March 30, 2007
— Ace Elliot Stein is a great fat lunatic who got into an internet feud with Cathy Seipp and her daughter. That in itself is understandable -- people feud on the internet -- but what turned him into a new internet verb ("to stein," meaning "to behave in such a way that Deborah Frisch says, 'Oh, that's just over the line'") was his choice to continue the feud by spoofing Cathy Seipp's final hours before death.
Just hours before her death, "Cathy Seipp" suddenly seemed to undo decades of hard work with an oddly written letter posted on the Web site, www. cathyseipp.com. In what came off as more bizarre rant than heartfelt apology, her supposed "very last blog entry" called her years of journalism a "shoddy," "despicable" and "irresponsible" career as a "fourth-rate hack." Her political stance? All a mistake...Friends were horrified. They quickly realized that the letter was the work of an infamous character known as "Troll Dolls" who'd positioned himself as the blogger's archenemy and bought the domain name www.cathyseipp.com years earlier (Seipp's real Web site is www.cathyseipp.net). Troll Dolls is really Eliot Stein, a 54-year-old former online talk-show host and stand-up comedian who had taught Maia in a journalism class for a brief period in 2004, and who blamed Maia and Seipp for his departure from the school after only five weeks...
"He's a genuinely weird dude [who wrote] a rambling, odd, mean, totally cruel series of posts... designed to trick well-wishers, as Cathy lay dying, into reading a torrent of rage and bitterness against her," Rob Long, an L.A. television writer and longtime friend of Seipp's, wrote in an e-mail. "Just immensely cruel. It was easy to ignore when she was alive, but as she died it became intolerable - thousands and thousands of people wanted to reach out to Cathy and her family in the days surrounding her death, and this guy tricked, perverted and deeply hurt them. And for what? A years-old grudge?"
He says:
Ive got an incredible sense of humor, Stein said. Im an expert at Photoshop.
The first is obvious. The second is debatable.

Were he an expert at Photoshop, he might have added something big in the background to create the illusion of slenderizing him. Like, I don't know, the Duchy of Luxembourg.
Well now comes the inevitable, quite necessary Elliot Smith parody blog.
I've been feeling pretty low today, so I did something to cheer myself up. I heard the ice cream man coming up the street, and it's like 90 degrees today, so I thought, "what an opportunity!"
I put on my underwear, grabbed $400 in cash, and went outside. There were at least twenty kids gathering on the hot sidewalk, eagerly waiting to cool off with some refreshing ice cream treats. So, when the truck pulled up, I pushed my way to the front of the line and bought every single item the guy had, then paid the guy two hundred-fifty dollars if he'd promise to not sell ice cream to any of the kids in my neighborhood from now on; only to me. Then I slapped the two nearest kids in the face and told them all to get fucked, and then went inside and took a nap. I feel better now.
Now that's the work of an incredible sense of humor.
Amy Alkon may or may not have something to do with this.
Thanks to PaulM.
BTW, CathySeipp.com was apparently pulled down by Smith's internet service provider on cybersquatting grounds. I'm almost certain I read this on Patterico, but I can't seem to find the post even after looking three times.
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Someone needs to photoshop his picture to include a monkey and a street organ. Either that make him into Chef Boy Ardee.
Posted by: roc ingersol at March 30, 2007 09:23 AM (m2CN7)
Wow, got the world by the tail there, eh? Was the cut-throat, go-go workaholic life of the lemonade stand too much for him?
Posted by: Tom at March 30, 2007 09:23 AM (43ahd)
When I get home, I may have to play a bit with photoshop.
I'm sure Mr. Stein will look quite nice as the ass-end of a baboon.
Or something.
Posted by: Slublog at March 30, 2007 09:25 AM (R8+nJ)
Posted by: S. Weasel at March 30, 2007 09:25 AM (rasT+)
Were he an expert at Photoshop, he might have added something big in the background to create the illusion of slenderizing him. Like, I don't know, the Duchy of Luxembourg.
Now that's funny. Good work. I saw that coming a mile away and I still laughed out loud, because you offset the obvious premise by pulling something totally out of left field. Duchy of Luxembourg....classic.
Posted by: Entropy at March 30, 2007 09:27 AM (m6c4H)
Posted by: Sinistar at March 30, 2007 09:31 AM (bSYRF)
Posted by: Red at March 30, 2007 09:31 AM (aye0J)
in the url. You'll get another site with a picture of him popping out
of goatse, which IS EXTREMELY NSFW, and may make you hurl.
Oh, dear heavens.
The goatse is vile.
But yeah, it would work for him.
Posted by: Slublog at March 30, 2007 09:32 AM (R8+nJ)
Posted by: Bart at March 30, 2007 09:38 AM (61SUF)
Looks like somebody is just asking for ass cancer...
When I get home, I may have to play a bit with poetic-justiceshop.
Posted by: God at March 30, 2007 09:49 AM (OEbrS)
eliot stein said...
look icarus, i can't comment on the evil thing I did due to legal
reasons; but rest assured I'm more of a fat evil prick that you can
even imagine. I'm literally naked and sitting in my own feces as I'm
typing this.
Posted by: Nice Deb at March 30, 2007 09:50 AM (CX6/b)
Posted by: Sinistar at March 30, 2007 10:05 AM (bSYRF)
Huh. I had not heard of Amy Alkon before you dropped that link.
So now I'm wondering, is she just a really mannish woman, or a really unconvincing drag queen?
I'm compelled to ask.
Posted by: Rocketeer at March 30, 2007 10:21 AM (GFaLW)
Are you sure you guys want to get into a fight with this guy... Read his profile by Luke Ford (who, claims to be a friend of Cathy yet defends Stein):
http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/eliot_stein.htm
This guy was on the ground floor of Compuserve and AOL! (I'm guessing he hides his millions based on his involvement with these companies)... The guy is an "Internet Pioneer"! This guy is VERY powerful and a chick magnet... y'all don't know who your messing with.
Posted by: JFH at March 30, 2007 10:21 AM (c+Pwv)
Posted by: Silk at March 30, 2007 10:23 AM (s+0z8)
The first is obvious. The second is debatable.
Once again, a spot-on photographic Fisking. You need to trademark that move.
Posted by: Alex at March 30, 2007 10:38 AM (fgyj8)
Until his blog is read on the Senate floor, he ain't shit.
Posted by: Ellison's Keyboard at March 30, 2007 12:06 PM (ATbKm)
Was too tired to comment, even on the Maddie Albright thread (she and Janet and Helen and...great, now I have to find mental bleach to clean my mind's eye) but anyone who says about himself that he has a great sense of humor...doesn't.
Posted by: ushie at March 31, 2007 08:24 AM (ScVon)
Is it just me, or does he kinda look like William Forsythe? I'm thinking the pudgier version, with Seagal in Out for Justice.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001235/
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