".  Kind of plays to my anti-socialist tendencies.

35 After what I was reading last night (from you, right?) about the power companies and the "green" power scam, it's getting apparent to me that there are just blocs of corporate interests that try to control the levers of politics.  Now it's oil v. "alternatives" and make no mistake, the oil companies don't give a rat's ass about making a bridge to energy independence.  THey just want to drill and profit.  And hell, I want them to.  Bring down the price of gas.  But it shouldn't be a choice that one has to account for in VOTING in a constitutional republic.

36

Protecting business from baseless litigation is a good cause, but more often than not, lawyer bashing is just a thin cover for protecting someone's ill-gotten gains...

I was in insurance exec in real world and like my attorneys, and the evil ones on other side, I worked hard for my ill gotten gain... ;-)_

Regarding Biden's quote, the part the actually had me flying off my swivel chair was Union aspect.  Yeah, I saw "Reds" on opening night while a student at Cal, and I realize the historical value of organized labor.  But, one of things we did before we could afford to capitalize our first ins company was Health and Welfare Benefit Adminstration for Internatinal Brotherhood of Teamsters.  No Shi ites.

The perfidious way they brought price of beneifts to employers, therefore employees, included an average of 40% margins to Teamsters - on large dollar items.  Hell, that was the least of it.  I am still ashamed at the thousands of dollars we paid for raffle tickets where a tv was the prize, if you get my drift.  Oh my, I better stop there.

Like buggy whips, there was a time and a place for everything.

Did I digress again? ;-)

37

And, I work on Broadway, too.

911; and a family biz. Like ours was. With due consideration, maybe the finest folk I was able to do busines with... and the Majestic a great place to smoke when I was allowed .... freaking fascists at the City of Hope... ;-)

[Smoking had nada to do with my multiple myeloma, they just figure quitting shows the right attitude... but they never mentioned the odd bong, or two... so don't ask, don't tell... ;-]

38 Merovign wrote @ 1,


I really, REALLY hope we have a big push on voter fraud this election. BEFORE the election. If it happens after, it could get stupid.

Me too! I recall reading an article back in 1969 or so detailing the voter fraud in 1960, and the poll-watching effort Nixon put together to make sure that didn't happen again in '68. I sure the hell hope the RNC is doing something similar this time.

39 I support revolution and if necessary full blown civil war if these leftist bastards steal the election.

40 Well, sam, if that were true, you wouldn't post it in a public forum.  So you're either an agent provacateur or a not particularly bright teenager.

I will decline your offer to engage in treasonous speculation at this time.  THx

41 Have y'all read Stealing Elections by John Fund? Came out in 2004, but very, very timely. Read it to apprise yourself of all the ways the Dems are gonna try to steal this election. (Remember the Boy Scouts motto: "Be prepared!") Right on, Otis, I hope the RNC is totally on top of all this.

42 36 After what I was reading last night (from you, right?) about the power companies and the "green" power scam, it's getting apparent to me that there are just blocs of corporate interests that try to control the levers of politics.

Hmmm...yes, that is why I am torn.  I believe in the efficiency of the market and the empowerment of free trade to improve the lot of everyone capable of creating a business, get a job, etc.

On the other hand, institutions are not people, even if people work in them and too much money in the hands of giant conglomerates makes for too much power. Point big oil v.  big energy (green). 

So, I suppose that is why I like McCain sometimes.  Kind of a Teddy Roosevelt republican.  Anti-trust.

Yes, we need business and even big business, but we do not need them to choose our government or, at least, not have more power to influence that choice than any individual citizen. And, when corporations  are doing so in order to  obtain  money from the public coffers because they are failing or cannot afford on their own or refuse to spend their own money to transition to products and services that meets the modern market's expectation, then they are no longer "free market", but siphons.

Worse, when they decide that they want to transition to these new products and services and attempt to rig elections to get their own manchurian candidate in office in order to not only drain the public coffers, but develop an unnecessary (dare I say "orchestrated) and expensive transition to other energy sources so they can make a buck from both government (our money) and by selling it as an exclusive need (our money), yes, they are too big.  

They foment corruption, not any sort of free trade, but, in fact, the opposite.

It is difficult to espouse an anti-corporate/trust position and rectify it with my somewhat libertarian ideas on the subject of free trade, but, there it is. Very, very large companies are, in fact, a significant danger to democracy while also a necessity.

I often think of the East Indies Co of Britain.  a law unto themselves, powerful enough to bring down kings and ugly enough to do what it takes.

43

Enh, 99% of lawyers give the rest of us a bad name.

How's a lawyer like a sperm? Both have a 1 in 300,000,000 chance of becoming a human being.

Why are lawyers better than whores? Whores stop fucking you after you're dead.

 

Worst decision I ever made, going to law school.  I used to be a lot more debt-free and a lot less cynical.  Oh, and a lot more debt-free; did I mention that?

*shakes head*

 

@43 -

I can't remember if it was the Dutch East Indies Co. or the Royal East India Co., but one of them had a great unoffical motto - If you aren't smart enough to steal from the company, you aren't smart enough to steal *for* the company.

I really respect that.

44 Every vote is sacred
Every vote is great
If a vote gets wasted
Dems get quite irate (unless it's for the opposition)

45

There are five people in my family who come to mind when I think about standing between me and "the barbarians at the gate". Their names did not end with "esq". They begin with "Sgt", "Cpt", "E4", "T2" and "S1".

Pssst.... Your family is the "barbarians" he speaks of.

Joe's not afraid of radical islam, Joe's afraid of US.

46 Because, y'know, the US needs to have 70% of the world's lawyers...

47 Sorry Joe, the "selected, not elected" issue already happened this election twice. The first was the MSM and DNC backing The Obamessiah over the Hildabeast to the point of hysteria. The second time was when The Obamessiah selected your sorry camp follower ass to be VP over other candidats more suited to "hope" and "change". 

All the lawyering in the country won't save the Democrats if Obama loses the popular vote by 5% or greater. That is looking to be a real possibility right now. Crying over the spilt milk in court at that point WILL have consequences for the Donks in the '10 elections. So quit whining about possible results and try to WIN the election first with tsomething beyond a TelePrompter and a photo op, OK?

48 "...Done more than any other senator combined" - Combined with what?

"...Continue to see a continuation" - Let me think about thinking about that.

"For real. For real." - Really?


I really thought this was a spoof.

49

"The city walls" seperated the productive people from the parasitic.  Joe doesn't know which side of the wall he should be on.

 

50

Is anyone astonished at the unseemly class-love lavished on the trial lawyers by Biden?  The party VP was a trial lawyer in 04 and ran again in 08 (before he Donna Rice'd himself - for younger readers that's Gennifer Flowering yourself but not actually winning afterward).

Speaking of Bubba, remember Bill claiming his Mom sang "Look for the union label" to him when he was little ?  Like 20 years old little - the song didnt come out until well after little Bubster's childhood.

BTW, in that the vast majority of union members today are government employees, just what "barbarians" are they keeping from the gates - their employers aka the government ?

If so, they did a lousy job keeping Fannie and Freddie from going all Fat Albert on the gates.  I sure wish I could fire them for it, but they're union...

51 Remember when the liberals were whinning that BUSH STOLE THE 2000 ELECTION? acting like a bunch of snveling little cry babies and running around throwing things just like the spoiled little brats they are STUPID WHIINY LIBERALS

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