1 Jesus was a staunch believer in confidential sources.

2 Palin didn't publish her emails for profit so when AP dilutes the value.. .. . Rhetorical question? I always miss those.

3 Can you say obstruction of justice?


I knew you could.

4

Found this on HotAir in one of the comments:

FATHER OF HACKER Is Tennessee Dem State Rep?!!!!! …Update: Name- David Kernell

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/father-of-hacker-is-tennessee-dem-state.html

5 Can you say obstruction of justice?

Yep,
as well as a bucket of lies.
Can you say slander?

(from the article)
The break-in of Palin’s private account is especially significant because Palin sometimes uses non-government e-mail to conduct state business.

6 Thanks, Ace. That Michael would be me. Sorry I haven't updated my blog in a while. I'm always so stone drunk when I get home from my day job as a hobo that I can't figure out how to turn my computer on.

7

I wonder if the AP reporter is really willing to go to jail to protect their source. Of course this won't happen until long after the election, so it's probably a moot point.

8 Why does the phrase "obstruction of justice" keep wandering around in my brain?

9 YahooGate...

10 Thirteen28,

Yes, I believe we were discussing it here last evening, as well. Rubico10 is the username the hacker posted with. Rubico10 also has an account on New Grounds, which links to what it says is his personal website. There he gives his real name, says Fox News is a hypocrite, and says he lives in Tenn. A Democratic legislator in Tenn. has a son with the same name.

There was a YouTube account for Rubico10 last night but it's deleted today. Other profiles have been cleared and the legislator father refuses to comment on the matter.

11

Instapundit sez: "The hacker said that he read all of the e-mails in the Palin account and found "nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped. All I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family."

So if this dickweed was a remotely cool customer, he would have scanned the trove for useful dirt, and finding none, should have just clammed up, and even saved what he knew (access) for another day, or at least not burned himself.

But he just HAS to be all smarmy and hip, and let us all know how cool he is, even anonomously, and he has to put the hurt on the Palin family, even though they can reover reasonably easily. And now her sympathy reserve rises and the Feds are on his case, and Bill O'Reilly is calling attornies general daily to see what they are doing about it all.

Nice work, doofus.

 

 

 

 

12 AP is also trying re-categorize this as a "prank" even though the cracker/guesser stated his intention was to derail her candidacy.

13 Going against the grain here, i don't think there will be charges of obstruction of justice against the AP on the grounds of the "confidential sources" exception that journalists use to withhold the names of their sources.
I know, BS, but would you trust a journalist if your were law enforcement? I didn't think so.

14 O.M.G.

15 The son of state Rep. Mike Kernell has been contacted by authorities in connection with a probe into the hacking of personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, Kernell told The Tennessean.


-------

Well, there you go.

16 BEST ELECTION EVEH!!!!

17 Electric Chair is in order

18 i don't think there will be charges of obstruction of justice against the AP on the grounds of the "confidential sources" exception that journalists use to withhold the names of their sources.

No. The hacker might get charged with Obstruction for deleting everything he can.

19 Well I can say it now. David Kernell is a sophomore engineering physics student at UT.

20 And he likes to DANCE!

21 Be ready for some very... careful reporting.  Lots of ambiguity, and missing information galore.  And let me guess, there will be consistency in how it is reported and what information is routinely left out by competing, non-biased news sources.

But: how dare you accuse them of being driven by ideology and agenda!

22 he wiped out his Youtube account, odds are it was full of Pro-Obama stuff

23 mikekernell.com is currently not reachable.  I guess a bunch of people are suddenly interested in him. 

24 I really really really hope this is the guy they're after...but on the off chance they made the wrong connection, can we hold fire until it's verified by law enforcement?

I wouldn't want the left to accuse us of something awful, like forming some online lynch mob going after the kids of an elected offi....oh, wait.

25 So, anyone up for a DAve Kernel true facts thread?

Dave Kernell is hung like Pluto, hard to see with the naked eye.

Dave Kernell hasn't brushed his teeth in seven years

26 Last night, someone linked to a blog who gave info on the person but not his name because he had not yet been charged.  Apparently, his description was right. However, he did say the guy had at least two psych hospitalizations, which mean he could be nuts, or he could be a little sniveling sociopath.

Penfold:  I agree because it's too much of a hassle. However, there is no federal privledge to a newsman source. In fact, it would be fun to stick a couple of AP reporters in jail for contempt indefinitely.  I'm bad though. If the plane carrying the reporters crashed, I would shed no tears.

27 That brood of vipers inhabiting the Southern Party have earned the enmity of all men, and of heaven itself. 

28 2003 My name is David KernellI am 15 a white cacasian male i live in memphis, TN. My favorite and only hobby is chess, more like an obsession. I am not afraid to say that i have acute depression and have been institutionalized twice, one at th age of 9 in Texas and one this past year. I have been strugleing with this for my entire life and have finally come to the conclusion that being stoic in most of life’s issues is of the untmost importance. i have to go to sleep now, its 2 AM here. notice, i never say goodbye or c ya Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:kcvl/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

29 Holy. Shit.  I wonder if the media will play "Name That Party!" with this guy?

30 how many abortions has this little bastard had?

31

My money says this guy has volunteered for the Obama campaign at least once.

IF that is the case I want to see this headline everywhere: Obama Campaign Volunteer Illegally Accesses and Publishes Gov. Palin's Personal Email Account

32 I'm sure that his Daddy is so proud that his son is going to spend a few years in jail.

33 Remember when Protest Warrier got hacked and everyone's email was posted? The bottom line, the info was posted off university servers and the academic fucks in charge never would order it removed.

34 If I had the address, telephone number, cell number, home number, email of every leftard reporter, I would post it.

35 Seriously. http://dailybeacon.utk.edu/showarticle.php?articleid=51769

36 And he likes to DANCE!

That's code for he's a fag, right?

37 for #20 SALSA!

38 he wiped out his Youtube account, odds are it was full of Pro-Obama stuff

No such luck. It only contained a video of (apparently) him playing guitar.

39 on second thought, electric chair is too easy.  Let's Waterboard him!  Us rethuglicans love us some torture!!!

40 Here's a new one. I did a google search on the kid's name and at the bottom of the page was: 

In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

google.y={first:[]};window.setTimeout(function(){var xjs=document.createElement('script');xjs.src='/extern_js/f/CgJlbhICdXMrMAc4AiwrMBg4Aiw/tOvl6yWhIRk.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(xjs)},0)

41 Here's the cache of his alleged YouTube page for anyone interested.

42 media will refer to this as a "College Kid prank" and "harmless mistake" and laugh it off, play "name that party" if mention his father at all.

43 Jim Hoft now has a picture of him.

44 29 Holy. Shit.  I wonder if the media will play "Name That Party!" with this guy?

Count on it and also you'll notice the AP is already trying to rewrite their own reporting that it was a hack - it's now just a sill prank.

45 Hey!  I didn't post that gobbly gook. I clicked on the link and they say it was removed due to child porn. Is google saying a David Kernell likes to diddle little kids??

http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=1161

46 kid is bound to have Facebook and/or Myspace accounts

47

He'll be a Kos diarist tomorrow and take the time slot after Olbermann next Friday.

Trust me.

48

When/If the MSM ever gets around to reporting this, what do you think the odds of his father's party affiliation being reported will be?

Oh yeah, I'll go to hell for this but I wanted to say it first.

Jesus was a hacker!

 

49 Hmm, where did I see all of this before?

Keep scrolling.

50 Just don't question their ethics...

51 Or their patriotism...

52 Do they play Chess in Levenworth?

53

Uberpuss will probably have him on his show tonight with a new segment called "Real Amerikan Heroes" or "Best Person in the World."

 

54 Oh, remember the Martins:
http://www.rightgrrl.com/carolyn/gingrichtripp.html

55 Daddy attends Gay Pride events:

http://grand-divisions.blogspot.com/2008/06/shelby-county-committee-at-mid-south.html

And sponsors legislation to let people change their birth certificates to reflect new gender after sex changes:

http://eqfed.org/tnep/alert-description.tcl?alert_id=23189483

Maybe Davey Boy is ghey.

56

I say we all send him some KY jelly to make his stint in the pen. more pleasant....out of the kindness of our conservative hearts.

 

who's in?

57 If he's not now, he may have a change of heart

58 If he's not now, he may have a change of heart

At the least, I think he's going to need a change of shorts when he sees the "4chan party van" arrive for him.

59 Can you imagine doing hard time because of your lame attempts to get Barry elected. That thought would make a bad cell mate.

60 Here's his peekyou profile with a picture. David Carl Kernell, y'all.

61 I happened to watch the guitar video last night before the Youtube account was yanked.

It was a horrendous cover of Death Cab's "I will follow you into the dark"

62 Can you imagine doing hard time because of your lame attempts to get Barry elected. That thought would make a bad cell mate.

I can imagine the sentencing...

"For your illegal intrusion into Gov. Palin's e-mail account and theft of data therein, I sentence you to no less than five years in a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass prison."

63 so how will O'Reily handle this tonight?

64 http://apocalypticvisions.blogspot.com/

Get it before it's deleted.

65 Gay? I dunno. I predict he's just a quirky sort. But he does like to rhumba!

66 Hold your horses.  There is nothing new here, right?

He was fingered (ugh) on blogs last night, and now the feds are talking to him. 

That seems like a logical step given the online speculation, but it does not mean he is guilty.

67 http://skirtsnotpantsuits.blogspot.com/2008/09/and-hacker-is.html

Here's a photo of him.

68 YOU'RE FUCKED, PUNK...GET YOUR BAGS PACKED, 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA DO SOME TIME IN THE BIG HOUSE....BITCH! 

My best guess is 2-5...you'll get to try out for the prison football team...first year as a tight end, second year as a wide receiver...

69

Mitnick got 5 years.

Cosmo: There I was in prison. And one day I help a couple of older gentlemen make some free telephone calls. They turn out to be, let us say, good family men.
Martin Bishop: Organized crime?
Cosmo: Hah. Don't kid yourself. It's not that organized.

Zero Cool wasn't allowed to touch a computer, and he was only 5 when he was guilty.

Okay, only the Mitnick one is a real story.

70 This is a golden moment for the media to dig into this kid's personal life like they did with Bristol Palin.



hehehe....who the fuck am I kidding?

71 "The neighbors knew he was strange they just could not pinpoint it. "

72 #60 - thanks for the link.  He looks delicate...

73 Let me be the first, and perhaps the last, to say, "Go easy on this kid."  Or at least be measured and deliberate.  If indeed he's been institutionalized twice, there simply isn't any benefit weighed against the cost of trying to "punish" him in some way commensurate with how sick the hacking made most of us.

If he can be linked somehow to some secret Obama action alert, then fine, but parachuting in the on-call right-of-center blogosphere firing squad to make this kid pay just feels like it is not a very good idea.  Let the act speak for itself.  It was a crime, and he'll face it.  Whether or not it hurts Palin depends in large part on how we react.  If we emphasize that even the hacker says he didn't find the dirt he was looking for, it can be a positive.  If we emphasize our desire to descend upon him and give him an online pounding he'll never forget, then the emphasize will be in the wrong place.

I'm a fake internet pirate, and I'll stand by this message.

74 Question--What's the difference between David Kernell and a Pitbull?

Answer--A pitbull isn't going to spend the next 5 years getting ass-raped in Federal Prison.

75 This kid even called Bristol's cell phone too.

"Hey babe, wanna go hang out at the Tastee Freez sometime?  What?  You have a boyfriend?  Well, is he an 3l33t h/\X0r like me?  CALL ME!!!"

76 So this punk has gender identity issues and suffers from depression.

Sounds perfectly Kos to me.

77 That seems like a logical step given the online speculation, but it does not mean he is guilty.

Indeed. It is unusual, however, for the YouTube page to suddenly get deleted, the Democratic father's page to disappear, rubico10's profiles to start clearing/locking, etc.

78 And Glenn Greenwald is continuing his attack on Palin by suggesting she had something to hide.

Blame the victim, he says. (I am paraphrasing)

79 The spelling seems to presage lolcats.

80 From his little webpage...

My favorite and only hobby is chess, more like an obsession.

Your new hobby/obsession will be trying to make it through the next 5 years of your life without Bubba the moonshine runner trying not to tap that purty ass of yours...

81 PLEASE STOP DUMPING LONG URLS IN THE COMMENTS.

MAKE THEM SMALL VIA TINYLINK.COM.

I AM TIRED OF FIXING THE BLOWN FUCKING MARGINS EVERY DAY.

THANK YOU.

82 Dude's dumber than a box of very dumb rocks.

A smart criminal would have a) covered his tracks much, much better  b)having failed to find anything juicy, would have invented it. ("Hey, check it out, Palin's got an email from David Duke!")

But, like I said, the kid's stupider than stupid.  So, I'm sure he'll enjoy discussing politics with his prison boyfriend.

83

His dad: "RAISE SHIELDS!"

In Nashville Thursday, Rep. Kernell would neither confirm nor deny his son had any involvement in hacking Palin’s e-mail account.

“My son’s the one in question and I can’t comment on him,” Kernell said.

The state representative also would not say whether rubico10@yahoo.com is or is not his son’s e-mail address. “I can’t comment on my son,” he repeated.

Kernell said he has not been contacted by investigators. “I can't say about my son,” he added. “That doesn't mean he has or hasn't been contacted.”

David Kernell, now a student at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, could not be reached.

 

My wife's a Vol. She gets an extra spanking tonight for this. Or something.

84

As for the Alinsky Connection.

 

The Democratic National Convention had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky style.

 

So say's alinsky's son.

85 He shore got a purty mouth.

86 AP has its corporate tit in a wringer. Hopefully the Feds will go right to a judge for subpoenas. AP will complynaturally claiming martyrdom at the hands of Bushitler.

87

Who here actually believes for a moment that this dumbass will do time.  Anyone?  Anyone?

Of course he won't.  He's a Democrat pursuing a Democrat agenda.

88 I detect no gayface. At the risk of being very insensitive to those who fight a hard battle against mental illness, he looks like he has "schizo face"

89 Cuffy!  Get on that shit!

And I mean the story, not your wife!












Unless you want to.

90 TINYURL.COM, I MEANT.

SERIOUSLY -- NO MORE LONG UNFORMATTED URLS. 

91 Let's have a lynchin'!

92 Didnt see any Facebook entries, only David Kernell was in Sweden. Lots of Kernells in Nashville though, im sure they are related, but we arent that dirty are we?

93 Or use the linky thingy in the visual editor, or does that screw stuff up too?

94

If we were talking about someone on the Senate Ways and Means Committee, that's who we need off the streets.  The world is full crooks that never see the inside of a cell, and it makes me tired to think of it.  I could make better money as a grifting politician.  All I need is an IQ of 50 and as much charisma as a sociopath.  This guy is a small fry in the grand scheme of the universe.

 

95 Erik, there is a very slim chance, but a chance nonetheless, that someone used his ID and made up his story to frame him. One thing that's new is that his identity as son of Senator Kernell has been confirmed. If his son had no possible connection to this case, it would have been strongly asserted by now. I emailed the Senator myself last night, as I'm sure hundreds other did, so it's not as though he wouldn't be aware of the threat to his son's and his own reputation.

96 http://www.peekyou.com/USA/Tennessee/Knoxville/David_Kernell/10962447.html

97 http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/house/members/h93.htm

He's running for re-election this fall, too.

98 Institutionalized twice, and a bloody retard to boot.

See the update if you haven't seen his blog in this thread.

99 http://http://www.peekyou.com/USA/Tennessee/Knoxville/David_Kernell/10962447.html

100 A nice felony conviction that includes a ban on voting would be sweet. Along with some prison time.

101 David may well be the perpetrator here but we are not at that point yet.  Let the left jump to conclusions; they are far better at it than we.

So a person claiming to have broken into Palin's Yahoo account (I hate to say hacker but cracker has not fully entered the lexicon) used a Yahoo address that at once belonged to a state representitive.  I see more than one problem here (person taking credit might not be the one who did it, or may have broken into the representitive's account as well).

If it is a user of the representitives account, why assume it is the college age Son?  It could be another relative or the representitive himself.

Let's hold our anger a little bit.  Remember the blogger falsely accused of being the Virginia Tech killer?  There were a lot more coincidences there than in this case.

102

Get on that shit!

I'll make her wear Palin glasses and force her to hack into my pants.

103 ace,

Don't take it too harshly. They were just distracted by your great ass.

*****

Novice legal question: The "hacker" impersonated Palin in order to change her password. Could that qualify as identity theft or would it just be the hacking charge?

104 Waffles may still be running, but he ain't no mo' in the running...

105 And it is rock solid confirmed that he is the David Kernell who is sophomore in engineering physics...and a DANCER!

106 At UT!

107 search Myspace by his email address maybe?  can't do it myself, behind firewall

108 Now that the main post is updated to highlight the guy's depression and institutionalization, let me repeat myself:  Careful.   A lynching as suggested in an earlier comment would not do any of us any good.

109 #87, the likelyhood of this putz doing time is less than 50/50. Party hacks will be scrambling to get the case before a party hack judge for a scummy plea bargain.

110

Erik, there is a very slim chance, but a chance nonetheless, that someone used his ID and made up his story to frame him.

Why Karl Rove of course

 

111

A lynching as suggested in an earlier comment would not do any of us any good.

 

a Waterboarding would however!

112 Institutionalized twice ...

Oh, noe!!!11!!!!!!  He's going to use the INSANITY DEFENSE!

113 Your name is MUDD!  Dr. Mudd harbored John Wilkes Booth and set his broken leg in the day after Lincoln's assasination.  He has only lately been largely exonerated.  The arguments will likely continue, but his name will always be Mudd to some.

114 The Dates on Apocoliptic Visions, show that he was 15 at the time of the writing, so thats a little rough judgement there.

115

Ace, I love it when you are angry.

116

The problem with going easy on him because he's been institutionalized twice is that 99% of Omessiah's disciples should be institutionalized.  If we start cutting them all slack for being dumbasses, there will be no accounting for any of the vicious crap they are perpetrating.

These people are vicious jackals, and I apologize to the jackals for dragging them into this.

117 A lynching as suggested in an earlier comment would not do any of us any good.

How do you know?  Have you ever tried it?

Now that the main post is updated to highlight the guy's depression and institutionalization, let me repeat myself:  Careful.

Wow. Built in get out of jail free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

118 en el fuego!

119                                                      YahooGate...!!!
It's why I bookmark S. Weasel too!

120 Michael Stora, you have some facts mixed up. I don't know where you got the idea that the rubico account belonged to the representative. You don't seem to have the whole story.

121 Dr. Mudd is related to Roger Mudd who is the father of  Daniel Mudd, the CEO of Fannie Mae, who fucked us.

122 I hope he does the honorable thing.

123

he was crazy in 2003, when he was 15...he's 20 now...fair game.

but lets be nice and send him to the Federal Pen. with a tube of KY as a Gift from the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"

124 And Michael stora, no there weren't more coincidences in that VA tech blogger thing at all. I believe you are operating from a position of ignorance.

125 @117
He won't get out of jail free.  He won't escape consequences for what he's done, if he did it. 
That's not my point.  This story is going to fall one of two ways, in Palin's favor or against her.  Using hyperbolic mob language, however tongue in cheek, against a kid who, quite frankly, presents a quite pathetic image, will only shift the story to one of sympathy for him (at least among those who pay attention to blog comments).

Let the authorities deal with the kid.  Law enforcement is what found him in under 48 hours; we didn't.

Now having said all that I will note the irony that his last blog post is about a story he was writing that culminated in stealing mail.

126 I was refering to ace calling him illiterate.

127 AIDS-induced dementia is no excuse for attacking a child; similarly, depression is no excuse for hacking someone's e-mail.

128

Well, you're already famous, of course. I'll just put out every goddamn bit of dirt I get fed on you, cocksucker.

 

Cocksucker is going to be all too accurate a description of our be-pimpled little hacker.  He's rather geeky, and innocent looking.  I predict he'll be very popular in prison.

129 Arty:  No, it won't get him out of a jail sentence but it will get him a deferred sentence or probation because he is a rich white kid. However, if he wasn't so rich or a minority, the "I'm depressed!" excuse would keep him out of the slammer.  If you are so offended by hyperbolic language, you are on the wrong fucking blog.

130

Get 'em, Ace.  No mercy. 

I'm ready to be as evil as the looney left claims we are.  Waterboard him.  Let's use some McCarthy tactics and get some names.  Then waterboard those people and get some more names.

I was looking forward to this election being more civil than years past.  I think Obama's a decent guy, with a lot of ego and wrong-headedness.  But the minions that support him are evil.  Pure as the barbed-cock-of Satan evil.  And I wish them pain and grief and misery and weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.  It's nothing they don't wish on each of us.  But they deserve it.

Know what - I'm still looking forward to this election.  To winning it!  And yes, I consider McCain Palin victory a win.  Absolutely.

131 Once the Secret Service has cleared the parents of involvement, Palin needs to call them with the old parent to parent support... and have the call not be leaked for a few days.  Gives her the soft touch of "understanding" how our kids can let us down.

132 would NOT keep him out of the slammer.

133

And I agree, he seems like a pathetic little loser.  Kinda like the kid who hacked into the "Gibson" and ended up in jail for his efforts, only so he could brag about it to some of his friends, with some politicaly correct bullshit he could capitalize on with his fellow politicaly ignorant students, and maybe a proffession or visiting professor who might come by to lecture on climate change or something.

Catch him, humiliate him, convict him, and suspend part of  his sentence, that way he can't vote, but has a chance at learning a lesson.

134 Can we be so sure that this meathead pulled this off all by his little self? Sounds like he's a patsy.

135 @129

I never said I was offended.  I said other things.  I'm a big boy.  I'll let it go now.  I will start every sentence with either I, I'm, or I'll.

136 The same kid who wrote that illiterate blog entry was admitted to UT to study *engineering physics*?   WTF?  I'm going to play thru that chess game he posted and see why he's so proud of it.

137 Arty:  what the fuck do you think? That we're all going to fly to Tenn., drag him out of his house, and hang him? Jeesh! Get a clue. Really go be an internet scold somewhere else.  I'm not interested.

138 Comment #101: "David may well be the perpetrator here but we are not at that point yet.  Let the left jump to conclusions; they are far better at it than we."

Stora is right.

It is quite possible that he did it.  Yes, it would be highly stupid to put forth a post including his email address on a forum, even a non-logged forum where the post was guaranteed to disappear and non-searchable, but put yourself in the shoes of a relatively privileged 20-year-old: if the rubico post was really made by him, and rubico was the original anonymous poster, then the guy panicked.  He was scared, and lonely, and he wanted somebody to talk to.  Maybe he posted with an email address because he was hoping somebody would email him, so he could keep the conversation going.  It is dumb as hell.  But plausibly dumb.  I don't have any problem believing he would do that. 

But y'know what?  Maybe he didn't.  Maybe somebody who didn't like him spoofed his email address.  Maybe he is the rubico poster, but just tried to claim involvement to boost his cred, and he wasn't the original guy who broke into Governor Palin's account.  Those are still possibilities, too. 

The feds are on it.  They'll find out.  The lack of a statement from his father -- not even a pro forma "My son has nothing to do with this incident and is cooperating fully with authorities" -- suggests that they're seriously interested, but it's early yet.  Give 'em some time.  Give the feds a chance to check the server logs, and the guy in question a chance to talk to his dad and his lawyer, and the dad and lawyer a chance to figure out what they're going to say.

If they're charging him, we'll know soon enough.

139 Despite the fact that he has been institutionalized I would like to see this guy screwed but I agree with the poster above that this can be turned to a net positive for McCain / Palin.  If we howl for blood we engender sympathy for the little twerp, but if we all calmly point out that he found nothing incriminating (by his own account) we just hurt him with the Kossaks and by extension we hurt them because this line of attack is removed from their arsenal.

140

didn't read the thread but wanted to try to post before the intratubes melt.

Since the email story has been huge, talked up by Obama irrggulars and since Team Obama has turned nasty enough that some comment is trickling up in the MSM (Yay Rush), this is a huge story.

Bad event for Team Obama.  Maybe Team McCain's lipstick reaction ads everyone didn't like was a trap to goad Obama even more negative thinking that will backfire.

Didn't Rove just warn Obama about attacking? 

141 I hope he gets assraped in the county lockup. No more fortunate son treatment for spoiled white rich kids!

No Justice! No Peace !

142

Well the description of how he did it insinuates that the only thing he really needed was motivation (he has issues with scociety dating back 5 years if not more) and a gamers attitude towards taking advantages of a bug, or a feature that (really, do any of your restore questions actually apply to your answers?) Sarah should have been a little slicker with.

143

73 Let me be the first, and perhaps the last, to say, "Go easy on this kid."  Or at least be measured and deliberate. 

Not the last. This kid - or young man, now - obviously has mental problems. He's been institutionalized, for God's sake.

I very much doubt he will do any prison time. Mandatory counseling and community service seem like a more likely outcome. Given his mental problems, probably the best and fairest outcome, too.

144 I love love love that burning skull.

145 In the loony bin twice, how unsurprising -- the interesting thing in this story is the insight it gives on the mental fragility and outright sickness of the leftist mind. Institutional grade rot at the core of their mind and spirit.

A few years ago I remember reading about some psych study about the dream patterns of those on the left and the right. I'm too lazy to go search for it, but the jist was that Democrats tended to have dark, anxiety-ridden dreams with lots of forced sex and death, while Repubs would have much more positive and mundane dream life.

OK, I did find the article after all:
<a href="http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=558b85e1-b62c-4b59-9a01-09266fad43ed&p=1" target="_blank">Dream world a strange, scary place for liberals</a>

146 If this is indeed the hacker, Palin would be well advised to forgive him and to ask that no punitive legal action be taken. Worth about another 3 million votes from parents of troubled teens across the country.

147 Sorry, here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/4ck3ph

148 Am I to understand that the Palin children are "fair game" but this 20 year old criminal is not?

149 You know, Ace, it does sort of seem that way, doesn't it?

150

I'm not saying that at all.  I'm crazy, but my family didn't have the cash to ship me off to university.  When I fucked up I felt ashamed, and I did a few days in jail, a month in the brig, and about a total of 0 months on restriction.

I just think he is a pathetic little creature, who thought he was much more than he is, and in the process fucked up.

Catch him, Humiliate Him (check) convict him, give him a token sentence, but make the felony stick so he can't vote.

151 Cite the official link to where David Kernell was institutionalized.

Put up or shut up.

152 What would andi do?

153 Let the authorities handle the kid....  I think we need to look at Daddy....  I wonder if he is personally known by Andy......

154 Dots?  What dots?

155

There won't be one 13times, only his own reference to himself.  There wouldn't be an official link, unless he confirmed it himself, or his parents confirmed it, because he was 9 and 13 at the times he mentions, himself.

 

156

The story linked on Drudge by the Knoxville News doesn't seem to know Mr Kernell's party affiliation.

157

148 Am I to understand that the Palin children are "fair game" but this 20 year old criminal is not?

Two wrongs don't make a right. What was done to Bristol et al was unconscionable. We don't have to sink that low. Let the other side be the haters. We're better than that.

146 If this is indeed the hacker, Palin would be well advised to forgive him and to ask that no punitive legal action be taken. Worth about another 3 million votes from parents of troubled teens across the country.

True. Just another reason to take a breath and draw back from demanding the draconian punishment of a badly screwed-up kid.

158 I'm gonna make him toss my salad

159

Most kids I knew who got sent off to an institution were mostly victims of shitty parents passing the buck.  Perfectly normal kids getting fucked over by shitty parents.

Eventualy (I'm not saying this is the case) those perfectly normal kids (almost all males) got made insane by being treated as insane.

160 The story linked on Drudge by the Knoxville News doesn't seem to know Mr Kernell's party affiliation


SHOCKED I SAY SHOCKED !!!

161 I warned you about those rich white people.

162 158 I'm gonna make him toss my salad

With or without the Man Mayo LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

163 Rubico has crossed the rubicon.

164

"What would andi do?"

Oh, God, don't get him thinking!  AROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

165

All I know is, all over the country right now there are hairy-armpitted chicks furiously diddling their clits and bare-chested boys frantically pulling their peckers while dreaming of this brave, patriotic young lad flying on angel's wings through their thrown open wide windows and into their bony, waiting arms.

Obama '08, cocksucker!

166 For the sake of the argument, what if something embarrassing * had been found? Would everyone be as willing to let the kid off lightly? *even something as innocent as "Will see you at 8:00, Todd. Really looking forward to tonight, bring the wine." Lame but the best I could do.

167 "For your illegal intrusion into Gov. Palin's e-mail account and theft of data therein, I sentence you to no less than five years in a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass Dork Me Up The Squeakhole prison."

Fixed. Sounds better now.

But of course, it won't happen. As our Fearless Leaders predicts, he'll play the crazy card and skate.

168 Here.

169 Um, Ace. This is a kid with mental health issues. He's in a whole lot of trouble with the law. That's probably enough. And wickedpinto is quite right ... slamming a dumb 20 year old for making a terrible mistake, when his life sounds like it sucked before he got to know the friendly folks at the USSS and FBI is overkill.

170 I do believe they play chess in prison.  Kernell will be playing the role of queen, then pawned off to other prisoners who will repeatedly penetrate the hole in his rear defenses.

171

The difference between the Palins and this joker is the fact he chose to insert himself into the presidential election by violating one of the candidate's privacy.

A bit different than the daughter of someone who happens to be running for office.

172 The Knoxvillle paper story also quotes the following as the gospel:

"The break-in of Palin's private account is especially significant because Palin sometimes uses non-government e-mail to conduct state business. the Associated Press reported."

All the more reason to take what we can from this kid:  There was absolutely nothing incriminating in the email account.  He proves this whole line from the AP isn't fact, but is instead a made-up bag of shit.  If anyone can prove that she wasn't conducting State business through her Yahoo account, it's this kid... and he seems to say she wasn't.

173

So the request comes out of Tennessee and funnily goes through a Chicago server and winds up in Alaska, what a miraculous system Al Gore created.

While I sometimes try to be lenient with youthful indiscretions, this conduct has crossed the line. I wonder if the kid's father is one of Obama's operatives who received Gov Palin's social security number and other personal information that was reported about two weeks ago, when the Obamathugs went into Alaska for dirt?

Anyway, expect Michael Moore to film a movie homage to this thug.

If the kid thinks he's been depressed before, he doesn't know the half of what's coming down the pike if he's down the deed. And if as AP reported it's emailed the perp, and those emails are found on his hard drive, or in his email accounts, well, I hope the AP 'reporters' incriminates itself enough to be co conspirator(s) with this creep. That would be a twofer.

I also hope there is incriminating Obama campaign emails as well. That would be sweet. I hope there's alot of sweating going on in the Obamanation campaign headquarters, cause they haven't put out a statement condemning this to date. 

 

 

174

Axelrod is known for operating in this gray area, part idealist, part hired muscle. It is difficult to discuss Axelrod in certain circles in Chicago without the matter of the Blair Hull divorce papers coming up. As the 2004 Senate primary neared, it was clear that it was a contest between two people: the millionaire liberal, Hull, who was leading in the polls, and Obama, who had built an impressive grass-roots campaign. About a month before the vote, The Chicago Tribune revealed, near the bottom of a long profile of Hull, that during a divorce proceeding, Hull's second wife filed for an order of protection. In the following few days, the matter erupted into a full-fledged scandal that ended up destroying the Hull campaign and handing Obama an easy primary victory. The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had "worked aggressively behind the scenes" to push the story.

Some things never change.

175 I mean, for the love of God, one of Biden's sons is a lobbyist with ties to Obama and the press won't touch that?

176 I would recommend a little restraint here as well, mostly because we don't know if he is guilty.  Also, it seems to me that many of us are pretty disgusted at the slime being thrown by the left and msm (but I repeat myself) at the Palins.  I am aware that the analogy breaks down as the Palins committed no (alleged) crimes.  Still, aren't we better than the loony left?  By all means condemn the act in no uncertain terms, but what good does trashing an ignorant 20 year old do for our side (other than the obvious, which is to provide an outlet for an apparently impressive amount of anger) ?  Peace.

Doc

P.S.  just saw your post Ace.  By no means should the Palin kids have been fair game.  We ARE better than they are.

177

I still think he should do time, and be humiliated funky chicken.

I Want, I REALLY WANT to see him in court, broken down in tears, and apologizing to SaraCudda as he pisses and shits himself.

I can just understand how it could happen, that doesn't mean I have any forgiveness for the mistake he made, he has to pay for the fuck up .

178 The pansy's a student at Tennessee.  No wonder the New Pennsylvania State University Nittally Lions kicked their sissy asses in the Outback Bowl after the '06 season.

179 Does anyone have ANY doubt that Obama was behind this? It's just like the Ryan Divorce records, and everything else he's done. Cheap, sleazy, corrupt.

What we need to do is find the link between Kernell (if he is the guy) and Obama's campaign. Indicting Obama for this along with the Logan Act is the only game-changer I can think of.

527's need to get on this right away, and flat out accuse Obama of doing it as part of his pattern -- of dirty Chicago politics. God Knows McCain would rather be a gentleman than win.

It is potentially a game changer since it crystallizes all the things people don't like about Obama -- his above the law entitlement.

180 Oh, oh nord, now you've gone and done it; you're cruising for red caps.

181 Assuming all of this is correct, and this whacko creep is the guilty party then I hope the Feds go after him full force.  I'm delighted he's over 18 and can be prosecuted as an adult.  That said, I'm not thrilled with all the rooting for him to be sodomized in prison.  Prison is supposed to be an unpleasant experience in being deprived of freedom, privacy, and any sense of control.  We don't formally sentence people to also be raped by their fellow criminals, and frankly I don't want to see the tougher predators getting a chance to amuse themselves with the weaker criminals.  Prison is supposed to be bad for the tough guys too, not an opportunity to indulge their violent tendencies while they wait to get another crack at the people outside the walls. 

182 David Kernell is a legal adult, not a child.

We have 18 year old men getting their asses shot off in Iraq but Kernell/b/ skates because mommy didn't hug him enough?

Throw the book at him.

183 Obama also stood aside while the same shit happened to jack ryan in the general Jackstraw.

184 <<If this is indeed the hacker, Palin would be well advised to forgive him and to ask that no punitive legal action be taken.>>

Nah, you got to present a tough front on (politically motivated) identity crime.

Have him plead guilty, with some doubled monetary penalty to pay for cost of the investigating and prosecuting the crime, with the second half of the penalty going to McCain/Palin's campaign (that his Democrat parents will undoubtably end up paying -- how sweet that would be), plus suspended sentences with probation to prevent reoccurance. 

Compassion with a twist, shaken not stirred.

185

That we're all going to fly to Tenn., drag him out of his house, and hang him?

You act like that's all bad or something

186

Well, the little cocksucker is a pawn now.  Off with his head.  I wonder if any other accounts of his used "popcorn" as the pw???

We need to see if Daddy ever mentioned business to his son, no?

187 and the video of him pissing and shitting himself in court drfredc

188 @148: Am I to understand that the Palin children are "fair game" but this 20 year old criminal is not?
Not that I have any great desire to tangle with the big guy, but the fact is that the Palin children are not fair game.  I do not accept the authority of those who suggest that they are.  As for the 20 year old criminal, he is certainly fair game to the authorities.  His father is fair game, ironically, for having devoted himself to pursuing political office since at least 1975 while he had a vulnerable child at home who needed him.

I am glad that some here see the enormous political potential of Palin calling State Representative Kernell and saying something along the lines of "tell your son I forgive him.  I hope that he learns something from the consequences that are sure to come."  And forever after, Palin will have the moral high ground on any privacy issue.

189

slamming a dumb 20 year old for making a terrible mistake

a mistake is not putting your blinker on when making a turn, this was no mistake. This was a serious criminal act.

190

For the sake of the argument, what if something embarrassing * had been found? Would everyone be as willing to let the kid off lightly?

He found nothing embarrassing or incriminating so what does he do, he publishes personal contact information on Sarah's entire extended family including Bristol's cell phone number.  This is to encourage the other Obamatons to harrass them into submission.  This kid is a first rate douche. 

The only way he gets off easy is if he leads us to a bigger fish.  He needs to be detained immediately before people can start corroborating their stories.

191 The break-in of Palin’s private account is especially significant because Palin sometimes uses non-government e-mail to conduct state business.

Okay, has this been confirmed?  I keep seeing this but I have yet to read the source for that. 

192

I'm not sure when there is a pattern of it happening over and over and over again, standing aside is the correct term, Wickedpinto.

As Ace said, this feels way too much like enemy action.

For all those upset about hammering this young adult, he's not a child, remember who started this. He did.  If you don't fight back you are asking for it to be repeated.  This shit needs to stop.

193

Catch him, Humiliate Him (check) convict him, give him a token sentence, but make the felony stick so he can't vote.

The kid seems like a pathetic loser, but an example still should be made of him. He knew what he was doing was wrong, and he did it with the intention of disrupting the Mccain/Palin campaign. Which is worse in some ways than if he was just going to steal credit card info from her. If he gets let off, then it'll be a cyberwar between the parties. Hell there might already be one going on.

194 Do you think he really meant to hack into her e-mail account?  The method by which he got in to the account is pretty dumb and unsophisticated.  I think he was screwing around and got lucky and stupidly thought "oh fuck, this is sooo cool."  He shouldn't have done it, and how could he think he would get away with doing it to a VP candidate?
He seems more troubled than anything else.  He could be rehabilitated.  Man, just think of all the dumb things you did when you were 19 or 20, or the people in your family have done or friends.  My brother is now an engineer, but one time he got drunk and fell of the second floor balcony and broke his tailbone!  Even smart people do stupid things.  Oh he also used to steal roadsigns and use them to decorate his room. 
This guy should be punished, but I don't think he should go to prison.
And I think it makes some of you look really mean and spiteful to say these things about how he should be raped in prison.  Hopefully, Rachel or Keith will troll the comments section of this site like Bill O'Reilly does on Kos and pretend that they are official blog entries and embarrass you.

195

For all those upset about hammering this young adult, he's not a child, remember who started this. He did.  If you don't fight back you are asking for it to be repeated.  This shit needs to stop.

Exactly! I am so fucking sick of people in the Republican party rolling over and playing dead. They think they can play partisan politics with the Dems, but they will turn around and stab you in the back every single time. No more playing Dolly Doormat. It doesn't work.

196 I wonder if the "brothers" in prison will visit the "Kernell" so they can get their hands on some "white meat".

197

No arguments ya'all.  I just don't hate him.  I think he's a dipshit and should be punished.

I just can't react with a visceral dislike.

198 Let's take up a collection to give David Kernell, Barney Frank, Nick Denton, Joshua Michael Mellencamp, Markos Moulitsas al-Zuniga and Excitable Andi one-way first class tickets to Tehran. 

199 Lemmiwinks I agree. He needs to be nailed for this, if for no other reason than to discourage others from this kind of thing. It's not punishment, it's a consequence for an action. Let his mental stability angle play out in the courts. If he gets a light sentence because of it, I think it still discourages other idiots.

200 Oh, and by the way, he may be an idiot, but he's not retarded. His U.S. Chess Federation rating is 1913, which makes him a very strong amateur.

201

I wonder if the "brothers" in prison will visit the "Kernell" so they can get their hands on some "white meat".

Hey let's chill a little on the prison/ass-rape comments. I want the kid punished and made an example of, but he doesn't deserve to be sodomized. I think the prospect of any jailtime will be enough to scare his chess-loving ass away from any more politically-inspired 'pranks'.

202 hehe,  Creme o kernell.

203 I hope he gets assraped in the county lockup. No more fortunate son treatment for spoiled white rich kids!

That's the spirit!

204 I still think he should do time, and be humiliated funky chicken. I Want, I REALLY WANT to see him in court, broken down in tears, and apologizing to SaraCudda as he pisses and shits himself. I can just understand how it could happen, that doesn't mean I have any forgiveness for the mistake he made, he has to pay for the fuck up . Posted by: Wickedpinto at September 18, 2008 06:47 PM (ul7te) I'm in total agreement with that--the guy is in serious legal trouble of his own making. He's going to be a very sad dude before this is all through. And his parents are going to be poorer for the experience as well, unless they are such selfish sacks of shit that they make him pay for his defense all by himself. I'm only talking about the desire to hound him in addition to the legal issues he will deal with for many years to come.

205

I wonder what advice AP's attorneys are giving right now?

My guess is that if a warrant comes in the advice is 'comply'.  Otherwise, don't comply - and for the love of all that is holy, don't delete/lose anything.  That may rise to 'obstruction of justice' - destruction of evidence, and you were put on notice with the request.

206 and yeah, the calls for him to be raped? don't go all lockyear, OK? this kid did something bad and stupid. he didn't rape any kids or murder anybody.

207 "In the words of Emilio Estevez" are six words that I never want to see printed in that order ever again.

208 194 Do you think he really meant to hack into her e-mail account?  The method by which he got in to the account is pretty dumb and unsophisticated.  I think he was screwing around and got lucky and stupidly thought "oh fuck, this is sooo cool."  He shouldn't have done it, and how could he think he would get away with doing it to a VP candidate?
He seems more troubled than anything else.  He could be rehabilitated.  Man, just think of all the dumb things you did when you were 19 or 20, or the people in your family have done or friends.  My brother is now an engineer, but one time he got drunk and fell of the second floor balcony and broke his tailbone!  Even smart people do stupid things.  Oh he also used to steal roadsigns and use them to decorate his room. 
This guy should be punished, but I don't think he should go to prison.
And I think it makes some of you look really mean and spiteful to say these things about how he should be raped in prison.  Hopefully, Rachel or Keith will troll the comments section of this site like Bill O'Reilly does on Kos and pretend that they are official blog entries and embarrass you.

UMMM your boyfriend wants to play MINE THE HARBOR & Have you be his PillowBiter

209

Hmmm, discussion of this ADULT 20 yearold is starting to stir at Althouse in the comments. heh.

I do believe that this is begining to blow up in Team Obama's lap. 

And the great thing is that there was nothing there in the Palin email as confirmed by the hacker himself. 

Friday will be interesting in the office.

Rove you Magnificant Bastard!

210 Johnny

he said

" I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be,"

So while he was lucky at breaking through, he wasn't just idly curious or pulling, as AP is trying to rewrite it, a "prank"

211

All of the crap y'all are saying about my son is bullshit!  None of it is true, and you're all a bunch of liars!

 

David does NOT constantly lick the dog's ass!  He only does that when he forgets to take his meds.  And he and the dog do NOT go outside together and eat dog shit!  They usually go out separately.  And that rumor about him raping his mother - NOT TRUE!!!  She consented.  I have the video to prove it!  Now, that thing with the 4th-grader a couple of years ago, we settled that out of court, so there's no point bringing that up.

 

Why can't y'all just leave us alone?

212 I heard from an anonymous rawmuscleglutes source that it's not really pus running out of his nose, but another precious bodily fluid that kinda looks like pus from a distance.

213 Probably not a big enough fish to be incredibly useful, but it's better than nothing.

214 Q. What's the quickest way to a man's heart? A. The answer used to be, "Sarah Palin's fist," but from now on it will be "David Kernell's *ss."

215 Okay, I get it. I don't really want this kid to be ass-raped.

216

He will not make it to trial by the looks of him. He may get so depressed he may do the unthinkable.

 

217

Glenn Beck's covering it on his show now, of course he recorded it like 3 hours ago, and the universal outrage is there.

Focusing mostly on the silent consent of Obama in this situation.

218 Countdown until someone accuses him of being Trig's father....3....2...1

219

Okay, I get it. I don't really want this kid to be ass-raped.

Not even just a teensy, weensy tiny bit?  Like >< much even? A tad?

220 As an aside, I wonder how his roomates like all of this attention?  I am sure they enjoy spending their weekend talking to federal agents instead of looking for a kegger.

221 David knew exactly what he was doing, he intentionally broke into Palins email with the intent to harm Gov.Palin and do political injury to the McCain campaign.

Kernell then proceeded to 4chan where he and others distributed the stolen goods.

This is no prank. Toilet papering a house is a prank, dyeing the neighbors dog pink is a prank.

This did real and tangible harm to the US political process.


Let the assrapin' begin!

222 Am I to understand that the Palin children are "fair game" but this 20 year old criminal is not? No, Ace. You are to understand that even if you aren't lacking in human decency, there are others in the conservative movement who are not. Your long URL is in the mail. The difference between the Palins and this joker is the fact he chose to insert himself into the presidential election by violating one of the candidate's privacy. A bit different than the daughter of someone who happens to be running for office. Actually, this is incorrect; the entire Palin family has "veto power" over any office Governor Palin runs for. One of her daughters (I believe it was the younger teenager) nixed a Senate bid a few years ago. Whether the youngest kids had any idea how fierce and awful the publicity would be, they at least knew "on paper"--and consented. (Minors, yes: but it shows that Sarah and Todd are making family decisions on a family basis. I suspect that Todd was the one whose consent to this intrusion mattered the most.) Why is there this urge to crawl as deeply into the gutter as the Left has? To make ourselves look every bit as bad? Why?

223 While the sentiment is nice -- why the heck are so many on this blog warning "us" not to condemn the little shit before all the facts are in?  This is a moronblog, not a court of law.  We can condemn anyone we damn well please, with or without evidence. 

I'm ready to condemn David Kernell right now.  He's a pretentious little shit who can't write but insists on inflicting his illiterate jackoff fantasies of political violence on the Internet-reading masses.  He's an avowed Obama supporter.  His father is a Democrat state legislator, which in English means a crooked party hack. 

Sure, it's possible that some band of sinister Rovian operatives impersonated poor little Kernell and hacked Sarah Palin's email.  It's possible that the undead zombie Jack the Ripper killed Nicole Simpson -- but come on, folks.  This little shit is just the type to do this kind of political cyberstalking, and I'd bet real money he did it.  If it turns out he's innocent, then I'll apologize to the little shit.  In the meantime, CONDEMN AWAY!!!

224 Having fun with this, tools? This entire story is, of course, completely consistent with the following: [a] the fact that the BCAR Gang [Bush Rove Cheney Addington] ran any and every dicey email through the RNC White House account, instead of complying with the Presidential Records Act....because they are criminals, and as criminals they've learned to try to wipe down crime scenes the better to avoid leaving behind evidence of their crimes Governor Palin, being a devotee of President WaterBoy long before she became the vehicle that transports the ass that McMethuselah needs to stare at to keep the blood flowing into his cortex from the only area of his body its ever been proven to have worked with any degree of reliability, read of the Congressional investigations into the White House Obstruction Program [into a plan that almost surely is detailed in a file sitting inside one of Cheney's moron-sized safes], saw them apparently getting away with it, thought to herself- & no doubt talked to the First Tool: Cool- well if thats what they do in our nation's capital, it's good enough for Anchorage!] [3] Now wants to avoid the consequences of either producing for Alaska legislature oversight review the track of her own crimes, and as well the consequences of explaining why so many thousands of official emails are missing from her office [4] It's presents absolutely no problem for the BCAR Gang to order its DOJ to go investigate and arrest and charge entirely innocent persons- Democrats in particular- with crimes that never happened, as we've seen multiple times in Mississippi, in Michigan and in Sweet Homer, to name but a few- indeed David Yglesias lost his frickin job for NOT doing precisely that. [5] With the usual smooth efficiency of an investigative arm that has spent 7 years failing to pin the anthrax letters on anyone but a dead person they can't even prove ever came near the particular anthrax, I trust no one is expecting THIS investigation to be wrapped up before the election [6] Mind you, they are running low of guests and GTMO and you sure don't want to lose all the "interrogration skills" to rust from disuse If any Tool or User of Tools on this site can come up with even ONE utterly unambivalent FACT that proves even ONE of the elements of this supposition impossible, I promise to take my reality-based POV and never brighten this cesspool again. How's THAT for incentive, Tools? Good day, and good luck

225 I will believe that he's going to pay a legal price when I see it.

226

The "Enter" key is your friend Diderot's dog.

227

You must always adapt to the tactics of your oponent attila, thats just how it is.  When it's over you can apologize for what had to be done, but it was something that needed to be done.

Though I think a reduction in the ass-raping would probably serve us well.

228

#224

Diderot's dog,

 

Son you are seriously fucked in the head. Trust me on this one.

 

Dr. Phil

 

229 Diderot just C&P'd some post at kos or DU or escaton probably.

230 Just watch: the revelation of this loser's picture and name will be called a horrific violation of privacy and improper use of the internet.

231

"Expect him to play the crazy card to skate on all charges."

 

How come the dems always get to skate? Oh, yeah 'cuz if they had any brains they wouldn't be dems', sez Coulter.

 

Bet he has a tanning bed, too.

232

Why is there this urge to crawl as deeply into the gutter as the Left has? To make ourselves look every bit as bad? Why?

Because the left has crawled in the gutter and they haven't really been called on this by the media or even most pundits. Their gutter efforts do have an effect though - possibly even enough to swing the election. So there's a natural urge on the right to fight fire with fire. I think it's the wrong thing to do, but honestly my main quibble is that I just don't think it'll work for the republicans.

233 Ace: And every derogatory tip I get about your background, I will publish. gp: I'm going to play thru that chess game he posted and see why he's so proud of it. Jack Bauer's Evil Brother: His U.S. Chess Federation rating is 1913, which makes him a very strong amateur. That miserable game he posted counts as a derogatory rumor! Here it is. From his "blog". from 2003, he's black 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 e6 3. Bg5 c5 4. d5 Be7 5. d6 Bf8* 6. e4 h6 7. Bxf6 Qxf6 8. c3 e5 9. Nf3 Qxd6 10. Qxd6 Bxd6 11. Bc4 Nc6 12. Nh4 Ne7 13. Nf5 Nxf5 14. exf5 Bc7 15. h3 h5 16. O-O b6 17. Nd2 Bb7 18. b4 d5 19. Bb5+ Ke7 20. f3 a6 21. Be2 c4 22. a4 h4 23. Rae1 b5 24. a5 Kf6 25. Bd1 Rhe8 26. Re3 Rad8 27. f4 e4 28. Rf2 Kxf5 29. Bg4+ Kf6 30. f5 d4 31. cxd4 Rxd4 32. Nf1 Rd3 33. Ree2 Rb3 34. Ne3 Rxb4 35. Bh5 Bg3 36. Ng4+ Kg5 37. Bxf7 Rf8 38. Bg6 Bxf2+ 39. Rxf2 c3 40. Ne3 Rb1+ 41. Kh2 b4 42. f6 Kxg6 43. fxg7 Kxg7 44. Re2 b3 45. Nc4 Rff1 46. g3 Rfh1+ 47. Kg2 e3# 0-1 It's a pathetic game. He may be 1900+ now but, at the time, he was a 12-1300 player. It's not that he played so terrible in this game, his opponent was worse. He snapped up a weak pawn, exchanged off into a winning endgame. It's a completely unremarkable game and to post it on a blog and leave it up for five years says something sad. *he might be losing after this move (or his 4th as it allowed white's fifth) , but I'm not interested enough to find a winning line for white.

234

Diderot's dog is right!  This is all a conspiracy!  Dave's just a soft-headed mamma's boy!  He's not a danger to anyone!  It's BushCheney who are dangerous!  Leave us alone!

235

223 While the sentiment is nice -- why the heck are so many on this blog warning "us" not to condemn the little shit before all the facts are in?  This is a moronblog, not a court of law.  We can condemn anyone we damn well please, with or without evidence. 

Dittos.  This ain't the Senate.

236

Hotair post:

Shep just looking at his blackberry and reading as he threw to commercial that this was “breaking” (the whole state rep. son thing)…. I see Allah posted this a full 2 hours ago. Haha. Shep even looked up to the camera at the last second before commercial and held up his blackberry, as if to show off how on top of the breaking news he truly is.

RightWinged on September 18, 2008 at 7:27 PM

237 I mean, this a "man", so he should pay the penalty. I'm ok with seeing him go to white collar prison, the kind of conjugal visits and the like. I'm not ok with him simply getting off because he's an idiot and emotional retard. He broke the law in a big way.

238 Holy shit, Arthur. I have seen some ruthless shit in my life but criticizing the guys chess game! You sir, are a scamp!

239 snmccain hat it at about 1 o'clock.

240

Do you think he really meant to hack into her e-mail account?  The method by which he got in to the account is pretty dumb and unsophisticated.  I think he was screwing around and got lucky and stupidly thought "oh fuck, this is sooo cool." 

Did you bother reading the details, you cow fellating retard?  He admitted intentionally hacking her account through a proxy, reading her e-mail, and changing her password with the stated hope of finding something politically incriminating.

He looked up her personal details and used them to retreive her password- and it wasn't on the first try.  How exactly does one do that by accident?

He intentionally hacked the account of a government official, which contained both personal and official material for the purpose of doing the victim harm.  He committed a felony.  Can't do the time?  Don't do the crime.  Fuck him.

241

Here it is. From his "blog". from 2003, he's black Posted by: Arthur at September 18, 2008 07:28 PM (DW8FY)

Racist!

242 Given his mental problems, probably the best and fairest outcome, too.

He didn't hack into her account and post it to the internet because he was depressed. He did it because he is an ASSHOLE!

243 http://www.twigsdigs.com/stuff/sideshow/arrest.htm Talk about Clown College this kid is a career criminal. Check out the link!

244

Why is there this urge to crawl as deeply into the gutter as the Left has? To make ourselves look every bit as bad? Why?

Until he took it upon himself to violate the privacy of someone under Secret Service protection he was the anonymous child of an obscure Tennessee Poltician.  Now he's an infamous moron.  This is of his doing.

I agree that wishing forced sodomy should be reserved for the very worst sorts of violent criminals.  Beyond that, I hope the kid gets the maximum.  If that's a felony - and the subsequent disclosure of said felony on any job application he completes for the rest of his life - then so be it.

I hope it was worth it.

245 The morality on this involves your notion of the timeframe.

If this one a one turn game (they do something, then we do something, then it's done), we'd have the option of being "better".  Our restraint would have no negative (or positive) future consequences.

But it's not.  Politics is a game that keeps going and going and going.  Opponents influence one another's strategies.  Acting weak and forgiving influences their future moves.  By showing that there is a cost associated with attacking us, we decrease the chance that they will consider it worthwhile to attack us.

If you really want to make politics a friendlier pursuit, you should actively advocate strong reciprocation of nasty attacks because it makes your opponent more likely to be friendly the next round and frees you up to do the same.

246

Spreading

http://www.timesoftheinternet.com/4876.html

 

247 While the sentiment is nice -- why the heck are so many on this blog warning "us" not to condemn the little shit before all the facts are in? This is a moronblog, not a court of law. We can condemn anyone we damn well please, with or without evidence. Dittos. This ain't the Senate. Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 18, 2008 07:31 PM (wgLRl) Condemn, sure. Cheer for him to be raped? Um, no.

248

Hey diderots dog, don't you know you should never go "full retard"

BTW, what is the capitol of Alaska?

249 Question for TN State Rep. Kernell...

Where the fuck were you when you son was dealing with his bouts of depression?  Were you with him, trying to help him deal with it, or were too fucking busy campaigning for public office, neglecting you wife and kids....

Republicans want to know, asshole...and don't give the fucking standard answer of the Donkeycrat party...

250 I'm not buying the "let's go easy on him because he's got issues" argument.

He's an adult.  He (allegedly) committed a federal felony.  He deserves to be punished.  Whether he's incarcerated in a prison or a mental institution makes no difference to me.

I'm not sure about the conspiratorial angle, either.  I read this as a spoiled 20-year old who was desperate for attention and acted alone.  Now he's got more attention than he bargained for.

251 1. Merely posting or stating that you want the kid assraped isn't going to make it happen, okay? If you think it does, then you need to be institutionalized.

2.  Assrape is a modern day euphemism for doing some time in custody which is entirely appropriate in this case.

3.  LET THE ASSRAPIN' BEGIN!!!

252
@242 Exactly! I could understand if he is suicidal or drinks too much. WTF does depression have to do with hacking somebody's email?

@224 Diderot's dog, put the penguin down and hit the enter key.

253 "apologize later" Later, he may be dead. The guy deserves to be punished, ok. But depression is an ugly, ugly disease. If he really has been institutionalized (and this isn't just some exaggeration on his part), the guy is seriously fucked up. To be locked up at 9 and 13 is a sign of some real problems. The treatment of Palin and her kids has made me madder than I have ever been about an election, but I don't want to be a part of anything that could end this guy's death. I'm a scold. So be it. If I'm unwelcome here because of that, so be it.

254 He's going to be a meme on /b/ for being v&'d by the Feds

I don't think there's a fate worse than that.

255

Methinks it's well past time for DD to join the likes of Larry the Useless and Tom Mary Mike Jersey whatever the hell else it called itself in troll oblivion.

256 For all those upset about hammering this young adult, he's not a child, remember who started this. He did. If you don't fight back you are asking for it to be repeated. This shit needs to stop. That's why we're making jokes about ass-raping! TO ENSURE JUSTICE, AND DEFEND DEMOCRACY! Hooray! I'm perfectly willing to "adapt," Wicked. But there is a point (see "liberty vs. security") wherein one has compromised principle to the point that there is nothing left to defend. One is as morally bankrupt as the opposition.

257

gran, I think that most of those "lets go easy on him" statements you are referencing state no such thing.

I just don't hate the stupid little twerp, Maet doesn't want him raped, and same with Funky Chicken.

We still want him in jail and shitting his pants in court.

We just don't hate him.

We hate Obama, or at least I do.

But not this pathetic little Tyke.

258 I think Junior is a minor league dickhead who deserves a second chance.  The AP?  Notsomuch.

259 This looks like a younger version of an uber-queer Leif Garret. Then again Leif Garret was uber-ghey, even if he wasn't actually queer.

However I'm sure this kid gets kicked in the can and kisser by wild Balony Ponies daily.

260 At the very least Emilio needs to tape his butt cheeks together.

261 WP, I don't hate him but I sure do hate what he did and I'm sure that if he found anything in her private email that could have been damaging he would have used it to try and derail her campaign. How angry would you have been had that happened? And, just curious, when you were his age and in the Marines and breaking bitches around the world, did anyone refer to you as a "little tyke"?

262 Somebody get a screencap before he deletes his barebackcity.com profile.

263 "Whether he's incarcerated in a prison or a mental institution makes no difference to me."

I've sent people to both, and I'd rather send him to the hospital--since if there actually are grounds to forensically commit him, he can be kept there indefinitely, and most likely with greater restrictions than in prison.

264

It's actually where I got it.

There was a Staff who was an 04, and he hated us 28's (28's are tech's, 04's are paper pushers) because he somehow always ended up working with 28's or 59's or 63's or whatever, and he hated a bunch of boots talking down to him.

So he would never talk to anyone under the rank of Sgt with anything remotely like respect.

265 I was expecting some kind of smart-mouth, script kiddie hacker wanna-be with his pants down to his knees and his hat on backwards. Turns out he's kinda screwed up and a type-B wuss. 90 days, $10,000, 1 year probation. He'll cry in the court room.

266 but will he piss and shit his britches mean old dad?

267

# 249  Question for TN State Rep. Kernell...

Where the fuck were you when you son was dealing with his bouts of depression?  Were you with him, trying to help him deal with it, or were too fucking busy campaigning for public office, neglecting you wife and kids....

Republicans want to know, asshole...and don't give the fucking standard answer of the Donkeycrat party...

We are great parents!  Yeah, I know he seems like a scumbag, but it's society's fault.  All the other kids were mean to him because of his unusual attraction to the dog, then that thing with my wife, then the thing with the 4th-grader... well, we thought the kids would like him better if we tied him up in a burlap bag and let them urinate on him, but they just kept picking and picking on him.  We were at our wits end so we turned the entire problem over to the psychiatrists.  Then, when he returned home, we felt like there was nothing we could do but give him the drugs and keep him locked in his room.  Best for everybody.  Can't have an embarrassment like him on the campaign trail.  Then, when he was old enough, we shipped him off to college.  We did the best we could!

268 To:state your name@gmail.com

From: spalin@yahoo.com


Last night was incredible, I think I touched the face of God! I'm sorry but
i'm really going to be busy for the next couple of months. Please don't forget me.

Your f**kbuddy forever!!!!!!!

Moose lips

269

anyways jack, he had a whole list of them, kinda like Dr. Cox from Scrubs, twerp tyke kid sonny, shit like that.

He wasn't really a dick, he just wanted to make sure that he wasn't gonna take any shit from some fucking boot.

270 The kid needs punishment, maybe a date with Andrew Sullivan might serve.

271 How many packs of smokes will this little shit bring for the second or third rounds of  fun at Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison?

272

Random Thing.

If Gov. Palin hadn’t been using a consumer-level Yahoo! account (more than one, actually) this crime wouldn’t have happened because the hacker exploited the service’s “forgot-my-password” mechanism,

More thn one actually?  Did the AP Prick just put the Kernell up for more than one charge?  And proving premeditation and malice based on repeat offense?

273 "The kid needs punishment, maybe a date with Andrew Sullivan might serve."

After a date with Drew Sully and friends, ones RAWMUSCLGUTES  could end up looking like rancid ground-beef. Let the punishment fit the crime I say. In this particular case how many can fit inside the punishment without Anal Ease?

274

Eh, he's just down the street from me.  I no longer feel safe.

I'm just glad he's no longer a "hipocrit" and I hope he no longer suffers from "apocoliptic visions".  He'll see enough of the end times all up in cell block six.

275

Not Andi, Bruce Villanche, or harvey Firestein.

276 Hopefully this kid will gain trustee status very quickly once incarcerated, and get a job in the kitchen tossing-salads and mixing meat.

277 And I think it makes some of you look really mean and spiteful to say these things about how he should be raped in prison.

Think of it as a pragmatic application of "social justice".  You're all for "social justice", right?

278 "Hopefully this kid will gain trustee status very quickly once incarcerated, and get a job in the kitchen tossing-salads and mixing meat."


On second thought who are we kidding?

This kid will probably end up the next host of the "MTV Music Awards", or the next editor of "The Atlantic".

279

Andi could show him some pictures of his ass, as sort of a homo foreplay, before beating the shit out of him and raping him.

This kid probably knows his way around a rest stop already, I'm sure his liberal Dem parents are plenty fucked in the head.

280

EVEN IF the kid's got mental/emotional problems, that doesn't let the moonbats who grinned like masturbating hobos when they learned of the hacking.

THE SAME people who went batshit over the FISA stuff and its supposed invasion of privacy issues went absolutely jizzy with delight over this.

We have a generation of brownshirts in our midst. 

 

 

 

281 Hook-Book, Cuff-Stuff.

282

This kid probably knows his way around a rest stop already, I'm sure his liberal Dem parents are plenty fucked in the head.

It's not our fault!  We've suspected for a long time that one of his teachers in grammar school was conservative!  We're going to sue the school district.

283 So I just checked all the major parts of CNN (main page, politics, legal) and what a shock, there's not a mention of the anything to do with the this.

284
He clearly exhibited expressions of guilt, so he shouldn't get an insanity defense (that succeeds).

But I recall those thugs who slashed GOTV tires... they were related to a legislator too, and they skated with a slap on the wrist.

If you are connected, there are things you can do to ensure the right judge gets this case.  If that happens, this kid will skate.   If a Republican had done this to Obama, it would be treated a lot differently (can you imagine major news orgs publishing Obama's kid's cell number? or private photos?).

285 When ol' Davy Boy hits the Big House, there will be new meaning to "Tennessee Volunteer" and "Tennessee Waltz". Heh.

286 This punk's English teachers should definitely be facing some hard time.

287 Ace: that is an old Picture of David Kernell.  Here is a more recent one.
By the way, CanadianGuy and carbon_footprint from Hot Air were on this lead 24 hours ago!

288 I just hope the schmuck doesn't turn out to be another John Hinckley.

289 Mr. Obvious sez:  "Later, he may be dead. The guy deserves to be punished, ok. But depression is an ugly, ugly disease. If he really has been institutionalized (and this isn't just some exaggeration on his part), the guy is seriously fucked up. To be locked up at 9 and 13 is a sign of some real problems."

HUH?  I mean fucking HUH?  We shouldn't condemn this little shit for committing a, y'know, crime because it might shake his delicate sanity?  He doesn't seem to have spent much time thinking about the effect of publishing personal information on the Palin family.  When he thought he could commit a, y'know, crime and hide behind his forum alias his delicate little psyche seemed to be in fine shape.  But his inherent fuckupitude got him caught and now we should treat the little shit with velvet gloves?

Screw that.  Screw that with the barbed cock of Satan!

I am fucking sick and tired of these lefty shits pulling crap like this, spewing their obscene filth at protests, trying to, y'know, murder delegates at the Republican convention -- and never suffering any penalties.  Maybe if they understood that actions have consequences they might not act like shrieking shit-flinging howler monkeys.  Unless and until they do start behaving like sane human beings, I don't see why we shouldn't give this little shit the same treatment he and his fellow "brave truth-speakers" have given the Palin family.

290 Are these two suitable for ass-rape? http://tinyurl.com/3uzpfm

291

>stoke so much anger in the community to be "organized" that the agitator does not need to be a "leader" -- that members of the community will step forward to be "leaders" themselves, and take whatever action is necessary.

Not unlike autonomous terror cells-

Yeah, I totally went there. Suck it, Obamatrons.

292 @WP

I was referring to posts 73 & 143.  Maybe I read too much into the others.

And no, I don't condone ass-rape.

293 Are these two suitable for ass-rape?

If they have an asshole, they are suitable.  At first I thought you linked to an old murder. There was a similar multiple murder in Florida and also in South/North Carolina over some damn game

294

So, what say we go "leak" the AP payroll database and prank us some banking information...

295

Voulez vous ass-rape avec moi, c'est soi?

merci beaucoup

296 I think there might be some fudge-packin' in this boy's future.

297 Nothing will happen here.

Nothing ever happens when a Republican is on the snotty end of the Johnson Rod.

298 Institutionalized at 9? Either repeatedly abused by parents, or discovered awfully early he is a transexual-to-be.  This is 1 miserable kid.  I'd put him on suicide watch.

299

Cool gran,

I'm not a touchy type, I was just trying to clarify a few positions as best a could.

I'm quite well schooled in how easy it is to be misinterpreted with a slip of the tongue.

I'm Mean "I break bitches," Who could have construed that as something egotistical and masoginistic?  I Mean, WHAT?!

300 This kids face looks like it's just beggin' for some Oil-Of-O'Layed.

301

Institutionalized at 9? Either repeatedly abused by parents, or discovered awfully early he is a transexual-to-be.  This is 1 miserable kid.  I'd put him on suicide watch.

Hey, what Wavey-Davey did was healthy!  The crime he committed was no worse than the crimes you republicans would commit for McCain!  Sorry, my computer's not working, otherwise I'd come up with some examples of the crimes republicans committed for McCain.  But just wait!  As soon as my computer comes back up I'll post links to those heinous crimes!

302

You're looking at a long stint in the Federal lockup, but seriously son have you thought about a career in the FBI?

303 Just a suggestion, but if we want to avoid being painted with the same brush the leftists have been painting themselves, maybe we should focus only on what was done and who did it rather than engaging in exactly the kind of nastiness that the Kos kids (and others) did to the Palins. Yes, the kid may be guilty, but he clearly has some issues. Driving him over the edge will not vindicate the Palins. It will only feed the leftist feeding frenzy.

304 http://web.archive.org/web/20021130232259/http://www.mikekernell.com/ Welcome to MikeKernell.com! This site is still being developed, but I hope you will find it useful. Just as my home phone number is (901) 454-1113, and my home address is 3583 Allandale Lane, Memphis, TN 38111, this is my home address on the Web. It will be used for multiple purposes.

305

OUCH!

306 As a Concerned Lifelong Conservative Christian Who Just happens To have A Blog That A Supposedly Repubatable Conservative Magazine Decides To Ride Like My Cock A Cock And Link To, I find it disturbing you folks would find the time to beat off  up this hung young, intriguing gentleman. Obviously he is disturbed and just because his father is a lifelong, demon democrat fatcat, moneygrubbing, whoremonger it shouldn't give us any reason for vitriol against the miss mis-guided cum-buckets youth of this nation.

Even if his favorite movies are Eyes Glued Wide Shut and Meat Meet Joe Joe's Black.

I cannot bring myself to vote for McCain, because I'm freaky like dat, and like androgenous cabin boy looking boy-meat..

307 That andrew sullivan comment makes me think of Mr. Garrison writing a romance novel.

308

#304  Charles Bronson

No, seriously, don't blame me.  It's all my wife's fault.  She's the one who "partied" with Dave and his high school friends.  It's just that he has problems, and she thought it would help to get to "know" him better.   I warned her that it would lead to trouble, but she wouldn't listen.  Don't blame me.

309

Go easy on this moonbat? The second after he got a slap on the wrist he'd be on his I-Pod gloating about how he beat the rap.

We'll go easy on him when the Obamabots and the DemSM go easy on the Palin family.

I hope they're showing this creep clips of prison yard fights until he wets himself and rats out the big fish from the Obama camp and DemSM who were in on this.

He sounds to me like a Michael Crook - Jason Fortuny sociopath who gets his thrills in using the internet to ruin lives and then tries to hide behind his own sob story to avoid the consequences

 

310 This little Democrat vixen say she's just talked to Mike Kernell, and as of 6:21pm CST no one from the FBI has talked to either him or his son.

Of course, she would say just that.

Leave David alone!

311 Hey "Anonymous" David Kernell, we're gonna ruin your life…for the lulz!

"Lulz" is these monosyllabic morons word for Schadenfreude.

312 Everytime a stiff uncut piece of dark Mandig-linga-ling man-meat impacts your allready over-impacted and infected tonsils David, I hope you think about us, and all the LULZ>

-Respectfully Yours,

The LOl Can I Haz CheezBurger Katz.

313

That andrew sullivan comment makes me think of Mr. Garrison writing a romance novel.

 

HAHAHAHA!

314 I heard that when he was 9 he was committed for depression because there were only 39 Heaven's Gate cultists that commit mass suicide at their compound, and he was distressed by the fact that 39 is not a prime number. He was in a catatonic state mumbling two more or two less.Number eighteen in 1988, Charlie Babbitt squeezed and pulled and hurt my neck in 1988.

315 Trimegistus: I hear you. Actually, I think this thread is pretty funny. But, once I heard about the depression, I lost any interest in digging up more dirt or making this guy's life any worse than it's about to become. Joking about ass-raping here at Ace's is one thing, but publishing his home phone is something quite different. The guy's obviously a douche, but I don't want him dead. Even if you do, there is probably someone in his life who doesn't. Depressives have very strange reactions, and the people around them often pay for it. Now, if the guy is just some drama queen and the institutionalizations are just made up B.S. in some Beauchampian egotrip, I'll buy the rope to fry this clown. Until then, I'll lurk and laugh, but I'm not going to add to this. And, if you doubt my bona fides, please remember that it was only a few days ago I contributed the poem "Obama Has A Purty Mouth" to the elevated discourse here.

316

@Posted by: serr8d at September 18, 2008 09:47 PM (GQ8b3)

This is from that blog linky you just posted. The dad doesn't email because he hates computers and is computer illiterate. Now that's hilarious considering the havoc the left's wreaking on McCain for his lack of computer emailing-ness.

If David does turn out to be involved in hacking, Mike Kernell had nothing to do with it. Anyone who knows Kernell, knows he doesn't even email because he hates computers and is computer illiterate. That's the irony. Everyone who knows Mike is chuckling because he hates computers.

317 Not chess. Poker.

318

Leave me out of this, Ace. I was innocent.

319

Jill 181 wins the thread.

This jerkoff deserves to turn in a long stint in an unpleasant and humiliating prison. But prisoners have the right to be protected from crimes same as we do. Let's not have rape jokes in here, please.

320

#318  Dr. Samuel A. Mudd

Leave me out of this, Ace. I was innocent.

That's what I keep saying!

321

Everyone who knows Mike is chuckling because he hates computers.

That's right!  I hate computers!  Never use 'em.  Hate 'em.  Wouldn't be caught dead using one.  Leave me alone!

322 So we all agree, he's a homo?

323 Being in a position to know, clinical depression is total biatch.  It's still no excuse for acting like a douchebag, though.  If this kid or his dad try and pull it as an excuse for his behavior, I'm hoping any judge/jury involved calls bullshiat on it.

324 I haven't seen him in action but I hear he likes to cut the soap off the rope...

325

”(from the article)
The break-in of Palin’s private account is especially significant because Palin sometimes uses non-government e-mail to conduct state business”

Based on what? A rumor?

From the Idiot soon to be know as Bubba’s BBF.

“I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family

And this Candidate for the Darwin award changed the password to “Popcorn”  and the code in the post belonged to David “Kernell”.

“Popcorn”   “Kernell”.

Who What and why

Who: David “Kernell”.

What: hack a privet email account copied all info and posted on the web

Why: “there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped”

“I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be”

“if this shit ever got to the FBI I was fucked”

Dang well he did get 1 out of 3 right!

326

Not unlike autonomous terror cells-

Yeah, I totally went there. Suck it, Obamatrons.

Yep, it's just like Sudden Jihadi Syndrome. The islamic fundies don't need orders from OBL just like these brownshirts don't need Obama giving them marching orders.

327

Check out this punk's favorite flash videos.

http://tinyurl.com/6rtt3j

He's one serious pervert.

Do I get bonus points for using a TinyUrl, Ace?

328

You know, this depression/institutionalized thing has worn thin already.

If you read Kos and DU's commenters, you'll agree hat ALL of them appear to be depressed, crazed and/or have been institutionalized at one time or another.

In fact I would say mental disorders are necessary AND sufficient conditions to become a member in good standing of the Fraternal Order of the Moonbat.

So if we cut Kernell slack for having some "issues" we simply set ourselves uyup to exonerate in advance all the shit the Kossacks and DerrrU's have yet to dump on the Palins, McCains and us.

Fuck'em.  If war is what they want, war is what they will get.

(Meanwhile, truckloads of K-Y are already being rushed to federal prisons in the Tennessee area.)

 

 

 

329 I would recommend a little restraint here as well, mostly because we don't know if he is guilty.  Also, it seems to me that many of us are pretty disgusted at the slime being thrown by the left and msm (but I repeat myself) at the Palins.  I am aware that the analogy breaks down as the Palins committed no (alleged) crimes.  Still, aren't we better than the loony left?  By all means condemn the act in no uncertain terms, but what good does trashing an ignorant 20 year old do for our side (other than the obvious, which is to provide an outlet for an apparently impressive amount of anger) ?  Peace.

Doc

P.S.  just saw your post Ace.  By no means should the Palin kids have been fair game.  We ARE better than they are.

330

“Do you think he really meant to hack into her e-mail account?” 

Seriously, are you an Idiot?

His own words K!

“I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be”

“I really wanted to get” “incriminating”

“there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped”

“derail her campaign”

BTW my question is rhetorical.

331

mrobvious:

But, once I heard about the depression, I lost any interest in digging up more dirt or making this guy's life any worse than it's about to become.

I'm very sensitive to the plight of people with depression, too, and struggled with some of the piling on that I was reading. Depression is a terrible, terrible disease. It's one of the few diseases which are so intolerable that make humans kill themselves.

I pray that this young man gets help -- both medication and canceling.

However, having depression is not a defense to a crime, and Kernell committed a crime. I would imagine that he is in FBI custody this moment and his disease is less likely to be affected by this blog than what he is going through.

 

332

Geez, years of psychotropic drugs can really wreck your looks. 

 

333

both medication and canceling.

Very interesting.

334 If you read Kos and DU's commenters, you'll agree hat ALL of them appear to be depressed, crazed and/or have been institutionalized at one time or another.

Yeah, thank God it's soooo different around here at AOSHQ!

Calm the fuck down, wipe that foam off of your mouth, and drop the knife.

335 Yeah, look, I'm no stranger to depression myself, but it has never driven me to break federal laws in order to destroy a political opponent.  That this stupid douche appears to have failed is not much of a reason to go light on him.

Another thing about depression is that it's not always the easiest thing to understand.  Sure, in some, perhaps many, cases, it's a chemical thing that requires drugs and/or some kind of talk therapy.  Sometimes, though, it's just having a lousy attitude, a lack of perspective and unrealistic expectations of life.

Maybe the latter version applies to this dumbass, in which case maybe a nice long stint in prison might give him a much needed perspective shift so that he can live a better life afterward.

I don't care for the rape jokes, either, but trying to stop those seems futile.  That's not a partisan thing, either.  The Left loves to joke about right-wingers getting assraped, too.  It's just one of those unfortunate traits of human society.

336

The Left loves to joke about right-wingers getting assraped, too.

See, the thing is, I don't really think the left is joking when they say those things, whereas, I'm 96.73% sure my fellow AoSHQ friends are.

*crosses fingers

337

So, has the Tennessee Representative handed over his wife's medical records yet to see if her crackpipe use contributed to their son's mental health issues?

338

I get depressed a lot lately too.

Michael Douglas' character in "Falling Down" was really down in the dumps, did that entitle him to shoot people on the streets of Los Angeles?

People who are depressed tend to drink more too. No matter how depressed you are though, the cops will still arrest you for DUI.

 

339

Here’s an irony, just a few day’s ago Palin’s son a young man of 19, along with his brigade headed out to Iraq.

 And this little piss ant schmuck, 20 year old BOY, son of an Obama Dem (On team Obama) hacks into a privet e-mail account cause he’s stupid enough to believe friging rumors found NOTHING, and then POSTED IT!

A slap on the hand won’t do and his father is done as well.

Hey I know lets ship him out to Iraq and he can be in the Striker Brigade with Palin’s son.

If he survives, literally, we can stick him in an USMC uniform and send him out with McCain’s son's squad.  Oh and make sure the Marines know he was never one of them.

 

340 pajama mama, I think you make a really good point.  It seems to me, based on the admittedly anecdotal evidence of my own experiences interacting with the craven Left, that they really do want violence to be visited upon right-wingers.

341

So, has the Tennessee Representative handed over his wife's medical records yet to see if her crackpipe use contributed to their son's mental health issues?

Listen to me.  Turning over medical records is only for republicans.  The doctor told us that my wife's crack use did absolutely no harm to Davey.  You'll have to take my word for it.  Regardless, it's not my fault.  Leave me alone!

342 You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer. Helter skelter helter skelter helter skelter

343 What? Me fail English? That unpossible!

344

Is the Obama campaign’s David Plouffe connected to alleged hacker David Kernell?

This website may have evidence of a connection between David Plouffe of the Obama campaign and alleged hacker of Sarah Palin’s emails David Kernell, son of Tennessee Democratic Representative Mike Kernell:

There is an apparent connection between David Kernell and David Plouffe. If you do a Technorati search for “david kernell” (http://www.technorati.com/search/%22david+kernell%22?authority=a4&language=en) and then click on Videos about David Kernell, the first video you see if of David Plouffe (Campaign manager for Obaman). He probably did the video for Plouffe.

This is not a casual connection.

Best regards,

Dave Kittley
bdk@srcaccess.net

http://www.mikefrancesa.com/wordpress/?p=1210

345 "My wife's a Vol. She gets an extra spanking tonight for this. Or something."

Or something, indeed.  Make her holler ROLL TIDE.

346

This website may have evidence of a connection between David Plouffe of the Obama campaign and alleged hacker of Sarah Palin’s emails David Kernell, son of Tennessee Democratic Representative Mike Kernell:

Yeah, the next time I see David "the Poof" Plouffe I'm gonna bitch-slap him.  He told us "No, they'll never be able to track it back to you."  What an oaf!  Anyway, It's not my fault.  If you have a complaint, talk to "the Poof".

347 He's possible on the autistic or schixophrenic spectrum, based on all the collected information on him. It will be interesting to see how the case develops.

348 possibly

349 Mike Kernell, you're freakin' me out, man.

350 Are you talking to me us me?

351 SON OF A INFEDEL EATER OF VEGETABLES HIS COMPUTER SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY AND SOLD AND BAR HIM FROM GOING ON LINE FOR FIVE YEARS

352 Man, wingnuts are really fixated on homosexual rape. I guess Ace of Closet Cases is just catering to his readership.

353

``Here’s an irony, just a few day’s ago Palin’s son a young man of 19, along with his brigade headed out to Iraq.

`` And this little piss ant schmuck, 20 year old BOY, son of an Obama Dem (On team Obama) hacks into a privet e-mail account cause he’s stupid enough to believe friging rumors found NOTHING, and then POSTED IT!

``A slap on the hand won’t do and his father is done as well.''

Thanks; I was waiting for someone to point that out. 

354

@icus:  which Vietnamese poof are you more closely related to:

PUL mai-dong   or   LIK mai-dong

How many Ace posters are, or have been, nabbed for political terrorism?

How many then pleaded depression, etc. to absolve themselves?

Get it?  GET IT? 

NO?  Well, that nice man over there with the stout truncheon will massage your brain until you do.

 

355

http://carlosechevarria.blogspot.com/2008/09/exposedan-obama-hacker.html

Do not give this Obama thug a pass, he knew full well what he was doing because he even said he was looking for dirt, plus that the FBI would be coming for him.....his daddy is a Democratic hack.

HE NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED, LET HIM USE THE INSANITY PLEA, BUT HE IS A MENACE TO SOCIETY, just like Barry is a cancer....

356

Mmm... Hey, David, ever been raped? I'm gonna make a man out of you... with rape. 'Cause I'm gonna rape you. Rape you right in the ass. Yeah...

357 I'm in sympathy with the position that (a little) caution needs to be exercised, and the anal obsession probably isn't healthy.

On the other hand, any cum-dribbling lefty who shows up for a lecture can just shut the fuck up, 'cause this is a pittance compared to the RDA on DU.

358

So the guy has been institutionalized. If he has the where with all to study engineering physics, he knows the difference between right and wrong. He himself admitted as much when he said he unplugged from the internet and contemplated his mistake. I don't feel a damn bit sorry for him.

 

 

Maybe this is proof that his father should not have went into politics, because raising a child is a full time job.

/sarc off

359

360  I'll just put out every goddamn bit of dirt I get fed on you, cocksucker."

See, that's what I mean. He's an adult. Plus he actually did something. No Marquees de Queensbury rules required.

You wouldn't, however, attack his little sister if he has one. That's what I'm saying about "crossing the line".

Now that we agree on the distinction, give the bastard a double 10 gage blast of heck.

361 I'm 96.73% sure my fellow AoSHQ friends are.

No prison, no ass raping.  Two days in the stocks having people throw rotten fruit and putrid roadkill at him would work fine for me.  Those two days would be a better life lesson than 10 years in prison.

362 This is so sad actually.  This is a kid.  What would make the kid do this?  Could the kid have been manipulated into doing it?  Sophomore year is a very tough year, (sophomore slump)engineering physics is a very difficult subject.  It can be very lonely and you can really crave friends.

Last night I was horrified and angry.  Tonight I am saddened.  How can the political process in my country, the country I love, the country of my birth have deteriorated to the point where one candidate can have a cult like following that ofttimes does not think beyond wanting to be part of the group.  Worse yet, how can everyone see this and stand by and watch it happening?  If people are so brain washed that they neglect their own self interest then this is a red flag for our society.

363 Are you kidding me?!

If this young man committed this crime, to hell with "Oh, he has depression issues he's had to work with. Give him a break. It would be the decent thing to do."

We're not here to do the "decent" thing, to allow a sentient adult commit a crime and, knowingly, try to exacerbate the initial offense by maliciously digging for dirt and intentionally spreading it around for others to sift.

Imagine if something had been found, something that led to some other nugget of exploitable data that ended up destroying a Presidential campaign. Would that be acceptable? Is that the new standard for deciding whether to prosecute? Even those who sabotage Presidential campaigns and end up costing people their careers, their reputation, their expectation of privacy, hundreds of millions of dollars, and the integrity of legitimate campaigns (the backbone of a democracy) can escape serious charges because they have "issues?"

Bull fucking shit.

Investigate. Prosecute. Try. Convict if guilty. Full sentencing as mandated. This ain't tiddly-winks. This is serious stuff in a new age of digital crime. If guilty, there's no sending to the corner to think about things for a while. The sooner these criminals realize the seriousness of their acts, the sooner we'll flush out of our collective psyche the idea that cybercrime is relatively harmless and that one's mental state can absolve one of full responsibility.

Spare the rod, spoil the child. And here, as alleged, it's an adult, aka not a child, with the mental capacity to play chess and attend college. He knew what he was doing. Does that mean physical harm should come to him? No. It does mean, however, that incarceration is not an unreasonable, unfair, or indecent sentence to administer. The indecent thing would be to let him skate.

364 I'm for prison. The rape part, well that will be decided in prison. I'm sure he is man enough to take care of himself. Heh.

365 So we all agree, he's a homo?
Posted by: Bart

He will be after the assrapin'

366

Obviously we should get a jock at his college to pick a fight with him in a bar one night. Having his teeth knocked out will make him all that more popular with him little boyfriends.

What a slimely little punk.

367 these obama supporters are not just attack dogs but RABIES INFESTED attack dogs. problem with a rabid attack dog is they tend to turn on their masters. What what will happen if Obama LOSES. The LULZ that will happen is going to be amazing.

368

OBAMA CAMPAIGN LIINKED TO HACKER

 

http://terryfrank.net/?p=3591

369 Hey, I'm ten times crazier than this kid and I still got sent to jail. 

370 Mitnick got 5 years. Yes. However, here's the telling part: Mitnick served five years in prison, of which four and a half years were pre-trial So much for a "speedy" trial. That was under the Clinton/Janet El Reno administration. Mitnick had fewer rights than our friends at Gitmo.

371 If mitigating factors exist, I'm sure a judge will consider them. Fines, service, a longer sentence, suspended, and maybe a little jail time would suit the purposes of condemning his actions and providing an example of what line not to cross in search of lulz. Serious internets, serious criminal penalty. They need to be connected.

372 Van derleun promotes a fallacy, too, that this kid's prosecution is up to Palin. She can't let him go. As in, can't, not shouldn't, not won't. His crime is against the laws of Alaska and the United States; his activities were part of a group effort (if a spontaneous group effort) to crack her email, and they would do it again, to other people. The prosecutor has discretion, the judge and jury the responsibility to weigh proof of guilt or mitigation of his acts before imposing a penalty. This "kid" ( a young MAN, really) would do it again, and would have, if he's thought he could get away with it. I can't think of few cases that need an example set of consequences. The truth is a whole bunch of smartasses were trying to do the same thing, and maybe a little fear of consequences should be reinforced.

373 obstruction of justice...kinda like McPalin and clan refusing to answer subpoenas about TrooperGate amongst the other scandals she is involved in.

seems like more of the Bush Doctrine...abuse power, screw the taxpayer, and lie, lie, lie....and ignore subpoenas.  Wow.

and what is the newest financial bailout estimates...4 TRILLION dollars...and for you guys this is business as usual...

too bad there is not a hell, there were would a special place for the (hmm, in the name) CON-servatives... the only thing they conserve is their personal wealth at the expense others...and guess what... FISCALLY conservative..is an oxymoron... or just a jaded, scared moron...

374

What does /b/ thinks of their superhacker.

 

http://img.4chan.org/b/res/86145718.html

375 How come all the moonbat posts are incoherent? 

376

...ellipses...make me look wise and mysterious...bu$hitler oil downing street...

377 Whew...you guys are a hoot! I mean if I were to look in the dictionary under mouth-breathing tool, I'd see a group photo of y'all grinning like morons. You guys ever hear of self-awareness?

378

Let agsdgdfh make you feel at home, anonymous, and... let him... ass fuck... your brains out... it should take both of you about 5 seconds.

379

The poor kid didn't know what he was doing, he's been in a nut house twice...yadayadayada...he knew exactly what he was doing (brags about being a hacker) and why (to find out something to destroy palin including terrorizing her family and endangering her minor by posting their personal info on the net)

his myspace page says it all then he's too cowardly so he makes it private so he doesn't have to face the public 

he's not mentally impaired : "David Kernell is a sophomore engineering physics student at UT" he's just stupid, devious, hateful and cruel. who has no life other than dance and chess...(explains a lot)....so he takes his deep seated obsession with palin and his hatred of women out on her and her family.

if he off's himself because of this its because he brought it on himself...palin or her family did not seek him out or ask for this.

as for those who think it was just a prank .....lets put your info on the net, your personal pics & info on your kids and see if you feel the same way.

there s a much bigger issue than this just being palin's email and personal info,  it could be yours or mine and god forbid if it were obama's as it would have been a media shit storm if his family had been hacked.

380 anyone else thinks it funny that this hackers and their ilk are such cowards they close down their sites and run and hide ? what pussies...then again just looking at david's pic you know he is...all bravado, black nail polish and anarcist symbols  but no substance

381 Wow!  377 Comments!  I always wondered what closeted right wing homosexuals did when they weren't having meth parties with their gay hookers.  Now I know.

382

This is all a set-up by the Obama camp. They used this kid (I'm sure he and his pol father were willing participants), created a phony blog site in his name with crazy postings he supposedly wrote about anarchy and proclaiming he was institutionalized twice for mental illness. The purpose of the postings is to get the kid off citing the blog as proof he wasn't in his right mind. The kid will get off with a slap on the wrist and a suggestion he seek therapy. This is so easy to figure out Obama and Axelrod must think people are as dumb as they are to think this kid worked alone.

383 "I'm for prison. The rape part, well that will be decided in prison."

The Ronster likes prison rape. Are you a top or bottom like the Rovester?

384 I'm guessing the Ace of Spades password is SpartanManLove.

385 We find it less than ironical, bordering on predictable, that the so-called "hacker" would come from the same fringes that were so dogmatically opposed to the Patriot Act and whined about a fear of having their *gasp* library cards monitored; I guess privacy rights are only dear when it's YOUR privacy, not typical white people who angrily cling to their guns and god and Yahoo accounts.    

386 I find it disgusting that all of you people have nothing better to do with your lives that sit around and talk shit about this boy.

He hacked into Sarah Palin's email. I'm aware of that. That doesn't mean a lot. Sure, he may have done it to "look for incriminating evidence", but did he find any, and would he have used it had he found any? I think not. I believe that he was just trying to hack into her email to see if he could, a kind of "look what I can do" attitude. Once he realized what he had done, I'm sure he was terrified. Really though, I don't think he deserves anything like the type of punishment you all would bestow upon him. Consider if he had hacked into some random person's email by guessing at their password, what would have happened to him? Most likely nothing, and why should anything change just because it's Sarah Palin? What he did is not a felony crime, it's a minor misdemeanor at most and should be treated as such.

387 Are you an idiot? He invaded her privacy. He also posted on the internet photos and email addresses and phone number. And, now, if he had hacked into my email I would go to the fbi. What about all the people who have to change their email addresses and telephone numbers because assholes like you are harassing them? He should go to jail. Period. And it's only the damn left that pulls this shit and pulls it all the time without getting punished. Time to give them and you a lesson.

388

This bitch is going to make some guy a nice biatch in jail. I hope the bitch gets what cuming to him. This is what you get for self righteous fanaticism.

389 Believe me, that beautiful little Doe-eyed, curly-topped moppet will never have to worry about all the loving attention he would have gotten in a federal prison. Daddy has the keys to the gate and every one of them has a picture of Benjamin Franklin on it! - “He’s just a poor little misunderstood kid, your honor” - “OK, here’s your ‘Get Out Of Jail Free Card’ Son. Be sure to call Uncle Teddy and thank him for his help”!

390 Re: Post 327..
I took a Look at this Boy's fav Flash Vids.... The Last One was particularly interesting! ~ "I performed Fellatio on your Dog"

This 'Moppet -Topped lit'l Feller' is sure gonna enjoy his visit to our crib!

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