September 01, 2008
— Ace We're all thinking the same thing.
Let's not say it.
Let's just let it remain unsaid.
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By in large, I think the police showed too much restraint.
Posted by: Nice Deb at September 01, 2008 09:16 PM (4b22F)
Posted by: krakatoa at September 01, 2008 09:17 PM (lxcmS)
Posted by: wickedpinto at September 01, 2008 09:19 PM (ul7te)
Posted by: Christoph at September 01, 2008 09:19 PM (hawOV)
Posted by: David Ross at September 01, 2008 09:21 PM (ThkMv)
Posted by: Guy in Utah at September 01, 2008 09:22 PM (V3WTz)
Posted by: The Obvious at September 01, 2008 09:27 PM (1g+FW)
Posted by: lemmiwinks at September 01, 2008 09:29 PM (Qv6BF)
Posted by: wickedpinto at September 01, 2008 09:29 PM (ul7te)
Posted by: thebronze at September 01, 2008 09:30 PM (YlH3h)
Posted by: RajivVindaloo at September 01, 2008 09:32 PM (VesB0)
If your answer depends on the concentration of bleach, explain how you'd evaluate this while your face was melting.
Were I on a jury where a group of 20 people approached a single person and one of them sprayed the victim with a mixture no more toxic than swimming pool water, with the result the "victim" pulled a concealed handgun and double-tapped each attacker in the head, I would be leaning heavily toward "self defense, or proper defense of others."
Use of a terror weapon -- an asymmetric weapon such as bleach spray or sandbags off an overpass -- is beyond the pale. There should be no penalty for deadly response to such actions.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 01, 2008 09:33 PM (yDRXW)
Posted by: The Obvious at September 01, 2008 09:33 PM (1g+FW)
Posted by: someone at September 01, 2008 09:35 PM (2z2WN)
We'll see in the morning. Question, when does some right leaning journalist finally resign from the NYT and the WaPo when they refuse to cover stuff like this or lie about it in their coverage?
Posted by: The Obvious at September 01, 2008 09:38 PM (1g+FW)
But when they tell me I can't bring a gun, they had better damn well take responsibility for what happened. That these people were harmed is St Paul's fault too. I agree that shooting violent protesters is, at least in some cases, acceptable. It's necessary to protect the convention, and there are clearly psychopaths trying to harm good folks. These people are attacking this convention because they know they are safe to do so. Same reason people shoot up schools and malls. They aren't brave enough to get on a battlefield for their beliefs, so if these protesters were currently dead for their attacks, I think we wouldn't have any more injured innocents.
Pretty grotesque argument and totally unrealistic in our culture at this point.
Posted by: Shill at September 01, 2008 09:40 PM (8jYMc)
Urine buckets equal food in the man puppet from Brazil's world. It's not far fetched though, in Brazil it' might be a deliquesce.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 01, 2008 09:40 PM (jQj6D)
I have no doubt that I would kill somebody (somebodies) and end up in jail, so its' probably best I wasn't there, but, man... Doesn't it trigger some primal feelings?
Posted by: erik at September 01, 2008 09:43 PM (hblvb)
A prediction: Story is buried, page A8, bottom right under the lede "RNC Covention roundup". And who doused what with bleach will be unclear not mentioned.
Posted by: DPR VIII, now with 30% more ghey assiness at September 01, 2008 09:45 PM (4XUD3)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 01, 2008 09:46 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: The Obvious at September 01, 2008 09:48 PM (1g+FW)
Don't you go blaming the great and good Glenn Greenwald. He has exposed the hypocrisy of the Bush Empire in at least three books, and has been read on the Senate floor by Russ Feingold. How dare you besmirch the name of such a paragon blogger, author and, dare I say, poet.
Good day, sir!
Posted by: Ellers Wilson at September 01, 2008 09:52 PM (ThkMv)
Posted by: wickedpinto at September 01, 2008 09:54 PM (ul7te)
of honors winners. None of them were all that interested in the AP embedding itself with the Taliban. When does the lying stop? When do he journalists that claim to be regular folk do what regular folk do and tell the truth?
Posted by: The Obvious at September 01, 2008 09:57 PM (1g+FW)
Posted by: George Orwell at September 01, 2008 10:04 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: PDizzle at September 01, 2008 10:09 PM (btpzp)
Posted by: Patrick h at September 01, 2008 10:19 PM (nbVpI)
Then we need McCain and Obama both calling for stepped up police enforcement.
If Obama merely expresses sadness that violence took place, then he's really endorsing it.
If he's really opposed to the violence, he will call for a police crackdown.
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at September 01, 2008 10:27 PM (YvLui)
Posted by: someone at September 01, 2008 10:42 PM (2z2WN)
Posted by: Anonymous at September 01, 2008 10:43 PM (4yauu)
68, actually led to a grotesque division within the Dem' party. '68 was the catalyst that led to the ultra-left taking over the dem party.
'68 destoryed the dem's, not just in the election, but in general, completely changed the classical identity of the Dem's, allowing the 'pubs to regain prominence, even during a relatively weak year.
Posted by: wickedpinto at September 01, 2008 10:52 PM (ul7te)
Posted by: wickedpinto at September 01, 2008 10:53 PM (ul7te)
Posted by: Patrick h at September 01, 2008 11:13 PM (nbVpI)
Posted by: someone at September 01, 2008 11:21 PM (2z2WN)
People who feel motivated, even "inspired", by that big fat race-baiting base tool Rush Limbaugh and the ditto-headed dodo birds who don't understand that he is simply serving an agenda, who then decide to travel to Denver in hopes of watching or even participating in a soccer hooligan-like melee with those they call Servants of the Antichrist, who upon finding that all the Democrats are too busy with their convention to give them any more than wary eyes & wide berths, yet go on to push and push at every passing stranger until someone pushes back, are just tools.
But those who make up stories like this are worse than tools- they are Republicans.
On the other hand, we didn't hear or read even a single report of an accredited political news organization anywhere in Denver at any time during the DNC, left or right, being hassled, roughed up, bloodied, illegally arrested, detained, manhandled from the scene and paraded before a desk sergeant on trumped up generic charges, jail or being compelled to post prohibitively high bail to get released. That didn't happen even once in Denver- but it didn't happen once in St Paul either: it happened, is continuing to happen, and can be expected to happen, time after time in St Paul.
So-called law enforcement forces acting under a Republican state governor & a Republican federal administration to do these things are also worse than tools also- they are brownshirts.
This election starts a cycle of 8 or more years during which tools, morons, Republicans and brownshirts are going to "own" the consequences of their actions.
Count on it.
Posted by: Diderot's dog at September 02, 2008 01:41 AM (nrD02)
Posted by: Doc Rochester at September 02, 2008 01:44 AM (kXcbE)
Posted by: biscuiteater at September 02, 2008 01:45 AM (2JF/+)
Posted by: DngrMse at September 02, 2008 02:06 AM (r8xd5)
Posted by: The MSM at September 02, 2008 02:15 AM (TOly9)
People who feel motivated, even "inspired", by that big fat race-baiting base tool Rush Limbaugh and the ditto-headed dodo birds who don't understand that he is simply serving an agenda, who then decide to travel to Denver in hopes of watching or even participating in a soccer hooligan-like melee with those they call Servants of the Antichrist, who upon finding that all the Democrats are too busy with their convention to give them any more than wary eyes & wide berths, yet go on to push and push at every passing stranger until someone pushes back, are just tools.
Except none of that shit happened, you fucking imbecile. There weren't any incidents of "right-wing" violence against the attendees of your shittly little convention. What's happening now, just as it happened in 2004 and just as it will happen in perpetuity until some of your fellow travelers get the lead in their chests that they so richly deserve, is left-wing mutants attacking attendees to the Republican convention.
Only one ideology is personified by its appeals to violence against The Other as a sacred duty, and it isn't ours, asshole.
Posted by: VJay at September 02, 2008 02:34 AM (kico6)
On the other hand, we didn't hear or read even a single report of an accredited political news organization anywhere in Denver at any time during the DNC, left or right, being hassled, roughed up, bloodied, illegally arrested, detained, manhandled
You need to get out more, dumbfuck. A local reporter was assaulted and detained by the Denver cops because he had the temerity to stand on a public sidewalk and take pictures of the deep-pocketed syphilitic sleazebags that write the biggest checks to your party.
Miss that somehow, retard? Of course, you didn't "hear" about it because the Obama spirit squad members you count on for "news" collectively spiked the story. The One's shady glad-handing must not be exposed, no matter the cost.
But those who make up stories like this are worse than tools- they are Republicans.
Of course, DD. Your pathological need to pretend that Republicans are brownshirts that are simply inventing these stories and feeding them to a bizarro Pravda simply trumps the dozens of eyewitness accounts and police reports that refute your delusions. Time to take your meds again, sugartits.
Posted by: VJay at September 02, 2008 02:41 AM (kico6)
Posted by: stace at September 02, 2008 04:08 AM (JO0c/)
One more reason that taking self defense is a good idea. In a no gun zone, like the convention, I think the average hippy protestor/attacker would be suprised to find out there are 4 types of pressure points that can make you wish you were dead and that you know how to make all 4 types sing like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.
Posted by: Rob B at September 02, 2008 04:11 AM (q32Ly)
Posted by: stace at September 02, 2008 04:13 AM (JO0c/)
Posted by: Private Joker at September 02, 2008 04:28 AM (YYanS)
If there's fire, run it higher.
More than twenty years in television has taught me those two simple truths when it come to the news.
Whether protesters run amok, or are met with baton rounds and mounted police, if the pictures are good, no news producer worth their salary will not use them.
It's cynical and callous, I know, but if the militant wing of the Hope & Change Party did riot unfettered, there's only one candidate who would have to explain coast to coast and forever, the violence perpetrated on his behalf.
Posted by: lotocoti at September 02, 2008 04:54 AM (IF5U8)
Posted by: stace at September 02, 2008 05:26 AM (JO0c/)
That's some real hope and change there.
I'm getting pretty tired of this shit. That's all I'm going to say.
Posted by: Warden at September 02, 2008 05:31 AM (KXbGD)
Posted by: narciso at September 02, 2008 05:58 AM (8nB5X)
Please don't be hard on our boys (and girls) in blue. They did a great job! I was down there with the Support the Troops Coalition and the cops in full riot gear were as happy to see us as we were to see them. They shared information with us and allowed me to take a picture with them with my Victory over Terrorism sign.
Posted by: spurringirl at September 02, 2008 06:24 AM (AsFx1)
I know that we want to avoid becoming a "regional" party (though God knows that it seems that voting patterns for various regions seem pretty set at this point), but $hit like this only makes me think that we shouldn't hold any more conventions outside the South or maybe a few other places like Arizona.or Utah. "Protests" like this seem a lot more subdued in places where there is the prospect of doing real time in jail for thuggery and where anarchist douchebags face the real prospect of going up against cops and national guardsmen who don't mind mixing it up.
Posted by: CavMedic at September 02, 2008 06:25 AM (rYFmu)
Posted by: Socky at September 02, 2008 06:58 AM (PLvLS)
Is it going to be camps or mobile execution vans? The vans are more efficient, but have problems keeping up with large numbers of tools, morons, Republicans, and brownshirts who need to be "owned."
Count on it.
Oh, I do count on it. If there's anything the left excels at, it's imprisoning and executing political opponents.
Posted by: Evil Otto at September 02, 2008 06:59 AM (tYvh+)
If I were there and encountered these primates, it would be the worst day in the world.
I would go superfly TNT H-bomb on these chimps.
Oh, the horror.
Posted by: jdubya at September 02, 2008 07:09 AM (rYaSa)
I once dropped a bottle of bleach/water mixture, and it splashed onto my clothes and into my eyes. That really sucked. Clothes - ruined. Eyes - rinse for 1/2 hour, then was in pain for 2 days.
These "people" need a billy club massage. Followed by a cock punch.
Posted by: fugazi at September 02, 2008 07:49 AM (Gv0/M)
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Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 02, 2008 09:08 AM (6L459)
Posted by: chilly at September 02, 2008 09:18 AM (T9xUn)
The RNC should have moved their convention to Denver. The police were very well, and already prepared. I don't think Minnesota is up to it.
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