November 29, 2009

WHOA: Suspected Police Assassin Was Pardoned by Gov. Huckabee in 2000
— Gabriel Malor

Huckabee's chickens coming home to roost:

Maurice Clemmons, the 37-year-old Tacoma man being sought for questioning in the killing of four Lakewood police officers this morning, has a long criminal record punctuated by violence, erratic behavior and concerns about his mental health.

Nine years ago, then-Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee granted clemency to Clemmons, commuting his lengthy prison sentence over the protestations of prosecutors.

"This is the day I've been dreading for a long time," Larry Jegley, prosecuting attorney for Arkansas' Pulaski County said Sunday night when informed that Clemmons was being sought in connection to the killings.

Back when Huckabee was governor, the people of Arkansas were so worried about his commutations of violent criminals, they looked at amending the state constitution to limit the governor's pardon power. This is what Huckabee had to say about executive clemency:

“I would not deny that my sense of the reality of redemption is a factor,” the former Baptist pastor said in a radio interview with KUAR in Little Rock. “And I don’t know that I can apologize for that because I would hate to think of the kind of human I would be if I thought people were beyond forgiveness and beyond reformation and beyond some sense of improvement.”

Our previous coverage of Huckabee's misguided and, well, dangerous use of the pardon power is here and here.

Via @redhk.

More:I'm sure a thousand people are digging up old news reports on Huckabee and Clemmons. And there will be a hundred stories in all the media tomorrow on Huckabee's future in politics. Here's the summary in advance:

(1) Huckabee pardoned Clemmons because they had a mutual acquaintance, he labored at the governor's mansion under a prisoner work program, or a minister intervened on his behalf. No, I don't actually know why he did it and Huckabee was notorious for refusing to give reasons for his pardons. These characteristics are what many of Huckabee's pardons had in common.

(2) The possibility that Huckabee will run for president in 2012 has moved from "less than likely" (see sidebar) to "not a chance in hell." Which, is the way I like it. He always was just a populist with a Bible. His shameful Mormon-baiting in Iowa ultimately gave us McCain last year. We no longer have to worry what Certain Fuckin' Doomabee will bring us next time.

Last Thing (for now): Huckabee's statement that it is "less than likely that I will run in 2012" preceded the assassination. Unless he has magic preacher clairvoyance, the two are unrelated.

Late Update: Huckabee makes a statement, passes the buck.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 04:18 PM | Comments (423)
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1

Military Veteran stands up to Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink video

Posted by: newser at November 29, 2009 04:19 PM (X2eW0)

2 Former 2012 Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee responded .........

Posted by: deadman at November 29, 2009 04:19 PM (dvEtf)

3 Whoa.  Just in time for a flaming skull.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 04:19 PM (UOM48)

4 Hmm i suspect that side bar story where Huckabee said it was "Less than likely" he would run again just became stronger...

Posted by: HowardDevore at November 29, 2009 04:19 PM (yxfok)

5

Would you like to borrow my tank helmet?

Posted by: Mike Dukakis at November 29, 2009 04:21 PM (VhQ/4)

6 God I hate Schmuckabee.

Posted by: Christopher Calandro at November 29, 2009 04:21 PM (JdbYk)

7 Makes the "certain fuckin' doomabee" link in the headlines section a bit more poignant.

Posted by: ef at November 29, 2009 04:21 PM (+5ndY)

8 Come on, morons, mustn't jump to conclusions or anything.  I know, let's have a beer summit!

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 04:21 PM (UOM48)

9 Huckabee flamed out too quickly in 2008 to be fully vetted.  Hopefully this prevents him from even trying a 2012 run.

Posted by: Star Witness at November 29, 2009 04:21 PM (2YS8r)

10 See ya Huck. Your political career is over.

Posted by: BuckNutty at November 29, 2009 04:22 PM (lArRj)

11

Second look at Michael Dukakis.

 

Posted by: Never Mind at November 29, 2009 04:23 PM (kdRml)

12 If true this could be Huckabee's Willie Horton. On the other hand Huckabee granted clemency to Clemmons after serving 11 years of a 60 year sentence for burglary and theft of property. Unless there were extenuating circumstances that seems an awfully harsh sentence.

Posted by: Mtenloch at November 29, 2009 04:23 PM (mQi3C)

13 If Clemmons was the Killer that means the conservative Christian base will not be divided in 2012 Giving Palin the nomination.

Posted by: Bill at November 29, 2009 04:23 PM (LZSir)

14 Sayanora, Huck!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 29, 2009 04:23 PM (rc5U6)

15

Boy, I thought I couldn't dislike Fuckabee any more.

Posted by: Chef Boy RDB at November 29, 2009 04:24 PM (q6dIH)

16 Willie Horton didn't commit <i>murder</i> after they let him out.

Posted by: Never Mind at November 29, 2009 04:24 PM (kdRml)

17

Damn violent nazi teabagger:

Deputies also interviewed other family members. They reported that Clemmons had been saying he could fly and that he expected President Obama to visit to "confirm that he is Messiah in the flesh."

Posted by: Warmolyte at November 29, 2009 04:26 PM (SgSfB)

18 wow.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at November 29, 2009 04:26 PM (Wh0W+)

19 On a shallow note, only Huckabee's wife could out Sasquatch the Sasquatch.  I know, I'm going to hell.  But still.....

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 04:26 PM (UOM48)

20 Mitt Romney just raised one of his eyebrows in a Spock sort of way.  And made long term hotel reservations in Iowa for the next two years.

Posted by: Dick_Nixon at November 29, 2009 04:27 PM (6yeMs)

21 They reported that Clemmons had been saying he could fly and that he expected President Obama to visit to "confirm that he is Messiah in the flesh."

Teh Won brooks no competition. Clemmons goes under the O-bus ASAP.

Posted by: PA Cat at November 29, 2009 04:28 PM (l3v1U)

22 Huck should take Leno's place on the Tonight show now!

Posted by: sonnyspats at November 29, 2009 04:29 PM (gG3aH)

23

Former 2012 Presidential candidate and retiring Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee responded .........

Latest press release.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 29, 2009 04:30 PM (Ym9lj)

24
To rate a flaming skull on AoS means you have either performed a magnificent feat or fucked the chicken.  Mike Huckabee chose the chicken. 

Posted by: Fish at November 29, 2009 04:30 PM (6mfq0)

25

The Huckchurian candidate? Makes ya' wonder how many other walking time bombs are out there that the Huckster has issued a clemency too.

Posted by: Blazer at November 29, 2009 04:30 PM (+FzLa)

26 Fox, flush Huck now. Huck, join a nunnery.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 04:31 PM (W98LL)

27 keep the families and loved ones of those officers in your prayers.

...

keep violent criminals in prison until their term is up.

.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 29, 2009 04:31 PM (ruzrP)

28 ... or is it Retired Politician and newly identified Political Liability Mike Huckabee ...

Posted by: Arbalest at November 29, 2009 04:31 PM (Ym9lj)

Posted by: sickinmass at November 29, 2009 04:31 PM (g7J39)

30 Fucking POS populist POS Huckabee. Microcosm of what this trash would do to the US

Posted by: Frank G at November 29, 2009 04:32 PM (I+To0)

31 This great news for those of us who didn't want to listen to The Moral Scold for 2 years leading up to 2012. Plus he was a Globull Warning follower.

Posted by: jimmytheleg at November 29, 2009 04:32 PM (zrguT)

32 Chucklebee seems to have a permanent spot on Fox on the weekend.  He has his own clapping seals, not unlike Jon Stewart's.  Thankfully, however, Stewart has no ambitions for the presidency.  (Oops.  Mustn't give him any ideas!)

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 04:32 PM (UOM48)

33

well there goes Huckadoodle from the '12 running.....

Chicken-fied moonbat won't play well if he has a hand in a multi-count murder spree....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 04:32 PM (dCpk3)

34  Boy, I thought I couldn't dislike Fuckabee any more.

Likewise.

OTOH, I'm grateful to whichever bloggers are going to watch his stupid show tomorrow and report on his reaction or lack of, so I don't have to.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 29, 2009 04:32 PM (OkT2m)

35

Dukuckabee!

Posted by: Never Mind at November 29, 2009 04:33 PM (kdRml)

36 I certainly would have/still would vote for him against Obama but this ought to mean he is no longer a serious candidate in the primaries. What a terrible tragedy. I'm still not believing one guy could get the drop on four cops and get away clean. Just a nightmare.

Posted by: DaMav at November 29, 2009 04:33 PM (QNU76)

37 Sarah's competitors are falling one by one, huh?

Posted by: GregInSeattle at November 29, 2009 04:33 PM (B5cM9)

38 His 2012 chances kinda went the way of a balloon flying around a room.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 29, 2009 04:33 PM (LswIE)

39

Hey Huck, see ya' at the country club.

Posted by: Michael Dukakis at November 29, 2009 04:33 PM (+FzLa)

40 God bless the victims and their families.  And God help our nation.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 04:34 PM (UOM48)

41 “I would not deny that my sense of the reality of redemption is a factor,” What can one say? This guy's reality needs serious adjustment.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 04:34 PM (BBlLR)

42

WOW I see now by the pic of young huck in the link above that he thought he was another elivis

 

Posted by: sonnyspats at November 29, 2009 04:35 PM (gG3aH)

43

You can't make this shit up. Huck is a dick. 

Baptist diet freak, NOT a conservative.  Green shit, really just a stupid f king hillbilly.

I am from the South, I can say that.

Posted by: Kemp at November 29, 2009 04:35 PM (2+9Yx)

44 Nothin to say, praise me.

Posted by: Jimmy Swaggart at November 29, 2009 04:36 PM (cIkZu)

45
This guy shouldn't have been out until around 2025.
Huckabee should be fucked over this. Meanwhile his poor decision may have cost the State of Washington 4 police officers lives. I am mad as hell!

Posted by: sickinmass at November 29, 2009 04:36 PM (g7J39)

46 um, pardon me Mr. Huckabee but have you considered running for Nevada office it seems I need help repenting for my 'sting'....

Posted by: OJ Simpson-the fastest man in cell block e at November 29, 2009 04:36 PM (dCpk3)

47 Baptist diet freak, NOT a conservative. Green shit, really just a stupid f king hillbilly. I am from the South, I can say that.

I was born and raised in Texas and I say "Amen, brother!"

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 04:37 PM (BBlLR)

48 So, what was it, Huck? Did he look like Morgan Freeman?

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 04:37 PM (W98LL)

49 Does ace have to authorize release of a flaming skull?Does he turn a key?

Posted by: steevy at November 29, 2009 04:37 PM (QWIzU)

50 >>They reported that Clemmons had been saying he could fly and that he expected President Obama to visit to "confirm that he is Messiah in the flesh."

So why couldn't he have tested out the flying bit rather than kill cops?

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 29, 2009 04:38 PM (hCQG5)

51 Huckabee is everything that the left claims Palin is.  I live in the South and his type are a dime a dozen down here.  He and Al Gore are cut from the same disingenuous, sanctimonious cloth.

Posted by: Voluble at November 29, 2009 04:38 PM (nZNTl)

52

44,

Hey I have lived among the southerners for most of myt adult life....

Love the folks hate the climate, but the one thing most agree on is Huckadoodle would be better served stunt-doubling for Jim and or Tammy faye Bakker than PotUS.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 04:38 PM (dCpk3)

53 ...I would hate to think of the kind of human I would be if I thought people were beyond forgiveness and beyond reformation and beyond some sense of improvement.

What a sanctimonious weasel...even without today's tragedy.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 29, 2009 04:38 PM (MZhz7)

54 I'm no Huck fan by any means, but this isn't just about him. There were multiple breakdowns of "the system" here with this piece of shit. And $150K bond set for the alleged rape of a child? You gotta be shittin' me.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 29, 2009 04:38 PM (554T5)

55 And I can detest Huckabee more!  Who knew!

My prayers for their families.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 29, 2009 04:38 PM (rfBP3)

56 Four police officers have been killed by compassionate conservatism.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 04:39 PM (BBlLR)

57
Can there be any doubt that Sarah Palin used her psychic ice-joo uterus powers to take over Clemmons' mind and thus destroy Huckabee's chances to run in 2012.

Can there?

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at November 29, 2009 04:40 PM (+FzLa)

58 Did someone call me?

Posted by: A Fork at November 29, 2009 04:40 PM (FCWQb)

59 Shazam!

He's more done than a squirrel in a popcorn popper!

Posted by: nickless at November 29, 2009 04:41 PM (MMC8r)

60 Get fucked Huck. You pontificating asshole.

Posted by: Barbarian at November 29, 2009 04:41 PM (EL+OC)

61 My sports teams lost, but I had a great weekend!

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt Paramus at November 29, 2009 04:41 PM (I2aaX)

62

58,

 

You seem to have a rare grasp of the conspiratorial mind of the Chillbilly zionists.....

hats off Andi

Posted by: Charles Johnson's hair extensions at November 29, 2009 04:41 PM (dCpk3)

63 First the military expressing their "concern" over diversity after the murders at Ft. Hood..  Now this crap.  We have become a nation of spineless, politically correct weasels.  Damn.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 04:41 PM (UOM48)

64 Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111eeek!

Posted by: Vmaximus at November 29, 2009 04:41 PM (EESSb)

65 I believe in redemption too.He can have been redeemed in prison while serving his sentence.

Posted by: steevy at November 29, 2009 04:41 PM (QWIzU)

66

Mike Dukakis rode atop the tank to screw his presidential chances, Gary Hart diddled Donna Rice aboard "Monkey Business" which screwed his opportunity, and Mike Huckabee granted clemency to a scumbag to win the vote of blacks and bleeding heart liberals or so he thought, only to find out he simply fucked the chicken. 

Posted by: Fish at November 29, 2009 04:42 PM (6mfq0)

67 So, just how large is the Press Secretary's office in the White House?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt Paramus at November 29, 2009 04:42 PM (I2aaX)

68 His presidential hopes are officially over. Stick a fork in him, he done.

Posted by: The Conservative Gazette at November 29, 2009 04:42 PM (dJ9G2)

69 #58

Well... Palin WAS in the state of Washington today, just a few hours down the road at a book signing... coincidence?

Posted by: your mom at November 29, 2009 04:43 PM (zzd8k)

70 This just reinforces my belief that Huckabee would be like President Logan on 24. He already looks like him. I still don't understand why he's so damn popular among the social cons. He's a nanny stater, dammit.

Posted by: wherestherum at November 29, 2009 04:43 PM (gofDd)

71
And $150K bond set for the alleged rape of a child? You gotta be shittin' me.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 29, 2009 09:38 PM (554T5)


Almost as disturbing, who the hell was crazy enough to pay the bond of a schizo child molester?

Posted by: Blazer at November 29, 2009 04:43 PM (+FzLa)

72 Four police officers have been killed by compassionate conservatism.

Letting criminals go free because you feel sorry for them is not "conservatism."

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 29, 2009 04:43 PM (OkT2m)

73 This was a horrible criminal act. Now we find it was preventable. I hope this puts an end to us having to watch the creepy Huckabee talk out of all sides of his mouth. Never liked nor trusted him.

Posted by: Ray at November 29, 2009 04:44 PM (eSTUq)

74 Huck, toast. Prayers for the families, no more excuses for the perp.

Posted by: The needle at November 29, 2009 04:44 PM (t/GDA)

75

Ok..Praise You.

send my money home.

 

Posted by: Jimmy Swaggart at November 29, 2009 04:44 PM (cIkZu)

76 I still be his poll numbers will be high this week.  Too many people just don't pay attention....look, a squirrel!!...

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 04:44 PM (UOM48)

77

Huckadoodle would be better served stunt-doubling for Jim and or Tammy faye Bakker than PotUS

BINGO! 

Get this dick off Fox! Makes them look stupid!

Oh, and I can't get my skull to show up, WTF?

Posted by: Kemp at November 29, 2009 04:45 PM (2+9Yx)

78 Huck, disappear. Please.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 04:45 PM (W98LL)

79

Mætenloch: On the other hand Huckabee granted clemency to Clemmons after serving 11 years of a 60 year sentence for burglary and theft of property. Unless there were extenuating circumstances that seems an awfully harsh sentence.

It seems like EXACTLY THE RIGHT sentence.

Dude would have been in jail until he was 77 years old - WHICH IS EXACTLY WHERE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN - in the meantime, those four police officers [three policemen and one policewoman] would still be alive and that child wouldn't have been raped.

PS: Aren't you an Admin at this site?

Why is Ace allowing RINO poseurs to be Admins?!?

Oh, I forgot - Ace himself is a RINO poseur.

Sheesh. 

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 04:45 PM (cu0m1)

80 #77

be=bet  'cause spellin' counts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 04:46 PM (UOM48)

81 I still don't understand why he's so damn popular among the social cons.

With some exceptions, I consider myself a social conservative and I don't like or trust the guy one bit. Never have, and now this.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 29, 2009 04:46 PM (554T5)

82 Aww shucks Hucks, there's a difference between forgiveness and foolishness.

This is the way of those who are foolish,
And of their posterity who approve their sayings.
Selah

Psalm 49

Posted by: Rocks at November 29, 2009 04:46 PM (B0vt9)

83 Source: Des Moines Conservative Examiner

2008 Iowa Caucus winner and current GOP poll leader Mike Huckabee says it is "less than likely" he will run for President in 2012. Huckabee was a guest on "Fox News Sunday" with Chris Wallace when he made the remarks.

Huckabee is wildly popular with social conservatives in Iowa. He is viewed favorably by 70 percent of Iowa Republicans, according to a Des Moines Register poll released last weekend. Only Sarah Palin comes close to Huckabee's popularity in the Hawkeye State. The former Arkansas governor is also the leader in a nationwide Gallup poll.

Huckabee cited his self-titled Fox News Channel program as his main cause for not running. "The reason I wouldn't is because this Fox gig that I've got right now is really, really wonderful," Huckabee said. "A lot of it depends on how the elections turn out next year and whether Roger Ailes continues to like my show on the weekends and if all those things factor in, it's less likely than more likely."

Squirrels coming home to roost.

Posted by: sickinmass at November 29, 2009 04:46 PM (g7J39)

84 Letting criminals go free because you feel sorry for them is not "conservatism."

I agree.  Compassionate conservatism is another name for liberalism.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 04:46 PM (BBlLR)

85 Does this mean that I will no longer have to see this yokel and his backwoods Deliverance hilljack band on Fox anymore?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 29, 2009 04:46 PM (XQwpJ)

86 I win.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at November 29, 2009 04:47 PM (zzd8k)

87 Can we all say "TOAST"?  I think Huck is done.  *good*

I suspect that another closet Republican Progressive has just been smoked out of the closet.    Watch who comes forward and says nice things about him.

Posted by: OldNuc at November 29, 2009 04:47 PM (RCSVq)

88

I hope this puts an end to us having to watch the creepy Huckabee talk out of all sides of his mouth. Never liked nor trusted him.

Wouldn't it be awesome if Roger Ailes had the balls to fire Huckabee tomorrow?

I would pay cash money to watch that announcement.

 

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 04:47 PM (cu0m1)

89 GM, you need to get the syntax down.  Repeat after me:  Huckabee's chickens...... Comin home...... To Roost.

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt Paramus at November 29, 2009 04:48 PM (I2aaX)

90

Shit, at least I never let out someone that went and killed cops!

Wait...did I?

I'll get back to you.

Posted by: Mike Dukakis at November 29, 2009 04:48 PM (P33XN)

91
I still be his poll numbers will be high this week.  Too many people just don't pay attention....look, a squirrel!!...

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 09:44 PM (UOM4





The media will be heart broken too when this angle starts to get out. Now they'll have to find another reach across the aisle RINO douche to endorse for the GOP ticket instead.

Unless McCain decides to run again. Oh god kill me now.

Posted by: Blazer at November 29, 2009 04:49 PM (+FzLa)

92 I work in mysterious ways.

.... but not that mysterious.

I mean, c'mon. -a child-raping murderer ...? 

Wow.

Posted by: The LORD at November 29, 2009 04:49 PM (ruzrP)

93

#80

Er. WTF was that all about??

Ace a Rhino?  Did you mean Wino?

Posted by: Kemp at November 29, 2009 04:49 PM (2+9Yx)

94

If I didn't like Sarah Palin so much I'd be scared of her.  Karma is taking to her detractors like flies to a swatter.  It's like Fire Starter or something.

Meanwhile, forgot to bookmark it (d'oh!) but those two party crashers knew Bammy through his ties to Rashid Khalidi, so he didn't think twice about them being imposters.

 

Posted by: RushBabe at November 29, 2009 04:49 PM (LKkE8)

95 Can you appreciate the dilemma facing the lamestream media tonight?

On the one hand, they don't want to publicize the story of a Black man murdering four cops.

On the other hand, they'd love to highlight how Huckabee pardoned and set loose on the world a man who became a career criminal and a multiple cop-killer.

But on the other hand, destroying Huckabee's political reputation can only be good for Sarah Palin, so it's got to be bad in their eyes.

They must be running around in circles, trying to decide how to balance all those factors.

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2009 04:50 PM (Ate22)

96

Oh for fuck's sake!!!

Posted by: Fred Thompson at November 29, 2009 04:50 PM (hUyhR)

97
When Huck played with Lynard Skynard it was weird seeing a suited fat guy who never snorted coke off a ho's ass pretending he belonged with the band.  Thank God they didn't play Freebird. 

Posted by: Fish at November 29, 2009 04:50 PM (6mfq0)

98 I still don't understand why he's so damn popular among the social cons. He's a nanny stater, dammit.

The desire to live in a state that forces your life choices on everyone isn't held just by moonbats and ecowhackos, you know.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 29, 2009 04:50 PM (OkT2m)

99 72 ~ Blazer

It was probably his mama, or heaven help me....the kid's mama.  (Seen that one too many times, made me wanna puke whenever that happened.)

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 29, 2009 04:51 PM (KWhJd)

100 Huck, the Lord wants you to join GreenPeace and strap yourself to a whale.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 04:51 PM (W98LL)

101 Dark Lord Cheney, your country calls out to you.  And your daughter.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 04:51 PM (UOM48)

102

Sadly he's probably not going anywhere on Fox.

They made a big to-do about firing the cop-killer luvah 'Dr' Marc Lamont Hill. Yet he's found his way back onto the network? What the duece?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 29, 2009 04:52 PM (XQwpJ)

103

99,

you said it Fred

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 04:52 PM (dCpk3)

104 Soap and Dave C, But you guys are morons (the AoSHQ kind), and he's never been popular round these parts. I just don't get how he consistently polled higher than all the other Repubs. If he had been the nom instead of McCain, I don't know that I could have voted for him over Barry. I'd have just tossed my vote to Zombie Reagan.

Posted by: wherestherum at November 29, 2009 04:52 PM (gofDd)

105 Seems we just figured out who this big conservative "open tent" lets in... 

Posted by: Flyover Sam at November 29, 2009 04:52 PM (7r7wy)

106 So will Huck give us "the rest of the story" behind his pardon of this guy on the radio tomorrow?

Posted by: Doc at November 29, 2009 04:52 PM (rzJpR)

107 I'd wait for more specifics, and I detest Huckabee and his Huey Long cum Baptist Sanctimonious populism as much as the next Moron.

60 years for a burglary charge does sound excessive on face value.  And to an earlier poster, why not throw him in a clink for 100 years for jaywalking?  It would have "saved lives" too.

Nutball should have been committed, apparently.  Prayers for all the families.  

Posted by: Techie at November 29, 2009 04:53 PM (cxW4X)

108 Can't wait to see the media investigations into what became of the other criminals Huackee pardoned.  This is undoubtedly the worst case, but I have to wonder how many of the others failed to find "the reality of redemption" and were later returned to prison.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 04:53 PM (BBlLR)

109 The media will be heart broken too when this angle starts to get out. Now they'll have to find another reach across the aisle RINO douche to endorse for the GOP ticket instead.

Hi there.

Posted by: Tim Pawlenty at November 29, 2009 04:53 PM (5I0Yr)

110 Willie Hortons still work 21 years later.

/

Posted by: sickinmass at November 29, 2009 04:53 PM (g7J39)

111 This is what it sounds like when your political career is rightly finished:

Poof.

Posted by: someguy at November 29, 2009 04:54 PM (VRJIW)

112

Ace a Rhino? Did you mean Wino?

If he lets whining crybaby RINOs like Maetenloch work as Admins here, then yeah, that would make Ace a RINO.

[Unless maybe someone is phishing/trolling as Maetenloch?!?]

 

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 04:54 PM (cu0m1)

113 The desire to live in a state that forces your life choices on everyone isn't held just by moonbats and ecowhackos Our version of those on the right are why I don't really like affiliating myself with the Republicans. I changed my party affiliation to Decline to State because of the shenanigans the Repubs were pulling here in CA and nationally.

Posted by: wherestherum at November 29, 2009 04:54 PM (gofDd)

114
I'll bet Huck wishes he had one of those off-ramps Obama was talking about, right about now.

You Betchya !

Posted by: Blazer at November 29, 2009 04:54 PM (+FzLa)

115

110,

 

the main thrust is for an armed robbery 60 years especially if it was an aggravated robbery based on multiple offenses is not outrageous....

R-Kansas doesn't screw around when it comes to sentences, so no "unequal justice" Je$$e Jack$on comedy hour riff....

Nah, Huckadoodle governed like an Imam would here....I think in its passive aggressive way that is why the M$M loved the chicken-fried Swaggert.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 04:55 PM (dCpk3)

116 If he had been the nom instead of McCain, I don't know that I could have voted for him over Barry.

Shit, I would have voted for Hannibal Lecter to keep the commie out of the White House.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 29, 2009 04:55 PM (554T5)

117 Any chance to help tear down a Republican....

Isn't this precisely the kind of Republican we want torn down? The "easy on crime" Republicrats. Willie Horton Republicans?

We certainly don't want them in our party now do we?

Posted by: someguy at November 29, 2009 04:56 PM (VRJIW)

118 God I how hate Motherfuckerbee.  This ex-preacher uses religion to justify letting violent felons out of prison to murder people and the media have no problem with him.  But Sarah Palin governed more or less as a libertarian and NEVER used religion to argue for or against a policy, and she's considered a theocratic nutcase who is a threat to democracy by the same cocksucking pieces of shit in the media who give Motherfuckerbee a pass on everything.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 29, 2009 04:56 PM (Z0bVg)

119
Huck, I'm real happy for you and imma let you finish, but Michael Dukakis had one of the best political career destroying scandals ever.

Of All Time !

Posted by: Kanye West at November 29, 2009 04:56 PM (+FzLa)

120 Shit, I would have voted for Hannibal Lecter to keep the commie out of the White House. I live in Cali so the point is moot anyway. To vote anything other than Dem is symbolic more than anything. It sure doesn't count for shit.

Posted by: wherestherum at November 29, 2009 04:56 PM (gofDd)

121

103 Huck, the Lord wants you to join GreenPeace and strap yourself to a whale.

Yes, praise God, you are right, and I will be on da whale just when he be's swimming by West Memphis. 

Posted by: Da Huck at November 29, 2009 04:58 PM (2+9Yx)

122 They may have given the dude 60 years for burglary cuz they knew he was nuts. Or he could have broken into the Mayor's Aunt Bea's house and scared all her good recipes out of her. So fucking what? If Huck wanted to do this guy a solid he could have seen to it he got extra pudding and TV time.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 04:58 PM (W98LL)

123 Tragically, he may as well have been holding the gun himself.  Sad - and totally unnecessary.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 29, 2009 04:58 PM (r1h5M)

124 lu...you would better hope for hope, n change.

Posted by: Jimmy Swaggart at November 29, 2009 04:58 PM (cIkZu)

125 Does this mean we can't still believe in a place called hope? Huckabee can join him on the electric bench.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 29, 2009 04:59 PM (kKP5O)

126

60 years for a burglary charge does sound excessive on face value. And to an earlier poster, why not throw him in a clink for 100 years for jaywalking? It would have "saved lives" too.

How about we throw your whining crybaby RINO parasite ass into jail with him?

We'll let him have the top bunk - you can be his wife...

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 04:59 PM (cu0m1)

127 Doncha love when backstabbing hypocrites get theirs?

Posted by: Schadenfreude at November 29, 2009 05:00 PM (LKkE8)

128 The scary thing is that since Huckabee believes so strongly in the power of redemption, he may still run for president in 2012 assuming his hardcore fans will forgive him.  Scarier, they just might.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 05:00 PM (BBlLR)

129 #111, this may be the strange instance where the MSM, maybe, helps Conservatives.  Maybe?  Nahhhhh.  They'll want to keep Huck looking viable.

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt Paramus at November 29, 2009 05:00 PM (I2aaX)

130

This isn't helping Michelle chilldren.

And he wasn't Black, he was just er, not White.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 29, 2009 05:01 PM (2+9Yx)

131 There's a lot of "told ya so" to do around.

A worse candidate than McCain. I can barely conceive of such a thing.

Posted by: Zimriel at November 29, 2009 05:02 PM (IJMBR)

132

135,

Felony-never heard of it....

Posted by: Charles Clouseau Gibson at November 29, 2009 05:02 PM (dCpk3)

133
Huck found out and he knows he is indirectly responsible for this
I'm sure he'll keep his FOX gig, but he knows that if he ever ran again, his fellow republicans would bring him down during the primaries. Huckabee is just as dangerous as any other religious nutcase and is more dangerous in certain regards in that he puts a friendly, smiling face on religious douchebaggery.

Posted by: sickinmass at November 29, 2009 05:03 PM (g7J39)

134 TheName, stop drinking the apocalyptic Kool-Aid.

Posted by: Chef Boy RDB at November 29, 2009 05:03 PM (q6dIH)

135 This guy is wanted for child rape according to Fox.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 29, 2009 05:03 PM (kKP5O)

136 Oooo.  I do enjoy an internet tough guy.

Like throwing RINO around?  How about this one, MOBY?

Piss off.

Posted by: Techie at November 29, 2009 05:03 PM (cxW4X)

137

Motherfuckerbee

BINGO.

Although I might spell it "Muthafuckabee."

As in "Former 2012 Presidential Candidate Hike Muthafuckabee."

 

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 05:03 PM (cu0m1)

138 What helps my children is the ritual sacrifice of the world's economy to combat imaginary hysterias....

Posted by: Lt. Chewbacca-1st Officer Millenium Falcon at November 29, 2009 05:04 PM (dCpk3)

139 "Certain fuckin' doomabee".......I go years wanting to come up with something that god.....YEARS...

Posted by: HiHo at November 29, 2009 05:04 PM (LBAbB)

140 Will this put a stop to his boy-pal Chuckie Norris, the Man of Many Hair Pieces, from constantly being on Fox?  Jeez.  Mommy, make it stop.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 05:05 PM (UOM48)

141 /b/tard, this secularist gives your post an "amen".

What Palin believes and what she wants YOU to believe are entirely different things.

Posted by: Zimriel at November 29, 2009 05:05 PM (IJMBR)

142 #80...'

I'm no Huck fan...but your dancing in the blood of the Officers with the profound benefit of hindsight is very unbecoming and lacking any degree of decency.

Posted by: MJN1957 at November 29, 2009 05:05 PM (0iOWD)

143

Huckabee knows a different Lord than me.

My Lord is all loving and all forgiving -- but only if you truly spend your life in repentance after a major malfunction. And even then only after you've finally reach the other side.

Posted by: Tinian at November 29, 2009 05:06 PM (7+pP9)

144 Gee Mr. Huckabee Barry may rent me to Michael Steele this week....

Posted by: Bus #13-Barack Ogabe's Wheels of Doom at November 29, 2009 05:06 PM (dCpk3)

145

stop drinking the apocalyptic Kool-Aid

Jesus Christ this site is overrun with RINO parasite scum.

No wonder Jim Robinson is trying so hard to purge you sorry whoresons from the big tent.

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 05:07 PM (cu0m1)

146 I think on the other thread someone mentioned extenuating circumstances in his sentences for "property crimes"...like attempt escape, assault of officer, and trying to take officers gun?  There's always more to the story.

Posted by: Freida Lay at November 29, 2009 05:07 PM (ax4Qo)

147 Can anyone give me some assistance here.  I told my dad about this and he wanted to stick up for huckabee.  He says that the huckster and hannity also explained that these pardons were actually the work of the governor before him, and huckabee could do nothing about them.  Now I really can't see how this could be the case since his commution came in 2001, which was well into his tenure as governor.  Can anyone help me in refuting what I smell as bullshit excusing of the democrat with a bible?

Posted by: buzzion at November 29, 2009 05:08 PM (opdYb)

148

anyway we'll find out whether or not Huckadoodle would have released the DC beltway snipers on his "actionline"....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 05:08 PM (dCpk3)

149

Piss off.

Yeah, you'd like that - right in your big fat RINO mouth - wouldn't you?

I'll drop Andrew Sullivan a line and see if he can free up some time in his busy schedule so as to drop by your place later tonight.

 

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 05:08 PM (cu0m1)

150 I'm about as far as one can get from RINO, fool.

Posted by: Chef Boy RDB at November 29, 2009 05:08 PM (q6dIH)

151 Huckabiggot is a fascist with a bible. Sanctimonious piece of frozen shit on a stick. Also Cocks

Posted by: The guy who says Also Cocks at November 29, 2009 05:08 PM (QBQcg)

152 It's tragic that it may take the deaths of four police officers to put the final nail in that b'stids political coffin instead of my fellow evangelicals taking their heads out of their collective ass and running Huckster out of town on a rail as he has so richly deserved for years.

Posted by: Laura at November 29, 2009 05:08 PM (96l0v)

153 Well, it looks like we have our winner. This will simplify where our money and backing goes. All we need now is Scozzafava to lead off our convention.

Go, Huckabee!

Posted by: GOP Establishment at November 29, 2009 05:08 PM (5zA/v)

154 Certain fuckin' doomabee".......I go years wanting to come up with something that god.....YEARS...

Entropy gets the credit for that one. He started using it back during the primary and I adopted it for most of my Huckabee ranting since then.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at November 29, 2009 05:09 PM (Mi2wf)

155 Huck Huck Huck...What the Fuck...


Posted by: SoCalME at November 29, 2009 05:09 PM (lxEx/)

156 Our new troll's hash almost spells 'Cuomo.'

Interesting.

Posted by: nickless at November 29, 2009 05:09 PM (MMC8r)

157 I think Elmer Gantrybee will still run, and the people who liked him before will still like him.  Never understood this guy's support; don't expect that to change.

Posted by: les grossman at November 29, 2009 05:09 PM (Vc/xe)

158 It's tragic that it may take the deaths of four police officers to put the final nail in that b'stids political coffin instead of my fellow evangelicals taking their heads out of their collective ass and running Huckster out of town on a rail as he has so richly deserved for years.

Indeed. 

Posted by: Slublog at November 29, 2009 05:10 PM (MWsXW)

159

152,

the argument seems to be, "well gosh the process was started already so who was I to quibble"....

 

um Governor Elvis sir, you were the governor it was your judgement call not your predecessors....

 

the passed buck just killed 4 cops and raped a baby.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 05:10 PM (dCpk3)

160 131

60 years for a burglary charge does sound excessive on face value. And to an earlier poster, why not throw him in a clink for 100 years for jaywalking? It would have "saved lives" too.

How about we throw your whining crybaby RINO parasite ass into jail with him?

We'll let him have the top bunk - you can be his wife...

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 09:59 PM (cu0m1)

Maybe you should check out this site: http://www.xanax.com/ 

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 29, 2009 05:10 PM (H7Rlw)

161 I should say this because... well, I should say it.

Much as I'm glad Huck is a goner, this event wasn't worth it. Four dead cops isn't worth it. If the lowlife had missed and his would-be targets had awarded him his Darwin, we'd be seeing the same result re: Huck. But now Seattle is short four cops which it clearly needs. And it's not worth it.

Posted by: Zimriel at November 29, 2009 05:11 PM (IJMBR)

162
Liberal bed wetters with programs on Fox:
Geraldo
Shep
Huck
Cavuto
Greta
Chris Wallace

Posted by: Flying Monkey at November 29, 2009 05:11 PM (Oxen1)

163 The Huck stops here.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 29, 2009 05:11 PM (kKP5O)

164 let us bow

Posted by: Jimmy Swaggart at November 29, 2009 05:11 PM (cIkZu)

165 Much as I'm glad Huck is a goner, this event wasn't worth it.

Word.

Posted by: nickless at November 29, 2009 05:11 PM (MMC8r)

166 You know who this hurts the most?  Allahpundit. 
No more ridiculously overly stretched comparisons between Palin and the Huckster. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 29, 2009 05:12 PM (sey23)

167 And now nine more hours of illiterate Fox sodomites talking about cake boy golfer.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 29, 2009 05:13 PM (kKP5O)

168

Can you appreciate the dilemma facing the lamestream media tonight?

Sexually-confused minority businessman, fleeing from the "judgement" of a Right-wing fundamentist Republican Governor, is wounded by four cops!

See, no problemo.

Posted by: sherlock at November 29, 2009 05:13 PM (ktKOD)

169

171, Y-not

 

nah AP will engage in some of his patented RiNO-fu and explain that what this really shows is how Sarah Palin would have ruined the nation as vice-President....

 

the east Anglia 'scientists' aren't the only clowns who double down on stupid.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 05:14 PM (dCpk3)

Posted by: sickinmass at November 29, 2009 05:15 PM (g7J39)

171

Now Huck can run as a Democrat.

Posted by: kansas at November 29, 2009 05:15 PM (i0WE5)

172 hey buddy I ah need to uh apologize for not giving equal time to nancy tennis stars as much as Tiger's stunt driving....

Posted by: sheperd smiff' cake boy journalist at November 29, 2009 05:16 PM (dCpk3)

173 I remember a sentencing hearing where a dude found out that the house he robbed belonged to the mother of a State Trooper. He got 25 years.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 05:16 PM (W98LL)

174

Sexually-confused minority businessman, fleeing from the "judgement" of a Right-wing fundamentist Republican Governor, is wounded by four cops!

See, no problemo.

Posted by: sherlock at November 29, 2009 10:13 PM (ktKOD)

Oh, well played, sir.  You must have a corner office at Black Rock to do that so smoothly.

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2009 05:16 PM (Ate22)

175

175, Beijing Billy didn't do this....and I hate that I have to defend him....

 

Jim Guy Tucker was a mighty man washed his face in a frying pan....now off to jail Jim Guy Tucker we're stuck with Huck you dirty fucker....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 05:18 PM (dCpk3)

176 At least this will get Tiger Woods off the front page.

Posted by: bob at November 29, 2009 05:18 PM (dRuHh)

177 One of the startling things that was reported during the primary was that Huck had pardoned more perps than  the three states gov's surrounding Arkansas combined. I think his high polling numbers in the Repub party are due to his visibility on Fox and not to his views. I think he would vote for the health care bill in some form and he is too liberal whenit somes to human nature. The people of his state gave him the power to pardon not to play God.

Posted by: Inspectorudy at November 29, 2009 05:18 PM (Vo1wX)

178 All married with children. Probably arranged by our racist Federal Government.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 29, 2009 05:18 PM (kKP5O)

179 Once again, people, don't go jumping to conclusions, just because he had a violent criminal history and perhaps raped a child.  Let's let cooler heads prevail.  No rushing to judgment.  This is, after all, the Age of Obama. 

*Someone kill me now.  Please.*


Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 05:19 PM (UOM48)

180 In Huck's defense, no one can ingest as much semen as Huck has over the years and still be thinking clearly.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at November 29, 2009 05:20 PM (muUqs)

181

184,

now when it comes to racist crackers killing that census guy in Kain'tuck on the uh other hand um...oh ah er never mind.

Posted by: Barack T. Ogabe esq. at November 29, 2009 05:20 PM (dCpk3)

182 I think it's possible to be happy at the comeuppance of someone who showed his true, despicable character in the primaries vis a vis Mitt Romney, and at the same time feel horrified over the death of four people; and four law officers to boot.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 05:20 PM (I2aaX)

183 have they caught the m-fkr yet?

Posted by: SoCalME at November 29, 2009 05:21 PM (lxEx/)

184 The Huckster really screwed Droopy on this. The guy got 60 years for something that usually will get you a lot less. My take on it is that the guy had a ton of charges against him, he did a plea to these crimes, but was to get the maximum. Huckster came in and f'd it up.

This is why it pisses me off when the Libs want to give voting rights to felons, especially the ones convicted of non violent crimes (ie drugs). Most were charged with violent crimes, but pleaded them down. Now when they want their rights back, they claim that they weren't convicted of a violent crime.

Posted by: mrcaniac at November 29, 2009 05:21 PM (Vol3D)

185

185,

I beg to differ.....Dan and I had a 'special relationship'....

Posted by: Mary Mapes-Dan Rather's main mama at November 29, 2009 05:21 PM (dCpk3)

186 Sheesh. Someone dropped a big bomb of crazy up in this thread. 'Cuomo' (good catch nickless!), dial it back a bit.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 29, 2009 05:22 PM (XQwpJ)

187 I liked Huckabee enough to vote for him last time around (in a pretty meh field).  And I would have again, though not against Palin or either Cheney.  But any of us Bible-believing Christians would have to admit (and may have, I didn't read all the comments) that you prove yourself worthy of great responsibility through the way you handle lesser responsibilities.  Whatever his motivation, this was clearly a misuse of the authority given him as Governor and the consequnces cannot be ignored.

Though given the time frame, we may want to wait to see a conviction, should the suspect be caught alive.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 05:22 PM (zyyJm)

188 MM has this up front.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 29, 2009 05:22 PM (kKP5O)

189

Liberalism is going to get us all killed soon.  this "feel good" way of doing things not backed up by logic is a death sentence. 

 

On a positive side.  Without huck Palin is clear fav in Iowa and south Carolina.  If she does ok in NH  Palin comes out of South Carolina with the wind to her back  and the nomination pretty much under her belt into super tuesday. 

 

Posted by: unseen at November 29, 2009 05:23 PM (aVGmX)

190 I should say this because... well, I should say it.

Much as I'm glad Huck is a goner, this event wasn't worth it. Four dead cops isn't worth it. If the lowlife had missed and his would-be targets had awarded him his Darwin, we'd be seeing the same result re: Huck. But now Seattle is short four cops which it clearly needs. And it's not worth it.

Posted by: Zimriel at November 29, 2009 10:11 PM (IJMBR)

You are confusing the cosmic timeline.  No one is pleased that the four police officers died, no matter what other knock-on effects their deaths precipitated.  The four police officers were not killed to discredit Mike Huckabee, nor would anyone have made such a vile bargain.  But they're gone, and not gloating over the collateral damage to Huckabee's political career won't bring them back.

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2009 05:23 PM (Ate22)

191

187 PP,

Yeah that's where I am....

 

was never a Romney guy but the games Huckadoodle and Juan Queeg played in West Virginia left ash in my mouth that was not cleared until Juan picked Sarah....then my wallet opened to Juan Rino's traveling Fascist enabler campaign.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 05:23 PM (dCpk3)

192

I always got the feeling / impression / vibe that Huckabee’s primary appeal was religion; that he is and always was a deeply religious man, and that this appealed to very many people, many in the South. Unfortunately, that’s most of what Huckabee had going for him.

But it’s now clear that Huckabee is a beginner, a novice, someone with poor judgement, someone easily fooled, someone with no fortitude to see someone punished, the Republican Jimmy Carter.

This little episode needs to be thrown in Huck’s face repeatedly, starting in July 2011 or January 2012 at the latest, as an example of poor judgement and overall inability.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 29, 2009 05:23 PM (Ym9lj)

193 The Name at November 29, 2009 10:08 PM You're trying too hard. Everyone thinks you are a trolling MOBY. Also Cocks

Posted by: The guy who says Also Cocks at November 29, 2009 05:24 PM (QBQcg)

194 I guess Huck can't count on the cop vote now.

Posted by: lan sing at November 29, 2009 05:25 PM (cEOZd)

195 Al, Jesse, stay out of this. Go bang some ACORN chicks and take some time off.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 05:26 PM (W98LL)

196 Huckabee trends conservative out of office and only to get into office. Once in nature calls and voilá, he trends liberal. He's a chameleon; or worse, the consummate politician.

Sorry 'bout the profanity there, Ace. I hate to pull out the "p" word.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 29, 2009 05:26 PM (5zA/v)

197

I guess they are back to paying the trolls, but what a stupid name, "The Name"

Really f king creative, that's for sure.

Posted by: Kemp at November 29, 2009 05:26 PM (2+9Yx)

198 I am anti-Huckabee for a number of reasons.  Not the least of which is that he tip-toed into the slot in the primaries that was destined to be Fred Thompson's.  Fred was set up to ride in on the white horse as a true conservative and this charlatan came out of nowhere and took Fred's votes.  Sucks.

Posted by: The Diddy at November 29, 2009 05:27 PM (R08C+)

199 Trolls call trolls trolls.  Interesting.

Posted by: lan sing at November 29, 2009 05:29 PM (cEOZd)

200 If I had to guess why Huckabee freed all those prisioners, I'd say that he was thinking he was doing something good for his immortal soul.  I'll go out on a limb, not knowing the guy, and wonder if he consoles himself that the four cops went to heaven too.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at November 29, 2009 05:29 PM (f4sLg)

201 Don't make me come down there.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at November 29, 2009 05:29 PM (b+I5u)

202 Huck would probably pardon KSM if given the chance... good thing he will never get that chance...  We do not need a bleeding heart, father knows best, lets talk it over kinda dip shit in the oval office. We have enough problems with what we have now.


Posted by: SoCalME at November 29, 2009 05:30 PM (lxEx/)

203 And don't tell me y'all don't know who this benefits, F_ING A BIG TIME?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at November 29, 2009 05:31 PM (UqJ8A)

204

207,

 

er uh um uh why go for the ah pardon when your and Eric Holder can get the guy exonerated in a civillian court trial?

 

Barack T. Ogabe-esq.

Posted by: Barack T. Ogabe esq. at November 29, 2009 05:34 PM (dCpk3)

205 Mitt wouldn't have pardoned the dirtbag, but he would have sentenced the folks in Arkansas to live under socialist healthcare. And he'll do the same to the rest of us, too.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 05:35 PM (58r4l)

206 But its now clear that Huckabee is a beginner, a novice, someone with poor judgement, someone easily fooled, someone with no fortitude to see someone punished, the Republican Jimmy Carter.

I think it was clear back in the day when the Cato Institute was giving him D ratings in their governor's report card. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 29, 2009 05:36 PM (sey23)

207

I always got the feeling / impression / vibe that Huckabee’s primary appeal was religion; that he is and always was a deeply religious man, and that this appealed to very many people, many in the South. Unfortunately, that’s most of what Huckabee had going for him.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 29, 2009 10:23 PM (Ym9lj)

Yep, and true religious faith was no doubt what inspired him to disregard the laws of man and substitute his personal judgment in granting this individual clemency.  In my opinion, that was entirely the wrong basis for making such a decision, and of course he came to entirely the wrong decision.

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2009 05:36 PM (Ate22)

208 Mike Huckakis

Posted by: libbyt at November 29, 2009 05:37 PM (p5KA9)

209

210,

Mitt made an error in judgement trying to get the best deal he could from Moonbattachusettes donk legislature....

Huckadoodle screwed a chicken he had total power over.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 05:37 PM (dCpk3)

210 Huckabee's future in politics is guaranteed to be non-existent if Clemmons is the shooter.

Posted by: GarandFan at November 29, 2009 05:37 PM (ZQBnQ)

211 #210, that was actually funny; and yes, Romney has some splainin to do.  But just remember: if he doesn't splain, both of us will be sentenced to Obama's second term, and a nuclear Iran, Yemen, Venezuela, Brazil, etc., etc., etc.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 05:39 PM (I2aaX)

212 I am anti-Huckabee for a number of reasons.  Not the least of which is that he tip-toed into the slot in the primaries that was destined to be Fred Thompson's.

I liked Fred early on.  Later, when my choices were narrowed to Romney, McCain, and Huckabee by Fred's complete lack of enthusiasm, I backed Romney.  All three were lousy, but I wouldn't dream of voting for McCain or Huckabee.  Romney appealed to me because he was a successful businessman.  I could excuse his faults on the grounds that he was serving as governor of a very left-wing state.  I couldn't excuse the faults of McAmnesty or Fuckabee so easily.   When McCain got the nomination,  I ended up throwing my vote to a third party in the last election.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 05:40 PM (BBlLR)

213 I would hate to think of the kind of human I would be if I thought people were beyond forgiveness and beyond reformation and beyond some sense of improvement

That's great, Huck. But that forgiveness is not yours to grant. It belongs to those harmed by the criminal ... and to God. And you are neither.

“I would not deny that my sense of the reality of redemption is a factor

One need not leave prison to be redeemed.

Jackass.

Your moral preening just cost four families a loved one. Sleep well.

Posted by: Warden at November 29, 2009 05:40 PM (lEqfY)

214 214, Bull crap. Mitt could have vetoed. A Conservative would have done so. Mitt said he liked Mass Health. He said he liked mandates. He's a useless zebra-fucking mutant.

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 05:41 PM (58r4l)

215 One has to remember, Huckleberry was, according to some polls, the front-runner for the GOP nomination in 2012, and he matched up pretty well against 0bama.

This isn't good news, as the MSM will no doubt dredge up a thousand stories about the Willie Horton-Michael Dukakis controversy from 1988. This just gives them another excuse to perpetuate the "Republicans are racist" meme.

You watch.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 05:42 PM (ADbI4)

216

219,

Look fella it is what it is.....

MItt knew if he was not going to be John the Baptist for Deval Patrick he would have to tack left...he is a bit of a squish but far preferable to Chicago Jesus or even Juan Queeg IMHO....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 05:44 PM (dCpk3)

217 "When McCain got the nomination,  I ended up throwing my vote to a third party in the last election."

I almost did that. But I live in a swing state, and I remembered the importance of every vote in Florida in 2000. So I held my nose and voted for McCain-Palin.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 05:44 PM (ADbI4)

218

I guess they are back to paying the trolls, but what a stupid name, "The Name"

Really f king creative, that's for sure.


Hey!

Posted by: Has anyone seen Nom de Blog recently? at November 29, 2009 05:45 PM (zyyJm)

219

220 RJ,

that will be a neat bout of mental gymnastics for the newsies since Huckadoodle released a black man to go forth and sin some more...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 05:45 PM (dCpk3)

220 Eman: ever hear of "veto override?"  Also, neither of us know the extent to which whatever MA has was larded up in the last two years.

But as I said, if Romney doesn't explain, and delineate these things, he, too, will be toast...

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 05:45 PM (I2aaX)

221
Heckuva job, Huckabee!

Your malfeasance cost four cops their lives.

Do us (and their families) a favor and eat your gun.

Posted by: thebronze at November 29, 2009 05:45 PM (86F8f)

222 206 Don't make me come down there.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at November 29, 2009 10:29 PM (b+I5u)

What the fuck are you waiting for?  Get the fuck down here NOW!

Posted by: CDR M at November 29, 2009 05:46 PM (cvmTR)

223 "MItt knew if he was not going to be John the Baptist for Deval Patrick he would have to tack left"

Sorry, but I don't understand this reference...

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 05:46 PM (ADbI4)

224 I wonder what this Clemmons has been doing for the last 9 years - Seems it would be difficult for a criminal like him to stay out of trouble that long.

Posted by: lan sing at November 29, 2009 05:46 PM (cEOZd)

225 >>Your moral preening just cost four families a loved one. Sleep well.
Posted by: Warden

And nine children between the 4 slain officers. 2 were shot point blank in the head from 4 feet. 1 just above the vest. The other struggled with the perp and died soon after.

Posted by: sickinmass at November 29, 2009 05:46 PM (g7J39)

226 One need not leave prison to be redeemed.

Posted by: Warden at November 29, 2009 10:40 PM (lEqfY)

Precisely!

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2009 05:47 PM (Ate22)

227 Huckabee has been holding around 11 on InTrade.  I suspect that will collapse near zero pretty soon now that he's Willie Horton'd himself.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 29, 2009 05:48 PM (QA21d)

228

228,

Deval "I am at half Ogabe's popularity" Patrick the governor of Taxachustettes now....

 

look Romney getting elected there was a damn near miracle, that he talked the legislature into a 1/2 to 3/4 free market based plan another....

 

it not working well is beyond the scope of understanding that he understood the dorks were gonna pass "something"...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2009 05:49 PM (dCpk3)

229 224:

Watch the news tomorrow. They will find a way to bring up Willie Horton and imply that most Republicans are racist. Just wait.

Hell, it's almost guaranteed that there will be a post on AoSHQ tomorrow pointing out the lunacy of some scumbag on MSNBC or on some left-wing blog turning this into a rehash of the "Republicans are racist filth" meme from the 1988 campaign.

Again, just wait. It is going to happen.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 05:49 PM (ADbI4)

230 From the linked article:
Deputies also interviewed other family members. They reported that Clemmons had been saying he could fly and that he expected President Obama to visit to "confirm that he is Messiah in the flesh."

220 One has to remember, Huckleberry was, according to some polls, the front-runner for the GOP nomination in 2012, and he matched up pretty well against 0bama.

Posted by: I'm just sayin' at November 29, 2009 05:50 PM (zyyJm)

231 I almost did that. But I live in a swing state, and I remembered the importance of every vote in Florida in 2000. So I held my nose and voted for McCain-Palin.

That's understandable.  I live in deep blue Washington so my vote was a matter of principle rather than pragmatism.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 05:51 PM (BBlLR)

232 Another Christian runs amuck ???

Posted by: john at November 29, 2009 05:52 PM (m0Q2u)

233 @226
That's just unnecessary.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 05:52 PM (zyyJm)

234 225, Let them override it! Jeebus. Plus, I was a Mass resident then and it was crystal clear that MassHealth was a nightmare right from the start. Mitt showed that his core principles are "What works best for Mitt". He's a useless zebra-fucking mutant that lies to the zebra about promising to call and "you're the only zebra for me and that RINO didn't mean anything".

Posted by: eman at November 29, 2009 05:53 PM (58r4l)

235 who wants bets this gets more media coverage in the Obama media than Climategate over the next week. I  mean clearly a former governor with no hopes at all now of ever running for president is MUCH bigger story than the falsifying global warming evidence right before Obama goes before the world again vowing to destroy American Business err save the planet.

Posted by: Night Marshal at November 29, 2009 05:53 PM (9GlV2)

236

211 Y-not at November 29, 2009 10:36 PM

Yes. Unfortunately the Cato Institute gives an abstract report, which many thought nice and then ignored. Now we have 4 dead police officers (why?) and 4 broken families. I don't have words for this. What will Huckabee say?

 

"…and of course he came to entirely the wrong decision."

212 stuiec at November 29, 2009 10:36 PM

I'd very much like to avoid having Huckabee’s future decisions affect me directly and personally.  I've seen people like him, and they always manage to hurt everyone within their grasp.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 29, 2009 05:53 PM (Ym9lj)

237 I knew Huckabee was fifty pounds of awful in a five-pound bag, but... damn.

Self-righteousness kills.

Posted by: schizuki at November 29, 2009 05:53 PM (A1XjQ)

238 I believe Huckabee, despite his very sincere faith, was influenced by liberal, secular ideas of mercy.  Romans 13:4 has a very different take on mercy to the condemned:  For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

Posted by: Bible-thumping social con at November 29, 2009 05:54 PM (Gyl12)

239

Much as I'm glad Huck is a goner, this event wasn't worth it. Four dead cops isn't worth it. If the lowlife had missed and his would-be targets had awarded him his Darwin, we'd be seeing the same result re: Huck. But now Seattle is short four cops which it clearly needs. And it's not worth it.

That's the only reason I can't gloat over Muthafuckabee's fall from grace - because it took the lives of three good men and a good woman to accomplish it.

Burn in hell, Muthafuckabee.

 

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 05:56 PM (cu0m1)

240

Sanford - Appalachia tunnel...to Argentina

Newt - Scozzafava'ed

Cheney - Bush baggage

Mitt - Romneycare, coward

Huckster - Horton'ed out

Jeb Bush - Bush name

Petraeus - Apparently no interest

Jindal - too young, nerdy, and said he's out

Barbour - old, white, gray-haired Southerner

Crist - oh, please

Huntsman - Obamabot

Gary Johnson - Who?

Pawlenty - He of half a testicle and moderation

Who is left?

Thune - Who?  VP?  maybe if he behaves

Santorum - ?  Be good and you get Veep spot

Who is left?

 

The Commonsense Conservative who walks the talk, and is fearless.

Palin/? 2012

She'll get 55% of the vote, pull the 2004 states of Bush and pick up Wisconsin.

The only question is her Veep.  If she is smart, which I think she is, she'll pick the Veep early and it will be someone who gel's well with the team and possibly unites the party and gets focused on vision early and with power.

Posted by: Sapwolf at November 29, 2009 05:56 PM (maJDK)

241 So, will O'Reilly have the stones and the integrity to hit this hard, if it turns out this is the guy?

Posted by: schizuki at November 29, 2009 05:56 PM (A1XjQ)

242 If the murderous bastard had run in firing and screaming "Allah Akbar" (or whatever), the media would be tip-toeing all over themselves to keep from appearing "insensitive".  Now if the guy turns out to be a "Christian", well let's open the flood gates. 

Thanks, Chucklebee.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at November 29, 2009 05:57 PM (UOM48)

243 I just thought I'd let you morons know that since this story effectively kills the career of a bible beating, christianist politician I will be all over it.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 29, 2009 05:57 PM (QQM/B)

244 All that will show up in the news tomorrow is "another example of poor governance by a Republican governor."

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas Past at November 29, 2009 05:58 PM (H1Qt1)

245

@226 That's just unnecessary.

I don't have any problem with what 226 said.

In fact, Muthafuckabee can't get fired by Roger Ailes and then go down a gallon of Vodka and a bottle of Valium fast enough for my liking.

 

Posted by: The Name at November 29, 2009 06:00 PM (cu0m1)

246
I believe Huckabee, despite his very sincere faith, was influenced by liberal, secular ideas of mercy.  Romans 13:4 has a very different take on mercy to the condemned: 
For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

Posted by: Bible-thumping social con at November 29, 2009 10:54 PM (Gyl12)





Thats the whole problem with the Shucksterbee. The guy would be leading with his bible instead of the written rule of law and the Constitution and we don't fuckin' need that shit.

Posted by: Blazer at November 29, 2009 06:00 PM (+FzLa)

247 Huckabee was always a disaster-in-waiting for the GOP and he is now gone. Thank God! It would have been better had he died of a heart attack before the retarded inbred citizenry of Arkansas elected him. Then four police officers would still be alive.

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at November 29, 2009 06:00 PM (ZiQz8)

248 You guys in the South like barbecue. Bring back the electric chair.

Posted by: chicocano at November 29, 2009 06:01 PM (2n5cq)

249

Huckabee is letting killers out. Romney passed huge healthcare entitlements and therefore cant battle Obama on healthcare today when we need it.

Palin is kicking ass every day on healthcare and military matters, taking on the messiah without fear.

Gee, I wonder who should be my choice?

Posted by: Dan at November 29, 2009 06:01 PM (KZraB)

250 245:  Romney-Palin.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 06:02 PM (I2aaX)

251 Sapwolf! Right on!

Posted by: Dan at November 29, 2009 06:02 PM (KZraB)

252 233:

Yeah, but I don't get the John The Baptist reference. How was Mitt playing that role? What does that imply?

Sorry, I'm agnostic. :-/

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 06:05 PM (ADbI4)

253 Sorry guys, but look at Palin's poll numbers. A plurality of Americans think she's a theocratic lying corrupt moron. Is that true? No (although she isn't the smartest potential candidate we have). But facts don't matter. What matters is that the independent voters (who decide elections) don't like her.

Thune-Jindal in 2012.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 06:08 PM (ADbI4)

254

@245:  Palin, like W. in 2000, needs gravitas.  She really is a political and executive freshman, albeit with a respectable record of accomplishment that she's not given credit for on the left.  So she'll need a Cheney if she's going to angle for the top spot, and I'm not sure who we've got on our side except the Cheney.  Too many of the others would be more like her Joe Biden, venerable but clownish.

Except for the fact he's ruled it out, I'd prefer Cheney for the top spot to most of the likely GOP field.  Three more years of the One and an experienced executive is going to start looking mighty attractive, especially if he can throw some red meat to fiscal conservatives and moderates who want to salve their pride for being sold on Obama as a centrist.

Posted by: Still Thinks Palin is Hot at November 29, 2009 06:08 PM (Gyl12)

255 I just thought I'd let you morons know that since this story effectively kills the career of a bible beating, christianist politician I will be all over it. From a joke to reality. That is the headline on lgf.....

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at November 29, 2009 06:08 PM (ZiQz8)

256 255
The thing with Palin is that the more the MSM tries to destroy her the stronger she gets. ... so I like to see even the negative press on her. She always seems to weather the storm and is stronger for it.    Whatever doesn't kill you only makes you stronger and she'll be plenty strong in 2012

Posted by: Pull-my-finger at November 29, 2009 06:09 PM (lxEx/)

257

I don't have any problem with what 226 said.

In fact, Muthafuckabee can't get fired by Roger Ailes and then go down a gallon of Vodka and a bottle of Valium fast enough for my liking.

The Name, I don't doubt that.  You are a troll and an ugly one at that.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 06:10 PM (zyyJm)

258

huck disappearing off the face of the earth is not worth 4 officers lives.

bullshit.

Posted by: evil libertarian at November 29, 2009 06:10 PM (dmNcQ)

259 Cheney supports homosexual marriage. Too leftist.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 06:10 PM (ADbI4)

260 259

what polls are you looking at?  Every credible poll has her at a net + amongst independents.

Posted by: BD at November 29, 2009 06:12 PM (zzd8k)

261 245:  Romney-Palin.

I would counter Palin-Romney, but I still don't see what he brings to the ticket.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 06:12 PM (zyyJm)

262

 

Palin/Bolton 2012

Posted by: RarestRX at November 29, 2009 06:12 PM (rmNST)

263 My sister likes Huckabee and probably still does.    I never did.    Oh, I suppose he's *likable* enough, but he shares Jimmy Carter's primary flaw.

He's a Christian who understands redemption but doesn't understand sin or our fallen state.    He wants to give even the worst people the benefit of the doubt, give them a chance, and think the best of them.    Because that's what Jesus would do.

But he's not Jesus.    And neither is Jimmy Carter.   

And even if, as individuals, we're commanded to forgive...  we're not talking about individuals holding anger and resentment and having that eat away inside them... and the command to forgive is for *our* benefit, we're talking about government.

And government... or at least the courts... are supposed to take up justice so that the people don't have to take up vengeance.

Posted by: Synova at November 29, 2009 06:12 PM (NTu5Z)

264 It's Willie Horton, only worse.  Everything I suspected about Huckabee is true.  Or should I say, Huckakis?

Posted by: Cicero at November 29, 2009 06:13 PM (+AEJn)

265   It seems that Huck thought he was the governor of Monopoly and passed out "get out of jail free cards" -- in the name of Jesus, of course.    Jesus probably would have said "no card for you, but if you repent, you won't burn in hell."   Unfortunately, politicians sometimes think they can interpret what God would do in order to suit their political needs.  That, and they think they ARE God sometimes.  

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas Past at November 29, 2009 06:14 PM (H1Qt1)

266 Anyone watching the Steelers-Ravens game? Wow...

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 06:15 PM (ADbI4)

267 Cheney leftist???  Wha???

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas Past at November 29, 2009 06:17 PM (H1Qt1)

268 He wants to give even the worst people the benefit of the doubt, give them a chance, and think the best of them.    Because that's what Jesus would do.

Er, about that...

Posted by: The Pharisees at November 29, 2009 06:17 PM (zyyJm)

269

Posted by: Sapwolf at November 29, 2009 10:56 PM (maJDK)

That pretty much sums it up.

Posted by: billy at November 29, 2009 06:18 PM (mxvuR)

270

20 Mitt Romney just raised one of his eyebrows in a Spock sort of way.  And made long term hotel reservations in Iowa for the next two years.

And, somewhere tonight a smoking hot brunette with a world class a$$ is "googling" RomneyCare.

Posted by: bw222 at November 29, 2009 06:19 PM (jqZr+)

271

The Rombots gloating over Huckabee going up in flames is funny.  Your own guy was toast months ago due to his big government Romneycare.

It's time to unite behind the Cuda (at least until it is confirmed with DNA that Trig is Bigfoot's child - Double Ace Flaming Skull). 

Posted by: Sapwolf at November 29, 2009 06:19 PM (maJDK)

272 OK, between this guy and Wayne DuMond, that's five innocent people who are dead today because of Mike Huckabee.  Why does anybody - let alone any Republican - continue to take this jerk seriously?

Posted by: Xrlq at November 29, 2009 06:21 PM (IOf/Z)

273 Methos, you know what he brings to the ticket; you just don't like what you fear is the RINO overlay.  He's not a Huck; he's not a (domestic-side) McCain.

Also, you might want to reality-check your fantasies of Palin being this uber-Conservative.  If you put the healthcare thing aside, I challenge you to explain how Romney is less conservative than Palin; or how Palin is more conservative that Romney.


Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 06:22 PM (I2aaX)

274 279

Romney was Pro-choice until he decided to run for the GOP POTUS nomination

end of story

Posted by: bd at November 29, 2009 06:24 PM (zzd8k)

275 279

"Let me make this very clear: I will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose."

- Mitt Romney

Posted by: bd at November 29, 2009 06:26 PM (zzd8k)

276 Huckabee is a piece of shit and should now retire in disgrace.  His show should be canceled. 

Posted by: Ken Royall at November 29, 2009 06:26 PM (9zzk+)

277 Short!

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 06:28 PM (zyyJm)

278

Mitt is hobbled by the Massachusetts health care debale.

Huck is hobbled even more by this horrible crime.

So who is still viable for 2012?

Posted by: Mark at November 29, 2009 06:29 PM (Vvbjc)

279

ParisParamus, "the healthcare thing" is a pretty damn big thing to put aside.  That's a nice trick though, asking us to put aside the biggest, most relevant issue.

Especially if health care passes in any form, we're going to need a candidate who can make the case for repealing it to the American public.  And Romney's already put his balls in a vise on that issue.  If it goes down in flames he might be a possibility.  I do like his credibility on fiscal issues, which we may need.  I'm a little baffled that anyone considers him very conservative to begin with though.

Posted by: Shouldn't have tested the "balls in a vice" simile in real life :( at November 29, 2009 06:30 PM (Gyl12)

280 I can still support Huck for the Senate....against Blanche Lincoln

Posted by: jason at November 29, 2009 06:31 PM (3cIbR)

281

   280    Bingo!

Posted by: Sapwolf at November 29, 2009 06:32 PM (maJDK)

282

279

Palin has always been pro-life

Mitt, hard to tell.

Palin has been out front on free market health care reform

Mitt has limited his abbilities there by his Massachusetts health care reform

Palin is pro-gun

Mitt?

I like Mitt, but I think it is obvious that Palin is quite a bit more conservative and consistently so over a longer period of time. I wouldn't mind Mitt being somewhere in a conservative adminstration though.

Posted by: Mark at November 29, 2009 06:34 PM (Vvbjc)

283 Tom Tancredo in 2012!

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 06:34 PM (ADbI4)

284 #279, That's was not his position in 2008, or now; and in any case, he clearly stated he would nominate SCOTUS Judges a la Scalia, Roberts, and Alito; strict constructionists, as they say.

As I've said many times here (and I have no vested interest in supporting Romney: I don't know him; I'm not a member of his Church; and I admit he's flawed, just less flawed than that likely alternatives; he just strikes me as the best shot we have to slay the Obama Dragon),

Palin cannot win in 2012; her best, and I suspect, only shot at the Presidency is to be picked as a VP, and audition and reassure a large segment of the electorate in that capacity.

Romney-Palin could win; would freak out the right people; and would put Palin in position to run for President.






Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 06:36 PM (I2aaX)

285 Palin will never be picked as a running mate again. The MSM meme is that she hurt McCain. It might not be true, but it's the conventional wisdom.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 06:37 PM (ADbI4)

286 288:  Whatever the motivation (assuming they diverge), Romney and Palin would pick exactly the same SCOTUS Judges.

You're doing no one a service (other than Obama) by suggesting otherwise.  You're also fantasizing if you think that abortion is going to become "less legal" in our lifetimes.  Moral stigma is the way to go for the foreseeable future--deal with it.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 06:41 PM (I2aaX)

287 Hey douchebags...this thread isn't about Palin, or Romney. It is about a Christian fascist who imposed his will as though it were the lords will. Fuck him. Also Cocks

Posted by: The guy who says Also Cocks at November 29, 2009 06:41 PM (QBQcg)

288

I voted for McCain in 2008, and Ifd vote for Palin in 2012. If she is the candidate in 2012, Ifll vote for her.

That being said, I have my doubts about her being able to win. I say this because in the runup to 2008, a number of non-political women that I talked to showed weirdly negative reactions to Palin. They couldnft elaborate, it was just, just, just, c Letfs see, shefs achieved all of the Frminazi dream and very much more, is still young, and did all this as a Conservative, i.e., no Socialist / Leftist values. I donft understand the reactions I saw, but they were not fake.

I think that Sarah Palin is at her maximum popularity being just who she is, which I believe is exactly the image she presents. The problem is to make that image more acceptable to non-political people. I donft have good suggestions on how to do this.

Maybe books and hook tours, coupled with some political activism will be enough. Keep watching the polls.

@

I still like Fred Thompson, but his career over the past 20 or so years doesnft give him lots of political credibility. He has the appearance and persona, but acting isnft a good stepping-stone to the presidency (although itfs better than community organizer). Perhaps if he had planned things in 98 and got re-elected to the Senate and was ending his term now c

As posted previously, maybe Tancredo.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 29, 2009 06:42 PM (Ym9lj)

289 Right now there are no real winners being mentioned as a GOP candidate.  Palin is so damaged by the media that she will <i>never</i> be a viable candidate.  Steele better get his lantern out and start looking real hard.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at November 29, 2009 06:44 PM (QQM/B)

290 ParisParamus, when he had a chance to prove his motivations as a Governor, he either embraced big government healthcare (suggested by his total unwillingness to acknowledge the catastrophe he helped make of his state) or folded under pressure (the most generous explanation I can give for his actions-you don't have a good explanation for why he didn't just veto the mess).  He didn't care about the sanctity of human life until he left the audience in MA in favor of national office.  I don't trust him.  And he's about as animated as Al Gore.  And he couldn't beat John McCain. 

Palin's a fighter to Romney's penchant for compromise.  She is fighting now.  Where is Romney attacking health care?  Obama's dithering on Afghanistan?  Or Iran?  Where was Romney during the NY-23 race?  Where is Romney at all on any issue?  If the Democrats find a way to cram through Obamacare are we to just accept it and move on, for the three or four years before the federal government collapses?  No, we're going to have to push hard to have it repealed.  I can see Palin doing that.  I can't see Romney undoing big government health care when he can't even acknowledge it was a mistake for the state he was responsible for.

Look, I'm sorry that we have to disagree.  We're going to have to sort it out before the end of the primary two and a half years from now.  I just don't understand the appeal he has for you.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 06:45 PM (zyyJm)

291 Seems we just figured out who this big conservative "open tent" lets in... 
Posted by: Flyover Sam
-----------------------

You're better off with us hard-headed solib fucktard libertarians.

Posted by: arhooley at November 29, 2009 06:45 PM (GKXA7)

292 Tancredo is toast.

Posted by: Corona at November 29, 2009 06:46 PM (+xghX)

293 LOL, Huckabee's show is airing on Fox News right now...

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 06:48 PM (ADbI4)

294 So, Huckabee made a statement blaming the parole board....I think he should have just kept his mouth shut.

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at November 29, 2009 06:48 PM (H1Qt1)

295 The only thing good that has come out of this terrible event has been that Huckabee will not be running...and perhaps some of the scales have fallen from his supporters' eyes.  Imho, he's been a sham; a sham that should have been outed long ago.  There's the tragedy: that lives had to be destroyed to finally get that message out. 

Posted by: unknown jane at November 29, 2009 06:49 PM (5/yRG)

296 #245

Rumor has it that Texas Gov Rick Perry might take a shot in 2012.

He's already got Palin backing him up.

Posted by: mpur at November 29, 2009 06:50 PM (K5EyT)

297 Giuliani/Palin.     That's what she was doing in New York when Letterman made his really stupid "joke" about the statutory rape of her daughter at a ball game.   She was hanging out with Giuliani.

And anyone listening to the MSM meme can only lose.

And anyone who spends all of their time deciding who can't win and who *other* people won't vote for... is going to be responsible for McCain Mark Two... whoever that ends up being.

We heard it then...

No one will vote for Giuliani because of abortion and gun control, even if he pledges not to touch either of them, even if he's sharp on conservative economics, crime and the War on Terror.

No one will vote for Romney because of his religion.

No one will vote for Fred because he's not hyper enough.

And we hear it now...

No one will vote for Palin because the media and the Democrats were mean to her.

Get over it!  Any one of them would have been better than McCain and any one of them would most likely have had a better chance to defeat Obama after the economic crash before the election.    Anyone tempted to second guess who *other* people will find electable should go to the back of the room right now!


Posted by: Synova at November 29, 2009 06:50 PM (NTu5Z)

298 RJ, I disagree.  Romney's perceived weaknesses are Palin's strengths, and vice versa.  And because VP isn't P, relatively few people will not vote for Romney because of Palin, but many will vote for Romney because of Palin (and yet far fewer would vote for the ticket if you switched them).  It's hard to explain, but it's simply true.  And if Palin is as smart as I suspect she is, she realizes that being someone's VP is her only path to President.  Pawlenty's?  MAYBE.  But I don't think Pawlenty can get the nomination.

By the way, Pawlenty pulled off a procedural feat by defeating uber liberal MN's legislatures budget;  Romney did even better in MA.  Maybe no conservative should bend a bit and attempt to seek office in a liberal state, but if that's not true, both of these individuals deserve our respect.

(OK, Pawlenty less because he seems to have been on the AGW bandwagon more)

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 06:51 PM (I2aaX)

299

For everyone saying that Palin is not viable, that she's unelectable, blah blah blah...

Did you think Huckabee was going to be blasted from the 2012 race today?  Like a fucking bolt out of the blue?

No, no you didn't.   So put away your crystal ball and conventional wisdom.

Anything can happen.

Posted by: RarestRX at November 29, 2009 06:52 PM (rmNST)

300 And if it's true that Palin is too damaged by the media and hateful attack tactics of the Democrats and "Feminists"....

Letting them *win* that just means that they'll know what works and turn it on the next person whoever that is.

There will NEVER be anyone, ever again, who will escape that destruction, no matter how insipid, how bland and unobjectionable.  

Posted by: Synova at November 29, 2009 06:54 PM (NTu5Z)

301

290 - Don't believe everything CBS and CNN spoon feeds you. I voted for Romney in the Michigan primary (even though I knew he was a fake) for one simple reason: he wasn't John McCain.

By the way, in the Michigan primary Mitt was for government bailouts for the Detroit Three. Now he isn't. Bakilouts, abortion, gay marriage and a multitude of other issues: Romney will say whatever he thinks will get him elected.

Mitt spent millions of his own money, only to lose to someone as weak as John McCain.

Palin would never run as a VP candidate again after her experience with the McCain team.

Posted by: bw222 at November 29, 2009 06:54 PM (jqZr+)

302

Get over it!  Any one of them would have been better than McCain and any one of them would most likely have had a better chance to defeat Obama after the economic crash before the election.

Doubtful if they had McCain's campaign staff.

Posted by: Mark at November 29, 2009 06:56 PM (Vvbjc)

303 304 - Care to translate what you wrote. It makes no sense.

Posted by: bw222 at November 29, 2009 06:56 PM (jqZr+)

304 Huckleberry always struck me as an Elmer Gantry type.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 06:57 PM (ADbI4)

305 307

Palin would never run as a VP candidate again after her experience with the McCain team.

No kidding! Having read her book, I think she has pretty good political instincts and is not afraid to throw punches.

Posted by: Mark at November 29, 2009 06:57 PM (Vvbjc)

306 Tom Tancredo in 2012!

Terrible Tom would be my dream candidate.  He was the very first candidate I supported during the last presidential nomination, but it quickly became clear that he didn't have a snowball's chance.  Maybe times have changed.  I would love to see Tancredo-Jindal or even Tancredo-Palin or some combination involving Jindal, Tancredo, Palin or maybe DeMint.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 06:58 PM (BBlLR)

307 Giuliani did the impossible: ran a worse campaign than McCain. Rudy started out as front runner and finished with ZERO electoral votes. Palin was in New York State primarily because of Alaska Day in Auburn, NY - not to meet with Rudy.

Posted by: bw222 at November 29, 2009 07:00 PM (jqZr+)

308 I just don't understand the appeal he has for you.

It's that he has succeeded hugely in business, and well as the government/public sector (Governor; the Olympics) he is an outsider due to his religion; he has worked his ass off, despite being born into an affluent family; and it's obvious he loves his wife, and family.  I'm also impressed he spent time in Europe, in France for his church.  He just seems like an undeniably decent, smart guy; a mensch.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 07:01 PM (I2aaX)

309 306:

You make a good point. I hate to let the bastards win.

But still. I don't want to lose a winnable election in 2012 because we chose an unpopular, unelectable candidate. Look at Palin's poll numbers. The aren't too hot.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 07:02 PM (ADbI4)

310 311 No, she wouldn't run with McCain, again.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 07:02 PM (I2aaX)

311 I think that Sarah Palin is at her maximum popularity being just who she is

I don't get this at all.  Who she is doesn't make the slightest bit of difference if she's not actually planning on running in the next election.  If that's the case she's just another celebrity.  We have Rush and Hannity and Malkin to make noise and never run for anything.

Further, where is this "maximum popularity" thing come from?  Are you completely unaware that her polls are improving?  Hot Air had a poll just the other day that showed both her and Romney very competitive (with him winning, I think) with Obumbles.

Look I think either of them could win in two and a half years.  I think any Republican has to be favored, based on the performance of Obama and his party to date and his instinct to push harder left as he meets resistance.  I would take either Cheney over them given the option.  She's generally shown the right instincts.  I don't know with any certainty where Romney's coming from.  I just think we are rapidly running out of time and we can't afford to get this wrong.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 07:03 PM (zyyJm)

312 Okay, Huckabee, even worse than we thought.  Somehow.

The exact opposite of impressive. 

Or conservative.

Posted by: Basic, b v at November 29, 2009 07:04 PM (SL3qo)

313 Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 11:45 PM (zyyJm)

I think a lot of the appeal is his business acumen, which I don't understand.  He's a businessman.  So fucking what?  So is George Soros.  And Jeffrey Immelt.  And the CEO of Duke Energy.  And Warren Buffet.  They're all a bunch of ObaMao-loving commie scum holding their filthy fucking hands out for porkulus and/ or TARP and/ or crap-and-tax monies.  I'm not putting Romney in the same class of as those guys, but the fact he's a businessman doesn't mean shit.  There's a huge difference between being pro-business and pro-free-market.

Also, if Romney doesn't want to be blamed for the totally-failed government healthcare debacle in Mass, he needs to stop taking credit for it and praising it.  You can't take credit for something and call it a good system and then turn around and blame it's failure on others.  He went so far as to commission a painting of himself with the bill on his desk, calling it "his greatest accomplishment as Governor" or something to that effect.  If he ever wants to be taken seriously as a conservative, the first thing he needs to do is disavow and condemn that miserable pile of shit healthcare bill.  Loudly, strongly, and in in no uncertain terms.  And get the bill airbrushed out of the painting.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 29, 2009 07:04 PM (Z0bVg)

314 Palin-Dobbs!

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 07:04 PM (BBlLR)

315 I love Tancredo's politics. But unfortunately, he's not a good speaker/debater. And public speaking and debating mean a lot to the average drone swing voters who inevitably decide elections.

Remember: 0bama is our President basically because he can read well from a teleprompter. I mean, what were his other qualifications?

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 07:04 PM (ADbI4)

316 Dobbs-Palin!

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 07:06 PM (BBlLR)

317 ParisParamus, "the healthcare thing" is a pretty damn big thing to put aside.

Indeed.  That's why Romney is a dead letter for me.  On his own freaking campaign web site in '08 he even mentioned the fines in MA for not signing up for RomneyCare and how he supported them.  Fuck that shit.

I can't vote for the guy.  I'd sit it out.  He's just another big government, nanny state anti-freedom statist, which isn't much different than Obama.  A few clicks on the Suck-O-Meter one way or the other isn't going to mean much these days.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 29, 2009 07:07 PM (Y1Anr)

318 RJ- his skin tone

Posted by: Naan at November 29, 2009 07:07 PM (YR3gL)

319

I doubt that Sarah Palin would trust Mitt. Why should she? In fact, based on his flip-flops, why should him. Paris, do yourself a favor: go to youtube and key in romney + abortion + debate. You'll hear the most passionate defense of a "woman's right to choose" you've ever heard in your life. This was in 2002. not 25 years ago.

Mitt isn't just a RINO, he's also a fraud. Conservatives won't back a RINO.

Posted by: bw222 at November 29, 2009 07:08 PM (jqZr+)

320 Palin/Clemmons

Posted by: libbyt at November 29, 2009 07:08 PM (5I0Yr)

321 For everyone saying that Palin is not viable, that she's unelectable, blah blah blah...

...I present to you all the dream team of competence: Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 29, 2009 07:09 PM (Y1Anr)

322

Paris -

Have you heard Mitt talk about the hardships of being a Mormon missionary (in France) while his peers were  getting theis asses shot off in Nam?

This man is a FRAUD.

Posted by: bw222 at November 29, 2009 07:11 PM (jqZr+)

323 Palin/Bolton

Posted by: gau at November 29, 2009 07:12 PM (n1uMU)

324 Huck's PAC has released a statement.

Leave a comment stating that you hold Huckabee responsible.

Posted by: Linda Gottfredson's Apprentice at November 29, 2009 07:12 PM (ZfHe9)

325 Tancredo-Dobbs would be pretty much ideal. However, it's also unelectable.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 07:13 PM (ADbI4)

326 Linda Gottfredson's Apprentice

Ha! Interesting name.  What inspired that?

Unfortunately, the link doesn't work.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 07:14 PM (BBlLR)

327 324: Well, yeah, there's that...

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 07:14 PM (ADbI4)

328 Tancredo-Dobbs would be pretty much ideal. However, it's also unelectable.

That would be a ticket from heaven.

Ticket from hell: Gore-Huckabee or ManBearFuckabee

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 07:16 PM (BBlLR)

329 Huckleberry statement:

Statement Regarding Washington State Slayings by Press Team

The senseless and savage execution of police officers in Washington State has saddened the nation, and early reports indicate that a person of interest is a repeat offender who once lived in Arkansas and was wanted on outstanding warrants here and in Washington State. The murder of any individual is a profound tragedy, but the murder of a police officer is the worst of all murders in that it is an assault on every citizen and the laws we live within.

Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington State.This commutation made him parole eligible and he was then paroled by the parole board once they determined he met the conditions at that time. He was arrested later for parole violation and taken back to prison to serve his full term, but prosecutors dropped the charges that would have held him. It appears that he has continued to have a string of criminal and psychotic behavior but was not kept incarcerated by either state. This is a horrible and tragic event and if found and convicted the offender should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. Our thoughts and prayers are and should be with the families of those honorable, brave, and heroic police officers.


http://tinyurl.com/ybufbbd


Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 07:17 PM (ADbI4)

330 My dream ticket...Palin / DeMint.

Posted by: Countrysquire at November 29, 2009 07:18 PM (FpH7L)

331 Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 30, 2009 12:09 AM (Y1Anr)

Restaurant quality.
/golf clap

Posted by: Dick_Nixon at November 29, 2009 07:19 PM (6yeMs)

332 Mike Z - I like the cut of your jib. Good to see I'm not the only hate-filled xenophobic nativist on here. ^_^

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 07:20 PM (ADbI4)

333 We're just going to have to disagree that he was a successful governor.  I don't see any way his religion is a plus, at best it might be ignored in the name of "please relieve us from Obama."  European/Olympic connections are no plus either, we have a sufficiently foreign President now.  We've disagreed previously on whether his ivy league background is a boon or intolerable.  I guess I can accept that you find some value in this stuff, I just don't see it myself.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 07:21 PM (zyyJm)

334 Ok, early betting:  Palin/Barbour 2012 

Posted by: Jean at November 29, 2009 07:21 PM (xCBQ4)

335 Do they know for sure Clemmons is the guy who did this?

Posted by: stace at November 29, 2009 07:21 PM (g/wgk)

336 325, I will.  And if he comes across as fake (either then or now), I'll admit it (it may take a few days for it to sink in, but I will). 

I digress, but frankly, the sincerity issue is more important to me than the abortion issue.  I still don't understand what the consensus position is right-of-center on abortion.  I don't think all abortions are immoral; just, statistically, most; and I'm not comfortable giving the government the power to decide which ones are and aren't. 

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 07:22 PM (I2aaX)

337 I like the cut of your jib. Good to see I'm not the only hate-filled xenophobic nativist on here. ^_^

RJ-Mike Z in 2012!

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 07:22 PM (BBlLR)

338 "This commutation made him parole eligible" This is Hucks fault, pure and simple.  They guy was facing life basically, there was no way in hell he should have ever been considered for parole or clemency.  How in the fuck can this guy make a statement blaming everyone else and not mention the fact he pardoned the dude?  What a fucking asshole.

Posted by: Ken Royall at November 29, 2009 07:23 PM (9zzk+)

339 Mudafuckabee just became Pass-the-buckabee with that statement.

Posted by: Mike Z. at November 29, 2009 07:24 PM (BBlLR)

340 Palin/Clemmons

The baseball player, not the possible cop killer this thread is about, right?

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 07:25 PM (zyyJm)

341 Posted by: Ken Royall at November 30, 2009 12:23 AM (9zzk+)

The parole board never would have even taken it under consideration had Huckabee not requested they do so.  Huckabee is a miserable lying piece of shit.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 29, 2009 07:25 PM (Z0bVg)

342

Paris -

Watch the debate on the youtube tape (moderated by Tim Russet) and tell me if you honestly don't think he is a fake. It will take all of six minutes.

Posted by: bw222 at November 29, 2009 07:27 PM (jqZr+)

343 Huck's Pac's statement clearly points the finger at Bill Clinton, by claiming the commuting was done in 1990, by Bill Clinton.  But he's vague about the timeline beyond that, so I think Huck's lying.

good effort though.  He will indeed be protected somewhat if some think Bill Clinton is also implicated.

Posted by: The Nobel Peace Prize Committee (NPPC) at November 29, 2009 07:28 PM (t1sje)

344 343: I lol'd.

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 07:28 PM (ADbI4)

345

310 Huckleberry always struck me as an Elmer Gantry Fudd  type.

Nothing separates Huck from being a stump-toothed yokel than a couple of  tooth extractions.

Also, he's a bass player and (with a few exceptions) they are all Beta males.

Posted by: They don't call it "lead" guitar fer nuthin at November 29, 2009 07:30 PM (brof0)

346 If the government had just confiscated Clemmons from his mother's womb this whole thing could have been avoided.

Posted by: Jumpin Johnny Holdren at November 29, 2009 07:30 PM (DtTM9)

347 The murder of any individual is a profound tragedy, but the murder of a police officer is the worst of all murders in that it is an assault on every citizen and the laws we live within.

What crap.  The "worst of all murders" always seems to be whatever we're supposed to have sympathy for at any given time.  The terrorist attack at Fort Hood was worse because it included betrayal.  As a matter of inhumanity I consider abortion far worse.

All told this is a statement that refuses to accept responsibility.  PR=FAIL

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 07:30 PM (zyyJm)

348

ParisParamus:  I still don't understand what the consensus position is right-of-center on abortion. 

Moby!  Had me going for a little bit there, earlier in the thread.  Still, that was worth it for the laugh if nothing else.

Posted by: Dave R. at November 29, 2009 07:31 PM (Gyl12)

349 #348, I watched most of the debates live, and no, I don't think he is "fake"; charismatic?  No, but I'm not looking for an Obama.  Or a Huckabee, both of whom are much more charismatic, and less 'stiff." 

I hope he runs, and you should too.  Me going to sleep.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2009 07:32 PM (I2aaX)

350 Never mind.  I'm stupid.  Huck didn't say clinton did it.  He's a fuckhead anyway.

Posted by: The Nobel Peace Prize Committee (NPPC) at November 29, 2009 07:34 PM (t1sje)

351

317 Methos at 12:03

"I don't get this at all."

As I said, a number (5) of non-political women that I know (30's) all gave me this weird reaction about Palin. 5 is essentially a useless number, but it seems to point to a general feeling (in November 200 that still lingers. Palin's numbers are changing, and that's good, but she's having to do it all herself; or more specifically, I can’t think of any women (politicians, business women, celebrities) really going to bat for her.

"Who she is doesn't make the slightest bit of difference if she's not actually planning on running in the next election. If that's the case she's just another celebrity."

That's; true, assuming she doesn't run. But if she does run, then (I think) she needs to run to win. A complete personality / political makeover really isn't possible between now and January 2012, and if her advisors recommend one, I think it would be disastrous. In fact, anything more than small changes, essentially on minor subjects would be problematical.

You're right, Palin’s numbers are improving, but why: Obama’s failures / inability or her increasing popularity? With enough ACORN / SEIU / MSM covering and Pelosi / Reid-martyrdom, I'd rather not rely on Obama’s failures.

This is what I mean by maximum popularity; her values and beliefs, as they are now, are very popular with a significant segment of voters. To some degree, people just need to get a look at Sara Palin over and decide: "Yes, her values are my values".

My fear is that, in 30 months, Obama will ask for "4 more years" and claim that he can succeed by the end, and that either 50+% will believe him again, or that 32% will believe, 10% will be intimidated / corrected by ACORN/ SEIU and 7% will just not like Palin enough …

Posted by: Arbalest at November 29, 2009 07:35 PM (Ym9lj)

352 I'm stealing this from the HotAir comments:

"Horton hears a Huck."

Posted by: RJ at November 29, 2009 07:37 PM (ADbI4)

353 I'm not comfortable giving the government the power to decide which ones are and aren't.

If government won't defend its citizens from those that would harm them, what is it worth?  If it won't defend babies from abortionists. they will not be defended.  The shame here is that too many people figure that they've been born, so this savagery is not a threat to them.  But if you ask them about any other serial killer, oh sure, then they want government to intercede and decide which killings are permissable and which are not.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 07:39 PM (zyyJm)

354 This isn't about Palin, Romney, etc.  This is about 4 decent officers just doing their job and being executed on a quiet Sunday morning by some scumbag motherfucker who was granted clemency by that fucking douchebag Huckabee.  No matter how he tries to blame everyone but himself the blood of those officers is on HIS HANDS just as if he was pulling the trigger himself.

Posted by: MPFS Pissed Off Fish Stick at November 29, 2009 07:41 PM (PBGAP)

355 Looking on the bright side, Tammy Bruce should have an awesome rant tomorrow, and Huckabee can really let loose on Red Eye now.

Posted by: honest silver lined cloud at November 29, 2009 07:42 PM (DtTM9)

356

#360

And there seems to be no way to hold Huckabee legally responsible and accountable for the results of his actions.

I wonder if Huckabee, as a devout Christian minister, will give 1/8 of his gross income, for the rest of his life, to each of the families of the murdered officers.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 29, 2009 07:44 PM (Ym9lj)

357

My sympathies to the families of the officers who died in this horrible crime.

I don't think the Huckabee ever had any intention of running again.  He knew that he was just too much of a rino to ever be accepted without running the risk of splitting the gop and having a third, conservative candidate in the race.  Romney is a different story I think.  There is more of a chance of him running again for the nomination.  A small risk but nonetheless a risk.

Posted by: scr_north at November 29, 2009 07:48 PM (GE/dx)

358

AllahPundit cannot be happy. One by one his Palin-slayers are committing suicide:

- Newt: NY23

- Romney: RomneyCare

- Huck: Willie Horton II

Posted by: bw222 at November 29, 2009 07:48 PM (jqZr+)

359 Palin supporters here are worse in some ways then Obama worshippers. In spite of that I'll continue to support her and her message. To her over the top supporters and bashers of anything not in total praise of her I say keep fucking that moose.

Posted by: polynikes at November 29, 2009 07:49 PM (YF1RY)

360 My dream ticket would be Palin/Tancredo 2012

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at November 29, 2009 07:51 PM (H7Rlw)

361 326 Palin/Clemmons Posted by: libbyt

Does it hurt to be that fucked in the head, you troll?

Posted by: Iskandar at November 29, 2009 07:53 PM (u1pln)

362
A Seattle PI (online) reporter calls Huck at home and the person answers says Huck is taping his teevee show and is too busy to come to the phone...

Did I hear that right?

Posted by: sickinmass at November 29, 2009 07:56 PM (g7J39)

363 I watched the tale end of the Hucksters show on Fox tonight.  Absolutely cringe inducing.  He needs to go away and go away now.

Posted by: MAJHAM@GTMO at November 29, 2009 08:02 PM (qXVP6)

364

God works in mysterious ways.

Hopefully this is the final nail in Huckleberry’s coffin.

I just can’t stand that moron.

Regarding the police officers. The Huckster definitely has a role in their deaths and he should be held accountable in the public court.

Posted by: Leatherneck at November 29, 2009 08:08 PM (40yOy)

365 Bad enough he pardoned the guy, that's bad judgment. But to not even mention his own involvement and then try to pass off the responsibility on the people who had to deal with the consequences of his own actions is simple moral cowardice. If I wanted that combination in public office I could vote for Obama in 2012.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 29, 2009 08:09 PM (WFNEV)

366 If Huckabee is bad, how can anyone mention Jindal as viable? We let him into the primary and it's four more years of 0.

He or Crist would be the MSM's preferred candidates for the GOP--just like McCain.

Posted by: jimmuy at November 29, 2009 08:09 PM (g2L90)

367 This ranks right near the top of reasons to denounce compassionate conservatism. Fort Hood still has him beat, though, not by much.

Posted by: PJ at November 29, 2009 08:09 PM (Qpxxz)

368 Chuck Woolery's agent is looking for a new job as we speak. 

Posted by: sybilll at November 29, 2009 08:10 PM (l5xl/)

369 Local tele banner mentions Seattle P/D cordoned off area in Leschi neighborhood, possible link yo Lakewood shooter.

Posted by: NWviewer at November 29, 2009 08:27 PM (nU6V1)

370 We're going to need a warrior to straighten things out after the Obamaton. Petraeus-Palin sounds good to me (Don't kid yourself, Sarah would run for veep again on that ticket).

Posted by: Angus Dei at November 29, 2009 08:27 PM (WAI6U)

371 Palin supporters here are worse in some ways then Obama worshippers. In spite of that I'll continue to support her and her message. To her over the top supporters and bashers of anything not in total praise of her I say keep fucking that moose.

Yes, we love you, too.

Posted by: Methos at November 29, 2009 08:29 PM (zyyJm)

372

Man, I didn't think I could lose more respect for the guy, but just goes to show you. The parole board didn't decide, Huck did, now mind you the Gregoire (sic) administration did no favors either, why exactly would you release a child rapist.

Now it's three years out, and I'm not really that concerned about the Presidential race. But as she long as she helped steer the debate on 'death panels' and cap n trade, ( they wanted to have that served us by October)speak up in defense of our military, well you have to give her props for that, then again I admit to being biased

Also being of Latin background, I have a healthy respect for injunctions against ill will, not an exorcism, as was wrongly suggested last year, with what Rev. Muthee did

Posted by: takeshi kovacs at November 29, 2009 08:29 PM (1kwr2)

373 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/78113402.html

Posted by: NWviewer at November 29, 2009 08:31 PM (nU6V1)

374 While I never hated Huckabee I couldn't vote for him over Romney.  He just reminded me of Jimmy Carter.  Of course now we have the b.o. who will go down as one of the worse Presidents ever.

Posted by: Case at November 29, 2009 08:33 PM (0K+Kw)

375 381 Of course now we have the b.o. who will go down as one of the worse Presidents ever.

Like anyone could even know that.

Posted by: Kip Dynamite at November 29, 2009 08:39 PM (DtTM9)

376 There are many RINO's here.  It is just where the wind is blowing.  Then they take a knee to follow doing it themselves.

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at November 29, 2009 08:40 PM (pU4D7)

377 Guess this is why Huck said he wasn't going to run in 2012.  Perhaps he knew the name of the perp, and knew that this scumbag was a mistake of his?


Posted by: Intrepid at November 29, 2009 08:59 PM (92zkk)

378 Sleep well...you POS.   Tomorrow morning give each of the victims' families a phone call and preach the word about forgiveness and giving people a second chance...

Posted by: Sid Haig at November 29, 2009 09:07 PM (1+E1V)

379 KOMO 4 News just mentioned people in a 4 block (roughly) area were advised by police looking for the Lakewood shooter to lock their doors and stay away from any windows. One home is being watched for suspected shooter. Apparently this is not far from where Officer Brenton was gunned down one month ago.
That previous link I posted also offers a police scanner feed:
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/78113402.html

Posted by: NWviewer at November 29, 2009 09:10 PM (nU6V1)

380

Rev. Huckabee's lame excuse ignores the fact that he went against families and proscecutors in Arkansas to pardon this violent burden on society. He also ignored the law that said he must state his reasons.

I hope that all of the families can and will sue him personally.

 

Posted by: Rewrite! at November 29, 2009 09:14 PM (gSxol)

381

Oh well, the Rev. Governor must have got quite a rush from playing Pharisee to Clemmons' Barrabas.

Grr.

Posted by: Rewrite! at November 29, 2009 09:18 PM (gSxol)

382 Posted by: newser at November 29, 2009 09:19 PM (X2eW0)

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Posted by: Clever Moniker at November 29, 2009 09:47 PM (qs11W)

383 Can we stick a fork in him, now, please?

Posted by: notropis at November 29, 2009 09:48 PM (J8xii)

384 Huckabee flamed out too quickly in 2008 to be fully vetted.

Not true

Hucka-fuck's exploits in Arkansas were widely disseminated, including his unparalleled use of pardon power.

If it turns out that this "suspect" is the killer then it will not be the first of the Huck's pardoned people to go back to committing capital crimes.

I have always considered him to be a religious liberal. This is just one more piece on top of the shit pie we call Huckabee,

Oh so how did he stay in the race so long?  Again, it was the damn Republican primary rules and one issue "conservatives" who listened to their preachers and chose to ignore or disbelieve all the reports coming from people in Arkansas.

Posted by: Vic at November 29, 2009 11:34 PM (CDUiN)

385 Glad he's so quick to grant clemency to the President, too, in the spirit of bipartisanship. Fucking fathead.

Posted by: Bernardine Dohrn, who babysat POTUS' brats at November 29, 2009 11:50 PM (vn+LB)

386

Cops have now surrounded a house where Clemmons is believed to be holed up.

Posted by: Tinian at November 30, 2009 01:03 AM (7+pP9)

387 Sunday FOX, polls showed Huckabee a few points ahead of Palin, with Romney trailing behind 3rd. Huck wasn't willing to commit to another potus run 2012. "Been there, done that, gotta have the organization's backing to ever try it again."

Pigs fly from "headquarters".

Posted by: Ol Grandpa who remembers old stuff at November 30, 2009 01:42 AM (+CLh/)

388 I'm no Huck fan by any means, but this isn't just about him. There were multiple breakdowns of "the system" here with this piece of shit. And $150K bond set for the alleged rape of a child? You gotta be shittin' me.

Exactly.  That was the point of Huckabee's statement.  While he didn't take responsibility, he did point out that he isn't the only one who could have done things differently.  Larry Jegley (prosecuting attorney) tends to grandstand a little when he can take a shot at a political opponent.  He isn't very quick to point out that they had they guy and let him go.

Posted by: Steve L. at November 30, 2009 02:22 AM (Gkhxf)

389 Larry Jegley (prosecuting attorney) tends to grandstand a little when he can take a shot at a political opponent.  He isn't very quick to point out that they had they guy and let him go.

Be that as it may, but from what I can find he had been sentenced to 95 years in Arkansas and the Huck commuted his sentence. If he had not done that those 4 cops would still be alive today.

That is the bottom line, he had already been found guilty of major crimes, he had been sentenced and was in jail. All the tough barriers to getting a sick POS off the street had already been met.

Based on his "religious principles" he let this shit-stick back out on the streets.  And this is not the only one. From what I read back during the election he let out hundreds of hard core criminals during his term as Governor. So much so that the legislature considered revoking his pardon power.

Posted by: Vic at November 30, 2009 02:45 AM (CDUiN)

390 So much so that the legislature considered revoking his pardon power.

I am not a Huckabee supporter.  That move by the 90% Democrat legislature was designed to pander to the electorate and take a shot at Huckabee.  The closest they came was to make it mandatory to announce the reason for a pardon.

Huckabee used the power of the pardon way, way, way too many times.  It's funny though.  No one really seemed to care until one of the parolees re-offended.  Then, everybody was up-in-arms.

Posted by: Steve L. at November 30, 2009 03:30 AM (Gkhxf)

391 Looks like I was right again and it's still not talked about even here. I guess when the next black kills more white police officers it will just be ignored also.

Posted by: dvdivx at November 30, 2009 03:32 AM (DI++Q)

392

On the other hand Huckabee granted clemency to Clemmons after serving 11 years of a 60 year sentence for burglary and theft of property. Unless there were extenuating circumstances that seems an awfully harsh sentence.

Extenuating circumstance: Everybody involved except Huckleberry knew he was a murderous sociopathic swine?

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at November 30, 2009 03:35 AM (FF38Z)

393 Hickabee is finished. I knew he was bad when his son tortured and killed a dog at an Arkansas Boy Scout summer camp, and "some how" his kid was still able to make the Eagle Scout rank. I guess having daddy as Guvnor helped pressure the local BSA council. Hickabee is scum and should stick to his day job.

Posted by: Sgt. Rock at November 30, 2009 03:38 AM (2jp4I)

394 The buck stopped with Huckabee. Actions have consequences- he is unfit to have any significant role in the GOP due to a lack of basic judgement.

Posted by: jjshaka at November 30, 2009 03:40 AM (UfWfG)

395 Huckabe annoyed the shit out of me last election.  He was selfish when he didn't throw in the hat during the primaries.  Yeah huckster you got all 3% of the vote, you turd.  I hope this sinks you so you don't fuck up the next primary.

Posted by: MelodicMetal at November 30, 2009 03:41 AM (x4S2a)

396

I don't know who to recommend running for the GOP ticket in '12, but might I suggest Sheriff Joe and Palin at least get some type of posting within the cabinet?  Anybody who would listen to folks like Sheriff Joe and Palin would have my vote.

Maybe Lt. Col. Allen West too -- he seems fairly pragmatic and sensible.

Posted by: unknown jane at November 30, 2009 03:49 AM (5/yRG)

397 Frankly, I don't see how any conservative could support Huckabee. His record in Arkansas shows that he likes to tax and spend (liberal D), he is for illegal aliens (liberal), and he lets hard core criminals out of jail (liberal D). 

There is only one issue that he supports "conservatives" on and that is abortion. And on that issue I am not so sure that that is a conservative issue as much as it is a religious issue.

Currently out of the major people the media has been reporting on as "contenders" for the Republican Party in 2012, Palin is the ONLY one I would support.

Posted by: Vic at November 30, 2009 03:59 AM (CDUiN)

398
Fuckabee's statement page is only posting non-harsh, pro-Fuckabee messages.

Fuck him.

Posted by: thebronze at November 30, 2009 04:01 AM (86F8f)

399 Attorney General Holder and his fellow panthers recently had a hate crime  law passed. Only whites can be sued for triple damages for hate crimes done to blacks. However, according to Holder,  whites are unable to sue blacks for hate crimes. Apparently blacks are incapable of committing hate crimes. So, this black fellow shooting four whites, that is not hate.

Posted by: bowel movement at November 30, 2009 04:01 AM (Fd5yK)

400 "Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington State."  Huckabee said.  No you fucking tool.  The Arkansas justice system actually worked just fine in this case, but Huckabee's self-righteous decision to take it upon himself to "forgive" this piece of crap is what allowed this to happen.  The "system" screws up plenty, but this was one man's decision.

Posted by: yinzer at November 30, 2009 04:01 AM (B+WjJ)

401 Joe Arpaio?

Posted by: Flavius Julius at November 30, 2009 04:04 AM (kKP5O)

402 I'm also impressed he spent time in Europe, in France for his church.

That has GOT to be the dumbest of all reasons to support someone for office.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 30, 2009 04:16 AM (ZJ/un)

403 News Alert;

First noticed in my local paper and now on Fox. The Clemmons shit may be dead now.

Posted by: Vic at November 30, 2009 04:20 AM (CDUiN)

404

Ya know  Huck, forgivness via the Lord should come only from the Lord, you on the otherhand are responsible to a great degree for your lack of common sense, you know, one of the traits that Republicans need to possess to seperate them from Democrats.

Please don't taint the Republican presidential ticket in the future....Thanks.

Posted by: Drider at November 30, 2009 04:33 AM (HaJD9)

405 That has GOT to be the dumbest of all reasons to support someone for office.

Agreed. It is reasoning like this that gives us shit like McCain to vote for.

Posted by: doonuts at November 30, 2009 04:35 AM (RzUmN)

406 Nope. No Huckabee. The same folks who crammed McCain down our throats last year have already begun the attempt to do the same with Huckabee for 2012. I hope to hell we resist it.

With stuff like this on his record, we'd be fools to fall for the Huckaphoney line.

Posted by: Mad Monica at November 30, 2009 04:35 AM (tQRZb)

407

And you people had the audacity to call me a troll.

All you RINO parasites at AosHQ can take Muthafuckabee's statement and shove it up the far end of your digestive tracts.

 

Posted by: The Name at November 30, 2009 04:35 AM (cu0m1)

408 When Clemmons received the 60-year sentence, he was already serving 48 years on five felony convictions and facing up to 95 more years on charges of robbery, theft of property and possessing a handgun on school property. Records from Clemmons’ sentencing described him as 5-foot-7 and 108 pounds. The crimes were committed when he was 17.

60 years for robbery? At 17?

No wonder he received clemency.

Don't you fuckers read the facts before jumping to conclusions?

Posted by: stupid fucking knuckleh at November 30, 2009 05:32 AM (u6zet)

409 The hate rained down on Suckabee in this thread gives me a tingle up my leg.

Posted by: John Galt at November 30, 2009 05:46 AM (F/4zf)

410 Meet Mike Huckabee, the Norman Mailer of the GOP...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 30, 2009 05:47 AM (PNTym)

411 Oh, yeah? Well... well.... at least I ain't a Mormon!

Posted by: Mike Has-a-Been at November 30, 2009 05:47 AM (PNTym)

412 Why the hell does he think he can pass the buck?

Everyone down the line from that stupid prick's pardon would look at his record and see that the governor of his state where he committed his crimes thought he was reformed and repented.

100% of the lenient treatment after he was released can be traced to reliance upon Mr. Religious Conservative letting him go.

If you thought that con man couldn't get any more slimy, you were wrong.

Posted by: jimmuy at November 30, 2009 06:10 AM (EzcbY)

413 I cannot stand that cornpone dickhead Huckabee. I wish Gutfeld wouldnt ruin Red Eye again with his unfunny, Andy Griffith, "aw shucks" act. He's absolutely a phony piece of crap. Plus, he plays bass, so that automatically makes him a homo.

Posted by: The Drizzle at November 30, 2009 06:40 AM (PEr+c)

414

stricken with grief for the families of the officers killed,

glad that Huckabee won't be splitting the christian vote.

Posted by: shoey at November 30, 2009 06:44 AM (RxUMK)

415 Fuckabee was always the worst possible Presidential candidate and voice of the Republican party.  A raging leftist who fooled every dumb hick he met with his Baptist Minister schtick.  The only bigger clowns were his supporters.  The nutcase Ron Paul looks electable next to Pardonin' Mike.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at November 30, 2009 07:44 AM (QxGmu)

416

"Plus, he plays bass, so that automatically makes him a homo."

Say that to my face.

Posted by: Lemmy Kilmister at November 30, 2009 08:39 AM (1Iiqg)

417 While crazy [& dirty] Huck has quite a following here in flyover land, law and order still trumps folksy ad libs.  Buh bye.

Posted by: iowavette at November 30, 2009 08:45 AM (uy2Z/)

418 Ace, you might consider adding an Update, pointing out that "pardoned" is not the same as "gave clemency to".

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