August 06, 2011

Worst Boss Ever
— LauraW

Please go to the link and read the whole thing. It's worth it.

[text removed because I'm told the link is on a RightHaven block list -lw]

This guy was obsessed with Ms. Anderson's breasts and made them a constant subject of conversation around the office. Because she is single, he had no fear of some husband coming around to make him eat his own teeth.

Nothing like having to constantly fend off a filthy satyr when you're just trying to support your family.

Disgusting, just awful.

Despite a cursory, thirty-second internet search, I was unable to turn up any pics of Ms. Anderson's stupefying gazongas. Sorry.

But I did find something stupid and boob-related for you below the fold.

Thanks to skinbad.

Posted by: LauraW at 06:54 AM | Comments (135)
Post contains 115 words, total size 1 kb.

1
we can't help it; it's like they're staring at us

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 06, 2011 06:56 AM (P/N2O)

2 Link broken? It gives an error.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 06, 2011 06:58 AM (xNnAQ)

3 Love the 'experienced' tittehs.

Posted by: fluffy at August 06, 2011 06:59 AM (4Kl5M)

4 Works okay for me- anybody else having problems with the link?

Posted by: lauraw at August 06, 2011 06:59 AM (UlsYR)

5 Link works for me.

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at August 06, 2011 07:01 AM (zxrQh)

6 Boss story & video both working. Would you like to rub your hump against me?

Posted by: fluffy, worst commenter ever at August 06, 2011 07:02 AM (4Kl5M)

7 Mine work. I mean my computer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 06, 2011 07:03 AM (UlUS4)

8 Haha...William Fichtner in the titty video rocks!  One of my fav character actors.

Posted by: EC at August 06, 2011 07:03 AM (f4TZ2)

9 But not the link. Did she work for the gubmint? Congressional Democrat page, peut-etre?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 06, 2011 07:04 AM (UlUS4)

10 Tits or GTFO

Posted by: Mortis at August 06, 2011 07:04 AM (I8CPt)

11

Worked for me.

Utah County, huh? Do we know anyone there??

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 06, 2011 07:04 AM (XdlcF)

12 I replaced the link, hopefully this will work for everybody.

Posted by: lauraw at August 06, 2011 07:04 AM (UlsYR)

13 Or best boss ever. Depends on your point of view, I suppose.

Posted by: lorien1973 at August 06, 2011 07:04 AM (usXZy)

14

 in 2007...

...Wright retaliated by firing her in February 2011

Clearly she was asking for it by staying there for so long.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 06, 2011 07:06 AM (XdlcF)

15 Works okay for me- anybody else having problems with the link?

Posted by: lauraw at August 06, 2011 11:59 AM (UlsYR)

I get an error message

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2011 07:06 AM (M9Ie6)

16 "Mini-skirt Monday," "Tube-top Tuesday," "Wet T-shirt Wednesday," "No bra Thursday" and "Bikini top Friday,"

See, this looks like a fun place to work, really. Although, for fun, i'd probably throw in the occasional Teddy Thursday to lighten the mood. Finding a new tube-top every week could get stressful.

Posted by: lorien1973 at August 06, 2011 07:07 AM (usXZy)

17 I like this guys style. But first you'll blow me. Sugar tits.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at August 06, 2011 07:07 AM (iqivf)

18 Yeah, something here doesn't smell right. She worked 4 years in this hellish environment? In the 21st century, she somehow wasn't aware there are airtight laws regarding this stuff, and just figured she'd have to take it because he's the boss? Right. Of course, companies with strict rules regarding sexual harassment don't generally have outcomes that are quite the same as lawsuit lottery cases, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2011 07:08 AM (Gc/Qi)

19 OT:  You call them Biden and Obama.  I call them Pinky and the Brain.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 06, 2011 07:09 AM (TVvXc)

20 [excerpt deleted -lauraw] Jesus! If she even has one cooberating witness she owns this guy and will never have to work again.


Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2011 07:09 AM (M9Ie6)

21
hahahaha @ the older broad having saggy tittaes!

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 06, 2011 07:09 AM (P/N2O)

22 In the 21st century

No. This occurred in Utah.

*runs away*

Posted by: lauraw at August 06, 2011 07:09 AM (UlsYR)

23 Links works now. Thanks Laura!

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 06, 2011 07:14 AM (xNnAQ)

24 STLtrib is on my Righthaven blocklist....alas.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2011 07:15 AM (MMC8r)

25 I think the boss has a legal out.  He'll argue that the beautiful breasts were an "attractive nuisance".

BTW, the moronette on the ONT pic had some very attractive nuisances (in legal-speak).

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 06, 2011 07:15 AM (G/MYk)

26
No. This occurred in Utah.

*runs away*

Posted by: lauraw at August 06, 2011 12:09 PM


HAHAHA!

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 06, 2011 07:16 AM (xNnAQ)

27 WHAT??
It's a Righthaven thing?

Posted by: lauraw at August 06, 2011 07:16 AM (UlsYR)

28 True story:  a company I worked for in Boston once had a sex toy yankee swap Christmas party.  Fortunately, the womyn were all on board with the program.

Incidentally, if you are ever to replicate such an event, you may want to pick up some extra double ended dildos.  The three footer was the hit of the evening.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2011 07:16 AM (LEcV+)

29 True story:  a company I worked for in Boston once had a sex toy yankee swap Christmas party.  Fortunately, the womyn were all on board with the program.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2011 12:16 PM (LEcV+)

Guys have sex toys?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 06, 2011 07:19 AM (G/MYk)

30 Yes, LauraW-- SLTrib is a Righthaven partner.

Of course, I don't know if Righthaven is still being its excremental self, but...

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2011 07:19 AM (MMC8r)

31

...and?

Posted by: CAC at August 06, 2011 07:19 AM (DzjY6)

32 if the girl in the video had a Hitler mustache she'd be anatomically correct, although a little bow-legged.

Posted by: mark c at August 06, 2011 07:20 AM (SBIko)

33 21
hahahaha @ the older broad having saggy tittaes!

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 06, 2011 12:09 PM (P/N2O)


Lesley Ann Warren. I'd have ate glass just to smell the 1980 Lesley Ann Warren.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 06, 2011 07:20 AM (GZitp)

34 Of course, I don't know if (companyX) is still being its excremental self, but...

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2011 12:19 PM (MMC8r)

We can actually thank DemocraticUnderground for finally ending that idiocy with (insert company here) , they fought back a suit and won, the judge even ruled that (insert said company here in case they are still trying to sue) was asinine in it's suit abuse.

Posted by: CAC at August 06, 2011 07:21 AM (DzjY6)

35 Such a double standard.  Do this at a moron meat-up and you don't even get your name remembered.

Oh, by the way, Laura.  Our company is hiring.  Send me a picture of your ta-tas and I'll put in a good word for ya.

Oh, and a resume if you feel like it.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 06, 2011 07:21 AM (SRXyT)

36 The whining from the womyn is a little tough to take. What happened to standing up for yourselves and fighting back, or, god forbid, just quitting and getting a job where you "feel " wanted?

40 years of feminism has created womyn who can't take a step without running to the courts for some advantage. Maybe they should stick to what they are naturally good at?

Posted by: PigPen at August 06, 2011 07:22 AM (LH6ir)

37 Guys have sex toys?

Well...not straight guys.  Check out something called "The Gates of Hell."  I learned all about it that night.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2011 07:22 AM (LEcV+)

38
Leslie Ann Down vs Leslie Ann Warren?

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 06, 2011 07:22 AM (P/N2O)

39 And the reason this lady just HAD to work at this one specific company ...?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 06, 2011 07:23 AM (G/MYk)

40 I was sexually harrassed for more than ten years.  One morning I woke up and told myself, "this is wrong".

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 06, 2011 07:23 AM (4Mft3)

41 Guys have sex toys?

Not plural but yes we do, it's right behind our zipper and we play with it constantly.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 06, 2011 07:24 AM (tf9Ne)

42 And the reason this lady just HAD to work at this one specific company ...?

No one else truly appreciated her magnificent rack.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 06, 2011 07:26 AM (SRXyT)

43 Guys have sex toys?

Also, I would add that the fact that guys do is the reason to always make sure you have a safe word.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2011 07:26 AM (LEcV+)

44

Guys have sex toys?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 06, 2011 12:19 PM (G/MYk)

They come in sizes ranging from DDD to neck-snapping.

 

Posted by: CAC at August 06, 2011 07:26 AM (DzjY6)

45

Guys have sex toys?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 06, 2011 12:19 PM (G/MYk)

Of course. They are called women.

Posted by: PigPen at August 06, 2011 07:27 AM (LH6ir)

46 I thought Righthaven was told to cease and desist, or whatever lawyer term it is for a judge saying they have no basis for their claims?

Posted by: booger at August 06, 2011 07:28 AM (9RFH1)

47

They come in sizes ranging from DDD to neck-snapping.

 

Posted by: CAC at August 06, 2011 12:26 PM (DzjY6)

Exactly.  Or maybe pictures of them.  That's as far as a guy's sex toy goes.

I guess the Japanese robots might be coming on pretty strong but I still think they're decades away from any real market.  The Japanese subway cars are still made with seats that are too small to fit normal Americans.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 06, 2011 07:30 AM (G/MYk)

48  or whatever lawyer term it is for a judge saying they have no basis for their claims?

Posted by: booger at August 06, 2011 12:28 PM (9RFH1)

Yes.

They should also be pantsed, tarred, and set on fire for their stupidity, but the judge went easy there.

In fact, I believe DU won a settlement in their fight.

Posted by: CAC at August 06, 2011 07:31 AM (DzjY6)

49

Despite a cursory, thirty-second internet search, I was unable to turn up any pics of Ms. Anderson's stupefying gazongas. Sorry.

You can stick your sorries in a sack, mister. Nothing against gazongas, mind you, but let's leave hers out of it.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 06, 2011 07:31 AM (gTGz3)

50

Exactly.  Or maybe pictures of them.  That's as far as a guy's sex toy goes.

I guess the Japanese robots might be coming on pretty strong but I still think they're decades away from any real market.  The Japanese subway cars are still made with seats that are too small to fit normal Americans.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 06, 2011 12:30 PM (G/MYk)

Pictures?

You poor man.

Posted by: CAC at August 06, 2011 07:31 AM (DzjY6)

51

Utah County, huh? Do we know anyone there??

Posted by: Mama AJ

----

Present! 

I'm enjoying Utah, but my sense is that it's not the most favorable work environment for women.  Hubby has already had to address some equity issues that were left over from the old management for his team. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2011 07:32 AM (5H6zj)

52 And the reason this lady just HAD to work at this one specific company ...?

1)  Jobs are hard to come by.

2)  If this allowed, it will become the standard.

My boss at this time last year, the elected district attorney, was arrested last October for stuff that was only slightly more aggravated than this.  Among other things, he is alleged to have physically forced one of the complaining witnesses' hand on to his penis.  Several of the events leading to his arrested occurred in his private office.  When my new boss took over, the first thing he had done was to have a glass door installed on the office so we could keep an eye on him.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 06, 2011 07:33 AM (TVvXc)

53 You poor man.


Let's call him "Lars."

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2011 07:33 AM (LEcV+)

54

Pictures?

You poor man.

Posted by: CAC at August 06, 2011 12:31 PM (DzjY6)

I was trying to give you a little plug, there

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 06, 2011 07:33 AM (G/MYk)

55

Check out something called "The Gates of Hell." 

No, thanks. I don't want to know.

(Yet, I have a suspicion that I will know before this day ends.)

Posted by: FireHorse at August 06, 2011 07:33 AM (gTGz3)

56 This is what we get for letting women work outside of the kitchen. Ingrates!

Posted by: cherry π at August 06, 2011 07:33 AM (OhYCU)

57

O/T:

The idiots at Widener Law just keep digging. Link in my name.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 06, 2011 07:34 AM (XdlcF)

58 '"Guys have sex toys?""



yeah, they're called women.

Posted by: Berserker at August 06, 2011 07:34 AM (FMbng)

59 Stupid broads don't know what they're good for.

Posted by: Truman North at August 06, 2011 07:35 AM (K2wpv)

60 @18 Yeah, something here doesn't smell right. She worked 4 years in this hellish environment? In the 21st century, she somehow wasn't aware there are airtight laws regarding this stuff, and just figured she'd have to take it because he's the boss?

It's Utah County.  Very different culture for women in the workplace here.  Also, with the economy the way it is, I think a lot of folks are hanging tough with crappy bosses because it's hard to get re-hired. 

Also, in my experience with a harassment situation, the rules in place and recourse offered within the workplace are primarily designed to minimize risk for the company in terms of lawsuits, not really in terms of fixing the problem.  Basically, you have to go nuclear (external lawyer) to really get a satisfactory outcome.  Otherwise, you basically get the rep as being an uptight woman -- so the harassment may stop but the work environment is kind of forever ruined. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2011 07:36 AM (5H6zj)

61 he is alleged to have physically forced one of the complaining witnesses' hand on to his penis.

I don't want to be right!!!!!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 06, 2011 07:36 AM (SRXyT)

62 WalrusRex


Extremely short arms and a big mustache?

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2011 07:37 AM (LEcV+)

63

Guys have sex toys?

Google "Fleshlight".  Better yet... Don't.

Posted by: A moron who's embarassed to even know this crap at August 06, 2011 07:37 AM (xFIvp)

64

I was trying to give you a little plug, there

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 06, 2011 12:33 PM (G/MYk)

Ah. Thanks.

Stupid broads don't know what they're good for.

Posted by: Truman Capote at August 06, 2011 12:35 PM (K2wpv)

I discovered your real identity, TN. Dead, schmead.

Posted by: CAC at August 06, 2011 07:37 AM (DzjY6)

65 She should tell the cops he keeps beer in his office too.

Posted by: beedubya at August 06, 2011 07:40 AM (AnTyA)

66 This is unbelievable. Christina Romer, Obama's former economic advisor: "We're fucked" And she laughs. http://tinyurl.com/3q6vt3j I AM NOT FUCKING LAUGHING. Is it too early to talk impeachment?

Posted by: USA at August 06, 2011 07:41 AM (6Cjut)

67 Off-topic(s?):

news on that civility trollop:

“After getting an avalanche of criticism, Harrop deleted all of the comments and closed the post for any future comments.”

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 06, 2011 07:42 AM (4QeK8)

68 At my old place of work any mention of harassment was grounds for instant firing. We even had Senior VP fired when he made a remark about a secretary's "headlights".

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2011 07:45 AM (M9Ie6)

69 If Wright (The Boss) is a Democrat he is the victim and this greedy woman is just using the system to get money.  However, if Wright is a Republican, what a nasty bag of pig shit this SOB is.

Posted by: Sparky at August 06, 2011 07:46 AM (MqT/F)

70 Utah County is the land of BYU, filled to the brim with smug, self-righteous Mormons and their desperate pill-popping housewives. This story isn't surprising at all.

Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 07:46 AM (hwluJ)

71  housewives.

Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 12:46 PM (hwluJ)

ISWYDT.

Posted by: CAC at August 06, 2011 07:47 AM (DzjY6)

72 Utah County is a prime example of why I have chosen to remain independent and not become a Republican.

Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 07:48 AM (hwluJ)

73 To be sincere for a moment, I have trouble imagining that anyone has to deal with this kind of environment in today's workplace.  Having said that, though, if her story is true she ought to bring down the house, have everyone involved fired, etc.

Also having said that, I must note that this does NOT mean that you can tell me not to look at a copy of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2011 07:49 AM (LEcV+)

74 In OK we have equal harrassment laws. 

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 06, 2011 07:50 AM (4Mft3)

75 Utah County is a prime example of why I have chosen to remain independent and not become a Republican.

Your concern is duly noted.

Posted by: cherry π at August 06, 2011 07:50 AM (OhYCU)

76 O/T: MSNBC has live video of the perry event.  link
The link was on "twitter breaking news"

Posted by: curious at August 06, 2011 07:50 AM (k1rwm)

77 75 cherry

You'd be "concerned" too if you lived here.

Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 07:51 AM (hwluJ)

78
Utah is full of those bad Republicans.

Posted by: Gary Gilmore at August 06, 2011 07:52 AM (P/N2O)

79 O/T: MSNBC has live video of the perry event.

What's Katy wearing?

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2011 07:52 AM (LEcV+)

80 Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 12:51 PM (hwluJ)

So why don't you leave?

Posted by: Brenden at August 06, 2011 07:55 AM (wa+SP)

81 80 Branden

Why should I move? They're the ones who suck.

Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 07:56 AM (hwluJ)

82 packsoldier, are all religious people "self righteous" to you, or is it just Mormons?

Posted by: cherry π at August 06, 2011 07:57 AM (OhYCU)

83 72 Utah County is a prime example of why I have chosen to remain independent and not become a Republican.

In my experience (in Indiana) the people who "get" the concept of sexual harassment and the people who don't "get it" come from all ends of the political spectrum.  I (and two other women) were harassed in a lab setting by a senior postdoc.  We tried to ignore it, partly to try to protect our boss (the professor) and partly just because we knew how big a distraction a complaint would be, but eventually we had to make complaints.  Some people sided with us; some with the guy.  It basically broke down to "office (lab) politics" more than anything else (politics or gender).  In fact, after explaining the situation to a Parisian older guy who was in the lab in terms he could understand (imagine it was your daughter), he was able to understand why we had to complain, even though the French have much different standards about these things. 

It really doesn't boil down to partisan politics, imho.  It boils down to personal ethics. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2011 07:57 AM (5H6zj)

84
I'm an independent, too.

Posted by: Gary Gilmore at August 06, 2011 07:58 AM (P/N2O)

85
Lots of crazies in Utah.

Posted by: Gary Gilmore at August 06, 2011 07:58 AM (P/N2O)

86 LauraW if we are still concerned about the AH's at Righthaven perhaps you should go through the comments and remove the text copies from the link.

I copied some of it in my first post at 20. Others have as well.

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2011 07:59 AM (M9Ie6)

87 Just curious why if it's such a terrible place to live that you continue to live there, seems ridiculous to live somewhere that makes you so unhappy.

Posted by: Brenden at August 06, 2011 07:59 AM (wa+SP)

88
Utah would be nice if it wasn't for all those religious-right fanatics with their morals and family values.

I'm glad to be out of there.

Posted by: Gary Gilmore at August 06, 2011 08:01 AM (P/N2O)

89 82 cherry

All religions have some self-righteous members. But when you have a society and government that is completely dominated by one religion, self-righteousness becomes an ingrained trait. Try to imagine a government completely dominated by self-righteous liberals (Vermont?) and you'll see what I mean.

Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 08:01 AM (hwluJ)

90 We tried to ignore it, partly to try to protect our boss (the professor) and partly just because we knew how big a distraction a complaint would be, but eventually we had to make complaints.

Any thought of just saying, "hey cut it out"?

Posted by: cherry π at August 06, 2011 08:02 AM (OhYCU)

91 BTW, keep in mind that the LDS Church believes that it is the only true church and that all other Christian churches are apostates.

Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 08:03 AM (hwluJ)

92
In Utah they try to force their religion on eveyyone.

You'll be lucky to leave that place not a mormon.

Posted by: Gary Gilmore at August 06, 2011 08:04 AM (P/N2O)

93 Any thought of just saying, "hey cut it out"?

We did.  He persisted and it got physical. 

The excuse that he and his supporters gave was that it was because he was from the South. 

I kid you not.

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2011 08:04 AM (5H6zj)

94 BTW, keep in mind that the LDS Church believes that it is the only true church and that all other Christian churches are apostates.

Aren't all churches like this?  Shouldn't they be?

Posted by: cherry π at August 06, 2011 08:04 AM (OhYCU)

95
They "think" a certain way in Utah. Very disturbing.

I don't agree with it. They made me feel bad.

Posted by: Gary Gilmore at August 06, 2011 08:06 AM (P/N2O)

96 94 I was raised Baptist and I was never taught to think of Methodists as evil...

Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 08:06 AM (hwluJ)

97 96 94 I was raised Baptist and I was never taught to think of Methodists as evil... Cool. What about Jews?

Posted by: USA at August 06, 2011 08:07 AM (6Cjut)

98
You know who's cool?

Ron Paul.

Posted by: Gary Gilmore at August 06, 2011 08:08 AM (P/N2O)

99

Massachusetts is great, except that all the politicians are idiots and all the residents are assholes.

And the winters suck.

Posted by: Truman North at August 06, 2011 08:11 AM (K2wpv)

100 97

I was always taught that Jews are God's chosen people, even if they are wrong about that Messiah thing...

Posted by: packsoldier at August 06, 2011 08:11 AM (hwluJ)

101 91 BTW, keep in mind that the LDS Church believes that it is the only true church and that all other Christian churches are apostates.

LDS is not unique in that.  I guess you don't know any Catholics. 

My experience is so far (1 year) is that there is a desire amongst the professional and educated folks in Utah County to be more inclusive.  They know that they're going to get an influx of outsiders with Adobe, the NSA, and other jobs that are coming into the state/county and they want to make it work. 

However, there's no denying that when so much of your life revolves around your church (or any major factor - say your ethnic background or professional background), it is easy to develop blinders to what others' priorities are and forget that your way of doing things is just one way.  But I haven't found it any worse - or as bad, in most respects - than living in the academic ghetto in Hyde Park or surrounded by liberals in Boston. 

But there is an assumption that a woman is first and foremost a mom and wife, even though women do work here.  It's a little annoying, but they are not intending anything negative by it.  It's just an assumption. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2011 08:11 AM (5H6zj)

102 They "think" a certain way in Utah. Very disturbing.

I don't agree with it. They made me feel bad.Dead.

Posted by: Gary Gilmore

FIFY

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 06, 2011 08:12 AM (tf9Ne)

103

The guy has a crap lawyer if the case made it into the papers. Since he's the owner and her supervisor, he is solely on the hook for damages, so he should have settled unless he can prove she's making the whole thing up.

I guess there's two possibilities: crap lawyer or she's making it all up.

Posted by: spongeworthy at August 06, 2011 08:12 AM (rplL3)

104 The excuse that he and his supporters gave was that it was because he was from the South.

That is so incredibly stupid. See my post above, even off-hand comments get you fired at big companies. At the small mom and pop places maybe they are not as strict, but that is where the "South" part comes in.

Harassment of a verbal nature will get you a warning from hubby, continued harassment will get your ass whipped, physical harassment will get you dead dead dead. 

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2011 08:14 AM (M9Ie6)

105 I don't want to pick on any particular religion, but each religion has its own way to get into heaven.  If you do this, this, and this, you will not go to hell.  Baptists are no different than every other religion when it comes to this.

Posted by: cherry π at August 06, 2011 08:15 AM (OhYCU)

106

Aren't all churches like this?  Shouldn't they be?

The Evangelical Lutheran church isn't. (Not to be confused with Missouri Synod Lutherans. Evangelical Lutherans are more like European Lutherans -- Germans, Scandis, Estonians.) Martin Luther, a Catholic priest, didn't want to start his own church. Lutherans don't believe that people go to hell because they were Catholics.

Then again, I have a hard time following a belief system that says Garrison Keillor won't go to hell....

Posted by: FireHorse at August 06, 2011 08:16 AM (gTGz3)

107 That is so incredibly stupid. See my post above, even off-hand comments get you fired at big companies.

Yeah, I know.  In my experience, Southern men are more polite.  Especially in Texas.

It was particularly ludicrous given that one of the complainants was from Spain, a very touchy culture.  It had nothing to do with "personal space" or crap like that. 

My assessment based on who he was harassing and who he wasn't harassing was that it was about trying to demean the women in the lab who represented potential rivals for the boss' attention.  He didn't go after women who were technicians, for example, nor did he go after women who were clearly outranking him. 

Anyway, my boss was one of these touchy feely squishy libs.  He wanted to "solve" the problem by having some shrink come in a blather at the whole group about these issues. I wouldn't go for it because the other guys were not the problem, just this guy.  My mom was working for a law firm at the time and so with some advice from him I insisted the guy write an apology. 

But I also left the lab about 6 months later.

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2011 08:19 AM (5H6zj)

108
nood pots

Posted by: Gary Gilmore at August 06, 2011 08:20 AM (P/N2O)

109 All religions are are someone's opinion of what they think God thinks of them and how to go about living, dying, and their opinion about what happens after a person assumes room temperature. 

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 06, 2011 08:21 AM (4Mft3)

110 Despite a cursory, thirty-second internet search, I was unable to turn up any pics of Ms. Anderson's stupefying gazongas. Sorry.

She may not have stupefying gazongas. These horrible bosses just want to talk dirty.

Posted by: arhooley at August 06, 2011 08:23 AM (npmom)

111 She may not have stupefying gazongas. These horrible bosses just want to talk dirty.

Posted by: arhooley at August 06, 2011 01:23 PM (npmom)

 

For some reason, when I read that, an old HBO special popped up into my mind of Gilda Radner singing, "Let's All Talk Dirty to the Animals".

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 06, 2011 08:29 AM (4Mft3)

112 I worked for a guy exactly like this when I was nineteen but that was way back in the 70's when no one had heard of sexual harassment but everyone knew respect your elders.  It's hard to believe that someone could act this way now.

Posted by: csm at August 06, 2011 08:30 AM (PSmwe)

113

But on the other hand, "Mini-skirt Monday," "Tube-top Tuesday," "Wet T-shirt Wednesday," "No bra Thursday" and "Bikini top Friday" sound like great morale-building tools.

 

Posted by: Truman North at August 06, 2011 08:37 AM (K2wpv)

114 I was disappointed that the forehead tittaes didn't jiggle more.

Posted by: rickl at August 06, 2011 08:50 AM (1CfwK)

115 97 - I was raised in a Baptist household and never heard an anti-semitic word.  Now days anyway Israel doesn't have a stronger group of supporters than Southern Baptists.  Growing up in the South it was impossible to understand why such things happened elsewhere.  Can't speak  the entire South but that is how it was where I lived.

As a small business guy I am pretty much immune to suits like this.  If someone threatens to sue, you threaten to give them the business and let them run it.  Once they get a look at the books and the amount of work involved they somehow don't seem quite as offended.  Not having any assets can be very liberating. 

Besides, the worst offenders with the sex jokes have all been women and the men love it.  Most people tend to be better adjusted in small businesses than they are at the large firms where people think they are above such things.  Much, much less tension than when I worked for one of the 5 largest companies in the world.  And when there is friction you get a few "fuck-offs" and everyone feels better afterwards. 

Posted by: Voluble at August 06, 2011 08:51 AM (JKX4x)

116 I mean, they would make me want to ask women questions where the answer was no.

Posted by: rickl at August 06, 2011 08:52 AM (1CfwK)

117 Wow, she was great in Inception. In this....not so much.

Posted by: Jawknee at August 06, 2011 09:06 AM (fK55S)

118 The Clinton White House refered to that kind of office setting as "a workday"

Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 06, 2011 09:18 AM (QQztO)

119 Based on the craziness of this story I'm going to tentatively call bs. She knew allegations this wild were guaranteed to make the papers, and figured at least she'd get her 15 minutes. Also the odds of a 44 year old single mother being any where near attractive enough to elicit this kind of behavior are astronomically poor.

Posted by: SK at August 06, 2011 09:33 AM (/SJG0)

120 We had a case a couple years ago in this area (NYC) about a woman complaining she was sexually harassed. Lots of sympathy for her, until she published professional photos of herself in what she said she wore to work. Even women took her on for exploiting both her body and fame WHILE suing others for making note of her kick ass bod.

Posted by: Chris R at August 06, 2011 09:37 AM (QiNmA)

121 120 Google "Debrahlee Lorenzana". It was more recent than I had thought (2010).

Posted by: Chris R at August 06, 2011 09:40 AM (QiNmA)

122

I never heard of "righthaven" before now. I did a little research and found that it's headed by a rabid, obsessed, copyright troll, (Michael Ferguson) who ususally gets his ass chewed by whichever judge is presiding over whatever lawsuit his firm just brought.

http://tinyurl.com/3vplqhq

Gawd, what a fucking loser.

Posted by: SFC MAC at August 06, 2011 10:04 AM (/qSCt)

123 "29 True story: a company I worked for in Boston once had a sex toy yankee swap Christmas party. Fortunately, the womyn were all on board with the program. Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2011 12:16 PM (LEcV+) Guys have sex toys? " They're called women.

Posted by: A Surviving Kennedy at August 06, 2011 10:40 AM (qvify)

124

SK 119, probably not.  This is all about power and lust.  As you should know, all it takes is, well, waking up for men to think lustful thoughts and some of them don't see any reason to keep these thoughts to themselves when they get to work.  And power is not an aphrodisiac for just women.  With this bozo, the more powerful he feels, the more he wants to feel more powerful and it's not at all surprising that anyone this pathetic would get his rocks off this way.

As to the woman, it is possible, depending on one's upbringing and experiences, to be subjected to this sort of abuse and either not realize it's abusive, or not realize that it's possible for you to do anything about it.

I was sexually harrassed by a man at work long before we had ever heard of Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill, but I was fortunate enough to have a very civilized boss and his boss was equally dignified and self-possessed and he didn't not think it was unreasonable to expect similar behavior from all of his managers.  The harrassment stopped dead in its tracks.  Not everyone is that fortunate.

Posted by: Tonestaple at August 06, 2011 10:51 AM (7ZLNk)

125 Google "Debrahlee Lorenzana". It was more recent than I had thought (2010).

Posted by: Chris R at August 06, 2011 02:40 PM (QiNmA)

We had several columns about her here when that story broke. The Morons were not fooled by her story.


Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2011 10:53 AM (M9Ie6)

126 125 Must have forgotten about them. I smelled a rat even before it was discovered she'd had brest implants and other cosmetic surgery done years ago, and even appeared on a television show about it in 2003. This is the other side of the argument, the one feminists will not address. You can't cry sexual harassment when you deliberately use your looks for personal advantage.

Posted by: Chris R at August 06, 2011 11:01 AM (QiNmA)

127 Tonestaple 124, what I know is that lust is not indiscriminate, nothing wilts a boner quicker than someone 30+ pounds overweight for example, saying one would be interested in someone unattractive simply for power's sake is nonsense. All the talk that sexual harassment and even rape are all about power is bullshit. Unless there's some past built up animosity between the two parties and the harassment is simply to make one uncomfortable out of spite, it just doesn't happen. This doesn't apply when the attention is desired though, which explains the whole Monica and Arnold's housekeeper business. Freely offered sex is freely offered sex, but no one's going to chase after the subpar.

Posted by: SK at August 06, 2011 11:15 AM (/SJG0)

128 "As a result of the stress and emotional trauma of this experience, Ms. Anderson has been losing sleep, seeking professional help and has ulcers."

Prescription Justice:  a buckwheat pillow, a glass of pinot grigio, and a handful of antibiotics, silly Silly.

Posted by: Doctor Common Sense at August 06, 2011 12:18 PM (YqWfw)

129 How does one explain the sexual assault on an 85year old woman on Madison Avenue at 530 a.m. in NYC?  Maybe rape is about power and lust, in varying amounts and proportions. In the Middle East, they think any woman who shows more than an ankle is asking for it.     

Posted by: vivi at August 06, 2011 12:31 PM (hjkqq)

130 link is broken again

Posted by: Johnny at August 06, 2011 03:04 PM (FYwGn)

131 Link to another article on this. http://tinyurl.com/3otjz7h

Posted by: Johnny at August 06, 2011 03:31 PM (FYwGn)

132

Why did she stay there?  Single mom, responsible for three children, needs health insurance and income, I've been there.  I worked for 2 and half years in a hellish place (not sexual harrassment, but a sociopathic boss - one time he found out one of his contractors actually needed his check and he cut his pay 10% the next week).  It affected my health for several years - I started grinding my teeth in my sleep, developed high blook pressure (it had been low all my life, hit 200 over something one day in a doctors office).  I've been out of there for six years and only got off the blood pressure meds six weeks ago.

When your babies depend on you, you will put up with all kinds of shit.  I saw that the place was toxic like the second day I was there but it was too late to go back to my old job.  I looked for a new job the whole time I was there - spent a lot of time in the bathroom doing phone interviews on my cell phone.

I can believe that the guy did all this stuff - if you haven't had experience with a sociopath it's hard to understand how self-absorbed and charming they can be with absolutely no regard for anyone else.  It's just lucky for me that he got his giggles off demeaning highly-intelligent people (accountants and engineers) rather than with sexual behavior.

Posted by: Teri at August 06, 2011 03:53 PM (fd6CT)

133 The owner of a small company in my city was sued for sexual harassment and lost everything. Seemed like a good guy.

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Posted by: Eating the Dinosaur Audiobook at August 06, 2011 09:36 PM (X1M4g)

135 122 SFC MAC: The head of Righthaven is not "a rabid, obsessed, copyright troll" and does not "usually get his ass chewed." He is a very dangerous scoundrel who discovered a clever way to abuse recent Federal law on copyrights. Traditionally, damages in a copyright claim were limited to actual economic damages to the holder (which by definition included any improper profits by the violator). The revised law allowed the holder to claim $75,000 for any violation of copyright, even if there was no loss to the holder or gain by the alleged violator. Thus Righthaven could file a suit against anyone who quoted from a copyrighted article, even a published article that is available free, even a brief quotation that would be "fair use", even in an obscure and non-commercial medium, (e.g. a personal blog), and demand $75,000. The target either had to fight the suit, at a cost of $10,000-$20,000 (or more), or let Righthaven win its claim by default - or settle with Righthaven for $2,000-$5,000. (Righthaven's cost would be only a few hundred dollars in filing fees.) Righthaven successfully extorted hundreds of targets by this scheme. They recently had a setback when it was revealed that they did not own any of the copyrights they were suing on, only the "right to sue for violation" of them. This led to their current suits all being dismissed, and some of their previous suits and settlements being overturned, but I don't know if they have been required to repay their victims.

Posted by: Rich Rostrom at August 08, 2011 02:35 PM (A9eiU)

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