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June 19, 2008

Canadian Court Overturns... Parent's Grounding of Child for Posting "Inappropriate" Pictures of Herself the Internet
— Ace

The dad wouldn't allow her on a school trip after she repeatedly went to chat sites he had blocked her from using. And posted "inappropriate" pictures of herself.

Seems reasonable.

But a Canadian court reversed his decision:

The girl had taken her father to Quebec Superior Court after he refused to allow her to go on a school trip for chatting on websites he tried to block, and then posting "inappropriate" pictures of herself online using a friend's computer.
The father's lawyer Kim Beaudoin said the disciplinary measures were for the girl's "own protection" and is appealing the ruling.
"She's a child," Beaudoin told AFP. "At her age, children test their limits and it's up to their parents to set boundaries."
...
According to court documents, the girl's Internet transgression was just the latest in a string of broken house rules. Even so, Justice Suzanne Tessier found her punishment too severe.
"Now, if she had been posting excerpts from Mark Steyn's America Alone, I might have authorized involuntary psychiatric hospitalization," the judge allowed.

I made that last part up, but it's pretty much true.

Jesus. Candad's gone. It's gone, MacReady.

Now, this little whore was obviously chatting sexually with men (or at least boys) and posting sexualized pictures of herself. The dad tried to stop her; she wouldn't.

A judge stepped in to basically protect her fundamental right to be sexually violated by an adult.

I think child molesters get the message that Canada is "cool" with their lifestyle choices.

Ah: Maetenloch provides some crucial background:

The parents have been embroiled in a custody suit for years, and it appears the mother prompted the daughter to file the suit against her father.
After the ruling the father declined to take custody of the daughter back, saying he no longer had any control over her.

Longer Piece: with more on the Kramer-vs.-Kramer wrangling.

Fact is, the school's policy required permission from both parents. The father refused his, citing her consistently sneaking on to the internet against his wishes. The court claims the "context" is "complex," but the court stepped in and signed the permission slip on the father's behalf, basically.

Because a school trip was a "once in a lifetime" "rite of passage" and so was "exceptional."

She just graduated from elementary school.

Posted by: Ace at 01:15 PM | Comments (56)
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1 Sounds like a simple solution would be to let her figure out how to pay for a computer and internet access without her parents help.

Posted by: mpur at June 19, 2008 01:21 PM (WqhP5)

2 Time for her parents to shut off the family internet services and cut off any money behind paying for absolute necessities. This child is already a spoiled little brat

Posted by: Ragnell at June 19, 2008 01:31 PM (pGmVE)

The only way I can formalise Canadian parental law at this point: parents must convert to Islam in order to receive the protection of the state.

Posted by: David Ross at June 19, 2008 01:31 PM (GwV+j)

The parents have been embroiled in a custody suit for years, and it appears the mother prompted the daughter to file the suit against her father.

After the ruling the father declined to take custody of the daughter back, saying he no longer had any control over her.

Posted by: Maetenloch at June 19, 2008 01:33 PM (CA825)

5 This post is worthless without the pictures...

Posted by: going to hell at June 19, 2008 01:33 PM (gp8LA)

6 Canadian courts are filled with idiots. Watch out . . . their warped thought processes and twisted values are attempting to go south.

Posted by: rplat at June 19, 2008 01:34 PM (Qrnps)

God help us!

Socialism has gone completely fascistic in Canada.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 19, 2008 01:34 PM (1cbR0)

8 Sounds like mom is doing a bang up job raising the girl. [/sarcasm]

Posted by: mpur at June 19, 2008 01:34 PM (WqhP5)

as maetenloch says this is deeper than the intial report posted here.

the father has full custody and this smells like mom and the girl are in cahoots.

i bet it'll be appealed and won at a higher court.

Posted by: dr. akim ullshitbay at June 19, 2008 01:35 PM (EUUCu)

10 To many more rulings like this and we'll have to start patrolling our northern border as stringently (shit man, I'm killin' myself here) as we do our southern border. Otherwise we'll have a tide of illegals coming over the border looking for a better enviornment in which to raise their kids. And this time they'll be taking jobs that Americans will do. How do you say mojado in Canadian?

Posted by: pendejo grande at June 19, 2008 01:39 PM (l/U9W)

Also, this slick lookin' fucker that keep sliding in and out of the middle of this post is creeping me out. I hope he's paying Ace's rent or something.

Posted by: pendejo grande at June 19, 2008 01:42 PM (l/U9W)

12 Here's the National Post story on this case.

Posted by: Maetenloch at June 19, 2008 01:44 PM (CA825)

13 The only way I can formalise Canadian parental law at this point: parents must convert to Islam in order to receive the protection of the state.

If the father had only carried out an honor killing, everything would be hunky-dory.

Posted by: pbrown at June 19, 2008 01:46 PM (vxGjP)

14 Pendejo,
That is to test if you are the child-molesting type. That guy is like a crucifix to a vampire for the online molesters. The Dateline sting guy he be.

Posted by: Bobby Hill at June 19, 2008 02:02 PM (+MtXg)

15 Obama's change

Posted by: dri at June 19, 2008 02:03 PM (BghOJ)

16 My mother tells me "payback is hell" any time any of my kids get the least bit out of line. And she says it with a cackle. Someday this daughter's going to be dealing with her own kids, and it's all going to come back on her. Assuming the mom doesn't pay for a string of abortions along the way, considering she's encouraging her daughter to act like a slut, and that she's teaching her daughter that parental discipline is something you sue to get rid of. That mom's going to be begging her ex to take this girl off her hands in no time.

Guys, let this be a lesson to you - be careful who you run the risk of knocking up, because you can end up in a situation like this, where no matter how hard you try to do a decent job raising your kids, your baby mama is working hard to thwart you at every turn, just to make your life hell.

Posted by: Alice H at June 19, 2008 02:10 PM (jRtPb)

17
I hear there's been a shortage of Strippers in Canada.

Glad they are getting busy working on bringing up the next generation of valuable stripping industry workers.

Posted by: electricferret at June 19, 2008 02:12 PM (9zMOM)

Ok, listen closely:

QUEBEC IS NOT PART OF CANADA

They have their own, seperate laws, completely alien to the rest of us. I'm not kidding! It's based on France's "common law" rather than British legal traditions.

Plus Froggy Quebecious judges test the medisinal marijuahana at least twice a day, eh?

And yeah, that whole bitch mom involved in pointless custody battle thing is altogether too common.

Posted by: 5Cats at June 19, 2008 02:21 PM (Knaf0)

Father: "This is madness!"

Judge Tessier: "This. Is. CANADA!!!"

Posted by: Enas Yorl at June 19, 2008 02:21 PM (BvNzB)

20 well, im afraid we're not far behind the socialism curve from those douches to the north. we do have congressmen and women openly calling for nationalizing the oil industry. oh,, and what the fuck is an obscene profit? and when did it become sinful in capitalist society to profit as much as you can get away with? by the way, the oil companies profit margins are 8%,,8% ! people!. theyre not fucking us, commodity speculators are. to paraphrase jefferson, a little revolutuion never hurts. gonna go clean my guns now. later

Posted by: spear at June 19, 2008 02:27 PM (oejMf)

21 So... was the daughter painted like a cow?

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at June 19, 2008 02:28 PM (ltwze)

22 spear: hunh?!?

Posted by: dr. akim ullshitbay at June 19, 2008 02:30 PM (EUUCu)

23 Or to elaborate, were these pictures sexualized, or were they sexualized? After that judge in, I think it was Oregon?... I'm less likely to judge without more detail. Was this a case of her just winking at the camera, or winking at the camera wearing nothing but a choker and high heels? Eww. I can't believe I just asked that.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at June 19, 2008 02:32 PM (ltwze)

24 If it wasn't for Terence and Philip, Canada would be a total waste.

Posted by: joe at June 19, 2008 02:34 PM (YcIuv)

25 I was going to look for these "inappropriate pictures" of this brat until I saw Chris Hansen looking at me. Now I feel shame.

Posted by: Boob Chaser at June 19, 2008 02:40 PM (gLNLT)

26 dr akim, please dont interupt me when im clinging to my guns and religion, im afraid people who look different. i need indoctrination badly

Posted by: spear at June 19, 2008 02:41 PM (oejMf)

27 To further elaborate, even if it was just a mild picture, what the hell is a judge doing getting involved in a parental matter? Was there a law broken at some point? Would the judge like to raise the kid, now that the father has given up his custody?

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at June 19, 2008 02:51 PM (ltwze)

28 If the parents were in the midst of a custody battle, even in the U.S., they have essentially forfeited having the last word on these issues to the courts. The rule, at least where I live, and where I practice law is, once the court assumes jurisdiction over children, it retains it until they are 18 (or 21 if they go to college.) This means that either parent or the child can go to court to modify or review these sorts of decisions. That said, I've been appointed to represent kids in divorce proceedings and have had them call me complaining about one or both parents. Absent abuse or neglect allegations, my answer is always the same: " They're your parents. Live with it. I'm not going to waste the court's time or your parents' money fighting about whether you get to play little league baseball." Regards.

Posted by: R. Sherman at June 19, 2008 03:34 PM (+Ktor)

29 So what is the point in sending home a permission slip if "no" isn't an answer? It then becomes a trip mandated by the government.

Posted by: crosspatch at June 19, 2008 03:52 PM (/XgUc)

30 Hmmmm.

Pics plz

Posted by: memomachine at June 19, 2008 04:23 PM (XlmYx)

31 The State is Mother, the State is Father. Biological parents are just on the hook to do what the State tells them to do.

Canada's dead.

Posted by: Unknown Moron at June 19, 2008 05:47 PM (V0HG7)

32 30 seconds, tops.

"Not within the Court's competence. Dismissed." (whack)

Posted by: Rasputin at June 19, 2008 05:49 PM (p+oBD)

33 Quebec, here I come!

Posted by: Supreme Commander Gary Glitter at June 19, 2008 05:50 PM (46wPp)

34 So, would this precident apply to boys as well?

Posted by: Michael Jackson at June 19, 2008 05:52 PM (46wPp)

35 This post is worthless without the pictures..

Dude, you ain't just going to hell, you're going to the special hell...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 19, 2008 05:54 PM (Ds4I5)

36 That Dad needs to learn how to dad-yell. The kind of yelling where as soon as he starts raising his voice, you put your hands over your ears, run around in circles and throw yourself down the stairs. My Dad could teach a class on the weekends.

Posted by: Joanie at June 19, 2008 06:18 PM (Yyy1m)

37 Since Canadian courts think the molestation and murder of children is no big deal, why would they care that this girl is on the internet already flashing her pooter at age 12? Uptight fascist Americans!

Posted by: GRC at June 19, 2008 06:53 PM (om9wT)

38 Obviously, Canadian courts don't have much to do if they hear cases about 12 year olds being grounded.

Posted by: GRC at June 19, 2008 07:11 PM (om9wT)

Now comes the father and for his counterclaim states as follows:

The pliantiff is not my daughter. I hereby renounce all parental rights and obligations.

Posted by: nk at June 19, 2008 07:17 PM (/pVGr)

That Dad needs to learn how to dad-yell.

My dad had "the grit". He wouldn't yell at all, he would just grit his teeth and speak through them. Very slowly and deliberately. It would scare the ever loving shit out of me and my sister. Even now, brr, chill went down my spine just thinking about it. That, and he had a fraternity paddle like the one in Animal House. He never actually hit us with it. He would just take it out and wave it in the air, the wind it created would make you want to run through a wall to get away.

Of course, it didn't hurt that he was as big as an ox and twice as strong.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2008 07:27 PM (VBon8)

41 America really doesn't have to worry about immigration from Mexico. They have to worry about the complete morons from Canada coming across the border. Please, build a wall up north first. Immediately.

Posted by: roy at June 19, 2008 07:34 PM (6qNVk)

The follow-up story to this one in a few months will be the father refusing to pay for the abortion the kid needs after having let 4 teenage boys pull a train on her on the school trip, and the mother trying to force him to pay for it, with the Court saying, "why, yes, she must have an abortion, because she's only 12 and of course that's the correct thing for her to do because she's not old enough to be a mom, so we'll order the abortion, and order the father to pay."

Or, nine months later the follow-up story is whether the kid conceived as previously mentioned (a train, you dirty-minded bastards) should be under the custody of the mom who let the 12 year old dick sponge go on the trip, the father who didn't want her to, or whether the fucking superior court of fucking Quebec should have to take care of the newborn! Wonder how that ruling would work out . . .

Posted by: Sharkman at June 19, 2008 08:11 PM (UioS4)

Father: "This is madness!"

Judge Tessier: "This. Is. CANADA!!!"

"Tonight, we dine....in MECCA!"

Posted by: drjohn at June 20, 2008 04:15 AM (324mD)

>16 Assuming the mom doesn't pay for a string of abortions along the way, considering she's encouraging her daughter to act like a slut, and that she's teaching her daughter that parental discipline is something you sue to get rid of.

Alice H at June 19, 2008 07:10 PM

Canada has free universal health care, abortions included.

A girl doesn't even need her parent's knowledge or permission to have one. All the girl needs to do is go to a clinic and present her health care card.

Posted by: Speller at June 20, 2008 05:18 AM (Pi/61)

45 I for one fully support this girl's right to express herself.

brb moving to Canada lol

Posted by: PedoBear at June 20, 2008 05:53 AM (DfROI)

46 Give her internet access, but remove all computers from the home.

Posted by: Kevin at June 20, 2008 06:58 AM (OEF4E)

47 Just stopped by to say hi to the handsome dude peering out looking at me. Wow...eye candy looking right at me...who wooda thunk it on an ace blog?

Posted by: Texasgolden at June 20, 2008 09:05 AM (fNlX+)

48 parents must convert to Islam in order to receive the protection of the state

Heh. Had done so, he could have ended her internet whoring ways with a simple honor killing.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 20, 2008 09:33 AM (1hM1d)

49 I don't know which is worse, the fact that so many people are asking for the pics, or that I thought of that before I read the comments.

At least I had the common sense not to mention it. Wait, ...?

DAMMIT!

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