August 31, 2008
— Ace Another Update (See Far Below): DU Says: "Now We Move on to the Daughter"
A wisp of a leaf of a twig of a pixie, I tells ya.
Another obviously photoshopped picture of Gov. Palin wearing her tin-foil fat suit here.
This picture shows that Governor Palin is about to give birth to six pounds and eight ounces of right-wing Xtianist hatred.
These people ought to be ashamed. But they haven't any.
Thanks to Brett. Brett Weir! more...
— Open Blog USA Today headlines that Palin supported the bridge to nowhere, suggesting that she lied in her first public speech as VP candidate.
While running for governor in 2006, though, Palin backed federal funding for the infamous bridge, which McCain helped make it a symbol of pork barrel excess.
There doesn't appear to be any "there" there, however:
Asked why she supported the bridge, Palin's communications director Bill McAlister said, "It was never at the top of her priority list, and in fact the project isn't necessarily dead there's still the potential for improved ferry service or even a bridge of a less costly design."
She changed her mind, he said, when "she saw that Alaska was being perceived as taking from the country and not giving, and that impression bothered her and she wants to change it. I think that Sarah Palin is someone who has the courage to reevaluate situations as they developed."
The headline will frame the issue however, describing Palin as just another hypocrite sucking up earmarks.
Are McCain and Palin savvy enough to predict and counter these sorts of leftist spin tactics from the mouthpiece of the DNC? It is an effective strategy to offer your opponent an arm, then when they overextend, give them a nudge into a tumble. If McCain's strategists have grokked that this is not the Media they thought they knew, they can use this particular bit of campaign judo again and again.
UPDATE: DrewM notes that according to this article, the 400 million was not actually diverted from Alaska at all. Rather, Congress killed the earmark, but allowed Alaska to keep the money to be used in other transportation spending.
Congresses head-fake on the issue in my mind reflects more poorly on them than on Palin, but keeping the money does seem to water-down her reformer credentials, and as Drew says, wouldn't have been nearly the applause line as "We told them no thanks, we'll do it ourself."
— Ace However, Obama's back where he was: Up by three.
— Ace I've written a bunch of the heavy hitters in the right-leaning respectable blogosphere to suggest a full boycott of linking Sullivan, forever.
Yes, I wrote, if you need to refute "Milky Loads Power Glute's" daily dose of dementia, do so; quote and critique with attribution. But don't link. Let anyone compelled to go to his site type in the URL and find the post themselves.
This miserable Taker of Milky Loads screamed bloody murder when his own privacy was invaded; note how the Queen of Hypocrisy turns on a dime when he has the chance to probe someone else's Power Glutes of Load-Taking.
There is a limit, and our addled attention-whore of perpetual drama went beyond that a while ago. Now he's way beyond it. He is not a serious commentator; he is a vicious bridge-troll of a propagandist, a nasty little rotten-hearted bitch who gets his jollies assailing a sixteen year old girls because her mom threatens his wannabe boyfriend's chances of being elected.
He seems to have suffered the onset of full-on mental dementia. Since we're airing "uncomfortable theories" of a medical type here which need to be explored, I doubt there is anyone on the blogosphere who hasn't wondered -- frequently -- if Sullivan is suffering from AIDS-related dementia.
Ugly, yes, but we're all thinking the same thing; and as we're now apparently free to speculate about such ugly things, I see no reason why Sullivan should be further shielded.
He's gone fucking bananas, due to AIDS or steroids or other reasons, and if we're not observing a minimum level of politeness and civility anymore -- if innocent 16 year old girls are now valid targets -- I see no reason to continue extending the courtesy of polite silence to Sullivan.
True, he writes like a 16-year-old girl, only without as much emotional control and even-keeled restraint; but he is, supposedly, an adult man. If a child is to be subjected to this by Sullivan, then Sullivan can hardly cry foul.
(Oh, but he will, of course! And that's the sickest thing about this. Our Queen of Perpetual Narcissistic Self-Fascination will whine like a bitch about this post, and castigate others for linking me. Because I wrote stuff about Sullivan one-half as nasty as he's writing about a 16 year old girl. )
Let's see a brain scan, buddy. Let's get some answers to these questions. Medical fucking answers.
He is now simply regurgitating the most vicious smears he dredges up from Democratic Underground and Kos.
There's a point at which people have to say "Enough." For Sullivan, we're well past that time. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
It's with a heavy heart I personally cast out this "brave" "conservative" "thinker," but what are you going to do. A brain-addled conspiracy crank unable to observe the minimum levels of respectability and human decency is simply not fit for polite company.
And neither, quite frankly, are his (innocent) cobloggers at The Atlantic. They're innocent in this, of course -- Jefferey Goldberg took Sullivan to task for his increasing comfort with open Jew-baiting (as opposed to the closeted Jew-baiting he used to indulge in), and Ross Douthat lit him up for sheer hypocritical ridiculousness, and I doubt Megan McArddle is exactly proud to share a masthead with this piece of shit -- and yet nevertheless they need to be boycotted, too, until the Atlantic fires him.
He should be blogging at the Daily Kos. That's where he belongs, and it's about time respectable magazines stopped treating him as anything more than a particularly nasty, particularly excitable, and likely brain-damaged Kos diarist.
Email of the Day: Hey, if the narcissist Sullivan can post emails praising himself all day, why not me?
The Rev. E. Buzz Miller parodies Sullivan's (most likely self-penned) praising emails here. I defy you to distinguish between this and Sullivan's typical "emails of the day."
This, sir, was a post that was a Grand Slam in Oakeshottian, Burkean terms, sir, total unequivocal, irrefutable, unassailable, incontrovertible, impeccable Grand Slam of a post.
What a marvelous, excellent post, I haven't ever seen a post like this that flows and has such emotional power that I am just left speechless at how, just how, actually, really good it is.
BTW: Not only are there pictures which show Palin appearing quite pregnant (or at least having gained about 40 "Mystery Pounds" for no good reason), but apparently there are also bloggers writing about meeting Palin in person back in April, reporting her as "pregnant."
I guess they just wrote that stuff in anticipation of the left's upcoming attack.
Oh -- and of course Palin was wearing a fat-suit.
I don't expect Milky Loads to have much discernment about the female form.
Remember, this was the guy who freaked out at the thought of using red ink as fake "menstrual blood" to get terrorists to talk. He'd never heard of something so terrifyingly awful.
Oppose the people, or oppose the vaginas? I guess with Sullivan it is, as they say, "overdetermined." (Fake menstrual blood -- aiiieeee!)
See-Dub's on Board: Michelle Malkin's coblogger won't link Drama Queen.
As regards to a couple of people I wrote: They wrote back, basically, "Dude, that's been my policy for, like, forever."
The people have the right to know what sorts of shady sexual shit supposedly "respectable" "conservative" "analysts" are into. How can we trust the judgment of someone who wants to take Milky Loads in his Power Glutes?
It's about time we aired this important issue.
It's about the hypocrisy and judgment, you understand.
Not merely cheap smears. No way.
Thanks to, um, Masturbatin' Pete.
Sullivan Makin' Friends All Over: A rep from the gay community checks in:
No condemnation from the gay community necessary. The Gay Left abhors him (still) for his former conservatism and endless moralizing about gay male behavior (until, that is, he was caught milking anything encountered in an alley). Gay conservatives can't stand him because, well, look at him.
One imagines the only gay person who approves of Sullivan would be whomever he's sitting on just at the moment, and even then the opinion is likely to be middling (and not necessarily from his own husband).
Remember when Sullivan wrote about how gay men would stray during marriage and that that was perfectly a-ok?
I think it requires some "airing of the questions" now that he's legally wed. You know, word vs. practice and all that. For the sake of the issues, you understand.
I really dislike McCain and was not going to vote for him. With the entrance of Palin to the race, I officially went back on the fence. Sullivan just tipped me over the to the Republican ticket. Fuck him.
Okay, that's misleading, that's Robbie from the Malcontent, who hates Sullivan almost as much as I do. So, honestly, I have to say his opinion doesn't really count as "new hatred."
But seriously, Milky Loads is a fucking bitch.
Incidentally, Robbie had me on his podcast one time to discuss our mutual Sullivan-hatred, but he, um, forgot to record it.
Seriously. I talked to this fucking numbnuts for an hour about Andrew Sullivan and he hadn't pushed the record button. Just kind of spaced on the whole "recording" part of the plan.
Nothing lost. It's not like my views on Power Glutes Andy haven't been publicized.
— Ace One thing those beatin' on Palin ought to keep in mind: John McCain doesn't get a vice president if he doesn't get elected president in the first place.
Thanks to CJ.
— Ace Sure, sure. And I'm sure Michael Moore was being equally facetious and satirical when he said the same thing. And James Wolcott, too, a few years back, cheering on hurricanes as Gaia's vengeance against the virus mankind.
Everything's cool, yo:
"One doesn't anticipate that one's private conversation will be surreptitiously taped by some right-wing nutcase," said Fowler. "But that's the nature of what we're dealing with."
Fowler, a superdelegate who endorsed Hillary Clinton in 2007, was caught on tape saying: "The hurricanes going to hit New Orleans about the time they start. The timing is -- at least it appears now that itll be there Monday. That just demonstrates that Gods on our side. [Laughter] Everythings cool."
Who's the nutcase?
Via Hot Air, where, in case you didn't see it, it's noted that Alan Colmes is attempting to get Trig Trutherism off the ground a bit, by pushing a let's-ask-some-questions angle (gee, shoudn't Sarah Palin have immediately have gotten antibiotics when her water broke instead of boarding a plane to have her own doctor deliver the baby, hmmm, hmmm? (wink wink)).
And on Trig Trutherism: Here's the very obviously not-pregnant Palin in March.
You know the next step, right?
Pictures of pregancy/fat suits and comparisons to Palin's shape. With lots of detailed analysis, demonstrating that Palin must have been wearing this or that particular fat suit for a couple of months.
— Ace Knocking down unfair criticisms and acknowledging fair ones.
ZOMG She Wore a Funny T-Shirt in College!!1!!11! The left hasn't jumped on this... yet.
More pics at the NY Daily News. Family shots and etc. No Sarah Palin binkin photos, alas.
Oh, and as other bloggers can attest, a search getting a lot of work these days is Is Sarah Palin a jew zionist and variations thereupon.
Thanks to Slublog.
— Ace Apropos, given the current contretemps.
We may be seeing the first woman president. As a Democrat, I am reeling, said Camille Paglia, the cultural critic. That was the best political speech I have ever seen delivered by an American woman politician. Palin is as tough as nails.
And see Andy McCarthy's criticism of Brookheiser; and Brookheiser reformulating his nasty put-down into a more productive critique of Palin, and most of it, really.
Actually, for all the anger directed at The Corner, I've just been reading it, and I'm finding it pretty pro-Palin. There are reservations expressed, yes, and Brookheiser is aggressively antipathetic, but mostly... I guess I just don't know what all the fuss is. It's a reasonable debate.
I say again: Anyone who's claiming they have no concerns about Sarah Palin's ability to handle foreign policy questions and answer the Readiness to Take Charge question is, well, either fooling themselves or trying to fool others. I love 'er, but the fact is I have concerns. I want -- more than want, really -- her to answer these questions decisively. I have a sneaking, hopeful idea she will. (She is furiously aggressive and talented; she is not going to be snoozing on this stuff.)
But these questions are on people's minds, and it serves no purpose whatsoever to pretend they don't exist or are illegitimate or obviously ill-founded. Or offered in bad faith.
On the left, hell, bad faith is their stock in trade. After arguing that the Senator from Community Activism was obviously qualified to be President because he's, um, well, something or other, it's pretty bad faith to now deride a serving governor as unqualified.
But those on the right have been stressing the importance of obvious, clear experience and readiness -- so it's not bad faith at all for some on he right to continue insisting on this as the most important qualification of all.
Thanks to Mister Brickhouse, who notes the LA Times ran the photo "to scare the metrosexuals."
— DrewM Rick Davis is speaking now. Tomorrow's events will only be a brief business meeting. No speeches, etc.
The RNC says they are going to fly Gulf Coast delegates home (or as close as they can get, I guess) and will decide day by day on how much of a program they will have. It will all depend upon events down south.
Apparently according to the party's rules and charter they have to meet to basically keep the party in business as an organization, so they will do the minimum required to meet their legal obligations.
Before Davis spoke Sen. McCain spoke about the general tone of the upcoming convention.
We must redirect our efforts from the really celebratory event of the nomination of president and vice president of our party to acting as all
Americans. Well change our program and Ill be announcing details of it in
the next few hours. But theres very little doubt that we have to go from
a party event to a call to the nation for action, action to help our fellow
citizens in this time of tragedy and disaster, action in the form of
volunteering, donations, reaching out our hands and our hearts and our
wallets to the people who are under such great threat from this great
natural disaster. I pledge that tomorrow night, and if necessary,
throughout our convention if necessary, to act as Americans not
Republians, because America needs us now no matter whether we are
Republican or Democrat.
I'm not saying that McCain looks at this as an advantage but it definitely plays in to his 'Country First' theme. What's the result of having a truncated national convention? No one knows. We'll find out over the course of the next few days.
Just for the sake of comparison, here's former DNC head Don Fowler talking with a sitting Democratic Congressman about the Gustav/RNC convergence.
That video was swiped from last night's post by Dave in Texas.
— Open Blog I spent some time this morning (all of 10 seconds on Google) hunting down Brendan Loys blog regarding this storm. You may recall that he had some excellent and comprehensive coverage during Katrina three years ago (and even got a little famous from it) on his blog Irish Trojan. That blog no longer exists, but hes split it up into two separate ones.
The one were concerned with for this post is called Weather Nerd. Hes got a fairly comprehensive set of links there along with a couple of updates which seem a little more hopeful concerning NOLAs impending doom.
Im trying to track down my other favorite blog from Katrina which was done by the head of security of an ISP in downtown NOLA, in a high-rise bulding, during the worst of the storm and its aftermath. If anyone can remember the name of that firm, whether they still even exist and are doing the same thing this time, please stick it in the comments so I can update this. That blog read like a thriller at the time.
Mr. Loys other, more general blog is called Ash Blog Durbatuluk, subtitled One Blog to Rule Them All. Hes an attorney, so maybe thatll keep Gabe busy for a while. If you decide to visit, try not to act like the baboons you usually are and shit all over the furniture.
Update #1 In the comments, Brass has been following Bayou Renaissance Man which looks like another good link. Keep posting them and I'll add to the list as they come in.
Update #2 Here's some more good links:
Dr. Jeff Master's WunderBlog at Weather Underground. Thanks to MesaBlue (WU is generally my go-to site for all things weather related)
NOLA.com which also did a killer job of reporting during Katrina. Thanks to SlaveDog (I didn't know Laura's pets were allowed to comment...go figure).
John Doh reminds me that the ISP firm that did the hairy-ass liveblogging during Katrina was "Interdictor" (which is also a class of Sith Cruisers from Star Wars...who knew?) It doesn't appear they're liveblogging this time. They might still have the old archives from Katrina on their site which is here. Good reading.
Update #3 More more more!
National Hurricane Center's site (NOAA) courtesy of Dave (but not the one who seems to be cursed to live in Texas)
Ridin' Gustav which appears to be a live barblog from NOLA. You can also chat with him on Yahoo if you're so inclined. Thanks to Arthur .
Flashback: As I'm watching (well, sort of ignoring) current coverage on FNC, I see that Shepard Smith is currently stationed in NOLA, ready to take action again. Can Shep rise to the occasion again, along with his fellow soldiers Coop and Scar? Or have we asked too much of them? Is it fair to ask them to put their outrage on the line again, after so little time? Only three years have passed and I question whether or not the mental scars have healed, but again, they've been called to serve, uh...something.
I ask you to revisit the story of these brave men as documented by Howard Kurtz a mere three years ago.
May God help them in their trials and tribulations to come over the next few days. None of us, sitting in the comforts of our homes tonight, can possibly understand the depth of feelings and outrage and lack of make-up departments they are about to go through on these unforgiving assignments.
— Ace Some are bothered by the Palin-skeptics at NRO. Rebut their arguments here.
— Ace I just closed the NRO thread.
For one thing, I don't like piling on political allies just because they (honestly) disagree.
For another, as a reader wrote, doing so seems to suggest we're not interested in debate or dissent, but get angry when our political champions are challenged. We see this sort of thing from the Obamabots. We're better than that.
For a third thing, even though we never get linked by NR and I really don't know anybody over there, it just seems impolitic and impolite. The personal attacks seem over the line to me.
Let me know if you think I'm wrong.
— Purple Avenger Ace: I'll reopen the thread with a couple of provisos.
One, keep it a bit lighter in tone or less personal as regards good-faith criticisms.
Two, bear in mind it reads a little Obamabot-ish to see people torn a new one because they aren't as enthusiastic about Palin as you might be.
Three, restrict personal attacks to those who've attacked you on a personal level. Far as I can tell, the only person at NRO to have done this is Brookheiser. As he insulted pretty much the whole of the conservative base in fairly personal terms, he invited a similar response.
Four, I'm going to delete some of the over the line comments, and I hope not to see similar comments.
Five, bear in mind I'm not blaming anyone, really. I didn't start this thread. I understand it's called a flame thread and that implies, well, flames. But I don't think it's a good idea, and would have said so if asked beforehand. I just don't think it's either smart or fair to rip political allies (and good people, mostly, I think) for having an honest disagreement. I'm not scolding anyone, I'm just explaining (and, um, enforcing) my belief that it's just not a terrific idea to tear the ass out of NRO because some of their writers aren't on board with Palin (and one is a prick about it).
Retired (Not Gay) joined in the intended spirit of the thread and took a meant-to-be-funny shot at a Cornerite. I'm not blaming him -- it was a Flame thread -- I'm just expressing my strong belief that this is simply a bad idea, a bad road to go down.
— Gabriel Malor This story got lost in all the convention coverage last week.
Farmers Branch, TX, a suburb of Dallas, has been trying for several years now to reduce the effects of illegal immigration in the city. In 2006 the city council passed ordinances to designate English the official language, to train police officers in immigration enforcement, to fine businesses who employ illegals, and to fine landlords who rent to illegals. The ordinance was then passed by a voter referendum 68% to 32%.
The city was promptly sued in federal district court and years of litigation resulted. The rental restriction has faced the most criticism. It requires landlords to obtain and keep evidence that tenants are U.S. citizens or legal residents.
Last Thursday, Judge Sam Lindsay issued a final judgment against the city declaring the rental ordinance unconstitutional and unenforceable. He ruled that it infringed upon the plenary power of Congress in immigration matters and that its use of the phrase "eligible immigration status" was too vague to meet the requirements of due process.
Farmers Branch isn't done yet. It already passed a replacement ordinance which would go into effect 15 days after a final judgment.
Ordinance 2952 [the replacement ordinance], by contrast, would require prospective renters to pay $5 to the city and declare their citizenship or legal U.S. residency to obtain a license to rent a house or apartment. Landlords could rent to anyone with a license. The city would be responsible for checking the tenants' information against a federal database to confirm their legal status.
This one was designed to avoid the constitutional deficiencies identified by the judge. It doesn't place any burden on landlords to decide the immigration status of prospective tenants, nor does it give that power to the city government. Instead, it simply withholds a rental license from anyone the federal government doesn't have listed as a legal resident. Increasingly, courts have upheld state and local laws involving immigration so long as they leave actual immigration enforcement or determinations of immigration status to the federal government.
Lawsuits are already pending over the replacement ordinance. Incidentally, Judge Lindsay has made statements that indicate to me he's already come to a conclusion on it:
"The new ordinance is yet another attempt to circumvent the court's prior rulings and further an agenda that runs afoul of the United States Constitution," he said at the time.
By coming to a hostile conclusion before the replacement ordinance even became operative, is it reasonable for the city to ask if he can carry out his duties with integrity and impartiality?
— Russ from Winterset Lindsey Graham disagreed with putting her on the ticket. I was just watching Bob Schieffer with CBS News reporting live from St. Paul, and he did a piece with David Brooks from the NYT where they listed all the negatives about the Palin selection.
They actually referenced Lindsey Graham's displeasure as a negative? Hello? Are these guys fucking paying attention anymore? Jeebus, citing Lindsey Graham as a barometer of what the Conservative Base of the Republican Party thinks is sort of like citing Saddam Hussein as an expert in land warfare tactics.
"Hey Senator McCain. There's someone on line 2 who claims that he's the French Minister of Defense, and he's using a *makes quotation signs in the air with his fingers* time machine to call you from 1939. He thinks that Sarah Palin is the worst choice you could have made, but I'm not sure who he thinks you should have picked. He keeps mumbling something about some Maginot dude. Didn't we vet him back in April?"
— Open Blog Maybe I have been living the AoSHQ lifestyle for too long but after viewing the Ortega Taco Sauce commercial below, I am convinced that it contains x-rated subliminal advertising. Whatever it means, it must be effective because I just bought 29 gallons of taco sauce at Costco. Judge for yourself...
August 30, 2008
— Russ from Winterset If Hurricane Gustav makes landfall as a Category 3 or higher hurricane, should the Republican National Convention be cancelled or postponed to avoid being seen celebrating while homes are being destroyed?
I can see some of the concern here, but let's face facts: Even if the Republican Party called off the party, shipped all their delegates to the Gulf Coast to fill sandbags, and donated the whole RNC/McCain campaign war chest to disaster relief, the Mainstream Media would STILL find a way to blame them personally for any damages that occur. There's no way that a genuine show of concern from the Republican Party will get ANY credit at all, so why worry about what the media will say?
Grow a pair, go ahead with your convention, and proceed to go after Obama & Biden like they're a cross between "rented mules" and "red-headed stepkids" (Rented stepkids? Red-headed mules?). Maybe if the Republicans start acting like adults and stay focused on the big picture, the public will finally realize that "feeling your pain" is a bullshit way of saying "I care about your misfortune, but not enough to let you keep an extra 5% or more of your gross income so that you could start saving for a rainy day".
But what the hell do I know? I don't have focus groups and pollsters.
— Ace That's the good news.
The bad news: It's Zogby.
— DrewM Its almost inconceivable that everything that has been done to rebuild that area in the last 3 years may very well be blown away.
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin ordered a mandatory evacuation of the city beginning 8 a.m. Sunday but urged residents to consider escaping "the mother of all storms" before then.
"You need to be scared," Nagin said of the Category 4 hurricane tearing along Cuba's western coast. "You need to be concerned, and you need to get your butts moving out of New Orleans right now. This is the storm of the century."
The city's west bank is to evacuate at 8 a.m.
Nagin said the city had evacuated roughly 10,000 people Saturday on buses, trains and planes. Buses from collection points would continue running until midnight and resume at 6 a.m. Sunday, he said.
Gustav hit Cuba tonight but wasnt expected to weaken much and is predicted to strengthen when it gets into the Gulf of Mexico.
Obviously the danger to life and property is the most important part of this story but there is a political element as well.
The Republican ticket of McCain/Palin will be heading to Mississippi on Sunday to see how storm preparations are coming along and quite frankly since there's not much they can do, to be seen to be caring.
More importantly for them however is the affect the storm will have on the Republican convention. At this point landfall is predicted for Monday evening and no one will wants to see a party going on while lives are in danger.
Louisianan Governor Jindal was scheduled to speak at the convention but he along with other officials from across the Gulf Coast region will obviously be staying home to deal with the emergency. President Bush and Vice President Cheney were scheduled to be in St. Paul on Monday but obviously those plans are subject to change.
This is a pretty unprecedented situation in recent history so there is talk of turning the convention into a relief drive but McCain in an interview with FNC raised the possibility of suspending the convention entirely.
"It wouldn't be appropriate to have a festive occasion while a near tragedy or a terrible challenge is presented in the form of a natural disaster," McCain told Wallace.
McCain said that he has been in touch with the governors of the Gulf Coast stateswhere Gustav is expected to make landfalland that his campaign would continue to monitor the now-Category 4 storm.
"I'm afraid, Chris, that we may have to look at that situation and we'll try and monitor it. I've been talking to Governors Jindal [La.], Barbour [Miss.], Riley [Ala.], Crist [Fla.], I've been talking to all of them," McCain told Wallace. "So we're monitoring it from day to day and I'm saying a few prayers too."
Eventually the politics will shake themselves out. In the meantime, good luck to everyone in the target line, especially any members of moron nation.
— Purple Avenger Interesting, because this is a decidedly non-Tiffany's demographic Obama wants to appeal to - the poor and middle class he claims he wants to "help". For whatever reason, they ain't buying his pitch so far.
Among those who said they shop regularly at Wal-Mart - a demographic group that Zogby has found to be both "value" and "values" voters - Obama is getting walloped by McCain. Winning 62% support from weekly Wal-Mart shoppers, McCain wins these voters at a rate similar to what President Bush won in 2004. Obama wins 24% support from these voters.And 22% of Hillary supporters are claimed to be going off the reservation too:
The interactive survey shows that 22% of those voters who supported Democrat Hillary Clinton in their primary elections or caucus earlier this year are now supporting John McCain.Come to WalMart for the low prices, stay for the hot VP. What's not to like?
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