October 07, 2006
— Ace Retired Geezer's post about a hate speech conviction in the U.K. got me thinking about how difficult it is to despise someone any more.
It seems to me that we should be able to irrationally hate somebody, just for fun, and to get our kicks by discriminating against them.
I suggest that we become Idahoists and discriminate against everybody from that state. We need to come up with a derogatory term like "spudders" or something to indicate their inferiority and how much we hate and despise them.
The best part of this is that it's pretty much legal. For example, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prevents employment discrimination on the basis of national origin, but there is no comparable provision for state origin. You can fire all those lazy dirty spudders at your business tomorrow just for shits and giggles.
Yup. I hereby declare myself an Idahoist. Who's with me?
P.S. Retired Geezer is one of those thieving spudders that you can smell a mile downwind.
P.P.S. Just to be consistent, I guess we should concede that male spudders have big schlongs, which at least partially explains why they act like animals.
UPDATE
An anonymous commenter makes an excellent suggestion. Henceforth, Idaho potatoes will be known as "liberty roots."
UPDATE 2
Some of you seem to be hesitating to join the anti-spudder hate campaign, apparently assuming it is totally evil. I would just like to point out that one of the goals here is to redirect prejudice against Canadians towards an equally undeserving target. We need to put the War of 1812 behind us.
UPDATE 3
People, people. Can we get back on track? Please?
The anti-spudder hate campaign is now seriously at risk of getting derailed by all this extraneous nonsense. Focus!
After the collapse of my guest bloggers union, I just don't think my fragile ego can take another failure.
Remember, if you can't be better than a spudder, who can you be better than?
UPDATE 4
Another frickin' lost cause. You people are hopeless. I give up.
UPDATE 5
I'm not kidding. I give up on you people. You don't deserve me.
Plus, today is my 34th wedding anniversary, so Mrs. Michael and I are going out.
Good-frickin'-bye! You are not going to have Michael to kick around any more.
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That just sounds Gay.
I much prefer Idahodians.
Bring it, city dwellers.
Posted by: Retired Geezer at October 07, 2006 08:37 AM (IjfHa)
Posted by: Andrew at October 07, 2006 08:41 AM (e9xdO)
Posted by: EricH at October 07, 2006 08:45 AM (zauWt)
Irrational? Check.
Basis for prejudice? Check.
Inspires intense anger? Check.
Fortunately, it's also part of Texan cultural heritage to kick ass. In fact, I think it may be time for another secession.
Posted by: Phinn at October 07, 2006 08:47 AM (TYNA0)
And ones we can't boycott, we should rename. For example, I will now be calling "potatoes" by the patriotic name of "liberty roots."
Posted by: at October 07, 2006 08:48 AM (YKKLz)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at October 07, 2006 08:52 AM (PcDvW)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 09:01 AM (c5sWc)
No what really twists my noodle is this whole 2 states with one name. Like this North Dakota, South Dakota thing. Why? There are like, what, 17 people in both states combined so they need to have 2? Just push the two together and call it Dakota. And if there must be 2 states, then flip a friggin coin and one of you gets to be Dakota and the other gets to be Bumfuck or Twizzledick or whatever but have a little imagination and come up with something original. How tough is it to come up with a name? Badlands my ass. Friggin lazybastardslands. Come up with damn name!
The Carolina Panthers? Which one? Oh you both want to claim them? Fine. Then you are one state. Carolina. You want to be your own state then COME UP WITH YOUR OWN NAME! North is not a name, its a goddamn direction. Look, Maine has a collective IQ of 6 and even they took the time to come up with a unique name. A dumb one I grant you, but a unique one.
As for West Virginia, if I need to see double wides and inbreeding I'll just go to Alabama. West Virginia is the only place where toothbrush is an apt description. You serve no purpose and you contribute nothing to the national experience. Please leave and surrender the land. We will use it as a toxic waste dump thereby making it more liveable than it is now.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 09:07 AM (rnOZq)
Back in Tennessee we used to call them Crimson Tideholes!
Bear Bryant was okay though....
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at October 07, 2006 09:11 AM (/tqRa)
Good riddance.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 09:16 AM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Warden at October 07, 2006 09:23 AM (rZ5uY)
Step the fuck off of North Carolina. That shit won't fly. I agree that South Carolina is full of a bunch of no account jagoffs. But make no mistake that North Carolina is the best goddamned state in the Union.
Remember too that Tennessee, Mizzou, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona and California were all claimed by the Brits to be parts of the Carolina colony. We were once bigger than Texas.
Posted by: Birkel at October 07, 2006 09:24 AM (bZPWO)
JackStraw, you seem to be eager to mush a lot of red states together. One less red state means two less GOP senators. Harry reid will approve.
I say we merge Mass, CT, Rhode Island and Vermont together, and call it Assachustan.
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 09:27 AM (h76y6)
Virginites suck.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 09:27 AM (c5sWc)
We appreciate you absorbing most of the hurricanes, tornadoes, and illegal aliens.
I don't know what else goes on out there and I don't care.
Posted by: lauraw at October 07, 2006 09:27 AM (DbybK)
(Actually, I visited out there and found the people quite congenial. Well, all except the people who live there. Fuckin' hated those folks.)
{Not really.}
Posted by: Birkel at October 07, 2006 09:28 AM (bZPWO)
You want the name Carolina? Fine. Invade South Carolina, take their women and castrate the men and call the place Eunuch Land for all I care. But one of you is no longer Carolina.
Thats just the way it is.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 09:31 AM (rnOZq)
Yeah, but you prematurely ejaculated and reverted back to the little weiners that you are now. NO ONE can be as big as Texas (except Alaska, but they don't count).
PS: I actually like NC, pretty state and nice people, but if you tell anyone I said that, I'll kill you.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 09:31 AM (gwfvN)
I live in the usually dreary Pacific Northwest and they are living in a subtropical climate and yet you would think they lived in the shittiest place on earth by the way they carry on.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 09:35 AM (c5sWc)
We apologize for our failure to keep the Portuguese out of Connecticut. They came from the wrong direction.
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 09:35 AM (LPlsm)
Your from New Jersey and you have the nerve to talk about any other state? Are you kidding me? New Jersey is a place to be from not a place to go to.
New Jersey is the asshole of America. If God wants to give America and enema, the tube goes in New Jersey.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 09:36 AM (rnOZq)
I am with MikeZ, II despise those Vemontaphile! They are always IMing pages and little children, they live way up there, and they had a governor that is a public screamer. If I ever saw a Volvo staionwagon with **SPIT**Vemont**SPIT** plates, I'd run them off the road and tell them to go home, because Texas doesn't need their kind. I even hate the name **SPIT**Vemont**SPIT**, it sounds so....gay (NTTAWWT).
I am having some anti-Vermont bumperstickers made up:
"Vehemently Against Vermont"
"Vermont Rhymes With Dog Crap"
"Vermont is Paradise....For Chomos and Screamers"
"Vermont's State Motto - Visit Your Proctologist Daily"
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 09:37 AM (gwfvN)
The Carolina Panthers are based in downtown Charlotte, North Carolina. Make no mistake. They're NCs professional football team. Fuck South Carolina. Fuck them in the ear.
Mr. Minority,
I agree that Alaska doesn't count. Now can we please access the oil that's up there?
Posted by: Birkel at October 07, 2006 09:38 AM (bZPWO)
Californians, especially southern Californians, are the bane of the Northwest.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 09:38 AM (c5sWc)
"Vehemently Against Vermont"
Lol. Gotta get me that bumper sticker.
What I hate about people from states like Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine is that I've notice that liberals from northern New England are, even by liberal standards, inordinately fond of calling conservatives racists when they live in one of the most whitebread areas of the country.
Burlington ain't Oakland, foks.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 09:42 AM (c5sWc)
And I am with JackStraw on this one : "...take their women and castrate the men and call the place Eunuch Land for all I care."
Which ever state we wage a jihad against, we need to go Vicking upon!
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 09:44 AM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 09:46 AM (gwfvN)
In every other state, I-95 is a highway. In CT it's a perpetual publics work project. How hard is it to fill in a pothole correctly the first time? Until you people can prove you can operate a road correctly, which basically means putting down some tar and getting the hell out of the way, I hereby propose we remove anything sharper than a tennis ball from Connecticut. You people are a public menace.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 09:47 AM (rnOZq)
Posted by: m at October 07, 2006 09:50 AM (tWuSX)
Discriminating based on national origin is wrong. It's against the law.
Discriminating based on state origin is perfectly legal.
Do not talk ill of the Canadians.
Posted by: Birkel at October 07, 2006 09:54 AM (bZPWO)
>>New Jersey is the asshole of America
Huh? I was told NJ is the Armpit of America. Sweaty, dirty and smelly.
If their is a queue of people who want to badmouth NJ, you will find me at the head of the line.
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 09:55 AM (h76y6)
Connecticut has nothing on Vermont. Hell look at what Vermont's state bird is: Hermit Thrush! A hidein the hills preverted bird!!!
And their state flower: Red Clover! That's not a flower, that is sheep fodder plus they are a flaming Blue State and have a red flower?
Even their name is nasty : Based on "verts monts," French for green mountains, Fwench!! Their Name is FWENCH!!!
No Connecticut, is just a typical moonbat state as where Vermont is a perverted Fwench state, and we can't let them stay in the Union.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 09:57 AM (gwfvN)
The best place to see NJ is in your rear view mirror.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 07, 2006 09:58 AM (WARV6)
Seriously, any country that considers curling a sport, there's no need to make fun of.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 09:58 AM (rnOZq)
The only purpose of the Illinois Dept. Of Transportation is to employ lazy IDOT workers.
All other concerns are secondary. The workers must be kept payed for creating massive traffic obstructions, destroying perfectly good roads, pretending to work for 3 hours and going home early.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 09:59 AM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Birkel at October 07, 2006 10:00 AM (bZPWO)
No, we must toss away Vermont as you would an used condom after drunken sex with a $2 crack whore!
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 10:03 AM (gwfvN)
Look, there are two uses for ice. You either use it to keep the beer cold or you play hockey on it. Curling is just shuffleboard for people with a cleaning fetish. It's a cry for help. Fooseball is more of a sport.
Now man up, put the broom down and go do something useful like invading those sodomites to your south.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 10:07 AM (rnOZq)
Posted by: lauraw at October 07, 2006 10:11 AM (DbybK)
Very nice Jackstraw. Very nice.
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at October 07, 2006 10:14 AM (/tqRa)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at October 07, 2006 10:16 AM (/tqRa)
Shhh! Don't tell anyone, but it is a long standing joke that we all let Rhode Island think it is a state. When in fact it is more like D.C., the red-headed stepchild of the nation, that we feed to be nice, but make them do their own laundry and scrub their own toilets.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 10:17 AM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 10:18 AM (Uh5fR)
>>How the hell did RI end up as it's own state..
It is where those Rich Mass Liberals keep their Mistresses.
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 10:20 AM (h76y6)
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 10:21 AM (LPlsm)
Connecticut had to take a crap, and nowhere to put it, thus you have Rhode Island.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 10:22 AM (gwfvN)
>>New York could be a pretty good state if they would just cut Buffalo loose and give it to Canada.
Please don't say that, Michael. I still want to visit Niagra falls without touching Canadian soil.
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 10:22 AM (h76y6)
Listen, missy. Size is just an excuse, a compensation for insecurity. Look at Texas for God's sake. It's always "Texas this" or "Texas that". Just like a needy child. Shut the hell up already. We let you be a state. If they would concentrate a little more on their own borders and stop looking for attention they might even get to stay a state instead of Tiajuana north.
As for CT...well what can you really say about CT? They suck less than some states? Ok, I'll give you that. But what exactly is CT? It's a pit stop. A no man's land between NY and New England. A place to fill up the tank and hit the men's room on the way to someplace, anyplace, else.
"Ok, kids. Hop in the car. We are on our way to a fun filled vacation in Connnnneccttcutttttt!"
That's something you will only hear on an episode of Twilight Zone.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 10:23 AM (rnOZq)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 10:26 AM (c5sWc)
New York sucks.
Yah, I said it. It needs to be said.
Get over yourself. You have the most obnoxious accent I've ever heard. Take the marbles out of your mouth, New Yorkers sound like Corky from Life Goes On.
One day New York will implode into a quantum singularity, due to the mass of it's own ego, and when that happens the national average IQ will raise by 5 points.
Also, in the NewYorkless future, stand up comics will actually be funny.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 10:27 AM (Uh5fR)
own borders and stop looking for attention they might even get to stay
a state instead of Tiajuana north.
Jack,
History and geography aren't your strong suite are they? You didn't let Texas become a state, we were our own country first, and the US begged us to become part of the US, which we agreed to do. And Jack, I have a clue for you... Tiajuana is on the California border, not Texas.
Jack, why do I get this feeling that you really are a closet curler and live in Vermont? Hmm, inquring minds want to know.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 10:28 AM (gwfvN)
Am I the only one here who is cursing his own state, instead of some other?
Oh well, when you are from NJ, you don't have much choice.
I hate Chile and Iceland though....
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 10:29 AM (h76y6)
Well, then I guess you've never heard the patented "New Joisey" accent.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 10:29 AM (c5sWc)
I hate to tell you this, but the Canadian side is already the good part. Niagara Falls, U.S.A. is a dump.
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 10:30 AM (LPlsm)
What is this, geography class? Get a map, Einstein.
Besides the term island is really a euphemism. We are an "island" of sanity, hygeine, intelligence, wit, charm, modesty and devastatingly good looks amongt the great unwashed masses of, well, you.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 10:32 AM (rnOZq)
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 10:33 AM (LPlsm)
"We are an "island" of sanity, hygeine, intelligence, wit, charm,
modesty and devastatingly good looks amongt the great unwashed masses
of, well, you"
was enough to make me take a good Rhode Island sized shit.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 10:35 AM (gwfvN)
Make a second cut 50 miles north of NYC and I'm with you.
The rest of the state is fine once you lose those two big cities. The smaller Albany moonbat enclave could be isolated and just eventually starved out or flattened with artillery.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 07, 2006 10:36 AM (WARV6)
I'll curse Texas or, at least, northern Texas. I was actually born there and had to endure a few of my high school years living back there.
Living most of my life in the Pacific Northwest, I can't get used to living in a place where there are no frickin' trees, everything is flat, and you can watch three or four tornados each year from your front porch.
Northern Texas has the worst of both worlds: it is godawfully hot during the summer because (a) it is Texas and (b) it gets all of the Gulf Coast humidity moving northward from Houston. It is cold and snowy during the winter because of the cold air sweeping south from Canada, down across the plains, into northern Texas. Plus northern Texas is exceptionally tornado prone. Kansas has nothing on northern Texas.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 10:37 AM (c5sWc)
Thanks for nothing, Corky. Now put a sock in this "don't mess with Texas" crap or hit the road.
"And Jack, I have a clue for you... Tiajuana is on the California border, not Texas."
Who cares? Texas, California, anything west of the Hudson River is a giant wasteland. You're all dead to me.
"Jack, why do I get this feeling that you really are a closet curler and live in Vermont? Hmm, inquring minds want to know."
Yea, you're all about closets aren't you? How about you come out of yours first.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 10:37 AM (rnOZq)
Here it comes....wait for it.
"I can't get used to living in a place where there are no frickin' trees"
What the hell is it with you people from "the Pacific Northwest" and trees? Yes, you have trees. Zippity Do friggin Da. We all have trees. Surely there is more to "the Pacific Northwest" than trees.
Wait. My bad. There isn't.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 10:42 AM (rnOZq)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 10:42 AM (c5sWc)
Wannabee living in a place that smells like brine and seagull shit, trying to grow a decent lawn on a fucking sand dune?
Welcome to Rhode Island
We are too a State, Are Too!!1!
Posted by: lauraw at October 07, 2006 10:44 AM (DbybK)
The fresh pine smell, of course.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 10:46 AM (c5sWc)
To smash those protected terns' nests. Just for the fucking Hell of it.
Posted by: lauraw at October 07, 2006 10:46 AM (DbybK)
Yea, you're all about closets aren't you? How about you come out of yours first.
I am sorry if I offended you, I forgot you Yankees have size envy. Probably due to having to live in rat and cockroach infested 1 roomed hovels you pay $1500/mth for and call "homes". As where we have closets that are about on average 800 sq/ft and we used to store our boots, pie plate sized belt buckles and Levis in.
Who cares? Texas, California, anything west of the Hudson River is a giant wasteland.
Sorry to disappoint you Hillary, but here in fly-over country we consider anything in the NorthEast as a toxic waste dump inhabited by mindless LIBERAL zombies.
I know why you are picking on Texas, because we don't curl at all down here, and that just sets you broom on fire.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 10:48 AM (gwfvN)
In "Mississippi Burning" gene hackmans character told a story about his father, and how one day, a black man who used to work for him, went off on his own, and gene hackmans father couldn't compete realisticly, because the black man was able to afford a donkey, or mule or horse or something like that.
Some time later, that donkey, horse, or mule was found dead, and gene hackmen describes the idea that he knew, KNEW! that it was his father, who killed that creature out of proffessional jealousy. Gene Hackmans Character then asks his father if it was his father, to which the father responds "if you can't be better than a nigger, who can you be better than?"
Never, ever ever in the world, will I subscirbe to the concept of fundamental unearned supremacy, and that line hit me hard because finaly I understood what it was that a lot of people around me were saying.
Collegiates have that attitude.
Whites in hick towns have that attitude.
Losers who hate fags have that attitude.
Men who think women should do all the cooking and cleaning have that attitude.
Women who think that they don't ever under any circumstances have to work have that attitude.
Muslims who refuse to assimilate, have that attitude.
Mexicans who imigrate to the US without learning english have that attitude.
Never, NEVER! will I have that attitude.
Just a moment of ideological fury.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 10:49 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: BrewFan at October 07, 2006 10:54 AM (P4zSX)
You know the state, whose highways are littered with dirty disposable diapers, which truly enhances the scenery.
And the smell.
And are prettier than it's women
And don't scream
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 10:54 AM (gwfvN)
The anti-spudder hate campaign is now seriously at risk of getting derailed by all this extraneous nonsense. Focus!
After the collapse of my guest bloggers union, I just don't think my fragile ego can take another failure.
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 10:55 AM (LPlsm)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 07, 2006 10:55 AM (Qn+cw)
Yea thats a great idea. You can use all those big saws you have for your TREES! You sure as hell aren't using them, might hurt a spotted owl or a spotted salamander. Have any of you figured out humans are at the top of the food chain?
"The state might actually be worth visiting."
Don't come. We already have enough google eyed morons from all over the country coming here and making life pure hell every summer. And then there are the Canadians with their banana hammocks. Jesus. Canadians.
"living in a place that smells like brine"
Yea, it's pure hell living at the beach! where I take my dog! and go for cocktails!! What is that smell I smell whenever I drive by, emphasis on by, Hartford? Oh yea. Desperation.
"trying to grow a decent lawn"
Don't tell me this is a great feat for you? Good God, I knew things had sunk low in CT but growing grass is somehow a major life accomplishment?
Goodness, look at the time. I have to check the lobster traps soon.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 10:56 AM (rnOZq)
Sorry, old Almost Live joke.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 07, 2006 10:57 AM (FuM7z)
Just a moment of ideological fury.
Damn Pinto, that was a worse downer than having your Mom walk in on you during a great Farrah Fawset fantacy jagging marathon.
Bummer
By the way, what state are you from Wicked?
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 10:58 AM (gwfvN)
What is it with Auburn fans that always talk about how they got screwed in 2004 and then they let arkansas, FRIGGIN ARKANSAS, come in their house, drink their beer and rape their women. Get over yourselves Auburn fans. You got your asses handed to you by a team who's war cry is "Go pig sooey".
You all suck so much ass that all the trees in georgia lean to the west. And the same goes for all you Tennessee fans too. I swear to God if I hear 'rocky top' one more time I am going to go postal. Fuck alabama and fuck tennessee. I'm going to bury those cockroaches.
Posted by: midaz at October 07, 2006 10:59 AM (dWDul)
Yankee doodle dandy;
Mind the musie and the step,
And with the girls be handy.
Posted by: lauraw at October 07, 2006 11:00 AM (DbybK)
Lauraw, that little state house thingy the RI has used to have a purpose. It was the clubhouse for Raymond Patriarcha.
There is one good thing common both to Ct and RI that no other state can claim. We did not ratify the 18th amendment to the constitution. Got to give them credit for that.
Posted by: Tom M at October 07, 2006 11:01 AM (TtaDz)
No. You genius have graduated to cow chip flinging. Are you guys to cheap buy a ball? Its cow shit its not a toy.
Actually, I think you guys are kinda cute riding around on your horseys and playing cowboy. You're kinda like western Amish.
I really hope you guys take advantage of some of the modern marvels we have been enjoying up here for, oh a little over a century now. Try indoor plumbing first. That way you won't have to dodge the scorpions and rattle snakes on your way to take a dump.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 11:04 AM (rnOZq)
As if eating frogs was not bad enough, they had to start sucking the shit impacted intestines out of crayfish. Those aren't even food. They're bait. Jesus Christ.
And I know a goddamn swamp seems like a logical place to take a dump, but not when you're actually living it, ok? Even dogs don't shit where they live. Your state stinks, literally.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 11:04 AM (Uh5fR)
Yankee doodle dandy;
Mind the musie and the step,
And with the girls be handy.
Viagra was invented for Yankees, because the wimp willied buggers have a difficult time getting it up for women. Hermit Thrushs, no problem, but women don't turn them on.
Down here in Texas, we sport Diamond Cutters! Especially for Big Haired women!!
And maybe a stray calf, if no one is watching.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:09 AM (gwfvN)
Last I checked it was the native loggers around here who were all for proceeding with logging. It was liberals, including Taxachusetts libs, who intervened at the federal level to prevent that from happening.
In your meager 1,200 sq. mile state, you guys somehow manage to have half as many endangered species listed as all of Washington state , a state about 40-50 times bigger than the Brine State.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:09 AM (c5sWc)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 07, 2006 11:09 AM (Qn+cw)
Posted by: Zzyzx at October 07, 2006 11:11 AM (0y1fF)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:12 AM (c5sWc)
As I said Jack, you aren't to good at History are you?
We have indoor plumbing, in fact all our sewer lines terminate in Rhode Island! Why mess up our own state when we can dump it all in a cesspool like Rhode Island.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:12 AM (gwfvN)
Again, its very cute. Like retard-talk. You just want to give them all a quarter and a pat on the head.
Posted by: lauraw at October 07, 2006 11:14 AM (DbybK)
Since when did Idaho become its own nation? You mean the Aryan Nations succeeded after all?
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:14 AM (c5sWc)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:15 AM (gwfvN)
Posted by: lauraw at October 07, 2006 11:16 AM (DbybK)
There you go again with the size thing. Still overcompensating.
Look, do the math, Skippy. We have more animals on the endangered species list in this small little piece of heaven than in your vast wasteland because even the animals would rather live here. Not prehistoric leftovers like scorpions and armadillos and alligators but evolved animals. Like the people.
But hey, you have TREES. And rain. Next thing you know you guys will get fire and then there's no holding you back.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 11:18 AM (rnOZq)
Posted by: TBinSTL at October 07, 2006 11:18 AM (bYmT0)
Posted by: lauraw at October 07, 2006 11:19 AM (DbybK)
Could be worse. I hear all Rhode Island has is birch beer and queers.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:21 AM (c5sWc)
Posted by: Jack M. at October 07, 2006 11:21 AM (Jb1EJ)
I don't think anyone east of Pennsylvania could pronounce a friggin "R" if thier life depended on it.
They ought to outlaw novoccaine if there's that many dental accidents. Can any of you people even feel your tongue? Annunciate you lazy, lazy bastard. You're probably the ones who came up with this "I luv u 2" IM spelling shit aren't you?
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 11:21 AM (Uh5fR)
I ask for some tolerance toward Delaware okay? One day Biden will be gone, but there's no sales tax and booze and cigarettes are cheap there.
Posted by: SJR at October 07, 2006 11:23 AM (dMSTC)
If you are drunken redneck that thinks a new car is a '72 Pinto with a primer paint job and donut spare tires on all 4 wheels. Or if you are hiding from the law due to owing 92 cents in back alimony payments to your ex-wife Jenny Sue Mary Ellen.
The only thing that keeps Oklahoma afloat financially is the taxes they charge on trailer homes coming into the state.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:23 AM (gwfvN)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 11:23 AM (rnOZq)
In "Mississippi Burning" . . .
Funny you should mention that, Wickedpinto. I actually was reminded of that story when I wrote the post, and thought about using the line you quoted (modified -- "If you can't be better than a spudder . . ."), but I could not for the life of me remember where it came from.
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 11:25 AM (LPlsm)
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 11:28 AM (LPlsm)
Oh, yes. Rhode Island, a state who's largest city has less people than frickin' Spokane, Washington.
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:30 AM (c5sWc)
Posted by: Garth Farkley at October 07, 2006 11:31 AM (aDtO5)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:32 AM (gwfvN)
Oh wait, I forgot it's an Idaho Slamfest.
Screw all you guys.
Posted by: Retired Geezer at October 07, 2006 11:34 AM (IjfHa)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 11:34 AM (Uh5fR)
It's lonely at the top. It's true. But none of you would know that so just take my word for it.
"I ask for some tolerance toward Delaware okay?"
It's still a state, right? How much more tolerance do you expect? Sooner or later you gotta do something or you can join Puerto Rico.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 11:34 AM (rnOZq)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:36 AM (c5sWc)
Posted by: kevlarchick at October 07, 2006 11:36 AM (otuOL)
Like what, create a small commune for a million aging hippies and then demand you be allowed to send 2 moonbat senators to washington for it?
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 11:37 AM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:38 AM (c5sWc)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:40 AM (c5sWc)
No.
That's the point. They're still bigger then the whole damn state of RI.
And there hasn't been a job there since 1973.
The greatest moment in the history of Detroit was being mentioned in a song by a suckass poprock/early hair metal band.
And they're still bigger then the whole damn state of RI.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 11:41 AM (Uh5fR)
smallest state. longest name.
oh goddammit those stupid Sooners scored a TD.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 07, 2006 11:41 AM (Qn+cw)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:42 AM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 11:44 AM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:45 AM (c5sWc)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:46 AM (c5sWc)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 07, 2006 11:47 AM (Qn+cw)
That sounds about right. I'll second that motion.
By the way the definition of Chode is:
1) the skin between your balls and your asshole
2) a stupid person who does stupid things
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:47 AM (gwfvN)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 11:50 AM (c5sWc)
But I don't live in big D anymore
I hope you don't live in Houston or Abilene or Midland/Odessa or Lubbock or Amarillo.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:52 AM (gwfvN)
Oh wait. I missed this part. I saw Delaware and my eyes just glazed over. Cheap booze and cigarettes you say? How 'bout if we make you an Indian Reservation? Would you like that, Pochahantas? Then you could play cowboys and indians with the ruff riders from Texas.
Delaware. Sweet Jesus. Who left the door open/
Posted by: JackStraw at October 07, 2006 11:54 AM (rnOZq)
I say we all vote and change it to: Tern Pooter.
That seems more appropriate
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:54 AM (gwfvN)
They wouldn't have a chance, everyone knows that Cowboys always wins in the movies. Plus, we would just end up castrating their men and raping their women, all in an 1/2 hours work.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 11:57 AM (gwfvN)
So the official name will for now on be: Chode Island and the Tern Pooter Plantations?
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 11:58 AM (Uh5fR)
So the official name will for now on be: Chode Island and the Tern Pooter Plantations?
Thus it will be written in the Book of Man Laws
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:00 PM (gwfvN)
I was Born and raised, and currently reside (at my eternal suffering) in a place that realy doesn't belong to a state, but rather the metropolitian environment of Chicago.
I'm a Hoosier, those are my basic understandings, I was taught to strive for joining the silver urbanity of chicago, but I touched it in my youth, and I also touched the simple rural life of indiana, and I couldn't find anyway to identify with either.
I'm from Indiana the state, I have experienced Chicago the metropolis, but it took the Marines to show me the world to realize that both were too small and weak and arrogant for me to really be a part of.
Understand Mr. Minority?
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 12:07 PM (QTv8u)
Entropy! *smack*
Don't you dare talk about Gene Simmons and the boys like that.
Posted by: kevlarchick at October 07, 2006 12:08 PM (otuOL)
There are more than people, there are the soon to be champions of the World Series.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 12:08 PM (QTv8u)
That is all you know, and all you need to know.
I'm from Utah. I know.
Posted by: dicentra at October 07, 2006 12:09 PM (AIGFR)
Posted by: SJR at October 07, 2006 12:12 PM (dMSTC)
too small and weak and arrogant for me to really be a part of.
Why actually I do understand. My 4 years in the service took me to many different states and locals, and was a good experience in understanding people of different cultures.
But with that said and done, I still don't like Vermont.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:13 PM (gwfvN)
That was Montana, ya cheap vodka swilling Blue Hen Chicken.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:16 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: SJR at October 07, 2006 12:18 PM (dMSTC)
But with that said and done, I still don't like Vermont.
Indeed, thank god I was sent out of country.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 12:21 PM (QTv8u)
All that cute talk about Louisiana when I'm not around - I'll have you know that Louisiana's state flower is the satellite dish. So there!
And as for Illinois? Well, it's so boring that the most interesting thing about it is that it's just a state or two over from the second most boring state - Ohio, a state so dull and and flat and lifeless that its only claim to fame is that its rivers catch on fire every now and then.
Posted by: max at October 07, 2006 12:22 PM (SO3B1)
Ya, and I hear that the sheep stand still for drunken Blue Hen Chickens from Delaware, because they can't feel it when you guys insert your wee little penis in.
Plus, we aren't into sheep down here, not when we have big massive long horns.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:22 PM (gwfvN)
I say this all the time, and people don't realize that it is true, cuz they think it is me speaking outside my station (I'm a bit of a bum)
I say this "I lived a life in 4 years, that most 50 year olds envy. When most of you retire? you will do a half assed job of recreating the things I did before I was 23."
KnowwhatImean?
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 12:25 PM (QTv8u)
Indeed, thank god I was sent out of country.
The military taught me many things, but one of the best lessons learned is how to deal with, appreciate and work with people of different cultures.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:25 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: SJR at October 07, 2006 12:25 PM (dMSTC)
you retire? you will do a half assed job of recreating the things I did
before I was 23."
I wouldn't trade many of my life experiences for all the spuds in Idaho.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:28 PM (gwfvN)
I notice you skipp Indiana.
When I would do my teenage pioneering (driving until I ran out of gas money) I always did it in either indiana, michigan, or VERY low illinois.
Thank you for skipping over indiana, theres a lot of interesting shit in indiana, not FASCINATING, but the covered bridges, you have to drive at 10 miles an hour to cross, the semi-frontier memory that seems to exist all throughout my home state, though, I just don't get it.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 12:28 PM (QTv8u)
That's because it's just too damn big, as I said that is why we have big friggin' long horn cattle. It's the only animal that could handle a Texas, other than an elephant.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:31 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: max at October 07, 2006 12:31 PM (SO3B1)
That should be ".. could handle a Texan, other than an elephant."
And that is why elephants are in zoos, to keep them away from us Texans.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:34 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: SJR at October 07, 2006 12:35 PM (dMSTC)
Chicago:
the Windy City, Da Bears, Da Bulls, White Sox, suck-ass Cubs, Blackhawks, Sears Tower, Deep Dish Pizza, Al Capone, Navy Pier, McDonalds HQ, Soldier Field, Shedd Aquarium, the Museum of Science and Industry, Field Museum, the water tower which was the only surviving building of the Great Chicago Fire of 1871, the Chicago River which is died green every year for Saint Patty's day, Maxwell Street Polish Sausages and Chicago-style hot dogs, Al Capone and other mobsters whose legacy lives on in public unions and crooked politicians, police who crack hippies heads and haven't managed to catch one cop killer alive yet, The. Greatest. Democratic. National. Convention. Evah. O'Hare Airport.
I'll stop there so you don't get too jealous.
Also in Illinois:
The Mississippi River.
The entire state of Indiana wishing they were us.
The home state of the first Republican president and emancipator of slaves Abraham Lincoln.
Beachfront property on the 2nd largest fresh water lake in the entire planet, Lake Michigan.
Corn.
Oil.
Things named after dead injuns.
Other stuff I don't care about because I live Chicago anyway.
All you transport and supply lines are belong to us.
We are the middle of the damn country. Part of the heartland. The linchpin. Without us, the whole thing falls apart.
Also? All those tornados? They come from us. We basically are the wind corridor that allows all that cold Canuck air down into Kansas.
And although you don't know it, we've learned how to control it. Everytime we open the office windows on the skyscrapers that line Lakeshore Drive, 6-12 hours later another trailerpark is wiped off the face of the earth forever.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 12:43 PM (Uh5fR)
There's more then corn in Indiana.
Threre's Indiana Beach amusement park.
Other then that? Nope that's it. Corn.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 12:44 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:46 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Perpetual Student at October 07, 2006 12:47 PM (WXJvH)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 12:50 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 12:52 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 12:57 PM (Uh5fR)
Chode Island sucks.
And IL kicks LA ass.
No problem here. The only reason we like LA is that they do have good food.
As for Chode Island, That's not a state, THIS is a State
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 12:59 PM (gwfvN)
However, I admit that Atropy (Rep-IL) and Wicked Lint (Rep-IN) provide a little light humor every now and then, so that makes Ohio the Most Boring of the Boring.
Notice how no one has brought up Massachusetts. All I can say is Thanks. Some topics are best left ignored.
Posted by: max at October 07, 2006 12:59 PM (SO3B1)
the Majority of the "chicago Fire" affected Indiana's industry, which, at the time, was Chicago's industry, the "Chicago Rail Yards" existed almost exclusively in Indiana, thanks to the creation of Hammonds "refrigerated car" which was supplied by the indiana marshlands, The "Chicago Slaughter houses" existed in Indiana thanks to the fact that Hammond invented the refrigerated car. The "Crossroads of America" BOTH of which reside in Indiana, and at about the area of the asshole Hammonds centralized refrigerated car production, and maintenance.
Noone famous designed a fucking thing in Chicago, until the worlds fair of 1891 (I think) and most of them were from out of state, neither Illinois, or Indiana, or Wisconsin.
The most valuable property, for instance, the land on which the hancock building resides? is landfill, leftovers of a canadian captain who crashed his boat and used his "property" as a landfill. Chicago, the service district, has NOTHING to do with the history of chicago, other than the false location of Mrs. O'leary's cow, which I THINK is located at one of the smaller museums.
After all of my Chicago neighbor hatred, I have to say, there's a LOT OF GOOD SHIT in the city, and Easily accesable, and very well offered.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 01:07 PM (QTv8u)
Next you'll say Chicagoans kidnap hoosier babies and harvest thier organs and drink thier blood on St. Patty's day.
Boy, the corn has gone to your head.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 01:21 PM (Uh5fR)
Notice how no one has brought up Massachusetts
That's because everyone knows that Massachusetts' stare motto is:
"I'll get that juice boxes for you!"
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 01:22 PM (gwfvN)
But the stockyards were on the Chicago River, which hasn't moved. It's in Chicago, not Indiana.
And the World's Fair was in
See what I mean about Hoosiers wanting to be Illini? They're trying to take credit for Chicago.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 01:25 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: BrewFan at October 07, 2006 01:26 PM (P4zSX)
Actually they were on the CALUMET! river, which is the border of Hammond, and East Chicago.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 01:28 PM (QTv8u)
UPDATE 4
Another frickin' lost cause. You people are hopeless. I give up.
Why, because we don't believe in unions or hate spudders?
Michael, admit it, Vermont and Chode Island are better states to hate than Idaho.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 01:28 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 01:28 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 01:29 PM (QTv8u)
She hates it, and I find it hillarious.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 07, 2006 01:32 PM (QTv8u)
This is what happens when someone tries to provide a little leadership for the morons around here. I've had it.
Screw all of you. In the squeakhole.
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 01:33 PM (LPlsm)
Why such anger? You happen to pick the wrong state to hate, BUT, you did start a vey amusing thread. Feel proud of what you started, hold your head high.
Unless you are from Vermont or Chode Island.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 01:36 PM (gwfvN)
Fuck you too, Max. I live in Ohio.
Damn you people piss me off.
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 01:37 PM (LPlsm)
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 01:40 PM (LPlsm)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 01:42 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Reg at October 07, 2006 01:44 PM (56ssE)
401 North Michigan Avenue Chicago
1865 Chicago Union Stock Yard Completed, between Halsted and Ashland, which is Chicago
Neither of those are in IN.
Big corn field, 1400 - present day : Indiana.
They reversed the flow of the Chicago river to get rid of all the crap they were dumping in it and pawn it off on...oh...shit.
LA.
I'm sorry Max. That shit smell I smell when I go to your state...that wasn't you crapping where you live.
That me was me crapping where you live.
C'est la vie, eh?
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 01:47 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at October 07, 2006 01:50 PM (/tqRa)
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 01:52 PM (LPlsm)
Posted by: MikeZ at October 07, 2006 01:54 PM (c5sWc)
But Vermont is where she goes to get her free vaginal examination and complementary douche.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 01:55 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 01:56 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 01:58 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 01:58 PM (9ULFg)
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 02:01 PM (LPlsm)
for providing them with a toilet and penal colony across the river.
You cannot spell penal colony without penal and colon.
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 02:05 PM (9ULFg)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 02:07 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 02:09 PM (9ULFg)
Effing awesome.
Say what you will about Ohio,
That's it.
Say what you will.
Posted by: lauraw at October 07, 2006 02:09 PM (DbybK)
East St. Louis *shudder*.
No one lives in that city any more. It's worse then Detroit. Some day it will be a ghost town.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 02:10 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 02:11 PM (gwfvN)
Wait a minute. I thought Tushar was some ass-humping liberal. How can he be funny?
Is somebody pretending to be Tushar?
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 02:13 PM (LPlsm)
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 02:15 PM (9ULFg)
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 02:16 PM (9ULFg)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 02:18 PM (gwfvN)
It's hard at first, you've got nothing to go by with the middle states. Easy to put them 400 miles.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 02:21 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 02:23 PM (gwfvN)
There's nothing to go on.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 02:24 PM (Uh5fR)
Micheal is just sore that no one hates Idaho and he is from OhiO where people are always slipping wet willies in the Os.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 02:25 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 02:27 PM (LPlsm)
There's nothing to go on.
Entropy,
See Texas, just imagine panhandle of Texas and place Oklahoma right there.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 02:28 PM (gwfvN)
That sounds like something Rho would say.
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 02:30 PM (gwfvN)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 02:40 PM (Uh5fR)
But all 4 times I got Oklahoma before I got to place Texas or Nebraska, and usually before I have Colorado or Missouri either. Fuggin sneaky bastards, those Oklahomos.
It also doesn't help that I put Vermont north of Saskatoon, Canada.
Wishful thinking..
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 02:45 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: PT Boise at October 07, 2006 02:50 PM (rjH0g)
Posted by: Michael at October 07, 2006 02:52 PM (LPlsm)
It also doesn't help that I put Vermont north of Saskatoon, Canada.
Hell, for all I care, you can put Vermont in Fwance.
And yeah, I think they are being really snotty by giving you the Middle America states first. Bastards! I bet they are from Vermont or Chode Island!
Posted by: Mr Minority at October 07, 2006 02:53 PM (gwfvN)
Ditto for Alabama, it has that little ballsack hanging off the corner that lines up with the coastline.
The perimter states are pie. It's the Oklahomos and Kentuckys that get you.
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 02:57 PM (Uh5fR)
Another frickin' lost cause. You people are hopeless. I give up.
mike, tubino, ryan, nickthestripper, alesandra, egatiswhatisname, larry, monkyboy, deb frisch...
All spudders.
Posted by: Pupster at October 07, 2006 03:00 PM (9h6vV)
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 03:15 PM (9ULFg)
Fuck you too, Max. I live in Ohio - michael
I rest my case.
Posted by: max at October 07, 2006 03:34 PM (RDMyF)
Posted by: Birkel at October 07, 2006 03:39 PM (bZPWO)
Posted by: Entropy at October 07, 2006 03:46 PM (Uh5fR)
Posted by: Birkel at October 07, 2006 03:51 PM (bZPWO)
NOTE: In the fourth grade I had a wooden map that I brought to class. We'd turn the pieces upsidedown and race to see who could place them most quickly.
Save this for the next flame war. I'm sure it'll be useful. Bastages.
Posted by: Birkel at October 07, 2006 03:53 PM (bZPWO)
Posted by: Nice Deb at October 07, 2006 04:22 PM (9ftXk)
Posted by: Tushar D at October 07, 2006 04:33 PM (9ULFg)
It's not very often that you set a multi-post trap for someone and them have them jump in it with both feet.
I hope he doesn't set a river on fire or something.
Brewfan, you owe me props.
PS Cool that he won't be able to reply for 4 hours or more.
PPS Happy anniversary to Mr and Mrs Michael
Posted by: max at October 07, 2006 05:06 PM (RDMyF)
There are more than people, there are the soon to be champions of the World Series.
Posted by: Wickedpinto on October 7, 2006 05:08 PM
From your lips to God's ear, WP. Been way too long since "The Roar of '84" (which turned into "The Dive of '85").
Go, Tigers!
Posted by: iamfelix at October 07, 2006 10:58 PM (3M6iX)
Entropy,
I didn't mean to make my home town into chicago, For some reason most of the time I make a point of saying "I think" or "If I remember" to make sure that noone thinks that what I am saying is definative, rather I meant that there was a shared legacy between my hometown (which existed ONLY to produce refridgerated cars to local and chicago based yards.
As for the rail yards, there are specifics that might have been larger in chicago, but until 1993, my hometown had the most per capita miles of railroad of any city in all of the world.
Also, Hammond, and East Chicago, and Whiting, weren't always those cities, I forget the year of our charter, this town sucks ass. but prior to the break up of old man Hammonds iron grip on the area, he tried to hold the local communities, some of which extend into what is now called Chicago it was "State Line" and old man hammond fought his ass off to keep them unincorporated, of course he was beaten by 2 small townships, one of which ran by another rotten prick! Hesse a fundamentalist lunatic christian douchebag.
anyways, you are right in everything you said, and everything I said was accuratish, not precise in the context of the discussion entropy.
I fucked up, and was just reading and responding to the things I remembered.
Sorry.
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