April 06, 2011

Wisconsin Update
— Gabriel Malor

Here's the latest. 99 percent of ballots have been counted. Prosser has 733,074 votes. Kloppenburg has 732,489.

Folks, that is, as we say in the election game, inside the margin of fraud. Police guarded the ballots overnight, but that doesn't really reassure. Would this be the same police that stood by and did nothing while union thugs tore up recall ballots aimed at Democrats?

The final tally should be up sometime today. At that point, either candidate can request a recount and, considering how close and contentious this race has been, why wouldn't they? After that comes the litigation phase of the election, which could conceivably end in the Wisconsin Supreme Court. That's probably the most obvious reason why Supreme Court justices---or any judges, really---shouldn't be elected.

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1 Satan laughing spreads his wings...

Posted by: McLovin at April 06, 2011 02:07 AM (g4C4O)

2 From previous thread:

Recount in WI find 1500 Dem ballots in the trunk of a car. Republicans bend over and ask for another.

Posted by: Vic at April 06, 2011 02:07 AM (M9Ie6)

3 Vic, please tell me you're kidding.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 06, 2011 02:13 AM (fjoLg)

4 Even so, this news should make Debbie Wasserman-Schultz shiver. What is that sound?

Posted by: Oscar Gamble at April 06, 2011 02:13 AM (le5qc)

5 Isn't sarcasm against the AoSHQ terms of use?

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 06, 2011 02:14 AM (bAySe)

6

Elections shma-lections, Is it too early for a cocktail?

 

Posted by: Charles 3 sheets Gibson at April 06, 2011 02:14 AM (pr+up)

7 Did the cops empty their pockets yet?

I hope the recounts and lawsuits go on for months, and that Prosser wins by 1.

Posted by: HackedTheHubble&Looking@U at April 06, 2011 02:15 AM (4sQwu)

8 I'll be right there.

Posted by: Franken at April 06, 2011 02:16 AM (N2yhW)

9 After that comes the litigation phase of the election, which could conceivably end in the Wisconsin Supreme Court

Prosser should pull a liberal and decide against recusing himself.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 02:17 AM (c7Pp2)

10 Vic, please tell me you're kidding.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 06, 2011 07:13 AM (fjoLg)

I guess I should have put in the old sarc tag there

Posted by: Vic at April 06, 2011 02:17 AM (M9Ie6)

11 If the democrats demand a recount,  Wisconsin people should be informed how much it is going to cost.

ALSO,  conservatives should monitor every step of the recount,  demanding witnesses and  official observers.   Florida cheating in 2000 was stopped when a gang of well-dressed conservatives beat on the doors of the office in which they were trying to sequester the ballots away from watchful eyes,  and the media was unnerved by well-dressed protesters going ballistic.

The way to frame this is "First they wrecked the Statehouse,  now they are going for the whole state."

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 06, 2011 02:17 AM (Fo83G)

12 Cee Lo Green is warming up to sing.

Posted by: dogfish at April 06, 2011 02:20 AM (N2yhW)

13 In the age of the cluster fuck did we really expect anything other than a cluster fuck.

Posted by: dananjcon-early mornign deep thoughts at April 06, 2011 02:20 AM (pr+up)

14 Heh. No, Vic, I'm just woozy from a bad cold.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 06, 2011 02:23 AM (7jgOI)

15 If the democrats demand a recount,

Once absentee ballots and the last of the liberal precincts are in, it'll probably be Prosser that will need to ask for a recount.  My expectation is that some precincts will then discover 1. that they accidentally hit the wrong button and over-reported for Klop and 2. Have just enough ballots that they missed the first time around to make up the difference.

At this point most of the delay has to be because the county officials are conferring with each other to make sure their zombie ballot counts are properly coordinated.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 02:23 AM (c7Pp2)

16 Mini preview of 2012, coming right up.

My bus is waiting outside.

Posted by: HackedTheHubble&Looking@U at April 06, 2011 02:23 AM (4sQwu)

17 Plus my effing BlackBerry SUCKS.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 06, 2011 02:24 AM (7jgOI)

18 500 votes.  This reminds me of Lichtenstein in 1952

Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 02:25 AM (8ay4x)

19 Is anyone else at least optimistic that this wasn't a dramatic landslide thanks to the union machine? God I've set my standards so low in off season elections. SMH

Posted by: FAB at April 06, 2011 02:28 AM (v85We)

20

19

I'm waiting to hear the stories of voter intimidation, so that Eric Holder can sit in his hands and tell us whats good for his people.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2011 02:34 AM (pr+up)

21 Is anyone else at least optimistic that this wasn't a dramatic landslide thanks to the union machine?

Considering that they undoubtedly cheated their asses off, there is at least the comfort of knowing that a majority of WI isn't down with the commies.

They will continue to cheat, a la Franken, but they didn't have the massive landslide that was feared.  They didn't even win in the actual election.

Posted by: nickless at April 06, 2011 02:35 AM (MMC8r)

22 I voted!

Posted by: Mickey Mouse at April 06, 2011 02:37 AM (MMC8r)

23 Meanwhile back in Minnesota, Al Franken whacks it manically, waiting for the call.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 06, 2011 02:37 AM (O/onO)

24 Let the court swing to the Libs. Every lib state has to Face the same fate as Detroit.

Posted by: McLovin at April 06, 2011 02:40 AM (g4C4O)

25 Folks, that is, as we say in the election game, inside the margin of fraud.

600-votes out of about 1.47-million?  Yeah, that's well inside the MoF.  The unions will be able to "find" those in one precinct in Madison.

And the voters of Wisconsin will absolutely own the epic screwing they are about to get at the hands of their "public servants".

Posted by: DocJ at April 06, 2011 02:42 AM (6TUiE)

26 What grown man walks around in a sports team jersey?  REALLY??

Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 02:45 AM (8ay4x)

27 Beginning of the end.

Posted by: listingstarboard at April 06, 2011 02:45 AM (kjvur)

28 In case of a tie President Wonderful reserves his right as KING to name the winner.

Posted by: Case at April 06, 2011 02:46 AM (0K+Kw)

29 I'm going to make an exception to those of you who are actually members of sports teams.

Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 02:46 AM (8ay4x)

30 and in related news, Ablele wins Walkers old County Exec seat. Seems i'm boned in Milwaukee countty at least, and the entire state soon. Anybody want to recommend a good state to live in? I got a feeling i'm gonna have to move out of Wisconsin soon.

Posted by: janir at April 06, 2011 02:46 AM (pw99A)

31 That's probably the most obvious reason why Supreme Court justices---or any judges, really---shouldn't be elected. Disagree. Appointing judges doesn't keep them from injecting themselves into every political controversy and claiming to be the final word. See US Judiciary. I want them to stand for election; to be subject to recall; and to be term limited. Appointing judges for life is how we got where we are today.

Posted by: How's the Coffee? at April 06, 2011 02:47 AM (HGMGA)

32 Every lib state has to Face the same fate as Detroit.

While I partly blame liberalism, when referring to Detroit in such a way, it should be remembered that for 20 years 70's-90's Detroit had a mayor (Coleman Young) that actively chased white owned businesses out of the city, then established a mentality of Detroit Vs. The Burbs that still dominates city politics.

Yes, that's all liberalism, but it's the extra-bad bits of liberalism (the extreme tribalism) that people don't usually think about that really made it happen.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 02:48 AM (c7Pp2)

33 I'm lost on this.  Why not just redo the vote on the budget and remove this whole Supreme Court challenge concern?  The law is completely legal, they are just nitpicking the process.

BTW, why is it not illegal for elected officials to leave the state in order to avoid doing what they were elected to do?  Why are the fleebaggers not in jail as we speak?

Just redo the damned vote.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at April 06, 2011 02:48 AM (Er/am)

34 Don't worry, Bill Mitchell.  No matter what the Republicans do, the liberal illiteratti and their masters in the judiciary will *poof* it away.

Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 02:52 AM (8ay4x)

35 Looks like it will be around a 400 vote win for Kloppenburg with what's remaining to be counted.  Too bad these weren't "phantom precincts" like we saw with Waukesha and Washington last night.

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 02:52 AM (A0Q4i)

36 Has anyone else noticed that in close elections it is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS the democrat leaning districts that are the LAST to report and they ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have just enough votes to put the dem over the top?

In 2008 I counted at least 10 Congressional races where the Republican lead with 99% of the vote in only to lose due to "late reporting" democrat districts.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at April 06, 2011 02:52 AM (Er/am)

37 Just redo the damned vote.

They haven't been in session to revote. The WI congress adjourned after the first vote with a planned return date of 5 April.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 02:54 AM (c7Pp2)

38 My sister's husband used to be a long haul truck driver.  Occasionally she would  travel with him.  She said that the difference between union vs non-union repair shops they stopped at was stark and revealing.

The union shops were dirty, expensive, slow and the staff had an f-you if you don't like it attitude.  The non-union shops were clean, efficient, fast and courteous.

There it is.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at April 06, 2011 02:56 AM (Er/am)

39 38 Has anyone else noticed that in close elections it is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS the democrat leaning districts that are the LAST to report and they ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have just enough votes to put the dem over the top?

In 2008 I counted at least 10 Congressional races where the Republican lead with 99% of the vote in only to lose due to "late reporting" democrat districts.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at April 06, 2011 07:52 AM (Er/am)

This is called "rocking the vote."

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2011 02:57 AM (pr+up)

40 Prosser's done.  Stick a fork in him.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at April 06, 2011 02:58 AM (B0893)

41 This entire country is a sick joke owned and operated by leftist gangsters.

Posted by: rplat at April 06, 2011 02:58 AM (4vq8i)

42 #44 It's called the Chicago way.

Posted by: Case at April 06, 2011 03:04 AM (0K+Kw)

43 Prosser's done. Stick a fork in him. Posted by: Steve the Pirate at April 06, 2011 07:58 AM (B0893) What are you talking about. His new nickname is "Landslide Prosser"

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 06, 2011 03:04 AM (7wmOW)

44 On goes the fraud. First they stole it for Frankens then they stole it from Emmer, Now Prosser. Doom!

Posted by: Zakn at April 06, 2011 03:04 AM (BZuxg)

45 @44 Right on. Truth to power.

They have the majority of cops/ judges/ skrool- tea, er, facilitators/ firemen/ city/county/state/fed gov't workers.

They win. For now.

But they have also consumed their host. Now we wait for them to turn on each other. It'll happen. Not enough $$ anymore to keep 'em all fat and happy.

Posted by: Lizbth at April 06, 2011 03:05 AM (JZBti)

46 Ask yourself, "How in the hell do you almost INSTANTANEOUSLY take a state that's trending red and turn it back to blue?"

"How do you reinvigorate a Democratic base that is totally dispirited?"

Very simple.  Follow the Scott Walker plan. Make it abundantly clear that you're a union-buster.  Don't just stop at demanding economic concessions - go after people's collective-bargaining rights and call them lazy, ungrateful union thugs when they protest. 

Walker could've won this battle HANDILY.  The unions were rolling over and giving him every financial concession he wanted.   But nope, he was bound and determined to be a "union-buster." 

Now, the people of Wisconsin get to enjoy the wonders of a 4-3 liberal state Supreme Court, and Scott Walker gets to enjoy the thrill of a recall election. 

Well-played. 


Posted by: stickety at April 06, 2011 03:07 AM (FUDwf)

47 No way in hell Prosser hangs on. Dems have stolen hundreds of elections over the years that weren't nearly this close. It's what they do. It's what they are.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at April 06, 2011 03:07 AM (E5RM1)

48 How many union trunks are filled up with ballots?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 06, 2011 03:07 AM (9hSKh)

49 That last percent, I wonder how many precincts that represents. 

And who wants to bet that last one percent doesn't come in massively for dems?

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 03:08 AM (/v6J+)

50 How many union trunks are filled up with ballots? Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 06, 2011 08:07 AM (9hSKh) Time for a fire maybe?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 06, 2011 03:08 AM (7wmOW)

51 Certainly a stern electoral rebuke to Governor Walker. As a staunch Wisconsin Republican for 40 years, I voted for him, but buyer's remorse set in after I saw some of his extreme policies so I voted for Kloppenburg last night. I hope I can return to my party in 2012. But if Trump's the best they got and he's a birther, what can I do? It's a terribly weak field. In the old days every contender was a rock-ribbed mainstream conservative like Dede Scozzava and the party faithful had a real choice.

Posted by: Russell at April 06, 2011 03:08 AM (SrXsf)

52 54 Certainly a stern electoral rebuke to Governor Walker. As a staunch Wisconsin Republican for 40 years, I voted for him, but buyer's remorse set in after I saw some of his extreme policies so I voted for Kloppenburg last night. I hope I can return to my party in 2012. But if Trump's the best they got and he's a birther, what can I do? It's a terribly weak field. In the old days every contender was a rock-ribbed mainstream conservative like Dede Scozzava and the party faithful had a real choice. Posted by: Russell at April 06, 2011 08:08 AM (SrXsf)

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 06, 2011 03:10 AM (bAySe)

53 Posted by: Russell at April 06, 2011 08:08 AM (SrXsf)

  Right.... a staunch Republican who voted for Kloppenburg last night .... Walker was "extreme."  A joke right

Posted by: Donna at April 06, 2011 03:10 AM (bdE9c)

54 Heh.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 03:11 AM (/v6J+)

55 #49 From what I saw "thug" is an apt description.

Posted by: Case at April 06, 2011 03:11 AM (0K+Kw)

56 As a staunch Wisconsin Republican for 40 years, I voted for him, but buyer's remorse set in after I saw some of his extreme policies . . .

It's good that you're so concerned.  And funny!

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 03:12 AM (/v6J+)

57 EF,

Liberalism and leftist policies are an unsustainable cancer that must
be destroyed.

We have seen time and again the lengths liberals will go to get their people
elected. We have to go to the mattresses with these monsters and I use that
word deliberately.

The system will be made sustainable or It should come crashing down!!!


Posted by: McLovin at April 06, 2011 03:12 AM (j0IcY)

58 The socks are afoot.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 06, 2011 03:12 AM (RWDbd)

59 First laugh of the day.

Posted by: Guy Who Fishes for Laughs at April 06, 2011 03:12 AM (/v6J+)

60 Yeah, we all know the lyrics by now. Republicans win, it's a "mandate", Republicans lose, it's "fraud."

Boo hoo.

BTW, as you sob into your blankies, Prosser's still winning by 500 votes.

Posted by: JEA at April 06, 2011 03:13 AM (hxLER)

61

55 You had me going for just a bit until you dropped Scuzzy-flabba's name.  Bad form - you should have gone for more subtlety and tried Jack Kemp or George H.W. Bush.

Posted by: Lou at April 06, 2011 03:14 AM (IH3P2)

62 Rough night at the glory-hole, JEA?

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 06, 2011 03:14 AM (RWDbd)

63 As a lifelong Democrat, I became disenchanted with my nasty party because of all the threats to life and intimidation.  So I voted for Prosser.  I just can't believe my people would stoop so low. 

Posted by: Lifelong Democrat... Really at April 06, 2011 03:14 AM (/v6J+)

64 As a lifelong clever person, my bullshit is totally awesome.

Posted by: Lifelong Clever Person at April 06, 2011 03:16 AM (/v6J+)

65 @Russell,

Yes, since there aren't any strong Conservatives on the Republican ticket, your only choice is to vote for the screaming liberal on the Dem ticket?  Um, yeah, right.

Ok, I'll play. 

"I've been a far left Democrat all my life.  My family has been voting Democrat for over 100 years.  I painted the daughter's bedroom blue I'm so far left.  However, Obama hasn't been nearly liberal enough for me, so I'm voting for the Republican in 2012."

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at April 06, 2011 03:17 AM (Er/am)

66 After that comes the litigation phase of the election, which could conceivably end in the Wisconsin Supreme Court. That's probably the most obvious reason why Supreme Court justices---or any judges, really---shouldn't be elected.


Actually EVERY judge should face election on a very frequent basis.

The fiction that judges need to be 'independent from public pressure' has allowed the legal class to act above the law.  Do you really think the authorized theft sanctioned under Kelo would have happened if the judges in the case knew that property owners throughout the country would have the ability to 'judge' their actions?  How about the legal wink & a nod to all of Obama's actions (rape of the bond holders, closing of car dealerships, tsar's galore, questionable elections, rulings that citizens lack standing in raising questions etc.)?

For most people who work for a living, the legal class has become the enemy, no matter which branch of govt they are in.  Elections are the ONLY 'legal' recourse that the people has against these tyrants in robes.

Power grabs by the Lawyers & Judges Guild have for most purposes neutered the legislative function.  If the people are removed from having a controlling voice in their govt. (as you seem to be advocating), the outcome will be as we are seeing throughout the middle east.

The fact that our revolution was so bloodless (compared to all other revolutions) was that back then, the ruling class was so far away.  Contrast 1776 with the French, Russian, Chinese and other revolutions where the corrupt politicians & judges were within reach of the people.

Posted by: Mark E at April 06, 2011 03:17 AM (w5RwR)

67 Well, I've always voted Republican until yesterday. I voted for Kloppi because Walker is the Devil spawn and Prosser is his evil sidekick. Their extreme policies made me change to a Democrat....

Posted by: Donna at April 06, 2011 03:18 AM (bdE9c)

68 54, "..a stern electoral rebuke to Gov Walker."

You're joking right?  You're out of fucking money, idiot.  What the hell does "stern rebuke" have to do with paying the fucking bills.  It's people like you that cause fiscally conservatives to flee liberal, communist states, which you perpetuate by sending dreaded "stern rebukes."


Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at April 06, 2011 03:19 AM (MPtFW)

69

49  Even if Prosser loses, so long as the bill survives, that's the end of it.  Union money is the key, and it's why they were consumed with bloodlust over it.

The "Scott Walker plan" energized liberals, apparently, to get less than 50% of the vote in an election that was framed in no uncertain terms as a referendum on Walker's union-related public policy.  Wisconsin has bright days ahead if the conservative grassroots there can bear the weight of the liberal union juggernaut in an election as seemingly trivial as this.

Posted by: Lou at April 06, 2011 03:19 AM (IH3P2)

70 It wasn't just me who thought Walker was extreme -- that's the word that even my local caucus was using and who am I to disagree. I could have overlooked it, but then there was that uncomfortable business with those Koch fellows. Wisconsins are fiercely independent, and cast a jaundiced eyes towards outside money and other shenanigans.

Posted by: Russell at April 06, 2011 03:19 AM (SrXsf)

71 Liberalism and leftist policies are an unsustainable cancer that must
be destroyed.
We have seen time and again the lengths liberals will go to get their people
elected. We have to go to the mattresses with these monsters and I use that
word deliberately.
The system will be made sustainable or It should come crashing down!!!


Posted by: McLovin at April 06, 2011 08:12 AM (j0IcY)


I'm not disagreeing with you, in general.  Just sayin' Detroit is an extra-special case.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 03:20 AM (c7Pp2)

72

Nice try stickety, but, like so many of your ilk, you are blind to the landscape outside your little lefty world. Don't feel bad.... allegedly brilliant college professors do it all the time.

First off, Prosser is ahead right now. There is a good chance he will still lose, for all sorts of reasons, some nefarious.... but he is ahead. This is no victory for the unions/Dems. No way. You threw everything, and I mean everything at this race, while Repubs around the country tore their hair out over their party's tepid effort. And this is what you got for it? This??  And we're supposed to be scared of this?!?!

Then, there's everything outside of Wisconsin. While you've been focused on the cheese, have you won even one victory on this front outside of Wisconisin? Your own..... Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, etc etc. Just one? Name it.

Back to this case. If JK wins by twenty votes or whatever, is she in good stead to not recuse herself from the huge question that got her in office? Methinks that will go to the SOTUS in the end, and there the left will have to prove their case, not the right. How long will all that take to sort itself out? Meanwhile, Walker will stroll merrily along.

Face it, even if JK wins, it'll be a victory, but you needed a BIG victory.... one that would rattle Republicans all across the land.

And this, my friend, ain't it.

Posted by: Andrew X at April 06, 2011 03:20 AM (R88w/)

73  74 The key phrase this time was "those Koch fellows."  Just one more little push, and you'll have it perfect.

Posted by: Lou at April 06, 2011 03:22 AM (IH3P2)

74 If 99% of the votes are counted, that means there are still 1% to be counted. That's 14,803 according to the figures given above. If Kloppenburg wins 52% of those votes he will have made up the difference of 585 votes. The smart thing to do would be for him to concede at this point.

Posted by: Porkov at April 06, 2011 03:22 AM (3N/tX)

75 Posted by: Porkov at April 06, 2011 08:22 AM (3N/tX)

  Kloppenburg is a she not a he, though it's not hard to see how that mistake could be made...

Posted by: Donna at April 06, 2011 03:24 AM (bdE9c)

76 As a lifelong Democrat I decided to vote for Prosser because I'm tired of carrying water for power-hungry pigs in government who never believed in anything I believe in anyway.  Besides, I resent being called a useful idiot.

Posted by: Mr. Honest Guy Who Never Lies Because He's So Honest at April 06, 2011 03:26 AM (/v6J+)

77 I'm waiting to hear the stories of voter intimidation...

Posted by: by any other name at April 06, 2011 03:26 AM (H+LJc)

78 Then, there's everything outside of Wisconsin. While you've been focused on the cheese, have you won even one victory on this front outside of Wisconisin? Your own..... Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, etc etc. Just one? Name it.



This is what keeps me smiling. I feel bad for WI, but they sure have taken the focus off of other states that are making progress (small p).

Thanks Cheeseheads.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 03:26 AM (c7Pp2)

79 This is about the time that GM will run a special promotion on the Chevy Volt with free, factory-installed trunks full of ballots.

Posted by: Large McBighuge at April 06, 2011 03:27 AM (XYK5z)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 06, 2011 03:28 AM (r1h5M)

81

69The fiction that judges need to be 'independent from public pressure' has allowed the legal class to act above the law. 

bingo. Its the big lie on which the rule of the oligarchs rests. Astonishing really that a people who believe in their bones that they are self-governing would tolerate a system in which unelected mandarins with life tenure claim the final say on all disputes of consequence.

Posted by: Snort! at April 06, 2011 03:28 AM (K/USr)

82

Posted by: Russell at April 06, 2011 08:19 AM (SrXsf)

Heh...you're funneh.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2011 03:29 AM (pr+up)

83 Has Marc Elias landed in Wisconsin yet? If he shows up, you know Prosser won. I have family in both Washington state and Minnesota. If his law firm is there, the true winner is going down.

Posted by: Trish'a iphone at April 06, 2011 03:29 AM (CAMJv)

84 Kloppenburg is a she not a he, though it's not hard to see how that mistake could be made...

A joke, right?

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 03:29 AM (/v6J+)

85 A joke, right?

  No Kloppenberg is a woman.... sort of... Prosser is a man...

Posted by: Donna at April 06, 2011 03:30 AM (bdE9c)

86 Russell, you sir, are an idiot.

Posted by: Tom at April 06, 2011 03:31 AM (MWXXs)

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 03:31 AM (/v6J+)

88 Check out this picture of Kloppenburg.

  A bit early for that....

Posted by: Donna at April 06, 2011 03:32 AM (bdE9c)

89 "Astonishing really that a people who believe in their bones that they are self-governing would tolerate a system in which unelected mandarins with life tenure claim the final say on all disputes of consequence.""

Wish we had that system in Iowa. It sounds so cozy and just. Sob.

Posted by: 3 recalled Iowa Supreme Court Judges at April 06, 2011 03:32 AM (JZBti)

90 Kolp is a woman.....with really bad hair.

Posted by: Case at April 06, 2011 03:33 AM (0K+Kw)

91 Russell, you should stick around.  We love people with integrity.  Too many people running around who think the ends justifies the means, so they lie their brains out because they're so absolutely certain about being correct it doesn't matter what they do to secure what they want.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 03:34 AM (/v6J+)

92 Kolp is a woman.....with really bad hair.

Huh-uh.  A dude with a really bad shirt.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 03:35 AM (/v6J+)

93 I agree.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 06, 2011 03:35 AM (bAySe)

94 One of you attorney dicks chime in: When, not "if", but WHEN one of these union assholes finally kills someone in connection with one of these bullshit protest actions, can we prosecute the union involved under the RICO statute? And by "we," of course, I mean the state.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 06, 2011 03:36 AM (PgmR7)

95 Check out this picture of Kloppenburg.


What is it wearing? Btw, morons. Note the left hand in that picture.... Looks like she might be available.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 03:36 AM (c7Pp2)

96 I could have overlooked it, but then there was that uncomfortable business with those Koch fellows.

Yeah, a whopping $43k donation.  How can you trust a politician that takes a donation that high?  And besides, the Koch name on the right is toxic... just toxic...

Wisconsins are fiercely independent, and cast a jaundiced eyes towards outside money and other shenanigans.

Posted by: Russell at April 06, 2011 08:19 AM (SrXsf)

Wisconsin has been a safe Democratic state for decades.  Your state is where unionized federal workers got their start in the first place.  That's why you guys on the left have been in such an uproar in the first place.  You threw everything at this and in a state like Wisconsin and there's still a decent chance you lost.  I'd be despondent if I were you now.  Even if you win, I'd be despondent you could barely muster 50% of the vote.

Who do you think you're kidding?  I actually took it for granted for weeks now that you guys were going to win this one given how little we did in the public relations arena and this is still all you could come up with.  This is pathetic.

Posted by: AD at April 06, 2011 03:36 AM (EXLhY)

97 If Democrats are voting, they're committing fraud.

Government is just an industry to the left, and any time they vote they're doing it to keep money coming to them.  They'll cheat more than Wall Street, they'll cheat more than any of the 'rich' they scream about, and they'll do it with impunity because they know they'll never see consequences for it.  The only time they don't cheat is when there is nothing to vote on.

Posted by: nickless at April 06, 2011 03:36 AM (MMC8r)

98 Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 08:31 AM (/v6J+)

Damn; need a warning!

Posted by: Vic at April 06, 2011 03:36 AM (M9Ie6)

99 I somewhat agree with snickety.

Although my sentiments lie with Walker and all he is trying to do (because I really do hate unions), I think he and the Wisconsin GOP overplayed their hand, politically at least..  They will likely lose a couple GOP Senators to recall as a result.

The union busting was not something Walker ran on, as far as I understand.  And, all the state's public employee unions were willing to give him all his concessions without the loss of collective bargaining.  I'll bet he could have got a no-strike agreement as well.  If Walker loses the court case, does he lose all the concessions?  Will the other side be emboldened in their next round of negotiations?  I don't know.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 06, 2011 03:37 AM (Do528)

100 can we prosecute the union involved under the RICO statute?


Depends.  Is it good for Eric Holder's people?

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 03:38 AM (c7Pp2)

101 Russ and Donna are "strategy"
Its not at all convincing...try to be more subtle.

Posted by: Don't Fall For It! at April 06, 2011 03:38 AM (NGq6u)

102 A glimpse at our future: Portugal is now borrowing at 5.1% for 6 months, up from 2.984 percent in early March.

Posted by: USA at April 06, 2011 03:39 AM (YZISw)

103 The Klopper. Buy one for $19.95 and we'll send you a second one for free! Just pay added shipping&handling.

Posted by: Case at April 06, 2011 03:40 AM (0K+Kw)

104 I have a hard time the recall efforts will go well for the democrats after last night.

Posted by: April 06, 2011 08:40 AM (bAySe) at April 06, 2011 03:40 AM (bAySe)

105 We know that voting for judges just introduces more politics in the phase so you wind up with judges who replace the legislature all the time. They don't even try to apply the law.

We know that presidential appointments with a Senate approval doesn't work very well either when one party dominates the Senate most of the time andthe other bends over to get ass-raped on every judicial appointment. (at least at the federal level)

How about a combination of the two. At the State level have the Supreme court judges appointed by the governor and approved by the Senate, but subject to recall by an election with a super-majority of 60%.

At the federal level expand the court to 50 judges and make each one be appointed by a State (1/State) Governor subject to approval by the State Senate.

Posted by: Vic at April 06, 2011 03:41 AM (M9Ie6)

106 103, union (especially public) busting is precisely what MUST happen if we plan on turning the country around.  They are parasites.  Always were.  Always will be.  Walker was right.  The time is right.  And this ain't over...by any stretch.  I just hope wimps like you have the courage to keep your sniveling in the background.

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at April 06, 2011 03:42 AM (MPtFW)

107

Top story on my Comcast home page today is about the looming government shutdown, accompanied by this flattering picture of John Boehner.

They're shameless.

Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 03:42 AM (8ay4x)

108 is this the highest turn out for this type of election?

Posted by: oic at April 06, 2011 03:42 AM (j7dYO)

109

Chi-town, correct me if I am wrong, but only one recall race has as of yet garnered enough signatures to initiate the process...... and that is a recall against a fleebaggging Democrat!

You are assuming that if the recall gets to ballot, that it will in fact prevail. And that no counter-recalls against Democrats will. That's kind of like assuming.... oh, I dunno.... that Republicans all over the country would be pissing their pants this morning over Kloppenburg's triumphant crush. Oops.

It's not out of the question that the recall battle could actully lose the Democrats a seat.... an imperative seat.

Nahhhh. The odds of that would have to be about the same as..... well.... Prosser actually winning, I suppose. That's crazy talk.

Heh.

Posted by: Andrew X at April 06, 2011 03:42 AM (R88w/)

110 Fuck Comcast. We switched ti Xfinity last year and couldn't be happier with our service.

Posted by: April 06, 2011 08:44 AM (bAySe) at April 06, 2011 03:44 AM (bAySe)

111

have a hard time the recall efforts will go well for the democrats after last night.

 

yeah, they might be thinking the same thing. They might give up on the recalls at this point.

I think Kloppenburg will win, because well the people entrusted with making this fair election aren't neutral observers.

However, I do think even with the loss, that this is a victory for our side. We've weathers everything the unions and democrats could offer and at worst we lose by a few hundred "found" votes or win by a few hundred votes.

There will be a recount without question. After that accidental 10,000 vote mistake last night, there probably should be a recount. Also i think if its within the .5% margin that the recount is free of charge if either candidate requests it and I know kloppy will.

It would have been nice to trounce them, but I see this as a win either way.

I hope the Legilature repasses the bill today and puts this thing to bed.

Posted by: Ben at April 06, 2011 03:44 AM (wuv1c)

112 The union busting was not something Walker ran on

He's not union busting.  Fucking PSUs didn't get the ability to collectively bargain until the 60's.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 03:45 AM (/v6J+)

113 Recall seems, to me, overly simple in Wisconsin.  All you need is signatures totalling 25% of the total number of votes cast for Governor in the last election in your district.  They don't even have to be registered voters, nor have voted in the last election!


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 06, 2011 03:46 AM (Do528)

114 Chi-town, correct me if I am wrong, but only one recall race has as of yet garnered enough signatures to initiate the process

No.  One was turned in last Friday for an R. It was reported that they had 140% of the signatures needed and that they had collected them in record time.  Another district is saying they have the signatures but haven't turned them in yet (maybe to keep collecting signatures - you get names and addresses along with them).

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 03:46 AM (c7Pp2)

115 The union busting was not something Walker ran on, as far as I understand.  And, all the state's public employee unions were willing to give him all his concessions without the loss of collective bargaining.  I'll bet he could have got a no-strike agreement as well.  If Walker loses the court case, does he lose all the concessions?  Will the other side be emboldened in their next round of negotiations?  I don't know.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 06, 2011 08:37 AM (Do52

I think you need to look up the definition of 'Union busting'. 

That is not what Walker is trying to do.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 03:47 AM (VuLos)

116 ef -  Ok, thanks. Hard to keep up w/ the details from afar. Appreciated.

Posted by: Andrew X at April 06, 2011 03:48 AM (R88w/)

117 Holy shit, Klopperfeld is one fugly manimal. Look at that fucking outfit. You can almost smell the unwashed hippy stink permeating her Coat of Many Colors. Anytime I need to suppress some inconvenient wood, I'll just call up that cock-shriveling image.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 06, 2011 03:48 AM (g6nyw)

118 April,

Isnt Xfinity a part of comcast corp?

Posted by: kawfy at April 06, 2011 03:48 AM (tfifJ)

119 We switched to Xfinity last year

I thought that was Comcast's service

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 03:49 AM (c7Pp2)

120 Of course you know I was kidding about voting dhimmi don't you?

Posted by: Donna at April 06, 2011 03:49 AM (vZ4Pn)

121

Certainly a stern electoral rebuke to Governor Walker. As a staunch Wisconsin Republican for 40 years, I voted for him, but buyer's remorse set in after I saw some of his extreme policies so I voted for Kloppenburg last night.

I hope I can return to my party in 2012. But if Trump's the best they got and he's a birther, what can I do? It's a terribly weak field. In the old days every contender was a rock-ribbed mainstream conservative like Dede Scozzava and the party faithful had a real choice.

Well, if Limbaugh can get seminar callers, I guess its only fair for Ace to get seminar commenters.

Posted by: DaveinNC at April 06, 2011 03:49 AM (boNGU)

122 Well, I do hope Walker and the GOP prevails.. don't get me wrong.  I thought it was a pretty gutsy move, but perhaps not the smartest one politically in a state like Wisconsin.

We'll see.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 06, 2011 03:50 AM (Do528)

123 83 This is about the time that GM will run a special promotion on the Chevy Volt with free, factory-installed trunks full of ballots.

Posted by: Large McBighuge

THREAD WINNER

Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 03:51 AM (8ay4x)

124

Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 08:42 AM (8ay4x)

Heh.  "Dis r meh rawr faec."

Posted by: blue star at April 06, 2011 03:51 AM (4OCrT)

125 Xfinity is Comcast

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 06, 2011 03:52 AM (SB0V2)

126 Er, yes. Of course Xfinity = Comcast. I was being sarcastic. Failed joke probably means it's a good time to go to sleep.

Posted by: April 06, 2011 08:53 AM (bAySe) at April 06, 2011 03:52 AM (bAySe)

127 man I am tired. what a stupid crazy night! you guys were hilarious. or hysterical, one of the two

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 06, 2011 03:52 AM (SB0V2)

128

125 Well, if Limbaugh can get seminar callers, I guess its only fair for Ace to get seminar commenters.

Don't you understand he's being flippant?  Shouldn't "rock-ribbed conservative like Dede Scozzafava" have tipped you off?  Not even the RINOs who endorsed her like Susan Collins and, um, Newt Gingrich, didn't claim she was a conservative - they claimed she had big-tent appeal.

Posted by: Lou at April 06, 2011 03:52 AM (IH3P2)

129 91 Check out this picture of Kloppenburg.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 06, 2011 08:31 AM (/v6J+)

Eh...looks like she's stuffed her fair share of children in to an oven. Ya think dousing her in water might rid us of this scourge?

Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2011 03:52 AM (pr+up)

130 What the hell good were any reforms without taking away collective bargaining "rights"? The Unions would simply wait for another Democrat gov. and then "bargain" to get all their goodies back. At least this way it makes it somewhat harder for them to do so, forcing a vote in the state house. Overplaying his hand? What other choice is there in these times?

Posted by: Alex #11 at April 06, 2011 03:52 AM (pGTO3)

131 Perhaps our side could discover as many or more ballots as theirs. What's good for the gander and all that...

Posted by: Barbarian at April 06, 2011 03:53 AM (EL+OC)

132

Perhaps our side could discover as many or more ballots as theirs. What's good for the gander and all that...

 

 

   Riiiiiiight

Posted by: Donna at April 06, 2011 03:55 AM (vZ4Pn)

133 upon recount, I'd bet a lot of the same-day voters for Kloppy will be found to be nonexistent or nonresidents or somehow else fakey

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 06, 2011 03:56 AM (SB0V2)

134 He's gone up more....

David Prosser (inc)       736,878
Joanne Kloppenburg   736,043

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 03:57 AM (VuLos)

135

"The standard of good behavior for the continuance in office of the judicial magistracy, is certainly one of the most valuable of the modern improvements in the practice of government. In a monarchy it is an excellent barrier to the despotism of the prince; in a republic it is a no less excellent barrier to the encroachments and oppressions of the representative body. And it is the best expedient which can be devised in any government, to secure a steady, upright, and impartial administration of the laws."

- Federalist 78

Lifetime tenure for (federal) judges is not "how we got here."  It's a core part of the consitutional design.  States can do whatever they want.

Posted by: Knemon at April 06, 2011 03:58 AM (Da+uN)

136 Perhaps our side could discover as many or more ballots as theirs. What's good for the gander and all that...

SUV, Pickups, and Tractors don't have trunks - hence a core problem for Pub vote fraud efforts.

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2011 04:00 AM (WkuV6)

137 Think of it this way: Judge Vinson only had the courage to tell the administration to GFI because of Article III "good behavior" tenure.

Posted by: Knemon at April 06, 2011 04:01 AM (Da+uN)

138 No, I guess he might've had the stones to do that regardless -- but it made it more likely.

Posted by: Knemon at April 06, 2011 04:02 AM (Da+uN)

139 Certainly a stern electoral rebuke to Governor Walker. As a staunch Wisconsin Republican for 40 years, I voted for him, but buyer's remorse set in after I saw some of his extreme policies so I voted for Kloppenburg last night. I hope I can return to my party in 2012. But their t-shirts only go up to size XXL, and I need a 6XL to contain my jiggly union man tits and gigantic gut flap that I earned from stuffing my gaping maw full of Zingers and Ho-Hos while on my six union-mandated breaks per eight-hour shift.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 06, 2011 04:02 AM (g6nyw)

140 Man, this thing is gonna stretch out like a camel's rectum at an Al-Qaeda training camp.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 04:02 AM (oDMwn)

141 All judges should be elected, and often. Term limits might be a good idea too.

Having them appointed for us by the better, smarter people has worked out so well, don't you think ?

Margin of Fraud is a nice phrase, I plan on using it early and often !

Posted by: prochazka_the_insane at April 06, 2011 04:02 AM (jNNWD)

142 Please let the hag win.  Please let the hag win.  Please let the hag win.  Please, please, please. 

Posted by: Greg (sotto voce) at April 06, 2011 04:03 AM (oDMwn)

143

"The fact that our revolution was so bloodless (compared to all other revolutions) was that back then, the ruling class was so far away.  Contrast 1776 with the French, Russian, Chinese and other revolutions where the corrupt politicians & judges were within reach of the people."

Not true.  The truly bloodless revolution was England's, in 1688.  Patriots during the lead-up to and the actual Revolution itself tarred, feathered and otherwise fucked with all the corrupt politicians & judges they could get their hands on (the ones that didn't cravenly switch sides, that is).  Many Loyalists left -- and good riddance -- rather than (or as a result of) getting the run-out-of-town-on-a-rail treatment.

Posted by: Knemon at April 06, 2011 04:04 AM (Da+uN)

144

Proposed headline for the Wisconsin Journal Sentinel:

WISCONSINITES GET THE KLOP

Posted by: Truman North at April 06, 2011 04:05 AM (8ay4x)

145

Every one of these close elections always turn out to be:  a) the last precincts to report are in Democrat strongholds; b) Somehow, "magically" extra votes turn up for the Democrat candidate, and c) We get images of the Republican hired election attorney with a dumb look on their face after it all happens.

Posted by: Ghost of John Brown at April 06, 2011 04:05 AM (cBcNP)

146

#138

Good news and bad news-

good news- Milwaukee is now almost entirely totally in, but Prosser actually expanded his lead with that to 845 votes.

bad news- outstanding precincts are:

DANE-1

ASHLAND -6

CRAWFORD-2

DUNN-2

JEFFERSON-1 (slightly better county for Prosser)

JUNEAU-1

MILWAUKEE- 2 (Prosser onlytrailing here by 43-57 though to everyone's shock and again with the latest bump here Prosser GAINED)

SAUK-8

TAYLOR-1 (Prosser leaning county)

2 precincts possibly favorable to Prosser, 22 not.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 04:05 AM (JEVge)

147 The problem with life tenure isn't the good behavior clause it is with the appointment and confirmation process.  The bar for confirming a lifetime appointment to a non-partisan post needs to be higher.  The need for one minority vote to exit the Judiciary committee is nice - but as long as "men" like Lindsey are around that isn't good enough. 

Maybe a really high supermajority to confirm or every Senator gets one strike a Congress -- this would encourage judges to keep their heads down on political issues.

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2011 04:06 AM (WkuV6)

148 Dane is still holding back a precinct? 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 04:07 AM (oDMwn)

149 SAUK-8 -- isn't that the county in which the union bosses just screwed the membership, it was a AOSHQ post yesterday?

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2011 04:08 AM (WkuV6)

150 153 SAUK-8 -- isn't that the county in which the union bosses just screwed the membership, it was a AOSHQ post yesterday?
We prefer the term "strongly negotiated their rectal cavities with our male appendages."

Posted by: The union bosses at April 06, 2011 04:10 AM (8ay4x)

151 I can't wait for the recounts and challenges to kick in. That is going to be the real story here.

Any election in which liberals and their union cohorts have a substantial stake, there is almost always a large amount of voter fraud. I can't think of a greater challenge to their power at the moment. So given the graveness, and the fact much of this organizing was accomplished with substantial outside help, I suspect we will also have monumental amounts of ineligible voting. This of course includes the usual dead people, non-citizens, out of staters, double voters and alien beings.

The liberal mantra is democracy works, as long as it's working in our favor. Otherwise, we will cheat our assess off, corrupt all democratic processes and then blame the majority for their "assault" on liberty.

Posted by: Marcus at April 06, 2011 04:10 AM (CHrmZ)

152

"One of you attorney dicks chime in: When, not "if", but WHEN one of these union assholes finally kills someone in connection with one of these bullshit protest actions, can we prosecute the union involved under the RICO statute?"

Sadly, no - or at least not easily.

http://tinyurl.com/3gholzv

http://tinyurl.com/3rkax5y

Posted by: Knemon at April 06, 2011 04:10 AM (Da+uN)

153 Hey, we did our part to get out the Democrat vote.

Posted by: Gravediggers and Corpsecanoodler Union Loacl #49 at April 06, 2011 04:11 AM (oDMwn)

154 How  many of these people mistakenly voted for Pat Buchanan?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 04:12 AM (oDMwn)

155 Dane is still holding back a precinct? 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 09:07 AM (oDMwn)

That one district isn't what will make the difference.

I worry more about Ashland and Sauk.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 04:13 AM (JEVge)

156 Re: Klooopenborg:

I'd prefer my judges to think like George Washington, not look like him.

Posted by: nickless at April 06, 2011 04:13 AM (MMC8r)

157 Gerg said 3%.  Still waiting for that to pan out.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 04:15 AM (oDMwn)

158

We will probably have this one stolen from us, but I still think there's a valuable lesson to be had. The left was in their typical red-faced, spittle-flecked form, they were outspending Prosser like nobody's business, and their comrades in the press made it seem as though the whole state was foaming with rage at the "union-busting". And with all this they will likely only "win" this election in the same way they win all close elections, through fraud.

What this means is that the story we were told about the fury among everyday Wisconsites was an outright lie. The circumstances were perfect for them: they had energy, they had the press narrative, they had an "offseason" election (which offers fringe groups the perfect opportunity to acquire power), they had tons of money and help from out of state. If the narrative were true this should have been a runaway victory with the leftist candidate winning easily, but this didn't happen. Walker and the Republicans crushed their nuts, they had the perfect storm, and this is the best they could do?

Why do we fear these people?

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 06, 2011 04:16 AM (JxMoP)

159 My God, it's full of fraud.

Posted by: David Bowman, GOP Election Attorney at April 06, 2011 04:16 AM (oDMwn)

160 I just heard a guy, I think from McGuiver Inst. saying that the vote wouldn't be certified until next week.  Also he said absentee are fed into machines voting day so shouldn't be an issue.  A couple of the Milwaukee precincts are in rep leaning areas. 
Given that Obama came in with his goons and threw national polictical operatives at this small race I think conservatives did really well actually.

Posted by: timwi at April 06, 2011 04:17 AM (Sxt4Z)

161 Unless we've got the same group of political junkies as last night, I'll ask a question I posted last night: 

What realistic scenario allows Barry to win in 2012 w/o Wisconsin?    Got one good answer last night, hope some senior Pub is taking care of that one.


Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2011 04:18 AM (WkuV6)

162 #162 Maybe the left were not the only Wisconsinites who were furious.  And why is everyone here so eager to write Prosser's obituary already?

Walker ain't Pawlenty, FWIW.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 04:18 AM (oDMwn)

163

Jean, in the Senate there's already something sort of like what you describe.  Senators have some power to block, or at least slow down, nomination of judges from their home state.

http://tinyurl.com/6kutvkq

ctrl+f "blue slip."  This describes it as not binding but from what I understand Senators have in the past been able to effectively block nominees.

Posted by: Knemon at April 06, 2011 04:18 AM (Da+uN)

164 Beck says not to worry, the ballots are guarded by state employees.

Posted by: AE at April 06, 2011 04:18 AM (YYjeh)

165 I wholeheartedly agree, TimWI, altho that could just be the ten espressos talking Who needed to make a statement here? It wasn't Prosser. The national D party went all in, and couldn't pull it out. In a race with so few votes (comparatively) it should have been easy to steal. And with all the stealing they did do (which was a LOT, I guarantee), they still couldn't pull it out. Whatever way it ends up, it's clearly a win for the good guys in Wisconsin. I'm proud of them today.

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Posted by: wholesale makeup at April 06, 2011 04:20 AM (6ai2U)

167 Note also the "dogs that didn't bark" - I see not very much ink being spilled nationally on the race today. I'd bet if they won it would be all over the damn headlines, the unions would be spinning it like crazy

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 06, 2011 04:21 AM (SB0V2)

168 Knemon - forgot about that, it rarely gets used because the Prez includes the Senators in the discussions.  Doesn't apply at the higher levels, so it's effect is diluted.

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2011 04:22 AM (WkuV6)

169 If they won, the unions would not have to spin it.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 04:22 AM (oDMwn)

170 I will say my post yesterday predicting a Prosser drumming needs to be revoked, at least for now. In a strangely un-eeyore statement bitchtits at HotAir spun even a narrow, narrow Prosser loss as a win for us, and in a way he is right. The unions were absolutely mobilized- yet the decision is still 50/50. So all that fluff that the state hated Walker and was going to punish him severely never materialized.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 04:22 AM (JEVge)

171 173. Oh yes they would. They would be spinning that a small WI court appointment race had national significance. That's clearly spin.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 06, 2011 04:22 AM (SB0V2)

172

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Posted by: dananjcon at April 06, 2011 04:24 AM (pr+up)

173 What realistic scenario allows Barry to win in 2012 w/o Wisconsin?    Got one good answer last night, hope some senior Pub is taking care of that one.


Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2011 09:18 AM (WkuV6)

Based on the swing it would suggest, if Obama lost Wisconsin he lost the election already- because Ohio, Virginia, the NE EV1, Florida, North Carolina, Indiana and New Hampshire would have already flipped with a minimum EV of 280 for the Republicans.

IF, IF, IF Prosser pulls this out with the unions totally mobilized, Obama's chances of winning Wisconsin drop dramatically.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 04:26 AM (JEVge)

174 Who else do we know that was elected by on judicial vote?

Posted by: torabora at April 06, 2011 04:26 AM (aosNO)

175

"rarely gets used because the Prez includes the Senators in the discussions."

Well, exactly.  Presidential veto is also rarely used, because Congress knows the president *can* veto, so they try to give him stuff he likes or will tolerate.

Any rule adopted by the Senate will be honored or not depending on the controlling party's needs.  Any attempt to codify it in law runs in to the President's veto, and Presidents aren't likely to give away their own power.

I know that the home-state Senators have screened nominees they find unacceptable.  Unfortunately, all the examples I know of first-hand are of liberal Senators blocking conservative potential nominees.

Posted by: Knemon at April 06, 2011 04:27 AM (Da+uN)

176 It was pointed out to me that Prosser was endorsed by the police union in Milwaukee, which probably explains why he fared better there than in Madison, Cuba.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at April 06, 2011 04:27 AM (UEEex)

177 CAC - do they drop enough to encourage a real primary opponent?

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2011 04:27 AM (WkuV6)

178 The problem was that this wasn't an election per se, Prosser had so many financial restrictions on his campaign that he couldn't compete against the union machine.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 06, 2011 04:29 AM (xzUyA)

179 btw- 2010 marked the first time in a LONG time Republicans won exceptionally close races as opposed to the tradition of losing them by "found" ballots- NY25 and TX27. NY25 had initially been called too for the Democrat but was later reversed.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 04:29 AM (JEVge)

180 Which pub groups helped Prosser?

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2011 04:30 AM (WkuV6)

181 182. Exactly and yet he DID compete! He may have won! very, very telling! THIS was the BEST they could do!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 06, 2011 04:31 AM (SB0V2)

182

#181

No. The splitter never wins, and knows this. There will not be a formidable primary opponent for Obama.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 04:31 AM (JEVge)

183

#166 Maybe the left were not the only Wisconsinites who were furious.

That's what I'm getting at. The Republicans took very strong action, all we were shown were videos of the rabble protesting at the state capitol, all we were told of were polls showing how Walker would not win if the election were held today, etc. The press made it out that there was this huge backlash against the Wisconsin Republicans and Walker, and if this were all true, then circumstances should have made this election a rout in favor of the leftist. That didn't happen, which says to me there are a whole lot of people in Wisconsin who agree with Walker and the Republicans.

The press hypes, distorts, frames, and lies all the time and too many Republicans politicians believe them. My hope is that they will figure out that they need to ignore the press and stick to their guns.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 06, 2011 04:32 AM (JxMoP)

184 HA says it over 800 vote lead, seems to think that we won.

So I guess the thugs don't have all that many friends after all.

Suck the barbed cock of Satan, as we use to say in the "pre PC" days at AoSHQ.

Posted by: Kemp at April 06, 2011 04:33 AM (JpFM9)

185 Is it too early to tell Greg to go get his fucking shinebox?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 04:34 AM (oDMwn)

186 Lets not start massaging each others buttocks just yet.

Posted by: W. Wolfe at April 06, 2011 04:37 AM (pr+up)

187 He'll lose then. Anytime there is a close race with the liberal trailing that goes to a recount, the Democrat ALWAYS win.

Another election decided by illegal aliens voting.

Posted by: blindside at April 06, 2011 04:39 AM (x7g7t)

188 That photo of Kloppenburg makes me feel sick. She is a grotesque caricature of the aging female left wing militant: sour and mean spirited toward anyone who disagrees with her angry Marxist views, and under the bizarre impression that she can hide tendencies with a technicolor fucking dreamcoat (or purple hair, or ethnic feather earrings or whatever) I see women like this in Manhattan all the time. They claim the motive for their political views is empathy and a deep concern for their fellow humans, but in practice their daily interactions expose them as vindictive and petty. If Kloppenburg lived in New York she'd probably be locked in a vicious court battle over hair shedded by her blind neighbor's guide dog or something.

Posted by: James at April 06, 2011 04:41 AM (nebDq)

189 81 I'm waiting to hear the stories of voter intimidation...

Posted by: by any other name at April 06, 2011 08:26 AM (H+LJc)

 

What's voter intimidation?

Posted by: Eric Holder, channeling Charlie Gibson... at April 06, 2011 04:43 AM (61BD9)

190 Yep. About 10 more precincts in this morning (prosser +200ish votes).  24 to go.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 04:43 AM (c7Pp2)

191 on wholesalemakeupchina.com.


Now with 33% less lead!!!

Posted by: Commie Marketing Ventures, LLC at April 06, 2011 04:44 AM (/izg2)

192 The police may be guarding the ballots already cast but all the "missing" Krappelburg ballots are being loaded into car trunks as I write this....

Posted by: Buck O'Fama at April 06, 2011 04:48 AM (W72lX)

193

On goes the fraud. First they stole it for Frankens
then they stole it from Emmer, Now Prosser. Doom!

 

WA 2004 gubenatorial race provided the template for the Franken win.  Dino Rossi won the election and the first recount.  The Native Americans funded the second recount which Christine Fraudoire won (and state law says the winner of the final recount wins).  It totally sucked and was completely illegal.  The most populous county, King, was the last one to report in.  It was here that ballots were "enhanced" by elections workers (who went through the ballots by hand and remarked them with sharpie pens as they determined "voter intent"), dead people, homeless people (who used a King County office building as their address on their voter registrations) and felons voted, ballots were "found" in car trunks, "on the sides of the machines", and just lying around and they were all counted.  The military, which didn't receive their absentee ballots on time had its ballots discounted.  The thing stunk to high heaven, and the law firm that helped whisk Queen Christine into office, then went on to give Al Franken the assist. 

It has permanently scarred me and soured me on the whole electoral process.  I will never forget it. 

Posted by: runningrn at April 06, 2011 04:52 AM (ihSHD)

194 good grief...dunn released some votes that hasn't been added yet...about 300 net for kloppy...and the rest of the precincts are strong kloppy...it's over, and i'll be back to say i told you so when it's over.

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 04:54 AM (A0Q4i)

195 sauk county is expected to give kloppy 400 net votes

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 04:55 AM (A0Q4i)

196

I wonder how much money the unions spent nationally for all of the protests and this election. How many chilrens could have been taught with that money? These people are idiots. They had a chance to see their paychecks go up, and they just voted against it.

If the judge loses, Walker should just pass the bill that stops the paycheck deduction of dues. THAT is what all this fight is about! Then again, let them dummies keep paying their dues, maybe raise them by adding a processing fee.

Posted by: Schwalbe : The at April 06, 2011 04:55 AM (UU0OF)

197 Beck, what a funny guy.  Well, the union thugs were telling their flocks that evil Walker would take their pensions away and yet, yet, Klop may still not win, but as history as shown throughout the ages, liberals always find enough ballots.

Posted by: Wade1970 at April 06, 2011 04:56 AM (MQOrx)

198

O/T, but WaPo reporting the following:

 

A fiery President Obama insisted Tuesday that if he and congressional leaders couldn’t reach a deal to avert a government shutdown, “I want a meeting again tomorrow here at the White House.”

“I will invite the same folks that we invited today,” he added. “And if that doesn’t work, we’ll invite them again the day after that. And I will have my entire team available to work through the details of getting a deal done.”

Obama’s team may not include the president himself. Despite theimpasse in Washington over federal spending, the president as of early Wednesday was scheduled to give two speeches outside of Washington: one on energy in the Philadelphia suburbs, then another Wednesday evening to a group of black political activists in New York.

If the schedule remains intact, it will be the president’s first trip outside the capital since he officially declared Monday he will seek a second term. And while Obama (D) and his aides have repeated said he will not focus on his campaign in the next few months, his schedule may contradict those words.

 

Gee, Obama can't even be said to be voting "present" any more.  Oh, and Obama lied, who'd a thunk?  He's also sucking up to Al Sharpton (his internals must be really bad!) 

Posted by: runningrn at April 06, 2011 04:56 AM (ihSHD)

199 Greg.... go fuck yourself...

Posted by: Donna at April 06, 2011 05:00 AM (vZ4Pn)

200 203  Greg.... go fuck yourself...

I was just thinking the same thing. lol

Posted by: Devilish at April 06, 2011 05:02 AM (3eTJD)

201

I had thought if we could replay this state to state, run the unions funds out so they cannot influence  elections to the degree they do.,,

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:02 AM (h+qn8)

202 Hope they forget my confident prediction of a 3% Kloppenfuhrer win.

Posted by: Greg (sotto voce) at April 06, 2011 05:04 AM (oDMwn)

203 Actually, posters like Greg sort of add something to the atmosphere.  They remind you that there are real people out there who are either totally brainwashed or totally brainless.  It empowers you to try to educate the people you meet who might be just slightly unsure of their beliefs when before they knew they wanted hope and change.  Besides, if a commenter is willing to set themselves up for the hilarious comebacks from you guys and the subtle jabs then they either crave attention or like to be abused.

Posted by: curious at April 06, 2011 05:06 AM (k1rwm)

204 Klopper just slaughtered Prosser! (not really) wonder how much money that could have been used elswhere was wasted in this blowout?

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:06 AM (h+qn8)

205 So, when the election goes to the Franken phase, is Prosser's spending still restricted?

Posted by: AmishDude at April 06, 2011 05:07 AM (xzUyA)

206 Personally, I'd like to say, as a concerned conservative, that I would have voted for Prosser except that I was driven to vote for a Democrat for the first time in my life, by Walker's insessant name-calling, Kock-sucking, and other extremist acts. I don't see how I could put up with supporting Nazis for so long, but now I've seen the light.

Posted by: Moby at April 06, 2011 05:10 AM (2CcxA)

207 "Thousands of Dead Bodies" Rich Rogers of the Massachusetts AFL-CIO speaking at yesterday's We Are One rally in Boston.

Posted by: momma at April 06, 2011 05:10 AM (penCf)

208 Actually, part of the problem with this race is it's off-cycle nature. This was a junkie election and the huge turnout in Dane (much larger, relative to other counties and historically, than usual) was the only thing that made it close

Posted by: AmishDude at April 06, 2011 05:10 AM (xzUyA)

209 dunn county gives kloppy about 300-350

sauk county gives kloppy about 450, according to charlie sykes

easy pickings for kloppy with the rest of the counties remaining.

you guys are delusional if you think prosser has the votes to win

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 05:11 AM (A0Q4i)

210 Aiee. that sock hurt my brain.

Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at April 06, 2011 05:12 AM (2CcxA)

211 You guys are delusional if you think 2010 was a wave election.

Posted by: Greg (sotto voce) at April 06, 2011 05:13 AM (oDMwn)

212  WTF?

I've only gotten to about comment #60 and already there are several astroturfers here. Is this for fucking real? Something tells me they've got the wrong blog.

Posted by: sartana at April 06, 2011 05:13 AM (7Xm5b)

Posted by: momma at April 06, 2011 05:13 AM (penCf)

214 Sorry I've been away from the conversation, but I was at Mass. Which brings up another concern for me: would Jesus really approve these extreme cuts to social welfare programs that Rep. Ryan is proposing? We have a covenant to look out for each other, particularly the most helpless among us.

Posted by: Russell at April 06, 2011 05:14 AM (bN5ZU)

215 "you guys are delusional if you think prosser has the votes to win"

You're delusional if you think Klopper has the HONEST votes to win. We know you can always steal it.

The big question is, are we all going to be sitting around the ruins of a destroyed bankrupt Union of These States some day, with you on your side of the fire eating your delicately boiled cat, saying "Gee, I didn't mean it! I believed Michael Moore when he said we were really all rich!"

Posted by: Abdominal Snowman at April 06, 2011 05:14 AM (2CcxA)

216 Yo, where's my little bitch, Greg at? I needs me some servicin.

Just rolled my ass outta bed, and I gotta fuckin EPIC hard-on...

Posted by: I'm Dolemite, bitch at April 06, 2011 05:15 AM (PET8M)

217 Amish, wonder what the laws are for being a citizen  voter for wisconsin?, wondering because it seems alot of out of towners moved in for a long time to rabble rouse.

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:15 AM (h+qn8)

218 Greg, do you show up at parties you're not invited to also?

Seriously, I can't imagine continually going to sites where every response to me would be 'fuck off'.  Attention whoring is a serious mental disorder.  Seek help.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 05:15 AM (VuLos)

219 I'm not seeing the results posted that others are claiming.... am I being had here?

with 24 precincts left, that should work out to 10,300 votes (0.7% of precincts).

5,550 or more would need to be Kloppenburg (54 percent) vs 4750 for Prosser

Easily fraudable, but the other morning totals that came in favored Prosser.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 05:16 AM (c7Pp2)

220 Greg's hash of AoQ4i makes me suspicious of a monumental sock.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at April 06, 2011 05:16 AM (2o7Ys)

221 Actually, posters like Greg sort of add something to the atmosphere.

We're a bit busy,  you're on your own there...

Posted by: The Fukushima 50 at April 06, 2011 05:18 AM (GBXon)

222 OY:  "'First Garden,' a New Children's Book about Michelle Obama's White House Kitchen Garden" - A book not written by MO.

On cover MO'chelle, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Eleanor Roosevelt

Posted by: momma at April 06, 2011 05:18 AM (penCf)

223 Abdominal Snowman , They don't care about the condition of the states fiscal status, or the strain on most of the population when taxes go up, They just wanted to be sure They Got Theirs. Hell they wouldn't even kick in for their own bennies. how pathetic and selfish is that. 

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:19 AM (h+qn8)

224 Dunn county was finished at 2 AM last night, you fucking dunce.  It won't be giving Kloppenfuhrer anything.

Posted by: Greg (sotto voce) at April 06, 2011 05:20 AM (oDMwn)

225 Honestly, I didn't come here to seek attention, or gloat. I was trying to spare you the pain that often accompanies false hope, as when Obama was declared the winner on that glorious evening in 2008 despite your heartfelt denials that it could ever happen. Sorry if I offended anyone. It was hard night for me yesterday for personal reasons. I was ten minutes late to movie because my girlfriend's recovery time in the abortion clinic took longer than expected, and then we squabbled about where to go for coffee afterwards.

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 05:21 AM (bN5ZU)

226 O/t:  Beck is such an attention whore.  He revels in having the entire communist, socialist, left wing dem morass have him as their target of choice.  The man is enjoying being attacked way way too much. 

Posted by: curious at April 06, 2011 05:22 AM (k1rwm)

227

Russell @ 218

This is why I have a problem with "social justice."  It is a personal obligation, or to use your word, "covenant."  The left hijacks the idea to justify government programs and tactics of compulsion, even if laughably far removed from Church teachings.

If you want to look out for your neighbor, then you do it.  Compelling, via government, someone else to do it does not fulfill your personal obligation. There is no grace on the cheap.

 

Posted by: teh Wind at April 06, 2011 05:22 AM (jRQre)

228 213 dunn county gives kloppy about 300-350

They done finished that shithole in the middle of the night, ya ignant-ass cracka.

Now shut the fuck up and keep suckin, ya white-boy, beta-male-ass bitch.

Posted by: I'm Dolemite, bitch at April 06, 2011 05:22 AM (PET8M)

229 Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 10:21 AM (bN5ZU)

Ok, thanks ParisP....uh, Greg.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 05:23 AM (VuLos)

230 i've also noticed states facing this crisis, when the union members won't budge from their getting a piece of the pie, they end up having to lay off their fellow members. nary a care ,as long as  they got theirs.

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:23 AM (h+qn8)

231 229 Honestly, I didn't come here to seek attention, or gloat.

Nah, ya come here hopin to have your bubble butt pumped raw and toss some salads. While I don't roll like that, I certainly don't mind a little skull, 'specially if it come from someone as girly as you, bitch.

Posted by: I'm Dolemite, bitch at April 06, 2011 05:25 AM (PET8M)

232 234. Exactly, willow, it's so stupid and pointless. Fewer jobs= fewer union members - you donkeys! but they don't care. they know the money tree is dead. they are just trying to squeeze out as much for themselves as they can before it's tapped out

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 06, 2011 05:25 AM (SB0V2)

233 226
OY:  "'First Garden,' a New Children's Book about Michelle Obama's White House Kitchen Garden" - A book not written by MO.
On cover MO'chelle, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Eleanor Roosevelt
Posted by: momma at April 06, 2011 10:18 AM (penCf)

Lemme guess: 'Chelle is in servant's garb and serving them coffee, right? (Loved the OY, BTW)

Posted by: ya2daup at April 06, 2011 05:25 AM (UzjcV)

234

NRO: "The Proxy War" by NRO's reporter on the ground Robert Costa

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 06, 2011 05:25 AM (UO6+e)

235 Supreme Court ;">REPORTING 99%   David Prosser (inc)

737,224

50%   Joanne Kloppenburg

736,805

50%

Posted by: I'm Dolemite, bitch at April 06, 2011 05:26 AM (PET8M)

236 Updates....

David Prosser (inc) 737,224 50%

Joanne Kloppenburg 736,805 50%

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 05:26 AM (VuLos)

237 Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 10:23 AM (h+qn

that's an interesting point.  I personally know of several private sector companies where everyone took an across the board pay cut so that no one would have to be fired.  It's not on the news, they aren't out there saying "hey look at us, we did the right thing"...no they quietly just did it.  Sure is one of my friends struggling a bit cause his wife lost her job and he got the cut.  yeah.  But, as he said, they bought their house with a "manageable mortgage" based on only his income and based on "his income if he never got another raise" so they are ok.  But these are the quiet people who just do the right thing.

Posted by: curious at April 06, 2011 05:27 AM (k1rwm)

238 Yours is neater, Tami. You go, girl...

Posted by: I'm Dolemite, bitch at April 06, 2011 05:27 AM (PET8M)

239 Hey Dunce, Schicklgruber County still has a few precincts not reporting and it went heavy for Prosser.  You might want to re-figure your math.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 05:27 AM (oDMwn)

240 Anyone know how many more precincts are left to count? I can't a link.

Posted by: Eric in Chicago at April 06, 2011 05:29 AM (PET8M)

241 Horny Badger: 737,224
Greg's Rectum: 736,805

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 05:29 AM (oDMwn)

242 18 precincts left at last count.

Posted by: Greg's swollen epididymis at April 06, 2011 05:30 AM (DL2qi)

243 My cock: 737,224
Greg's ass: 736,805

Posted by: Eric in Chicago at April 06, 2011 05:30 AM (PET8M)

244 Eric, it looks like 18 precincts left to count.

http://tinyurl.com/455xo3p

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 05:30 AM (VuLos)

245

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 10:21 AM (bN5ZU)

 

This is the asshole average joe. Ignore the troll.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 06, 2011 05:31 AM (6rX0K)

246 Teh wind, I appreciate your Christian concerns. I don't think we are so far apart. All of us are seeking the God who self-realizes through spiritually-centered traditions which celebrate the sacred circle of life and instruct us to live in harmony with the rhythms of the Eternal. Service to the poor is but one aspect of that divine tapestry. I happen to believe that the expression of love through legislative stewardship is the best route. But I do appreciate that you would also like "to give at the office."

Posted by: Russell at April 06, 2011 05:31 AM (bN5ZU)

247 Thanks, Tami!

Posted by: Eric in Chicago at April 06, 2011 05:31 AM (PET8M)

248 Please stop all cars with Minnesota plates headed for the recount and check their trunks for 'found' votes. I hear the Al Franken Brigade of the CPUSA is putting together a caravan of 'helpers' and volunteers to assist in the recount and make sure it's done right (... or is that 'left'??).

Posted by: chuck in st paul at April 06, 2011 05:31 AM (EhYdw)

249 Now they're showing up. 18 precincts to go. Prosser +400

Pro-Commie - 2 Crawford, 1 Dane, 2 Dunn, 1 Juneau, 2 Milewaukee, 8 Sauk

Pro-Prosser - 1 Jefferson, 1 Taylor

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 05:32 AM (c7Pp2)

250 Here's the AP link to county-by-county (precinct totals)

http://http://tinyurl.com/455xo3p

Posted by: Greg's self-asphyxiating cockrope at April 06, 2011 05:32 AM (DL2qi)

251

Posted by: Russell at April 06, 2011 10:31 AM (bN5ZU)

 

This is also the asshole average joe.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 06, 2011 05:32 AM (6rX0K)

252 I only counted 8 left, but then again, I'm kinda busy gettin medieval on the troll

Posted by: Eric in Chicago at April 06, 2011 05:33 AM (PET8M)

253 Dane and Dunn are already finished.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 05:33 AM (oDMwn)

254 Posted by: Blue Hen at April 06, 2011 10:32 AM (6rX0K)

And Paris Paramus.  A prolific socker.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 05:34 AM (VuLos)

255 It's down to Sauk, really.  Not that Greg would know that, since he still thinks Dunn is lurking out there somewhere.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 05:34 AM (oDMwn)

256 Maybe a bit off topic, but how are Right to Work states NOT advertising the crap out of their business friendly environment in places like Wisconsin. I'm talking billboards, commercials, pages in trades mags, it would be magical.

Posted by: FAB at April 06, 2011 05:34 AM (FOIdk)

257 i still cant get over how he outperformed Johnson in Milwaukee county.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 05:35 AM (JEVge)

258 257 Dane and Dunn are already finished.

I'd wager the couple of precincts not showing are phantoms...

Posted by: Greg's self-asphyxiating cockrope at April 06, 2011 05:35 AM (DL2qi)

259 261 i still cant get over how he outperformed Johnson in Milwaukee county.

No shit, right?!?!? LOL

Posted by: Eric in Chicago at April 06, 2011 05:36 AM (PET8M)

260 Curious right. most people I am friends with would help other friends ,this mentality I had not been  aware of previously.

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:36 AM (h+qn8)

261 AP is just slow

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 06, 2011 05:36 AM (oDMwn)

262 Ack, she just took the lead.

Posted by: Greg's self-asphyxiating cockrope at April 06, 2011 05:36 AM (DL2qi)

263
Supreme Court ;">REPORTING 99%   Joanne Kloppenburg

738,368

50%   David Prosser (inc)

738,228

50%

Posted by: Greg's self-asphyxiating cockrope at April 06, 2011 05:37 AM (DL2qi)

264 told ya so I am an asshole who trolls.

Posted by: TURD at April 06, 2011 05:37 AM (A0Q4i)

265 140....holy shit.

Well, it's after 12 somewhere in the world,. right???

Posted by: Eric in Chicago at April 06, 2011 05:37 AM (PET8M)

266 Crap....

Joanne Kloppenburg    738,368  50%

David Prosser (inc)       738,228  50%

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 05:38 AM (VuLos)

267 Sauk is all in now - gave her the last bump...

Posted by: Greg's self-asphyxiating cockrope at April 06, 2011 05:38 AM (DL2qi)

268 votes being pulled out of pantlegs at this point.

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:38 AM (h+qn8)

269 Dumbshit still thinks Dunn isn't in yet...

Funny shit, this troll is.

Posted by: Eric in Chicago at April 06, 2011 05:39 AM (PET8M)

270 Not to fret - Horse-Klop just got her last net gain - Prosser will be ahead at the end.

Posted by: Greg's self-asphyxiating cockrope at April 06, 2011 05:39 AM (DL2qi)

271 I just came in my pants.

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 05:40 AM (oDMwn)

272 No, I'm not Paris Paramus. He's just in the same wide Wifi zone. I'm Sherri Lynn Shriller-Harris, Sven Hjartssen, palin steele (not the real one), Jason, Elliot and others, but ParisP is innocent. Ace can confirm this for you.

Posted by: Average Joe at April 06, 2011 05:40 AM (bN5ZU)

273

Sauk is where it will fall.

Unless the last two precincts in Dunn are big, you will only see maybe another 200 votes there, and they ar eonly splitting 55-45 in favor of the union gal.

so thats another 20 or so votes she can pick up there in tersm of closing the gap.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 05:40 AM (JEVge)

274 275 I just came in my pants.

That always happens when you let me come in your mouth, Shirley.

Posted by: Eric in Chicago at April 06, 2011 05:40 AM (PET8M)

275 Sauk county finished reporting. 10 precincts to go with Prosser down 140 (0.001 percent?)

Pro-Commie - 2 Crawford, 1 Dane, 2 Dunn, 1 Juneau, 2 Milwaukee,

Pro-Prosser - 1 Jefferson, 1 Taylor

(10 milwaukee that reported this morning gave prosser a nice bump, so some maybe...)

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 05:40 AM (c7Pp2)

276 how are Right to Work states NOT advertising the crap out of their business friendly environment in places like Wisconsin.

Advertising, hell, they should have M&A - like teams knocking on doors.  Offering deals, trucks, consulting engineers to help the process, etc.

Posted by: Jean at April 06, 2011 05:41 AM (WkuV6)

277

Wife, "No George Gramma cannot be taken off the ventilator!"

spouse, "Get her up we need another ballot signed,  hurry up , we need a couple more hundred"

 ring, ring. Yeah this is George, Hey Harry, you have any friends you know didn't vote ? Tell them i'll give them a six pack if they go now".

 

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:43 AM (h+qn8)

278 This would totally make my glorious and spectacular beclowning in November go right down the memory hole, right?

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 05:43 AM (oDMwn)

279 282 This would totally make my glorious and spectacular beclowning in November go right down the memory hole, right?

You might wanna ask us, shitstain...

Posted by: OH and IN Governors at April 06, 2011 05:44 AM (PET8M)

280 Anyone curious about the total number of out of state college students living in Madison that voted yesterday?

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 05:46 AM (c7Pp2)

281 Well, from The Corner, regardless of this reporting, the recount is going to take for-goddam-ever. The precincts have 11 days or something just to get their shit together - 11 days starting Thursday. It doesn't really matter what the numbers are, they're too close. LOTS can change during recount. I can only hope the many many non-resident votes are denied during the recount, to counteract all the completely made-up ones. Same-day voting! such fun

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 06, 2011 05:46 AM (SB0V2)

282 *post removed and substituted with something more honest* Did you know that when I shit my pants, I bust a nut?

Posted by: Greg, bowel pleasure king at April 06, 2011 05:47 AM (bN5ZU)

283 284. I read some in-person reports about huge gaggles of college-aged kids all using a single electric bil, doing same-day voting. I'm sure it was significant

Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 06, 2011 05:47 AM (SB0V2)

284

97 percent voting polls in a few hours, last 3 percent days.

not weird at all.

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:48 AM (h+qn8)

285 284 Anyone curious about the total number of out of state college students living in Madison that voted yesterday? -- I'd guess about 150% of them

Posted by: Doc at April 06, 2011 05:48 AM (GC1wv)

286 hey and that 10 k they misreported  yesterday evening for a while in Dane county, who recovered that mistake?

Posted by: willow at April 06, 2011 05:50 AM (h+qn8)

287 #286 Good thing junior never reported our games of "tickle me squeakhole" to the authorities.

Posted by: Greg's Dad at April 06, 2011 05:50 AM (oDMwn)

288 286 Funny you conservatives support Prosser despite your alleged devotion to "individual rights." Did know that Prosser ruled that stigmatizing someone for life because of a single child sexual abuse conviction was Constitutional?

Did you know Greg's got his eyes on your daughter??

Posted by: I'm Dolemite, bitch at April 06, 2011 05:50 AM (PET8M)

289 AP just added 3 precincts without changing the totals...

All Klop precincts

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 05:51 AM (c7Pp2)

290

According to the AP, Klop just took the lead.  DOOM!!

http://tinyurl.com/455xo3p

 

Posted by: Ghost of John Brown at April 06, 2011 05:53 AM (cBcNP)

291 Klopclops up by 369 now.

Posted by: Devilish at April 06, 2011 05:54 AM (3eTJD)

292

The precincts have 11 days or something just to get their shit together - 11 days starting Thursday.

Oh, c'mon! 11 days... 111 days... same difference!

Posted by: SCOFLA at April 06, 2011 05:54 AM (Ks4nX)

293

Of the 5 precints left, 2 are in Republican areas, and 2 are suspected to be Republican parts of Milwaukee county, and 1 left in Juneau, which is 52-48 K over Prosser.

 

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 05:56 AM (JEVge)

294 oooof. 5 to go Klop + 370

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 05:56 AM (c7Pp2)

295 Dolemite, let's avoid ad hominem attacks and focus on buying champagne for Kloppenburg's victory party. But seriously, do you believe that a human being who succumbs just once to an uncontrollable attraction to a nine-year old girl deserves a life-long punishment? Modern psychiatry can successfully treat or at least abate such conditions. I hardly believe you would impose the same draconian punishment upon an alcoholic.

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 05:56 AM (bN5ZU)

296 Pro-Commie - 1 Juneau, 2 Milwaukee,

Pro-Prosser - 1 Jefferson, 1 Taylor

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 05:57 AM (c7Pp2)

297 299
But seriously, do you believe that a human being who succumbs just once to an uncontrollable attraction to a nine-year old girl deserves a life-long punishment? Modern psychiatry can successfully treat or at least abate such conditions. I hardly believe you would impose the same draconian punishment upon an alcoholic.

Well played, Ace....

ROFLMAO!!!!

That was so brilliantly evil, I am actually awed.

Posted by: I'm Dolemite, bitch at April 06, 2011 05:57 AM (PET8M)

298 297

Of the 5 precints left, 2 are in Republican areas, and 2 are suspected to be Republican parts of Milwaukee county, and 1 left in Juneau, which is 52-48 K over Prosser.


Source on these precinct locations?

Posted by: Greg's self-asphyxiating cockrope at April 06, 2011 05:58 AM (DL2qi)

299

#300

Ef.... not to get your hopes up but those 2 Milwaukee precints supposedly go to Prosser. West Ellis, Wisconsin.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 05:59 AM (JEVge)

300 The two precincts in small GOP areas MIGHT get Prosser 50 votes or so.  These are very small.  Juneau will get Kloppy 100, so it all comes down to milwaukee, lol

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 06:00 AM (A0Q4i)

301

Of the 5 precints left, 2 are in Republican areas, and 2 are suspected to be Republican parts of Milwaukee county, and 1 left in Juneau, which is 52-48 K over Prosser.

 

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 10:56 AM (JEVge)


Well that's not so bad then?

Pro-Commie - 1 Juneau
Pro-Prosser - 1 Jefferson, 1 Taylor, (2 Milwaukee?)

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 06:00 AM (c7Pp2)

302

Ef.... not to get your hopes up but those 2 Milwaukee precints supposedly go to Prosser. West Ellis, Wisconsin.

Posted by: CAC

 

You've toyed with our emotions quite enough thanks. That thread last night was a bitch-and-a-half.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 06, 2011 06:01 AM (6rX0K)

303 Like I said, Prosser's done.  He wouldn't be safe if he was 1000 votes ahead, but now Klop will likely end up with a 500-600 vote margin.  With more sacks of votes turning up during the recount.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at April 06, 2011 06:01 AM (W54Uh)

304

#302

Swing state project confirms at least 1 of the Milwaukee precincts should go Prosser.

The othere is hearsay.

Posted by: CAC at April 06, 2011 06:01 AM (JEVge)

305 Totally vindicated.  See, 2010 was not a wave election.  I told you so.

Posted by: Greg (sotto voce) at April 06, 2011 06:01 AM (oDMwn)

306 She's up 447 now.

Posted by: Devilish at April 06, 2011 06:01 AM (3eTJD)

307 The two precincts in small GOP areas MIGHT get Prosser 50 votes or so.  These are very small.  Juneau will get Kloppy 100, so it all comes down to milwaukee, lol

Posted by: Greg

 

OMG, lol. Remember your script. You're supposed to pretend that you're a conservative.lol

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 06, 2011 06:02 AM (6rX0K)

308 Grow up, Dolemite. The same law also classifies a 16 year old boy who kisses his 15 year old girlfriend as a pedophile. So it's a slippery slope. We need to be merciful to all our citizens, regardless of their foibles.

Posted by: Greg at April 06, 2011 06:02 AM (bN5ZU)

309 Totally conservative, which is why I grasp at and pump any conservative defeat anywhere, no matter how small.

Posted by: Greg (sotto voce) at April 06, 2011 06:03 AM (oDMwn)

310

Source on these precinct locations?

Posted by: Greg's self-asphyxiating cockrope


The AP  and JSOnline by county reports.  Not sure what CAC is following though, since he seems to know the exact precincts still outstanding, not just which county they are in.

Posted by: ef at April 06, 2011 06:03 AM (c7Pp2)

311 Ace has a new thread up on this.

Posted by: Tami at April 06, 2011 06:03 AM (VuLos)

312 We can talk about fraud forever, but the truth is that the population is shifting with enormous influence for (R) candidates.

Just take Wisconsin as an example. In a remarkably good climate, a (R) governor won Wisconsin with 52% of the vote. In a slightly less favorable climate, the (R) judge either won or lost by a handful of votes.

In a Presidential election year with normal turnout, neither of these would be a contest. There was extremely low turnout in Milwaukee. With even 50% turnout in Milwaukee, the (D) wins easily.

The non-Hispanic white population in Wisconsin fell by 1.78% from 2008 to 2010. The corresponding share of the non-Hispanic white electorate fell by around 1.12%, because the minority population is much younger. There is no reason minority populations can't vote (R) but given recent elections, there is no reason to expect them to vote that way.

Obama won Wisconsin by over 400,000 votes in 2008 (out of about 3 million). Just given population changes, we would expect him to win 500,000 if the demographic groups broke the same way. They probably won't exactly but will it be enough to make up 500,000 votes? Nope.

Fraud is just a distraction. The future is about these changes. In 2008, the minority share of the electorate was about 25.5%. In 2012, 28%. In 2016, 31%. In 2020, 34%. This requires no additional immigration, just population aging.

Posted by: Paper at April 06, 2011 06:03 AM (VoSja)

313

Only Kloppenburg can save the public employees God given right to tithes tribute well earned compensation, from the cash cows, um, taxpayers, so I voted for her.  And I'm not even a Wisconsin resident.

Posted by: Madkangaroo at April 06, 2011 06:05 AM (1zOin)

314 Average Joe's schtick doesn't amuse me any more.  Am I just an old fuddy-duddy? 

Posted by: toby928 at April 06, 2011 06:05 AM (GTbGH)

315 318
Average Joe's schtick doesn't amuse me any more.  Am I just an old fuddy-duddy?
Posted by: toby928™ at April 06, 2011 11:05 AM (GTbGH)

Not amusing in the least. Pathetic attention whoring is a better description.

Posted by: ya2daup at April 06, 2011 06:06 AM (UzjcV)

316

But seriously, do you believe that a human being who succumbs just once to an uncontrollable attraction to a nine-year old girl deserves a life-long punishment? Modern psychiatry can successfully treat or at least abate such conditions.

1.  Absolutely.  No one "succumbs" just once to such "uncontrollable attraction."  The rapist's wiring means he's not safe to be around children, period.  As the father of a nine year old girl, I'm not interested in playing treatment roulette with her life.  Given that I am 100% guaranteed to put a set of slugs through anyone who tries to rape her, it's better for the perv to be locked up forever.

2.  Yeah, that firmly-held belief in the magical psychiatric bullet worked out really, really well for the Catholic Church.

 

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at April 06, 2011 06:07 AM (W54Uh)

317 Average Joe's schtick doesn't amuse me any more.  Am I just an old fuddy-duddy?
Posted by: toby928™ at April 06, 2011 11:05 AM (GTbGH)

Not amusing in the least. Pathetic attention whoring is a better description.

Posted by: ya2daup

 

A good point. When called out, average joe feigns a perverted sense of triumph, like a child announcing himself the winner of a game to which only he knows the rules and indeed that a game existed. He claims that he isn't a troll, but a master of socks. He is simply an attention whore; an asshole.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 06, 2011 06:12 AM (6rX0K)

318 You realize when this comes down to 1 vote with Prosser having won, that was MY vote. You all owe me

Posted by: Cheesehead Bill at April 06, 2011 06:14 AM (H0k3f)

319 toby928™, ya2daup I'll fish as long as I still get bites. Not all of us can write world-changing comments like you two. And isn't your criticism of me just like attacking Pastor Jones for burning the Koran?

Posted by: Average Joe at April 06, 2011 06:15 AM (bN5ZU)

320 I'll fish as long as I still get bites.

Meh.  Whatever, dudette.

Posted by: toby928 at April 06, 2011 06:17 AM (GTbGH)

321 Greg, your pop tarts are ready.

Posted by: Greg's Mom at April 06, 2011 06:23 AM (7AIVm)

322 323
Not all of us can write world-changing comments like you two.
And isn't your criticism of me just like attacking Pastor Jones for burning the Koran?
Posted by: Average Joe at April 06, 2011 11:15 AM (bN5ZU)

As to your first assertion: I've never pretended that I deliver world-changing comments, Mr. Projection.
As to the second: No.

Posted by: ya2daup at April 06, 2011 06:25 AM (UzjcV)

323 If Walker doesn't convene the legislature at re pass the fucking law he is an idiot.

Posted by: kansas at April 06, 2011 06:57 AM (mka2b)

324 Looks like the theblaze.com website has been DoS'd  by the pro-censorship left.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 06, 2011 07:35 AM (9eDbm)

325 This is going all the way to the state supreme court. Prosser will obviously have to recuse himself, making it 3-3. I contend that Shirley Abrahamson should have to recuse herself as well, since Kloppenberg served as an intern under Abrahamson back in her law school days, and obviously has a prior relationship with Abrahamson.

Posted by: Killface at April 06, 2011 07:49 AM (rGcVx)

326 Blue Hen, My shtick was never amusing to you because you kept falling for it time and again. You don't fall for it anymore because recognize the hash, but all I'd have to do is switch over to my iphone and you'd be arguing with me once more until you were blue in the face. Everyone here is engaged in shtick. The main blog post are shtick. So you're not amused by my shtick. Does everyone else's shtick amuse you? If not, why not point out your non-amusement at other posts? Yeah, I do that dopey "sock off" thing in mid-thread because part of the shtick is to see how many more morons will fall for it even after it's been exposed. That amuses me. And sometimes others (other than you). There's a line from Amos Oz where a woman is caught in bed cheating by her husband, and she grabs her lover's cock to use it like a microphone to proclaim her innocence -- and he believes her. Well, you were once that husband and this blog was that cock. And it'll happen again.

Posted by: Average Joe at April 06, 2011 08:10 AM (bN5ZU)

327 " My shtick was never amusing to you because you kept falling for it time and again. Blah blah blah blah..." Yep. They were right. You're pretty fucking boring.

Posted by: cackfinger at April 07, 2011 10:34 PM (HpG1y)

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