September 19, 2008

Barack Obama, Affirmative Action Hire for President
— Ace

I've been stewing about this since I first saw it on Patterico late last night -- Obama's boosters in the media yet again crying racism, this time over the fact that a McCain ad actually dares to associate Obama with his, um, associate Franklin Raines.

Who is black, as we all now know.

Cuffy Meigs is all over this. So is Hot Air.

I've been mulling how to put this, or if I should even try putting this at all. I don't want to be called racist, or play into the Boy Who Cried Racism narrative of The One.

But I think it needs to be said.

The provocative headline is maybe too provocative. What I'm getting at is not the good side of affirmative action, of course. Expanding recruiting and candidate searches to include minorities who might be otherwise overlooked; attempt to compensate for possible unconscious racism in a company or college, etc.

What I'm talking about is of course the bad side of affirmative action. The notion that is sometimes put forward that someone is owed a position simply because he is black (or, rather, is not white), and that no criticism of him can be tolerated -- again, simply because he is black.

Barack Obama continues to play this disgusting card. This isn't merely Karen Tumulty making the charge. It's quite possible she came up with this silly fart of an idea on her own.

However, we know that Barack Obama's surrogates are constantly calling the media to play the race card whenever an attack line rises that Barack Obama 1) views as a real threat and 2) does not wish to confront directly. He doesn't wish to confront it -- often because he has no good defense -- and so calls the media to peddle his tales of racism! to get his buddies in the media to bury the story. He has no answer to the charge, so he demands the media embargo the charge entirely.

Because, you know, questioning the qualifications, judgments, and longtime associations of a candidate is racist. Certainly we've never done so with any white candidates for that office!

Whether this will work as a campaign strategy, I don't know. I do know for a fact that it cannot work as a governing strategy. Presidents are pilloried on a daily basis; for god's sakes, one sixth of the country demands that George W. Bush be put on trial for murder.

And how will Barack Obama handle criticism once in office? Based on his performance so far, we can guess:

Unemployment Rate Rises to 6.3%; Barack Obama Charges It is Racist to "Associate" a Black President with a High Unemployment Rate
Slams Critics for Stirring "Age Old" Stereotypes of Black Unemployment

Vladimir Putin Flatly Rejects Obama's Call to Withdraw Troops from Lithuanian Border
Secretary of State Hints Putin Just Doesn't Like Black Men in Positions of Power

Barack Obama's Hand-Picked Head of the Resolution Trust Corporation Indicted for Embezzlement, Self-Dealing
Obama Roars Back: "This is nothing but a racial witch-hunt playing upon old fears of black presidents and white collar crime"

Senate Panel Faults Obama for "Anemic" Response to Coordinated Al Qaeda Bombings of European US Embassies
Issues Four Page Rebuttal Titled, "Is This Because I'm Black?"

Al Qaeda Acting Head Ayman al-Zawahiri Blasts "Arrogance" of US
Obama Spokesman: That's Just Using Another Word for 'Uppity'"

I can see the future, and I see nothing but excuse-making and attempts to silence critics for Obama's coming miscues and incompetencies. Franklin Raines was a Barack Obama adviser of some capacity. Franklin Raines said so himself. The Washington Post reported it-- after fact-checking, as they say they always do, with the Obama campaign itself. Franklin Raines is a corrupt bastard who lined his own pockets at the expense of the taxpayers and only barely escaped prosecution.

It is not only legitimate for McCain to mention this as Fannie may disintegrates -- it is obligatory. It would be political malpractice to not mention Obama's adviser Franklin Raines. And for Obama and his campaign surrogates and his media allies to suggest noting Obama's chummy relationship with the Marauders of the Mortgage Market is racist is intolerable. And cannot be tolerated.

And, goddamnit, will not be tolerated.

Mr. Obama, you claim we should look past the fact you don't "look like other presidents." I strongly suggest you begin looking past that too, and stop trotting out the accident of your race as an all-purpose get-out-of-jail-free card to be played whenever you're caught out in a lie, a hypocrisy, or a 20 year association with a radical hate-preacher.

Obama says that his 19 months of campaigning are a good surrogate for actual experience as President. I'm willing to accept that notion, provisionally. And what I see of Obama's "first nineteen months in office" is a nonstop stealth campaign of media spin attempting to shut down every legitimate line of questioning or criticism by crying racism.

You want to be The Man in the Arena, Obama? Stop making excuses for yourself and demanding you be graded on an Affirmative Action Curve. It's time to stand on your own two feet, whatever color they are.


Posted by: Ace at 09:54 AM | Comments (98)
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1 It's straight out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

Posted by: mpur at September 19, 2008 09:59 AM (Awx7m)

2

I am worried about the the possible racism defense in any Obama adminstration.  I dunno what to do about it except have McCain win this time.

 

At least some blacks are not blindly following him

Black protesters at Obama speech/rally.

video http://www.breitbart.tv/html/178233.html 

Posted by: ArandomPerson at September 19, 2008 10:01 AM (MSMPS)

3 The Raines ad is racist because they are showing a picture of the guy.

Raines is not an adviser to Obama.  There were other people at Fannie Mae who Obama had closer ties with.  They focused on Raines and showed a picture of him (a guy no one is familiar with at all) because he is black. 

Even if he was an adviser (he's not), why show a picture of him?  He isn't famous.  No one recognizes him.  No, you show a picture of him because you are linking a failed financial institution to two black guys. 




Posted by: Seattle Slough at September 19, 2008 10:06 AM (H5l9d)

4 One wonderful and unanticipated effect of Obama's campaign is that I'm now almost utterly numbed to the word "racist." It might as well be "mold" or "stamp" or "pencil" for all the emotional wallop it packs now.

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at September 19, 2008 10:06 AM (j02xJ)

5

This proves the statement "A racist is a conservative winning an argument with a liberal."

When Obama was ahead in the polls, there was no overt accusation of racism. Now that he's behind, there's a racist under every bed.

If you're a racist because you won't vote for Obama, then that means the 18 million Democrats who voted for Hillary during the primaries must be racists.

Posted by: Aaron at September 19, 2008 10:07 AM (NMlyI)

6

So, no one can show images of a black person that make them appear black unless it's to praise them?  But "lipstick on a pig" had an entirely innocent meaning......

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY FUCKING KIDDING ME?

There is an existential threat to free discourse exhibited in this campaign and it sure isn't coming from the McCain side.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 19, 2008 10:08 AM (B+qrE)

7

SS,

It sounds to me like you are the racist.  Good luck with that.

Posted by: Judd at September 19, 2008 10:08 AM (BXHeE)

8 Oh, and it does work, especially on idiots like SS.

Posted by: Judd at September 19, 2008 10:11 AM (BXHeE)

9 So was Obama's spanish ad with a picture of Rush racist also, SS?  They flashed his picture.  "Two white guys trying to send you to prison for being Mexican."  I'm sure that is ok in your book.  You are shameless.

Posted by: Judd at September 19, 2008 10:13 AM (BXHeE)

10

The Raines ad is racist because they are showing a picture of the guy.

Heh.  You're a fucking idiot.

Posted by: Eleven at September 19, 2008 10:13 AM (7DB+a)

11 That's one of the main problems with Obama (and his wife as well) - we don't really know how smart or effective he actually is because his entire adult career has been in areas where affirmative action influence is particularly strong. From the outside it's as likely an explanation for his success as talent is. And without accomplishments that are unquestionably due to his skill and leadership, we have to apply an affirmative action discount.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 19, 2008 10:13 AM (hn7Rm)

12 Axelrod is on a secret mission to numb the world to being called "racist," as The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap states. The best previous example? "You're a NAZI." Axelrod/Team Obama is just modernizing.

Or maybe Axelrod/Team Obama are just projecting... filthy racists. They so hate white people.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 19, 2008 10:14 AM (sI5Ho)

13 Seattle,

So the ad plays upon age-old fears that multimillionaire black CEOs are going to break into our homes and embezzle money from the corporations we're invested in?


Posted by: ace at September 19, 2008 10:15 AM (1WR4H)

14 Seattle Slough,

Nobody knows who he is

Raines is on TV all the fucking time.  He was also the director of OMB.  He's in business magazines all the time including covers. 

What the fuck are you talking about?

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at September 19, 2008 10:16 AM (MFQJZ)

15

The Washington Post reported that Raines was giving advice to Obama.  So now it's racist to rely on the Washington Post.

BTW, the Obama campaign won't call the ad racist.

Of course, they don't have to, with useful idiots like Tumulty to do their dirty work for them.

Posted by: Karl at September 19, 2008 10:17 AM (4A0kn)

16 Its also racist to show Obama and any white women in the same ad

Posted by: The Deciders at September 19, 2008 10:18 AM (daF/K)

17 Its racist to have an ad that's not complimentary toward Obama.

Deal with it.

Posted by: The Deciders at September 19, 2008 10:19 AM (daF/K)

18

Hey Seattle-

If Team Barry put out an ad with Barry and his Kenyan brother flanked by his typical white person granny, would that be racist?  Help me with the rules.

Idiot.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 19, 2008 10:20 AM (VBon8)

19 Not to worry; Obama is going down anyway... and not in the "going down nose-first towards a mirror with a rolled-up dollar bill shoved in his nose" way he's comfortable with... he's gonna get six states... maybe.

Posted by: hindmost at September 19, 2008 10:20 AM (BKlar)

20 The Raines ad is racist because they are showing a picture of the guy.

Brilliant!

...why show a picture of him?

Because that's what you do when you put stuff on television.

No, you show a picture of him because you are linking a failed financial institution to two black guys. 

And with that, you just proved Ace's point above about how Obama will handle criticism if he's elected* president. Nice to see that you're still a fucking idiot who will say anything to cover for his Leftist politicians.

*by elected, I mean steals election



Posted by: Bart at September 19, 2008 10:20 AM (w3NmV)

21 Nobody knows who he is

Apparently, personal ignorance is considered a valid liberal argument.

Posted by: toby928: Caesarist at September 19, 2008 10:22 AM (daF/K)

22

Even if he was an adviser (he's not), why show a picture of him?  He isn't famous.  No one recognizes him.  No, you show a picture of him because you are linking a failed financial institution to two black guys. 

Is it racist to say you're smoking crack?

Have you noticed that, uh, Obama is, um, black?

Are you saying the McCain camp is trying to tie a black person to Obama, and that's somehow racist? With that rule, what isn't racist? Franklin Raines was advising Obama, and he was in charge while Fannie Mae went down the toilet, and he gave himself a ton of money for doing it. And, during that period, Obama was one of the largest recipient of donations from Fannie Mae.

While setting it up that you can't accuse a politician of cronyism and backroom dealing and poor judgement because both of the people involved are black would be a pretty sweet deal, if you could do it. But I don't think Obama is going to manage it. Even middle-of-the-road white folks who initially like Obama aren't going to go for this "racist" this, "racist" that crap.

And most folks don't respond well to being bullied into pulling the lever for somebody because, if they don't, everyone will know they're a "racist". Really? It's racist to vote my conscious? Well, then, get ready to hand me a white sheet and hood, because here I go . . .

Someone else notes: If you're a racist because you won't vote for Obama, then that means the 18 million Democrats who voted for Hillary during the primaries must be racists.

Of course they are. Because Barack is black, and Hillary is white. Thus, they are inherently, without question, racists. Definitely. And so are you, if you don't vote for Barack in Obama. And so is the whole nation, if we don't elect Barack for president. And you'll pay for your racism, if Barack loses. Oh, you will pay.

Posted by: Medicinal at September 19, 2008 10:23 AM (jQS9X)

23 I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's work, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild in the street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad.

You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, not a RACIST Goddamnit! My life has VALUE!' So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE CALLED A RACIST ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to be called a racist anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to be called a racist anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it!

Posted by: Howard "Ace" Beale at September 19, 2008 10:24 AM (Q1lie)

24 Present.

Posted by: Some Guy at September 19, 2008 10:24 AM (lPxkl)

25 I have no "white guilt"
So I see with clear eyes.

K

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at September 19, 2008 10:26 AM (YxcBH)

26 I only ever criticize the devilish and conniving white half of Obama. The other side is as pure as the driven snow. Crap. That last sentence sounded a touch racist.

Posted by: coleman at September 19, 2008 10:27 AM (nz654)

27

No biggy, Seattle Slow.  The race card is no longer a face card.  We understand the need to play it, though.  The other three cards in your hand are a couple of dunces and an Aunt Esther, so go with what you got.

 

 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 19, 2008 10:27 AM (wgLRl)

28 Psst.  Don't look now, but the AP reports that Team Obama has copies of emails from the "guy not advising me, but is still black you know" to Carly Fiorina.

http://www.breitbart.com/print.php?id=D939MA9O0&show_article=1&catnum=3

"Obama's campaign says Raines is not an Obama adviser and that McCain's campaign knows it because Raines said so in an e-mail earlier this week to Carly Fiorina, a top McCain adviser. Obama's campaign provided The Associated Press with a copy of the e-mail."

The pub crawl tonight should be amazing.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at September 19, 2008 10:30 AM (AHrTm)

29
Sometimes I wonder how the hell people come up with these "That's racist!" arguments. 

In this example, there is a picture of Obama (black male) and then a picture of Raines (black male) and then a picture of an old white lady.  The Time reporter states OMG this is obviously racist!  I saw this ad a couple of times and racism never even remotely occured to me.

There are three possible explanations for this:

1) The ad really is racist.  This is ludicrous and I won't argue against it.  I leave it up to fair minded people to decide.

2) The reporter is a racial hypochondriac who is searching far and wide for any evidence of Republican racism.  (I think this is only partly it).

3) The reporter herself actually does view black men in this way.  The ad happens to feature 2 black guys and then a white woman, and the reporter in her heart feels empathy for this white woman.  I really think that this plays a part here.

I am honestly beginning to think that the MSM and the cultural left is actually racist itself.  I used to think that they would just play the "race card" as a dirty trick to further their goals.  But their obsession with race seems a little too sincere at this point for that to be the only explanation.

Posted by: dan-O at September 19, 2008 10:31 AM (teb/C)

30 Can we get to the bottom of whether Raines was part of Obama's campaign?

Wasn't Raines the head of the vice presidential search committee?

Posted by: Bart at September 19, 2008 10:32 AM (w3NmV)

31 Bart, I think the white guy they made famous today was part of the VP search.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 19, 2008 10:34 AM (wgLRl)

32 I'm one of those that is getting fucking tired of hearing the race card being put in play by Barry O the Media Ho and his handlers...if Barry was a man (and I seriously doubt it), he would stop this shit.  God forbid that he's elected POTUS - telling the American people after some major international issue that "he doesn't want work with us 'cause I'm BLACK", won't get him reelected...or friends in the world...

Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at September 19, 2008 10:35 AM (VYEVW)

33 "why show a picture of him? He isn't famous. No one recognizes him. No, you show a picture of him because you are linking a failed financial institution to two black guys."

Jane, you ignorant stupid and disingenuous slut racist. You show a picture of him because he is at the very core of the biggest domino in this housing/banking debacle we have falling around us. He was the CEO and head mismanager of Fannie Mae for at least five years and up until 2004. He was cooking the books and getting sanctioned.

You show a picture of him because he is (or was if Obama has now deemed him replaceable and thrown him under his bus) an advisor to Obama, the man who would use his team of thousands to make his decisions on this very financial crisis should he make it to the Presidency.

You show a picture of him to show the world who is partially responsible for the mess we have now and not let the crook escape artist avoid deserved scrutiny. We want his mug shot public current.

Dolt.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 19, 2008 10:37 AM (sI5Ho)

34 New Rules for ads on Obama

Obama with black men == Racist
Obama with white women == Racist
Obama with white men  == Judgment Pending...
Obama with black women  == Judgment Pending...

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at September 19, 2008 10:37 AM (MFQJZ)

35 The reporter herself actually does view black men in this way.

Close, but I don't think that's it, Dan-O. More like the Leftists try to view the McCain ads in the eyes of their fellow racist Americans. Even Seattle Slough knows the ad isn't racist. His concern is that others less enlightened than him will see Obama as, well, a black man.

So reminding Americans that Obama is black is bad for Obama, according to the Obama supporters. In other words, McCain and the nasty Republicans are "confusing" the American people and tapping into their fears by putting black people in ads that critical of Obama.

Posted by: Bart at September 19, 2008 10:39 AM (w3NmV)

36 Bart, I think the white guy they made famous today was part of the VP search.

You mean the Johnson guy? Ahh, okay.

Posted by: Bart at September 19, 2008 10:40 AM (w3NmV)

37 Ace,

Despite being ridiculous on its face, it does appear to be effective. The "racism charge" is strong enough to keep enough likely voters (mostly independents) away from McCain. Not necessarily that they are going to vote for Obama, but just stay away from McCain (i.e. vote present=stay at home.)

Still, with each passing day, I again point out that the unrelenting, escalating, and often disgusting attacks against McCain/Palin are continuing apace in the MSM.

Today, Powerline blog put it succinctly, "The [Wa]Post's news section is taking its role as an appendage to the Obama campaign to new levels on almost a daily basis."

The unanswered question is what will the MSM do for Obama after he wins and things go (very) badly for this country and our allies?

My guess is that in large part the Jews will be blamed, and from there, it's going to get ugly. But I am repeating myself. At least the events to-date appear to be holding to my predictions.

McCain better find Obama's weak spot soon or at least hope he lands one clear and devastating blow before it's too late. Otherwise, the MSM and the Soros minions will carry Obama to the finish line.

BTW, what did Obama do while he attended Columbia?

Just askin'.


Posted by: MeTooThen at September 19, 2008 10:44 AM (/47Mt)

38 "Hey, whereare all the white women at?"

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at September 19, 2008 10:44 AM (f5+lB)

39 Obama's campaign provided The Associated Press with a copy of the e-mail.

If he's not related to Obama's campaign in any way then how do they have access to his emails? Oh! Wait a minute, was this rubico's fault too?

Posted by: Rocks at September 19, 2008 10:46 AM (Q1lie)

40

It's clearly racist to see a racist race-baiting racial subtext to every racist racialist race-baiting denial from the racist sexist socialist half-minority candidate who has transcended race, you crazy bunch of race-baiting RethugliKKKan racist iceholes!

Goddamn I.N.D.'s got no class to 'em!

Posted by: doc_benway at September 19, 2008 10:47 AM (o1jjp)

41
You mean the Johnson guy? Ahh, okay.

Using that word in a post about The Chosen One Of No Particular Skin Tone is... (do I have to say it...?)

Posted by: hindmost at September 19, 2008 10:48 AM (BKlar)

42

Ace, that's a pretty good post.  I've been stewing over writing something about this for months, but have held back because, sadly, it is a delicate subject.  Its more complicated for me, because I grew up in Mississippi in the 60's and 70's, and I grew to HATE black people.  I was regularly beaten by gangs of black boys/men in high school and robbed (at gunpoint!) twice.  After I got out of the shit-hole, poverty stricken, crime-infested town I grew up in, I realized that the black people I knew were not representative of all black people.  So now I have a problem- am I disqualified from criticising blacks because I once was a racist?

Maybe.  But here is what I know.  The very precept/concept that MLK dreamed of and died for (judge me not on the color of my skin, but the content of my character) has been perverted into the exact opposite.  MLK would never have approved of racial preferences, quotas, or segregated groups like the Congressional Black Caucus, the Black Miss America Pageant, or even Ebony magazine.  Yet dare, if you will, to refer to blacks as "you people" and you won't get a pleasant response.

 The double standards are stunning, and Obama is taking great advantage of it.  He gets to inject race into the campaign at will, paint McCain as a racist, and enjoys that McCain can't even respond to accusations of racism lest he be viewed as a racist!  Yossarian himself could not have identified a better "catch-22".

As for me, I'm sick of it.  But I suppose that I'll have to wait for a conservative black man or woman (JR Watts, Michael Steele, Condi) to run for office to actually prove that being "sick of this shit" doesn't mean I'm a racist.

Posted by: Michael B. at September 19, 2008 10:50 AM (9jCYL)

43 They made fun of Obama's Johnson!?!?!?!
RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rocks at September 19, 2008 10:51 AM (Q1lie)

44 MeTooThen: "The 'racism charge' is strong enough to keep enough likely voters (mostly independents) away from McCain. Not necessarily that they are going to vote for Obama, but just stay away from McCain (i.e. vote present=stay at home.)"

Gotta disagree, here. Nothing stops any serious voter, or casual voter for that matter, from casting a vote for McCain Head Racist once the curtain closes. While some might call that the Bradley Effect, others might call it the "No freakin' way I'm voting for that lightweight and double-no freakin' way am I going to get bullied out of my voice/vote" Effect.

People don't like being called racist. They will resent and revolt. I'm counting on Team Obama to keep playing the card and the country to flush them down the toilet.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 19, 2008 10:53 AM (sI5Ho)

45 The "racism charge" is strong enough to keep enough likely voters (mostly independents) away from McCain.

I think it's exactly the opposite, and why the polls are 10-12 points off... people are going to make Obama pay for the constant charges of racism come November... they're saying now that they'll vote for him because they don't like being called "RACIST!!!" but once that election booth curtain closes behind them,  the resentment of  all those months of accusation is going to come back and bite him in the ass. The exit polls will be off for the same reason (which will of course give the lefties something else to scream about... mmmmm... popcorn).

Posted by: hindmost at September 19, 2008 10:54 AM (BKlar)

46 Listen up, you witless skinbags--Barack Obama, post-racial Messiah, is both BLIGHT and WHACK. Get it straight, morons.

Posted by: milesdei at September 19, 2008 10:54 AM (ACHxk)

47 Did I mention he's black?

Posted by: the strawman conservative in Obama's head at September 19, 2008 10:55 AM (evdj2)

48 Whatever you do, do not be niggardly in your praise for Teleprompter Jesus.  We have to be careful.  We do not want to get ourselves stuck to that racist tar baby, even if we are simply calling a spade a spade. 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 19, 2008 10:56 AM (wgLRl)

49

Seattle,

So the ad plays upon age-old fears that multimillionaire black CEOs are going to break into our homes and embezzle money from the corporations we're invested in?

Posted by: ace at September 19, 2008 03:15 PM (1WR4H)

Helpful tip for you Ace.  I keep my Microsoft common stock in a coffee can in the cupboard and my IBM preferred shares stuffed in a sock in my sock drawer.  You just never know these days.  A guy down the street got broken into and he had his Anheuser-Busch shares stolen.  You see how that turned out. 

Posted by: Big E at September 19, 2008 10:57 AM (uw1/g)

50
..... doesn't matter to me the color of his skin.



..... tho are we allowed to question the thinness of it???

Posted by: fixerupper at September 19, 2008 10:57 AM (J5Hcw)

51 One wonderful and unanticipated effect of Obama's campaign is that I'm now almost utterly numbed to the word "racist." It might as well be "mold" or "stamp" or "pencil" for all the emotional wallop it packs now.

Bingo.

And that really is what needs to happen. The One needs to be provoked into screaming "racist" every time someone criticizes him in any way so that it's finally seen as what it is; a juvenile attempt to avoid responsibility that's no different than a spoiled brat screaming "I hate you!".

I say pile on. I want the Obamamessiah to claim publicly that it's "racist" to point out what Franklin Raines did and that punishing people who cheat on their taxes like Charlie Rangel did is "racist".

Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at September 19, 2008 10:58 AM (E3Yxq)

52 The more they yell racist the less votes they get. 

Posted by: Lou at September 19, 2008 11:01 AM (RNwpX)

53 And to emphasize, the ad is racist in the eyes of liberals because it holds a black person accountable for their behavior.

That is an absolute no-no in liberal land. Only white males are guilty; black people, women, and any other minority are always innocent, regardless of what they do.

Call it the Rangel Rule.


Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at September 19, 2008 11:03 AM (E3Yxq)

54 "Raines is not an adviser to Obama."

Wrong.  The Washington Post said so. McCain didn't make it up.

"There were other people at Fannie Mae who Obama had closer ties with."

You mean like Jim Johnson?

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multimedia/Player.aspx?guid=167e0847-4068-4b0c-bacf-bea5d277ee68

 "They focused on Raines and showed a picture of him (a guy no one is familiar with at all) because he is black."

Did they show a picture of Jim Johnson, a guy most people are unfamiliar with, because he's white?

Posted by: JB at September 19, 2008 11:05 AM (qxc7J)

55

They made fun of Obama's Johnson!?!?!?!

Well I for one am interested in seeing more of Obama's Johnson and, uh, that doesn't make me a racist or a homo...I'm pretty sure.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 19, 2008 11:09 AM (hn7Rm)

56 I heard the name Raines, thought to myself 'Man, that shitty ex-editor of the NY Times got a sweetheart deal for a follow-up job'.

Posted by: thirtypundit at September 19, 2008 11:11 AM (F3M28)

57

"Seattle,
So the ad plays upon age-old fears that multimillionaire black CEOs are going to break into our homes and embezzle money from the corporations we're invested in?"

Hide your money in books

- Chris Rock 

Posted by: Michael B. at September 19, 2008 11:12 AM (9jCYL)

58 When my wife completed her MS from UMD, Raines was chief guest, and he presented my wife with the certificate. I have to find it and throw it away.

Posted by: Tushar at September 19, 2008 11:13 AM (ZqHH5)

59 I never thought I'd live to see the day when the Left would be skullfucking themselves.

Posted by: Fritz at September 19, 2008 11:14 AM (zAvxs)

60 If I'm only criticizing his white half, am I still a racist?

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at September 19, 2008 11:15 AM (jO77p)

61

>>If I'm only criticizing his white half, am I still a racist?

You are still a racist, for ignoring his black half.

Posted by: Tushar at September 19, 2008 11:20 AM (ZqHH5)

62 Arr!  This hulk be demasted and hard driven on the shoals!

Posted by: One eyed Tobias, dread of the Southern Seas at September 19, 2008 11:20 AM (evdj2)

63 If he was Barry O'Bama, white Irish guy from Chicago, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and the media would be shouting "sexism!" from the rooftops.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 19, 2008 11:25 AM (4ZOxD)

64 I'm reminded of some advice my mother used to give me. When confronted with profanity, she said to stand up to the person and tell them that you were offended by what they were saying. They would respect me for my honesty and forthrightness or some shit. Along about fourth grade, a sixth-grade bully was picking on kids and calling us dumb fuckers. I stood up to the bully and told him that profanity was offensive. So he laughed out loud and punched me in the ear. What would happen if the response to the anemic through overuse charge of racism was "So?" or more appropriately "Prove it!" Grow a pair, MSM.

Posted by: Hadlowe at September 19, 2008 11:33 AM (sxFTO)

65 #19, from your lips to God's ears. If our side wins, it may even cure my atheism.

Posted by: SGT Dan at September 19, 2008 11:38 AM (nranl)

66 Go O, go!  Youz be ma get'outa jailz free card.

Posted by: William Jefferson at September 19, 2008 11:54 AM (hzcgO)

67 Final Request:

I have avoided saying this because it's embarrassing to the site to even have to mention it in a post.

However.

If I see any more goddamned cutesy racial baiting along the lines of "niggardly," "spade," "tar baby," etc., you will be banned forever and I don't care how long you've been posting here.

I have fucking had it.  I cannot post anything along racial lines without some people getting the idea I just pushed the "Let's Find Cute Ways to Say N*gger" button.

You are embarrassing yourselves, you are embarrassing the site, you are embarrassing me and you are embarrassing the GOP.

Clean up your fucking act and save your "blue material" for joking with your kinda-racist friends.

Last.  Fucking.  Warning.

Posted by: ace at September 19, 2008 12:16 PM (1WR4H)

68 No more ebonics. 

NO FUCKING MORE.

I'm glad some of you think that 1950's era racist joking represents the apex of comedy, but I don't and I won't have it.

Find another fucking site if you don't like it.

This.  Is.  The.  Last.  Warning.


Posted by: ace at September 19, 2008 12:18 PM (1WR4H)

69 Arr! That be one mighty thread killer that be.

Posted by: One eyed Tobias, dread of the Southern Seas at September 19, 2008 12:32 PM (evdj2)

70 Sorry to beat a dead "post"...but as I said the other day in reaction to the email story, it's not Barack Obama's brown skin that prevents me from voting for him, it's his "brown shirts" that seriously creep me out. I watch the polls, and as much as I try to believe that America is just not going to elect this transparent opportunist, with each passing day, the pit in my stomach grows, as we lose another 24 hours of opportunity to unmask this man for what he truly is...I suppose what is most frightening is that no one seems to give a shit who he is anyway. Racist church? check...friends with terrorists, check...Rezko slum lord? yep..."umm umm umm ah ah"..that too...Choosing Fletch as a running mate?...this guy is no super genius, he's a goddamned hypnotist...he must be. A Soros funded animatronic fascist...johnny motherfucking bravo.

Posted by: MoronThisLater at September 19, 2008 12:33 PM (PbkDy)

71 Yes, massah.

Posted by: racist at September 19, 2008 12:33 PM (ChNUu)

72 Whew! I'm glad I read your "rules". For a second there, I though you might be referring to my observation earlier this morning that an editorial from WaPo praised J. McCain for attempting to tackle the Fannie/Fred monsters back in 2005, and pretty much called Obama a fu**ing liar.

Then I read your quote to the effect  I have fucking had it and figured you weren't chasing after me.

Posted by: alwyr at September 19, 2008 12:35 PM (UYxsF)

73 And we have our first banning.

Posted by: ace at September 19, 2008 12:42 PM (1WR4H)

74

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa.

 

 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 19, 2008 12:59 PM (wgLRl)

75 Jesus Ace, i talk southern and all, but that shit is intolerable

Posted by: wpdunn71901 at September 19, 2008 01:00 PM (2/+1I)

76

Which means "sorry", since I was one of the culprits.

 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 19, 2008 01:01 PM (wgLRl)

77 All this talk of racism makes me: http://tommcmahon.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/03/20/cody2.jpg

Posted by: sad indian at September 19, 2008 01:17 PM (blmuz)

78 Wait... Obama's black?

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 19, 2008 01:19 PM (NV3P1)

79

video http://www.breitbart.tv/html/178233.html 

 

OMGZ!!111!

There's a video of a black man on a stage full of white women.... RACIST..... and then they're having a bunch of black people thrown out of the building..... Racist!

 

Posted by: turtle at September 19, 2008 01:26 PM (ZiZaA)

80 I saved my blue material for my mildly racist friends, and they said it was so good I should tell it to my blatantly racist friends

Posted by: Frank White at September 19, 2008 01:27 PM (JYQXa)

81 What's the difference between a racist and a bucket of sludge? The bucket.

Posted by: mad pirate at September 19, 2008 01:33 PM (JLK25)

82

I"m trying to figure out what the racist rules are....

So was Money Train an okay movie with one black guy and one white guy robbing someone?

And Dead Presidents was or wasn't okay since they had like 4 black people and one white guy robbing someone?

 

Posted by: turtle at September 19, 2008 01:33 PM (ZiZaA)

83 This really is a win-win election. If McCain-Palin wins, the agony on the other side will be amazing, and delightful. If Obama wins, his gross incompetence and lack of competence is going to destroy the Democrat Party brand.

Posted by: Greg Q at September 19, 2008 01:41 PM (87k2j)

84 Having grown up in Coleman Young's Detroit, and having spent some time in Marion Barry's DC, and being as I now reside in Jesse/Jesse Jr./Obama's Chicago - I'm somewhat inured to the whole "racist" epithet. At this point, I see it as a signal flare for someone who just got caught dead to rights doing something they shouldna been doing.

Which is actually a damn shame, because it's my opinion that racism still happens in ways subtle and overt all over this country- I'm a pasty white boy married to a cute black girl (go figger, guess the Irish do get lucky now and agin) so I see racist horseshit happen way more regularly than I'd have believed, and by people both black and white that should really know better. However, bad acting cocksucking fuckfaces (trying to help with the numbers, yo) like the ones mentioned above have tried to hide behind the smokescreen of bogus "racism" for so long that when real and for true racism occurs, a bona fide accusation of same has no resonance.

Not trying to whine here, just calling it like I see it. I'm punching way, WAY above my weight class, so life is real good.

And for the record, the wife is appalled and more than a little embarrassed by ole Barky the zero. She's a big fan of Palin's though.

Ace- keep on with the bannings and the warnings. You've got one of the cleverest, funniest, and tightest blogs on these here intertubies - this cheesy tiptoeing around the magic naughty n word and the ebonics stuff is beneath both you and the most excellent posters on this site.

Posted by: er, ahhhhh, hmmm. at September 19, 2008 02:12 PM (twemG)

85 No, Greg Q, it isn't win-win. If McCain/Palin loses, we get Obama/Biden and all that implies. We've seen how the Obama campaign handles criticism and opposing viewpoints. Since the Democratic Party will doubtlessly engineer reinstatement of the the Fairness Doctrine and solidify its hold on the press, no mistake or idiotic policy decision made by an Obama Administration, however incompetent or disastrous, will penetrate the bullshit bubble generated by the magical mainstream media spin machine. If history shows anything, it shows people are easily fooled. And for the critics of the One? Please. Who knows how many reputations will be offered up on that altar--lots, I would imagine. The attacks on Sarah Palin's family and character are a preview, a warning, an example.

If we lose, we lose. There is no silver lining.

Posted by: Troy Riser at September 19, 2008 02:21 PM (cKvh9)

86

This gratuitous accusation of racism by Democrats reminds me of the book "The Turner Diaries." The storyline overall was wretched and forgettable, and you young'uns may not be aware of it and it's supposed connection to the 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing, but one passage that stuck in my memory contained a scene where a woman was forced to submit to the sexual demands of a group of black men. She submitted not because they threatened to physically harm her but instead they called her a racist for not wanting to have sex with a black man.

Granted, it was a piece of alarmist, intolerant fiction, but in this day of racial McCarthyism, such a situation does not seem too far-fetched.

Posted by: Aaron at September 19, 2008 02:21 PM (NMlyI)

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 19, 2008 03:50 PM (NV3P1)

88 Man. Go out for a few beers and you miss EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Wilhelm Klink at September 19, 2008 04:10 PM (GGhvX)

89

Raines is not an adviser to Obama.  There were other people at Fannie Mae who Obama had closer ties with.  They focused on Raines and showed a picture of him (a guy no one is familiar with at all) because he is black. 

Sounds like it's simply racist to show imagery of a black man involved in a scandal of titanic proportions, even if it, you know, makes the advertisement a lot more effective than simply throwing the guy's name around with a test pattern running in the background.

Thanks for proving our point.  You know, the one where it's racist simply to say anything negative about a "person of color".  Hopefully the McCain camp is doing a re-write with Bob Saget's face CGI'd in over Raines' just to set things right.  Johnny Mac can go back to doing ads featuring black folks as soon as he wants to celebrate their awesomey awesomeness.

Cretin.

Posted by: VJay at September 19, 2008 05:10 PM (kico6)

90 "Even if he was an adviser (he's not), why show a picture of him?"

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm because it's NOT RADIO???????????

Posted by: Huck Foley at September 19, 2008 06:21 PM (4B3ry)

91 STAMP OUT RACISM END AFFERMATIVE ACTION

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at September 19, 2008 07:36 PM (k8WMF)

92

Once a minority child can grow up without a relatable story of racism from their parents, then can we discuss ending affirmative action. Enough time has not passed since the last firehose was sprayed. The fact is that some of us still look at black people as only poor criminals or rich athletes. If you think for one second this is true, then please understand that you are the reason affirmative action exists.

Posted by: Majk at September 19, 2008 11:58 PM (QdB4X)

93 This racism issue is covered pretty well in the Blog, Sweetness & Light... Comments from two people who worked with Obama and their varying viewpoints about Obama's 'memories of racism as reported in his book, Dreams From my Father. http://sweetness-light.com/archive/did-obama-turn-down-a-wall-street-career

Posted by: Mary RN at September 20, 2008 04:55 AM (vt8OU)

94 I posted similar thoughts at my place 6 days ago.

Posted by: Rick at September 20, 2008 01:51 PM (B3z3J)

95 You aren't really keeping the first black man from being President...Communists don't come in colors.

Posted by: Hans at September 20, 2008 06:10 PM (PlxT8)

96

Please folks: if you're gonna comment on the TV ads (notice, that was pural) re: the relationship the Obama campaign formally maintained with prior CEOs (again, plural) of Fannie and Freddie it would be nice if someone bother to notice that both CEOs were indeed pictured - just in seperate videos.  Raines was no more singled for his race than Johnson,

Nice try WaPo & d'Obama campaign. But dis dog ain't gonna hunt . . . ever!

Posted by: Russ at September 20, 2008 11:35 PM (2tgz5)

97

This is the single most pitiful waste of time I have seen in all of my years on the planet. Barack is a human being. He is not perfect. He is going to be totally void of any issues. Clearly however, upon researching the candidates extensively he is clearly the better choice for president.

 

I am sick of people talking about the race card when we, as white people bring it out just as much as black people do. I don't see anyone talking about McCains ties obsessively? I don't hear the keating 5 thing everyday by the Obama campaign. Yes, he was found guilty of having poor judgement although he was exonerated of wrong doing. Clearly, he associated with some unsavory people. He has donated money to the YPM and we know they trick democrats into registering republican. He has donated money to terrorist too. Yet, we don't see that. All I hear is this POW nonsense. That is great and all, but that doesn't make you a good choice for president. Frankly, the pick of his running mate is the biggest joke in washington and will fracture the entire party. Yet, we want to obsess about who Obama knows? Please, let's move on from this nonsense.

Posted by: joethewhiteman at October 30, 2008 08:27 AM (h9H5c)

98 is hujihua sheng sdfa?

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