October 05, 2008

Behind Enemy Lines [Vinnie]
— Open Blog

I get grief every time I do this, but here's a nice blog worth checking out.

Stilettos in the Sand.

It's the daily chronicle of the life of an American woman in Saudi Arabia.

And with that, I do believe Open Blog may be over.

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1 On first glance...I'm surprised she's allowed to have dogs. 

Posted by: james at October 05, 2008 08:21 PM (GPHwq)

2

so this is the open blog then?

help me out, I'm on 16hr shift overnight

Posted by: Jones/CO at October 05, 2008 08:21 PM (KOkrW)

3 Sarah needs to come to NY.. I will protect her from the liberal nutjobs!

Posted by: Smith at October 05, 2008 08:22 PM (tVHgs)

4

Vinnie...Open Blog isn't over until we say it is!

Was Open Blog over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

 

Posted by: Nigel at October 05, 2008 08:27 PM (4gHqM)

5 It is for me, my friend.

Posted by: Vinnie at October 05, 2008 08:29 PM (+fI5w)

6 Is this link new?

It resonates with me but then, so did John Howard.

Posted by: Newby at October 05, 2008 08:34 PM (NeUq1)

7 Mommy will have to wipe my bottom now. And my IP address is 67.159.23.74

Posted by: I'm finished at October 05, 2008 08:52 PM (bL4cA)

8 Olberman was commenting on football tonight on NBC. When a player took a particularly hard crack, Olby said something about how the guy could see Russia. What a shit-head.

So I just sent the following email to about five addresses at NBC, NBC Sports, and MSNBC:

NBC,

I don't watch MSNBC News because it has zero integrity--I vote with my remote. I rarely watch NBC network programming because the shows don't draw me.

But NBC Sports? I like your coverage and have appreciated your quality for many years. So why-oh-why must you have a hack like Keith Olberman on? Every time I hear his voice, I change the channel. I go back eventually to see whatever game I was watching, but I cringe as I do it, knowing that K.O. will say something else to piss me off.

I heard his voice tonight during "Football Night" and gritted my teeth, but got through it. Sure enough, later on he simply COULD NOT HELP HIMSELF and had to throw in a political crack while discussing a play. He knew exactly what he was doing and did it intentionally. There is no doubt in my mind that he planned the crack well in advance.

Where does it end? He already got muzzled from covering the Republican convention because he couldn't act like a journalist; now he has to play politics during football? Where does it end?

Hey, NBC, there's THOUSANDS of people you can use to cover sports. Keith Olberman shouldn't be one of them. If you don't have the journalistic integrity to get him off MSNBC News, at least get him away from the sports microphone.

My next email is going to your advertisers for "Football Night in America".

Sincerely,
'ConcernedCitizen'

Now I need to know who the advertisers are for Football Night in America. How do I figure that out before next Sunday?

Posted by: ConcernedCitizen at October 05, 2008 09:00 PM (hmDr/)

9 okay, it was four. Anyone else care to join me in my pointless swipe at a gigantic corporation?

feedback@nbcsports.com, nbcsportshelp@nbcuni.com,
nbcsports@nbcuni.com,
letters@msnbc.com

I also just pasted my letter into the 'feedback' form at GE.

Slightly better than masturbating....but only because I don't do it five times a day.

Posted by: ConcernedCitizen at October 05, 2008 09:07 PM (hmDr/)

10 67.159.23.74 is an interesting IP address indeed.

Why can't the trolls be any more realistic http://niteskysite.ytmnd.com/ ?

I mean, there are a few downsides to Mccain... (just ask DrewM) surely they could exploit them a little more cleverly?  It's because Axelrod and co. really think right wingers are subhuman, stupid, and evil.  And perhaps underestimate how much we know about Obama.  As far as I'm concerned, anyone who isn't a communist will not vote for Obama if they know enough about him.  It's like Plato: voting wrong is not a function of being evil... just being ignorant.

Posted by: Shill at October 05, 2008 09:07 PM (8jYMc)

11 I love Sabra's website.  I haven't been there for a while, so thanks for the link/reminder of the  address to the link.

Posted by: texastickled at October 05, 2008 09:16 PM (ip5H0)

12 lol, he's from Woodstock and he uses a Mac.  I bet he drives a Volkwagon too.

Posted by: Shill at October 05, 2008 09:17 PM (8jYMc)

13 Oh no they've tracked down my proxy's IP address. What to do? Oh maybe just use another proxy. Oh and Newby, John Howard couldn't even win his own seat at the last Australian election. He obviously didn't resonate with many of his countrymen.

Posted by: It's finished at October 05, 2008 09:19 PM (o0aAF)

14 Concerned Citizen. Are you sure your name shouldn't be concerned conservative christian?

Posted by: It's finished at October 05, 2008 09:21 PM (o0aAF)

15 Hey astroturfer, are you some kind of triple reverse agent?

I mean, it's been well established that liberal trolls are at least slightly harmful to the Obama campaign.  You're dedicated, but you're clearly not getting under anyone's skin here.  What are you trying to do?  No one here gives a shit, and you can barely disrupt a bunch of crazy assholes like us, so what's the point?

I think what's going on with your kind is that you were so devastated when Kerry lost (I mean, I recall seeing people CRYING and screaming and getting drunk and sobbing) that you want to return that pain to us.

But most of us accept that it's an uphill battle.  A lot of us are going to fight hard for Mccain... I know I drove a bunch of folks to the polls in 2004 and I'll do it again in 2008, but if he loses, we've already articulated the bright side of it.  We know we'll be ok.  We won't want to see hanging chad cheating on our side... we won't want to harm our nation through divisive legal disputes... a lot of us will genuinely wish Obama the best of luck with all the fucked up problems our country faces.  We're pretty confident that if he is even able to institute his policies that the voters will reject his party in the future, but if they don't... then that's the way democracy works.

Do you really think this goading is going to ease your pain?  Bush is STILL the president.  He's been vindicated by his reelection.  He's freed 50 million people in the middle east.  Saved millions of lives in Africa.  Prevented subsequent attacks after Gorelick's 9/11.  Any pain you feel over Bush isn't going to go away.  Ever.

Sure, it'll suck for me if Obama wins, but I think Bush succeeded in Iraq to the extent that Al Qaida (who were goaded into battle in Iraq) are devastated and we'll be OK barring Obama doing something extremely stupid.  I don't think you'll see grown men crying if Mccain loses.

So what are you doing?

Posted by: Shill at October 05, 2008 09:40 PM (8jYMc)

16 Why the republicans are fucked http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/memories.html

Posted by: Foreclosure at October 05, 2008 09:41 PM (znndF)

17

I saw American Carol!

Bad out of the way first - The movie would have caught a larger audience and influenced more votes in 2004. The slapstick, and Moore-is-fat gags, get a little old. Also there were jokes at the expense of crippled kids which, I'm guessing, were attempts to reference Airplane! that can't work even for its target audience. Lastly, some of its politics are unnecessarily divisive, vis-a-vis the Ten Commandments in a courthouse. If you're making a patriotic movie, then don't drag in religion as a part of that. (Christianity is a great religion as a religion, which the movie does point out elsewhere; that much is fine. But let's not forget the war on terror is also a war on behalf of atheists, Indian Hindus and statues of the Buddha...)

The good - the satire is dead-on. Rosie O'Connell plays "herself" as a parody of O'Donnell. The image of the modern no-civil-war South was the most horrific. Also, Kevin Farley proves to be a fine actor (who knew?).

On balance it's a better movie than I expected, and I commend the courage of all the actors who appeared or just did a cameo in it, perhaps especially the black actors. I recommend it as a rally-video for Republican volunteers. Unfortunately it won't convince anyone who isn't already convinced. At least it's mostly entertaining and funny...

Posted by: David Ross at October 05, 2008 09:53 PM (qQ7GT)

18 foreclosure: the people who got those irresponsible loans were democrats.  The politicians who pressured the banks to make those irresponsible loans were largely democrats (while Mccain and Bush begged them to stop before this crisis occured).  The worst folks in this crisis were the community organizers such as those working with ACORN, who would go to local banks and call them racist until they gave poor minorities extremely irresponsible loans. 

And you bet your ass some Republicans let this happen.  But not Mccain.  It's clear that this is a democrat's mess, and the democrats played politics again when Mccain tried to fix it again.  As Pelosi made her speech and Dodd added in tons of pork to the bailout bill, Mccain was trying to work out a comprimise, and telling his folks not to attack democrats on the issue until the real work is done.

I think Mccain will make his case to the American people that this is what happened.  It's the truth, and I think people will listen.  Linking Andrew Sullivan is trollish as hell, so you probably already know everything I'm saying.  The GOP does have a lot of risk thanks to the mess they didn't make... so?  That's how it works when you fight against liars with a media that covers for them.

I don't get it... we've seen here a new relationship between the Palin Yahoo emial hacker, and the potential Axelrod moby (who has decided to go Deb Frisch rapid fire insano on us).  How is that anything but a victory for us?

Posted by: Shill at October 05, 2008 09:55 PM (8jYMc)

19 David Ross,

I don't think the film would have worked if it was trying to convince people to change their political hearts.  It's funny, and I totally had the same thought about using it on those 72 hour task force bus rides (I had to watch a git-r-done video on the way back from Philly to DC in 2004... bleagh).  liberal comedy can be very funny... it's when it is preachy and obviously propaganda that it stops being funny to all but the assholes. 

It's a great movie in its own right, and I hope they make a fortune in DVD sales.  I'm very happy they went far enough to be funny without pushing it, because I will be showing it to friends who disagree with me politically.

Posted by: Shill at October 05, 2008 09:58 PM (8jYMc)

20

16, 18 Shill - Well articulated sir. Well said indeed.

19. You couldn't drag me to a movie. My last DVD purchase was the remaster of My Fair Lady. But I'll be purchasing at least three (a couple for gifts) of the American Carol DVD upon release.

Posted by: davis,br at October 05, 2008 10:13 PM (zewwG)

21 "The movie would have caught a larger audience and influenced more votes in 2004. The slapstick, and Moore-is-fat gags, get a little old."

That movie DID come out, and it probably DID influence the election.

"Team America" was great...  Too bad it got Stone & Parker burned out on moviemaking.

Posted by: someone at October 05, 2008 10:16 PM (2z2WN)

22 I live in NYC.  Any other New Yorkers getting tired of sportswriter Mike Lupica using his column to take political cheap shots.  Lupica can barely do a decent job on the sports page, now I have to put up with his bullshit political views!!!

Posted by: Bob T at October 05, 2008 10:33 PM (DmlVS)

23 McCain's commanders sarcastically dubbed him "Ace McCain" because of his string of pre-Vietnam accidents, recalled Maurice Rishel, who commanded McCain's VA-65 squadron in early 1961, when it was deployed in the Mediterranean. This examination of his record revealed a pilot who early in his career was cocky, occasionally cavalier and prone to testing limits. In today's military, a lapse in judgment that causes a crash can end a pilot's career. Though standards were looser and crashes more frequent in the 1960s, McCain's record stands out. http://tinyurl.com/4h22gg

Posted by: McCain's dangerous at October 05, 2008 11:19 PM (Kutjz)

24 (in response to the above post that slanders Mccain's military service) Mccain was a hotshot, though he had an exceptional military career.  He reached the highest rank he could without having a post his injuries prevented him from holding.  He was a POW for years and refused to be released ahead of his friends.  What a fucking hero!

I broke a lot of shit when I was in the Army.  Patriotic kids in the military can be cocky.  I think they are entitled.  One things for sure: Mccain's military record is awesome.  He's no friend of Ayers, that Tim McVeigh protoge who on Sept 11, 2001 advocated more bombings of our nation (as his good friend Obama helped Ayers with his educational goals).

You're obviously just trying to troll us, but I love pointing out what a hero Mccain is.  It's huge, and that character is a core requirement to be the President.  Mccain has his nation's gratitude.  Does Obama?  Obama doesn't mind if you tried to blow up the Pentagon and stand on the US flag!  Obama will let a felon buy his house!  Obama can't even be bothered to show up to the Senate and vote!  Mccain, according to some slimeball, wasn't a careful enough pilot (though I doubt this account).

Is that really the best Axelrod and Obama's lesser fans can come up with?

Posted by: Shill at October 05, 2008 11:30 PM (8jYMc)

25 What the fuck is up with all the goddamned retards?  They run out of lime jello at teh group home or something?  I haven't seen this many preturbed low-functioning mental cases since Rosie O'Donnel's attempt at acting smarter than she is in real life.

Hey, assmunchers, it's not like this is some "serious" forum that woun't recognize your poor attempts at mobying and false flag operations.  We don't give a fuck about what other people think.  We're here to rip on retard leftists who have ther toughs crammed up The One's anus.

Nobody gives a shot.

(It's especially precious when they include a link.  Yeah, I'll be clicking on your shit right away.  Let me just finish making my notroglycerin martini.  Shaken, of course.  Idiot dickcheeses)

Posted by: moronizer at October 05, 2008 11:35 PM (JxyMA)

26 moronizer, it's pretty clear that's it's coordinated.  For whatever reason, Ace's site came up in the queue.  they want us to think, via polls, Obama is invincible and we shouldn't volunteer for Mccain or bother voting (they know the polls suffer from poor balancing and probably favor Mccain).  They want to make us angry with eachother over the bailout, so expect anything that brings that up.  But the idea of slamming his military service is just bizarre.

I think that's just an attempt to obfuscate or enrage us.  Doesn't bother me to point out that Mccain is a hero, while Obama will be your friend as your stand on the US flag and call for more US bombings on 9/11/2001.  I do think this shit is going to motivate me to go to left leaning blogs and subtley PUMA talk... or better yet cut and paste the smear above.  That kind of thing will drive Hillary voters into Mccain's camp.

The key, of course, is choosing the right place to do it.  It's idiotic to moby on DU (just as it's idiotic to do so here).

Posted by: Shill at October 05, 2008 11:50 PM (8jYMc)

27 Shill writes at 10 of despair in seeing a more "realistic" attack strategy from Obama. For Shill and anyone else who's been pining for rumble, if it's ever gonna happen, it starts today. With Obama ahead by a mile in the polls, the McCampaign let it out that starting tomorrow they're going with a 24/7 ad bombardment of Ayres & Rezko. I think what they're really after is a Osama Hearts Obama thing, with Ayres the Weatherman Homegrown Terrorist eliding with Rezko the Middle Eastern con artist. They say they won't replay Wright, but in the same breath just happened to mention the 527's might do that- which is the only legal way to sound that charge. So there'll be a lot of God Damn America hooting and hollering, lending the production a little Ottoman Empire war frenzy.

Posted by: Diderot's dog at October 05, 2008 11:51 PM (nrD02)

28

McCain's dangerous at troll.asshole.net

 

I made two trips to Vietnam on board an aircraft carrier where we spent months at a time on Yankee Station, and elsewhere, launching missions. We consistently lost more aircraft due to accidents and failures during launch and recovery than we did due to enemy action. Flying aircraft on at off a ship at sea is a hazardous occupation where shit happens and not just to the pilots.

 

So why don’t you take your troll stupidity back to the Kos site where you can engage in a little bit, or a lot, of Soros puffery. I’m sure he hasn’t had enough blowjob to get off yet today.

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 12:03 AM (b1ysY)

29 Really stinky pee!

Posted by: Diderot's dog at October 06, 2008 12:06 AM (nrD02)

30 You know, I looked into it, and it seems the troll here is copying info from the LA Times's most recent smear of Mccain.

They won't tell you about Ayers or Wright or Obama's involvment with the Annenberg Challenge, but they will slime Mccain's military service (as they slammed anyone who challenged John Kerry's).

Mccain already talked about these three plane crashes in his autobio.  One of them was an engine failure.  The navy says Mccain had the throttle too low.  The other two were errors on Mccain's part that he talks about in his book.  Whatever you call it, combat pilots do push the envelope.

The LA Times shockingly attacks Mccain for his plane being destroyed in the Forrestal fire... that obviously wasn't Mccain's fault!  Mccain was a hero in that incident, but no one cares because Mccain was a hero all the time.

The LA Times notes that it interviewed those who served with Mccain.. but then immeadiately quote some guy from the Air Force who obviously never worked with Mccain.  They just give you their conclusion that Mccain was reckless.  They bury at the end that all of Mccain's actual buddies said he was a great officer who was trying to get the most out of his equipment... and not some hot-dogging jackass.

The LA Times does not produce a single report from anyone who worked with Mccain and didn't think he was a good officer.  They just tell you they know it somehow.

ASSHOLES.

Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 12:08 AM (8jYMc)

31 What gets me is this man, Mccain, survives plane crashes and explosions and nearly gets killed on the Forrestal and gets his teeth kicked out and ribs and arms and legs broken by NVA and he was still a Navy lifer.  He deals with constant harassment as a Senator, tells Keating he won't use his office to help him but gets slammed by democrat CYA assholes, tries to fix all kinds of major problems by crossing the aisle only to be backstabbed all the time, runs for office amid those black lovechild rumors, hears his wife slandered and attacked to the point where she's having a very rough time... and still, this mother fucking man is still trucking along, trying to keep this country on the right track.

Any of you who let these trolls get you down, buy into that lie that the polls say Obama is invincible, or don't show up to vote (or volunteer if you can)... you're letting a man down who has NEVER let you down.  I think Mccain is a bit of an asshole... I don't like a few of his policies... but damn, that man has served me to the best of his ability and he deserves my help, and your help, against Obama, Axelrod, the LA Times, and anyone else trying to promote people who stomp on the US flag and say it's OK to bomb the Pentagon (by the way, Ayers bragged about disrupting the Navy Air Campaign over Vietnam, and had jewelry made from downed Navy planes in Vietnam... this is Obama's CLOSE friend and mentor).

Fuck that.

Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 12:14 AM (8jYMc)

32

9 ConcernedCitizen wrote, "Anyone else care to join me in my pointless swipe at a gigantic corporation?"

No. Writing NBC rewards Olberman, because hey, it's attention! But I'll tell you an approach that could work.

Write the NFL. They have refusal rights on broadcasters. Just tell them you'll never watch a game Olberman's involved with and why. That he's a raving nut who can't separate his political rage from the game.

I can't honestly join you, because I won't watch NBC under any circumstances.

Posted by: Looking Glass at October 06, 2008 12:20 AM (7qIIr)

33 Shill,

I know what is going on, I'm just wondering why the sub-retard mouthbreathers think the moron commenters at AOSHQ will even care what they are trying to say. 

You're right that it's pointless to moby DU, and it's pointless to moby here.  But the sharp uptick is what's so crazy.  I'm still voting for a lime jello shortfall.

Posted by: moronizer at October 06, 2008 12:29 AM (JxyMA)

34

Ayers bragged about disrupting the Navy Air Campaign over Vietnam, and had jewelry made from downed Navy planes in Vietnam...

 

That scum asshole show that kind shit around me and I will bash his teeth out with a 31 Louisville Slugger, then proceed to really fix him up.

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 12:32 AM (b1ysY)

35 moronizer,

Perhaps they are just really stupid, but I doubt that.  If they are part of the astroturf coordination, they are only somewhat stupid.  I wonder if they are trying out new things here, or trying to see what kind of retorts to anticipate (using us as a focus group).

The favorite Astroturf technique is the strawman.  They could take my retort, and fuck it up enough that a normal person would dismiss my argument as poor (and be hesitant to listen to it again, even if stated correctly) as the moby 'devastates' the other moby.  I don't think they enter these threads with a solo moniker... I think they probably try to stage the entire argument from both sides.

Just an idle guess.  Perhaps they just really hate us and are trying to piss us off.  I have to admit that I am pretty mad about the LA Times slander about Mccain's navy history...

Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 12:35 AM (8jYMc)

36 Vic, it is infuriating.  Really beyond words.

I know Ayers had that prosecutorial misconduct gift (it's hard not to understand, I guess, why the prosecutor would go too far trying to get Ayers) and now he has double jeopardy protection for his bombings that he now confesses to with glee and pride (as though his freedom is society forgiving him, and not proof that we live in a nation of laws and civil rights).  But isn't Ayers guilty of treason?  Why wouldn't we prosecute him for it?  It's a different charge entirely, and he's explained that he meant to aid the enemy in his book.  He talks about bombing a bathroom in the Pentagon, and how it disrupted the Vietnam air campaign, and how he was thrilled about it.  That's aid and comfort to our enemy.  How could you have an easier case?

And Obama has never condemned the man, Ayers... he only condemns the violence.  Ayers is a communist radical educator... he has shaped the lives of millions (yeah, really) of kids in Illinois.  He and Obama together.  While Ayers made huge hay out of his bombings and goals of taking this nation down by teaching kids about how evil capitalism is.

And if Palin mentions it, she's racist!  The attack has spawned a bunch of Keating 5 attacks... as though that's an effective reprisal.  I hope to hell every American voter knows about Ayers, the CAC, and Wright.  If they do, and Obama wins, then I can accept it to some extent as overwhelming anger at the GOP.  If the voters allow Obama to win because they didn't know about this stuff... well that's unforgivable.


Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 12:47 AM (8jYMc)

37 McCain was a traitor in Vietnam. He got special treatment from the VC because he rolled over early and told them all that he knew. He only got into Annapolis because of his family. Graduated at the bottom of his class but got into aviation again because of family favors and retained his flying position after his numerous fuckups because he had daddy and friends looking out for him.

Posted by: Shill's a moron at October 06, 2008 12:49 AM (znndF)

38

35 Shill wrote, "Perhaps they are just really stupid"

No perhaps about it. They really are that stupid.

They have causality exactly backwards in the "wet streets cause rain" kind of way.

They believe by changing the content of the comments they'll change people's beliefs. Instead of realizing that comments reflect the way people think, but don't control it.

Posted by: Looking Glass at October 06, 2008 12:50 AM (7qIIr)

39 to post 37:

You call me a moron.  I wear that scarlet letter M with pride around here.

You call Mccain a traitor.  I am sure you didn't think the same of Kerry's disgusting slander of US troops in Congress.  Nor do you think the same of Obama's enduring friendship with anti-american terror.

Mccain's a traitor because he was in a navy family.  And chose a combat slot with high risks.  And stayed in after he was brutalized (most of the brutality Mccain endured was after he refused release because of the Code of Conduct).   And he had a career with distinction. The Navy has tons of people like Mccain with famous fathers.  But they do not have that POW ribbon, I assure you, unless they are heros.

We need more traitors like Mccain.  And sadly, more morons like me.  There are so many holes on your mom and  Ican only fill a couple at a time.

Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 12:56 AM (8jYMc)

40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPE6_jGBlDc

Posted by: Fun at October 06, 2008 01:00 AM (znndF)

41 I would love to know what combat unit Obama worked for.  Why didn't Obama enlist on 9/11?  We needed some good JAGs to protect the rights of our terrorists (Seriously, we do need those kinds of people and it's a job that takes guts).  Where was Obama?  Making tons of money?  Hmmm.

While Mccain used his legacy admit to the Navy (because we know it's impossible to get in an airplane without such) and served to retirement after enormous injuries, where was Obama?  Writing his own memoir for the second time... before he actually did anything but go to Harvard while a minority in Amerikkka?

I wonder if we can somehow choose who really loves his country more.

YES WE CAN

Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 01:01 AM (8jYMc)

42 And shill's head explodes

Posted by: Shill's a moron at October 06, 2008 01:01 AM (znndF)

43 fun has the same IP hash as the other troll.  Don't click his link, please.

Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 01:01 AM (8jYMc)

44

Shill

 

Yes, the troll word for today is Keating 5. Expect to see a lot of that today. The only reason McCain was under investigation was so the Commie Committee of Political smears could have a Republican to charge. The lawyer, a Democrap, submitted a report that both Glenn and McCain should be dropped. This should be the Keating 3 and not 5, but like all lying Democrap investigations, the object was not to get to the truth, but to provide cover and attack Republicans.

 

It would be even worse now. If the same thing happened the primary person involved (a Democrat) would never have been investigated at all and it would have been the “Keating 1”.

 

The Democraps no longer even have a semblance of integrity left. You may as well abolish the ethics committee when the Dems have control of it.

 

As for Kerry, that obnoxious son of a bitch ranks up there with Jane Fonda among the vets. He is one of those that we would walk away from to take a piss if he was on fire.

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 01:01 AM (b1ysY)

45 Time for breakfast. back later

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 01:05 AM (b1ysY)

46 Single most important issue facing the country? The economy. McCain "'I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues." Great candidate you've got there.

Posted by: Shill's a moron at October 06, 2008 01:06 AM (znndF)

47 One of the most telling things was, after the VP debates, it showed the CNN focus group (yeah I was watchin enemy propaganda on purpose).  One obviously average, non-plant woman was saying something about how obviously those interviews with Palin were "edited"

Just said it in passing, talking aobut how SP did, but I think the interviews may prove to be the rope a dope strategy for discrediting the MSM deeply and silently.  Now, I don't think this was intentional; SP gave horrid interviews.  But the debate performance was so brilliant as to make the hack edits they did turn to utter poison against the media themselves. 

Which cup has iocane poison, eh?

Posted by: moronizer at October 06, 2008 01:06 AM (JxyMA)

48 I do admit, it does genuinely bother me that people like you are out there.  So angry.  So hateful.  So dishonest.  You know Mccain would make a better president... I know you honestly realize it.  You don't want America to be OK.  You don't want to see Mccain fix Afghanistan as he fixed Iraq.  You don't want to see the GOP and DNC forced to be honest in congress... to see earmarks stop, to see bipartisanship and comprimise, to see an honest president who tells us how it is.

You want America to continue to have huge problems as much as possible.  Just as Barney Frank has that ttwinkle in his eye as he says he wants to roll the dice on Fannie Mae, you are secretly hoping for a captialist failure.

So while my head isn't exploding, I do admit that you are bothering me, 'Shill is a Moron' or whatever you call yourself.  But at least you are helping Mccain win an election.  You can't know in your echo chamber, but the polls, already ridiculously weighted against Mccain, are still headed his way.  He's gaining steam.  I promise I will do a better job in leftist threads than you are doing here.  I do not expect many undecided voters to choose Obama on the basis of what you have written here or anywhere, but I swear I will get some PUMAs.  I really will.  You can't look into my eyes, but if you could, I think you'd believe me.

but yeah, you've honestly got a point when you note that I'm irritated with you.

Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 01:07 AM (8jYMc)

49 Shill, just give it up.  The troll is just that.  Don't bother with it.  He's found which buttons to push with you, and doing so. 

Really, if Obambi wants to run an astroturfing campaign saying McCain is really the commie symp, not Obama (further evidence of the incomprehensible, massive PROJECTION strategy that typifies the panicking BO campaign), by all means, go ahead. 

McCain broke under torture.  Anyone who's been through it knows that everyone breaks, the question is when.

Why did BO become a commie symp?  Merely political ambition or is he really a fellow traveler?  He sure never got tortured by anyhting more than Bill Ayers bad breath.

Posted by: moronizer at October 06, 2008 01:12 AM (JxyMA)

50 moronizer, you're right... it's just a punchline that SP got a bunch of flack from the interviewers.  I agree with you that she really did fuck up a few times, but the bias was so bad that she really had a good shield (and of course, she did much better than Obama would have under the same circumstances).

'shill is a moron'

I note that I'm trolling you just as much as you're trolling me.  After all, I'm chatting with my pals on my favorite website, while you're in a place you don't like trying to fuck with a bunch of people who know you're wrong.  As far as Mccain's comments on his economic ability... do you really think Biden or Obama are better on the economy?  I doubt any serious person does.  People do, however, think Mccain is more honest.  He'll tell you straight up if he needs to rely on an advisor.  He was also making a joke, as was obvious at the time.  Obama doesn't have a sense of humor, from what I can tell, but Mccain does.  I know that can be confusing to you, but it's possible that Mccain knows a lot about the economy, as evidenced by his attempt to save it from ACORN, Fannie Mae, et al. in 2005 when he correctly predicted disaster (and Obama incorrectly attempted to force banks to give bad loans).

I am happy to debate these serious policy issues with you.  I don't have any problem with it and am probably one of the most classically liberal people on this site.  I'm also a lot more polite than a lot of other morons here, and I'm surprised you take particular offense to me... though I also am flattered to have a groupie.

Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 01:14 AM (8jYMc)

51 Seven Alaska state employees have reversed course and agreed to testify in an abuse-of-power investigation into Republican US vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin. The first-term Alaska governor is the focus of a legislative inquiry over her firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Monegan claimed he was dismissed because he wouldn't fire a state trooper who had gone through a nasty divorce with Ms Palin's sister. The state employees had challenged subpoenas to testify in the inquiry but have decided to testify after a judge rejected a similar challenge.

Posted by: And the hits just keep coming at October 06, 2008 01:15 AM (znndF)

52 moronizer, I meant you were right about your prior post.

You're also right that I should ignore the troll, and I don't mean to threadjack, but I'm just burning some idle time as I wait to drive to the airport to see my kid.  It does piss me off, but I think it's a good thing. 

Posted by: Shill at October 06, 2008 01:16 AM (8jYMc)

53 Hey, bud, whatever gets you through the night (ha)

No, it's just a suggestion not to actually get mad.  Ridicule the fucktard. 

Better yet, ignore, but if you want to engage, slice like a fucking hammer.

Posted by: moronizer at October 06, 2008 01:18 AM (JxyMA)

54

Well I’m back and ready for some more troll bashing. I see they are now going back to attacking Sarah Palin on the Alaska witch hunt. Bring it on assholes; this is a proven winner for Sarah.

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 01:51 AM (b1ysY)

55

Fox going up on Bill Ayers big time this morning.

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 02:17 AM (b1ysY)

56

Ignore the trolls. They are scum. They support the marxist racist candidate.

They are the new brownshirts. Little fascists, destined for hell.

Posted by: Jones CO/the next Dillinger at October 06, 2008 02:27 AM (KOkrW)

57

The latest disinformation campaign from the MSM. AP is blasting out with this headline “At Least 500,000 Gallons of Crude Oil Spilled Into Gulf Due to Hurricane Ike”. After you read the article you find that most of this was ruptured tanks on land that were captured by dikes and recovered. Only a small amount, if any, was actually lost from the oil rigs in the gulf.http://tinyurl.com/4jngrw

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 02:28 AM (b1ysY)

58 John McCain. Erratic in a crisis. Out of touch on the economy.

Posted by: John McCain is a traitor at October 06, 2008 02:29 AM (znndF)

59 At this point I really wonder: what's in it for him? Why does McCain want to be president? Those who have followed him for years don't recognize his agenda, his tactics, his positions (e.g., the great populist regulator!). How could a man of seemingly deep conviction morph into this caricature? His campaign is empty, with no spiritual or intellectual core; its tactics have devolved into a series of crass surprises and Hail Mary passes.

Posted by: Poor McCain at October 06, 2008 02:44 AM (bL4cA)

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Posted by: Obama Brownshirt at October 06, 2008 02:55 AM (MY+kJ)

61 Obama didn't climb the political ladder. He goose stepped over it with corruption, intimidation, and fraud like a good little facist.

Posted by: Kranix at October 06, 2008 02:57 AM (MY+kJ)

62 Good news everyone! Obama knows the "final solution" to the Jewish Question! How progressive! Facism you can believe in!

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63

Well we know what the October surprise from Hollywood is this election. Another BS propaganda movies from that asshole Oliver Stone, W.  Has anybody noticed there are always at least one or two anti-conservative or anti-Republican movies that are released in October just before an election. And then after that we get the hit jobs from such network TV propaganda outlets as 60 minutes.

 

I blame a lot of this on McCain. He pushed for the so-called finance reform that allows this kind of shit and the Soros actions, but stops other campaign work that would benefit Republicans and non-party candidates. 

 

We need to either eliminate all campaign finance reform except full disclosure or make ANY pro-candidate work and any pro-issue work a donation and regulate it as such. We also need a commission of public citizens who are NOT members of any party who will investigate the charges. These citizens would be appointed by the Federal courts from each State.

 

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 03:04 AM (b1ysY)

64 10 am PT (I think) is the normal time that open blog ends.

That gives Ace a few more hours to drink detox tea and have hobo-killin' flashbacks before he has to rally.

Posted by: lauraw at October 06, 2008 03:05 AM (DbybK)

65

Yeah Vic I saw that story. Anyone who doesn't get past the headline doesn't know that half of that was one spill that was quickly cleaned up, and the rest is the accumulation of over 1300 separate reported spills, which means about 192 gallons per incident. But most retards will just read the headline and read OMG half a million gallons!!

Posted by: Jones CO/the next Dillinger at October 06, 2008 03:06 AM (KOkrW)

66

The Hollywood surprise this year should be this head line “O’Bama And Richard Gere In Hospital After Playing Hide The Gerbil”.http://tinyurl.com/4l6uj9

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 03:13 AM (b1ysY)

67

Jones CO/the next Dillinger

 

Even Fox is repeating the story as AP wrote it without delving deeply.  This is why I say Fox is LIBERAL contrary to the urban myth. The use AP largely unedited.

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 03:15 AM (b1ysY)

68 Fox is too lazy to write their own stories. And routinely using AP stories seems to me a bad business model.

Posted by: Jones CO/the next Dillinger at October 06, 2008 03:18 AM (KOkrW)

69 #58 John McCain is a traitor (znndF),

What, "hopeenchange" no longer operative? "Erratic..." and "out of touch..." aren't an improvement considering Obama is, respectively, "'present' in a crisis" and "murder on the economy." Try testing a new set of buzzwords.

We'll stick with "Obama consorts with terrorists, is financed by them, and pals around with them" while you mull it over.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 06, 2008 03:20 AM (sI5Ho)

70 My Sitemeter is off the charts for me.  From 87 viewers yesterday to 917, so far today...  All via, here, and Vinnie!  Thanks everyone for stopping by to visit me at Stilettos in the Sand.  I truly hope if some of you continue to visit occasionally that I do not disappoint and can keep up with the trials and tribulations - of which there ARE many - of my day-to-day life living in Saudi Arabia, the abuses of maids and workers, and the ineptitude of the "powers that be" preaching whatever it is they preach as they continue to try to dominate the world.  Again, thanks SO much for visiting.  The nod of recognition coming from the likes of Power Bloggers from here to lil-ole-me IS overwhelming.

And, now, back to John McCain vs. B. Hussein!

Posted by: BT in SA at October 06, 2008 03:23 AM (VK9mK)

71

Last Monday the Ohio Supreme Court, in a 4-3 decision, interpreted Ohio law to allow for people to register to vote and cast an absentee ballot on the same day.

(As the three dissenters noted, this directly contradicts Ohio's Constitution, which requires that a person register to vote 30 days in advance of actually casting that vote. But the Ohio Supreme Court is the last word on Ohio state law.)

So now the Obama campaign is using buses to take tens of thousands of people to go register and cast same-day votes. Some media reports say that the Obama camp hopes to get hundreds of thousands of votes this way.

Posted by: Jones CO/the next Dillinger at October 06, 2008 03:26 AM (KOkrW)

72

Wow, I checked that eligibility requirement Saturday after seeing the story and in the actual regulation there is no requirement to be registered for 30 days. I had not thought about the Constitution itself because you nromally don’t put that level of detail in a Constitution. And you are correct:

 

§ 5.01Who may vote
Every citizen of the United States, of the age of eighteen years, who has been a resident of the state, county, township, or ward, such time as may be provided by law, and has been registered to vote for thirty days, has the qualifications of an elector, and is entitled to vote at all elections. Any elector who fails to vote in at least one election during any period of four consecutive years shall cease to be an elector unless he again registers to vote
.

 

I guess I’ll have to find the case and see what kind of justification they gave. this is rather blatant.

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 03:45 AM (b1ysY)

73

>this is rather blatant.

This is Ohio. By Any Means Necessary.

Posted by: Jones CO/the next Dillinger at October 06, 2008 03:55 AM (KOkrW)

74

I see what the problem was, although I can’t find the case.  The actual law (which I found Saturday) does not match the Constitution).   The law has a loophole that allows registration and voting in a 5 day window before the election due to overlap. The law closes registration 30 days before the election, but due to differences in Absentee Voting Requirements allows them to register and vote at the same time. The actual law, which is what the court ruled on, does NOT match the Constitution which is clearly worded.http://tinyurl.com/3mklrs

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 03:58 AM (b1ysY)

75

One other thing that I did find Saturday that may mitigate this attempt to steal is that these ballots are only provisional ballots and the voters will have to provide some type of proof about their eligibility BEFORE the votes are counted.

 

Also, in addition to this steal, Steve Dooci on Fox this morning said he ran across “community activists” registering voters in NYC as they were registering German tourists to vote in NY. He asked if he could register qwithout an ID and they said sure.

Posted by: Vic at October 06, 2008 04:04 AM (b1ysY)

76 VIc,

Corrupt and it sucks, but there's no more of that as of today (w/in 30 days of the election, so even under the OH SoS rules, they would have had to do it before today).  A few hundred, maybe a couple thousand, tops. 

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