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March 30, 2008

Cool Sniper Shot
— Ace

So cool.

Jen.

Posted by: Ace at 12:31 PM | Comments (77)
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1 Hot Damn! That was one good shot.

Posted by: rabidfox at March 30, 2008 12:37 PM (F0B1I)

Excellent!

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 12:40 PM (E5mM5)

3 I'm a hella good shot and not at all sure I could hit that at, say, 100m when the chips are down.

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 12:44 PM (E5mM5)

4 Good shooting. The sad thing is that the public still often thinks that the average cop is capable of shooting a gun out of someone's hand, or "winging" a suspect, when in fact the average cop who doesn't train shooting much, is overweight, and pumped up from adrenalin in a crisis situation, is lucky to be able to hit center mass reliably.

Posted by: Robert at March 30, 2008 12:44 PM (hcsKC)

5 Shame that technique can't be used against aggressive thug leaders, worldwide. Just think of all the aggravation that a single, tiny round that removed, say, Saddam, would've saved.

Or, Bin Laden. Thanks again, Bill Clinton.

Posted by: serr8d at March 30, 2008 12:46 PM (ETtE0)

6 Meh,

I've faced better shots than that guy.

This one time in Tuzla......

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 30, 2008 12:47 PM (hlYel)

TINS,

Buddy of mine are at an outdoor range outside Colorado Springs. I'm popping a coke can at about a 100 yards with my trusty M-1. I'm feeling pretty good about my shooting. Slow fire, a round every 3-5 seconds. All of a sudden, my coke can starts hopping around like crazy, like it was on crack. I look over, there's two assholes popping away at it. With .22 pistols. Turns out these jokers were from the Olympic team out having a little fun. Fuckers.

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 12:48 PM (E5mM5)

8 Robert, even more so, few cops have the luxury of laying down on the ground with a rifle scope and waiting for their heartbeats to slow down while holding their breath and taking a shot in between heart beats.

Posted by: jmchez at March 30, 2008 12:48 PM (TIZvA)

Mike Plum you stud. Even the man after being handcuffed commented on what a great shot that was.

Posted by: Nurse Cheri at March 30, 2008 12:49 PM (cz6lG)

10 I think the black square over his arm was covering a tattoo. Any speculation as to what the tattoo was?

Posted by: Alice H at March 30, 2008 12:50 PM (jRtPb)

I think the black square over his arm was covering a tattoo. Any speculation as to what the tattoo was?

The cool confidence, the haircut, the skill - under the black square probably a baby seal.

Posted by: Murph at March 30, 2008 12:59 PM (1ersZ)

12 Talk about OLD! I remember seeing that back about 15 years ago or so.

Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at March 30, 2008 01:01 PM (kNqJV)

Finally a SWAT team that actually pays off.

Excellent shot.

Posted by: Esteban at March 30, 2008 01:02 PM (X7Ey1)

11 I think the black square over his arm was covering a tattoo. Any speculation as to what the tattoo was?

A unicorn.

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 01:03 PM (E5mM5)

15 Pink or lavender, brad?

Posted by: Alice H at March 30, 2008 01:14 PM (jRtPb)

16 Chartruese. Duh.

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 01:19 PM (E5mM5)

17 Police should only shoot to kill. It was a nifty shot, but it was wrong. If he was dangerous to the public he should have been shot in an attempt to kill him before he hurt somebody else. If he wasn't dangerous they should have left him in the street and gone home. This is a good example of how a bad decision can make people feel good (by saving his life) even when it is unethical.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at March 30, 2008 01:29 PM (TPRbZ)

Potosi,

I'd say this is more the exception that proves the rule. Officer pulls a guy over and gets into a gunfight-shoot to kill. Works for me.

Here was a situation that had the opportunity to lead to violence to innocents or law enforcement. It was a fairly controlled situation, however. You'll notice that there was a second sniper covering the target. If things went to shit, he could take out the target.

Absolute solutions to human endeavors usually don't work.

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 01:36 PM (E5mM5)

11 I think the black square over his arm was covering a tattoo. Any speculation as to what the tattoo was?

Obama '08?

Posted by: JavaJoe at March 30, 2008 01:44 PM (Am6n/)

20 Bastards. Poor man wanted to go, but noooooooooooo. Ever occur to you guys he was trying to get away from his girlfriend?

Posted by: pajama momma at March 30, 2008 01:50 PM (f3xJa)

21 You'll notice that there was a second sniper covering the target. If things went to shit, he could take out the target.

My first reaction was the same thing, go for an incapacitating shot, not shooting the gun away. Then I noticed the second guy and realized that it was covered. Considering that it was a controlled site, I can understand why that choice was made. There's a universe of difference between that situation and something happening quickly where the best option is to go for a center mass hit.

Posted by: alexthechick at March 30, 2008 01:50 PM (jWNHD)

22 Ex boyfriend of yours, PJ?

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 01:53 PM (E5mM5)

Hostage? Kill (or more law friendly-center of mass)

Risk of flight? Kill

Officer safety? Kill

Risk to public? Kill

As I said, this is the exception that proves the rule. Normally the shoot to kill issue (really, the use of deadly force) comes from litigation about shootings. Given the difficulty in just hitting a target in a gunfight, you aim center of mass for practicality's sake. Once the decision to shoot has been made, by definition the decision to use deadly force has been made.

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 01:57 PM (E5mM5)

24 You'll notice that there was a second sniper covering the target. If things went to shit, he could take out the target. I did not notice that. That makes a lot of difference. I don't really want hobos like that gunned down for no reason.

Posted by: Potosi Joel at March 30, 2008 01:57 PM (TPRbZ)

Ex boyfriend of yours, PJ?

*cough

whatever do you mean?

Posted by: pajama momma at March 30, 2008 01:58 PM (f3xJa)

26 I don't really want hobos like that gunned down for no reason.

I think you just lost your moron cred, Joel...

Posted by: Alice H at March 30, 2008 02:00 PM (jRtPb)

27 And do I even want to know what a doorbj is? that's one of the links in the garbage up above. Makes me think of the guy that was recently caught doing the nasty with his picnic table.

Posted by: Alice H at March 30, 2008 02:02 PM (jRtPb)

That makes a lot of difference. I don't really want hobos like that gunned down for no reason

Yeah, he was a youngin'. Gotta let 'em grow full size. Didn't even have a beard or the fingerless gloves yet.

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 02:03 PM (E5mM5)

29 I'm pretty sure that the black square was centered over the guy's chest because it displayed some obscenity you couldn't show on TV, and they didn't have the computer control necessary to pixellate just his shirt, just a rectangular block centered over the shirt.

Even T-shirts reading something as unoffensive as "Shit Happens" would get this treatment.

Posted by: Drumwaster at March 30, 2008 02:05 PM (e9zFE)

Even T-shirts reading something as unoffensive as "Shit Happens" would get this treatment.

CENSORSHIP!!!!!!!!1 I blame Cheney!!!!!

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 02:14 PM (E5mM5)

31 "Video no longer available." What was going on?

Posted by: Arthur at March 30, 2008 02:16 PM (EVNav)

32 I grew up 800 yards from where that happened. Lived about 3 miles away at the time and was home after work watching CNN when I realized what had occurred and where. Drive by that intersection all the time.

Posted by: Jack Burton at March 30, 2008 02:26 PM (hh4y/)

33 But, Jack, could you have made the shot from 800 yards?

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 02:30 PM (E5mM5)

34 Down and to the right, down and to the right, down and to the right. I heard three shots. .....And why were the cops on a grassy knoll? What's with the second gunman? Is this SOP for an assassination?

Posted by: hutch1200 at March 30, 2008 02:33 PM (j6HCf)

35 18 Police should only shoot to kill.
"It was a nifty shot, but it was wrong. If he was dangerous to the public he should have been shot in an attempt to kill him before he hurt somebody else. If he wasn't dangerous they should have left him in the street and gone home. This is a good example of how a bad decision can make people feel good (by saving his life) even when it is unethical." Yeah, great plan. That really would have endeared the police to the community and generated a lot of great press. I can see the press conference now: Police spokesman: Yeah, we could have easily shot the gun out of his hand, but we decided to kill the guy instead; he was a danger and all that due process bullshit is overrated anyway. A lot less paperwork too. If they were just gonna kill the guy, they sure as hell didn't need a sniper to do it. All the guys standing around him could have just unloaded. Putting a bullet through the head of a nutcase who was only threatening himself is a fucking retarded idea, period.

Posted by: Bob at March 30, 2008 02:34 PM (RnF5u)

36 I don't think 800 yards was in the cards. Maybe 30 yards with a sniper rifle.

Posted by: Jack Burton at March 30, 2008 02:36 PM (hh4y/)

37 The black square was probably covering a product name or brand name on his shirt. I can't remember the last time I saw a reality-type show or a show like this one where the producers didn't blur out the brand logoes or names on shirts, hats etc.

Posted by: Hein at March 30, 2008 02:37 PM (RnF5u)

38 Bob,
They had a similar situation in Sarasota a few years back. The guy is there with a gun, that is reason, but they had been talking to him for a hour or so, so he wasnot going anywhere, and SWAT just dropped him.
I do not speed in Sarasota now, you never know what they are going to do to you there.

Posted by: Vmaximus at March 30, 2008 03:00 PM (Aw4ZA)

39 Remind me not to live the AoSHQ Lifestyle^TMin Sarasota.

Posted by: XBradTC at March 30, 2008 03:26 PM (E5mM5)

40 Jack Burton

Who?

Posted by: Thunder at March 31, 2008 01:21 AM (xDwoq)

41 I also remember when this happened...

The decision to fire was not made lightly, several key factors were right for the shoot...someone already mentioned the back-up shooter, also there was a clear field of fire and no bystanders downrange.

I'm not sure what kind of ammo they used but I would have been worried about fragmentation of the round or the targeted pistol. Seems like the energy got soaked up just fine though.

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