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September 30, 2007

Baseball Thread
— Ace

Why not? It's not my thing but obviously I'm in the minority. Well, actually the majority, but there's a large minority out there that's into this.

Phils ahead, Mets badly behind.

Posted by: Ace at 10:08 AM | Comments (58)
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1 Bleh. Cubs are already going to the playoffs. But I still want the Phillies to lose, just so I can throw it in the face of my old platoon sergeant.

PS SFC M, if you're reading this: Eagles suck too.

Posted by: Dr. Rock at September 30, 2007 10:34 AM (AqgrI)

2 Great, thanks. The first ever AoS baseball thread and it's essentially dedicated to pointing out the Mets suck.

Look, if I wanted to life to be easy, I'd have grown up a Yankees fan.

I knew Tom Glavine was essentially a Braves plant. It was such a brilliant move it makes me think Karl Rove is a Braves fun. Well played, Rove. Well played.

Posted by: Drew at September 30, 2007 10:39 AM (hlYel)

3 As a Braves fan, I have no love for either the Phillies or Mets, but the epic crash of the Mets is like the hilarity of the App St game spread over 3 weeks.
Good times, good times .....

Posted by: burnitup at September 30, 2007 10:43 AM (fu/qP)

4 So what are these Mets, like a JV team or what?

Yeah, livin' divida Yankees. Its like those TAG commercials, except the sex is for real.

Posted by: Iblis at September 30, 2007 10:46 AM (9221z)

5 Ha, ha, ha - fish are going to bury the Muts. That moron Reyes should have known better than to talk smack to Olivo yesterday and get these guys fired up.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 30, 2007 10:46 AM (bEmmq)

6 The Mets' collapse has been pretty amazin' to watch as a Yankees fan.

I've been trying to decide what's been a bigger choke job -- the Mets blowing a 7-game lead w/ 17 games to play or the Yanks losing 4 straight to the Red Sox with a 3-0 lead in the '04 ALCS. Right now I think it's the Mets since they lost 8 in a row at home to inferior opponents (Florida, Washington).

Go Phillies!

[Threadjack: Not baseball-related, but football-related...it's amazing the progress Kevin Everett has been making since his injury!]

Posted by: GMNJ at September 30, 2007 10:48 AM (HfPMh)

7 The biggest choke job was the Yankees in the 03' WS. I'll never forget that first at bat when JP dropped that bunt down on Wells and he just stood there walking in circles saying "what the fuck".

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 30, 2007 10:52 AM (bEmmq)

8 My roommate is a HUGE Mets fan. He has a Mets bedspread on his bed, he's that kind of fan. He burst in the room the other morning to let me know that the Cubs made the playoffs and that the Mets were 1 game back. He then proceeded to strip the bedspread off of his bed. He's hinted darkly that the baseball bat we keep in the office will be used to demolish "something" if the Mets miss the playoffs. He's that kind of fan.

Posted by: Dr. Rock at September 30, 2007 10:52 AM (AqgrI)

9 Purple -- Don't even get me started on David Wells...that fat eff who just gave up on a World Series start. He's a guy who thought he'd never have to pay for a drink in NYC ever again. Now there probably isn't a Yankees fan who wouldn't like to buy him that beer...and smash it over his head.

Posted by: GMNJ at September 30, 2007 10:58 AM (HfPMh)

10 >>I've been trying to decide what's been a bigger choke job -- the Mets blowing a 7-game lead w/ 17 games to play or the Yanks losing 4 straight to the Red Sox with a 3-0 lead in the '04 ALCS. Right now I think it's the Mets since they lost 8 in a row at home to inferior opponents (Florida, Washington).

Astonishing. A Yankee fan not thinking the Yankmes choke against the Sox in the playoffs was the biggest choke in the history of baseball.

This Mets melt down is painful but with their pitching staff they were going nowhere in the playoffs. Watching the Yankees, a team with a higher payroll than GM, implode against the Sox was like a 4 day blow job.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2007 10:59 AM (t+mja)

11 The Marlins hit Wells with a style of play he simply wasn't familiar with. National League baseball in practice is played radically different than American League.

I blame the Yankees scouts. Wells should have been made very aware that bunting for singles was something JP does on a routine basis.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 30, 2007 11:05 AM (bEmmq)

12 Curious factoid -- 7 ex-Marlins have played for the Mets today.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 30, 2007 11:16 AM (bEmmq)

13 Astonishing. A Yankee fan not thinking the Yankmes choke against the
Sox in the playoffs was the biggest choke in the history of baseball.

Guilty as charged, Jack. I may be a tad biased in my assessment of baseball history. But when you're being mentioned in the same conversation with the '64 Phillies and the Yankees loss to Boston in the ALCS, that's not good for your franchise either.

(BTW, the Yanks' loss to Detroit last year actually bothered me more because I didn't see it coming. I knew the Yanks were going to lose the series to Boston when they were up 3 games to 2 because they seemed to lose momentum and just couldn't stop Boston. Last year Detroit was hungrier and just outplayed/outmanaged them from the start, which was far less forgivable to me. Detroit was the Clubber Lang to our Rocky.)

Posted by: GMNJ at September 30, 2007 11:16 AM (HfPMh)

14 Well, the Mets have let the '64 Phillies, '69 Cubs and '78 Red Sox off the historical hook.

One small thing, the Mets suck but they have the best broadcast team. Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez just told a great story about Game 7 against the Dodgers in '88. Darling gave up 6 runs in the 1st inning of that game and he put into perspective what Glavine must be going through.

I hope they keep the broadcast team together while blowing up the team on the field and building it back up (starting with the bullpen).

Anybody want Lastings Miledge and his jackassery?

Posted by: Drew at September 30, 2007 11:27 AM (hlYel)

15 As a Braves fan watching the Mets collapse is quite pleasurable. Almost as pleasurable as a Mets/Dodgers game and both teams getting destroyed by a meteor.

Except for Glavine. He'd be the sole survivor.

Posted by: chrisbg99 at September 30, 2007 11:39 AM (sTwIA)

16 At least hockey season starts this week.

Let's Go Rangers!

(how long until pitchers and catchers?)

Posted by: Drew at September 30, 2007 11:41 AM (hlYel)

17 GMNJ-

I lost a very dear good friend this summer. Aside from suffering from the near catastrophic character flaw of being a diehard Yankee fan, he was a fantastic person and I miss him a lot.

We would talk every couple days during the season, he giving me crap about the Mets and me sticking him with every Yankee tumble. We had an ongoing bet that kept going back and forth for years and got so complicated all the economists at the Fed couldn't figure it out.

If I take any solace in this epic meltdown it's knowing that that he would calling me in the morning to give me untold amounts of shit while reveling in his Yankees comeback and to remind me that spring training is only a couple months away. And of course to raise the stakes on the '08 season. For the first time in my life, I will be rooting for the Yankees this post season.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2007 11:42 AM (t+mja)

Don't get me started on baseball.

Don't fucking get me started.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at September 30, 2007 11:46 AM (FXakj)

19 DiT...

A Texas Rangers fan? THAT can't be easy.

Posted by: Drew at September 30, 2007 11:46 AM (hlYel)

20 Fear the fish baby, fear the fish.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 30, 2007 11:58 AM (bEmmq)

21 Skankee Fans. Baaaaaahhh

Posted by: NYNastyboy at September 30, 2007 12:02 PM (LPjFl)

22 Go Phillies! Redeem Johnny Callison! Redeem Cookie Rojas!

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at September 30, 2007 12:05 PM (p0Yi7)

Here's something to set Met
fans off:

First baseman Carlos Delgado: "We've got
so much talent, I think sometimes we get bored."

Pitcher Pedro Martinez: "We have so much
talent that sometimes we relax a little bit."

"Sometimes when you're a team as talented
as we are - I don't know if I'd use the word 'bored,' but I guess you can get
complacent at times," Tom Glavine said.

Memo to Carlos, Pedro, Glavine and Billy Wagner (who said he
blew a game to the Yankees because it wasn't a save situation and he couldn't
get into it!)..obviously you're not that good.

You know who was that good? Keith, Doc, Straw, Nails, HoJo, Sid, Mookie, Kid and
the rest of the '86 Mets.They were that fucking good. And you know how they
stayed focused? They hit, pitched, drank, screwed and fought their way through
the NL.

Posted by: Drew at September 30, 2007 12:06 PM (hlYel)

24 If Wilpon doesn't can Randolph there is no God.

Posted by: ricpic at September 30, 2007 12:09 PM (tng3f)

25 ricpic,

Cool your jets on canning Willie! It's not his fault that the
Mets collapsed. Our bullpen was CRAPPPP!! Our big
bats just could'nt get a big hit when we needed it and unfortunatly G-d is a Yankees fan.

Posted by: McLovin at September 30, 2007 12:38 PM (ipez1)

26 I always suspected those damn Yankees were blessed.

Posted by: ricpic at September 30, 2007 01:05 PM (tng3f)

Master Chief Airdale, I was at a game played at Connie Mack stadium in which Callison collided head to head with Tony Taylor on a bloop into right field. They took Callison off the field on a stretcher.

One of my prized possessions was a Cookie Rojas card.

Was '64 the year Bunning had his perfect game on Fathers' Day?

Posted by: cranky at September 30, 2007 01:07 PM (7rKVk)

28 Fire Willie today. Do it in the locker room in front of everybody. Then drag him to times square and and make him sit in that plastic box like David Blaine for the duration of the playoffs and world series.

Posted by: allswell at September 30, 2007 01:41 PM (gf3we)

29 ROCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: km at September 30, 2007 02:07 PM (ZeIkZ)

30 cranky - June 21, 1964 against. . . THE METS!!

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at September 30, 2007 02:40 PM (p0Yi7)

31 There was an episode of Futurama where they showed Shea Stadium (still there in the year 3000!) with a sign outside that read "Home of the 1969 and 1986 Worl Champion Mets."

Heh.

Posted by: Sean M. at September 30, 2007 03:43 PM (XFqvL)

32 Here's something else to make a Mets fan a fuckin maniac.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at September 30, 2007 03:50 PM (FXakj)

33 Yeah. How bout them Mets, huh?

17 games out from the end, 7 games ahead of the nearest competitor for division title.

And then the wheels come off.

They lose - horrendously. No wildcard. No playoffs. Nothing.

Instead, they get to stew in their unwarranted arrogance and watch the fightin' Phils march into the postseason over their shattered corpse of a season.

Yeah Phillies! You've brought a small measure of no doubt fleeting joy to this jaded Philly sports fan.

Posted by: Good Lt at September 30, 2007 05:01 PM (y4rZ2)

34 I just got back from my post-Phillies game party. I'm lucky I can type straight. That may have been the best game I ever worked (except the '93 NLCS clincher). No fights, no cursing louts, just a bunch of stunned-but-happy people. I don't even care that the Eagles are sucking badly. I may go to an Eagles game this year, dressed in my Phillies gear, and start doing P-H-I-L-L-I-E-S chants when McNabb throws an interception.

The fact that it was the Mets that we caught makes it that much sweeter. It couldn't happen to a sweeter bunch of guys. Wagner, especially. And when the Mets fans come down to CBP next year, like they always do, they should be prepared to hear lots of coughing noises.

We're in. As the Cards proved last year, anything can happen!

Posted by: Dr. Remulak at September 30, 2007 05:51 PM (Fab1X)

35 Well done.

Posted by: Good Lt at September 30, 2007 05:57 PM (y4rZ2)

36 <blockquote>Astonishing. A Yankee fan not thinking the Yankmes choke against the
Sox in the playoffs was the biggest choke in the history of baseball.

This Mets melt down is painful but with their pitching staff they were
going nowhere in the playoffs. Watching the Yankees, a team with a
higher payroll than GM, implode against the Sox was like a 4 day blow
job.</blockquote>

I was in ecstasy with each additional Yankees loss that series. Truly, the most monumental choke ever witnessed in the history of baseball.

The Yankees have for sure had their eras of greatness.

But the 2004 ACLS choke was the worst choke ever. And the fact that it was the Yankees makes it much sweeter.

Posted by: Good Lt at September 30, 2007 06:00 PM (y4rZ2)

37 I enjoyed the Yankees choke. I was happy that the Sox did it to the Yanks and then finally won their World Series, but I really have no beef with either team, being in an NL city. But I can understand how the Sox fans felt

Having the Mets choke like this, to the Phillies benefit, is awesome. We really haven't had much of an on-field rivalry with the Mets, before this year. In seasons when the Mets would win, the Phillies usually sucked, and vice versa. But now......

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to game 1. If I had my druthers, I guess I'd rather play the Padres, Peavy won't be available until game 3.

Posted by: Dr. Remulak at September 30, 2007 06:14 PM (Fab1X)

38 We all know that it was the Magic Bat that caused the Mets collapse.

Posted by: Rod Serling at October 01, 2007 03:23 AM (WcaHz)

39 Look, if I wanted to life to be easy, I'd have grown up a Yankees fan.

Easy?

Two words: Horace. Clarke.

and don't even get me started about the Winfield years....

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 05:05 AM (FngTJ)

40 and don't even get me started about the Winfield years....

Oh boo fucking hoo. The Yankees went almost a whole 20 years between multiple World Series titles. My heart bleeds for you. And as Steinbrenner used to like to point out, even though they didn't win the Series they were the winningest organization in the 80's.

Typical Yankee fan, whiny and thinking they are owed success. Little bitches, that's all you people are.

Horace Clarke? If you want to go tit for tat on worst players in franchise history, I will simply play the Marv Throneberry card. Game. Set. Match.

Posted by: Drew at October 01, 2007 06:16 AM (hlYel)

41 Throneberry was a Yankee, dumbass. He washed out and ended up playing in Queens because he had no shame.

NEXT!

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 07:59 AM (FngTJ)

42 really... read the back of the card before you play it.

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 08:03 AM (FngTJ)

43 That's the point asshole, we had to import castoffs from the Yankees.

I can't wait to see this 200 million team washout in the playoffs. Hopefully in game 7 of the Series. It's great to see you Yankee fans get your hopes up only to be crushed under the weight of your arrogance and sense of entitlement.

BTW-What's the over/under on A-Rods total hits for the post season? My guess is the line should be set at 4 and I'll take the under.

Posted by: Drew at October 01, 2007 08:08 AM (hlYel)

44 Drew? Have you noticed that when players leave the Mutts and come to the Yankees, they tend to... y'know... no longer be considered douchebags?

Can you cite one instance where the situation is reverse?

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 08:09 AM (FngTJ)

45 43
That's the point asshole, we had to import castoffs from the Yankees.

LOCAL THIRTY NINE RESTS (and feeds salt-free peanuts to Mr. Squirrel).

"If they admit to picking through my garbage, Your Honor--and might I say, missing the pearls while concentrating on the swine--cannot I then say, by this morons own admission, "You are what you eat?"

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 08:16 AM (FngTJ)

46 You probably think the Rangers are due, too.

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 08:18 AM (FngTJ)

47 I like what you wrote earlier about the '86 Mutts. But everything else has been a pail of FAIL.

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 08:25 AM (FngTJ)

48 Al Leiter comes to mind but there were 2 teams and almost 10 years in between.

Here's a list of players who have played for both teams. Kevin Elster was a retred by the time he played in the Bronx. The same with Bob Ojeda and Jessie Orosco.

If you are thinking about Gooden and Strawberry, they were assholes everywhere they went. The two of them had so fucking much talent and they snorted it away. Fuckers.

And Cone is considered a hero by both teams.

The rest are pretty inconsequential for both teams.

Posted by: Drew at October 01, 2007 08:30 AM (hlYel)

49 I am not complaing about the Mets, I know the score of being a fan. I only objected to your tail of woe is me.

You lost me when you compared 'the Winfield years' to the tough times of being a Yankees fan.

You guys have 26 World Championships and you are positive in a just world you would have won the rest.

Posted by: Drew at October 01, 2007 08:33 AM (hlYel)

50 "And Cone is considered a hero by both teams."
Yeah, but it took the Bronx for him to find perfection. Even the Muttsies greatest player, Tom Seaver, had to get out of town to earn his due.

"I am not complaining about the Mets, I know the score of being a fan. I only objected to your tail of woe is me. "

I didn't do that. I laugh at Muttsies on a regular schedule. You guys and girls are an absolute nothing.

"You lost me when you compared 'the Winfield years' to the tough times of being a Yankees fan."

WHEN THE HELL WAS YOUR BOSS FACING AN INDICTMENT?

Sorry... didn't mean to scream...

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 10:24 AM (FngTJ)

51 I didn't do that.

Of course you did. The whole., woe is us...The Winfield years thing. Oh poor babies, you spent a lot of money on the one player in baseball everyone wanted. Booohoooo.

Or oh my God, life is sooo hard for Yankees fans, why you even had to put up with Horace Clarke as a 2nd baseman. The horror! Why you had to go a whole 18 years between championships! How did you poor babies ever survive?

It's a good thing people like you (you know, delicate emotional stability and an over developed sense of entitlement) have the Yankees. Why, if you don't make the playoffs every year and God forbid go more than a decade without winning the World Series you might faint like Victorian Era women.

Butch up, you picked the easiest team in baseball to root for, your sporting life ain't that hard.

Posted by: Drew at October 01, 2007 10:51 AM (hlYel)

52 <i>It's a good thing people like you (you know, delicate emotional
stability and an over developed sense of entitlement) have the Yankees.
Why, if you don't make the playoffs every year and God forbid go more
than a decade without winning the World Series you might faint like
Victorian Era women.</i>

Never watched Mantle gimp around the bases and heard your Da say, "Jeezus, son, that boy used to run...."

Face it, the Mutts suck, and their highlights are other teams' b-reels. For God's sake, you monkeys peddled off Tug McGraw.

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 01:40 PM (FngTJ)

53 And who here is whining like a delicate snowflake stomped in her pussy?

Not me, Mary. The sandy vagina belongs to the fan of the team from Queens.

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 01:47 PM (FngTJ)

54 Do you remember '77?

It was the best chance to beat the traitorous Dodgers' ass. Your boys could never have pulled it off.

Reggie, Thurman, Gator?

"We will kick their everloving ass three weeks from Sunday."

Posted by: TC@LeatherPenguin at October 01, 2007 02:09 PM (FngTJ)

55 "And we beat the whole world in 1978."

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